>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>567804917
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Silver is B tier at best and if you disagree you're retarded.
>>567893167
Sex with Venator
>>567892850How so?You skim a walljump off the edge/corner of something and go further. It's not complex, it just takes a bit of practice just like literally everything else in the game.
>>567893378haha calm down uhhh bebop haha
YOSHI WHERES THE FUCKING PATCHYOSHI VICTOR NEEDS TO BE NERFED NOWYOOOOOOOSHI NERF HEALTH BOONS NOWWWYOSHIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!
You're a laning phase
I'm eternus btw
>play hero>get heroes that hard counter me on the enemy team 99% of gamesFUN
post your clips
>>567893414It really isn't that simple since you have to do it at an exact angle while also turning and also only every seventh tick in a server update while also only on a Tuesday, but not during a leap year.Having basic movement mechanics made needlessly complex for no reason at all does not add any depth to the game.
>>567892001>>567892120don't forget pic related
win 3 = rank up 1lose 1 (key player btw) = rank down
>>567894546Yeah the ranking system should just be removed since it really isn't any good. It's basically just people one-tricking OP characters until they get to Ascendant/Eternus
>>567894546>I paid for the whole heat pipe, I'm gonna use the whole heat pipe
>>567893895have an ancient funny ragdoll clip
>when i'm in a not releasing an update competition and my opponent is yoshi
>Does nothing but use the same goofy ass combo over and over>Combo that is easily avoided and easy to get out of if you manage stamina/spacing well>Combo that only really comes online halfway into the game>Completely mindraped the "pro" community into thinking Doorman is unfair and broken, making him a top ban>All because of a unique playstyle that isn't just holding M1 or mashing spirit abilitiesInsane how much mental anguish a D tier hero has caused these so called "pro players" lmfao
>>567894795upvoted
>>567894876competitive communities have a well known habit of shitting their pants when some autist gets really good at a low tier character and comes to beat their ass when they cannot adapt
radiant regen healing tempo drifteryour shitlow brain will never understand it, but this is peak
>>567894876He is extremely broken, in the literal sense. You can trap people in walls, under the map, and so on.He's also just not fun to play against, like more than half of the cast at this point, and literally all of the meta characters.
>>567894876Cool but how do you counter his doors? And I mean the fact that his entire team can use them to move from one end of the map to the other.
game is so ass right now its making me productive
Gay sex with Abrams
>>567894774>16 item slotssovl
>>567895194They really should let you break them via heavy melees like Graves's tombstone.
>>567895246That seems to be Holliday on her knees, and Holliday's a femoid. That's as far from "gay sex" as one can get. What were they THINKING?
I'm alchemist btw
>>567894876>D tier heroHe's pretty good for a competitive setting. He has high damage high utility and his skills benfit from team coordination
i love victor
>>567895194They should make it so slowing hex renders the enemy unable to enter doors. Would make Billy a good counter to his bullshit as well.Want to try door cheese? Get chain gang'd idiot.
>>567895475Good bait
>>567894102no dude you don't get it, it's completely fair for Pocket to have S-tier mobility, tankiness (in the sense that you aren't allowed to hit him at all), damage, and the only guaranteed way to completely shut off healing.
>>567895296sometimes I wish my teammates were forced to buy greens for once but they'd need to add way more items to make up for it or add flex items that go into any slot and those are just going to enable degenerate min max builds
continuing on from last thread this was the next game the literal next game after that shit stomp like wtf is genuinely going on with this game?
Look at this fuck boy. Hidden King my ass, bow down to the Arch Mommy.
>>567895908they fucked the mm algorithm with the changes. it's either stomp or get stomped every game.
>>567895908you played pocket instead of holliday
>>567895475But it's Infernus being held on a leash
Where did I go wrong? I lost a friendSomewhere along in the bitternessAnd I would have stayed up with you all nightHad I known how to save a life
>>567895908We fixed matchmaking btw :)I have not played the game in like two weeks because the meta sucks ass, the matchmaking sucks ass, and there really isn't much fun to be had in back to back stomps either stomping or being stomped.Movement is too strong, aoe slop is too good, and objectives are all so pathetically weak.
>>567896080That's racist
Yoshi will release the patchBut only if you post the best deadlock images you have
>>567895194Yoshi should add an active item you can place down to make terrain impassible.
This is the worst matchmaking has been since 2024 i've never seen it so shit
>>567896221
>>567896221the patch buffs dynamo and nerfs viscous
>>567893378Calm down Mina!
>HES ON ME HES ON MEjust talk in the 3rd person retards, no one knows who "me" islike >help our seven>their victor is on our seven>their victor is on our walker>their victor is on our shrines>their victor is on our patron
explain this
>>567895807>>567894102Don't forget, one of the best guns with the highest dps in the game.
>>567895916say that again
>>567896571shouldnt have to say anything, look at the map
>>567896323peak redditmo
>>567896996>Just read my mind, retardHow about you use your words and articulate what you want me to do
>>567896787um but Silver is S tier for some reason who cares if she gets hard countered by pocket pocket is still only B tier
>>567897119Can't be, there's no Ivy or Silver or Rem in it
>>567896571Everyone thinks they're so important people will understand who is "me" so they don't say who they're playing. It doesn't help also everyone sounds like nasally depressed so I can't put a voice to the character
>>567895908You're on a loss streak and eventually the game throws you into a team with other players on a loss streak so you steamroll the enemy for free.
>>567897205>>567896787>wherever I am I must also downplayShalom, Rabbi Silverberg.
>>567897230damn am I reddit for playing wolf bitch
>>567897179>read my mindim not asking you to do that im asking you to learn how to reap a map nigger
>>567896714went to check his tracklock and he pretty much builds 80% green on every m1gger and it seems to be working well enough
>>567897410>jew trying to call White nationalism jewishClassic, kill yourself kike
mina is ridiculous what the heck
>be me>playing deadlock>playing seven>I'm extremely racist>racist because I play seven>playing seven because I'm racist>laning against rem and wraith>unbelievable, two blacks in my lane>rem gets ult>naptimeiguess>fall asleep>last thing I see are the eyes of that little black child>unbelievable, not I, seven, losing to this>wake up in a void>nothing around me>complete darkness in every direction>realize that it's not just darkness>the darkness is moving>hear a voice with no point of origin>"they do lots of things">mauled by little helpers>wake up in my bed in a cold sweat>see deadlock still open on my pc>just in the lobby with rem taking place of abrams bot>what the fuck>close deadlock>wonder what the fuck all that was about>outside unbeknownst to me rem leaves>little helper leaves the house with my wallet
>>567897410>downplay?
>dynamo or mina on the enemy team>insta losspatch any day now....
is Mo&Krill 4chan? or reddit?
>>567895153It's peak seeker for sure
I just got around to watching lomein's tier list and I swear that shit is just trolling for views. Why is every """pro""" player in this game such a fag?
>no guys listen this game has really movement tech>how does it work?>if you do frame perfect timing on a poorly defined hitbox you get a significant boost>no there's no measurable feedback or well defined point>no it's not consistent across all geometry>here watch these seven videos by an autistic swede this'll maybe give you marginally better intuition>no you won't be able to do it consistently unless you practice it for hours at a time>no you don't understand this is great for the health of the gameairstrafing is also bullshit
>>567899276You have to be mentally ill and not value your time to reach eternus 6
>>567896221melee paige
Game's really boring every game is a stomp with the same heroes with the same tactics and same items I can't remember the last time I was this bored with the game
>>567899279movement should be removed, its nothing but bug exploits, server tick exploits, and outright cheats
>>567899047wha
I LOVE MY WIFE BUT I WOULD NEVER EVER PLAY HER BECAUSE SHES A THROW PICK
>>567896787He should be a good all rounder, as it is he's just bullshit hero #9 with a good ult to boot>>567897205Silver IS S tier, you're right>hard countered by pocketNo? Pocket hard counters kelvin and victor
>>567899158Mo is 4chan, Krill is reddit
>>567899697>downplaying pocketKill yourself tranny
Why do people think there's a patch upcoming?It's valve, I don't expect anything for at least a year.
>Spellbreaker + Spirit Resilience>Mina's Ult still insta kills me
>Hidden kingReddit>Archmother4chanSimple as
>>567899816NIGGER I SAID HE'S BULLSHIT HERO #9 WHAT PART OF THAT IS DOWNPLAYING????? KILL YOURSELF
>>567899158Mohammed is the 4channer fat chud, Dynamo is the Redditor fat chud
>>567899923because yoshi told us? retard
>>567899973He's bullshit hero #1
>>567899995>valve told usI'm still waiting for the TF2 heavy update and half life 2 episode 3
This game needs more hetslop
>>567899923yoshi LITERALLY said, and i QUOTE>Yeah, likely this week but not sure yetwhich must mean THIS WEEK 100% CONFIRMED
>>567899937>the humble 1% current hp on each bat>>567900037It's not a ranking, I'm just saying there are basically 8 other faggots in this game with kits that do lots of things except for rem, his kit doesn't do lots of things because the devs are discriminating against him cause he's black
>Rem+Mo vs Apollo+Warden>Wow that lane is gonna be a rape fest>Rem gets 7 kills before getting ult
Here's how you fix 99% of movement bullshit>completely redefine air momentum mechanics>no bizarre bullshit with having to move perpendicular to your momentum, just give every character direct air control to a limited extent>airjumping and airdashing now completely redirect your motion vector so you can change direction mid-air without any bullshit>remove all the bizarre edge boosting corner boosting edge case bullshit>increase the leniency of wall jump detection slightly>dashing against a wall now results in you wall-running which extends the duration of the boost slightly and also looks cool>adjust stamina cooldowns and dash velocity as necessary to maintain stable balance
>>567899493What, you don't like seeing Victor Mina Lash in every single game???
>thinking valve is going to drop a patch on fucking memorial day weekendNo dev there is saying "yeah man I'll be on call for if the patch is broken" they're all attending the Valve Corporation Cookout with their families
>>567900275Someone got parried, no other explanation
>>567900170https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
>>567896221ez
It’s impossible to play almost any game with this glitched character, build, or whatever it is... No matter how well this Viktor sticks to his lane—he just charges at the towers and dies, then comes back and dies again, and so on in an endless cycle. It doesn’t matter how many times he’s died since the start of the game—he just goes off on his own and destroys towers, paying you absolutely no attention. And it doesn’t matter what team you put together to counter him. Until they change something, I just haven’t gone back to the game—it’s unplayable.
>>567900353>just reprogram the whole game broThat's not happening until August at minimum, and probably never>>567900464Who between Warden and Apollo would ever throw a melee out though?
>>567900353No, all you need to do is add gravity that slowly pulls people down no matter what. You shouldnt be able to fly in the air for 40 seconds at a time. Max air juggle should be like 10 seconds
>>567894876>Combo that is easily avoided and easy to get out of if you manage stamina/spacing wellyou'd have a point of vortex web didn't exist and made this shit automatic so the only actual counter is remover/unstoppablewith that item doorman is just better mo who has a shorter cooldown, does more damage and gets to kidnap you away from your whole team (or just kidnap your whole team)
why do you even gain and lose rank points in duo queue?
