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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9344 - Eggline Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
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>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>567921559
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First for 'iona.
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>>567979732
holy gay faggot OP
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>>567979909
Thirst for 'iona.
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Hello, I am Judge Jury and Executioner
All Hail the IanPotto Empire
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>>567979942
Right? I was gonna make a gay Antoine OP...
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>>567979732
kek and gay.
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>>567979732
Why is Starline so breedable? Artist?
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I have autogynophilia and love Tails.
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>>567964121
>>567968331
Steven himself is an extremely soft and infantile character that solves all his problems through nepotism. Especially in the early seasons.
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>>567980168
Get well soon!
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>>567977243
Quite literally.
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There is nothing wrong with liking Knuckles.

There is nothing wrong with liking cuckold porn and self-inserting as the cuckee.

We see you, Knucklesbros. You are loved. You are valid.
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>>567979976
oh shit...
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Bvsed
We need to go back.
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Douge
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So anyway, is Frontiers: Definitive Edition all we have on the horizon for Sonic games?
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pleasecareaboutarchie
pleasecareaboutarchie
pleasecareaboutarchie
pleasecareaboutbleach
pleasecareaboutarchie
pleasecareaboutarchie
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>>567980708
At the moment. They probably won't bother revealing anything until after GTA6 has been out for a little while.
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Do you autists think Captain Planet is a darker show than Sonic SatAM?
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>>567980749
>pleasecareaboutbleach
Never read or watched bleach, is it fun?
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>out of nowhere
that's right, /dbs/issy, /sthg/ belongs to BleachGODS.

>>567980790
It's the GoaT
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>>567980692
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>>567980749
pleasedrinkbleach
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>>567980790
Yes
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Jax abstracted btw.
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>>567980749
pleasecareaboutbubsy
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>Bleach
Perhaps I was too hard on the Fullbring arc.
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>>567981008
i don't care about the therapy foid show.
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>mfw consuming bleach
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Speaking of Bleach, wip
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>>567981008
This is how Aura/UwU idort faggots want Silver to be written as btw.
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>>567980981
Shadow needs someone to do this to him.

Better yet someone who is already behind him after he teleports.
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>>567981363
Cool
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>>567980981
Holy shit
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>>567981236
The second carpet is gone.
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>>567981363
sick
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If Sonic is The Wind, who is The Almighty?
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>>567981208
ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THE THERAPY FOID BLUE RAT
BUT NEVER ABOUT MY THERAPY

*panic attack*
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how is it not therapy speak when sonic "inspires"
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>ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS THE THERAPY FOID BLUE RAT
>BUT NEVER ABOUT MY THERAPY

>*panic attack*
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>>567981510
Nothin' a little club soda wont get out.
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>>567981401
>you want your favourite character to be complex, not just some lamer Shadow
yeah? What's wrong with that?
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>>567980223
>Ep 1: solves the problem by throwing the fridge at the monster
>Ep 2: solves the problem by saying the password to unlock the cannon
>Ep 7: solves the problem by figuring out the monster is attracted to light and crushing it
>Ep 8: they only get out of the temple's because he figures out the mechanism
>Ep 12: convinces the team to work together
Just a few of the early ones. You've never watched the show
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>>567982010
never played the games, goes by fanfiction award
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>>567982212
>silver
>games
>plural
nobody is missing anything. Just play 06
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>>567980129
At a guess I'd say JustTaylor.
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Auraverfags would unironically have an endless orgasm if Silver was written like Steven in Steven Universe Future (excluding the last 2 episodes)
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>>567982212
>pic
I don't even read much tacoball z, even i can tell something is wrong with that panel.
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>>567981705
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>>567982384
>watching SU
although the slut that made Eddy x Double D porn would probably be a mega windfag.
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>>567982421
I think it's from toyotaro's old dragon ball AF thingy
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>>567981893
Gigger win.
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>>567979732
I would like to have gay buttsex with Starline too please
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>>567982629
I watched when it was new and I haven't seen it since it ended 6 years ago. I am intrigued by the people who are obsessed with bringing it up in this general when they clearly never watched it at all
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>>567982545
Amy is Destiny, SHYnic will never escape it.
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>>567982384
I can't believe people watched that show after the original fight with white diamond was over, there was clearly nothing else to tell. But yet again, I can't understand why /co/ thought that snorefest of a movie was good either, must had been horny waifufags
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>>567982896
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>rumors saying the next BotW/TotK follow up will involve dimensional travel
Are you excited for Sonic Frontiers 2, anon?
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>>567983043
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>We have anons here who watched steven tumblr unironically
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>>567982791
>>567982421
Super Kai
https://mangadex.org/title/a795b996-7fe1-44af-8e83-372486d4d33e/dragon-ball-super-kai
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>>567982027
I did. I watched that shit from start to finish. He solved his problems with nepotism in the end.
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>>567983287
Is Trunks still fucking an old woman
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>>567983092
>rumors saying the next BotW/TotK follow up will involve dimensional travel
>Fartchie zone mindfuckery + multiverse DC/marvel mansturbation.
WHY YES I AM EXCITED ABOUT A CENTURY OLD COMIC PLOT DEVICE!
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>>567980623
Momentum should be used to compliment the game not as the only part, Momentum can be fun but it just becomes open world sloppawith no actual cohesion.
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>>567983265
You're unaware of a lot here, it seems
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>>567982969
I thought the movie was well made and engaging, even if the story was more or less a rehash. But other than that I agree, there was no good reason for it to continue past White Diamond, and Future is very poorly thought out, even more so than seasons 4 and 5.
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>>567982010
Uwuver isn't complex. He's incoherrent because he's written around misunderstandings of SegaSonic Silver. You uwufags just think switching personalities at the drop of a hat is complex because it's the most you can comprehend.
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>>567982010
What is so complex about it?
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>>567983265
I did, and now that we are talking about it I need to say something.
There are times Iizuka, Iand and the rest, should shut the fuck up abuot over explaining the lore. That time the said Sonic had Santa boots I wanted to strangle them with my bare hands. Nobody asked for that stupid piece of trivia,. It reminds me of that time Rebecca Sugar said pink diamond could have had a baby without dying, that she purposely killed herself to have Steven. Is that that type of extra lore that really drives me up the fucking wall. Keep your mouth quiet stupid morons
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>>567983265
Not surprising
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Multiverse is only cool when it's like half-life, so filled with alien life instead of different versions of the protagonists.
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Uwuver isn't a character, he's just Evan squeeing a cute caricature into the comic
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>>567982384
Would you kill yourself already? Always bitching about aura shit. You don't have a fucking point.
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>>567984127
but then why not just leave it as a universe
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>>567984150
Blaming everything on Evan and ignoring everything else will only make things worse.
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>>567980623
Anyone remember Sonic GL?
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>>567983265
What's wrong with that
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>>567984336
Because reasons.
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>>567984683
ah, i get it now!
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>>567981008
I have no idea what that means

>>567984127
I like the Sonic Rush take on it where the Sol counterparts are more loose and conceptual. But that's harder to fill a whole multiverse with.
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>>567983027
What does she taste like?
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>>567983265
I enjoy seeing people like you whine about what you imagine to be SU references when in reality there aren't any, but then when people post actual SU references in this general they go completely unnoticed because none of the haters know enough about the show. It's always very funny to me

>>567984037
I didn't know she said that. But it fits perfectly into the narrative of the show. It being an inevitability is what Rose would want you to believe. The twist in season 5 is all about the fact that, despite making everyone believe that she's heroic and worth looking up to, she is actually immature and incompetent, and did everything she did just so she could run away from her responsibilities. It's a strong theme of the series overall. Also, I don't know why you have a problem with Sonic's shoes being boots. It's not an overexplanation, it's just pointing out an aspect of the character design. It seems to me you just want to stick to the old American "sneakers" misinterpretation, despite it making no sense. This is what Sonic's boots have always looked like when he's not wearing them. It would make no sense for the "socks" to already be inside the shoes in the shape they would have when worn. It's clearly part of the shoe. Overexplanations can be a problem, but neither of these scenarios are overexplanations, they are appropriate

>>567984660
Nothing, that anon is just mentally broken by a show he's never watched and automatically hates because he views everything through political lenses. Pretty sad, really
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>>567982421
>>567983364
Trust me on this, you're not missing out much.
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>>567985078
Pink.
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>>567985056
Eggman Nega is literally just an Eggman recolor.
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>>567984127
Says the girl who liked the alternate universe version of Sonic more...
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>>567984976
No seriously idk why, a parallel universe can be cool to explore with the fucked up physics, and probably more accessible than walking with the FTL travel.
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>>567985414
Eggman Nega is not a parallel version of Eggman.
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would you?
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>>567985140
What the fuck is this? Where's fighting, goofy Toriyama designs, and atmospheric adventure? and can that shadowy guy beat Jiren?
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>>567985584
Eggman Nega is the only reason people perceive any Sol dimension characters as alt dimension parallels.
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Eggman Nega is basically Darkseid's absolute universe oc
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>>567985602
Clean his shoes? Absolutely.
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>>567985562
When you put it like that, yeah that would seem like a better use of an alt universe than what typically happens.
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>>567983894
>>567983982
let's see
Uwuver's personality traits that make sense and add to his character
>insecurity when left alone, constantly clinging to Blaze because he is terrified of losing more of the many people he saw getting killed by Iblis
>over excitemen in mundane activitions than won't be mundane at all in 200 years
>taking jokes literally because he doesn't understand modern slang
>overly Optimism, otherwise he will fall into despair
>like gardening because duh
>hyper fixation on saving the world, now feel aimless after being left in the past without nothing to do as seen in IDW
>social awardness since he didn't interact with that many people at the same time ever

meanwhile, Aurafags has:
>Uh Tanabata

Don't blame me for liking chocolate over vainilla, it just tastes better.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vg98yukj3k
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>>567985820
Would be at least something new than the classic character parallelism.
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>>567985631
Take Ian Flynn, but make the guy french, and he grew up as a meta era fag, and instead of having people like Yardley and ABT, he keeps hiring tryhard realism artists to visualize everything he writes.
You still have shitty headcanon, powertripping on critics, and meta narrative bullshit that seems to be sending a "message" to people.

