>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>569661587
Reminder that Silver needs buffs.
The surrender button will not get you out of low elo.
venator weak btw
>Matchmaking just gets worse and worse with every updateHow do they do it?
Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
>sorry bro yamato built indomitable refresher you're just not allowed do midboss anymore haha
venator upplayers are really shit at this game huh
Venator is honest.
She's in
I shat myself
>>569769616I main Venator btw idk if that matters haha
the game needs a surrender button im seeker and trans btw
Whatsup bros it's *Eternus coach strimmer* here and if you're struggling to achieve success with S++ character Venator be sure to check out my coaching discord server
>>569769450>no porndotafags have no taste
>>569765170>look i gave up and we lostyou literally proved the point. absolutely poetic youre on warden too
>>569769224force everyone who got rankflated down the same amount of ranks they gained from the two times it happend and force every account made after the rankflation to be obscurus.
I'm selling discounted coaching sessions to passable tranniesSilver onetrick #2 NA btw
>>569769864I'm not going to post porn on a blue board
>>569769363This but eshift victor
>>569769864
Venator is an orange support. Can't carry because his gun scaling is mid and no escape. Can't front because shit hp scaling. That means he must be support who buys utility oranges and Weapon damage to play like a gun mage
>>569770102Whoops I meant to say I'm a Venator onetrick lol my bad I don't have 4chan+ so I can't edit posts
>>569769864Ever since we lost sorapoi, the dota art scene is hurting. There was one good Auroth animation recently I guess.
I think one critical mistake a lot of low elo players make is that they assume just because their team is making a bad play, that they shouldn't follow.In general, sure, don't int just because your team is. But in practice, you can typically solo swing some really terrible fights into wins. I feel like I get a ton of wins by just showing up to the pointless midburgerbawl and solocarrying the team fight.
>>569769183Yes, but hopeless games won’t waste my time anymore
>>569769412Venatards swear on their life he's bad and a very honest hero but as soon as you point out why he's not they goal post move every time and start insulting you because they're delusional
if any dota hero should get added it should be blueheart
>>569770346>sorapoihas done some deadlock art too
>>569769087Last Thread
>>569769914one year since rankflation and you still dont understand what it actually meant? no one magically had their mmr changed. in fact no ones mmr changed. nothing changed except how the badges reflect ones mmr. how are you this fucking retarded you dont understand this
>>569770276To expandNade=anti heal=supportGutshot=peel=supportTraps=zoning=supportBig fuck you ult=classic doto support ult, see lion
>hero has 55% or higher winrateThe hero is actually bad, you just need to buy counter items and me saying this makes me seem good at the game because I pretend I don't struggle against this hero>hero has 45% winrateThe hero is actually overpowered, you just don't know how to play it like I do, alternatively it's a hero I personally dislike playing against either way I'm better at the game than you
>>569770874Silver really does run /dlg/ huh
>>569770874>bad hero silver damagesilverxisters....
>>569770874silver game silver thread
>charge up heavy punch to finish off trooper>lane partner shoots trooper to death before my punch connects>he doesn't secure the soul and it gets deniedhate these motherfuckers
Silver general (until Hoodwink is added)
i got game, i shoot people it does nothing, i push some number buttons they do nothing, then 10 minutes later the enemies do infinite damage and have infinite healthill let you know when i know more
>>569770874>phantom shitlow>nigga means m1>important playerbase faggots>holiday splatter mcginnis>venator mid>oh nigger help
>a guy lightly taps me in the face>I parry it>they are stunned for 50 years and I am now rewarded with a free killamazing game mechanics bros
Remove parries, they are cheats.
what the fuck is this mm
I desire Rem hole
>>569770207It's still funny that people think moba fags care about slurs and they can cancel them.
>>569771857its the mm's fault someone rq?
>>569772047yes actually
I'm not a big fan of the tanky Warden colossus build, feels like I deal no damage by the time I get it.
>>569772226how?
>>569770974To expand furtherWhy would you want a gun support? When you have a spirit carry(like seven), to diversify the damage sources. Spirit carry also struggle with tankbusting which is his clear side role(pure dmg).I think there is some interesting things with the archetype like you could pivot to attack speed after first urn if your carry is braindead and you could service that role
>>569770872>/dlg/ is too new to remember when sorapoi called Ivy ugly as fuck and he couldn't overcome the disgust to draw porn of her despite requests, then got harassed so much by ivyfag twitter he had to retract the statement like he had praised Hitler
>>569772574>player sucks>rage quitsI'd call that a failure of matchmaking.
>>569772486his gun damage has been nerfed 2, maybe 3 times since old gods patch. they want him to be a non-melee tank now (with the potential to be a frontline mage) as opposed to a pure outdps gun carry
>>569772871No that's a success of matchmaking. I don't have to waste 30 minutes because some guy died a dozen times in the first 10 minutes
>>569772682>stalker>hsbwhat the fuck manat least get charges for nade&traps if you're gonna be 'supportive'
>>569772871rage quitters do end up in low prio after some time so mm has got you covered in that regard. i dont think you can realistically make a mm system that caters to retards that give up and rq after one death
>mikaels still on breakcome back my finnish prince...
>>569773632eos soon, why would he come back
>>569771258Secure it with a light melee if it's low enough for your retarded lane partner to shoot it to death.
what rank is /dlg/https://strawpoll.com/poy9k74LDgJ
>>569774359TomTom 5
Ah yes! The classic:>"we have tons of data and our own vision so we gonna ignore player feedback and keep forcing our vomit ideas onto our playerbase!"Has this thread rusulted in better comp-making for anyone? Today I had a game against team full of AOE and displacement kits (dynamo + lash + billy + celeste...) and what we got in our team is apollo + mina who both were gutted and both have 2 lowest winrates, but at lest we got victor and 1/11 bomb bebop
>>569774359>every scoreboard post is from absolute shitlow>everyone is oracle to eternus in pollbias in participation or something :D
>>569769114because your average seekerDOG only looks at what their teammates did
Please god let the content patch be within the next 30 days, shit's getting stale again.
>>569773632it's over isn't it...........
i did the tutorial and will never ever read or watch a guide or think about gay shit like builds, which guy should i pick
wish the AI people would work on vidoe games. i would gladly pay $10 a month to have ai teammates/enemies that perfectly match my skill level and never throw and work together as a team
>>569775604>He thinks this kind of service would be a mere $10 a monthSam Altman says he wants AI to be a utility. Pay up $1k a month, chop chop!
>>569775864china will push prices lower
>>569769114its precisely this. apart from focusing on yourself the only other thing that you can do to perform better is to communicate well
>>569769853Baseball, huh
I wanna make a working gun hybrid shiv but im oracle 5
I think there nothing more infuriating than playing support rem and having teamates that refuse to push.I'M WASTING MY ACTIVES ON YOU!PUSH!!!
Is it 3-2-1 or 3-1-2 for Bebop?
>>569776949>Playing support in solo queue
>>569777506Yes.
>This rem solo ults me with his billy also solo ulting me just so they can kill me>Twice>Start saying ez after every kill>He misses 2 rem ults directly after, doesn't hit anyone with them>"Nice ult man">He literally sits in spawn typing instead of helping his teamMental warfare
>>569776834So what's the problem? Try Mystic shot+spirit rend and tell me how it goes.t. Shithigh Ascendant
>>569776949playing support rem (the only non retarded way to play him) solo queue has to unironically be one of the most legitimately infuriating gaming experiences I've ever gone through
>>569777725MeleeGAWD Rem is the only correct way to play him
>>569777725>>569776949>Not eating every single sinner on the map and buying only orange items NGMI!
>>569773314Hsb is just for lane, stalker is actually pretty good for supports I dont believe in purples on venator, the spirit does literally nothing so its as if every purple item is twice as expensive as it should be. Duration is nice tho
Why does every single Dynamo in my team just refuses to ult unless its a 6 man ult
>>569778354Meanwhile on the other team>I CANT DO ANY OBJECTIVES BECAUSE DYNAMO STILL HAS ULT
>>569778354The threat of a wombo black hole is more powerful compared to just getting one kill with it.
