Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9343 - Fool's Gold Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie==Comic Release Dates==DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>567883140
>>567921559Shadow's super form was more silver in the original DC version.
https://youtu.be/BAW5O-cwbt4--Naofumi Hataya
Play Bubsy 4D.
WATERFAGS LOST
>>567922082Buy an ad
What was the story of Lanolin in IDW, she's like the newest member yet acts likes she the leader and badass dril sargent, fucks up and then just goes "I suck lol, better go back home and get a job stacking paper"IDW feels so fucking aimless, stuff happens for a plot but in a childish vague way. Like having a reliable character get kicked out of team for a new guy who hasn't earned the right to be given so much trust. Maybe if they potrayed Lanolin being in over her head and a try hard it would be better because those would be defining flaws to teach the lesson hat she her self grows from.Surge alsoo becomes a hero instantly, instead of getting beaten down and rising back up a better person, where's the arc? What's the purpose.IDW is just things happen in the most boring and mushy way possible.
Haha, Sonic Fighters is such a goofy funneh game! =pSonic's blow was too much for Honey. The medic provides emergency rescuscitation but it was too late; she was pronounced dead at 14:57. Sonic was disqualified and put on tribunal for excessive force. His lawyers got him acquitted on account of the poodly-worded tournament rules stating it was no-holds-barred and didn't account for death in the ring. Honey fans around the globe are devastated and a psychotic autistic man resembling Ian Flynn torched Sonic's home. Now he is homeless. To date, Sonic has never publicly spoken of this.
>>567922184They fucked up ABT's schizolin headcanon because Ian and Evan wanted to treat the comic OCs as more experienced than half the game cast even though all of them besides Whisper are civilians or rookies that only started after Forces.
>>567922184Lanolin is a great character, I see nothing wrong
>>567922184>newest memberLanolin was not the newest member, she joined the Restoration during the Metal Virus. Lanolin's story actually was about Lanolin being a try hard who is in over her head, but you are right that Lanolin's story was mishandled and didn't do a good job of endearing her to the audience.
>toes
>>567922725>Lanolin was not the newest member, she joined the Restoration during the Metal Virus.Tangle joined during Neo metal and Wisper during the Forces War.
giving lanolin blobpaws
>>567922853Whisper didn't join in the Forces war. She was a third party ally until the Neo Metal arc.
There needs to be a remake of Sonic Adventure, but instead of Amy saving a birdie from ZERO by escaping via balloons, it's Marine saving a flicky from Mecha Sonic Mk. III by using her mysterious water powers!
>>567922353>Spoilers
>>567923289>WaterUhhh, Mysterious Mystery powers.
Lanolin has nice boobs so she's a good character, especially by IDW standards.
>>567923472
>>567922146I'm shilling Bubsy for free so I have someone to talk about it with.
>>567923570
>>567923309This is reductive. People do criticize when these characters get deceived into fighting Sonic. It's just when it happens it gets seen as the writing's fault rather than the characters.I would say there is probably a gendered element to this but then we saw this also happened with Surge. people bend over backwards woobifying her and justifying her actions as well.I think it's less about whether the character is a guy or a girl and more whether they have "action figure appeal" as I like to call it.Characters like Knuckles, Shadow Silver and Surge are all pitched as anime rival characters while Lanolin is just a civilian.It also doesn't help that all these other characters had to be humbled first whereas Lanolin comes in out of nowhere with this attitude so it comes off as her acting and speaking unreasonably above her station.
>>567922853Actually Tangle joined the Restoration at the same time as Jewel, after the Metal Virus.
>>567923309
>Hey honeyAnon said sweetly to his Wife Lanolin>Hey anon it's been a rough da- Whaat the fu->I heard you muttering about Sonic in your sleep, I never took you as a fan of the guy so I thought I'd surprise with this Sonic Curry I found. I just couldn't stop thinking about you when I saw it!Lanolin stared her eyes foggy from how husband's dumbassery, read to cry as she sat down trying to eat the horrid meal in front of her.>I-Itch rrearry grood...Lanolin said holding back the urge to split her spoon.>I knew you'd love LanLan!Anon said affectionately, be for bouncing off.Lanolin tired and ego bruised with the face of the blue mother fucker smirking on her plate, taunting her filled her with rage, yet despite it all she could help but enjoy the meal anon lovingly made for her.
>>567923991Tangle was woking directly with Sonic and friends since Neo Metal and was with them when Amy (who was leading the restoration at the time) gathered everyone to stop Neo Metal on Angel Island. She functionally joined them already.
>>567923916you're sexist chud
The Restoration is a Freedom Fighters expy, but I can't even blame the IDW staff. The entire Forces + IDW tie-in was clearly an attempt by SoJ to court the American audience with a SatAm/ Archie world after the failure of Boom.
>>567924319We're sexist chuds. Now kiss me~
"Did I pass the sidekick exam, Sonic?""...We'll call you."
>>567924319I don't even hate Lanolin and I find the hatred for her unreasonable. I'm just disagreeing it's purely down to "because she is a girl". The series does have a problem with double standards for girl characters, but chalking this one down to that is unreasonable.
>>567923309>you need you let me be a bitch or you're misogynist!maybe don't make a character who is an unpleasant bitch?
>>567924421heh.
>>567923916Lanolin was humbled in the Eggpirial City storyline though, and then humbled again with the Cleansweepstakes story.People also bend over backwards to justify Lanolin as a character, whether it's because of her design(boobs) or for whatever other reason (like giving the Duo storyline too much credit). I feel like Lanolin kinda manifests and consolidates a lot of the problems other IDW characters have where they are purpose built to be ineffectual compared to the game cast.
>>567924504Why do you hate women? I'm trans btw
Bubsy 4D is fine but I wish I was playing a good Sonic game. I hate modern platformers. Westies have always been varying degrees of sloppy since Crash. Japanese games fell off around Galaxy. I might just replay Super Mario Eclipse just to feel something.
What if Siver fucked the wool out of Lanolin
>>567924329It’s not what the fans want. It’s just pandering to westoids
>>567924091>powerlevels are bad but shipping is fine
>>567924270At that period in time Tangle and Whisper along with Sonic and most of his friends were picrel in relation to the Resistance/Restoration.Though it is funny that they made Tangle join the Restoration with Jewel and then immediately have her quit, just to have her come back off scene just to have a reason for Whisper to join.
Lanolin smothering you with her fat boobies while being 3 foot tall so you have to physically pick er up so she can smother you properly.Lanolin silently gritting her teeth and sinking her nails into you as she cums.Lanolin french kiss.Lanolin handholding(gloveless)
>>567924667I would be livid if I made a popular OC that got flanderized by those kook writers.
Guys, the penis museum has preserved the penises of Fang, Mighty, Ray, and is exhibiting them soon!
>>567925025Livin the dream
>>567923309>Let's stop and imagine if there was a male Sonic character with some of Lanolin's flaws. Someone who questioned Sonic's methods, with a no-nonsense personality that leads him to butt heads with the other heroes. Someone trying to do good in his own way, but who isn't the most affable and who can be a bit antagonistic, especially when his strong convictions are taken advantage of by a manipulative villain.He already exists. He’s called Geoffrey St John and the comic readers hated him too.
>>567924894It's just whingy therapy vulnerability slop from strivercels who washed out into Sonic. Our university system just shuffles talentless faggots in and out and these fags never live a rich life. Fucking Tolkien was coning up with LotR in the trenches in WWI but instead we get Evan and Gigis fag trauma. I know it's just Sonic but it's representative of the whole the entire industry. Nobody is living.
>>567925025
>>567925243>He already exists. He’s called Geoffrey St John and the comic readers hated him too.Oh, yeah, I remember that faggot. Did he ever die? Please tell me he died.
>>567923309>>567925243>Let's stop and imagine if there was a male Sonic character with some of Lanolin's flaws. Someone who questioned Sonic's methods, with a no-nonsense personality that leads him to butt heads with the other heroes. Someone trying to do good in his own way, but who isn't the most affable and who can be a bit antagonistic, especially when his strong convictions are taken advantage of by a manipulative villain.He already exists. He’s called Silver and the ganers hated him too.
>>567925232
>>567924667>Lanolin was humbled in the Eggpirial City storyline though,It's been a while since I went over that arc but I don't really remember her being humbled at all.I agree she was in the Cleansweepstakes story. Part of it I think is just the delay between issues and arcs. People were left with the issue of Lanolin being overly dismissive of Silver's accusations with nothing else to sit on for a while. I think there was more of a storm over that than just her not liking how Sonic does things.>I feel like Lanolin kinda manifests and consolidates a lot of the problems other IDW characters have where they are purpose built to be ineffectual compared to the game cast.Lanolin in general only really became more than a background character by accident. SEGA noticed she was showing up consistently and was like "this is a character? Well you gotta tell us her name so we can file her as an actual character now". So they had to think up what her "thing" was more concretely.For the record I don't even hate her. I think someone not being completely down with Sonic's way of doing things is fine, though it's hard to make that work since so much of the series, including most of the legacy cast, are built on Sonic being a positive influence on them and the world. This isn't even really unique to Sonic as a problem. I remember an episode of Recess where a character just doesn't like TJ and the lesson of the episode is to just accept some people just wont like you and you shouldn't feel obsessed with needing them to like you. When I got online I found out that this episode is hated and the character is hated.
>>567925287IDW is better off getting cancelled. It became deadweight after Ian snd Evan tried to make Tangle and Whisper into lesbians for brownie points
>>567925243Wasn't Ian able to salvage Geoffrey though by making him a tragic villain with gray morality?I don't think that will be possible with Lanolin.
>I call this.. Super Maria... THREE.>Shado~ I promise you... REVENGE!
>>56792500312 issues after this Blaze swears by the way of Restoration.
>>567925287Can someone explain how Gigi can draw and still draw like shit at the same time? Her old work was better.
Super Mario 64 and Sonic Adventure 2 are the only good 3D platformers.
Tails! :D
>>567925849Banjo Kazooie is pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhyPhQkw2Gw
>>567909362Iirc it's in the phone version and the phone it shows depends on the phone you're playing it on, meanwhile the console/PC versions didn't have it in the first placeThere's a browser port of the Windows Phone version where you can see it>>567925849They're both amazing and among the best for sure, but I wouldn't say the only good ones
>>567925723The HRT and SSRIs fried her brain
>>567925723I'm sorry but Gigi's art was never good. That cover looks mediocre.That being said, there's a theory the particularly bad rush-job in one of the Soleil/Lunar issues was because Krack drama mindbroke her so bad she needed therapy
>>567925658What does Blaze care about the fucking Restoration for? She hasn't done shit with them besides charity bullshit in not-Africa.