>>567900584>Who between Warden and Apollo would ever throw a melee out though?In my pooplow games literally everybody tries to heavy melee
>>567899664That art reminds me of that plant vs zombies plant
>>567900950It's the same artist
>>567901221Really? That would explain it then lol
>>567896787>30% more damage per shell>500%x the reload timewhats the problem?
>mmnyes an ult that can nearly insta kill anything with flight homing and silence should be under a minute cooldown at max with transcendent cooldownwhat fucking drugs do they take at Valve HQ seriously?
>>567901675Silver reloads per-shell, Pocket reloads the whole mag.
>>567901221i also recognize that artist from uh other stuff
IT'S UPhttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/670617878982034052
>>567902553>Midboss now starts spawned at the beginning of the gameis this good or bad?
GRAVESBROS WE WON
>>567902748Does it matter? It's not like this game has a hero like Ursa
count how many days it takes until graves gets nerfed again lmao
REMOVE GREY TALON NIGGER FROM THIS GAME
>Venator: Health increased from 790+43/boon to 830+48/boon>Venator: Hex-Lined Snap Trap T3 increased from +25% Damage Against Revealed Targets to +30%>Venator: Hex-Lined Snap Trap T3 now also grants +1 ChargeVenatorGAWDS...
>>567902748It's irrelevant because nobody kills midboss when it spawns.
>silver nerfedOH NONONONO SILVERSISSIES... WE'RE... WEAK...
>Fleetfoot now adds weapon damageMeleebros....
>new patch>silver nerfed yet againYou ok Yoshi?
>Urn changes >>567803523Suck my cock faggot, I knew this shit was stupid
MELEE ABRAMS IS BACKI REPEAT, MELEE ABRAMS IS BACK
>>567901675increases by .5 per shellwhat actually feels miserable is her having to rack her gun shut before being able to start her reload animation (racking it open again)
SILVER NERFEDHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Victor: Bullet damage reduced from 13+0.3135 to 12+0.26- Victor: Jumpstart T3 spirit scaling increased from +0.6 to +0.9- Victor: Aura of Suffering now does 50% damage to objectiveshehe im fine with this
We are so back
>>567902553>nerfed gun graves>gigabuffed summoner gravesYoshi my life is yours.
>Billy is more tankier but has less gun damageI'll take it I guessSpirit Snatch looking better too
>>567902748as if hAIDs doesn't fuck your lobby sidways hard enough when she's fed 8 kills in lane
>Base HP reduced by 10 for all heroes>HP per boon reduced by 3Low TTK bros... we're home
>Golden Goose Egg: Permanent buff from every 100 souls to every 80Ka-CHING!
>>567902748May as well. Nobody fights it until like 15 mins at the very earliest, and it's one less thing to keep track of.
Doorman playerss seething
- To pickup the Urn, rather than standing in place to channel, you now light or heavy melee the Urn to pick it up.- The Urn is now always dropped off on top of the bridge on the middle of the map.- Once dropped off, the Urn will go into a "Depositing" phase for a set amount of time, depending on which team the urn favors (3s/5s/10s for Favored/Neutral/Unfavored).- While in the Depositing phase, the enemy team can Heavy Melee the urn to have their team claim it and cause it to switch sides. This adds +1.25s to that team's timer.- If the urn is Favored or Unfavored (in a comeback state), then the Favored team will get +50% Bullet and Spirit Resist in a 60m radius around the urn while it is being carried, dropped or deposited.
I don't understand.Did we get buffed or nerfed Gravesbros?
>Abrams T2 3 is now 18% melee lifestealYou can't do this to him meleeing is already fucking dogshit
>>567903492massive buffs watch reddit complain and she gets nerfed again lel
>those holliday changesLMAOOOOOOOOOOOO fuck this dev team. Everyone is also going to go debuff reducer and your barrels will barely knock up. Holy fucking shit just make her a braindead m1 char and be done with it
Oh boy, can't wait for people to shit on this patch for months
>>567903078Mostly just Bola nerfs, I'll take it if it means pros stop bitching because they can't instant escape out of everything.
>Total Damage Reduction debuffs now stack diminishingly rather than additively (Inhibitor, Fire Scarabs, etc)Am I crazy is this gonna totally ruin geist's malice amp?
>Sharpshooter: Now upgrades from High-Velocity Rounds (in addition to Long Range). Grants +60% Bullet Velocity.Is this the first item that requires multiple components?Genuinely not a huge fan
THE GAME IS SAVED SAY THANKS
>>567903492decent buff. we'll have to see how much better the changes to skull behavior makes her. i doubt it'll make her a top tier again though.
>play against a russian doorman doing the bug abuse to put you under the map>get put under the map, do unstick command>get "unstuck" into the rem tunnels>unstick now does nothing>killme in the console doesnt work>teammates in mic the entire time>DUDE JUST HIT UNSTUCK! ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED? HOW DO YOU NOT KNOW ABOUT THAT COMMAND? JUST CLICK UNSTUCK BRO. OH IT DOESNT WORK? JUST TYPE KILLME IN THE CONSOLE. THAT DOESNT WORK EITHER? YOU MUST BE DOING IT WRONG BRO! YOU'RE A RETARD BRO!>one of them gets put under the map later>"watch this bro, watch and learn">does unstuck>gets put in the vents with me>does it again>nothing happens>he realizes that i am in fact stuckfucking retard
>- Mina: Love Bites no longer applies the flat on hit damage to abilities (was doing 20% of its value on Nox Nostra)IT WAS WHAT?????
>>567903635she also doesn't specialize in urn runs anymore since you aren't silenced and you only need to carry it to midwhy did they make a hard cool char like her if they're too braindead to balance her
>>567903492i thgink gun got nerfed but summoner got heavily buffed since they fixed a good amount of the bugs the skulls had
>McGinnis, the highest winrate hero in eternus gets 3 buffs and no nerfslmao lol
>>567903078Reduced health on everyone is a buff to Silver
How do I counter Graves again?
enjoy the patch until the metaslaves find the new broken hero to abuse
>>567904104press mmb on her portrait before you queue up
>- If the urn is Favored or Unfavored (in a comeback state), then the Favored team will get +50% Bullet and Spirit Resist in a 60m radius around the urn while it is being carried, dropped or deposited.huh sounds crazy good
>>567893167>silver nerfed>venator buffedhe won.
alright im getting 1 tapped by yamato power slash now
>Doorman: Doorways close sub ability now starts on cooldown for 8sFreak the fuck out and play another hero right now. It's fucking over, Doormanbros.
>victor still has a 100s cd ult
- Yamato: Power Slash post cast time reduced from 0.4s to 0.2s- Yamato: Power Slash spirit scaling increased from 1.86s to 2.1- Yamato: Flying Slash range increased from 25m to 30m- Yamato: Flying Slash T2 no longer grants +20m Cast Range- Yamato: Flying Slash T3 now also grants +15m Cast Range- Yamato: Flying Slash T3 increased from +1 Charge to +2- Yamato: Fixed Crimson Slash not being able to hit anything if the player is aimed too high or low- Yamato: Shadow Transformation T1 increased from +5 Weapon Damage to +7YamatoGODS...!
>>567904308you can also silence him to stop him from putting them down now lol
>>567900512i want you to write an apology form
Inhouse patchWH3FSWH3FSWH3FS
>>567904390ZAMN
>>567904392>yoshi takes away bell doorman>now nerfs kidnap doormanWhat is the expectation for this hero? Most interesting kit, and so the most hated because of it.
- Crushing Fists: Cooldown reduced from 7s to 5s- Crushing Fists: Melee damage increased from 20% to 22%Finally, we meleeGAWDS have received some long deserved BUFFS
theres no fucking way they triple buffed celeste
>>567904609
>now im not getting holliday because of a slight increase to bullet damageno she's not meta metaslaves move on please and thanks
>>567904390>Billy gets a token hp buff while getting LESS GUN damage>Yamato gets overall buffs and QOLJeez
>Apollo guttedbros...
>>567904685>2 nerfs>2 buffs>"triple buffed"
>buffing GT's 2wow just what I wanted, making chief casino even more agile and harder to catch
>>567904669Spirit Snatch got a buff too, way more viable now.Still think the stun needs to be 1 second for crushing but I'll take it.
>>567904669>trap buffedis phantom strike venator finally anything but a meme
Silver players you okay? Rem chads won btw
>Silver nerfs
>Midboss starts spawneddo the mid boxes also spawn at normal time now?
>>567904989DESERVED. FUCK TRANNIES!
Doorbros....that doorway nerf has me anxious
>more bebop nerfsImagine forcing this D tier character to be a gun character after nerfing his kit and then nerfing his gun right after.
FINALLY FUCKING FIXED MCGINNIS DIVINE KEVLAR. Such an easy god damn thing to do for MONTHS.
Victor got gutted again so I'm back to Graves
>>567904945Bola is like, the least important part of her kit honestlyWow a 2 second slowing hexNot like its bad but the time to kill isn't low enough to make it bullshit.
>>567903459I think the new Urn is way more fair. Now you just have to push blue to contest, instead of basically all your lanes.
>Warden confirmed having a canonical 8.5 inch cockThat's not fair.
>>567902748what about mid boxes?
There's new music when you pick up the urn.
>silver nerfednow do it again
>>567904047*two buffs and a bug fix
Silver actually got buffed.
GRITCHADS WW@??????HOW IS THIS NOT AN INSTA BUY EVERY GAME?
>Mina: Innate -8% Debuff Resisty doe?
new patch, who dis?
- Drifter: Rend T3 no longer increases scaling by 0.4- Drifter: Rend T3 now also deals Heavy Melee Damage (0.55 scale)Retard questionDo you still have to be super close for it to deal melee damage or does it work normally now on t3
>>567905238He's too sheltered and autistic to actually make use of it, his parents homeschooled him after all
>>567905238He is a virgin
>every change i have posted on the forums are included>still no views on my posts
>urn respawn noise every 60 seconds in explore modeFUCK OFF
>No Mirage nerfsLolLmaoFor de djinn
>>567894876His combo is entirely irrelevent to how he's played and why he's good in comp
>>567905379I don't see why that would have changed.But in other news, is melee drifter compy now?