>>569778354chronosphere syndrome
what are the best chea....i mean mods? hahai already have esp and auto parry i dont want aimbot because it would be so obvious
>>569779159>would be so obvious>auto parrydoes he know
>>569778480Ye but you can pretty easily get doubles which is good enough>>569777725Support rem<spirit max rem
>>569777725I've been trying out gun rem and it's actually not horrible. I'm working on a hybrid carry/support build after trying gun rem. The whole idea I'm working on is being able to clear jungle camps as fast as possible to deny enemy farm.
>>569779159the one that gives silver an erect doggy cock (should be part of the base game)
>>569779159All the bbw
>>569779608>>569779318One thing I try to leverage is +% spirit he gets from tagalong, its the only +% in the game besides boundless. With it you can hit higher spirit levels than any other hero, idk how viable this is for stealing jung tho cause you need a friendly target to nap in
>>569776834Mystic Shot + AlchFire/WeightedIt's not that hard lil bro....
i love victor
Wouldn't surprise me if they nerfed tag along to give rem damage resistance instead of literal immunity to everything, hes the most broken support the game has had in years
>>569781223I'm a foid Rem onetrick I want to hide inside my carry duo that I'm pocketing and be invincible from the scary enemies ok :(
>little boy character>still no little girl characterhmm
>>569781223>It's % based so a low Rem and a low (whoever he's going inside of) could both go from 50 health to 400 instantly, and that's in lane phase. I have had lategame Rems heal me for 2k health lategame>>569781501That's just Graves. She's like 16-18 (probably 18 because ESRB gets pissy about underage deaths in games) but the fanbase acts like she's a newborn
>>569780906That's not what I've been doing to steal jung. That +% spirit imo is really only good for team fights. To effectively steal jung, you need high gun dps and at least tier 1 helpers to steal both sinners in doubles. What I've been working on is going off of is swolebenjis mega farmer build and tweaking it to have more buff/team fight ability. But in general you want vampiric+ricochet and your 48k gun invest to melt camps and get that money.
shiv winrate would go up a full letter grade if every shiv bought alc fire
>>569774883>Has this thread resulted in better comp-making for anyone?the subreddit for this game unironically has more push and pull than this gen does, not even counting the influence dl forums has. you're better off just posting your schizo ramblings onto the forums and subreddit and hope for the bestI don't there's ever been any evidence of Yoshi or the other devs actually lurking here
>>569769087>Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*where is the asterisk info
>>569770631I think one critical mistake a lot of low elo players make is that they assume just because their team is making a bad play, they should follow.
>>569781978they hide it from youso you don't stop playing the game because of how shit and rushed the MM system is
>>569781978The asterisk info is that the enemy team in said low rank game are onetricks/smurfs and your ass gets eaten alive
>>569769853they also come up with the worst, and most biased tierlists known to man
>>569770631this strategy only works if you're playing as a hypercarry in solo qyou don't get this kind of leverage when you're playing as support, or if there's another carry on the team that's up in souls by a big gap
putting on a replay and eating bread while I queue to LARP being in a high elo
uhhh victor upplayers?our response?????
>>569782707dont care having sex with victor
>>569783575>t. Mina Haaaaaaaaaaaa>t. Paige
>>569783708no im rem
>>569779257i set it to 30% proc on light melees, literally no one has accused me of using anything yet
>>569783708paige exclusively has sex with dogs
>>569784837No, that's silver.
>>569785112Paige does not have sex with Silver
>>569781693You also want quicksilver on pillow and eventually upgrade that into merc mag. I think I can fit split shot and either glass cannon or lucky shot in there to be even more gunpilled.
>>569783708Victor belongs to Graves, though.
>>569785492Unfortunately Graves is handsexual and is uninterested in anything but her mentor.
victor belongs to ME
>>569781693I dont really like sb builds in this game, he overvalues jungling and ricochet. For rem if you want to gap on souls you just max helpers and get a bunch of sprint speed to soak multiple lanes
I haven't seen Paige in a lot of games, do people just not play her anymore?
>>569777725actually terribleI've gotten to asc with Rem but it's so fucking awful sometimes>don't push, don't fight, only urn if I bring it>outdamaging Seven because if they're on my team they're only going to farm lane all game
Valve should add a chinese hero to deadlock.
>>569787527Mina is chinese.
>>569787527A chinero.
>>569787794Mina is Korean.
>>569742347all calico has is laning phase. if they dont get ahead - way ahead - then they don't get to play the game after minute 25>>569743947calico hasnt been GOOD let alone broken for over three months, all the tourists are gone and all that remains are the dedicated players and I guess whoever has calico as a waifu
>>569785112silver only has sex with dogs when she's in full heat, otherwise she tempts human men with her puffy cookie
>>569787794She's too Americanized
>>569787527AgreeWhere is our autistic rice counting chinese vampire
>>569787527That girl at 0:10 who fucked up her entrance...
Why is it actually so comically easy to 1v1 Victor at around the 0-25k souls mark?Both gun and spirit build.
>>569787527can we go at least one moba without wukong
>>569788850>girl>hernewfriend...
>>569787527>all of these are malewtf are they putting in the water in china...
>>569789036Victor players are boosted that's whyThese tards don't even parryt. Billygawd
>>569789036>why can I stomp the hyperscaler before he has hyperscaled?A question for the ages
>>569774359now do another poll for height and dick size so i can definitely very honestly answer that one too
>>569786891every other support can do what she does but better>ivy insane cc, map presence, dedicated m1gger support>remgood heal, macro with lil helpers, dedicated spirit support>kelvinfaggot>dynamoult, damage, escape with 2 >>569789036spirit victor needs infuser/EE to start dealing decent damage and not fold with a sneeze. he is no different than any other carry, him and venator are the easiest to fuck with because they have 0 mobility
>>569786172Yeah his build is pretty wack, but I do see potential in being able to steal camps in addition to sinners and splitting lanes. One of the real questionable things he does is start with extra health building into colossus on Rem. Colossus Rem is funny, but not worth doing over something like nova+tempo.
>get spirit resilience>still taking 600 damage from 1 ability>buy unstoppable>still getting CC to infinity and beyond>buy metal skin>recent victor gun damage -> 2110
>>569791315Defensive items suck, go max damage and kill them before they kill you
>>569791315>Spirit Resil, Witchmail and Spellbreaker>One GT arrow still takes half my life
>>569786172helper empowered minions only give you souls when you're near them, otherwise they split souls among the team
Why does Geist's ult not fucking work half the time? I just had a game where on three different occasions I ulted someone and my ult doesn't go off even though I'm in range. Still goes on CD without doing anything. They don't have counterspell, my ult just never goes off but goes on CD anyway.
>>569795052THE DEATH I BRING TODAY IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT LIES IN STORE FOR HATHORNE!
>>569795078Game's in pre-alpha, please understand
>>569795227>HATHORNELiterally who
>>569795324some guy apart of grey talon's unfinished loreI shit you not his name is John Hathorne. John fucking Hathorne, the leader of the AND I SHIT YOU NOT, "Friends of Humanity"basically he's the guy that killed GT's son, daughter-in-law, and grandkids, and that's why GT is out of retirement and participating in the ritual
>>569787527They will but you won't like it
>>569795072Yes and you are on the team so its +15% for 2 lanes and +30% for three plus boxes in-between that helpers can do tooIm fairly confident you can hit higher soul per minute pve with rem then any other hero, pretty skill intensive tho compared to stuff like seven
>>569795679So why does he get buttmad at poor ol Drifter?
>>569791249I agree with him on Extra hp since hes low base hp, upgrade to collosus is a little sus tho id go fort
>>569795721another melee tankbold
>>569795921Drifter broke his balls a little bit
>>569795721>grinding up pandas to drinkwtf...
>play a match as Rem>during lane phase kill Drifter like 7 times>he ragequits>his entirely team slowly files out one by one>give a thumbs up to the only non-defeatist on their team out of pity
>browse deadlock category on twitch>dozens of titles making ironic 6/7 jokeswhy is this community so dry and unfunny these days, no personality or culture at all
You guys don't sexualize Apollo or Graves right? They're literally children.