That's currently DB Multiverse.
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>>567984590
Just to stay in my human raaaaace
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>>567985090
> she did just so she could run away from her responsibilities
that's why she had Steven. The "she can actually have babies without dying" adds nothing to the theme and removes part of the drama that was being unable to have a family without killing herself because she loved Greg so much
>you just want to stick to the old American "sneakers"
yeah? Because it looks better
>misinterpretation
funny you said American misinterpretation, as if japan and literally every country and person in the world don't think those are sneakers either. Trivia so bad everyone ignores it even today
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Me-ah-ow!
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>>567953024
>>567954185
(Thanks a LOT Sonic Heroes) Still I think we can rank the characters from most to least attuned to their Element...
>Wind: Sonic, Jet, Espio, Amy, Shadow
Sonic and Jet rival each others' wind titles, Espio has a few windy ninjutsu techs, Amy and Shadow are more known for mysticism and chaos respectively.
>Electric: Surge, Tails, Rouge, Cream, Charmy
Surge is obvious, Tails is mechanically inclined and has a few gadget tricks as does Rouge, Cream and Charmy are hard to fit in here but I gave the edge to Cream.
>Fire: Blaze, Omega, Vector, Knuckles, Big
Blaze is like Surge, Omega has his firepower built-in, Vector has the rarely-used dragonbreath, Knuckles is sometimes associated with fiery strikes and Big is the odd one out here. (If we count MovieKnuckles then he's virtually in Blaze's spot instead.)
>Sonic Heroes sequel musings...
Honestly if there's a Sonic Heroes sequel I'd move some of these around so the teams don't play identically.
>Charmy, Cream
Move Charmy to a new "Green" type due to his love of flowers (Cosmo can theoretically share this tyle if they reuse her).
>Big, Cream
Tempted to put Cream in a new "Water" type due to her Chao, but Big seems more appropropriate since he's a fisher, so move Cream to the lower half of wind, replacing Amy and Shadow. ALTERNATELY, move both characters to water, but change Team Rose so two characters aren't the same element (not sure what the dplit teams would bd though).
>Shadow, Amy
New "Magical" type that covers mysterious powers like chaos/mystic.
>Bonus: new characters
If there were to be DLC later, Silver and Tikal could fit in the magical element, and Kit and Chaos would fit in water. Metal Sonic is electric. So the existing teams look like
>Sonic: Sonic(Wind)/Tails(Electric)/Knuckles(Fire)
>Rose: Amy(Magic)/Cream(Wind)/Big(Water)
>>alt: Amy(Magic)+Cream(Water)-Big(Water)
>Dark: Shadow(Magic)/Rouge(Electric)/Omega(Fire)
>Chaotix: Espio(Wind)/Charmy(Green)/Vector(Fire)
Now they're less samey.
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>>567986337
I COULD GO SUPER SONIC
THE PROBLEMS CHRONIC
TELL ME DOES LIFE EXIST BEYOND IT?
WHEN I NEED TO SATE
I JUST ACCELERATE
INTO OBLIVION
INTO OBLIVIOONONONONONONNONONNNNNNNN
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>>567986162
IDW is indeed canon and you should stop being so butthurt about it
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>>567986657
honey is a dweeb
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>>567979732
Drago post yet?
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>>567984752
>didn't unspoiler
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>>567986832
You still would.
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>>567986867
Dragofag is dead ok? You have to let death people rest
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>>567986048
Auraver faggots want the other extreme of Silver because they hate JP material too.
Either you are being disgenious or need it fucking hammered to your head.
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>>567986469
>>567986651
>>567986875
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>>567986985
Oh yeah I wouldn't hesitate.
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Honey with her canon heels makes me nut hard
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Honey only likes to rape tails.
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>>567987240
you have to pick a side, west or east, there was never a middle ground, those never win
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>>567987304
Based.
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tricking honey into "raping" me by shoving two tailplugs up my butt
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Sonamy
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>>567986653
>removes part of the drama that was being unable to have a family without killing herself because she loved Greg so much
You can still say that it shows she is extremely selfish and has a complete disregard of everyone's feelings, although I guess you do have a point in that it didn't need to go that far as she already comes off as a bad person either way. I might have to concede on this, maybe it's best to keep it ambiguous

>you said American misinterpretation
Because that's what it is. The name "Power Sneakers" came from the US localization, and if nothing else the localization was and in certain ways still is heavily influential, it wouldn't come up nearly as often without that inaccurate name
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DO YOU LOVE SONIC
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>>567987492
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>>567987571
I reject both and rather Sonic Team cook without any influence from the hood and foid crowd.
They can look forward for what uninspired slop Evan and Ian will put out.
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>>567987679
They'd better give her a cute triangle nose and not a big ol' Sonicy-sausage one.
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>>567986985
Fvckkkkk.... need someone to draw this with every sonic girls..
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>>567987731
I do! And I really love all his female friends / acquaintances / wellwishers.
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>>567988185
>Sticks underboob
>belle woodboob
based
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>>567986048
>Don't blame me for liking chocolate over vainilla, it just tastes better.
NTA but no it doesn't. This is just a thing basic bitches say. It takes an actual connoisseur to not confuse vanilla fot flavorless yogurt.
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>>567988256
Damn you really hate IDW huh
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>>567988247
I still like to think she can inflate and deflate them whenever she likes.
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>>567985584
He really should be, Sage makes the retcon redundant.
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>>567986659
Amy's true element is "Heart".

Shadow's "element" is essentially Chaos Control itself.

Cream's element is essentially Chao.
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>>567988256
what the fuck is the original panel anyway
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>>567987679
More Sonamy pls!!
No more sonadow shit pls!!
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>>567986653
>yeah? Because it looks better
Its not really a looks thing though.
Sonic having MJ boots says more about his character. Sneakers are generic and don't make sense eith what's actually in his design.
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>>567988185
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>>567986680
>
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>>567986092
https://youtu.be/tUAR-ih_YI4?si=0iPbUNpBDZ2akX0s
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>>567988626
Auraverslopfags saw this and said "fuck Sonic Team, let's turn Silver into a Mega Man Zero ripoff but make him swag and tryhard."
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>>567988863
Each to their own. There's no judgements here.
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Dragochad here. I'm working at a factory now and can't do gay smut for you guys anymore. I'm sorry. It's just that I was unemployed and had a lot of spare time to draw, but wiping the floor is exhausting and my hand hurts.
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>>567989095
Why is my goat BROWN?
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I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACH- wait, this is not sonic.
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"Flavorless" yogurt is better than vanilla
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>>567988626
I don't know why you guys are insisting that Sage should replace Nega as Silver's villain
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>>567989230
At least Sonic had a good animated adaptation
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>>567988665
>Shadow's "element" is essentially Chaos Control itself.
He's the rain.
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>>567989296
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>>567989183
At least you got the job, i wish i had something more than bullshit calls.

Btw, good thing you are still alive unless you're a larper.
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>>567989216
He been tanning out in the sun.
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>>567989296
https://youtu.be/WJqSmvLl6Ys?t=30
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>>567985729
That's not true and he's still not parallel Eggman.
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>>567989095
Would
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Dante should kiss and fuck Lady already tho.
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>>567989391
Where?
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>>567989367
Because Nega was Blaze's villain first.
Silver's villain is the Bad Future rather than any one person/entity.
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>>567989367
Because they want their dumb hood twitter memes to be real.
Also gooner zoophiles that grudgeship "Neo" Sage and Silver (forma de capa)
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>>567989367
Because the last time he showed up it was in Rivals 2, where he dies at the end.
If Rivals isn't canon, then Silver and Nega have never fought and shouldn't know each other.
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>>567989474
Lowercase v, you're great Vanilla