>>567925951Never played it. Might as well try it now.Reminds me DK64 is pretty good too.
Sonic's green wife.
<3>>567926206Fun lolToo many Creams!
>>567926206>KitCream>TailrineTrust
BLACK ARMS AUShadow kills Black Doom and fuses his cells with Maria to revive her.
>>567925849Fuck you I like Sunshine
Boy
>>567926591Play Super Mario Sunshine Eclipse
>>567925467>I don't really remember her being humbled at all.She had a moment where she doubts herself and has to get a peptalk after she acknowledged she bossy, and then she gets put into a pokeball. I guess its minor compared to Cleansweepstake's dress down but it's still there.>someone not being completely down with Sonic's way of doing things is fineI feel like characters not vibing with Sonic's way of doing things is kinda like the foundation of Modern Sonic storytelling since SA1(really S3, but it wasn't as thematicly prominent in that game). All he's dark age rivals are made like this dynamic in mind and many of his theme songs are also about this too. https://youtu.be/ruyVFY0OUzcThe thing is though that eventually they get won over in the end, though not always positively.But that's not what comicLanolin is though, that's what Surge is. Lanolin's just a ridged rule follower, but she's also more or less complete trusts all the game cast because she sees them as her superiors in the Restoration ranks. ABT's Lanolin is really compelling, but it's also not what she is in the comics, unfortunately, I feel its kinda diluted peoples perception of the character
>>567925849I don't think you've played many 3D platformers.
^-^
Fans need to admit that the cast is incompetent when Sonic is not around.
>>567927165What about Shadow?
>>567925658Still not affiliated; also this is the storyline that is trying to make the Restoration less of an organization and more of an idea, an ideal even. The Restoration isn't some dumb old building, it's the people!
>>567927165Wrong, Eggman is only competent when Sonic isn't around
>>567927216Shadow is the opposite. He is incompetent when Sonic IS around, because Sonic is the main character and he has to look super cool. It's also the only reason Amy exists. To make Sonic look cool.
This is now a corpo generaru.Arru hairu Sega.Arru hairu za brando.
>>567927216What about Shadow?
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144718268Never feel like you have enough, always feels too little.
>>567927278The Restoration? More like the Retardation!
>>567927508
>>567927369I’m surprised Iizuka has a Sonic plush next to him and not a Shadow one. He only cares about Shadow and lets the other characters get corrupted by Ian Flynn’s slop
>>567927793>he only cares about-Shadow literally gets raped by zombies in the comics because Ian hates Shadope. I don't think he gives a fuck.
>>567926940Reccomend to me 3D platformers to play.
>>567928080Why couldn't Ian just have Shadow part of the plot and and subduing the virus via speed like Sonic instead of having him stupidly job? Dude really hates Shadow THAT much?
>>567928080The IDW comics weren’t being treated as canon back then so of course Iizuka would let it slide. This franchise has the worst quality control and consistency record, I swear
>>567928264Yes. Did you see him go out of his way to get another character thoroughly raped? Dude literally put Shadow through a gangbang humiliation ritual.
>>567921559Sonic characters for this?
>>567928264Because while that is seemingly better, he would still do the same thing which is to keep Shadow out of the plot
What does the Restoration restores? The Status Quo?
>>567921559>picCool theory
Iizuka needs to retire
>>567928515Milk reserves.
>>567928349Anon this is all contradicting the idea that he gives a shit about Shadow. He's an old man. He doesn't give a shit. Shadow exists for the same reason every Sonic character exists. To make Sonic look cool.
>>567928264Because Kyle wanted to shit on him
>>567926843>She had a moment where she doubts herself and has to get a peptalk after she acknowledged she bossy, and then she gets put into a pokeball. I guess its minor compared to Cleansweepstake's dress down but it's still there.I don't really see it desu.>All he's dark age rivals are made like this dynamic in mind and many of his theme songs are also about this too.>The thing is though that eventually they get won over in the end, though not always positively.Yeah, usually the point is that they are either wrong, or they come around to respecting him and admitting he is cool even if they don't always agree with him. Whatsmore is usually when they oppose him, it's incidental or because some actual villain set them up to fight him for reasons that aren't really personal.>ABT's Lanolin is really compelling, but it's also not what she is in the comics, unfortunately, I feel its kinda diluted peoples perception of the characterWhat's "ABT Lanolin" exactly?
>>567928515Yes actually. Now all the nerds can be satisfied>hey, eggman destroyed this city in such and such adventure against sonic. why is it back and undamaged >why it's because it's been restored by the help of the restoration dear fan
>>567928828Considering Ian does what he wants, it's obvious he shares his feelings.
>>567926428Gos imagine the fucjing sex
>>567928884So the Restoration exists because Sonic never kills Eggman? Is there really anything even a strong human can do if Sonic charges at him at mock speed?
>>567928634Ian and Evan have both complained about Shadow having excessive mandates. Back during Sonic Universe they sent notes that Shadow is an excellent swimmer while allowing bigger details for other characters to go by un-noted.
Krack wonned
>>567929107Literally none of this has anything to do with Shadow getting gang raped. Face it anon, Ian and his buddies loathe Shadow as a character. And that's fine, but pretending it's not true is ridiculous. No amount of mandates says "X character needs to get raped."
>>567927165I wouldn't say incompetent, but people do need to accept that they aren't his equals and aren't supposed to be.People want to lower Sonic down to earth instead of just letting him be and it always comes off as petty.>>567927216Shadow is tricky because the point of him was to be 'cooler than Sonic" so that Sonic can prove how cool he truly is by fighting and beating him.But it's a delicate balance because Shadow's fans like him because they see him as just cooler than Sonic so when Sonic beats him, they get a chip on their shoulder.
>>567928084Banjo, spyro. Pseudoregalia and corn kidz 64 if you want something 'new'.
>>567924667Duo fucked Lanolin
>>567928612
>>567929107They probably complained because they wanted to rape Shadow even harder, and the mandates didn't let them.>>567929226The point of Shadow is to be similar to Sonic but you feel sorry for him. Sonic exists to show that there's a better way because he is superior in every single way. That is literally how he's written. Shadow is the closest of the main cast to Sonic, but he's still just a shadow of the main character who exists to make him look cool.
>>567929254>Psuedoregaliawaterfag propgandathanks for the reccs I'm gonna play Banjo
>>567929107>Back during Sonic Universe they sent notes that Shadow is an excellent swimmer while allowing bigger details for other characters to go by un-noted.No wonder Amy’s character suffers so much when written by Ian. Iizuka doesn’t bother to give Ian strict notes on her so he just gets away with lobotomizing her
Knuckles stages without the lyrics are very chill background music:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BE3hqPLwaw
>>567928867>What's "ABT Lanolin" exactly?A schizophrenic that's barely holding it together.
>>567929538lol.Banjo kazooie isn't too long. Tooie is kind of divisive, just as a heads up if you decide to try it after.
Ian has a chip on his shoulder over Shadow being more popular than his pet character Knuckles and even in Archie he would have them fight each other in order to try and elevate Knuckles over him. He also regularly tries to write out Shadow's powers to nerf him.Evan just has the fangirl issue of trying to soften Shadow too much. Shadow was made to be Sonic's dark anime rival. But his fangirls wanna focus him entirely on being sad hot topic boy who loves a dead girl.
>>567923309>>567924091This person has been thoroughly, decisively, without a shadow of a doubt, worked into a seething, bubbling, frothing shoot. Just as mad, just as angry, just as worked up as the people hating on Lanolin.IMO that shit was right on the edge of becoming entertaining and I'm bummed that they shelved her. I say that as an irredeemable soapie/drama/Archiefag though.
>>567929797Both are correct. Shadow IS Sonic's dark anime rival who loves a dead girl. Shadow is a failed Sonic. The girl who loves him is dead.
>>567928867>What's "ABT Lanolin" exactly?An entirely different character who hallucinates a happier double of herself and hates Sonic for being a supe. I think those little side-comics might just be a creative exercise for ABT's own entertainment, though.
remember at the end of sa2 where shadow says sonic is the true ultimate lifeform, then he just goes back to calling himself that even after he regains his memories
>>567929921>Both are correct.Yes but his fangirls wanna erase the former. but if you do that, Shadow becomes a neutered character. It's like people that want Silver to just live in Sonic's time period and metal to go off on his own.People say this because it superficially sounds like "progress" for the character but it isn't actually something they think through in regards to how that works out going forward.Shadow being Sonic's anime rival is the thing that keeps him dynamic and involved. Without it, he is just a tumor on the series doing donuts over and over.
>>567930191Personally I wish Sonic Team treated Shadow as well as Capcom treated Zero. Then again, they treated Zero too well, to X's detriment.
>>567928084aeromachina, there's a full demo available on steam right now, it's really fun
>>567930136Considering Sonic will age and doesn't have alien dna he can hardly be called the ultimate lifeform.
>>567930318>Then again, they treated Zero too well, to X's detriment.I was about to say, lol.I know Inafune made him first and apparently wanted him to be protag but Jesus Christ.This is ultimately what a lot of Shadowfags want even though they don't admit it.In fact its what a lot of characterfags want, even though they don't admit it. It's why so many try to overemphasize Sonic parallels to signal how deserving of shilling their chosen character is.Some do it less than others but all of em do it to different degrees.
>>567928084Jumping FlashBug!Bug Too!New Super Lucky's Tale
>>567930445>Sonic will ageBut he won't.>doesn't have alien DNAwhat does this have to do with anything?
Sonic is immortal, for every time you jerk off to Sonic, he gains years to his life depending on the amount of sperm you shot out.
>>567930445Sonic and Shadow are canonically identical
>>567930671Jumping flash is cool "woah 3d graphics!" tech demo way, but thats most of it's appeal.
>>567921559>the governmentWhat?
>>567931034>>567930445The words for "invulnerable" (cannot be harmed) and "immortal" (cannot die) overlap significantly in Japanese. They are often interchangeable when used to describe mythical characters or superheroes.The idea is supposed to be that [Super] Sonic is Fujimi (不死身) and Shadow was being made to make the ULF which is Super Sonic.Ultimate Lifeform is the being who is the ultimate well, life form and Sonic represents the series' view on how to life the vest life.
>>567931372Yeah but that's dumb Sonic should be vulnerable, cry and job.
>>567927354>It's also the only reason Amy exists. To make Sonic look cool.Ironic how she's still less dependent on sonic than tails and knuckles are
>>567930612>In fact its what a lot of characterfags want, even though they don't admit itAll I want is for every character to get 1 (ONE) spinoff where they go an entire game without Sonic
>Checks japan sonic>It's full of fujoshis
>>567931612And then when it flops, you will complain that SEGA didn't put as much effort into it as the character "deserves" like how Tails and Knuckles fans do.