>>569796352the deadlock community is comprised of trannies and fags i personally cant stand engaging with the community outside of this general
They're cooking something big, I just feel it in my bones...
>>569795679Does Greytalon even actually KNOW that Hathorne killed them? I assume there's a reason he asks Drifter if he was the one that did it.
>>569796594Immensely happy that I will never be this kind of neurotic faggot
What if Silver ult was like playing hunter
>>569795921so the baxter society is a monster hunting organizationand Drifter's been around for a long ass time, so Drifter and the Baxter society were bound to cross each others' paths at some pointand shiv is supposed to be the replacement for GT in the baxter society, so a big power gap isn't left behind after GT's retirmenetShiv is actually strong as fuck, considering that Drifter doesn't show too much fear towards GT, but was worried about whatever the hell Shiv was doing back then (it was apparently some really fucked up shit)GT and Drifter had some rivalry, arch-nemsis thing going on with each other though as well, but that's more of a background detail than something important to the loreThey also had some big fight in Oklahoma, so that's why GT gets buttmad at Drifter everytime he sees him
>>569796697John is just the most likely person, and GT’s feeling bitter as hell after losing all of his children, so that’s why he’s all apeshit about going after John. He’s not entirely sure if he was the guy who did it, but he’s the highest suspect he’s got
>>569796594i masturbate to victor and graves making out
>>569796068Fort isn't a bad pick, but I prefer extra regen to build into tempo. I've gotten crazy high dps with nova+tempo, even doing top obj damage with it. My idea is that you're gonna want to play with the team at the end so you're pivoting from this roaming soul thief who can solo unaware people into a team fight monster throwing out debuffs and shitting out damage.Now whether or not it works is the question. I might be retarded, but I'm a retard with an idea.
>>569796352This game is entirely played by homosexual americans, homosexual brits and russians. There's no salvaging the community.
Ever since making it to Eternus, I'm quite literally forced to play metaslop characters. As the quality of teammates I get here are worse than when I was in Phantom. It's actually crazy unfun this game turned once I got here. You would think these people who have a modicum of knowledge on macro, but watching my replays, and observing them it feels like these people only started to play the game which shouldn't be the case because how do you make it to Eternus but lack game knowledge of someone who would be in Ritualist.
>>569798130i went from seeker to archon in the past 2 months and the only differences in these lobbies from seeker is that some characters are getting played by worse and worse players, while others are improving. literally the mina players here in archon are worse than the ones in seeker. meanwhile in the lowest ranks every single calico was an absolute joke, while now if i see a calico on either team i know the match is ending before 25 min mark
I max helpers first on rem, right?
>2/12 Shiv who dies first every single """teamfight""" mid>1/1 Mirage running around defending both side lanes at onceGuess who's the one "literally costing us the game bro"
Sinclair is being slept on massively. Give it a year and he will be meta if he stays as is.
>losing every teamfight>enemy kill midboss>"is that the sound it makes when midboss dies?"SEEKER HELL SEEKER HELL SEEKER HELL
>>569798104What happens when you let furries run the community. Happened to TF2, is slowly happening to the Dota 2 general as the squirreltroon continues spamming and conjuring his discord sisters to help.
>>569800442>slowlyit already happened
Why does this game not make me seethe like any other Mobas?Whenever I played Dota/League, it ended with me being irrationally angry. Not with this game, even on loss streaks.
>>569800609Not me, I've already broken a mouse and keyboard over this game
>>569800442and you get called a same fag when you complain about it
>>569787858key word, was. I was replying to him cause I suspected that there are boosted players that are still lingering and pissed they don't just auto win games anymore.
Imagine being proud of onetricking skill-less niggers like Haze and Wraith
>>569798130Because they climbed up by abusing the meta characters, not by being good at the game
>>569795052just remember he can do that 4 times with a 0.7s CD btw and then send a bird at you that does 1000 damage and executes and stuns
>>569800749How?Again I'm not saying I don't have bad loss streaks. They just have way less impact on my mental compared to say league where I'd start screaming in animalistic rageAscendant player so according to the majority of the playerbase I'm a tryhard.A lot of it is due to how unmoderated the game is IMO, unironically calling my team-mates useless nigger faggots is enough for me to decompress and lock in.
>0/16 Bebop on team>Buys literally ONLY purple items with the exception of trophy collector>He dies practically instantly the moment he shows his face so he never even gets any trophies
>>569801510That was me, I'm sorry.
I absolutely despise Victor like nothing else. This character's mere existence isn't healthy for the game. If they're going to keep him as-is they might as well just make it so that whenever you make him use his ult you get the same souls you would have if you did kill him
>>569796684>Valve decides to go back to neon prime and scraps the whole cursed big apple esthetic >After three months they scrap neon prime again and decide to go for a post apocalypse theme
I've awoken to Spirit Silver. 4.8k spirit with Mystic Shot is crazy busted. Her spirit scaling on her abilities is bloated as fuck.
>>569801792If merc magnum didn't scale like shit in wolf form, sure
>>569801510Every spirit bebop is a designated 50/50 agent sent to destroy your winstreakHis bomb is one of the worst abilities in the game, same thing with bomb Geist STOP BUILDING AROUND THE WORST SHIT IN YOUR KIT I SWEAR TO GODWHO IS POPULARISING THESE BUILDSIt has to be some eceleb purposely fucking over new players with troll builds
>>569802078Spirit Bebob is played by people who can't move on from past glories, like me.
>>569801792You only need scourge honestly, maybe slowing hex if you want to make a enemy shiv cry and shit himself (based)
How bout support Victor? It makes sense to me
I seriously need some new content everyone who plays deadlock was replaced by ubisoft multiplayer trailer humans and it's beginning to feel permanent. They wont make us wait till august again... right? Right?
>>569771258>have to melee minions because lane partner is retarded and never secures souls>he magdumps a minion I'm about to hit>I fly forward and get parried>1 micropixel of me is exposed to the enemy guardian>die
When the game asks me to rank how fun it is to a hero I want nerfed into uselessness, should I say 1 or 5?
Cage might actually be the most braindead ability in the fucking game
>>569771093Always has done.
>>569803271>(m1gger ability) might actually be the most braindead ability in the fucking gameya think so?
>>569803381>Wraith>Seven>Warden>VenatorI like how every single M1 hero is some premium bullshitI don't even see most ven players use their traps and they STILL carry games. Imagine if these niggas had a single braincell
>>569795052Tankbuster is good.
>>569797924That probably works fine in the slower lobbies, I think nova is a bit weak for the price and ive been convinced tempo sucks on him by an autistic but that was before the heal could hit everyoneI feel obligated to go divine barrier so my greens usually look like hp>guardian ward>fort>divine barrier
>>569777635wtf kind of horrid words has uncle billy been teaching him
>>569802294Give me the qrd because it sounds retarded
>>569803271>>569803381>>569803580It's truly insane how m1ggers have the best abilities, and are good at ALL stages of the game. Hell, most of them don't even need aim!
>>569801792how do you build it? i've thought of trying spirit silver a few times and while in theory it seems good (combo on cd can do like 2k damage and transform you instantly) i can't seem to make it work in gamesalthough in my defence in the 3 games i've tried it my team was complete dogshit too
Vindicta and Holliday should never be good.
I'm unironically hardstuck seekerIt's fucking miserable
>>569798130>Climb to metafag rank>Have to metafagSelf-inflicted injury.
>>569804739Stop caring for rank my frenThere are smurfs in every single elo (Even eternus)Its a joke, just play to improve and have fun.
>>569781978How dare paige appropriate the silly
>>569802078sorry that I want to play the character and not build gun like a m1gger
>>569804739disable rank pop ups entirely, post game summary and notifications. you would benefit from focusing more on watching better people play your hero in pubs and seeing how you can apply it to your game.
Is there a better feeling
>>569805568cumming to oppai lolis probably
>>569804739I've developed shitlow survivor's bias. I can't even imagine how you can be hardstuck ritualist, let alone hardstuck alchemist or lower. I promised myself I'd remember the struggle but I just don't. Those elos are a joke, if you're any good at all any play more than 100 games you'll climb out.
>>569784837Yes, and by dogs, you mean Silver
>>569805749don't understand the appeal
>>569806252They're removing the MOBA elements and adding a battle royale game mode?