>>567989507
I was eating it as I was writing the post actually
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>>567989552
It is true. Its why Sparky keeps saying Blaze is "Nega-Sonic".
Without the Eggman Nega thing in place, Blaze gets seen as an isekai character rather than some alternate Sonic direct equivalent.
Its the reason blazefags even care about Nega.
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>>567989640
Sonic X Season 3
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>>567986659
Marine gets Magic element.
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>>567989183
No I don't believe you stop pretending you're him
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>>567989773
nothing wrong with asking for what you like
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I'm starting to realize Auraverfags have absolutely no interest in Sonic Frontiers
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>>567989502
Dumb Fionaposter of course it's a larp.
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>>567989962
Ah that!
the low budget 2000s anime
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>>567989183
Blueboardanon here. I'm also working at a factory now and i'm manufacturing ballistic missiles for the IDF. Netanyahu pays me really well but now I can only draw Israeli propaganda.
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>>567989692
>Because Nega was Blaze's villain first
Well T-O-O BAD, Blazetendie.
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>>567989790
>he dies at the end.
just like all the other times eggded died at the end.
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>>567990042
Holy degenerate Batman
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>>567990117
of course...
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>>567989183
Duofag here. I'm also working in a factory making dragon dildos and the plastic fumes gave me lymphoma.
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>Blazetendie
Do Silversnoys REALLY?
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>>567990319
Is Encore Mode even canon? (or Sonic Timeline™ canon, in this case?)
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>>567989183
do you have gay sex with your coworkers?
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I remember someone making an oc that tried to give Silver his own personal villain, had a creepy smile and beady eyes of some sort.
I keep on forgetting who it was though, i liked the idea tho.
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>>567980006
Next time
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Snoyver
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>>567989183
Whispercel here. I got a "job" breaking into fast food restaurants and drinking the grease reserves and shitting on the bathroom floors.
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Nega never even made sense for Blaze as a villain. He doesnt fit the setting and they have no defined dynamic at all.
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>>567990737
Yes, Sonic Mania and Sonic Mania Plus (detailing Encore Mode) are separate parts of the timeline.
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>>567980749
We never forget
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>>567991174
Nega ragebaits Blaze.
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>>567991253
What a great story
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>>567990927
I want to say his name was General or Commander Sterling.
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>>567991396
Nega ragebaits everyone though.
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>>567989843
>It is true. Its why Sparky
I stopped reading here and have been re-typing out replies to this over and over again because I can't figure out how to properly convey how this post has made me feel.
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They're not going to use Sage as a villain for Silver anyways since Sega doesn't like to copy fanon concepts too closely and now it's everywhere
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>>567990737
Yep.
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Blaze forgot to shave and her whiskers grew out. Everyone thinks they're cute but nobody wants to say anything...
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>>567991496
Faggiest shit I've ever seen
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>>567991526
>[Blazefag.exe_has_stopped_working]
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This is Fionalarper. The original Fionafag died here, and I am their impostor because I wanted to give hope that they were ok. Press f
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>>567991663
Obligatory
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>>567991884
I thought i was the original, but i guess originality does not exist.
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>>567991496
I saw a guy wearing this thing yesterday, I think he got raped by a group of black teenagers or something
>>567991412
It's really the only time when Sonic was somewhat good, to state the obvious yes I do like preboot more
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>>567987119
NTA but was it confirmed?
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>>567991253
Remember when people thought the AM2 characters got graduated and unsealed only for it to result into nothing for the past decade?
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Freedom FARTers
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>>567991253
As much as I love this arc, it says a lot that this is the only one people really bring up as a good Archie arc.
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>>567992107
They took originality off the menu in 2012.
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So when is the next issue coming out so i have a reason to get mad at something?
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>>567992273
Remember when Bark had brown eyes because Rovio were sneaky bastards whose big dreams included Modernizing the Classic cast and we were all coping the scarf and body shape were different too but SEGA went NO NO NO NO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AS NIHONGO INTENDED?
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>>567992171
>>567987119
>>567986867
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/564415169/#q564429898
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>>567992273
Archie got raped so bad they turned into tumblr comics for gay white people. Sad
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>>567992862
He got raped to death, didnt he...?
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>>567992536
original or not, fiona shall live
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I asked ChatGPT who the most viable characters for a solo game were and here are the results

>Strongest commercial bets
1. Shadow the Hedgehog
2. Amy Rose
3. Knuckles the Echidna


>Moderate commercial potential
-Blaze the Cat
-Miles 'Tails' Prower

>Hardest sell commercially
-Silver the Hedgehog
-Rouge the Bat
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>>567991946
Come to think of it, Belle would fit nicely as the rare 'bot that goes under the Greenery Element. You can actually do something interesting with that. (Sage, I dunno "Magic" I guess?)
And I wouldn't say Amy is known for mysticism so much as intuition..
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>>567991174
Blaze is the furthest thing possible from Sonic but her enemy is still just "Eggman" recolor anyway but with an inverted goal.

I think it works.

Just not lore-wise because that's stupid and makes absolutely no sense if he's just from her world. He HAS to be Eggman's descendant or something.

Otherwise, I wouldn't bother with him and just use Eggman himself alone as Blaze's main villain. Make it feel like from Blaze's POV, Eggman has been HER villain all along, and Sonic is just an outsider getting in her way.
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I'm glad dragofaggot is gone. Avatarfags and off-topic spammers should be hanged.
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>>567992862
Thanks for the info stay safe dragofren wherever you are
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>>567993414
This guy must be hella fun at parties
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Tails is cute :D
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>>567993414
Don't you hate literally the entire general
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>>567992508
So? What you want me to say IDW is better
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The comics have never been anything more than a brand infiltration scheme.
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>>567993203
I'd move SIlver up to moderate. People are in that phase where they're unironic nostalgiafags for 06 (not the game, just the story/locations and Silver to an extent). But now would be the time to do it before that passes. In a few years he'll be back in that bottom category. Like people were REALLY excited for Mephiles and Kingdom Valley in Shadow Gens and that was just a few years ago. Otherwise, I think the list is probably about right.
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>>567993414
That's right! Das right... wait, i'm an avatarfag too...
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Silver's personal villain should be a Kaworu clone but psychopathically evil.

Manga Kaworu specifically.
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>>567993414
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Sonic Team is looking for a new writer for the Sonic series.
https://jp.indeed.com/m/viewjob?jk=dba0e49be1f446bb
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>>567994951
>Frontiers 2 is still so late in development
it's over
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>>567994432
Yeah I personally would bump him up as well.

According to ChatGPT, the reason he is so low is because of being associated with 06, which I dont think is as strong knock against him as it once was.


I found what it said about Tails interesting.

>Tails is iconic enough to sell copies initially, but there’s a weird issue: people often psychologically categorize him as “support character.”
He’s beloved, but not necessarily seen as “the guy.” A Tails game could absolutely succeed if it leaned hard into invention, flight, gadgets, and engineering creativity instead of imitation Sonic gameplay.

I found it interesting because I agree, yet Tails hard-core fans seem to be against this.


Knuckles is also interesting.

>Knuckles is extremely recognizable to casual audiences now thanks to the movies and TV exposure.
>The issue is less popularity and more gameplay identity. Historically, Knuckles games/spinoffs tend to drift into:
>-treasure hunting,
>-slower exploration,
>-lore-heavy Echidna stuff.
>That can work commercially, but it needs a strong gameplay hook. If marketed as an action-adventure game instead of “Sonic but red,” it could do well.

I agree with it but I dont know how much people would be down for a slower exploration focused game with him is the issue. It would make for an objectively solid game though.
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>>567994951
I'm assuming this is either the person who puts together the main story and hands it off to Ian and crew, or it's the guy who cleans up Ian and crew's script for the JP release, and not anyone who is going to write an entire game by themselves to be localized into other language. But I'd love to be wrong.
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>>567994614
I forgive you Fionastacy, you're fine.
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That means Frontiers will be at least 30% better than TotK, since they handed all the story writing for "the darkest Zelda game ever" to some kids show writers and not internally.
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>>567995203
I think it's probably right about Tails, because a lot of Tails biggest fans barely know his two solo game exist, and probably haven't even played them if they do. They mostly just want him along for the ride with Sonic all the time, which is fair because that's where he shines, I think. I'm guessing the reason it had Amy so high was just a big focus on her character between movie 4 and the end of Frontiers where people are basically expecting a solo game at this point so it's probably a more palatable idea.
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>>567994030
Fuck no. IDW is dire garbage.
The point is Archie sucked too.
There is no pedestal to put this shit on.
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>>567994951
>Game Scenario Writer
Plot, not the script
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>>567994951
There it is. A western fan got to work on the games for once, was met with praise for what he did, and gave the fans hope for the future.
and then the insecure Japs running that dogshit company decide to drop them and replace them with dumbfuck nips who don't even care about Sonic.
First the Mania devs
Now Flynn
Fowler is so damn lucky his movies make money or else he'd be gone too
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>>567995258
ok <3
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>>567988754
Sonamy is the cure to all the alphabet slop the franchise and fandom are currently suffering from
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We've never had an ongoing comic where Sonic was in-character
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>>567995534
>Ian Flynn got fired
Good?
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>>567993203
Shadow and Knuckles are pretty hard to do nowadays because you have to satisfy both Iizuka AND Penders' autism. (although now I think of it, "Shadow & Knuckles" would actually be a kickass concept.)
Tails has a few games. You can remake Tails Adventures and it's probably sell decently.
If you tap hard into Sol Empire lore, Blaze may have the most potential out of the characters who haven't had a solo spinoff. Potentially Silver if you make a Sonic CD style adventure.
Get Amy and Rouge outta here lol
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>>567995534
This means they can give it to the JP Krack now, why be angry over this?
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>>567995723
Amy looks better with glasses.
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>>567995203
>I asked ChatGPT
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>>567995534
>decide to drop them
God, I fucking hope so. With every fiber of my being. Please, please, please...
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>>567995534
>Ian fired
God I wish, and they'd just hire an idiot that is as bad as him. Pontacc was shit, Iaan was shit, Big bubba ain't gonna fix the series.
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>>567995446
Here's what it had to say about Amy

>Amy has quietly become one of SEGA’s safest characters.
>Why?
>She’s consistently present across media.
>She appeals to multiple demographics.
>Modern portrayals made her more broadly likable.
>She has huge merchandising and visibility value.
>An Amy-led game would probably need:
>strong aesthetics,
>emotional adventure vibes,
>accessible gameplay,
>and a strong identity beyond “girl Sonic.”
>But she has the mainstream recognizability to pull it off now in a way she probably couldn’t 15 years ago.


I think it helps a lot of people believe Amy was at her best when she was leading in her own story rather than just fawning over Sonic.
The biggest factor I think is just being pink girl sonic is just very easily marketable.