I just think every character should get a shining moment, even if Sonic has to take the final blow, I know how it works since he's the main character, but that doesn't mean they can't make the cast look and Sonic cooler by extension.Or be funny, like Big The Cat.
>>567931823If it flops, I won't care. If it's good, then I'll be happy
>>567931794That's also Western Sonic.
>checks american sonic>it’s full of hope
>>567929797>Ian has a chip on his shoulder over Shadow being more popular than his pet character Knuckles and even in Archie he would have them fight each other in order to try and elevate Knuckles over him. He also regularly tries to write out Shadow's powers to nerf him.The answer is to do more with knuckles and give him a decent reason to get off that fuckass island without needing sonic around. Ian should be focusing his hatred towards ken penders instead.
>>567931794Where do you think the term "Fujo" came from?
>>567931903>Tails Adventure>Knuckles Chaotix>not good.
>>567931917Supergirl panties!
I think Sonic Needs a Morshu in the cast. A character that can really challenge Sonic and who he is. Without a Morshu, Sonic will never be the peak it strives for.
>>567932073What the fuck is a morshu?
>>567932013After seeing that doc, and videos I can safely say these animals suffer from severe autism and they scuttle around like dumbass, I saw one runnin around like crazy hunched low then randomly rubs it's ass across hte floor then repeating. Dumb idiot creature.
Douge
>>567932143CDI Zelda reference
>>567932073Black Knight is as close as you'll ever get and we all know how that goes down
>>567932143Time ticks away and each one ages me to my grave, one day the glory of the past will be lost in this unforgiving passage of time. I am soon but a relic in the sands of the forgotten.
>>567932143Anon.Please be kidding.
>>567932217Lovely creatures, aren't they?
>>567932524Perhaps.
>>567931917希望
>>567932073Could Cream and Charmy solve I.M. Meen's Labyrinth?https://youtu.be/Bf6SaoHN1zI
>>567930612There's nothing wrong with wanting a character to be as cool as Zero. I just fucking hate how he constantly overshadowed (lol) X. X literally had unlimited potential and they just sort of...forgot about it.
>>567931887That's what the franchise should be but it feels as though it's doing the opposite of that: Making Sonic cool while everyone else becomes a cheerleader who can't do much more than stressfully pray that Sonic the football player can complete the game winning play
>>567933315Zero is what Shadowfags wish Shadow could be.
>>567933425A badass? A cool character in his own right? Yes anon, I'm aware
>>567933425I want Shadow to be the Batman to Sonic's Superman, but with less batwank when they're together
>>567931917>it's full of tranniggers
>>567933315>I just fucking hate how he constantly overshadowed (lol) X. And if they didn't, you'd complain instead that Zero "fell off" and they "didn't use him enough" and he "had so much potential"
>>567933741Anon please don't put words in my mouth. I liked both characters and wanted both of them to be cool. I like X more as a character, but Zero more for his gameplay.
>>567928991Black Maria sends pleasure signals to her spawns and minions through tentacles
>>567933997...and how do you do that? The reason Zero is seen as so cool is because of how shilled and favored he is compared to X.
>>567934053pic related
>>567934106By giving them both cool moments. Why are you overcomplicating it? It's like you live in a world in which there are no solutions. Only more problems.
>>567933604>batwankhttps://youtu.be/PXgJih6DFmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv6J2HeRimUNight
>>567931574amyfags bitched and moaned about her being left out of team sonic, until they realized it's fucking lame and she was literally better off on her own team
>>567934236>By giving them both cool moments.But X does have cool moments.>It's like you live in a world in which there are no solutions. Only more problems.Because people never actually provide solutions. They just spout low resolution statements that can be boiled down top "just do it but le good" with no consideration for how or why things end up the way they do or why the writers or devs choose to do the things they do.So give an actual example of how that could be done.
>>567931574That's because Tails is the lamest fucking character on the planet. At least Knuckles can punch shit and has funny memes. Tails is just a shitty, cowardly tranny magnet.
>>567934570Anon, they were literally going to make X the villain in MMZ until the last minute. At this point I know you're just fucking with me. At the minimum don't fucking zombie rape Shadow. God damn anon.
What do you think, Omega?
>>567931917>checks american comic>it’s full of globalist propaganda
>>567934464>Making things up
I heard tell that Banjo Kazooie was just an iteration on DK64 with less interesting stages and yeah I can see itEvery dev lost their sauce. A shame only Gen X seems to ever "had it" and they burned themselves out after the experimental burst of the 2000s.
>>567934696>Anon, they were literally going to make X the villain in MMZ until the last minuteSo what? That does nothing for X himself. Copy X is essentially that anyway. And frankly that whole thing only proves my point because they were essentially planning to assassinate X's character to make him the bad guy to make Zero look that much cooler.>At the minimum don't fucking zombie rape Shadow. God damn anon.Wahhh Shadow shouldn't be allowed to loose Bawwwww!!!For the record I actually agree that scene sucked. I never said it didn't, but most Shadowfags are mad about it because Shadow doesn't get to be the hero of the story.It's like when they bitched about him not doing so in Forces.
>>567934965Sonic the Hedgehog?
>>567935091Oh, I hate him so!
>>567935091I forgot to mention Sonic Team was full up washed up bums
>>567935054I'm saying he shouldn't be written into essentially jumping into a wood chipper and hoping for the best. I'd be fine if he lost in a non-retarded way.
>>567923309People literally call Silver out for this all the time??? Especially Archie Silver. What is this person talking about???
>>567934819EGGMAN FUCK NIG
hmmmm
>>567935245And I agree with that. But let's be real. That isn't even why most of his fans complained. Shadow's fans have a hard time accepting him in any role that isn't essentially the main character or the center of attention where he gets to be "him" and the big damn hero.
>>567932073Morshu is LITERALLY in unleashed you dumb fuck.
>>567935236I mean, SEGA in general seems to be having that issue.But that's just the decades of anger inside me talking.
>>567935504To be fair it's kind of hard to go back to Shadow being a shittier Sonic after 06. At this point Shadow is never going to be that cool ever again. I can hardly blame anyone for not wanting him to be in a story Sonic is in, since the second Sonic is involved he becomes a fucking useless irrational retard.
>>567935635SEGA has ALWAYS been poorly managed. The fact they got Sonic 1-3 and both Adventure games out before fizzling is nothing short of a miracle.
>>567935679>since the second Sonic is involved he becomes a fucking useless irrational retard.When?
>>567935635>assrape sonic at almost every step>vaporize half your IPs, send another 25% to gacha hell forever>sakura wars, no I'm not going to forgive them for curbstomping that seriesSEGA is a special company I swear to god. They could fuck up a dozen golden geese a million times and nobody could ever get tired of them.
>>567935849We were literally just talking about him getting raped by zombots, and recently Shadow tard attacked Sonic only to lose an emerald because Sonic is super smart and clever, unlike Shadow who tard rages when he sees blue.
CHAOS?!
>>567936067Kill Chaos
>>567935914>We were literally just talking about him getting raped by zombotsThat has nothing to do with Sonic though.>and recently Shadow tard attacked Sonic only to lose an emerald because Sonic is super smart and clever, unlike Shadow who tard rages when he sees blue.That has more to do with Shadow in general being the kind of guy who disposes of threats. he isn't the kind of guy that's gonna have therapyspeak sessions with someone and never has been. and yet people keep trying to put him into stories where that is what they wanna do for some reason.
>>567935354You were supposed to s-nvm
>>567936220He is supposed to be intelligent is what I'm saying, but he's not. He's basically edgier Knuckles. Pic related. Shadow acting in character according to Ian.
>>567936170
>>567936354Is he supposed to be intelligent? The project was supposed to just create an immortal being that they could harvest DNA from. Like Gerald also wanted said project to be sentient, but I'm not sure there's anything in the games or other canon media that says Shadow is supposed to be particularly smart. I'd imagine he has an IQ of like 110-120 instead of one that's like 130-150.
>>567937247ok apparently Sonic 06 says he has 200 IQ in an optional mission so never fucking mind I guess????
>>567936354What are you realistically meant to do with Shadow as a character though? His thing is he doesn't ask questions and goes for the throat when defeating his enemies and works towards his goals without compromise.What do you do with him storywise besides just having him fight things and fall?
>>567937247>tfw Shadow has my iqHe's literally me.>become's a zombot>>567937361It would be kind of hard to be the ultimate lifeform if your intellect was mid. Then again, getting a guy with a mid intellect to write Shadow was never going to work anyway.
>>567937395Have him help Sonic when it serves his purposes and oppose him when it doesn't. Basically what they're doing now, but don't make Shadow a literal glue eating, drooling dumbass. Same for Rouge. She isn't dumb either. Just write them like they actually thought for a second about their actions, and when they fail write them failing in a way that makes sense. IE not jumping into a woodchipper and claiming "I am the ultimate wood chipper resistant entity!"
>>567937579Come up with an example story.
>>567937684Shit anon, you want me to sit here and write an essay? Hell I'll just use the zombots. Have Shadow receive intelligence saying he should be immune to the zombots before tard charging them, then when he gets infected he doesn't know he can run off the infection. There, he lost and it's not retarded now. If he was told to run to run off the infection and simply didn't, then he's a moron.
>>567937973Amy is having the time of her life.
>>567937801Sonic: Hey Shads! guess what number I'm thinking of.Shadow: Hmmph. There no time for games.Sonic: What's the matter, can't the Ultimate Lifeform win a simple game?Shadow: Hmmph. Very well Blue Hedgehog. I'll play your game. Is it 7?Sonic: Nope!Shadow: Damn. Maria...
>>567937801Him thinking he couldn't be infected was in the comic.>There, he lost and it's not retarded now. If he was told to run to run off the infection and simply didn't, then he's a moron.But now you have people saying "why didn't they tell him he could run it off? Why didn't he try?" etc.
>>567938107KEK
>>567938107meant for >>567937801fuck
>>567938118Omega told him he could probably do it since he just wanted to see those robots dead. and if he fails? Well Shadow was already a creation of Gerald's and now that he'd be a robot because of Eggman. That's good enough for him.
Super Sonic Horny
>>567923309>MisogynySHUT UP JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
>>567938118Sonic literally told Shadow he could run it off though.
>>567925535Honestly yeah. I love Ian's take on the character. Sadly Archie Sonic rebooted like 10 issues later lol.
>>567938382cowards run
I have not read the IDW comics yet.In three words, can you describe everything I should know before I dare to even read it?