>>569806463no they're hanging you. it's gonna be great!
Add casual mode already
>>569806134no I mean like big fluffy 4 legged doggy studs that go bark bark woof woof
>>569804234This except yamato, everytime yam is good game is bad
>>569806617Worry not I shall do that myself
I haven't played a normal match in months and just brool now. Have they said anything about another big patch?
>>569806810Not gonna get that til release, if at all.
>see wave going towards walker>that's okay I can use the rails to get there in time>0.000001 nanoseconds later the walker is killed>huh?>2 minutes later>blue walker falls>?????>look at their team>wraithOh of course. How silly of me.
>>569808176Some heroes just do absurd objective damage for no fucking reasonSeven, Warden, Wraith shouldn't be able to solo kill a walker in 10 seconds but they do.
Remove Wraith from the game
>>569808464>>569808176Walkers shouldn't be weak as fuck. It's not like them being made weak made games end faster, shitlow games still last for ages because nobody knows how to end
Mcginnis headshot buildsend tweet
>>569803806I might swap nova for divine barrier and have guardian ward somewhere in there.
Remove Graves from the game
Hello? Housekeeping
>>569808917I agree
why aren't spirit builds for victor going for spellslinger when it seems like such an obvious choice?
>>569807086You have described Silver.
>>569809650God what could've been. I drool over frankenstein girls
>play a hero i don't have 500 games in>get grouped with literal mouthbreathers as lanemates that feed 3 times in under 5 minutes and there's literally nothing i can do about it so the lane ends up being a rollover because that pissed away 2k soul advantage away and the game is a stompfuck you yoshi i guess i'll keep one-tricking ivy forever
>>569810120imagine she changes her pussy every week to find one you like
>>569809964I wish, silver would be much hotter if that were the case
>>569810120>what could have beenthat was never even on the table during design discussions
>>569810740t. gabe
>>569809650Victor is just Geist 2.0 I slot in spellslinger and berserker even though I go primarily spirit on him
I love shitlow.> Playing Warden, lane partner is a Celeste against Haze and Lash on a side lane> We nuke them to death four times before the 5 minute mark and take the tower> Sinners spawn and they're both dead so we decide to go steal their sinners, starting with the duo and then taking the two on side lane> We take the duo, and on my way to their side lane sinners I see their Rem dropping his remlings> Steal the sinners with him right there> Rem gets fucking pissed and starts following me while holding down M1> I start going back because I'm positive he's stalling for Haze and Lash to show up, evade him pretty easily and get on zipline back to base> I'm in fountain in buy menu and suddenly get a damage notification, what the fuck is going on> Rem is outside the fountain shooting at me while spamming crouch
>>569800992her pick rate is abysmal, nobody is hanging around to make calico work outside of that one newbie in this thread
At what rank do people stop running urn when none of your lanes are pushed?
>>569800609I feel like its cause theres alot of room for improvement in every game even if its a loss, so thats takes away alot of frustation
Add a surrender option Remove Victor, Wraith, and Haze
>>569809650ill never build a single gun item on victor
I wish there was a jester/joker hero but Celeste already has the "circus" theme
>>569777725At what rank? I'm hardstuck oracle/phantom and I see healer/utility rems carry games now that he got buffed.
>>569810120>twice the pitsOIUUUUUGHHGG!!
>>569805568cumming to hung shotas probably
>>569811963kino
>>569812821Dont add a surrender optionRemove Victor, Wraith and Haze from people that want a surrender option
Are there any Shiv mains here? I'm hardstuck seeker and tried climbing with characters like Victor and Infernus. But after some time I stopped having fun because I was worried about rank so much. And playing Vic might feel good while winning, but it gets boring.I really want to learn Shiv since he looks fun, but I just suck with him. I always do the least damage and have shit movement. Do you guys have any tips? Should I just play more, or should I try to generally practise movement?
>>569805568cumming to sexy dogs probably
>>569814242Post some
>>569814383I don't want to get GR1'd bwo
>>569814101Point 1: Listen to Drifter's words when it comes to rank:>IT>DON'T >MATTAHPoint 2: play more and practice movement
>>569814242what
>enemy abrams has almost all green items>is always with his team so it's impossible to kill him>he gets all of his kills from this 0-9 venator>melee abrams used to be a joke until they buffed how he melees, now he's just fuckin up my lobbies because no one is ever expecting the all green melee abrams to be that fucking strong, but he is
>>569814101>I always do the least damagethis would help if you posted the build you've been using but generally shiv only does damage if you have rage, or if you put enough knives or get enough dashes from the cooldown reduction on hit that they suddenly go from being tickled to exploding. you only build rage by hitting players but you can keep it from falling by hitting wave npcs (but not neutral camps). you have to understand when it's time to fully ape out and when you play passive and let bloodletting keep you shug stuff off>Should I just play moreif you find him fun yea. shiv is cool because between movement and a kit that can synergize with a lot of stuff I can always try out different things in a game>should I try to generally practise movement?the basic idea is ground dash -> slide -> instantly face 90% to your left/right and m2 -> face in the direction you're moving again. if you jump before your slide starts to slow down you can then loop this process to turn 1 stamina into a lot of movement but just getting a feel for doing it 1 time is still going to give you that little bit to avoid stuff or get behind coverother easy things to remember are crouch to detach from zipline ->airdash -> m2 at some angle below and to the side and shooting up and behind you at about 45% off jump pads to get big leaps. there's a "you didn't actively lose speed" floor and a "holy shit" cieling to this stuff so slowly trying to work basic ideas into your game is how you don't get giga frustrated
>>569798923>while now if i see a calico on either team i know the match is ending before 25 min markhow does that work
I want to be the most unkillable Abramsplease give me your best build IDs for unkillable Abramsthanks
>>569814101Shiv is best used with good movement (not including his hero exclusive techs) and you need to land your knivesTry and wait as long as possible to refresh your bleed in lanePlay team fights slow tossing knives until you either have rage or a fat 2 that will fill the last of your rageGet blades ticking on frontliners, they're easy targets
speaking of shiv, does the spirit resist shred on his dash also apply to the shadow clone 2nd hit with rage? he gets to do -12% spirit resist twice in a row?
>>569815932He's implying smurfs or something but the reality is Calico doesnt do anything after 25 minutes so the game either has to end by then, or it will end due to the 5v6
The amount of fear and respect Doorman gets is funny. Sometimes I just randomly run at people to watch them burn all their stamina and movement trying to get away. Me? No door prepared and my team is two lanes away.