I think something that probably doesnt cross people's mind is her name not having "the hedgehog" in it probably harms her marketability lol.
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Hire Penders.
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>>567986659
Doubling the elements for team variety is a pretty smart idea. Anyone up for making concept symbols?
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>>567996147
If Ian got fired even with the new writer was good I know they'd be shat on for not being Ian, I think his fans are autistic enough to shoot at anyone replacing him and prop back that he needs to comeback.
And if Ian got fired I wouldn't shocked if it was something more internal drama that ruined his relationship with Sonic Team, like trying to write in Mobious to many times resulting in Iizuka trapping and betraying him for his sins.
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>>567995534
Mania devs not making more games was a mistake.
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>>567995723
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>>567994951
Cool
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>>567996315
That's why you give it a name like this.
https://fractalcherries.itch.io/amy
Also I hate that part about making her more broadly likeable, because I feel like her current lobotomized personality can't move a game on its own.
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>>567996524
That's on them for getting tumblr to make their speedy 3D World clone
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How many times do you autists have to be told that you can't "fire" Ian? He is a freelancer! The Wind Incarnate.
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>>567995395
>some kids show writers
Huh?
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>>567996524
>>567995534
Mania was the only real fumble, they could have shat out $25 Classic games for cheap, and good quality, but Sega is addicted to failure so they made $60 Classic game that probably costed way more to make, and were shocked it didn't sell a billion copies. What a bunch of dumbasses. Victory was there and snatched defeat.
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>>567996698 (Me)
Forgot pic
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Nobody read my Mega Man Zero comic...
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>>567996935
did ian even play mmz
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>>567997002
Ian doesn't play video games, he plays songs and then writes the lyrics as dialogue.
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>>567997002
There's no fucking way. He doesn't even play Sonic, MMZ would wreck his ass.
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>>567997002
He wouldn't get past the grand filter boss in Zero 1
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>>567996698
>spoiler
Agreed. But at the endnof the day, the memes around it did make a lot of people look back on how she always was more fondly. So it'll correct itself eventually. Stay strong Amyfriend
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>>567995723
Posts like this is why Iizuka and Kishimoto openly talk about trying to appeal to non-Sonic fans lol.
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>>567991018
Aye, next time.
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>>567997219
>>567996698
If Silver can get closer on track Amy can get back up from this.
Never give up your HOPE
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>>567997219
I hope so. I'm pretty sure everyone still considers her part of Frontiers to be the worst. I can't imagine a whole game of that.
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>>567995723
If Amy couldn't get her own game, the patron saint of unemployment has no chance. That's why he had to be shoehorned into a Sonic game in the first place.
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When will the fandubs get nuked off YouTube by Sega?
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>>567997119
>>567997138
>>567997209
K
E
K
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>>567993203
>Amy
>commercially viable
Guess we can rule out artificial "intelligence" lmao
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>>567980623
>sonic dumped in a shitty test level
Didn't we just get frontiers?
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>>567997385
Elias needs to fuck off and let me take his place right there
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f Sonic Team can't find a Japanese script writer since there are very few Sonic fans in Japan, then Sonic Team needs to hire someone in the west that actually cares about the characters and doesn't have an agenda to change them
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Eggman should get his own game instead where he tries to take over the world but ends up saving it from the evil he unleashed. Make Eggman Truly badass and goofy.
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>>567997993
They could hire Imada

>>567998002
Cool idea
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>>567997993
>someone in the west
>doesn't have an agenda to change them
These are mutually exclusive, sorry. Westies are rotten from the inside. Japanese writer or bust.
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>>567996416
I found..this, but I don't know what I'm looking at.
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>>567998079
He's a good option. He's not even a Sonic fan and has only been writing the Blade of Courage manga for a short while now yet he knows how to write Sonic better than Ian Flynn
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>>567997429
Thanks Silverfriend!

>>567997432
Amy's part of Frontier part is bland because they don't do anything with Sonic and Amy's dynamic on top of Amy's character being flattened. Amy technically does Amy "things" but it doesn't feel like Amy doing it so it doesn't hit like it should.

It always feels like Amy is neutered the entire time, like the writing is more concerned with not fucking up rather than doing anything fun or memorable with her.

I think its telling that Knuckles and Tails have all these lines about their past and stuff but Amy doesn't really have any because the writing is afraid of and seemingly ashamed of her history.

I think that's what bothers me most as an Amy fan. I'm tired of her character having to written like a silent fear of for herself.
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>tfw you realize Ian was actually just a place holder and They were making Imada write a manga about Sonic to train him
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>>567997983
Be a good boy and kiss them both.
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>>567996416
>>567998530
This is a terrible idea. The current 3 character set up makes it so you can very seamlessly switch to whatever formation you need to keep the gameplay flow snappy.
3 extra character types would make it clunky as fuck.
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>>567997983
I'll take him
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>>567998746
For sure
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https://pug.5ch.io/test/read.cgi/famicom/1771751270
JP fans are talking about the new writers being hired now
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>>567998964
I'll take Bunnie.
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>>567997910
After 22 years of shit games, no one is commercially viable except barely sonic. Even Shadow couldn't actually get his own game. It's a dlc.
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>>567997946
Way to miss the entire point by an inch
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>>567997432
>>567998662
Her dialogue was shit but her gameplay was decent. Just scrap the voice acting like Nintendo does.
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>>567998662
>I think its telling that Knuckles and Tails have all these lines about their past and stuff but Amy doesn't really have any because the writing is afraid of and seemingly ashamed of her history.
It really is obvious when you go back after playing the rest of the game. They really just couldn't be bothered. And it's really stupid, too, because Ian writes in that dumbass line about her being the one to save him someday while he couldn't even bother to talk about how far she's come since CD.
>I think that's what bothers me most as an Amy fan. I'm tired of her character having to written like a silent fear of for herself.
Yeah, I don't like this feeling that they're trying to just pretend she never happened and this is how it always was. She had too many good moments based on her old (still current JP) personality. It sucks.
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>>567999119
His DLC was peak though and CHADow will open up the Sonic Universe.
Soon our World will be ready for Shadow The Hedgehog 2 and once it happens we will never be the same.
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>>567998935
The idea is that Speed, Flight and Power types don't HAVE to always be Tornado, Thunder and Flame. You can keep the former three the exact same while mixing up the elemental affinities.
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>>567998935
The 3 character set up was already clunky. Flight and power sucked and were just there to get past arbitrary roadblocks
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>>567998662
>>567999279
Amy's writing is only problematic in the English version. Her true character is preserved in the Japanese version. I'm obviously not at all happy with this. It's an unfair to people who don't speak Japanese and it clearly exhibits how incompetent Sonic Team is.
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>>567999483
Don't worry, they are hiring Japanese writers for the next Sonic game
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>>567999468
Flight was so OP that you could use it for everything but roadblocks. It was usually better at fighting than Power.
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Hot take for western fans.
Game Sonic Japanese and should be Japanese as that's what it always was.
If ya want an American Sonic that should go to comics and shit, stop trying to infect everything like a virus.
Just give me GAMEnic.
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>>567999650
This is happening maybe a month after I sent my complaint to Sega about wanting Sonic to be primarily written by Japan again. It's most likely a conclusion they would reach without needing feedback, though I still am pretty happy and curious if I made any difference.
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God. Metal Sonic is so fucking cool, holy shit.
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I wouldn't mind IDW and Archie being ooc if their fans didn't go "well now Sonic is an actual CHARACTER instead of just the wind"
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>>567998530
These aren't even elements, these look like character specific ui
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>>567999959
Yes. Sex with him, NOW
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>writers for the next game
>recruiting writers for the next game
>recruiting
>the next game
They didn't ALREADY WRITE THE NEXT GAME? ????????????????
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>>567999024
>linking to Japanese Reddit
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>>567999429
This.
Like for example, if Blaze were in a Heroes style game, she would be Speed/Fire type.
Movement=/=Element.
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>>568000152
That can't be right...
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>>568000152
Maybe it's the one after it.
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>>568000152
>>568000279
1 game a decade and you'll like it
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>>568000152
>what is planning in advance
Retard
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>>568000279
bun
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Was it proven that Ian had the least influence over Shadgens?
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>>567999935
I also sent one to Sega at the beginning of May telling them that I don't like how Amy is being changed in the English scripts and I told them that I want the English and Japanese scripts to be closer in wording and meaning for the sake of character consistency. I also included screenshots of the Amy's dialogue differences between the English and Japanese versions.
I also like to think that I contributed to Sega's decision of hiring Japanese writers for the next game
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>>567999279
They should scrap all of modernshit and start over
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Woke millenial feminists ruined Amy.
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>sonic frontiers (2022)
>shadow generations (2024)
>sonic frontiers 2 (2028)
>Shadow Unleashed (2030)
>sonic warriors (2035)
>Sonic Dream Team console edition (2037)
>Sonic warriors 2 (2040)
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>the feedbackformanons were real
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>>568000668
I remember when people were trolling and trying to demoralize, kek. We won
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>>568000668
This but unironically.
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>>568000668
Based.
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>SoJ hires new writers
>They want to include Surge
>Upon reading her bio and glancing at some comic panels they understand that Surge is tsundere for Sonic
>Surge is introduced as a love interest for Sonic
>Amy remains Sonic's bestie
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>>567999468
Filtered unplayer take. The same people that day this complain about always falling and slipping and enemies having health bars.

This is the problem with Sonic. People are addicted to going fast all the time.
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>>568001286
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KILL THAT SHITTY RAT
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>>568001357
That person hates Sonic btw.
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>>568000279
Most kissable rabbit
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>>568001581
Vanilla?
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>>568000996
>>568001114
I had to speak up. If I didn't, nothing would change. Hopefully this means that Sega keeps a tight leash on Ian now

>>568001012
You also included links to videos where people criticize how Amy is written in the English version?
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>>568001695
That's the most impregnateable.
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>>568000930
>He thought we weren't pissed off enough to actually do it.
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>>568001768
I expected it to be sent to a spam box, but I might speak up if this works.
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>>568001768
>You also included links to videos where people criticize how Amy is written in the English version?
If you remember it, I'm the one that made a post elaborating on what I put in mine some time ago, before the one guy started paraphrasing it as a shitpost. I said I didn't want to give a list of links so that everyone's message didn't feel like a copy of each other's but suggested putting a personal list together since there are a ton to pick from. I had like a dozen or so in mine from a mixture of both male and female fans who weren't happy with the direction she was being taken in.
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>>568000930
>he thinks we were joking
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>>567999483
Her characterization is good is more herself in Japanese, but her dialogue is still pretty weak. No callbacks to how she saved the Flicky in SA1 or how she helped Cream and Big find Chocola and Froggy. Or how she broke Sonic out of prison. The stories with the Koco seem like direct parallels to her SA1 and Heroes story threads in particular but nothing.