>"Listen Joe, they were to have ME as the update!">Yeah but, you know they had to stop updating the game. A lot of things looked bad about that game. You are reacting instead of thinking ahead and predicting. Gameplay became very unsure. They didn't sound like proper changes to the game. You could see the way Icefrog develops his games is very clean, very calm, he's a bad motherfucker. I was worried about you, can tell you that.">"Yeah-">"I worry about you, your gameplay, not to changing or focusing on community, I think you have one .">"...I disagree.">"You disagree? You're looking at how you can't do this forever, and that's a dangerous place to be as an old multiplayer video game. You're a good game, problem with good games as a service is you think about your game getting updates, getting patches, getting hats, how many people play, how many have coming, when does the age start showing up in the gameplay itself? >"...">"The reality of your game? I don't see you beating Deadlock. I don't see developers going to fiddle with the heavy update, I don't see you getting bug fixes, I don't see you getting hats...">"...">"You came into video games late in life, you first started as a modded game, and you can do a lot of things because of that, but there's a reality of getting an update.. If I had to pair you with Marvel Rivals in terms of gameplay, how do you think you would do?">"Rivals? I think you'd be surprised.">"You think? I think you'd be surprised. I think he'd fuck you up.">"...">"There's a bridge between you... and the best games in the world, that I think you can't cross.">"Joe you know you're my boy but I don't necessarily agree with everything you're sayin'...">"You lost the games, and that new developer at Valve looked stiff as hell and you couldn't close the deal on him.">"...">"I'm sayin it with love, 100%"
>both animal themed girlfailures throw bolas>both girlbosses are black women with an attittudewow........so this is the white man's creativity i've heard about..........s...sugoi!!!!
>>567899279>spoileri think it's just not holding W that a lot of people find unintuitive, the act itself is really fun and opens a lot of control. i think if there was an alternate control scheme that let you hold W and turn your camera side to side for the same effects as proper air strafing controls for accessibility it'd be a lot less contentious (with an option to use "legacy" air controls as well of course)
>half the distance to drop the urn>can't steal half the souls
>>567905541If you have to be 3ms in contact for it to deal melee, then no.Its a terrible change, hence why I'm hoping its semi reverted with the t3
>>567904856even so, buffing celeste in the first place is tone deaf as fuck
>Mina has -8% rape resistance>you can rape her for longerBROS..........
>>567905268Still spawn at 10 min.
yamatoCHADs finna go crazy after this patch
>urn in the middleWho remembers when they tried reintroducing this way back? And it stunk
I DINT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT ANOTHER FUCKINGKEY JINGLINGCATTLE PRODDINGMEME PAFCHWHERE THE FUCK IS THE ACTUAL MAJOR UPDATE AAAAHHHHHHH
>>567905709but now theres no mid boss announcement for it so thats another timer you have to memorize thats great!
koth urn
>>567905371They have zero clue how to actually nerf her that isn't deleting her free minute 1 nuke damage
>>567903492Summoner Graves is so fucking back dude, i'm going to spam echo shard wall creating four ghouls until reddit complains and it gets removed again. That being said, i don't know the leveling order you should go for now. Two points in ult is extremely valuable. Probably max Deadheads first since that's your main source of damage. The passive is kind of irrelevent until T3, when it becomes extremely good for the summoner build, and you also want max walls now. So maybe two points into ult -> max deadheads -> max passive or wall depending on enemy team comp?
>Literally nothing to Victor
>lash got compensated for his gun being hit hard with a fraction of a fraction spirit increase on stompwoah, its fucking nothing
>- Stamina Regeneration is reduced by 25% for 5s after using a Wall Jump. This does not trigger when out of combat or when mantling soon after.This is huge, no more whacky chasing a low HP enemy through a bunch of alleys because of infinite wall jumps, while also keeping it great to move around the map out of combat
>>567905838Sorry, Valve is now going to go on a Memorial Day vacation, and when that's finished they'll go on a July 4th vacation, and when that's finished they'll go on a Labor Day vacation :)
Does anyone know how much is the health nerf now?
you...you guys just don't get it the urn is a fun and healthy mechanic bro even if 80% of the game is played around it so it becomes marvel rivals teamfight slop instead of a moba! it's totally not because we paid famous VC shlomo goldenstein half a million dollars to record those epic reddit le funni urn dialogue bros!!!
>>567905509No no, the damage reduction was the nerf, he's now totally unplayable! It's just so terrible for Mirage players! How could they do this to him!
just make urn work like this pos
>>567902553yeah niggers I'm not fall->>>IT'S REAL IT'S REAL IT'S REAL IT'S REALAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IM CUMMMING
>>567903781LMAO I really like this anectdote. Mind If I save it?
>>567904989Downplay sisters... we didn't gaslight hard enough... we MUST replicate the successful downplay we achieved after her first nerf or we will be EXPOSED...
>- Guardians scaling resistance from +75%->-50% over 12 minutes to +50%->-50% (takes more damage early)>- Breakables spawn time increased from 2 minutes to 3 minutesThese might be my favorite changes in the patch just because they'll help reduce the extremely homosexual box meta. Now people will need to wait one more minute before fucking off to do boxes, and since Guardians take more damage early you can actually pressure their tower if they take too long doing it
>>567903492It's a buff but mostly because they simply fixed the awful AI for her skulls
>If the urn is Favored or Unfavored (in a comeback state), then the Favored team will get +50% Bullet and Spirit Resist in a 60m radius around the urn while it is being carried, dropped or deposited.What the fuck. That's more res than in Yamato's ult
this patch looks like dogshit, im not gonna lie
>>567905371They want her more vulnerable to CC and debuffs clearly.
IT'S UP
What does the 8cd cooldown on door close mean?Does it only start after you place both doors?
>Rem got buffed to high hellI FUCKING WONTIME FOR A NAP TO CELEBRATE
>>567906234i mean no one takes THAT long to do boxes right
>>567906254Yeah i'm not entirely sure about this. Even if you're 10k behind, if you manage to start depositing the urn its going to be basically impossible to lose the teamfight around it, and since its on top of midboss your team can immediately just take it after winning the fight. I can see a lot of games being thrown by trying to contest the comback urn now, for better or worse
>venator trap buffslol that will surly have him catch up with the other carrys damage wise. nice one yoshit
Urn status?
>>567906491The health buff is a bigger deal desu
Graves needed to have her skulls fixed absolutely but they did NOT need to bring back double ghoul root.
>Midboss now starts spawned at the beginning of the gameRELEASE ME
>yoshi is back to fucking joke updates and placing urn in the middle of the mapITS LIKE 2024 AND 2025 NEVER LEFT BROS
>new voicelines for urnneat
>>567905238>8.5 inch cock>exists just to stop mystic apocalypse and unlucky enough to actually be the person who will be thrown away to stop it
>>567906614>midboss roars>get raped
>doorman kidnapping got nerfedYES GET OFF MY CHARACTER TOURISTSNOW I CAN PLAY MY HUSBAND AGAIN
>>567906593hes still losing a huge chunk of it to glass canon because hes really the only character in the game that needs to build it to deal damage
>>567906450That's kind of beside the point, in Phantom+ lobbies you had people just legitimately abandon lane at two minutes and just go do boxes all around the map. They would come back with as much gold as you, and their lane partner is now ahead from eating waves alone. And if their lane partner isn't stupid they'd just duck under tower and it was too early in the game to dive or actually deal damage to the tower, so it was very hard to counterplay in any way other than also fucking off and doing boxes. So it becomes this gay box breaking simulator where people don't really interact in lane
>>567906707JOEKEK IN SHAMBLES
>Knockup durations are now affected by debuff reductionYEEEEEEEEEEEEEES YOSHI I KNEEL>Sliding no longer resets sprint speedsprint meta back (potentially)>Midboss now starts spawned at the beginning of the gamelolwut>those urn changes???????????? idgi i'll have to test it>new itemseems actually really strong for lane>Magic Carpet: Now innately grants -15% Gravity and Air Control by +25%>- Arctic Blast: Slowed targets now have their stamina regen frozen for the 4s slow durationoml>Abrams: Infernal Resilience T2 changed from "200 Max Health" to "+18% Melee Lifesteal" (40% effective vs non-heroes)LET'S SEE WHAT THIS DICK CAN DO>sharpshooter now can build off of 2 items...YE->...but rain of arrows gutted if you want to play gun out of nowherewelp there goes my meme build, it's better for the spirit builds though since now at base it's a giga cancer escapeoverall seems
Why did they nerf Viscous when he's already so dogshit?
Whats the fucking point of doors if you cant close them instantly?
>urn changesmy god they're adding cs2 to deadlock
just had a game and the new king of the hill urn is a good change imo. the fights are hectic and everyone is spamming melees.
BRING BACK CAPTURE THE FLAG URNFUCK KING OF THE HILL
>>567903492>- Paige: Rallying Charge now has half cooldown if it hits no allies or enemiesWhy
BUY BUY BUY
>Urn is now King of the HillJesus, Vortex Web sounds like a very good active to have to contest now.
yep holliday still sucks
The Rem changes are nice. I don't know if they're enough to make him good enough but they're niceI'd still like them to at least experiment with letting him pillow people during naptime or letting his hero attached chuds attack people like a bootleg tormenteitherway I'm shuffling my board tonight
>urn turned into midlane BROOL parry bait>Abrams turned into parry bait>melee items turned into parry bait>most cancerous items get more buffs>weaker items get like +20 health idfk>Paradox gets more useless 'buffs', i can't wait until she has 12 wall charges in exchange for zero damage come the December patch>Yamato gets barely any spirit damage buffs in exchange for gutting her ability as a chaser until T3, and more Gunlock shit on ult>nerfs to heroes who didn't deserve it>buffs to heroes who didn't deserve it>Dynareddit is still their favorite pet>btw parry fx have been bugged this entire time LMAO but we fixed it, probably, i mean maybe xddddtruly riveting
>>567893167>doors can't be closed for 8s after they're opened....erm just cause!Fuck icefraud, that dumbshit nigger has no idea what hes doing, jesus fuck.
>get grabbed by billy into arctic blast>welcome to the killzone nigga
>>567906790it's so people actually try to use the doors in clever ways instead of the constant kidnap autism strats, this change will end up being a buff to Doorman's playerbase in the long run
>>567906614God I miss pre-horn roshing with Ursa and frens
>Grasping Hands now spawns a ghoul in the base ability (T3 still increases it by 1)wait so she's back to the 2 ghoul cancer meta like in april?