>>569816189Doorman is by far the most fraudulent hero in the game, kidnap gameplay is complete dogshit relative to shooting them in the face with mystic shot headhunter with a bell in the air and shooting them is much easier
>>569813152high phantom/low ascendant
>enemy rem gets to roam around the map>he is 2fast and takes all of my sinners>rinse and repeathellish outcome
>>569816061victor
any other free games like deadlock? thinking about taking a break until open beta so there will be more people in matchmakingive played dota 2 already
OKAY YOSHI IT ISNT FUNNY ANYMOREWHERE THE FUCK IS THE NEW MAJOR UPDATE
>>569814101its good to know that you can enter a slide chain with a normal jump(but you should strafe it if you can) into an m2 a milisecond before you land into the slide, and keep going from that by normal slide hopping into added m2s right before going into new slides. Sometimes you can get away by m2ing during the slide to save ammo but if you dont get firerate items(which you shouldnt) this will be slower. Always shoot them 90° of where you wanna go, depending on the curve(its possible to go fully straight but not realistic). For wall bounce m2s you press space and m2 while on the wall "at the same time" BUT you press space first(like the input for an IAD). Youll get what I mean when you start hitting them. If you have foward momentum and got your timings right and you have a wall next to you you can use m2 wall bounces for more foward momentum, youll know youve hit them when you get shot 45°-60°of your foward direction relative to the wall. It will somewhat look like an edge boost but its probably not as fast...more realiable tho. The inputs of your strafes rly determine where you go from these techs, especially the wall bounce m2 which is the finickiest of them all. Another very, very niche thing that Im not even sure is possible now with the stam and wall bounce changes is that you could practically scale any wall/building by timing your normal bounce to a a downward m2 into a wall bounce and so on. The point is to time them so by the time your m2 upward velocity reaches its peak your "good" wall bounce cooldown would come back. In practice you would never play for this and its used more for stalling time or waiting for dash cds, but if you miss a mantle up its good to know. Also besides the obvious of the m2 acting like an added double jump its not as good as a normal air jump but it can get you places if youre low on stam and in the air. The 90° degree rule also applies to air vents; if you shoot an m2 behind you itll completely kill your momentum
>>569819220Sorry buddy you got to get raped by Graves, Mcginnis, Victor a little longer
>>569815932>>569816162what i'm saying is every calico ive seen in archon completely stomps the gameso the complete opposite of mina where in seeker lobbies every mina i saw would stomp the lobby but every mina ive seen in archon lobbies shits the bed; all the calicos in my seeker would get 0 kills while here in archon every lobby with a calico ends up with calico going 10+ kills 0 deathsdoes that make more sense, i know it seems hyperbolic but i swear i am not exaggerating
I'm filled with overwhelming happiness knowing victor players will never be a woman and have zero rights as human beings
>>569819429>what i'm saying is every calico ive seen in archon completely stomps the gamehuh?? is there something I'm missing with calico? I thought she was just some random b tier bitch
>>569805907well I'm glad you can't imagine thatbut I cancause it's fuckin happen to me right nowt's very easy to imagine, in fact
is it really possible for someone to have played 1,000 games and still be in initiate or seeker rank? out of morbid curiosity
>>569820171she is completely useless if she falls behind just like apollo, but i've seen multiple calicos go 10/0 in laning stage and from that the snowball only gets worse no matter how "bad" calico is supposed to be mid-lategame
I finally played a character other than Silver for an extended period of time and learned that something with her animations makes corner boosting nearly impossible on her
>https://files.catbox.moe/xosodt.mp3I'm tricksy!
>>569821205What in the fuck...
>>569821271>https://files.catbox.moe/su0edj.mp3splatter used off cooldownalso...a really funny lash kill when he decided to come in the side lane veil. Splatter bounced 4 times and deleted him.B
>>569814101>>569819406be greedy and build rapid recharge and decay up to oracle until people actually find out dispel magic is an item in the shop. Decay was and I think still is a good item on shiv, especially begginer ones since it builds rage for free if you cant land your knives yet but it isnt worth the decay egg rush people were doing awhile back. Silence wave is a better decay since it gives you rage and has better team utility. When you get decent you wont need or want any of these items. You could get by for most of the game by just having extra charge, rapid regen and spirit strike for your 4.8k spirit, then build into as much greens as you need to be nigh unkillable. I like getting mystic shot and weighted for my gun invest rn but its completely skipable, you dont need gun at all. regen shot is nice in a poke lane but extra regen and mystic regen should keep you alive long enough to hit 6 and start building rage. Keep in mind before rage your kill potential is near 0, when you hit t2 knives you could think about kills; 3 knives in lane + rage is a kill for 90% of the cast. If theres very minimal kill potential in lane you could get healbane earlier then normal, youd probably want it before your 4.8k spirit in most cases. If its a very cancerous lane just get green invest first and wait for your spikes. Shiv is more reliant on xp for his dmg then items anyhow...Mystic shot could also turn a losing lane into a won lane but I wont suggest gun items on him as a begginer. Cold front is good to guarantee knives out of a dash, supressor makes you 1v1 m1s with ease, and torment pulse is very nice and a good transition for late game; which will mostly be you shredding the enemies spirit resist for your team and being a cc/dmg sponge. At that point mystic vuln into ee is nice and mystic reverb is S tier late. Get cd, dont rush artic, boundless is a trap, duration is a meme, eshift and scourge are cool and spirit snatch is goatedtankbuster/spirit burn exists.
>>569821205nice green invests from you and your doorman nerd
>>569769087Am I retarded or is Kelvin OP as fuck and autowin? I have a 99,99% winrate with this guy, even when I play 1 vs 11.Yet somehow when other people play him, I see them struggling. Usually when I see him on the opposite team I write the game off, but somehow when other people play him, they don't have this oppressive impact he should have and has when I play him.
>>569822907I feel like this is a statement anyone could make though unless you actually go into the specifics of why that is
>>569816061Green items on every slotEat your veggies
>>569822109best greens?
>>569808464Towers in Dota are also weak as fuck.Given that this is the same with Valve, one can assume this is a deliberate design choice.
im unironically stuck seeker 2 even though im on a massive winning streak. my buddy said it was a real bug?
>>569800609I assume it's because the game is good at making you think individual skill matters.In Dota you just right-click and use your abilities, but in order to be effective you need to be in sync with 4 complete strangers. And if things get dicey you navigate through a 2D environment.In Deadlock it's pretty much the same, but at the same time, you can do non-lethal headshots, melee and parry as well. And you can not only escape horizontally, but vertically as well. In the end it amounts to little, but that's apparently enough.Also unlike Dota, the game mechanics in this game does not make you do counter-intuitive shit like not killing enemies as support, because you are robbing your carry or something. So far, this game's meta hasn't developed that way.
>>569825720People are already funneling carries to do urn runs
>>569787527Should be Jackie Chan (infant in one hand, a ladder in the other)
>>569825720currently the largest demographic of deadlock player are 35+ white reddit troons. once the koreans get their hands on this game we will witness movement and plays that you can't even imagine yet
>gun graves>ask "why gun graves?">response "fuck your mother im playing the game with my legs cunt">and then the billy rage quit after failing to kill the victor for the 5th timealways interesting this gamehttps://litter.catbox.moe/2kxau4qmz52cbxpy.png
>>569825853Urns are unsalvageable and I see only 3 options.Either they remove it from the game completely.Or they make it into a payload.Or Valve says fuck it, we can't fix it, it's fucked, announcing Deadlock 2 alpha.
>>569826442>onceYou mean ifThe thing about Koreans is they are too mechanical, but can't think outside the box.Deadlock is such a game that could cause them trouble. I saw their attempts picking up Dota and it was weird. They usually did tri-lanes because it was the current meta, but they didn't seem to get why. They best and original thing they came up with was Cavemen Doto (all melee heroes) and astonishingly it worked, before Icefraud blessed us with another patch, after which all Koreans left.
>>569826776the urn is already in a good spot desuI like that the first 2 urns arent mandatory but something you can play around and potentially trade walkers withwhat deadlock really needs is just another objective and a camp that forces players to route differently
>>569826736I'd be mad too if I lost to an overtuned hero that trannies flock to
>>569827317I would make the Urn passable, like in TF2 Pass Time.
>>569827595>Press (keybind) to charge up pass, game gives a visual arrow of the arc of your Urn pass.>Max strength/distance of throw is based on how big your HP pool is>Not having a teammate to catch your throw disables urn pickup for your team for some amount of secondsWould be awful to balance around, but imagine how peak this shit would be if you had a team that could coordinate.
>>569826736>silver seven victor mcginnisThe match was decided before it had even started. If they had a Dynamo the match would've lasted 10 minutes
I tried Holiday for the first time todayShe's so fucking useless, holy shit. Rework now.
>>569828557
https://streamable.com/721mv2
>>569831537Only thing I want from this is thebidea of a night map and the creeps having better animations
>>569800609>>569825720This but the skill amounts to a lot. Good movement and aim lets you get away with risky high return plays you couldn't make otherwise.Can you make that 0 stamina cornerboost from the railings near blue walker veil to the roof of double sinners? Then you can safely sneak in some walker damage from that angle and run away while the enemy burns their entire stamina bar trying to chase you through the rooftops.A player with decent aim has almost double the DPS of someone with terrible aim. A Paradox that can't confirm swaps with carbine might as well be an inferior gun carry, meanwhile there was a time when she was first prio in comp because being within her LOS in the hands of your average pro meant an instant 5v6 a few seconds later.