>>567938107>tfw no Maria
>>567937801So basically you're saying the way they write him now is perfectly fine, they just need to keep from writing him as a total mouth breathing retard and he'll be fine.
>>567938487It's so bad.
>>567938382Yes and Shadow says "Cowards run, I win!" A line no one would complain about if Shadow won against the zombots.
>>567938487Better than Archie.
>>567938487Safe Status Quo
>>567938487Yeah. You should know not to read it. The only good things to come out of it are sheep tits and Surge. And not because they're good characters, but because they get good fanart.>>567938518Exactly. Unfortunately, he's being written by a literal mouth breathing retard.>>567938582Why the fuck would anyone complain about a plan that worked? Are you retarded? Ian is that you?
>>567937973who the HELL is that all the way on the left she was not invited
>>567938582Yes. If Shadow threw himself into a woodchipper and it exploded from the inside because of how awesome and ultimate he is, they would be happy
>>567938594Its not
>>567938651>Why the fuck would anyone complain about a plan that worked? Are you retarded? Ian is that you?My point is people started meme-ing about how he was "being written like Vegeta" because he jobs right after.
>>567937973Eww a bug
>>567938487Just read Archie Sonic Comic, preboot or reboot. It's worth your time
>>567938594Archie had soul and did funky shit that no one would expect. IDW has no soul, tons of mandates, and writes everyone ooc but without any of the cool shit that could come out of it. Instead everyone is just vaguely off and uninteresting.
>>567938487Fat. Sheep. Titties.
>>567938487Gay fag shit
>>567938369Tailsbros, why are we so misogynistic?
Hope
>>567938943not today.rope
>>567938651>>567938873>sheep tits>fat sheep titsYou guys aren't exaggerating, are you? Don't give me hope here.
>>567938487Corporate Archie Sonic
>>567938885Quite literally. It’s just what happens when you turn Sonic into Steven Universe
>>567938487Read Archie for amazing stories and Sally Acorn. IDW is for sexy OCs masturbating session>>567938651This so much this
>>567937247Ok this post is triggering me. I need to jump into your conversation. Shadow is described in bios as "extremely intelligent" and "sharp-witted." He aced all of his tests on the ARK despite not doing any of the homework. In '06, there's an NPC that's head of G.U.N.'s decryption unit. She's looking for intelligent people to hire, but suggests he's more suited for physical work than mental work. Shadow apparently wanted to prove her wrong. Afterwards, she says his IQ is about 200 and begs him to join her team. Another NPC in the game says he has a very impressive brain and that he should take good care of it (he doesn't). Not only that, but he was created and "raised" by the smartest character in the entire franchise. Even one of the developers said Gerald > Eggman. Pre-programmed knowledge was embedded into him. He has his own motorcycle license and has shown to be great at using whatever around him to his advantage. Taking 200 seriously, that's about a 1 in 1,000,000,000 IQ score. Shadow is literally a genius and does nothing with it but fight, he doesn't even have a job. If you're portraying Shadow as an angry retard, you're doing something wrong, objectively.
>>567938921
>>567938943
>>567939091No but it's still not worth reading IDW for them.
>>567939137R00D
>>567939127Most of that stuff is just wank though. Shadow isn't portrayed and has never been portrayed as a super genius. His response to a computer not working is to karate-chop it.
>>567938487complete fucking garbage
>>567938921You're not?
>>567939339He's intelligent, but impatient and computer illiterate.
>>567939361All Sonic media have some value, including IDW
>>567939419I can think of exactly two things I like about idw, and both of them are Lanolin's tits.
>>567939339>His response to a computer not working is to karate-chop it....And it worked.
>>567939392I didnt confirm or deny that.
>>567939602Sasuga Shadow-san. It was the hiya that did it.
Stop defending Shitdow, he's a bad character.
>>567939393Despite the fact I'm inclined to think of Shadow as a more intelligent person than Sonic, Sonic has shown more things to suggest he is smart such as actually reading books and having surprising insight on life.I guess you can call Sonic more wise than academically well read.I have trouble accepting Shadow as more intelligent than even Rouge, so this "he's totally 200 IQ guys" stuff is hard to sell to me.Shadow's not a nimbrod but he isn't some savant either.He'd a lot of "information" on things but he i wouldn't call him a genius.
I love sheep tits.
>>567938487Ian's Crying Lesbians.
>>567939681This but unironically
>>567938487Fuck The Sheep (sexually)
>>567938487Not about Sonic.
>>567939681Nah, he's miles better than most of the others that came later
Knuckles is more native american and hispanic than he is black.Shadow is the only real black character in the cast. He's literally created black creatures.
>>567939160Is Shadow racist? It seems like every human he sees reminds him of Maria.
Which characters are inside?
>>567940058The Shadow Androids
>>567939715Dude, Shadow manipulated Eggman flawlessly upon debut and has a relatively impressive vocabulary compared to the main cast. He is very intelligent. He just uses it for battle, or at least he's supposed to. It gives him a very dangerous and unpredictable vibe. He isn't Knuckles. Stop making him Knuckles.
>>567940018>created from black creatures*Guess I cant read.
>>567939715Sonic is definitely wise, and you need to keep in mind that he's supposed to be the light in the story. Him showing up other characters is not only expected, but inevitable. But you have a point. Shadow being ignorant isn't entirely unwarranted. He is emotionally stunted, suffers from ptsd, and has been alive for a very short time. He is the failed Sonic after all. However, he was clearly intelligent and put together in 06. But that's no good it seems. Shadow needs to be angry Vegeta/Batman.
>>567940058the girl herself
>>567940038No he's attracted to blonde human women because he is Mariasexual
My headcanon is that Sonic is a lot more intelligent and learned than he lets on and only his close friends pick up on it.Yes I am well aware of the fact that Sonic nowadays is near DBSuper Goku levels of dumb. It's dumb.
>>567940145>However, he was clearly intelligent and put together in 06. But that's no good it seems. Shadow needs to be angry Vegeta/Batman.This is purely the west's fault btw. The Japs understand Shadow is smart. Westerners are media illiterate, they literally watch him manipulate Eggman into doing his bidding and then conclude Shadow is retarded and can't plan anything. The west makes him into Knuckles and a diet Bejita with grunting yelling tardrage. The japs know he is quiet, smart, dangerous, and delicate.
NiGHTS forced me to dualize with xer last night and I'm scared to sleep now
>>567940116>Shadow manipulated Eggman flawlesslyHe didn't do anything particularly smart. Eggman came looking for a weapon to take over the world and Shadow gave him one. Doing so was also Gerald's plan, not his. >He isn't Knuckles. Stop making him Knuckles.Accusing me of doing something I'm not.
>>567940058Packed full of Sallys.
>>567940487>He didn't do anything particularly smart. He just successfully emotionally manipulated the smartest character in the cast until it was too late to back outIf Shadow hadn't changed his mind, the ARK would have crashed. Shadow got further than almost any other villain to destroying the planet. And he did it through wit, not just raw power.
>>567940192Didn't he do it with Chris too? Or was it that blonde girl in a wheel chair? It's been a looooooooong time.
>>567940706Yes and this is proof shadow would go gay if maria were reincarnated as a male
>>567940407Can this be blamed on Ian too?
The Ark crash event entirely plays on Eggman being retarded and trusting Shadow 100% instead of checking for any specific lock-outs that can occur once all the emeralds are placed.
>>567940407You keep clutching your pearls over him "manipulating Eggman" but he doesn't really do anything to manipulate him. He just shows him the Eclipse cannon and tells him if he gets all the emeralds he can threaten the world with it. After that, Shadow is the one following orders the whole game.Then at the end, we learn it was all gerald's plan, not Shadow's. Shadow was just following Gerald's orders and plans.That's kind of a problem with Shadow's character being that he doesn't really have any agency.
>>567940407>Japanese says he sees what he's doing but will go along with it>American:FUCK YOU! I AM THE ULTIMATE LIFEFORM! YOU ARE SHIT SONIC!>loses
>>567940692Shadow didn't do anything witty. he just did what he was told to do whether that was Gerald, Eggman or Maria.
Shadow is smart. Very smart. He just doesn't apply it to machines or science. He does, or did, apply it to battle. His quick thinking makes him an extremely dangerous opponent. It's not just the power alone, it's the wit and the will behind it too. This is where Westoid retards fail. Well, they fail everywhere, but especially here. Look at people ITT arguing that Shadow isn't that smart. You know how I can tell you exposed yourself to too much noncanon Westshit? It's that. You need to be quarantined and detoxified before your cancer spreads any further.
Fuck off Krack
>>567939649Because Tails must be protected from the Great Evil(women) at all cost!
>>567940945He achieved it alone dude. Him following what someone else wanted doesn't make the feat any less impressive.If a character beats another character in a canon fight, you acknowledge that character is a capable fighter. But if a character beats another character mentally, suddenly you start coping and saying it means nothing. Shadow is described as extremely intelligent word for word, in a 2001 bio.
IDW Shadow: Thinks he's HIM.Game Shadow: Is HIM.
>>567941185Thanks Ian.
Amy miscarriage
>>567941121All nu-Westfags want is for their already simplistic children's media to be dumbed down even further for them. Drooling clapping nonverbal helmet-wearing sped retard.
>>567939602You just know the comics would just have him make everything worse if he did that and the OCs would have to take over.
Preach, Krack
>>567941170>He achieved it alone dude.Except he didn't. He needed Eggman and Rouge to do it. They could have wrote it that he went to get the emeralds himself and put them on the Eclipse canon himself but they didn't.>Him following what someone else wanted doesn't make the feat any less impressive.What feat? He didn't deceive anyone. he didn't negotiate Eggman into anything. He pops out like a genie in a bottle, tells eggman to come to his house for tea and then points to the cannon and then just does what Eggman says for the rest of the game.The game doesn't frame this as Shadow being a master manipulator. The focus is on Shadow doing it because he is grieving and in pain and following though on Gerald's plan because of this.
>>567941335She'd have to get laid first.
okay but how did Shadow get to the ARK
>>567941463Chaos Control, illi
Chaos Control makes you infertile
Sonic X girls vs boys lost episode
>>567941545Now Amy can have as much unprotected sex with Sonic, Sonic and Sonic as she wants!
>>567940058Sallyies>>567940670This nigga knows ball
>>567941405He used Eggman and Rouge like he would any other physical weapon. It worked. >The game doesn't frame this as Shadow being a master manipulator. ...?
>>567921559PLEASE EGGMAN I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK! YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR HOT SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT IN FRONT OF AMY!!
white people are more autistic than Japanese people for even questioning two worlds in the first place
>>567941924Someone beign tricked =/= The game portraying the character as a master manipulator.Chaos betrays Eggman and takes the emeralds for himself as well.