BILLY BROS WE ARE SO FUCKING BACKTHIS IS. /OUR/. PATCH
>mina barely nerfed>dynamo barely nerfed>victor barely nerfedKILL YOSHI KILL YOSHI KILL YOSHI KILL KILL KILL BURN MAIN RAPE RAPE KILLRPAJEJFKODODKCOEOEOFJQBAGXIZBSPQPUW919Q9 8 IS
- If the urn is Favored or Unfavored (in a comeback state), then the Favored team will get +50% Bullet and Spirit Resist in a 60m radius around the urn while it is being carried, dropped or deposited.WHAT THE FUCK THIS IS THAT ANON'S SUGGESTION A COUPLE OF THREADS AGO
>places doors on the top of blue walker walls so people cant get back out through themgreat nerf yoshi
>>567906198go ahead, I just hate being in those situations where some faggot is so up his own ass he actually thinks you're too stupid to press escape and click unstick heroThis was Victor's "watch and learn" moment btw
>>567907487I told ya, they lurk herePost your most dogshit suggestions and make it happen
well they didnt change matchmaking very first match is a smurfing vindcicta
>I originally suggested in the forum to just add like a 2 or 3 second cd buffer for doorman before he gets to closethe doors again>they make it 8AIIIEEEE IM SORRY DOORBROS
just let Dynamo be bad for one fucking patch, please I'm begging you
>>567907636Don't be sorry his bells are a 4 second disarm with chargesHe's fucking OP now lol
>>567903209>>567902553>gigabuffedI'm not so sure, only thing we got is 1 extra zombie on 2 back, skulls still die to 1 melee, if they still target like shit I'm gonna go to yoshi's house and skin him alive
Retard who were complaining about Graves' skulls before are about to have a bad time cause they actually lock on to their targets now
Sorry Dynamo is the meme highlight heroThey will never nerf him
>>567907636it's actually over this time i'm afraid i miss the old days when people hadn't realised how busted doors were yet
>- Mo & Krill: Getting hit with a melee no longer knocks you up when you are burrowedwait you could punch him out of burrow? what
>>567907829The gun damage nerf is so fucking bad, turning into a spirit sissy now
Damn, they murdered Kevin.
>>567904669billy bros finna eat
>>567904390>yamato keeps getting more and more buffs>i get to play her less and lessI want tourist tierwhores OFF. MY. MAIN!
>abrams has built in melee lifestealWHY????EVERYONE FUCKING PARRIES ME ANYWAY
>make bells even more shit but extremely good against 1 character (vindicta)Doorbros, another wave of hate is coming our way...
>>567908180except he's litearlly impossible to parry if you have extended duration on charge
remchads we won
>>567907879They mean displacementBurrowing M+K can still be displaced(which looks really silly)
>no ones mentioned the walljump nerfschmovement troons hoping we'll not notice so they can trick yoshi into undoing this one
Damn Riposte got nerfed hard good
>starts off as capture the flag>ends in king of the hillURNTARDS THOUGHTS?
>Holliday gets nothing yet againThey're definitely reworking her
>>567908180Before you had objectively zero reason to build meleeI remember suggesting in these threads that they should rework his passive to make him WANT to actively melee somehow, glad yoshi read my posts in these threads.
>sub 30% nightshift wr>nerfed into the ground>dynamo untouched
>>567908408uhh she got like 0.0002 bullet damage and 2 hp regen she's literally nighshift carry tier
>>56790840818 year olds are not children
>Urn Brool>Rem buffed substantially>Melee Drifter now potentially viable>Everybody's gonna build the new T1 barrier item>Wallbreaker Victor's cock surgically removedI mean it's alright
>>567908431Sorry been spamming to yoshi how i like grabbing 5 people with shoulder charge
>victor nerfed>apollo nerfedOk that's nice>graves got 1 minor buff and 1 debatable buff and 10% less gun damage on her already dogshit gun>mina and dynamo got a slap on the wristyoshi what the fuck?
FIX HOLLIDAYYYYYYYYYYNOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
>Graves buffedLmao. Redditors and M1ggers btfo
>>567908180Have you considered getting good?
>>567907906I was hoping they'd bring back two targets, instead we got a straight -10% damage debuffFeels bad being a gun graves enjoyerWell, that's why I spammed her when it was good, because I knew it couldn't last
>>567907396Billybro... he got nerfed...
brool in mid for urn might be a worst version of dota. i cant wait for meme back meta
yeah matchmaking still sucks first match is a smurfing vindicta mo and krill duo that ults you and snipes you
These urn changes suck. Just played the biggest snowball game of my life. Is it even a comeback mechanic anymore
>>567908487>Melee Drifter now potentially viableNopeYou literally have to be right in front of them to proc the melee on his 1Just keep your distance and his melee items become wasted souls.
>>567908546>didn't read the patch notes award
movementniggers got nerfed? it's a good patch. good patch
>>567908685Anon his second skill is LITERALLY to teleport behind you
>- Apollo: Riposte no longer automatically dashes. It now grants you a sub ability immediately to target the hero you want to jump to for a brief duration (can target the enemy before the parry to buffer it). Cast range is 25m.I posted about it in this thread. They're actually stealing my idea. I told anons that it should not be an escape tool, and that it should parry you in the direction of who attacked you.
Vegas team just rushed mid boss one minute in with 6 monster rounds
>>567909015>I can't aim!!! HELP YOSHI!!!!
>you can take mid boss before urn even spawns
>>567908707>reduced damage>ram nerfed for no reason
>>567906470Thats better than what we had before, which was a lot of games being thrown by the underdog team trying to contest their own goddamn comeback urn
ULTBOT MINA IS KINDA DEAD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>567909172Yeah but you won't.The real timer for that shit has always been the arbitrary respawn time curve.
>>567909037Okay but why wouldn't you just build pure markOr anything else instead of proccing your melee items once.
>boxes above mid still don't spawn at normal times nowI get it but I still wish they would
>>567909015GoodSpastic movement faggotry would be the death of this game and invites cheats and scripts to abuse movement bugs
>>567909150>leaving your 3 lanes unattended for rejuvs when cooldowns are like 5 seconds compy or not?
>>567907972Good.
>>567909279>you wonthttps://www.twitch.tv/vegas/clip/StylishLongSalsifyPJSugar--1Cz2eKzLjICsxhS
>>567909015Is the wall jump stamina regen nerf really that substantial
I kinda want to play billy, but I know I'm asking to get parried
>dome doesn't freeze the urn deposit timer>the enemy team cannot do anything about you doming the urnthere's no way this is intended
ummm your grit?>ffxiv bunny.jpg
I'm oracle 6 why is this literal subhuman in my lobby? 0 kill participation at 20 minutes
Just tried melee drifter and it was awful. Rend is unreliable on good day, on high ping it literally misses 90% of the time and you get parried with your back to enemies
the mix up with drifters q and melee is good for baiting out parries
>>567907972I clapped and basedjacked and shed a tear
>>567907794I'll have to see how it plays but from how the patch notes describe it the skull tracking sounds much much more reliable. Nothing about improving the zombie AI though which is unfortunate.
>>567908431But... why should Abrams be melee?
>>567909382>everyone is gonna do this in every match nowfun
the grit icon is very ugly
>the echoshard rem build that i used to play got substantial buffsoh baby
>heya hoya is even more annoying now
WHAT???HER ULT IS NOT 360° AOE????????
>>567909445Just get in their face and start shooting. Most players will panic and parry as soon as you get close. Go nuts afterward
>>567909484I told you earlier in the thread my guy, its the worst possible build for the guyEven if it wasn't cucked by distance, it would still be questionable.>>567909580Because his current state is just gay spirit victor wannabeAt least with melee he's engaging you beyond just holding w with his siphon active.
>>567909382And everyone leaves with 0 rejuvs.Though that is a massive soul swing holy shit. Midboss giving 2K souls at minute 1 is kind of insane.
>no matchmaking updatesFucking nigger. It's still the stomp or be stomped bulilshit.
Whats the best lineup for fastest possible midboss?
>>567907182Based changes.Parry whiners deserve to be shat on.
Valve fears this
>>567909869I'm going to find parry scripters like yourself and flay you, that is to say peel your skin smoove off
>Sharpshooter can be built from either High-Velocity Rounds or Long Rangewhy?
>>567909907KINOOOOOO
>>567906105wut xD just play
I don't know about these Doorman changes. Him not being able to close the door is fair and makes sense, but at the same time its another case of "what the fuck am i supposed to do as this character". There are two types of Doorman: the kidnap doorman who sits mid all game and the jungle invading pickoff Doorman. But the problem is that you can't invade evemy jungle anymore, since you can't escape consistently with door. So am i just supposed to play kidnap build forever? What is the character actually meant to do? Doors are still extremely powerful for mid-fight positioning and moving your team around, which is what he's used for in competitive, but its getting really hard to do anything other than kidnap when it comes to pub games.
>>567909693Oh nooooo, how terrible, now you have to look in the vague direction of a player in order to get your aimbot to work. They changed it last patch btw
>>567909907>Call him Midboss>We fight him early gameWhat did Valve mean by this
>>567909991or both!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>567910040I think 8 seconds is too longThey shpuld at least drop it to 4 maybe even 3
>>567908262>he's litearlly impossible to parry>...if they don't buy debuff resist>...and if you buy this specific item>...and if you rush T2 on this specific ability>...and if they don't dodge or jump over your extremely obvious charge ability>...and if the servers don't randomly shit themselves because you're playing against people from 2000 ping buttfvcking Lithuania >if you accomplish ALL OF THESE THINGS, you get A FREE HEAVY MELEE... like once every 33 secondsoh mister krabs i'm feeling itforget spirit Abrams, i want to play bullshit checklist Abrams
>>567910040You have a 4 second disarm with changes stfuREAD NIGGA READ- Doorman: Call Bell inaccuracy debuff no longer diminishes from 100% to 0% over 1 second (the rest of the debuff is 4s)- Doorman: Call Bell inaccuracy debuff reduced from -100% to -40% (lasts the full duration)
>>567906614aint that just haze
patch status?
- Removed two jump pads from around the middle of the map that point to outwards (to the left and right respectively)- Sliding no longer resets sprint speed- Stamina Regeneration is reduced by 25% for 5s after using a Wall Jump. This does not trigger when out of combat or when mantling soon after.THEY KILLED MOVEMENT TRANNIES. GOD I FUCKING HATED THAT BOOST BULLSHIT ON THE VENTS
>>567910208Its nowhere near a "disarm", i already tested it in-game. 40% innacuracy is going to reduce their damage output, but its far from a disarm.
>>567910047I don't play her but I always thought it's like Katarina's ult from league or something. wtf you can just try to hop over or wiggle back and forth then instead of running like a chicken.
WAIT WHAT THE FUCK MAGIC CARPETS AIR CONTROL IS PASSIVE????
>Silver's gun shoots faster and she gets bola duration earlierAs if she needed a better lane wtf
>yamato buffsoh my god yoshi i'm going to fucking rape you
>>567910171>>...if they don't buy debuff resistDoesn't work if you have T2 charge really if you're actually buffering the melee>>...and if you buy this specific itemWhich item?>>...and if you rush T2 on this specific abilityT2 shoulder charge has ALWAYS been an immediate rush for any build that wasn't spirit leech build. You should have it way before you have T2 resilience on every non-spirit build even with this change.>>>...and if they don't dodge or jump over your extremely obvious charge abilityThen play smart and don't whiff the charge like a retard? Charge is only mildly not retard proof. You're fucking abrams, why are you charging from 10 miles away.>>Muh pingSorry not a turd worlder.You just sound like a faggot.