>>569831537I like the greeneryDeadlock textures still feel rather flat overall
>>569831980The places of the map that are "fully" furnished look fantastic so I have high hopes for the rest of the map especially Park lane
>>569825352no. it is not a bug.we belong here.I went from arcanist to seeker.I can't leave. I cant' escape.I honestly just want to blow my brains out rather than play this game again, it is so incredibly unfun. It's not fun to win, it's not fun to lose. It just makes me feel empty, nothing was gained. I didn't feel that way in March. Hey, maybe it's like 1000x easier for everybody else to climb to Archon, maybe I am just truly shit at this game, and y'know what? I accept that. I can't get better, so I'm just gonna fuck off.
>>569819220They are end of servicing this trash game
what makes a fight "pointless"? in any fight, if you get a pick that opens up opportunities to do something on the map while you have a 6v5, whether that's run urn, push a walker, or even just steal jungle
Which heroes are high pick rate so I can put them as low prio for my actual hero?I dont care if I have to wait longer if it means I get a game with what I want
>want to play my main>pick it as high priority and select the retard op shit of the week (Mina, Victor) as low priority options>get my character every timeneat
spirit drifter is actually kinda fun. tried the top daily 'spirit melee' build, did some good work. until it didn't and we got raped extremely hard, but for a little while there it was going great, I see the vision, rend kinda fucks
>>569833594Usually fighting in a lane on the enemy's side of the mapBut also applies to stealing enemy camps/sinners while you have lanes that aren't pushed
I need to stop playing solo queue
Is this Seven hacking? I have no clue how he didn't get picked up in this game twice.https://streamable.com/cusmc4
>>569826736What's up with the game being full of shitters now that can't take any questions?Literally got hit with the "It's just an alpha dude nobody cares" twice today
>game is set in New York>no Jew hero?
>>569837049bebop the golem is right there
>>569836779>no items to reduce duration of or negate stun>crouchspamming to instadrop to the ground while less than 1 micropenis from the floor>crouchspamming to drop down at all, something I never ever see anyone do>russianyes he's hacking
>>569831672day/night cycle like dota?
>>569836779it's unlikely to be a hack, probably some manner of bug abuseeither way report it to the yoshit
>>569836779>ruskieeither hacking or bug abusing, no need to even ask
The only game mode should be street brawl.Because its clear the dev team has no idea how to design a MOBA
>>569838215t. league retardkys
>>569838215I once would have argued against you but every update since the big march one just proves they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. It's like a whole new dev took over development and started turning the main mode into Street Brawl.
i have no friends i have no family my only achievement at life is being eternus 6 in deadlock which i still feel like i don't deserve it and that feeling will probably never fade away.
Holy fuck PUSH YOU FILTHY NIGGERS!"oHoHHH we have to wait!!!! if we push now when some of them are dead, WE'LL BE DEAD NOOOOOOOO"PUSHH PUSH YOU FUCKING COWARDS FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF SOLO REM FUCKING RETARD NIGGER TEAMATES FORCING ME TO PLAY WITH HIDE AND SEEK FOR A FUCKING HOUR!!! FUCKING YOSHI!!!GIVE US AN FF BUTTON ALREADY!!!!GIVE US A WAY TO LEAVE THE GAME!!!!IM FUCKING TIRED OF THIS SHIT!!THE GAME IS OVER LET ME LEAVE LET ME LEAVE LET ME LEAVE!!! FUCKING SEEEKER!!!!!
>>569837523This would be kino but Deadlock matches are too short for this I think
>I find playing this game to be rather painful and unfun at the moment, especially in shitlow where you have to crawl your way out of smurf lobbies, onetrick carry lobbies, and have to constantly watch the map because your shitlow teammates won't look at it. This isn't even counting the insane amounts of CC or any of the low-risk high-reward abilities that determine meta pic—>>LOL you belong in that rank. like, no joke. SKILL ISSUE, you just need to get on that skibidi SIGMA grindset xDD>>if you feel that bad you should go back to Mario Kart or something. go back to playing your baby games, this is a game for REAL adults with the biggest DICKS and tightest VAGINAS>shouldn't we be playing this game for fun instead of caring about some png logo of a "rank" and some in-game RP title or some shit?>>ROFL?? you belong in that rank SO BAD, bro you wouldn't last a minute in Emissary. get BTFO xD
>>569831672>>569837523>>569839085It's taking place during an eclipse
My roster is Apollo, Bebop and Rem
>>569838801at least you're not stuck in seekerI wouldn't wish this shit on my worst enemy
>>569839141Matchmaking is undeniably the worst it's ever been right now but if you're hard stuck alchemist then matchmaking has nothing to do with that and you're just garbage which is most of this thread judging by how many people want a surrender option and can't figure out how to split push.
>>569839141Bro I'm in high Emissary and I'm still at the stage where I die to "enemy walks towards you in a straight line" constantly (I wish anyone else who played this game would teach me how to build damage because clearly I do not understand something)If you aren't even that far up and can't climb you deserve what you get
new patch negroes, what happened
>>569839334I used to think other seeker players were full of shit blaming their teamates.Boy was I fucking wrong.Actually gatekept out of proper games all because of cowardly teamates that are scared to make any moves unless absolutely certain that 5 enemy heroes are on respawn.I can't even look at gameplay on youtube anymore because I'll be so livid seeing competent teamates I'll never get to match with because i'm stuck down here in fucking loserville.I just had a game where our billy was pissed at me because he thought I could only heal one person at a time not knowing I could jump between teamates shitting out a burst hero with every jump.Like holy fuck nigger I have actives designed specifically to help you and get a boost when I use Tag Along.Absolutely braindead!
>>569839461why is it like that? i was fine in phantom all my lobbies were good i only had good players and every game was close and it was respectful, suddenly i don't know when exactly but i started having new players in my game constantly, either on my team or the other, it turned back to how lanes were before where maybe you had a new player in your lane and your opponent had someone in your same "rank" and another new personnow i just get shit and i can't even question why my teammates go for a weird build without having them cry to me how it's an alpha and a free gameliterally what the fuck happened?
>>569839717>If you aren't even that far up and can't climb you deserve what you getsee, this is the mentality I don't get. why is it always a "kill or be killed" mentality that infects this game and its higher ranks? Like okay? Deadlock isn't the only game I can play out of the literal hundreds I have on my backlog. Woah, you have like a... rank? in an alpha-testing game? good for you man. I have options, but I'm not going to sink hundreds of hours into this game if it still means the MM is going to fuck me over in some way or another, regardless of how much I improve
>>569839461>if you're hard stuck alchemist then matchmaking has nothing to do with that and you're just garbage which is most of this thread judging by how many people want a surrender option and can't figure out how to split push.Uhm Retard?Split push implies there is another push elsewhere.Either for another walker, midboss, or urn AND requires TEAMATES that will PUSH!!!!Deadlock is a TEAM GAME and if your TEAM is dogshit and wont do JACKSHIT then you LOSE.There is no second option in that scenario.Team doesn't push == YOU LOSE.Doesnt matter how much of a soul lead YOU have personally if your TEAM doesn't fucking PUSH!
>>569839184Should start at the daytime map we had before and transition to the current night mapAs the match continues the magic storm gets stronger and stronger as the eclipse gets closer and the minions scale more and more showing the patrons gaining power
>>569840168Why is Timmy Tencent like this?
>>569840321non sequitur
>play Streetbrawl>teammate Graves says: "ivy look">I turn and she starts doing her little six seven dance>I stand still looking at this in a trance for about 1.8 seconds>enemy Mina suddenly takes away 45% of my health with two shots using Haunting Shotwho was in the wrong here?
>>569840291Sorry to burst your bubble but your teams are constantly taking retarded fights outside of pushing anything and you could use that as an advantage to take a walker. It really is that simple in shitter hell.
Pocket needs a nerf real fucking bad that character has too much stuff cooking
>>569840168>why is it always a "kill or be killed" mentality that infects this game and its higher ranks?Because all the NEETS in any of the higher ranks (see here >>569838801) take this game way too seriously, and literally have nothing else to do with their lives besides play Deadlock and, maybe sometimes occasionally choose not to play Deadlock for around 15 minutes before going back to play Deadlock.