This is a problem people have with writing female characters in general in modern day where they worry too much about "not stepping on landmines" over actually writing the character.
Ironically its the same issue WonderWoman has.

Somehow Lego Dimensions does a better job. Somehow.

https://youtu.be/jyjGMGufI00?t=25
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FLYNNSHITTERS LOST
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>>568002293
>This is a problem people have with writing female characters in general in modern day where they worry too much about "not stepping on landmines" over actually writing the character.
I've posted it before, but it's always worth posting again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq1QcNplAYA&t=1804s
You can hear the way Ian and Evan talk about writing Amy and everything immediately makes sense about why she isn't written as girly and excitable and hot-headed as she used to be.
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I didn't want Ian to lose his job I just wanted him to stop writing everyone OOC
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>>568002648
>I just wanted him to stop writing everyone OOC
mission impossible
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>>568001927
Go ahead and make your voice be heard. Make sure to be constructive in your feedback message as well and to include screenshots for evidence to make your point

>>568002050
I didn't include links to the videos since I believed it to be pointless because Sega already monitors social media but I'm glad you did include them yourself.
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>>568002648
anon, he has been hired to write sonic for 20 years, he had time to get better and chose not to. this is his doing.
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>we're getting a new writer
They better be good or else I'll hold back my tears as I take another blackpill of reaffirmation that nothing is changing
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>>568002537
no anon you can't blame woke that's uncool stop nooooo!!!
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>>568000590
No
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>>568002834
>I didn't include links to the videos since I believed it to be pointless because Sega already monitors social media but I'm glad you did include them yourself.
I genuinely didn't expect them to look at any of them, I just figured a big enough list that they could confirm were all videos about Amy (maybe machine-TLing some of the video titles) was enough to show how big of a problem it was. I needed a visual example of how bad the discussion had gotten.
>>568002293
>Somehow Lego Dimensions does a better job. Somehow.
This is neat and honestly does way more for her than any Sonic game has in ages. Like they're going overboard on her personality and I won't knock it because that's the point, but it feels more like a Sonic fan wrote this than someone who just checked a wiki.
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>>567996562
I dont think a japanese job listing is going to have huge impact on the english stuff.
It may trickle down in that if they make better scenarios than flynn or whomever dont make an ass of themselves as much when writing dialogue.
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>>568003038
I blame ALL OF YOU! YOU STUPID FUCKING KIDS RUINED THE WORLD! AND SONIC!!
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>>568003012
Game Scenario to be more specific >>567996562
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wanting big boobs in games is misogyny

censoring big boobs in games is also misogyny

my worldview is very consistent
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>>568003012
We're in a "Get worse" decade, if he's not bad we risk to break the cycle of sufference.
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>>568003276
The current meta is you can't have small boobs anymore.
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>>568003310
Looks like it's the bukkake that made him haunted
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>>568003321
Filling her with penis and telling her cute she is until her smug head inflates with wicked smugness.
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>>568003276
Got milk?
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Tails
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>>568003371
wanting different body types is misogyny

but women having the same body types is also misogyny

my world view is very consistent
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>>567996562
So what happened to guy that had that position before (on the japanese side)?
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>>568003310
So deep and complex! I love my hecking Sonic trauma! He should go to therapy and fuck Shadow!
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>>568003445
wha?
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I also sent feedback to SEGA more than once, and a friend of mine in East Asia went to one of those official Sonic fanmeets that takes fanletters and gave a physical letter criticizing Western style writing, giving examples for several characters. I hope they actually make all regions have the same script again, but I'll believe when I see it. I wouldn't get too excited.
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>>568003276
I'm more of a big boob misogynist, personally.
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>>568003581
game writing is mainly contract work, it's just that you have a possibility of getting your contract renewed if they want you back. his contract ended a long time ago
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>>568003581
Junpei Outsu wrote the scenario of Sonic Frontiers and he was also a designer for that game. They probably didn't have a dedicated position
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Sonic 1 without spin dash is peak
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>>568004095
It's ok I guess. The game doesn't make use of it's physics a lot so the absence of a spin dash didn't change how I played the game much
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The reason why women's views on what is misogyny are inconsistent is because women want to control men's access to (fictional) women. If the men are high value they love it. If the men are low value they hate it. It has nothing to do with the content itself.
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>>568003128
I told Sega that the Japanese scripts do a very good job at writing at characters correctly and that I want the English scripts to resemble them in wording and meaning. I also told them that Shadow's story in Shadow Generations had English and Japanese dialogue that were very similar to each other in wording and meaning which is something I'd like to see in future games

>>568003747
Nice. In my feedback message, I pointed out how from 1998-2010, the games were written by a Japanese writer and that differences in the Japanese and English dialogue were minimal since the games only required translation but that this changed starting in 2010 since American writers were now writing the script and Sonic Team would then localize it into Japanese, which resulted in major and undesirable dialogue differences.
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Surge loves Sonic
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Point and laugh at the doubters who tried to stop it
Flynnfags BTFO inside, outside, through the stratosphere!
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>>568004687
total westfag death
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>>568004502
Have you tried press left and right on the d-pad? Sonic 1 is all about acceleration and deceleration
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>>568000796
Indirectly. I don't think Amy's writing is because of woke millenial feminists themselves. But there is a sort of chilling effect >>568002648
I d9nt think he was fired. He is a freelancer.
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>>568004687
What do you think the emails caused Sonic Team to search for a new writer? Because Flynn probably isn't going anywhere. He'll still handle dialogue
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>>568004643
>I told Sega that the Japanese scripts do a very good job at writing at characters correctly and that I want the English scripts to resemble them in wording and meaning.
That's actually what I tried to push as the message of mine, that SoJ did a better job with character consistency and I'd like to see SoJ and SoA work together more closely on that.
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Man, you guys really love your windnic
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>>568005214
brapnic
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>>568005062
Yeah you kind of do that in every platformer
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>>568005190
I think there's a 50% chance Flynn will be let go from the game scripts. Maybe they will look for a new guy or try to brute-force Flynn's writing to match their scripts which will make him bitch and moan on his podcast. Japanese fans know how many people hate Flynn and want Japanese Sonic back according to >>567999024
We'll have to wait and see.
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>>568005521
It has already been confirmed that the process of script writing goes through a triage process between SoA and SoJ many times before being approved. Also a scenario writer just writes the story concepts and the lays out how it's supposed to go. Then the script guy writes dialogue for the scenes. There's really no reason to remove Flynn
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>>568005521
There's a less than 5% chance that they would move that fast to let him go. What's more likely is this was planned for a while due to getting additional funding after the success of Frontiers, and realizing they do need to hire one >>568004037
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>>568005890
There's no reason not to get a new guy either, since this is all contract work. They can do so easily
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Flynn is going to be let go. This has been simmering for a long time.
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>>568005890
>process of script writing goes through a triage process between SoA and SoJ many times before being approved.
No wonder it's so shit, imagine how much stuff they change in this latency ending up with plotholes.
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>>568005989
I guess I just don't see how Sonic Team hiring an overall unrelated position means that Flynn will be removed
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>Flynn is let go
>Sonic Team starts writing the scripts themselves
>we get woke Gen Z localizers
worst timeline
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>>568005468
Most platformers have near instant acceleration and deceleration unlike Sonic
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>>568006445
Looking forward to arcs about Sonic mogging Tails with his looksmaxxing and low cortisol adventures with his transchad bestie Amy
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>>568006445
>things are bad
>lets try to change things for the better
>things get a lot worse
every time
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>>568006445
>woke gen z
Don't try to shift blame, flyinn is a shitty yurinigger millennial who wanted to push for this.
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>>568006445
Ian Flynn already is a woke millennial
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>>568005890
>a triage process between SoA and SoJ many times before being approved
While this is true, you know that deciding to have the English side be the source of your script complicates things much further when the game is being developed in Japan, right?
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NOT SO FAST
>Japan writes the script
>flyinn the sjw is btfo
>AI replaces localizers
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>>568007001
Not when the main guy at Sonic Team lives in the USA
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Tails!
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>>568006708
>>568006824
Gen Z is worse.
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>>568007098
Okay? The game is being developed in Japan.
The unfitting animations and expressions in that infamous Sonic and Knuckles cutscene are proof that a lot of wires were crossed and they didn't portray the script very well at all.
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>>568006351
okay bro
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I hate people who say Knuckles has braids
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>>568007189
Gen z at least is too retarded to infiltrate in every industry just to push an autistic idpol ideology like every feminist millennial did for 10 years.
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>>568007189
You are 40 years old btw
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>>568007349
>optic uuuuu
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>>568007436
This is only true because gen z can't get a job in the first place
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>>568007323
I don't know what you're trying to prove. Not every Sonic game goes through the same writing process especially after 2009
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>>568007584
Add to it their political background is taken from their social media feed instead of reading any book. They're all dumb like rocks left and right.
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>>568007807
Why would I read the communist manifesto when I can just wait for the movie adaptation?
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>>567996814
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>>567997993
Does it HAVE to be one? For Japan at least. They even had Clamp to briefly write a Sonic 4koma for a bit
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FLYNN IS DONE
WINDFAGS ARE NUMBER ONE
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>>568007189
Gen Z is Millennial Part 2
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>>567997993
He's called Ian Flynn, and he's not changing them, he's just reversing retcons that made them OOC (windfaggotry), or following mandates set down by Japan (Amy).
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>>568006703
Is that.....UwUdow???
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>>568003706
You heard me! This is Fiona's fate!
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>>568005890
>>568007001
>>568007098
What explains the English and Japanese dialogue being so different even though Iizuka lives in California? Is he approving this, including what's happening to Amy?
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>>568008341
Gen Z 1 is Millennial Part 2
Gen Z 2 is doomer central consumerism
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>>568007898
>the bum manifesto
It's not mainly because of reading X book, it's also the will to confront ideas with other factions and draw conclusions. I had to go through a lot before stopping being a communist, because i recognized there are certain economic forces you can't control with a state.
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Better devs when
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>>568008563
Iizuka is too busy sucking off MisterCrits and the rest of the Lore Team to notice anything. He will let the gaijin do what they want.
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>>568008189
The more Japanese writers the better
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>>568008697
We have Kishimoto bro
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>>567986659
>>567984752
>Tails
>Not wind
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Tails is the dust kicked up by the wind, trailing behind it no matter how far the wind runs from it.
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>>568009078
What's the top screenshot?
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>>568009289
He's more like the wind turbine
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>>568009492
Superstars. It's his white emerald power in that game.
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>>568009385
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TMOSTH was Shadamy slop that made Shadow OOC
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Bun!
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>>568005205
Yes. If Ian Flynn isn't being let go, then the very least Sonic Team can do is keep a close on him when he's writing in order to protect the characters
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>>568010373 (me)
*a close eye on him
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>>568010127
Not even hardcore VNfags talk about that one
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>>568009078
Honestly wind makes more sense, with the exception of Thunder Shoot anything electric comes from his gizmos.
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>No Toyoda writing for Sonic
you guys keep losing.
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>>568009385
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>>568010127
Sonic.....
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>>568010759
Sonic Battle is retarded and just Jupiter Corporation throwing shit on the wall anyways.
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Mania faggots lost
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>No Toyo writing for Sonic
/dbs/ just keep losing.
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>>568010759
His gizmos are his thing though. This is kinda like saying "Amy's wind only comes from her hammer.".
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My penis is almost healed and ready for mobian wank fest
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What do you call someone who yearns for something impossible?