>graves is S tier againnew permaban just dropped
>>567903735HOLY FUCK BIG FOR MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thoughts on Grit? I can see buying it against a Bebop lane i guess, you can activate if you get hooked or bombed
>>567909465yes obv retard
>>567910623prepare to get mogged in ranked, nigga
>lash gun gutted>tiny spirit buff Lash bros it's over.
>>567910623Its more of a cancerous nerf. So you have to rush grapple now, unlike before I could get T2 on garpple and max out power strike first. Now you get 3 charges, 5 if you get extra charge. Honestly they made her weaker but more annoying if you speed run T3 on her. I'm glad in a way since I would always get extra charge and now its gonna be hilarious chasing people down.
>>567910040It utterly destroyed how I played him, mostly green and survival and utility, even so far as echo shard door. Now its entirely fucked. I would have rather some other aspect of his kit got gutted, not the DOORs for DOORman.
>>567909693Welcome to several patches ago
>yes, I have successfully macroed and now the minion wave will help me push towards walker>enemy minion glitches into wall>entire wave locks into said minion and stays behind
you know what this game needed? MORE TEAM FIGHTS IN MIDplease enjoy your mandated mid team fight on cooldown
the matchmaking is STILL garbage DUDE IVE HAD 2 STOMP GAMES BACK TO BACK SINCE PATCH
So... whens the major update?
>>567911251Two more weeks
>>567910687>r-retard!>t-turd worlder!!>f-faggot..!concession accepted
just trappedmaxxed as venator doing 539 damage each it was kino
>>567911251august
>>567910493Yeah I missed that the first time through tooIt might actually get fucking bought outside of shitposts on occasion now
>>567909015movement got buffed retard, you can buy items to give yourself increased air control aka the stat that enables all the movement bullshit
>>567911292>>567911251this feels like julyand june is just gonna be minor balance patches tweaking this kne
You guys weren't actually shit talking me in your secret club though right :(
>>567910040Streamers couldn't handle the Doorman. Now we have to suffer because they can't understand basic positioning. Honestly its crazy how people think he is OP. Bell Doorman was OP, because its easy to land but kidnapping takes more skill and is easy to counter if you never get into a position to be kidnapped. I play in a variety of ways but they should take off the close cooldown because that ruins many aspects of him. I like to play him like a melee burst assassin and use door to escape but now I will be chased and killed.
>>567905807the temple was still out of the way and occluded, new urn location is directly in the middle of an active lane
How does the new hp nerf feel?
>>567911462no they were trollingbison left because dynamo went afk
>>567910760>Thoughts on Grit?Instant counter to any bursty lanerShit's gonna be disgusting, I can already tell
The urn change has to be the most retareded, dumbest fucking niggered idea that only someone as retarded as Dota 2 dev could come up with. Literally just "winning team now steamrolls 999x faster" because there's simply no fucking way the losing team will ever get the urn now when contesting.
>>567909051Wow youre a genius, now kill yourself. Apollo unplayable
>arctic blast just straight up kills movement (4s stam freeze)LMAOING so hard right now. If your hero builds cold front and benefits from CF, you'd be stupid not to upgrade it to arctic.
What's a good Graves build now?
Just played and won a game of Deadlock. Didn't read anything so I was very confused by the new Urn mechanics.
>boy gun lash is lame, I hope they nerf it and buff spirit lash so it's not garbage>oh nice gun lash nerfs>now for the spirit lash nerfs>right?
>>567911679>I don't get to escape for free from every single engagementthis shit's a buff because now when I try to use it to cancel dynamo ults I don't get caught on the rem that randomly jumps in front of me
KELVINBROS?????
>>567911697either summonmax with echo shard 2 or the same gun debuffer build as before
>>567911679What's funny though is that someone replied to me that it's a buff because now they can target the ulting Seven easier now. KEKAROOOOOOOO>>564277000 Found my post too
>>567911561>How does the new hp nerf feel?I don't even get the point-10 HP at level 1? But an extra 3 per level? Does that even fucking matter? Am I missing something blatantly obvious?>>567910760>Thoughts on Grit?It'll be a standard lane green pickup on a bunch of heroes like healing rite or regen
>>567911697Either echo shard jar + heroic aura (this was already pretty good and will just be better with the skull buffs and heroic aura buff) or echo shard + wall spam now that they gave her back the extra ghoul on wall (jury's out on this one because ghouls didn't get any buffs but that build was pretty strong before). Gun graves might still be fine, dunno yet.
Trans niggas rly conquered this game
this patch is whatever doesnt f ix the fact that mm is terrible
>>567911808Oh he looks paler and he has glowing blue eyes.I guess we know what the remodel will look like.
>play a game>game was going okay>enemies win urn ONCE>they proceed to steamroll, impossible to win urn back so they just run it down as soon as it spawns>game over by minute 20epic, so fucking epicthe best part was when i could snatch the urn with green arrow and instead of being able to just go into our base to collect our pity souls we had to fight mid and when i put the urn they hit it with melee (my parry whiffed) and they got the urn instantly
>>567911808Looks better but why does he have chipmunk teeth now?
>- Calico: Gloom Bomb T2 changed from "+75 Damage to Barriers" to "-5% Melee Resist for 5s Per Bomb" (stacks)Stop with this bullshit, Valve. I want the spirit bomber Calico back. Not this fucking melee slasher bullshit.
>play holliday>majestic leap>melee urn in leap>get on top of bridge>drop urn>jump pad>pick up urn again>get to drop off point in less than 8 seconds
>>567911669her video with twomad was so hott rip fat nigga
I don't even know who to play now. Apollo gutted, Geist still ass, Drifter still ass, Victor gutted. WtfWho is good right now?
>Doorman guttedHow many damage nerfs are they going to give him before they just make his bell non-lethal?>Graves super buffedBut an extra fuck you to her gun damage, what, out of truma?>>567911697I'm going to try echo shard grasping hands + heroic aura + duration extender.
>>567912191Graves
doorman sisters how are we feeling? done a couple games on him and won both, you have to be more careful with door placements and do things like pre opening so people dont run out, but he doesn't feel that much worse now
>>567908405the next iteration of the urn is going to be payload.
>>567911669+50% resists to losing team HOWEVER
games still dog shit
>>567912191shiv got buffs to a ton of items he really likes, and didn't actually get nerfed but just got cope "it does the same thing when you upgrade it to t2" changes
The game still sucks wow heroes got nerfed cool the game is STILL stomp or be stomped Im genuinely getting tired of these awful games
>>56791125128th, they accidently leaked it with this patch release
>Two ghouls on Grasping HandsFinally they brought back the fun way to play Graves
>>567911669the urn only exists to make the game more e-sports friendly. its purpose is to create more drama and spectacular team fights for spectators and for casters to drum up excitement, but for the people actually playing it's a fucking drag that'll never not favor the team ahead.
I don't understand how to play around the new urn. It requires even more team coordination now because you need your retarded team to do a KotH stand on the bridge
>>567908408The regen helps her early game and the extra gun damage scales with every item, since gun scales with percentages, if her gun does 20 and then she buys 100% gun damage she does 40, so extra BASE gun damage helps alot
WHEREARETHEREMODELS
>>567912569silver tongue-punching graves's unwashed fartbox...
>lash completely ruinedokay I needed to take a break from this game anyway
>>567911897>-10 HP at level 1? But an extra 3 per level? Does that even fucking matter? Am I missing something blatantly obvious?The fact that it's three LESS hp per boon, not three MORE. It's also base health, which means green investment will be worse at all points in the game
>NOOOOOO WHAT DO YOU MEAN URN ISNA STRATEGIC AND TEAMPLAY ORIENTED OBJECTIVE NOW??? I CAN'T DO THE SNEAKY EBIN BACKDOOR URN ANYMORE AIIEEEE
>>567912191They need to buff Geist across the fucking board, especially with this stupid T1 item that can now completely negate her bombs on lane, removing the one thing she was still good at. I think at a minimum they need to increase the spirit scaling on everything, put life drain back at 80% lifesteal, and increase her bullet scaling.
every single game is still a stomp who cares?
>>567912191>victor gutted13 damage to 12 damage is gutted?they hit his damage by less than 10 percent and didn't touch his ult cooldown
>>567912645years of TF2 have taught me most people are allergic to very basic KotH or capturing control points objectives, so expect running the urn to somehow even be worse
>Character gets passive that gives bonus damage for shooting their gun, something every other character also doesAnd every character who has this gets to be fucking broken for so long
>"drifter's T3 rend deals heavy melee damge">try a full melee build>it's shite>look closer>T3 doesn't actually increase the rend damage at allThat's so useless...
Calicobros...does this actually mean anything?
>>567912864?????????????????????????????????? it was never sneaky because it shows the urn's position on the map at all times and has been that way ever since the urn mechanic was implemented
>>567912836Oh whoopsEven so it's like what... -115 HP at max level? That still feels absolutely negligible
>>567913128It also doesn't proc melee abilities some times. Which doesn't make fucking sense at all.
>>567912191>Victor gutted. Wtfhes not gutted the new artic blast is huge for him, spirit is back
>>567913252It means movementrannies can't just beeline to the urn dropoff and instantly get the rewards
I am going fucking insaneThis is two major balance patches nowWhere is the actual content
OH SHIT SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEPOSITING PHASE MEANT. IT HAS A TIMER, IT'S NO LONGER AN INSTANT DUNK. WE ARE ACTUALLY PERMAFIGHTING MID FOR URN WHAT THE FUCK
>>567912191Time to grow a pair and play Yamato like a man
>>567913315It's base HP so its probably more like -200 with green investment. Not a lot, but not nothing either.
>>567912972The scaling per boon is dogshit now
>>567909693>Haze players when they have to use a modicum of brain power
What were the actual good changes this update cuz im not seeing any.Character power tier list looks like it was barely moved except Graves and Rem went up a good number of spaces.
>>567913625My main got buffed :)
>>567913625>there is much less of a power gap between the worst characters in the game and everybody elseThose qualify as good changes, anon!
>8 fucking seconds to close a doorAre these devs retarded?
>>567913625Apollo and Mina both took significant nerfs.
This patch literally is Yoshi trying to force a deathball/brawl meta. We're brawling. Build trophy, build grit, and let's brawl!