>>569840321I accept your concession
>>569840550>but your teams are constantly taking retarded fights outside of pushing anythingTHEY ARENT PUSHING ANYTHING!THEY ARENT TAKING FIGHTS!THEY'RE SCARED SHITLESS!1 IN 3 GAMES I GET 1 MEASLY PLAYER THAT ACTUALLY KNOWS WHAT TO DO AND KNOWS THEY NEED TO PUSH, FIGHT, FUCKING ANYTHING!!!YOU'VE BEEN SPOILED!YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE DOWN HERE!I'LL TAKE A SHITTER WHO THINKS THEY'RE THE MAIN CHARACTER OVER ANYONE ONE OF THESE NIGGER SEEKER PLAYERS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT THEY KNOW WHAT TO DO!IM TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT AND ANONS LIKE YOU THAT DEFEND THIS BULLSHIT!!"oh just split push! Just do something while your fight!"WHAT FIGHT!?!?WHAT PUSH!?!HOLY FUCK!
>>569833594contesting mid when you have none of the ults/abilities to actually contest it
>>569836929my personal fav is the>im just playing for funwhile going triple quadruple negative with sub 1k obj damage
>>569840978I came back after a long break with my rank reset to Initiate and I'm Ascendant now. Learn how to play a gun carry, jungle, and take walkers.
>>569840321Don't worry anon, I got the joke.
>>569841189Jungle is so fucking boring though
>>569839461>Matchmaking is undeniably the worst it's ever been right now but if you're hard stuck alchemist then matchmaking has nothing to do with that???>mm might be terrible right now>but mm being terrible has nothing to do with your gameplay at allboth of these things that contradict eachother can't be true at the same time nigga
How are people effectively building mirage? I prefer gun and mark over the twister focused builds. But I rarely actually FEEL like I'm doing much damage. Post-game my numbers aren't bad, just above the average. Is the lack of oomph really just the fact that a lot of your damage is backloaded due to the mark stack, so long as you shot someone over the course of 10-13 seconds?
I only play Graves, Ivy, and MinaSometimes Drifter
>>569840808I didn't even read your text
>first urn in the game spawns>it's already a comeback urn because ivy has died 8 times alreadyjust kill me now
>>569841189I dont care about your experience and how you lucked out ASSUMING you're not lying out your shit encrusted ass.You're full of horseshit.Yoshi fix the fucking game already.I dont care if its in alpha.We're doing QA testing for him FOR FREE!
>>569841331Why is Timmy Tencent like this?
>>569841289mm can both be the worst it's ever been and not so bad that you can't climb out of googoo gaga baby ranking
>>569841289Yes, correct. MM has little to do with your gameplay if you're that far down and actually know how to play the game. You are literally playing against noobs
I feel sad about it but I had to uninstall the game, it's simply not fun at all right now and the last couple patches are painting a grim picture for me. The game used to have a more sand-box feeling to it, you could get away with doing a less optimal build that focused on a specific aspect of your character or some stupid idea you came up with, but the current power level of every character makes it so you are dooming your team unless you do the strongest build for the current meta. The heavier emphasis on Urn makes it so you have to plan your whole game around it and mid boss, matches become a constant mexican stand off in mid where the player that gets bored first decides what happens for the next 6 minutes of the game.>"the game has always been like this"probably, but it "feels" worse than ever at the moment, I swear the average HP and Damage numbers used to be way lower before, so not playing optimally wasn't as punishing as it is now
>>569841406>>569841465so we are we just going to conveniently forget about the smurf epidemic in shitlow here huhgod this gen has its head so far up its ass, it's unreal
>>569841528If HP AND Damage numbers were way lower, wouldn't that change nothing?
>>569841528People were worse at the game, yes. You could do more because people didn't know what things were good and what things were retarded but here we are several million matches later and the playerbase is self-sorting>>569841625nigga I started playing in march and I'm currently emissary having played a dog ass hero (calico) to get there
>>569841528>UM AKRUTALLY SAAAAAR YOU ARE SIMPLY SHIT AT THE GAME!!!!!!!!!! You are GOO GOO GAA GAA PLAYER!!! IF URRR ARE NOT ETERNUS AND DON'T HAVE 100,000 HOURS IN THE GAME UR OPINIONS ARE USELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!All incredibly valid points. I miss this game from how it was back in December.
i feel spirit victor explodes way faster now then before the huge nerf patch, but this may also be because i was alchemist back then and now im in phantom so enemies may just be better
>>569841354>We'll get raped because urn is just a winmore mechanic (and their team has Seven, Victor, Dynamo, and Graves)
>>569841786>nigga I started playing in march and I'm currently emissary having played a dog ass hero (calico) to get thereUh oh this nigga got boosted by the magical negro being broken OP in March...
>>569841681bigger numbers means a higher ceiling, so the potential gap between the bottom and the top becomes higher even if the % is the same; 1-10 has shorter gap than 10-100 even if they're the same %
silver needs a shorter ult cooldown if we're all being honest
>>569842269Her ult needs to be nerfed in exchange
>>569841189yeah but my dick is bigger than yours soooooooooooLearn how to grow a bigger dick.
>>569842598is there a correlation between deadlock rank and penis size? discuss.
>>569842810If you feel the need to gloat about having a high rank in this game, and can consistently get there, you are absolutely compensating for SOMETHING.
>>569842810Metro wouldn't need to resort to grooming 16yo girls on Discord if he had a big dick
Growing dicks is pretty bad rn, but if you can't climb your way out of having a 3 inch-sized dick then you absolutely deserve to stay in that size bracket. Get. Fucking. GOOD.
why is the matchmaking bad did they change the algorithm?
>Can't seem to build damage>Get told I'm a retard and need to use a build until I learn>Use a build>Get told I'm a retard because all of the public builds are made by retardsThen why tell me to use a build
Imagine Mina growing dicks everywhere like in that hentai of a girl growing dicks everywhere. And the one with the holes too.
>>569843461they boosted the fuck out of people since many cried about not being higher now mm can't see the difference between real eternus and fake eternus and its harder to go down in rank now so its gonna take a while for people to go down
>>569843546ummm uhhhh GET GOOD LOLshoulda been born eternus little chuddy
>>569843582what are you talking about man
>dropped into seeker game>vyper entering rape mode>buy disarming>he does nothing about it whatsoever>we winif only it was always so simple
>>569843637I lose a rank every fucking match and I'm fighting to keep high emissary when I was archon 6 10 games ago excuse me?>>569843812Damn I wish counter items worked for me. But they're fucking useless if you don't have the damage to capitalize on them
>>569843546You should've used my build. I'm the #1 player of that character in my region. Also buy my coaching lesson too while you're at it.
>>569842138[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER SOUND]Started playing on march 18th you retard, good try thank you for playing
>30k deficit>enemy has 3 rejuvs>fuck it team let's fight urn nothing to lose>kill 9 and lose just 1So is it a win more mechanic or not?
>>569844257It's a win more mechanic if they have more AOEsloppers than you and whether you have forced 50/50 agents on your team or not
>>569841528>you witewawwy HAVE to play meta or you can't ever winThis is only true if you're in E6, and I know you aren't in E6.
>infernus sees me for 5 seconds>shoots me for 500 gun damage>afterburn passive deals 2k damage>he has significantly more gun invest than spiritEvery other hero that has some debuff/ free damage on an active/passive ability has to maintain line of sight with the enemy for much longer just to deal LESS damage with their ability than him. Afterburn certainly is not the most overpowered ability in the game but its just so fucking annoying to play against, and the only satisfaction you get out of using it as infernus is seeing the enemy health bar tick down, it requires no actual special input or planning on your part. Surely they can devise a way for infernus to keep his afterburn dot without it just being "hold m1 to do even more damage"
>>569845070Infernus has to be the most miserable person to lane against. You show your face for 1 second and you lose a few hundred health to DOT
>>569844480AoE doesn't matter that much when people can temporarily enter and exit the zone. Some AoE got worse too, e.g. Victor stun because you can now use the cover instead of being forced into the open.
>>569844738>This is only true if you're in E6Tunnel vision is the loss of peripheral vision while retaining central vision, creating a constricted, tube-like field of view. It can occur as a literal medical symptom, a psychological response to stress, or a behavioral metaphor for extreme, narrow focus.