Shadow is a djinn and can grant wishes.
Amy's afterbirth smoothie
>>567921559>Silver's super form is the same color as Shadow's>Silver is either also an artificial lifeform, or a direct descendant
>>567941924not all tricks are equalnot that shadow didn't perform his act well, but its not like he misled people into optimal positions constantly for him to further his plan.and rouge even knows there's bullshit with shadow afoot, she just plays along until when she confronts shadow on who he really might be.
>>567941335...would only happen if she tried to species mix and or because of Shadow's messed up DNA.
Was Shadow 05 some kinda meta narrative on Sonic Team's inability to decide on Shadow's direction?
>>567921559Isn't real gold in nature reddish yellow? Gold bars are processed gold.
>>567942157Amy X Shadow is COMPLETELY ooc. Amy would sooner fuck a blue dildo. In fact she probably does.
>>567942206The characters overall are ideas that aren't meant to be developed. Look at Tails basically being reset from Adventure 2 as an example. It happened but was then course corrected.Shadow is all about confronting his demons, both literal and metaphorical; so most of Shadow 05 is hogwash that can be ignored until he fights and kills Black Doom. That helps reinforce the idea.
>>567942519I wouldn't call it hogwash. Each one is exploring a very valid and real aspect of his character.But that's what they are. Aspects.>Look at Tails basically being reset from Adventure 2 as an example. It happened but was then course corrected.It's funny. people complain about his gameplay in that game but him being on foot in anything after has the same people say he "regressed" as a character.
>>567942026Shadow is factually intelligent dude. Canonically. That is the intent behind the character, and it has only been fulled by character assassination in the West. Boom Shadow and IDW Shadow are completely retarded because Westerners think you need to say a bunch of nerdy technobabble in order to be smart. I don't know why you want him to be retarded so badly.
>>567942737Krack, go to bed. No one said Shadow is a retard. Go be a schizo on your discord or something.
>>567942519Okay but "is Shadow the real Shadow" and "does it matter that Shadow is the real Shadow" was developed and given a definitive answer which I find strange because no other character got that treatment. The neutral route doesn't even address black doom IIRC.
>>567942813Anon what are you talking about? In this very thread people questioned his intelligence, and rightfully so. Because Ian can't write intelligent characters.
Sharp-wittedadjectiveˈshärp-ˈwi-təd Definition of sharp-witted: having or showing a practical cleverness or judgment.Synonyms: smart, astute, shrewd, sharp,savvy, intelligent, wise, brilliant, clever.
>>567942898In this topic, people question your insistence that we are meant to see him as a super genius or that he has ever been presented as such.Go play stupid somewhere else.
hey, does anyone else think amy's pupils on her model are a bit too big and separated from each other?
>>567942972Why are you acting so offended anon? I spoke factually. And here you are, Ianning all over me.
>>567943049I am not "offended". I am annoyed. Because you are using me as a prop for your persecution complex over your pet character.
>>567942813That's what you're saying though. Pretending Shadow is of average intelligence when he is consistently shown and stated to be very intelligent. Your thought processes regarding this subject are exactly why people like Ian exist. Shadow is stated to be very intelligent multiple times in canon sources. Therefore, Shadow is very intelligent.
Shadow is smart, end of story
>>567943210>That's what you're saying thoughsaying you're up-playing something mundane to shill the character unnecessarily=/= saying shadow is an idiot.
>>567943121You're talking to two different people. More than one person thinks you're being obtuse. Is this some kind of characterfag dickmeasuring thing? Like you don't want it to be true because it would mean Shadow's brain is as powerful as the rest of him.Really stupid how people want the characters to be either average intelligence or hyper-smart geniuses with a 300IQ (literally impossible). 200 is a good middle ground if we're gonna take the 300 number seriously desu.
Hilarious
Shadow is retarded
>>567938594As someone who was there at the beginning of Archie, this is an exceptionally low bar.
>>567943507>In the middle of beating the shit out of someone>the word "friend" defeats him and causes him to FLEE
>>567942430She definitely has a few. One is werehog-sized.
I rest my case on Shadowfags, ladies and gentlemen
>>567942986They look fine to me
Death of the Author is what decides how Sonic characters are perceived.
>>567943121Nah, you're offended.
>>567943507Still better than idw.
People commonly forget that Eggman Nega is smarter than Eggman.
Sonic was supposed to have a fat ass
>>567944547I wouldn't say smarter, just less willing to fuck around. Eggman loves his theatrics too much.
>>567944547that fucking nega ain't worth shit
>>567939734is she leaning over or are you supposed to be looking down at her?
In the words of our beloved Hedgehog:SAYONARA NIG[redacted]
>>567944803...That's a good question. I'd have said leaning over, but then she'd probably be spilling her coffee. Except that the cup has a shadow that doesn't make sense if you're looking down and she's holding it upright.
>>567944803The ai fucked up again
>>567944547>>567944664We don't say that word here
>>567945081Nega, please.
>>567945081Shut up Nega.
>>567945081Post mustache color right now.
>>567944648Eggman couldn't get time travel right even with the help of a primordial entity that erases spacetime, he needed the help of another Eggman and even then the final product is incapable of time travelling without destroying time and space.Eggman Nega mastered time travel with no help in his first game, while he was tricking Eggman into unintentionally destroying the entire world long enough for his cover to not be blown until the very end of Rush Adventure.
>>567945449Amy's reaction: *picrel*
>>567943525Ian....
Good morning.'iona is the best, sally smells bad.
Knuckles says: I was eating an apple but it was tasting funny so I cracked it in half and the core was mouldy and now I'm sad
The end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never...
>>567946849fiona stinks good
Learn to count with sonic the hedgehog!One!
>>567947046dooon't STOP
>>567947046We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells. We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells. We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells. We conjure the spirits of the computer with our spells.
>>567947346Two! buckle my shoe!
Dow sex
>>567947046>>567947346TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT TOOT-TOOT
I'm gonna go play with myself while thinking about Rouge.
AUGH! ROUGE'S VAGIBA! ROUGES TIITS! UOOOOOOOAH!!
Things are getting a bit too real...
>>567939339>His response to a computer not working is to karate-chop it.To be completely fair that's what he was supposed to do.
>>567947970He doesn't understand Sonurge and probably hates Sonic too.
/Sthg/, caption this.
>>567948424>PLEASE KNUCKLES I'LL DO ANYTHING! I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR 4 HEADED DICKS! YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT IN FRONT OF SONIC!
>>567948424I already did
I am not mysoginistic, i understand Lanolin's appeal pretty well.It's all contained in the chest area.
>>567948424>Dr. Eggman, who lost everything, reduced to begging from Echidna, owner of Bucket.
>>567948424>why did you make me kill all those innocent blobs?
I really like this model of Eggman with the high shoulders, he looks so devious
>>567948530You mean her lungs?
>>567948850>rolls into a ball>spins when jumping>speed booster>has alien bird dna>suit = roboticizedSamus is a Sonic character desu
>unpopular opinions about ships>the most safe opinions ever
>>567949165Lets seeee what twitter says >sonamy>its repetitive and not very interestingno shit>sonally>its fine but requires sonic to be oocdamn revolutionary>shadouge>its hetslopwhat does that even mean>sonurge>its tsundere and abusivenot going to lie i'm not savvy enough to know what tsundere means>tailsream>it's boringmehsonic fans are just kind of dull
>>567949134She'd get along with Rouge. I bet they'd have a lot to talk their tits off about.
>>567949165>i am edgy but i would never ever ever ever ever ever say a meany word
>>567947802>Implying Amy wouldn't literally smash the cat
>>567949165Surge should be a big booty tsundere for Sonic who is embarrassed about her crushAmy should move on and accept her role as Sonic's bestieShadow should get raped by Princess Sally
>>567949697>Amy should move on and accept her role as Sonic's bestieAnd marry 7ft human male (she's 2.1ft)
I like this ship I don't care.Screw the Land of the Sky, start humanity anew in the Land of Darkness.
>>567949939Can Sarah just create a pipe out of nowhere like Amy's hammer?
>>567949939I miss the ova characters. Of course everyone loves her since she is really cute but even the dumb owl had a cute design
>>567950039>out of nowhereThat's what guys think?
>>567949475>sonamy is repetitive and not very interestingBad opinion
>>567950138Bestie...
notice how she opened her eyes in time of little emotional distress
>>567950173You're getting way too comfortable using that word
Sonic's purple wife.
>>567950365He has a pink wife too! And a orange one! And a black one! It's a multicoloured marriage!
>>567947802Twitter knows that Amy getting cucked is in-character
they care for each other
>>567950591...Amy is literally unconscious anon.
Green hill looks more like sand hill now.
>>567950679i didnt mean in the sense at the same timein times of need
>>567950591>it sure would be inconvenient if this pink one died. Who would Sonic cuck?-teh Shadow
lego silver has the most melanin out of any lego sonic character
MARIA NOOOO!>shadow remembah to do go- *gets shot*NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>Sh-shad- *shot again, head splits open*NOOOOOOOOOOOO BASTARD!>*granade blows her body up*NOOOOOOO OH oh oh oh..... *cries*>*body is burned with a flamethrower*STOOOOOOOOOOOOOP SHE'S ALREADY DEAD! *gets ejected in a capsule*
I will never give a crap about capeshit. But Sonic looks pretty good wearing red
>>567951401Absolute garbage.
Do you guys think Sega will have a huge segment of Summer Game Fest? Konami had one with a recent State of Play. Maybe we will see the next mainline Sonic game?
>>567951401Nintendo Sonic
unnf
ELEMENTS OF THE SONIC CHARACTERS, REBORN>WindSonic, Amy, Shadow, Espio, Jet>ElectricityTails, Cream, Rouge, Charmy, Surge>FireKnuckles, Big, Omega, Vector, Blaze>WaterChaos, Marine, KitsunamiClearly we have too many water-adepts.
>>567951401cream in a supergirl costume makes me feel things..
>>567953024Wow Marine is so """"""redundant""""""
>>567953024I forgot Big was Fire..prolly means he prefers to cook his fish rather than eat it raw.
Terrifying: someone out my favorite character in a ship I hate without making him ooc.
>>567953024Not including Surge, why the rest of those characters are electricity themed?
>>567951401i grow weiry of Sonic's Shovel Knight level of crossover whorism lately mainly because it's not successful the franchise hasn't grown in wealth since htey started doing this kind of stuff kids don't give a damn, stunted man children get pissed seeing this shit and perverts don't buy things they just goon to ai generated porn of things because no artists will even draw their disgusting requests anymore
>>567953840Sonic Heroes made the teams elemental-based, so all the Speed types are wind, Fly types are thunder, and Power types are fire.