>>567910091it is a BOSS in the MIDdle of the map
>>567907794(me)>>567909551Ok i tried her and the skulls finally work, I'm glad but i would like to take this opportunity to sayFUCK yoshi and FUCK icefraud, she has been in this dogshit game for 4 monthes and just now her summons work? What the fuck took them so long fuck me i knew the skulls were bad and i complained but i didn't know they were THIS bad, no wonder no one built spirit because it's fucking impossible because her main skill didn't fucking work.Whatever, it finally works i guess, my thoughts on graves in her current state are that she know has an even worse early game then she did before, and by that i mean I'm confident in saying her early game is on par with paige and silver with her being unable to kill minnons or do damage, but on the bright side she actually has spells, mind you the spells are pathetic but they're something at least, you can actually throw the skulls and expect them to do something, in an ideal world I'd hope for changes to her gun passive but I'm unfortunately expecting her to be nerfed cause faggots like metro can't press Q.I'm gonna go rebuild my graves build since it's very outdated now, i need to find a solution for the dogshit early game and see weather I'm zombie or skull maxxing, also i fully expect this to get nerfed cause the zombies push waves now, it's fine since rem is still better and that's her gimmick but as i said, metrotards can't handle the graveyard queen, i hope I'm wrong and they leave her alone, or better yet they buff or change her passive
>>567913857doorman door placement didnt work for the same amount of time
when a team is behind, it's usually for the best that they don't engage the enemy team in a fair situation, this way the losing team can lick their wounds until they hit a power spike or the enemy makes a mistake.The new urn system forces the losing team to do the one fucking thing it really doesn't want to do, which is engaging the enemy in a direct and predictable manner, so why in god's name did they think turning the Urn into fucking KotH would achieve anything besides pushing the winning team into an even more favorable position.yes, 50% to both resistances is a massive boost to survival during the fight, but the winning team can simply murder the losing team before the urn is planted by either team, the buff doesn't mean shit if the losers have to spend 50% of their resources just planting the damn thing to begin with
>>567913893door placement still doesnt work wym
>>567913857>mean I'm confident in saying her early game is on par with paigepaige is a rapist early game, i dare say she is at the strongest during laning
>>567913902If you can't win a straight fight with literally doubled HP you're done for anyway
>>567909051everyone thought this
>>567913902If your team can't hold a position with a FIFTY PERCENT RESIST BUFF then the match is too far gone already
Could it be? Shiv buffs?
marvel rivals fucking won with this patch.its over.
>>567910171>>...and if you buy this specific item>>...and if you rush T2 on this specific abilityyou already were doing this on every abrams build if you werent retarded anyway
>>567914306This is a key jingling patch
So doorman needs 8 second prep time to escape, but Mina can still blink 3 times?
This is the first patch where i'm not going to play right after it comes out because all my friends quit the game because of the matchmaking. Used to play with 3 people and none of them want to play anymore because match quality has been consistently terrible
>>567910171shopping list Abrams ikz
>>567913857For reference in the patch in the graves section the word fixed is mentioned 6 times, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING LEAVING IT LIKE THAT FOR 4 MONTHS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
2 games I had to new players, I know emissary is low but come on new players at that rank?
>>567914443bro there is new players in high oracle games. matchmaking is fucked
>>567914379The cooldown for door starts when you place the second door, so you actually can't use the door to escape at all anymore.
>>567914443new players are in initiate - phantom because eternus can queue with a brand new account locking that account at high mmr and preventing deranking due to smurf detection
>>567913363that still wasn't the case unless the stars were aligned and your team somehow had:1) a competent movement-tranny2)meet the soul difference requirement to have the drop off spawn in your team's favor3)reasonable control of the drop off point (you generally don't have control of the map while behind)4)majority of the enemy team unable or unwilling to contest the urn even though they are ahead
>>567914389You and your friends made up two thirds of the team and you can't get consistently good matches?
Why the fuck is Celeste receiving buffs patch after patch, I was on the leaderboards for this hero for a while until the matchmaking decided I was having too much fun and decided to hand me 6 loses in a row and I can tell you this hero does not need buffs what the fuck
Oh no Graves is good time for nerfs tomorrow.
>>567914541Yeah, maybe exactly because we made up two thirds of a team that match quality was terrible. If you queue in as a four-stack you're almost guaranteed to get a four+ stack on the enemy team, except they might be on a completelly diferent vibe. I was just playing with the boys, we're getting enemy deathstacks who are actively trying to rank up as much as possible and they just demolish us, or we get an enemy team with a stack of people who just installed the game this week and we demolish them. Neither of them is particularly engaging
>"Minor patch today">*peek inside*>We completely changed movement options around mid to facilitate an entirely new iteration of the urn mechanic. Oh also, midboss is now spawned at match start, boxes spawn a minute late, and everyone can now buy a 200hp barrier active for 800swhat the FUCK
>kelvin killedfinally
I DEMAND more inhouses!...pwease...
>>567914806did you rike it?
I here........I am .........*dies*
I like the new urn, it feels more interactive, i didn't read the patch for it throughly but i did play and it's very fun, way more fun the dumb retarded old urn >>567914716Her stamina regen got cucked and cornerboosting got cucked, so they did infact nerf the most bullshit aspect of her nerf, idc about the damage buffs as long as this horsecock whore doesn't fly everywhere
Oh God. How am I gonna survive lane now?
>1 nerf and scaling adjustment for her 3>gun fires faster now, damage adjusted to make dps unchanged (this is a nerf to her gun invest scaling)>ult attack speed nerfed, spirit scaling increased (spirit is not even thought about as a stat on her)>no exception in the sweeping health nerfsA buff not included in the patch notes is she gains flat healing on ult now 0+ 1(one) hp per boon
>>567914983Grit
So some quick reactions to this after a match:>grit will 100% get nerfed (probably longer cd)>magic carpet is still a meme but mildly viable now>doorman can still kidnap well but you actually need someone with cc waiting on the other side of the door>havent fought against apollo yet but his fuckass riposte dash can get fucked>graves feels a bit better>venator is chunky as fuck nowI dont know about dynamo or victor yet
>>567914789Last time they nerfed her in 4 days, let's see how long this one lasts skullbro>>567914920I wouldn't mind joining inhouse, in like 10 or 20 minutes
>>567911305Fine I'll remove the insults because they hurt your fee fees anon and make you piss your pants.>Don't obviously charge from 3 miles away. >Don't have shitty internet.>Your points are moot and disingenuous.
>Buy Superior Duration>Tag-Along to a teammate>Throw out Focus Lens>Enemy is now silenced for around 7 secondsGod this is fucking stupid. I love it.
>>567914983more box runs :)
Grit is kind of shit btw, 200 barrier every minute is almost never going to be worth buying in lane, you guys are extremely overrating it
>>567915119Oh and the urn.I dont know yet. I think once the team behind understands they get absurd resistances people will.play around it better. Because I was able to 1v2 easily with that buff.
>>567915142Paige and Rem might be the best supports right now because it's looking like a barrier meta.
>Mina dies 10 times in lane against Yamato in laneNo. That's great. Thank you for buffing this teleporting gook even more
What does Doorman do now?
>>567915190free positive engagement for 800 is broken as shit and it builds into shit too, it's a good item
>>567912173you mean this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQYy2dgw8VI
Apollo bros are we dead ass brolike are we dead ass dead ass?
>>567914959Then you better not check what she can do with Magic Carpet's new passives lol
>>567915312Anon. Mina is the gook and Yamato is the nip.
>>567915190it's an incredibly cheap antibursti haven't played a match on new patch yet, but i can easily see it doing well against silver/bebop/lash/mina in lane
>>567915467yeah and mina teleports
>>567915190If you're a mongoloid that does not know your brool timings, yeah it's a bad item.
>>567915556Whats with Asians and teleporting?
>>567915316He's The Man.
>>567915625Stereotypes, mostly
>>567914806>Oh also, midboss is now spawned at match startThe most nothing burger 'major' change of the patchRespawns are so short early game even a team wipe won't give you enough time to do mid boss, if anything you'll just hand it to them because they're full HP and you're not and early game fight recovery is horrible. Also letting the enemy team get free access to wave and fucking over your early game soul gain for early rejuv is terrible.Can you even do decent damage to midboss right out the gate?Maybe nightshift will find out some fucking insane game winning strat with early rejuv or whatever. I doubt it.
Hey does the urn resist buff only apply if your team is the one holding it? Or can I literally just murder the shit out of the enemy team while they're carrying the thing?
>Ultbot Seven rushes lightning scroll>Doesn't get escalating exposure
>>567915410we are dead ass dead dead, its time to take the 大和pill
>Miss ONE parry on Abrams>Die instantly>inb4 just buy Rebuttal
>>567915705>Can you even do decent damage to midboss right out the gate?A full team with just monster rounds can kill it pretty quick.see>>567909382
Why do people seethe so much at grappling hook lmaowould it be better if it was just an animation where yamato turns into a shadow instead and rushes you instead of spinning like an idiot?
>>567915729Seems like it applies no matter who is holding it.
>>567915754>not buying rebuttal against a melee laneIt's only 800 nigga
Inhouse up7ZYYG7ZYYG7ZYYG
Doorman's door will never, never EVER be used to transport allies into a fight. I don't fucking care about the barrier you get from going through it. I don't care about not being able to save it for an escape. If I open it in the face of allies running away they will just ignore it and walk past it.>>567915316The same as before but shittier. Spam CC items.
>>56791588360m radius and 50% resists are pretty fucking insane considering you get them even if the enemy team is carrying the fucking thing
>>567905371It's a meaningless nerf to pretend that they are trying to balance Mina, she's simply a broken by design character like Shiv and Celeste.
>>567915942why did you make an inhouse just as I started a brool?!
>>567916032why are you playing fucking brools
>>567915990It is. They need to hotfix the resists. 50% is just literally free urn for the shitter losing team.
>>567915190if nothing else it helps ensure that you don't take more damage then you healed trying to jump to the heal creep in a losing lane
KELVIN'S FROZEN SHELTER DOES NOT STOP THE URN FROM DEPOSITING. ABUSE BEFORE IT GETS HOTFIXED. LITERALLY FREE URN.>>567916032>started a broolbro just play standard and run the urn. it's street brool lmao
>>567915807I found the Yamato abuserThe hook should be a skillshot and it shouldn't be able to teleport through walls, or give +40 spirit power
I LOVE URN BRAWL RIVALS THANK YOU CHINA FOR THIS GAME
buff her buff her buff her buff her buff her buff her buff her buff her buff her
Need 2 for inhouse7ZYYG7ZYYG7ZYYG7ZYYG
Remember when /dlg/ thought indomitable was going to be a mandatory buy for every build?
>>567915990desu i think it will be hotfixed. they're setting it to an insane number to dial it down. i don't even think they think its reasonable
>>567916319>Majority of playerbase become Overwatch/Rivals teamfighters after old gods update>Trophy collector gets buffed to fit their playstyle>Now urn gets buffed to fit their playstyle
>>567916375Its just linkens I dont get why people thought it was op
>>567916303so it should just be shit and pointless
>>567916349Need 1 for inhouse
>erm... yikes... I know that you're called DOORman but... yeah... no... we can't let you actually use them. You see, streamers were getring upset over having to play against something that isn't m1 spam or spirit burst so... sorry, not sorry.>oh dynamo, my sweet little peach tart... I'm so sorry but I can't give you any more buffs... I know, I know, deep breaths... I'm really sorry, but people have been complaining, and they might uninstall if you end up being a S++++++ hero for the 27th patch in a row... Look, I'm going to give you a minor gun damage nerf. Shh shh shhh, it's okay, I'll revert it next patch, don't worry.