Insane? Delusional?
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>>568011167
top 3 favorites to wank to?
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>>568010797
Japanese people are good at writing games and anime.
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>>568011257
Cream
Marine
Honey
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I just had sex
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>>568011381
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>>568011459
What was his name?
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>>568011459
The man's name?
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>>568011316
>All Japanese can write good anime and videogames
>Let's ignore all the times they wrote straight garbage
You guys just keep losing like the losers you were born as.
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>>568011381
This but I aged them up.
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>>568011180
Human
https://youtu.be/VT6LFOIofRE?si=f8Nmt8vgDgMIuSex
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>>568011459
but does he like sonic?
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>>568011459
..... with my hand.
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>>568011459
was his ass nice
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>>568011606
It is human to be stupid, then yes.
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>>568011459
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>>568011496
>>568011517
Elias.
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This heat is more opressive than my father
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>>568011316
>no funny.jpg
You're not him
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>>568012095
how much today? It was 88 here
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>>568012302
Central Commiefornian?
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I'm tired of pretending to hate JP purists. Literally everything they say is true and logically consistent. I've been holding onto cope for so long but I can't fight against it anymore.
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>>568012095
you know how hot water bottles make you warm? well, fill one half-full with water and freeze it. obviously you should make sure it's watertight and dry before getting into bed with it. it's like a ... cold water bottle. #anonstoptip #hotweather
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I'm tired of pretending to hate retro purists. Literally everything they say is true and logically consistent. I've been holding onto cope for so long but I can't fight against it anymore.
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>>568012432
No, fromage & baguette land
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>>568012095
>Mayor Fink: Oh, please! Mr. Mayor's my father. You can just call me Mayor.
>Dr. Eggman: Eggman is my father. You can just call me Dr. Eggman.
The esl wikiautist who didn't understand the joke.
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I'm tired of pretending.
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How do we feel that in sonic speed simulator surge's boss battle has interaction between her and the following characters Sonic, Amy, Silver, Blaze, Big, Tangle, Whisper, all of Eggman's Robots (Including Omega), and Shadow (during the fight)
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>>568012660
*beating you with a stick* Don't! Use! Freedom! Units! It only encourages them!
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>>568012461
>I've been holding onto cope for so long but I can't fight against it anymore.
Why though?
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>>568012996
AHHHHHH PARDONNE MOI MONSIEURRRR
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>>568012920
Team sex
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Now let that be a lesson to the rest of you
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>>568011136
His name is Tails though, not Gadge--
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>>568012959
Am I supposed to think anything of it?
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>>568012959
>sonic speed simulator
Isn't this the roblox game?
You need to be 18+ to be here, anon
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>>568013069
Every major voice in the community dunks on JP purists. The culture right now is to say that Sonic is an American franchise. I believed them for a while. A part of me also doesn't want to be on the ostracized side.
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>>568012003
Tails will never have canonical (videogames) love interest, unless there would be a woman in her late 30's writing up the plot for a game
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>>568013336
>You need to be 18+ to be here, anon
>implying there aren't 40 year old men playing roblox to groom children
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>>567999024
Oh no no no Rogerbros
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would ivo look good with a beard
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>>568012241
I'm a larper
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>>568013503
Girls don't play videogames, stupid.
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>>568013579
Being groomed is a skill issue.
If you never learned "stranger danger" or "dont' give out personal info on the internet" then that's on you
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>>568003371
So age is irrelevent. If she has small boobs, you are somehow a pedophile to payment processors.
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>>568013673
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>>568013503
Fiona...is Canon...
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>>568013778
No, it's on the parents for not paying more attention to their little 10 year old timmy.
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>>568013252
>>568013336
here's a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msvZde82f2w
>>568013252
considering this place crashes out over anything and everything I would of thought something like this would be worthy or rage fuel.
>>568013503
meanwhile knux has had 3 four if you count Tikal
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>>568013420
>Every major voice in the community dunks on JP purists
Really? Not the impression I got.
>The culture right now is to say that Sonic is an American franchise.
I legit was under the impression this is purely archiefag cope and even normie fans understand Sonic is at least some mix of both.
>A part of me also doesn't want to be on the ostracized side.
Can you give examples of things JP Purists were correct about?
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>>568013778
>Being groomed is a skill issue
*sthg theme music starts playing*
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Sally vs Surge
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>>568014053
>ai
die
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>>568014598
that's not AI
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Super Sonic Racing
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The jpfag fears the fangames
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>>567989962
I mean, it's on par with the DMC anime
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>>568014010
>meanwhile knux has had 3
I mean chicks dig you when you're the last of something.
>four if you count Tikal
I wish, but in what way is Tikal a love interest for Knuckles? You get more shipfuel from Tails and Amy in the same game, there's nothing there.
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>>568014828
I sincerely think the ~take me theere~ part in Back in Time is one of the most beautiful Sonic music moments
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>>567991663
>Sega doesn't like to copy fanon concepts too closely and now it's everywhere
and didn't Ian say something about this anyways? Auraversloppers are wasting their time.
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>>568014559
Shadow and Sonic's wives fighting
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>>568014709
it fucking is
not just cause of the lighting and proportions, sonic has fucking sports tape on one hand for whatever reason, and the actual feet are textured completely differently
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This general needs more awkwardness and discomfort. Most fuckable anon?
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>>568015302
That's really just how feetymcfoot does things, his stuff looks uncanny
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>>568015302
FeetymcFoot makes all his stuff in Blender
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>>568015420
Sparky
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I know I can just emulate but I ordered a couple of old Sonic games just to have them in my collection and now they're lost in the mail. I spent an hour on the phone and no one knows where they went. They were supposed to be delivered yesterday.
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>>568015635
Good thing they were cheap and you didn't spend like $100 on some old cartridges
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>>568015514
Based
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>>568013867
>horoscopes which are a woman thing
thank you for proving my point
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>>568015194
Clearly not if it pisses you off this much.
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>>567997002
Ian seems more of a Mega Man X fan than Zero desu
Also if he so much saw what Inti Creates is doing nowadays, he's going to do backflips back to his humble abode and forget everything he saw.
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>>568015726
No it was cheap, but it still sucks.
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They will never put Auraver in a game
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>>568015916
Oh okay that sucks then sorry anon, hopefully they show up in some sorting office
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>>568015635
That sucks man. I hope they just show up late.
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They will put Silver in a game.
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>>568015806
Go finish your shitty fangame, hoodver retard.
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>>568015930
Like all the retarded talking points this place has, you can't even define auraver.
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>>568015930
I hope SEGA do their own thing and not copy what the white foid (Uwu) and brown twitter people (Aura) want out of Silver
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>>568016148
>Like all the retarded talking points this place has
Holy cope.
Which fag are you? Uwu or Aura?
I'm on the JP side who think ST should prove they can cook better than what the twitterfag can. You're just a mouthy faggot.
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>>568016432
You sound offended
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>Janitor applications are now open. Apply here!
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I can't self insert if they don't give back the ages
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>>568016009
>>568016051
I'm not expecting much. The person I talked to at the local postal office said that the usual driver split their route with someone else yesterday and supposedly that person delivered it but they can't confirm and the status was never updated to delivered. So no one has it and no one knows where it is.
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>>568014126
>Really? Not the impression I got.
Sam Procrastinates defended IDW against JP purists, wallaceprower made a video making fun of people who hate IDW characters in CrossWorlds. It's an easy and normal thing to dunk on.
To answer your question, ultimately, I couldn't argue against the idea that Sonic is Japanese because it's primarily a video game series made by Japanese developers with Japanese sensibilities. Sonic being made "for the West" doesn't apply since they make an effort to appeal to Japan as well especially with Frontiers. Plus, there's that interview where Makino says Sonic is for the world, so by that logic Sonic would actually be a worldwide franchise that's not just a mixture of American or Japanese
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>>568016789
They're going through janitors like Ian goes through references
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and no, Auraver is not JPver
Aurafags hate JP because it's not le epic and tryhard enough, isn't reheating someone's nachoes, and is forcing Sage as Silver's new main villain.

They even straight up say Game Silver had no fucking personality, they're just degenuine UWUfags on a different extreme direction.