>>567953970>kids don't give a damnI don't know if financially it was a success or not, but it absolutely reached the normie crowd. At the very least it made some noise
>>567953024>Rouge is NOT the windSonougebros...
*SCHLUUUUUUUUURRRP*ANON, get me a soda.>shouldn't you exercise?After, the soda.>fiona you're getting fat!THIS IS WHO I AM!
>>567955091>>fiona you're getting fat!>THIS IS WHO I AM!based, fiona dgaf
>>567955091>>567955235Drawfags draw her getting behind Silver and squeezing his cock until he spurts milky ropes
>>567955286Getting your cock squeezed from behind is kind of a surreal experience, it's like an out-of-body masturbation experience. Also I can do it no-hands with telekinesis myself.
>>567953024Surge/Jet/Blaze should be a team in Sonic Heroes 2.>Kit? Wave? Storm? Silver?Never heard of 'em!
>>567957449Good job, this is premium bait material
>>567957554Thanks, it took me 20 minutes to make it
>>567957626if this was posted to twitter, idw people and nonidw people would be in eachothers throats probably. I don't know if so much here
>>567957771when i was a kid it made me so mad when she threw tails
>>567957756Eh, I don’t browse social media. I will let anons have fun themselves if they want to post it somewhere else
>>567957803I can imagine, poor kid had his cootie-detector go off for the wrong reason.
>>567958067yeah
Cooking
>>567958376Topaz is so fucking fine
>>567958246sometimes ian's writing feels like it's supposed to be a parody. it's kind of funny when he does that.
>>567958509That arc was probably one of his best.
>>567958617For sure
Hot take but I hate the spindash in Frontiers. All people use it for is flying over the entire level.
>>567930612>In fact its what a lot of characterfags want, even though they don't admit it. It's why so many try to overemphasize Sonic parallels to signal how deserving of shilling their chosen character is.The fact that the parallels exist only reinforce how they deserve their own spotlight. Shadow & Silver. Tails, Amy & Knuckles. Blaze. Even Jet. All of them are so directly built around Sonic himself that they each deserve their own spotlight, their own stories, their own games. Not just them, but Cream & Cheese. Rouge. Team Chaotix, as have already been proven. These characters are too strong to just be sidelined.
>>567958246Knuckles cock just twitched
>>567958789>The fact that the parallels exist only reinforce how they deserve their own spotlight.It doesn't though. That's just the basic way you write characters in a perpetually ongoing narrative.All Batman's major characters are conceptualized the same way.>These characters are too strong to just be sidelined.You especially lost me when you said "Cream & Cheese. Rouge. Team Chaotix".The reality is people just like their strong designs and that's why they wanna PLAY as them. And when you ask people how they should play, it always just ends up as Sonic expies.People want all the pluses of being Sonic but in a different character who isn't Sonic.
>>567959237>He thinks it's about gameplayHow naive
There is no difference between the Invincibility item box and the Super form.
>>567959598the tenkaichi budokai looks a bit different from what I remember...
>>567959580Invincibility doesn't make you faster or cooler
>>567959730I never understood why "short tempered" is in Sonic's character description when the games never show it
>>567959936I don't think it's used to mean he gets angry.
>>567959936Weird translation probably.
The wind himself
>>567960341Why isn't he wind coloured? (transparent)
>>567959936It shows in Lost World
>>567960406You are looking at all the dirt it's carrying
>>567959936Short-tempered, or rather impatience, by Japanese standards. Stuff like picrel and his other classic era idle animations that present his short temperament and annoyance with slow players.Modern Sonic definitely underplays this compared to Classic though. They probably should take it out of his character bio as Modern Sonic is a more patient and laid back character.
>>567960637Sonic is supposed to be short tempered AND laidback, though.
>>567960637>Short-tempered, or rather impatience, by Japanese standardsSo like Yuji Naka
Why do Modern Sonic fans hate Classic Sonic so much?
>>567960825When I was a kid I had a childish hatred of classic Sonic because I thought he was the same thing as satam who I hated for being different from the games I was attached to.
>>567960825Modern design > Classic design.
>>567960825I just didn't really play much of the classic games until I grew up, no access.
>>567960825oh i hate seeing the advance sprites in the old games
futuristic plaps
>>567960714(90s) Classicnic was short tempered with a laidback side, Modernic is laidback but can (rarely) get short tempered.
>>567961875Watching Jaws with Saleta!
>>567961895I feel like this is a misunderstanding on both ends. Sonic's "short temper" refers to his impulsiveness and impatience, where its an aspect of his urgency to take action and get things done as soon as possible. Sonic is aloof and laidback, but when he has to do something, he takes action immediately without any hesitation or forethought.
>>567959936I think they more mean he is hotheaded. In general I'd say rhr storybook games show it off pretty well. The way he reacts to Erazor calling him a rat or the Knights of the Round going on about muh chivalry.Sonic is a pretty chill guy but he tends to burn up when you trip over his land mines. But he doesn't really stay mad for long.
>>567962094Shadow: I want to manipulate Gerald's grandson into destroying the people who took my family awaySonic: No!Saleta: I want to manipulate Gerald's Great-great-great-great-great Grandson into destroying the people who took my family awaySonic: Oh hell yeah slay queen
>>567962526I think Sonic adapted to being sent to a future where all of his friends died horrible deaths and their distant grandkids are left to protect the universe a little too quick. Maybe a little too windy for Archienic.
>>567962134I can see that, but I also feel that Classic and Modern present that impulsiveness differently. For Classic is a benefit that initiates the game and can usually resolve problems before they start, for Modern, it usually gets him into trouble that he has to fight his way out of.I don't think the Classic games really showcased Sonic's laidback side too often while the Modern games go out of their way to.
>>567962798There's no such thing as being too windy when it comes to Sonic
>>567962919I personally draw the line at Evan Sonic trying to kill Belle while making fun of her appearance
>>567962897Drawing the line at the eye color plus maybe height will never be any less arbitrary than drawing it anywhere else. Neither of the two designs are consistently written, even less so with these particular details in mind, and none of it has anything to do with the designs. It would make more sense to compare different writers. Maybe you should analyze the characterization differences of Longquilnic, Shortquilnic and Mediumquilnic.
>>567962134>>567962897(me)wrong pic, lol
>>567962897>I don't think the Classic games really showcased Sonic's laidback side too often while the Modern games go out of their way to.He lounges on the ground when you idle long enough.I think Modern just benefits from having the ability to show it off more.Promotional art of Classic Sonic shows him being laid back constantly.OVA does it as well.
>Sonic vs Surge arguing about if the doctors should die
I don't like it when people angrily compare IDW to steven universe because it's like they just mentally associate all "quirk chungus soft uwu" content with that show when steven universe is outright edgier and riskier than IDW and most Sonic media in general
>>567964121>when steven universe is outright edgier and riskier than IDW and most Sonic media in general
>>567963829>He lounges on the ground when you idle long enough.It's funny because Spinball (and Labyrinth) is the only MD game he does that as an idle.
>>567964357He does it in Sonic 2 as well. You just have to wait long enough. I dont remember if he does in 3 or &K.
Sad reality.Even Ian were to be removed we'd get someone just like him next in line that only cares to bastardize the cast as a whole, and we'll never escape this hell, Ian did't write Lost World nor Team Sonic Racing yet they all sucked just the same. Drown into darkness..
>>567964323I think it's a real testament to how transgressive an impactful SU was that people still bring it up seven years after its conclusion. Like what did the show do to leave such a lasting impression?
>>567964679The elephant in the room here is that Ian is the first and only writer who got hired because the FANDOM said he is the perfect fit.
>>567964679Ian is imperfect rather than unsalvageably bad. He just needs to be reigned in a bit.
>>567963942Is every criticism about jesus just a strawman taken out of context?
>>567964756People dont bring it up because it was transgressive. They bring it up because it started trends people don't like.It didnt have the way for anything. It just codified things that were already popular with its audience. As for why it left an impression, its mostly down to its fans being psychotic and thus leaving an impact on people.
>>567964756Sex with green midget.
>>567964783This. People can't say SEGA doesnt listen. If anything they listen too much. And that's part of the issue because it means fans feeling obligated to fight for mommy Sneedga's attention.
>>567964793Nah. He's terrible.
>>567965098Sega plugs their ears when everyone tells them to remove the boost.
>>567965108He has a problem with writing referenceslop among other things but he makes sense as a person involved in the writing in some fashion. He generally is good about coming up eith neat ideas even if he is not the best at execution.
>>56796522006 killed the concept of nonboost games.
>>567964756Being a forced meme.No seriously, one day i heard about a homosexual with a youtube channel talking about how complex and impactful that cartoon was because it touches on muh deep issues and mixes it with philosophers nobody cares about. Look about his older videos it's just shitposting with SU.But truth is steven universe started 2 things:>therapy writing (lesbian bullshit)>focus on canon filler (entire secondary characters having their episodes instead of the main story going on)And that is all, it's all smoke.
>>567964969>...it started trends people don't like.That's what transgressive means.
Surge should get fat
>>567965220Because the people that want the boost removed are a minority ultimately.They added it for a reason and that's because the masses want it.Sobic fans have an issue of being so stuck in their bubble they cant understand how someone could not jive with things they put on a pedestal.The masses play Sonic for the fantasy of being the blue speed devil who runs fast, not just playing as a blue marble that rolls around.
>>567959398>The French are good for one thing, at least
What does Evan even do as lore team artist? She does like 8 pieces of art a year that seems to be the majority of her job as lore team artist.Is this really a full time salary position?
>>567965563She fucks them.
>>567959598heh, the cute momma is so pissed off.
>>567965532>Because the people that want the boost removed are a minority ultimately.Brother, everyone complains about it when it's seen in a game. It's not a minority. Sega just ignores because they don't know how to make a non-boost Sonic game anymore.
If you want to write for Sonic you have to learn to slice off your fanon biases
>>567965650>IDW office bicycleIt's a living.
>>567965440No it's not. Transgressive means going against the grain.Sonic is transgressive. Making a game about going fast is seen as a non-starter in the industry.Its why The Flash has no games. The one they tried to make got canned and it even had a lot of Sonic elements to it.But it got canned because making games about going fast is difficult and expensive.SU came out when all the things it is known for were already being done in things like MLP. It just did it altogether in a tumblrina artstype.
>>567965440Cancer is also transgressive.>inb4 but cancer kills the entire bodyYou're starting to get it.