>>567916509Oh no not her hook!! It's not like you have the highest scaling damage ability in the game or anything, or unstoppable on your ultFucking disgusting overtuned gook character
shiv is kinda like black panther if bp had mental retardation
>more and more people are waking up to yamatoNOOOOO STOP FUCKING PICKING MY MAIN
>>567916550restarting for updateStill same code7ZYYG7ZYYG7ZYYG
EIGHT FUCKING SECONDS TO CLOSE A DOOR
>>567916704I never thought about it but damn Shiv really does play like Black Panther
>>567916831Nevermind valve is retardedCB8BBCB8BBCB8BBNew inhouse code
>>567916319>>567916445>>NOOOOOO IT SHOULD BE A SNOWBALL MECHANIC NOT A COMEBACK MECHANIC
>>567916832Would it have saved them?
hows this for a comeback mechanic chud? *cums on graves back*
>>567917120She's a child for fucks sakes...
>>567915942>errorYOU LIED
>>567917203There was a patchNew code isCB8BBCB8BBCB8BBNeed 2 niggas
>>567917179graves could be like 50 and just held back for 30 years because she's stupid af
>Rebuttal: Parry cooldown reduced from -2s to -1.75sDisgusting. I can't believe Valve would enable cheaters like this.
>>567917062>even the other team is actually honestly laughing at himGod that must have hurt
>>567917179canonically 18 and ready to be mating pressed
>>567917027i wanted graves damn it
deadlock is going to add memeback
>>567917483Nobody tell him.
>>567916445NOOO URN SHOULD ONLY REWARD SCHMOVERS YOU SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO FIGHT OVER IT NOOO
>>567917179>She's a childout of 10
>>567912191ginnis got another buff
>rush t2 tag along in lane on rem>buy grit>use tag along on lane partner>use grit>your lane partner is now unkillable Ain't no fucking way.
I've played all of two games with this mid urn shit and I can already tell it's complete fucking garbage. They gotta hotfix this shit out.
>Rem has a skill named TagalogFilipino representation is weird
>>567917653rivals won.china won. enjoy memorial day as your brother dies in iran, american gwalio
>>567917609literally the same as getting guardian ward early, in fact, it makes it even easier to get ward
>every match has been decided by ult spamming mcguiness>its even worse because if you lose lane against her theirs zero chance of you stopping urns since their virtually free due to wall + sentries holding lanethe urn shit was the biggest buff to this fucking character
>>567917741>finally get some male hapa representation>it's marred by last minute lgbt shitit's over
So if celeste buys magic carpet now then she just has -75% gravity
>grey talon buffedthey really are actual retardsnobody interacts with this character outside of proshe just floats in the air 40 meters away spamming m1why would you design such a braindead character?
>>567918040She already won every urn fight with the previous system so this is barely a change.
Is Kelvin shit now?
>>567918078blursed image
Velocity additive stacking just saved gun for me, now I can actually go back to playing gun Viscous and Kelvin without wanting to rip my fucking eyes out
>>567918078what a beautiful family :)
>>567918191>>he just floats in the air 40 meters away spamming m1>He doesn't knowRain of arrows duration is so low now.
>>567918256No because dome doesn't freeze the urn dropoff timer.Once they fix that he'll probably be shit.
>casually reduces bebop weapon damage by 20% rather than just bullet damageThanks for killing melee bebop for no reason
you can max out your tc stacks even faster now since we have urn fights in mid every 5 mins, no reason not to buy that item every game
>>567918379But beam Kelvin is dead
>>567918256It's not goodKnockdown actually works as intended on him now
whos the fucking retard that thought graves was underpowered to deserve all this bullshit?you're a retarded faggot twitter youtube opinion having queer.>YEAH LETS HAVE A FUCKING ZOMBIE SPAWN ON THE CC GRAB LIKE IT WASNT ANNOYING ENOUGH>YEAH LETS MAKE HER RANGE EVEN BIGGER THEN FUCKING SW IN RIVALS>YEAH LETS GIVE SMURF PLAYERS ANOTHER FUCKASS ANNOYING PERSON TO PLAY AND STOMP WITH
I haven't even been playing Deadlock, I've been playing Overwatch
>>567908408>Knockup durations are now affected by debuff reductionNot only did she not get anything, she received a massive nerf :)Seriously, knockup into headshot/lasso is much fucking harder now because everyone stays in the air a random amount of time now this is bullshit
>>567918823I'm trans btw
I mean...at least he tried.
>>567918823I tried overpiss for 25 minutes and uninstalledyou die in like 1 secondif I want to play counter-strike I'll just play that also the women are flat as fuck
>>567919081>also the women are flat as fuckBut enough about deadlock
>Ult is even harder to popYeah I'm thinking S+++er is F tierI enjoyed being string in lane for a grand total of 3 minutes
>>567918981but deadlock is the game known for trannies
>>567918823>>567918981>>567919081Tried playing Marvel Rivals. Genuinely ass. Just isn't fun, gameplay is bad. Uninstalled. Overwatch isn't great but it's better than that and clicking on enemies and them dying is nice after playing Deadlock for so long but it's 10 years old now. Saw this new Hela skin, reinstalled the bloated game, bought the skin, then uninstalled again
>>567919326brain damaged behavior
my BWC for Paige
>>567919319Sadly it's both games, but at least Deadlock doesn't have a queer flag to put in your profile... yet
even more paradox buffs heheheheHAHAHAHA
Uhh this spirit snatch buff is fucking turbo massive btw
Is Warden still good?
>>567919413she might actually be C+ tier now
>shivSlap on the wrist and buffed M2 movement because of slide changes. Also slightly buffed because his items got buffed>drifterUntouched and slightly buffed since his items are buffed. The T5 melee was fucking whatever anyway.I ate good.
>>567919429>melee items buffed>puddle punch buffedit's time...
>>567919392>BWCbitty wittle clitty
>>567919319He says, as he readies up for the Overwatch pride event in a week
>>567909382>3k soul lead right out the batare you fucking for real right now
>>567919545>>567919319Deadlock trannies in this very thread
How long until streamer retards like eido find a new character to call OP and broken?
>>567919565Careful lest you provoke a surprise June first ever pre release pride event for DL
>>567919652It's still shiv.
>>567919326Deadlock needs a tribal hero that wears this
>>567919565Still nowhere near as pozzed and freakish as the fucking trannies that literally steer Deadlock's development on Reddit. When Deadlock starts doing its own pride event it'll be even worse.
Haze is a character for faggots holy shit. When is this piece of shit ult getting nerfed to be a skillshot like Venator?
>>567919326holy fucking mental illness
>>567919652eido doesn't like playing shiv and every time he played him, he sucked ass with it. he just doesn't understand the hero, i guess.
>>567919649If you say so, clittyboi
IM TIRED OF BALANCE PATCHESI NEEEEEED CONTENT
Been watching Deathy play the new patch and all matches have devolved into an endless fight for the urn in the middle with everyone constantly killing themselves, and these are e6 lobbies. There's also the problem that since both of the most important objectives in the game are now in the middle of the map the side lanes are more abandoned than ever
>>567905238context?
>>567920264Guess theyre gonna revert it in a day or two kek
>Chink name Haze and Vindicta on enemy team>They both have killstreak icons in laneYeah that's great
urn spawns too much
>>567920080the new urn is new content
>>567920413I was thinking the same thing. I think the urn spawn rate was fine for the old urn, but this new one needs to spawn only every 10 minutes or something
>>567920264BROOOOOOOOOOL
good lordtotal shotacon victory
>>567919529how does the slide changes effect shiv?
>>567920264>since both of the most important objectives in the game are now in the middle of the map the side lanes are more abandoned than everYou say that like it's NOT a good thingTHIS IS THE ERA OF THE RAT
>shitters all ignore the urn? >fine let's just build the urn around encouraging their retarded deathball brawl playstyle
They need to fucking update midboss alreadyRetards are trying to midboss early every game nowGive him actual mechanucs instead of just a cuck laser
>>567920606ShotaGAWDSWe won
EIGHT SECONDS IS INSANITY. 3 good, 5, fine, BUT 8?!
>>567920606>one of his skills is useable nowno?
>>567919812Trannies are fucking subhuman
I start throwing if anybody on my team has tranny shit in their names
>>567920706This lmaoI love sidelaning now
>>567920917not my problem initiate
>>567920990More proof that Eternus players are all trannies, they think that just because they get money from the government that they're better that everybody
>magic carpeting urn with paradoxfucking ZOOMIN urns now
how fast are they going to revert the mega rem buffs and football urn, do you think?
>>567921071whatever you say chuddy.stay mad stay bad
>>567920917I'm tempted to when I even see chimpspeak
How much crack was involved in making this patch, dear G-d what the F*CK were they thinking
These buffs to Rem are good but they won't matter for 80% of the Rem players because they never buy active items and play exclusively around pillow
>>567918312the cooldown reduction is so high now. with extended duration you have 4 seconds of downtime. the skill is objectively better now
>>567921071They wish. Thankfully they're being cracked down on harder than ever
>>567921214>>567920917>negrobabble zoomer slang being used: i throw>pronouns, puppygirls, furry shit, or any other tranny shit in steam names: i throw
Spirit Venator status?
I'm sick and tired of brooltards and I want them all to go back to Overwatch
>>567918786She WAS shit and her biggest change is that her skulls actually fucking work now so she feels insanely buffed just for being able to function. The level T0 zombie on the wall is so that shit doesn't get completely nullified with a single stamina bar, but yes, she will always be hard to balance.
need 1 for inhouseCB8BBCB8BBCB8BBCB8BB
I think the Urn changes are for the better and bring more team fights into the overall pacing of the match.
>>567921506The urn change is Yoshi kowtowing to the brooltards
>>567907972Good fucking riddance, I do NOT want to see the icy cunt in at least 2 more patches
WATER KNIGHT PICK
>>567921564I agree. I fucking hate all the farmslop and the farmslop heroes. The map is so small that if you try to invade and rape their farmslopper, the whole team will just collapse on you with 9 million movement techs meaning you can't really stop the farmnigger from farming. It's so fucking gay. Accelerating the game's pace is good for me.
>>567921564 Burenyuu
>>567921820people complaining about the side lines having nothing to do don't remember that because of this change they'll add side line objectives to compensate. they already literally said they're going to add more stuff to do
>>567921820Seven will continue to farm while you brawl
magic carpet may be joining stam mastery as a mandatory buy for all my builds
>side lane farmers get to farm even more as blue turns into even MORE of a permanent 4v4 brool
>>567921561>party is fullwelp...
>>567921949>because of this change they'll add side line objectives to compensate. they already literally said they're going to add more stuff to doIs the playerbase smart enough to handle that? They could barely handle the existing objectives to begin with
>>567921796Sry i was afk for a bit
You should unironically just rat all the time now.People are too broolbrained and keep going mid.