>>568016690
im offended from shitty sonictwt headcanon yes.
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IDW is vulnerabilityslop
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>>568016789
Please save /vr/, so tired of that "sega system" faggot.
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>>568016838
>Omori's creator is into underage incest rape.
Isn't that the usual Sonic fandom?
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Does anyone have the Bumblekast question where Ian explains that long Sonic speech is just Surge's perspective?
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>>568017195
I'd suck her dorito dust fingers.
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>>568017416
Only after marriage
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>>568017189
/vr/ was doomed by design. It's only a matter of time until PS3/360/Wii are retro. I'd argue they already are. It's only downhill.
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>>568016949
IDW/Archie fans are the worst because they want the whole franchise to be about their comics and don't care about anything else.
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>>568016838
>omocat
Reminder that sneaky stunt she did in Pollyanna
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>>568017625
It has to be destroyed to get better at this rate.
/v2k/ should have been made a long time ago.
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>>568017746
Never heard of this. What was the stunt?
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My husband Shadow.
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>>568016949
>Sam Procrastinates
People still watch him? Lol.
>wallaceprower
Who?
The entire "JP Purist" meme was started by salty Archiefags anyway.

As for the rest, I have a thing for Japanese media made eith Western sensibilities. Sonic is such an example. Sonic is ultimately still built on and out of Japanese ideas and sensibilities at their core and that core is the constant globally within Sonic's identity.

It's not even really about being a weeb to me, its about the truth. Its about the thing I ans many actually find compelling.

Frankly the persecution complex westfags have is weird given Americocentralism in general.
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>>568017734
>IDW/Archie fans are the worst because they want the whole franchise to be about their comics
Elaborate more on this
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Big titty echidna women
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>>568018128
But jp purism hurts Archie more than idw
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>>568017027
You remind me of thr Amyfags who hate BoomAmy but also hate Sonamyfags who care more about the ship than the characters.
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>>568017625
>It's only a matter of time until PS3/360/Wii are retro.
They already are, unc.
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>>568018231
They've always demanded their stuff become canon and included in the games but they really want the comic stuff to overwrite the games and think SegaSonic is nothing, a blank slate for them to paint over and not understand. It's always been like this.
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>>568018071
Rouge...
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>>568018619
Try reading my very next sentence, zoomer.
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>>568017978
See that design of Giygas? The official sprite is the white creature within the machine.
But the blue one is the genderbent invader zim looking motherfucker that's feature in so much jp mother 1/2 fanart by Morphine (aka Chiyo & Yosuke).

Omocat specifically drew that one cuz she's a shotacon pervert.
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Sonic but it's written like Obsession
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>>568018438
Archiefags should have stayed in their lane instead of trying to infiltrate the game series.
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What do they do?
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She's right and you know it
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>>568018692
https://youtu.be/O0ikW7pVa_I?t=20
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>>568018971
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>>568018641
>They've always demanded their stuff become canon and included in the games
I have no problem with this

>they really want the comic stuff to overwrite the games and think SegaSonic is nothing, a blank slate for them to paint over and not understand
I do have a problem with this. Sonic should be the games first made by the japanese, and it's core acknowledged as where any other media needs to bend to it
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>>568018920
I think they only supervise the art, not the writing
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>>568019087
IDW and Archie fans on average don't understand that their comics are secondary to the games.
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>>568019087
>I have no problem with this
NTA but I do. I don't believe those things are compatible.
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>>568018707
It looks a lot more like lighting than a separate individual.
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>>568019409
It's the same character but female.
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>>568019332
Because they dont play the games and resent the fact the games are the core because they aren't approachable. Many of them dont even like playing vidya.
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>>568019282 (me)
Correction: Eitaro Toyoda supervises the writing since he's a writer. The rest of the people there supervise the art
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>>568019406
Some things aren't, like Sonic having family members, but a lot of things only need minor tweaking
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>>568018707
Not him but I really want to bitch about how fucking weird it is that people sexualize Giegue/Giygas.
That alien motherfucker is beyond broken on an unfathomable level and that's how people are going to render him in their minds? Makes me fucking seethe like hell.
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>>568018658
Shadow doesn't love Rouge.
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>>568019629
Like? Even the things that can be tweaked would be adding even more bloat the series really doesnt need more of.
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>>568019332
As much as I love dunking on Archiefags, the fact the series had been going since 1992, almost the length of the entire franchise, does give them more credit than any other Sonic media.
So they are secondary, but it's a very close secondary, while everything else is, or should, be much further away in relevance.
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>>568018971
>she
lmfao I can tell this is a man immediately
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>>568019663
Which is why the artist felt accomplished and abandoned the front, because too many weirdos are invested on Chiyo's fringe fanart spree.
She's just drawing gay post-5Ds Yu-Gi-Oh art nowadays.
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>>568019837
NOOOOO BOBBY IS FEMALE YOU CHUD
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>>568019775
>bloat
I have no interest in anything you have to say
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>>568019608 (me)
I think Eitaro Toyoda only supervises the Japanese script even though he does speak English. This begs the question, if he supervises the Japanese script to make sure the characters are written correctly, then who supervises the English script? If I'm wrong, someone please correct me on that
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>>568019998
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Shadow should cry more.
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>>568020431
If he did all the time, it would make the times he does less meaningful.
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>>568019810
Archiefags aren't a very close secondary. It sold like 6k per issue. It's irrelevant and held up by balding 30+ year old nerds who can't accept that the franchise was never for them.
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>>568020431
*licks tear*
mmmmmmmmmmm, somehow sweet than salty.
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>>568020180
The comforting lie is the fearmongering spread by older fans of more characters showing up. I've seen the word used by every generation of fan only to be proven right... that they don't like Sonic as much as they claim to and grow angrier when the predictable happens, which is more characters being added to the franchise
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>>568018920(me)
The first time this position was featured in a Sonic game was Sonic Free Riders and Colors, and it was put in the English voice cast and QA section respectively. This was the first iteration of the Sonic Character Supervisors.
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Put Krack in charge
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>>568020431
Uuuuuuuuuuuu UUUUUUUU UUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUU MARIAAAAA AAAAUUGGGG NOOO NO NO NO MARIA DON'T LEAVE ME AGAIN UUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUU
He cries in the movie 3 and at the end of the manga too, but the former is too subtle to notice unless you really look closely at a 4K rip.
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I’m gonna rape Shadow
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>>568021158
Don't do this. I will put in a lot of hype and aura scenes and confirm baseless ships nobody likes Digimon-style.
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>>568021358
Sega (in Ian's mind)...
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>>568021358
It's too late. I already raped Shadow.
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The colors feel so wrong
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>>568021670
Ian...
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>>568021050
I don't have a problem with adding more characters to the franchise. I have a problem with dumping em en masses like we are collecting pokemon.


The comforting lie you tell yourself is that bloat isn't real. We spend enough time complaining about the existing cast being snubbed as is, friend.
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>>568021576
Digimon fans are still mad about that shit
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>>568021576
>>568021950
All of the canon digimon ships were good and made sense.
The people that hate them only do because it doesnt adhere to childish level patternfagging.
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Other than future/ sol characters I feel like we're maxed out on characters. Amy might be able to support another character.
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>>568021814
>pic
That's canon now
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>>568022073
They paired up characters who never even spoke
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>>568022397
So? go ask your parents if they were friends before they dated
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>>568021840
>friend
You're no friend of mine

>We spend enough time complaining about the existing cast being snubbed as is
Like I said, fear mongering
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>>568022345
We maxed out on heroic characters but we lack good villains that isn't Eggman related, I want Fang but he's stuck in the classic dimension
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>>568022510
Shut up digimon writer
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>>568022510
It's literally normal to be friends before you date.
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>>568022397
You mean the fans did?
Matt and Sora were dating in 02.
Yolei had an open crush on Ken since he was introduced.

Das it.
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>>568021138
It disappoints me that Sonic Team approved of all those jarring dialogue differences in Free Riders and Colors. The characters were written correctly in the Japanese versions but not the English versions
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I hate reality so much.
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>>568022821
Me too.
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>>568022397
They did interact though. That's just incorrect.
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>>568022821
Same, good thing I love rum and coke
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>>568022593
How about evil echidnas?
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>>568022821
>>568022839
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>>568022992
You're not getting back the Nocturnus Clan, ever
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that marine talk reminded me of times when we argued about whether shadow was a gun agent
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I can't believe there are faggots who enjoyed Prime
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The reason we are looking for a dedicated writer is because Ian Flynn rejected the offer to join the company outright. We want someone reliable on the day to day involvement with the brand and development team.
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Considering Sonic is based on Dragon Ball all the canon pairings SHOULD be absolute bullshit
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>>568022370
No one.... No one said it wasn't......
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>>568022567
>fear mongering
I dont know how to tell you this anon, but youre definitely afraid of something and it isn't me.
What is it you are afraid of?
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They should make an actually evil hedgehog
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I can't believe there are faggots who enjoyed 06
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>>568022854
i want to cuddle with this japanese version of kit so badly
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>>568023325
it's the only Sonic game I own desu
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I can't believe there are straight people that like SA1
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>>568023223
I'm not afraid of anything. I'm pissed about smarmy cunts saying there are too many sonic characters
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>>568023172
"Freelancer Immunity" finally bit the Canadian in the ass.
All fight, Mister Sonic Team Guy, how much Japanese do I need to speak?
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Was Shadow even aware that Sonic was the Iblis Trigger?
What if he thought Sonic was the villain. He always views him as a nuisance, an obstacle, not the actual threat
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>>568022610
>digimon writer
You're lucky there are no major biological siblings in Sonic
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>>568022752
They did the same thing with Team Sonic Racing.
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>>568023620
Why?
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>>568014010
>knux has 3
3 love interests? The closest thing he has to a canon love interest is sonic, not exactly a woman.
>hurr rouge
was never actually a thing
>hurr shade
vaulted
>hurr ariem
A software entity from mobileslop dimension, but probably the most plausible
>hurr tikal
a force ghost
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>>568023468
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>>568023620
The problem isn't too many characters, the problem is Sega are too incompetent and biased to juggle a big cast so that each characters gets time to shine
If you're not Sonic or Shadow then your fucked
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feet
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Shadow is the strongest
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>>568024178
Trve and fact-checked
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>>568023932
Anon, Sonic Heroes is still to this day the world record holder for most playable characters in a platformer at 12 characters total.
And fans regularly talk about adding more in a sequel.