>>567965339>He generally is good about coming up eith neat ideasNone of his ideas have shreds of originality or substance. He writes like an AI chatbot.
>>567965818But Evan and Danny fight the fandom all the time.Evan gets furious at Sega and IDW still for telling her how to write.
Let me write sonic I don't care about lore but I'd make sure Sonic sexy, and he kiss humans on the lips.
>>567965962Which is exactly why you and I are here talking about it. They should have grown past it.
>>567965917ChatGPT 4o created one of the best premises I have seen for a Sonic story in a long while.
>>567964563Oh yeah, lol
>>567965974Nice.
>>567965774>Brother, everyone complains about it when it's seen in a game.You sound like the Retro-users that insisted everyone hated SA2 on release.>Sega just ignores because they don't know how to make a non-boost Sonic game anymore.The spindash has always been a glorified boost in 3D anyway.They moved away from rolling physics overtime because it facilitated jank and wasnt seen as intuitive to players eho weren't already sonic autists.
Sexnic is what fans truly want but Sega doesn't pay any mind to what we really want.
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>>567959730>"I'm also into cute little girls like you. Hope you're ready to run!"
>>567966003>They should have grown past it.In the case of Evan as someone who knew her she legitimately does not have a personal love of writing.Like she does not like writing for its own sake not does she have some need to feel like she needs to write to accomplish something else she wants to achieve.She is a writer on IDW both out of a love of Sonic and legitimately because she has actual mental issues that she is using the comic to deal with.
>>567965563What does Yui Karasuno even do as Sonic character supervisor? She does like 8 pieces of art a year that seems to be the majority of her job as character supervisor.Is this really a full time salary position?
Me nuking africa is transgressive.Clearly, it's not the kind of transgression most people would like... and yet games like postal are considered a classic.
>>567966301She oversees IDW actually.
>>567966389Wait I got her confused with Sachiko Kawamura. Is karusano a full time sega employee?
I think Sonic should fuse, Boost SA1, and 2 into one game.Boost stages are segments for spectical, ether being for the end or start up of the stage.SA1 Open ended stage design as the default, and SA2 being second major half of the stage that focuses on high speed obstacle course with more platforming before ether opening up back to SA1 design philosophy or Boost segment.And most importantly Sonic should be a hue of blue.
>>567965454
>>567966603I'm going to marry her and make her worse and coddle her hatred of sonic
>>567966240Sonic doesn't need amazing writing. Even at there best Sonic games dont have the best writing in the world. What they have is compelling writing that does things with the characters anf what they stand for/represent.I think people get too caught up in the material "writing" when Sonic usually wins off of themes and vibes.
>>567965563What does Tomoko Kanemoto(Hayane) even do as Sonic Character Supervisor? She does like 8 pieces of art a year that seems to be the majority of her job as Sonic character supervisor.Is this really a full time salary position?
>>567966703>You come home one evening accidentally wearing a blue shirt
The reason the Spindash was introduced into Sonic in the first place was to smooth over hoe unfun it was to have to walk backwards to build up speed to go through set pieces.On rare occasions, you had things like the Lava Reef elevators where it was used to rotate mechanisms.In 3D it was a go fast button.The need to use it to go through set pieces without having to backtrack no longer exists so it became a thing that stayed in the games as a formality more than anything.It's telling that SA1fags complain about SA2ls having a charge delay for this reason.People care about the idea of thr spindash rather than the spindash itself. People symbolically associate it with 3D movement and the boost with endless runner gameplay. Thats it.Frontiers has both and it shows the difference is negligible outside of thr spindash letting you skip over tons of level design.
>>567966524SA1s gameplay isn't good. People only shill it because of the idea of being sonic walking around in a space that doesnt feel like a level.
>>567967192Thoughts on the Rocket Accel, ST attempt to get the spindash to work in 3D without being (too) broken?
>>567966725Okay but does IDW have themes?
>>567966140They could make 1:1 scale Sonic lovedolls and make so much profit.
>>567967714IDW has some rather inadvertent theming. there's this story of stagnation. This is something IDW wanted to comment on but it's now part of what's being commented on. That Sonic and eggman's dynamic won't progress. But it literally can't because that's who they are officially. So now the characters designed to comment on it must conform and then stagnate themselves.
>>567967427I used to dislike it as a kid because it just feels less good than the spindash, but from a design perspective and even mechanically, its superior to it.You can still move around while charging it and you can even quick fire it with good timing.I think the thing that lets it down are that you have to tap it twice to get any good speed with it because they made Tails' launch weak and Knuckles' super powerful, which makes sense but makes it kinda clunky.In general though the lack of the wind-up we associate with the spindash makes it tactilely less satisfying then the spindash. I think they should have had a charge sound effect similar to the spindash for it. Would have helped it a lot.Overall though the rocket access it still not used that much. The only point in the game where it is meaningfully meant to be used is on the Eggfleet to launch yourself past the reversed conveyorbelts into the ship's engine. But you can kinda just cheese your way through without using it.
>>567967427I played a lot of Heroes as a kid and remember never using it all that much.
>>567967714>does IDW have themes?(Eh-hehehaha...) (Ooh-hoho...) You can't do anythingSo don't even try it. Get some helpDon't do what Sonic does (Eh-hehehaha...) (Ooh-hoho...)Yay! Yea-yea-yea-yea-hy!
>>567967956That is what I thought.
>>567964121You are correct, but the retards here who love to randomly bring up that show have never actually watched it>Like what did the show do to leave such a lasting impression?Nothing, it has more to do with its culture war marketing in the US
>>567967714It does, but the comic can't actually say much on most of its themes because most of its themes are trying to be meta-comentary on the series being a series.It makes the themes come out half baked or jank because of this.The character who handled this the best was Starline because he actually turns the concept on its head and showcases the problem of this very attitude, failing due to his own hubris over thinking he as a fan just knows better than the guy in charge, complaining about things being the way they are because he sees himself as enlightened for pointing it out.Im not fully convinced that it was the intention from the start though. It seems more like something they had to pivot to because they didnt have a choice.But it is ultimately solid.
IDW>The world is this way, and there are people who can change it if they wanted to, they don't want to>you can try to change it, they will stop you>you can adapt to the world instead, people will love you for it>there are relationships burgeoning, but they can't go any further
>>567967192It was always a go fast button. Most players actually dislike needing to build up and maintain speed. Pretentious classicfags only enjoy to pretend they like it. The only Sonic game that does it is Sonic 1, and most Sonic fans hate it.
If you try to change the world, the world will change you. That's IDW
In 2D Sonic, speed was a reward. In modern it's part of the gameplay.
>>567939734Horns, baby.
Music that sounds like Sonic music but isn't Sonic music. https://alyzea.bandcamp.com/track/aero-garden
>>567968798The difference is that in the Classics, its not a particularly good "go-fast" button because you have to come to a stop and mash to use it.In the Adventure games, you mash it to keep going faster and faster at any moments notice.SA2 puts a delay on it to discourage this behavior so most people instinctively only use it before inclines or after having already come to a stop.Part of the problem with thr spindash and the boost is that players will instinctively think to use it after getting it or having their momentum stopped because players naturally wanna go fast in a Sonic game.So the devs have to design around this.Ive come to thr conclusion that this is why thr Airdash was gimped starting with Unleashed. To discourage players mashing it ans flying off stages. By making it start and stop, players feel less like its the game being "loose", etc.Part of being a game developer is also helping players both gind the fun and correct way to play your game as well as discouraging bad behaviors. But Sonic autists don't think about this because they are stuck in romhack land with people that play the games with themselves in mind only. Sonic as a game is inherently less approachable because his appeal is speed and spectacle but that also means its both easy to make a game that isnt actually being played as well as make one that feels "cheap" to newcomers.
>>567969343Wife and husband
>>567969508>because you have to come to a stop and mash to use itIt's still a go fast button. Now you can do it while still in the air so you don't even need to stop, and people love it even more. It turns out people actually want a go fast button in Sonic, they just like to pretend they don't.
>>567944560
>>567968994This is just a classicfag meme in practice. The more thr series went on, even in the Classics, speed was just given to you. It's more accurate to say "In Sonic 1, speed was a reward". And people hated it.The devs wanted to make speed part of the active gameplay but simply couldn't. Being able to do that in 3D was one of the benefits of the transition to 3D.That doesn't mean it doesnt have its own pitfalls though.
Why are Sonurge haters against tsundere?
>>567969863>pitfallsTrue.
Hello /sthg/!
Sonic's ass
>>567947865
>>567966163Epic!
>>567968994"Speed was a reward" is a misconception. Sonic games, whether 2D or 3D, are designed to be played and replayed so you can find shortcuts and secrets to complete the stages faster. You might still be fast while on a slower path. The only game that makes you go slow (if you're a noob who's bad a the game) is Sonic 1, and only in about half of the zones.
>>567969813>Now you can do it while still in the air so you don't even need to stop, and people love it even more. It turns out people actually want a go fast button in Sonic, they just like to pretend they don't.Okay yeah this is absolutely true.Drop Dash proves this completely.The reality is most things Sonicfans bitch about are symbolic or aesthetic, but admitting that will immediately come off as shallow and get it dismissed. So people often try to present it as more deep than it is.Classicfags are attached to the idea of Sonic curling into a ball and rolling through set pieces to go fast so they overemphasize it by stressing momentum and junk.This is despite Sonic as a character being conceived as a guy eho runs fast rather than merely rolling down a hills like a marble.That said, I do wish more slope stuff would come back to Sonic in some form. But I dont think its all there is to Sonic like some people insist, nor do I think its viable.
>>567969939They want to make it look like the trope somehow reduces the character's dignity, when it's just something fun that exists in anime. Fun fact: the people who say Sonurge is shit are women, and we know they have no sense of humor, or they're trannies who basically hate anything anyway. They'll tell you that you have to respect women or some shit, while the enjoy genuinely shit ships like Donite or Whispangle, where those characters are actually reduced to ship bait. Lastly, we have our Sonamyfriends who hate any ship that isn't theirs.
>>567970196Please talk about Sonic the Hedgehog
>>567970151Sonic's talented ass.
>You two look exactly alike!>But you're black.
Sonic 2 makes better use of it's physics than Sonic 1 funnily enough
>>567970030This is a forced meme complaint. All 3D platformers have level design like that. The only ones that don't are the craplectathon games, and even those have levels within them that are designed like pic related.My shock! The fast paced obstacle course platform game needs to be an obstacle course? Nani!?!?SA1fags will pretend there levels are so much better when the levels are substanceless as hell. Its not a coincidence that the best level in the game is SpeedHighway which does have pevel design like pic related.When Mario made actual course clear games in 3D, they also have level design like pic related.