>>567921949Could've at least added the original drop-off points as options instead of just midPeople already brool nonstop in mid as it is, and midboss is always a concern now
>>567919652>doormanNext up is.... Spirit Lash.Screencap this post.
>>567922048Rem mains... the labubu mafia rules the sidelanes!
>>567911808NO NOT MY GOOFY ASS BASEDJACK FACE
If you think about itThe creep waves are essentially just payload but across three lanes and over the course of a matchSo it makes zero sense to make a payload modeEven street brawl is just payload
>no nerfs for dynamo???
>>567922630Quantum not dispelling any more would be a pretty significant nerf if the rest of his kit wasn't already overloaded.
Im done playing until they revert the doorman door close bullshit. Literally no fun allowed in this game.
All female characters line up infront of Holliday awaiting their daily milking session.
>Crippling Headshot: Bullet Resist reduction increased from -16% to -17%>Crippling Headshot: Spirit Resist reduction increased from -16% to -17%>open game, check shop>still -16%
pulling up the the mid urn brool fight with rebuttal and 6 1600 itemsI love this patch.
>>567922974>with rebuttaldisgusting cheat exploiterreminder that parries = cheats
>>567907763>30% accuracy loss is now a disarmAre you brown?
>>567922974I. Never. Stop. Holding. M. 1.You're in my face? I shoot. You're far away? I shoot. You parried? I shoot. You melee? I shoot.
>>567920606>Tag along speed increased by 50%But I was using that to not get knocked out of ult stuns...
victor with artic blast is so fucking funny
>>567920817>one2 actually >>567923245It's so you're not stuck chasing someone who's on the zipline
>>567916685you're absolutely right fuck these shameless niggers
Why do the trans people play Victor? Shouldn't they prefer Sinclair?
>>567920406My friend and I both changed our names to be chink characters just to insta-tilt enemy teams when we get off to a good start.
Pumping for Mina Ha!
>Doorman is now just 30% reduced accuracymanAmazing unique characters. May as well just play Marvel Rivals since its just Brool 24/7 bell throwing for no damage.
>4.8k changed to 6.4kMY BUILDS ARE FUCKED NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>567923592No dumbass look again
Obviously I knew that taking the urn to the new mid drop point would be much faster than running it across the map, but I truly wasn't prepared for just how fast it is in practice. You didn't used to need to anticipate urn spawn down to the second unless you were in like eternus, but I think that's going to change
>>567923592no retard 4.8k is untouched
>>567923560Deserved for playing doorman.
>>567923592No, retard. They just made 6.4k worth considering. I usually go 4.8k green after 4.8k gun/spirit because you needed 7.2k for the next big spike, BUT now you can delay the 4.8k green to invest into 6.4k for more damage. It opens up more build ideas.
ADD SERAPHIM WINGS TO STANDARD ALREADYMAKE IT A 12K UPGRADE OF MAGIC CARPET
>>567923461>he thinks trans people want to play the two divorced african americans in a mannequin over a man assembled from various corpses of both genders
>dome doesnt freeze urnholy lmao aint no way this wont get hotfixed right? dome max + alch fire = free games on kelvin rn
I was fucking around in sandbox with Celeste and magic carpet and it's funny as fuck, it's like playing with a zero g mod. You can climb most builds with a single wall jump.
>they nerfed melee range WHY
>>567923461because sinclair requires skill and victor doesnt.
>>567923249it really is
Okay I'm actually fine with the mid urn brool now lmao. I think the game needs some weird objectives in the sidelanes next.
How about that Dynamo nerf!
>>567919987eido is your classic moba streamer-only player it feels like, similar to gorqmakes good streaming content and is high on leaderboards but regularly chokes in pro content or isnt good enough for coordinated comp, only the chaos of lobby playits 2 different kinds of being good at the game, but i feel like he regularly does bad at DLNS
>>567924201huh
>>567924404You can't double melee jungle creeps in most spots
>>567894876look at his headshot damage RETARD
>>567923461There is literally nothing trans appealing about Sinclair (he's just an untextured mannequin), meanwhile Victor is a sexy goth guy covered in surgery scars, he's practically designed for FTM trannies to self insert as him
>>567924239>>567923249is the intent to freeze people while you wail on them or freeze people before you ult to guarantee the stuni guess you can kind of do bothvictor feels like he didnt really catch nerfs too bad
>>567924486Oh that's a pretty significant farming nerf for some heroes, being able to melee the entire t3 camp at once was incredibly efficient.
>>567923249mystic slow + arctic blast + t1 aurayessir
Is the streamer metro a good player? Want to watch someone that is good at the game
>>567923249WHATS THE FUCKING SMELL
maybe the rain of arrows changes were actually a buff
>>567924616Both. If you have your team by you it's best to just pop the arctic immediatelly to ensure a kill but if you think you're gonna get dropped you can save it for death.
>>567924707Yeah he's the king of Deadlock for a reason
>inhouse tries to stack teams twice in a row>hit random and the host doesn't notice so teams are now balancedheh heh heh...
Yamato is your new overpowered nigger hero this patch, u rike?
>>567924707watch me nigga im the best im the king nigga
>>567924707ragebait
>>567925078>Yamato is your new overpowered nigger herothat isn't a new overpowered nigger hero, its just a overpowered double nigger hero now
>>567925078Can they at least make her redesign sexy so I feel good about dying to a 1k damage slash instead of bad because an ugly tenhead alien did it
>playing graves>victor duo>we bought magic carpet>he artic blasts>i do my combo>insta deathi lvoe this patch
>>567925269Graves and Victor need zipline convos already, and so do Bebop and Lash
>>567925369i think itd be funnier if bebop and lash never get a conversation because theyre ignoring each other
>yamatos ugly mug isnt enough to dissuade people from picking her anymoreFUCK
>>567925210the ugly tenhead conehead ass alien also has the only currently unblackshadered underskirt
I was Ascendant 3 last week, 70% winrateThen every single fucking game, there's 1 tard that goes 0/10 with a lane partner that goes 2/8Now I'm Phantom V.What the flying fuck is this shit.
>>567924575sinclair literally changes gender when he dies
>>567919413Get both opening rounds and sharpshooter. The gun actually feels good to shoot now.
>>567924760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA686jraFzw
I love the new midboss spawn at the start of the game.> Ritualist game> Other team tries the midboss rush strat> They all buy monster rounds and try to force a 6v2 on mid> I'm McGinnis on yellow with Warden, we both run in and Warden steals the midboss kill after I wall> We get one rejuvenator and they get the other two, but lose their side lane guardians and half of each side walker in the process, plus we're ahead by over 1.5k each> Their Pocket abandons and we win
>1 velocity item now gives warden 464m/s bullet velocity>add another velocity item, ex. opr+one of the t3s for 4.8k and you get 638m/she's just so good now
>>567925890Its not the changing that appeals to trans people, it's the being a different gender
>>567925534bro your graves?
>>567925078>Yamato>overpowered"POWAAA SLA-" *ducks into cover*heh
>>567926095then why did you use surgery scars as an example
>>567926374*grapples onto you and teleports through the wall to kill you with my anime powers*
>>567926095But its two people trapped in 1 body, why do you have to bring politics into everything?
>>567926308listen, they tried to hide the graves, but I can stare directly at where the vagina would be on yamato
>>567924949need to correct...
>>567926374>*ducks into cov-ACK *gets his fat ass clipped before he can roll to safety*
>>567926384There is literally a mod that gives Victor top surgery scarshttps://gamebanana.com/mods/650140
>>567926558retardGOD
>>567926437*slow walks back around the wall**peeks out and starts teabagging*>>567926558not the half damage power slash! ACK!i might die if she hits me with that nine more times!
>>567926018Based
I hate how much damage vyper does in lane
>Graves, Yamato, TalonWho am I missing for the list of the new metaslave characters?
>>567927035>Talonthey just tried to help gun talon not be a useless sack of shit, he is absolutely not back>Gravesthey made her more solid, she is more playable with the 1 but she isn't back>Yamatoshe was already broken as fuck, but apparently only east europeans like her so good for them and the handfull of people in NA
did someone made a new thread
>5400m/s bullet velocity venatorkek what the fuck
>>567927009yeaaaa i don't fight feahdey love dis in dallas huhuhudis reminds me of cinncinnati huhuh
>wake up>massive venator buffsit is a good day
>>567926437If you go around the corner and use invis ability or item it will break the grapple line and yamato will be stuck in textures or worse, rem tunnel.
>>567927909>>567927909>>567927909
>ally Silver says I'm dogshit and should uninstall while playing Sinclair>he ends the game with the 2nd least damage done, barely 3k above the enemy PaigeI love when people pretend they're carrying or having a huge impact on the game only for the stats tab to throw them under the bus.he wasn't wrong tho, taking a month long break turned me into a glorified trooper
>>567927035>gravesThey fixed the buggy skulls, nothing changed, they still die to 1 melee and her gun is now basically nurtured especially early game. Only actual buff is that she can finally do what she was meant to do day 1, split push and summon shit>talon He was always broken with an overloaded kit but a low WR somehow, i fail to see how the buffs change anything, they feel like QoL changes imo
>>567925686Are you literally me?
this patch suckswho ever wanted a new patch needs to kill themselves
any linux players getting crashes in-game? I've gotten two so far, mostly from alt-tabbing which has never been an issue before.
>>567913625Mirage mark graphic got changed to some cool tally marks.
>>567925686Same shit happens to me, I get matched with complete retards against total sweats for like 6 matches in a row and then the game for some reason thinks that my best character is at fucking Phantom 3 level so I get into those lobbies and surprise surprise I rape everyone and now I have to do it for 4 games in a row so I can get back somewhere close to where I belong. This shit is deeply flawed and not fun for anyone involved, the whole "character skill level relative to rank" shit need to stabilize more and more around your rank the more games you have on each character so that if you go on a losing streak the game doesn't turn you into a literal smurf for losing unwinnable games due to a lane going 0/8 and 0/5 into fucking Victor and Warden.
>>567916330what if she buffed her fat ass directly onto my face
>>567928049>>567928954As a Dota 2 player, this is well known and is an anti-smurf mechanic.Whenever you do extremely good, be it in win rate or in a game where you rape everyone, the game will flag your account and then it'll force you to go 50/50.It's a dogshit system and it ends up making it so wins feel unearned and losses seem unfair.Fuck smurfers and fuck Valve.
>The year of our lord 2026>Not even devs no the difference between hitboxes and hurtboxes
>>567925890he changes into a different person doofus, he doesnt put on a dress and makeup like your deranged delusional circus view of the world lmao
>>567931037>2026>"erm its a clip not a mag!" ass niggas still dont know the difference between know and no
>>567924616he didn't need heavy nerfs they just needed to nerf the fuck out of backdooring shrines
>>567893167Been playing Kelvin for some matches now, this niggas is pretty fun