Its not a SEGA exclusive thing. Most game devs don't "juggle large casts" like this to begin with.
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Why don't the guest characters talk? Shouldn't the Sonic ones talk at least? Tangle and Nine shouldn't be on the same level as Nights.
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>>568024107
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>>568023847
....Dougefag
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>>568022821
Just when things started to look up it took away more.
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Sonic Kinoes was a mistake.
The world wasn't ready for that much kino.
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>>568023790
And Sonic Forces and Frontiers. I hate that so much
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>>568014680
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Sonic Heroes was just Sonic 4 on drugs and in 3D
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>>568024301
Kirby Star Allies has 39 playable characters though.
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>>568024632
Sonic 4 was Sonic Heroes on SSRIs and in 2D
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What if Sonic did drugs
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>>568024301
You mean most game devs don't "juggle large casts" like this in 1 single game. Any game series can still have a large cast of characters while only using a few selective ones from game to game, not everyone at once
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>>568024107
Big feet.
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>>568018971
Well yeah. There's a pretty well documented phenomenon around how Gen Z is engaging in its chosen fandoms, notably around how black and white their outlooks are (hard categorization of things into good/bad, safe/problematic, etc.) and how they attempt to go all in on something to prove they have a place in the fanbase instead of just... enjoying it. And they're dominating the spaces where these discussions happen.
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>>568025008
He consumes speed
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>>568024859
As DLC/updates but I digress.
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>>568024389
Not giving Miku a hedgehog form was a huge fumble
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>>568025101
I saw Gen Z complaining about pokemon characters being "mischaracterized" in literal parodies and my jaw dropped
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>>568020869
>30+ year old nerds who can't accept that the franchise was never for them.
>never
My childhood franchise, you little faggot, fuck you.
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>>568020180
I forgot what the real version of this image even looked like. Everybody just posts the lovander, salazzle, lagiacrus edit.
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the fandom zoomer yearns for fascism
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>>568025009
No series does that either. Most characters that get introduced simply get introduced as one offs and then maybe make a cameo in the future.
Everyone accepts this. Sonic is the only series where people expect every character to get a "turn" being a lead character and getting top billing.
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>>568021576
Do most Digimon games suck so bad they put up with that shit still?
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>>568025008
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>>568025338
Well when franchise goes from Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, SA1, SA2, Heroes, the advance games, and 06, they really aren't to blame
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>>568023628
It is a nice to have but not required. It would come up during the job interview for this position
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Notice how
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>>568025882
Notice Deez Nuts
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>>568023130
Prime is the Daima of Sonic
I'll be surprised if they even get follow ups
Key jingling trash that ended up worse than what they promised.
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>>568025593
Sonic Heroes was a mistake. It was a major on boarding point for a lot of people and it shaped their perception that the point if the series was having a bajillion playable main characters.
And I say this as Sonic Heroes fan.

Advance games arent even really a good example since those games are just core 4+Cream.

Tails and Knuckles dont do anything in 06. Amy has literally 1 level and Blaze has 3 that are only saved from the fact they are very tacked on by the fact her gameplay is one of the few decent ones in the whole game.

Omega barely does anything but thats fine since he was literally made to be power type filler for Team Dark so no one complains.

I hate the "Sonic's shotty friends" meme as much as the next guy but it doesnt mean there wasnt some truth to it.
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>>568025008
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>>568026018
GTfetus....
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Next game will bring back super emeralds and hyper sonic/knuckles and super tails alongside them
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ChatGPT thinks this is what Sparky looks like. Based on his commissions bio and some other info.
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>Fuuuuuuck my shitty poomake isn't giving me traction, so im going to work on the mega man zilver wankery project
Kek
Hopefully his project gets scrapped like the rest of them
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>>568025338
That's because the Sonic series introduces these characters as playable with their own character arc and are also recurring and playable in games after
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>>568026290
who is this and what are you talking about
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>>568026154
>Hello Kitty windfags
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Story structure ruined character playability.
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>>568026232
Coooooope
not even a GTard btw, I'd be better off just throwing SS4 and Baby into a Super movie instead.
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>>568026258
Doubt it but would be cool.
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>>568026454
The quoted fag is the Sonic Rush ReRun dev
Same one that's just making a pointless remake with all the modern boostshitisms included instead of porting the game to PC.
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>>568026265
Cool logo.
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>>568026332
Fiest of all, that's not true. What arc did Cream have?
What about Charmy?
Omega?
Big?
Vector?
Storm?
Mighty?
Ray?
Fang?
Bean?
Bark?

Second of all, that's hogwash. Normally you introduce a character eith an arc so they can complete there arc and then we move on from them and do something else.
Thats what every series does. Its what Sonic did during thr Dark age with characters like Shara, Elise, Merlina, Chip, etc.
But people get attached to the idea that every scrimblo character needs to be some permanent major character in the series.
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>>568026474
aka moeshitters
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>>568026537
Not really. Most character's gameplay was simply not compatible with Sonic's.
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>>568026265
Why is Sparky black
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>>568026265
I actually made a OC based off Krack but i don't want Krack or Left SonicTwt to hunt my ass down over it.
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>>568026565
>not even a GTard btw,
Not fooling anyone
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Its like in Gen 6-7 when some people started saying they are probs gonna have to cut the national dex because there are starting to be too many pokemon and fans just insisted it isnt an issue and GF would never do it. And then they did.
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>>568027125
aw widdle baby gonna cry? seems like you made a big ol' stinky too. we gotta change that chunked up diaper of yours.
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>>568026565
based GTGOD
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>>568027269
>1025 of the little fuckers now
Damn, take a while to catch 'em all.
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>>568026854
This is why removing humans and trying to make the world only animal characters doesnt work btw. Because people automatically see the animal characters as major characters.
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>>568027269
Pokémon is one of the most profitable franchises in our existence. There is not a single excuse that will ever justify that other than laziness
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>>568000996
>>568001768
>>568002834
You talk like a redditor and I wouldn't be surprised if this were Slashy
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Silver the Hedgehog is an enbie icon.
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>>568027642
>Pokémon is one of the most profitable franchises in our existence
Yall really be saying this like a bunch of NPCs like this matters for jack.
Even from.just general game design standpoint, it isnt good for the game. Lil Timmy cant be expected to pick up Pokemon for the first time and know in advance what type Forretress is and ehat its stat distribution and ability are.
Its simply not good for the series long term.
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>>568027676
I don't use Plebbit and I'm not Slashy
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>>568025338
The real problem is Sega not giving some of their more popular characters their own spin-off series which would allow the use of the series extended cast without having to be about Sonic
When every single character needs to be around Sonic to be relevant then it does becomes character bloat
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>>568027642
>Pokémon is one of the most profitable franchises in our existence.
It's literally just doing the Hello Kitty strategy for video games.
It's not that impressive.
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>>568027676
Seethe Flynnnigger
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>>568028293
Wouldn’t it be the other way around since Pokemon usurped everything in significantly less time
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>>568019087
>Sonic should be the games first made by the japanese
You hate Mania and fangames.
You hate Sonic being good
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>>568028119
You wanna see a REAL flatty.
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>>568028119
hell yeah
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>>568028119
UUUUEEERRGGG
FLATERRRR
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>>568028293
>It's literally just doing the Hello Kitty strategy for video games.
This
Never forget what they did during the end of Pokemania. Don't let merchandising dictate your giant franchise, or you'll slopify in the process.
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>>568028442
You don't even believe what you're saying
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>>568028068
Then you're doing a pretty good job on falseflagging
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>>568028537
Sonic Team can't make good games anymore.
Need a replacement. New blood.
Real fans want this to happen.
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>>568027978
How is it different now than it was decades ago? Pokemon used to limited a nation’s Pokemon limit with 200 or so while having the players guess what type of Pokemon is before postgame hits
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>>568025635
Would we be expected to pal around with the "lore team"? I don't know...
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>>568028119
You forgot one.
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>>568028708
>>568028708
>>568028708
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>>568028398
You better not be a shitverfag.
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>>568028607
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>>568028423
No, it's just that but video games.
All the huge sales come from toys, that's what every corporation always look at for their snazzy new projects.
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>hating OPUSver
remove yourself from the green halls at once
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>>568023172
How much does it cost to get a license for a external Sonic game?
and if im pitching a game I want to work on to SEGA, do i go directly to HQ or SoA? or do i have to get lucky and get some special guy to help me around?
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>>568028204
>The real problem is Sega not giving some of their more popular characters their own spin-off series which would allow the use of the series extended cast without having to be about Sonic
The only character that can comfortably do that is Shadow. And when he does it, every other characters included just becomes his cheerleader.

Tails game wouldn't interest most people and he has no good dynamics outside of Sonic.

The Rogues were fine in Riders but the series died in favor of generic mascot kart slop.

Amy is a coin flip.

Knuckles has no extended cast. A Knuckles game would be introducing characters rather than using existing ones.
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>>568028701
That was back when there was only like 300-400.
Once you enter post game, now the floodgates are open. And you're jumping up 600+ creatures and counting.
All you want to do is accumulate and consume. TobyFox warned as about your kind.
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>>568029635
>Amy is a coin flip.
Amy is on a time limit from the Frontiers ending and the upcoming movie. It'll never work after that passes.
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>>568026783
Why would you port Rush to PC? It runs well on DS emulators
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>>568027106
Post it
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>>568032680
The same reason we're getting decomps of Sonic Advance games now
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>>568015512
Steel, my beloved.



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