>>567970485https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r80rFcRppU
>>567948509kekKnux takes the deal.
>>567948509Waste of a series
>>567970141Hello!
>>567970141Hi!!!
Create a horror plot based on Sonic with following criterias:- No twisting characters in a Sonic.exe-like way- Usage and building off of only concepts in official media, which can be anything from games to comics and old manga- Has to be at least 95% serious- Try to be actually scary
>>567970609>pevel
>>567948509What is the origin of this meme that has been going around?
the fact that knuckles entire story as a character would have pivoted if ken penders didn't sue
>>567970813
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>>567970816The Boys tv show.
No story is interesting if everyone lives in perfect harmony.
>>567971095Hence, the IDW problem. World full of cute lil' pussies.
>>567970924Of course. Thanks anon
>>567971095This is why Insomniac Spider Man 2 is utter dogshit
>>567948939kek
Amy offers her son up for adoption.
>>567970903Tails! :D
>>567971487^-^
>>567950274All part of her PTSD charm.
There's a new Virtua Fighter game so maybe there's a new Sonic game huh
>>567971214Genuinely, sincerely baffles me how people don't like these guys. They're uncomplicated bad guys, each with their own gimmick.
>>567971591<3
>>567968439All that comes from Flynn's run though
>>567971642They're shallow even by Sonic standards and they're ugly. Eggman Nega is better than them, and that's how you know they're fucked
>>567971664Cool variant
>>567971642Maybe it's because they never played Lost World? I've never played Lost World.
>>567970814 I goofed
>>567971845:)
Which Sonic character would NiGHTS eat out first?
>once upon a time in a world full of faggots, a chud so angry he decided to nuke everyone
>>567971934It's fine, just made me smile like a derp.
Tails' cute chubby body
>>567972075Poor Japan on 6th and 9th August 1945.
>>567972000>progress 55.2%The decomp can't come soon enough. I want to try modding it
>>567971865It's not bad. 6/10 kind of game, very good soundtrack, some surprisingly good little touches and flourishes. What's weird is it doesn't explain any of the game-specific stuff in-game: presumably because it's assuming you're playing on a WiiU machine, with a disc that came in a box along with a printed instruction manual.Go grab it in a few weeks once the summer Steam sale starts, it's worth a look.
>>567972220Someone recently made a level editor, but it sounds like it will be outdated when the decompilation is done since the developer didn't take it into account
>>567972271Yeah, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.
>>567971642They are forever associated with LostWorld's sanitized look and corny writing.And unlike Mephiles or Infinite, they dont have superfically edgy animal character designs to carry them.IDW actually did a lot to make me warm up to them. People that complain about them being "shallw" are full of crap. These same people shill Metal Sonic of all characters.Whatsmore is that they are just Zavok's minions for the most part so them not being super deep is fine. Zavok himself has enough going on as a character to carry them.I like the idea of this villain who hates Eggman because Eggman messed eith the wrong monster of the week and still has no sympathy for Sonic. Is it the most complicated thing ever? No, but that's fine. Not every character needs to be the next Shadow.
>>567972341I'm looking forward to sonic studio for level editing.Advance is more for the actual movesets
>>567972371Wouldn't this be like presenting a severed finger to your crush?
>>567972710Amy is such DEI coded character it's kinda funny
>>567972621Sonic's wife is cute!
>>567972020god I love this sex jester
>>567971642Their designs suck. I will never care for them just based on that.The fact that their powers are random, their lore sucks and they come from the worst sonic game ever made is just further reason to hate on them.
>>567972747Worked for Van Gogh.
Drago
>>567972639>LostWorld's sanitized look and corny writingAnd you're framing it as though that's a bad thing! It feels like I'm taking crazy pills! Aaahhh!!
>>567972692Makes sense
>>567972747No because she isn't a literal flower
>>567972838kek & touché.
Diesel
>>567972838Furthering this analogy, Cosmo is a prostitute....
>>567972747If I bought you a roast would you look at it as some act of barbarism because it's a dead mammal?
>>567973145I thought we were having steamed clams.
>>567972639>IDW actually did a lot to make me warm up to themSo you admit that anyone that was only exposed to them via LW would not give them a second glance
>>567972980Is still a bit weird though.>>567973145Only if it was human meat.
>>567973183kek
>>567971095Perfect harmony =/= free from conflict
>>567973183Isometric exercise! Care to join me?
>>567973215NTA but Lost World is very basic and kind of bad for it, it's just mario without the quality of Mario. And the designs are uninspired.I really hope they Use Zavok again but as a main villain, give him a power up as an excuse to redesign him, he doesn't need to be super edgy or anything but make him feel more than a bowser clone. Give me peakvok. Shelving is lame and gay.
>>567973169
>>567962897>For Classic is a benefitClassic Sonic's impatience is what costs him all seven Chaos Emeralds at the start of Sonic 3.It is a flaw, the whole point of the word "impatience" means you are not patient, that you explicitly lack that virtue.
>>567973523topkek
>>567973183Now I remember I drew this.
>>567973215Most people didn't even play LW so their opinions on them isn't even really based on the game itself.Everyone I've seen that actually played thr game came out thinking Zazz was at least fun and Zavok was decent, even if they ultimately came out not loving them.
>>567973679Mobiusisflat?
>>567973523I just ... I love the checkerboard aesthetic. It's so simple, iconic and beautiful. If you don't love Green Hill Zone we can't be friends
>>567973681>Everyone I've seen that actually played thr game came out thinking Zazz was at least funYes because being wacky and violent is a loud personality that gets attention, and puts him ahead of the others. The green one skirts by as the third most popular simply because her entire being is defined as "woman"
Sonurge
>>567973964No
>>567974089This implies that Surge did nothing wrong.
>>567974030
>>567974073I liked the sad emo one. And the big fat one, because big fat bosses are a core gaming thing
>>567974114Oh well still nice work.
>>567973407Only because you unbalance shit from time to time.>blueyBrony 2.0 CANCER
>>567974392Let's not say anything we can't take back, anon.
I am like my heroine fiona, sit on the sofa eating garbage.
>>567974531Fight me, but i warn you, i mastered the forbidden practice of antisemitism.
The story is true.
Sonic characters for this feel?
>>567974073Zazz has that in comon with Surge. It's an archetype people just kind of enjoy.Then Surge does it on top of being a girl and being yet another sonic doppelganger .Zavok has the eloquent monster thing going for him. I actually prefer Zik over Zeena but yes Zeena is thr close third because "girl".
Tails
>>567974552Hey! A girls gotta eat.
hes coming to get (you)
The joke I was aiming for is 'how dare you put ponies (good) on the level of Bluey (bad)', but I think I lost the thread of things somewhere. Never mind.
>>567974925For some reason my first thought seeing this was the cat girl Bagi
>>567974925Time for some poetry…“Fatal Attraction”When her eyes start radiating lewdness and her body screams for your tender touch the scent of her nectar intoxicates you and you simply want her way too much.She will absorb your childhood innocence and prove to you that life is full of sins. You can try to resist her attraction, but in the end it is she who wins.Metin Y. To Judith, March 1995
>>567974030>>567974243
>>567974243oof, that'll be sore tomorrow.
https://youtu.be/gX7MOcp_ZX4I just realised. Wave says that they "end up working with Eggman half the time". When?In the first game, they were simply participating in his race.The second game, they are actively fighting him and his machines.The third game they are again just participating in another race
>>567972841Where's dragofag? where are you man?
>>567976048Maybe the writers who never played the games read it off a wiki page somewhere.
>>567973108
>>567976048Unrelated to your post but putting the D6 beside Eggman really highlights how they didn't think through how their designs look too simple. Either Uekawa lost his touch, or a different designer was in charge and should have had Uekawa step in to make final changes
What did Sonic Colors mean by this?
Rare Xitter WDown with with Roblox favela
brb gotta stretch my penis
>>567975062Vanilla when she notices the way I drool when I'm babysitting Cream.
>>567976918
At this point, Amy needs a new theme song. Her SA1 theme doesn't make any sense for her character now.
>>567977403It does if you play in Japanese.
>>567977475Ehhhh, even in Japanese.
>>567975324I don't sweat Shadow.
>>567975260You like chicken too, Fiona?Sonic won't let me eat it anymore...
>>567973272you asked for it, Tails!
>>567967192>People care about the idea of thr spindash rather than the spindash itself. People symbolically associate it with 3D movement and the boost with endless runner gameplay. Thats it.I would argue nearly very mechanic in Sonic has become symbolic like this
>>567978062He likes to watch.
>>567978050Looks like i'm taking the boy out for chicken and waffles.
one character doesnt fit
>>567978069This is incredibly sexy, holy shit lol
>>567978307Fuckin' Silver.
>>567975640Nice.
>>567978307It's the robot.
>>567978307Half Lid ZoneLewdow
>>567960825They are better and and beloved by everyone not retarded weebs.
>>567978069H.. Hot.. Artist name?
You have the power to be her friend.
>>567978062Windpiss is a beneficiary, but she should try some Mountain (Knuckles) and Rain (Shadow) piss next.
>>567978307>everyone is looking sleek and sexy>and then you get to silver and his design breaking forehead
>>567978307I agree, why TF Sonic is with those shitty losers?
>>567978737zoskylicious
>>567978794I'd ask her for a friendly tailjob.
>>567978468Silver. Refer to the elements: >>567953024Sonic, Amy and Shadow are different degrees of Wind.Metal is Electric madquerading as Wind (an emulation) which is why he fails at beating Wind.Silver is maybe a level above a nonelemental character due to Telekinesis but he still doesn't fit into Wind/Electric/Fire/Water.
>>567978307Metal-sama... suteki....
>>567978307It's THAT faker who's standing in Shadow's spot!
>>567979313>half lid Vegeta cursed imagery
>>567953024>me>the only Grass-type in the galaxina
>>567979158
>>567979732>>567979732>>567979732
>>567960341The wind is gay
>>567979528Do want. Even if I had to include Sonic & Tails.
>>567979158>KatoslopFuck off Ian
>>567980104kek
>>567954749Rouge is the only character to change types depending on the game actually: In Adventure 2, she was a match for Knuckles (which should theoretically make her a Power Type --Fire?) and in Chronicles she had some wind technique (Tornado Kick).
>>567980670Perfect size for unbirthing
>>567975930https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMb46Dkge8&start=345
>>567967192I've been saying this for years.>Frontiers has both and it shows the difference is negligible outside of thr spindash letting you skip over tons of level design.Especially this. People bitched and moaned until it was added in and then no one fucking talked about it anymore.
>>567976779Same thing Superstars did, probably.