>>56984507040k anybody with debuff remover can beat 60k afterburn infernusBy the time he is hitting you with 2k afterburns you should already have paid the counter tax.
>>569845540I accept your concession.
>>569845540>paid the counter tax.honestly no amount of counterbuying can stop a hyperscaled infernus unless his mental explodes into the atmosphere for some reason and starts inting
>Onetrick has onetricked so hard that their Steam name is named after the character they onetrickThis is a huge pet peeve for me for some reason, but it might be because I'm already biased against onetricks
>>569845863god forbid someone be good at a character
>>569846086>t. steam profile named syrupy silver pawjob under the table at denny's
I'm queueing Viscous and spending the whole match cutting wave directly outside of enemy base and you can't stop me
this has got to be one of the most immature communities I've ever seenliterally the only people who win are the retards who are shit at this game and are playing "just to have fun" because honestly? they probably are having funeveryone in shitlow is so mindnumbingly retarded, and everyone has their heads so far up their ass and think they're eternus++++++ gabe newell rank for knowing how to play the game semi-competently that it's enough that ranks are bad, but that people literally have to complain about every fucking thing in this gamejust go play something else if you have that much of a problem with it, good lord
>>569846468Honestly I think a lot of other games are way more toxic. But then again I'm just seeker rank, maybe it gets worse the higher you go
French sociologist Roger Caillois, in his book Les jeux et les hommes (Games and Men)(1961), defined a game as an activity that must have the following characteristics:fun: the activity is chosen for its light-hearted characterseparate: it is circumscribed in time and placeuncertain: the outcome of the activity is unforeseeablenon-productive: participation does not accomplish anything usefulgoverned by rules: the activity has rules that are different from everyday lifefictitious: it is accompanied by the awareness of a different realityIn short, how many of these requirements does Deadlock meet?
>>569846863it doesn't even meet the first requirement, damn
>>569846863>the activity is chosen for its light-hearted characterI mean... Can you really call anything about the current meta or state of the playerbase "light-hearted"? I can't. It's all full of miserable try-hards who are on the brink of hanging themselves. It's why this game desperately needs a casual mode again so people can start having fun once more.
>>569846863are we fucking deadass /dlg/we're actually doing thiswe're REALLY going to pick apart at why Deadlock technically isnt a game??? when it CLEARLY IS ONE??? HELLO?????
>>569847459well how can you call it a game when it clearly doesn't meet the first characteristic of a game?
>>569845540if you are losing as a 60k infernus to 40k anybody you need to stop playing deadlock entirely
>>569847606oh god we really are doing this
>>569847459Well I never said that Deadlock wasn't a game.I just was wondering what your all's perspective was on this.
>>569846863>Frenchnothing said is relevant
>>569848313I don't want to hear it ameriburger
>pick vyper>enemy vindicta flies away>enemy lash leaps away>bebop goes into the skybox to laser (at least that I can reasonably petrify)>when he's on ground level he just juggles me so I have to reload constantly>enemy dynamo can just stomp me>only two heroes I can fight are Infernus and drifterpain, I really don't know what to do there other than hope my team could've handled the enemies I couldn't (they failed). Kinda seemed like I was hard countered by their draft.
>>569848313>EUGAWDS prove they're so intellectually superior that it mindbreaks the NAiggers anytime they hear the "FR" wordamazing
can they just add a casual mode like payload or something so tryhard neets can actually enjoy the game competitively
why is victor allowed to have a free rejuve every 85 seconds + a built in infernus ult?>>569846215schizo
replace urn with a payload in the metro
>>569848538>meanwhile in Paris
>>569846863deadlock is more like a cold stimulating, skinner box type game rather than a fun, whimsical one atmthere are no emotes, no skins, and the only ways that players have of expressing themselves in-game (skill expression) is often getting deleted, hindered, or outright ignored because of newbs complaining, and because the devs genuinely do not give a flying fuck sometimes what the community says
>>569846863All of them, though some people would probably argue about fun.
>>569829379Holliday is what happens if you listen to movementtroons.>useless hero with dogshit kit>got in anyway because movement troons are having """""fun"""""
>>569849423I think if you asked somebody what's fun about Deadlock, they would genuinely blue screenLike yeah, brawl mode is fun because you get to... Well, broolDeadlock's main mode is fun because uh... Uhh... Because uhm. It's uh... Like... You could say it's like a... Think of an egg, and this egg is like a—
Calico and Viscous need a buffPocket and Seven and Silver need a nerf
>>569849807It's a cool hero shooter with a lot of built-in movement which lets people do cool outplays no matter what hero they're playing. A lot of hero shooters relegate movement to a few specific heroes but Deadlock doesn't.
>>569849807This game really needs more casual gamers to help balance things. Well, most casual gamers aren't going to push through dozens of hours of confusion and toxicity on the promise that it gets good later. But still, I agree. This game is in desperate need of some normalfag-appealing gamemode, or just fixing the main gamemode outright. Otherwise it's NGMI on release
>>569849807Normal hero shooters lack foreplay and they're boring because of that. Deadlock has the MOBA part as foreplay to the brooling.
>>569849962y'know when you ignore all of the moba aspects of it, deadlock is actually a really fun game. Like it's too fun to just zoom around the map in the sandbox NYC gamemodebut when I get into an actual match it's stressful as hell, and all the fun and joy is sucked out of the game immediately for me. It sucks
I miss when meleeing someone mantling would stun themI miss when wall bouncing didn't use staminaI miss melee cancelling for huge horizontal shmoovementI miss when movespeed stacking didn't have such neutered diminishing returns
>>569849807>I think if you asked somebody what's fun about Deadlock, they would genuinely blue screenSkill issue. I get as angry about this game as the next guy but I know why I find it fun enough to keep queuing anyway.
silver and billy being able to kill anyone 1v1 10k souls behind is.........le fair actually!
>press 4 as Shiv>"NO MORE GAYS!"huh?
>>569848364>>569848538>americans must be behind thisit's past midnight on a work day over there, no country likes the french.
Matchmaking is objectively the worst its ever been. Im having worse games in oracle than I did in fucking emmisary months ago.
comebacks are impossible. whoever gets a lead 10 minutes in just stomps every single match. i genuinely think they need to just nerf all item stats/effects/actives across the board by like 40% so a soul lead isn't that overpowering.
>>569796684>They're cooking something big
The stamina items were a huge mistake; heroes are balanced around their stamina and giving them more of it by definition unbalances them
>>569849436that shit never happened, kill yourself troon lover
i feel this game requires less skill than marvel rivals. not even kidding.
>>569826736Recently I got a McGinnis whose first big item was Healing Tempo. She also never ults during teamfights.
Kidnapping people with Holliday is really fun and all but it's a terrible way to use her ult.I notice that it does get really good at higher levels, when the team only needs 1 second of standstill stun to eviscerate someone out of position. In shitlow my team has to pick their noses before they start hitting my victim even if I don't move at all.
>>569853567If you think Vindicta Venator needs skill, or if you think aiming is a skill in this game, you have never played it. 95% of your shots are free. Sniping in fucking overwatch is harder.
>>569853567>Ult itself needs no skill>ViscousWhy does Claude think this
>>569853807Aiming is a skill when people are good at movement and especially while you yourself are moving
random rus niggers are actually bothering to cheat in high elo eternus matches not to boost and earn their monthly potato salary but to annoy other people
>retarded team throws the lead because they want to hold W and fight 1v3 in the enemy basejesus christ
>>569854428Shiv wouldn't say that.
urn still sucks
>>569854630shiv is the second most racist character after seven what are you talking about
>>569854428its funny that this is people's first moba and they're finally realising why people cant stand them all those "heckin wholesome stop being xenophobic" comments just got vaporised
>All heroes get the "+4 seconds to ult cooldown on damage" Ivy hasWho gets the most fucked over?
i genuinely think cheaters should to be degloved and hanged they should only have 1 chance after that its time to say goodbye to that skin this can apply to any crime and world would be 1000x better
>>569855156>functionally no longer has an ult
Cheaters should be IP banned from Steam and VPNs should be an instant ban
How effective is the paid shit in CS2 and Dotard to not get matched against cheaters anyway?
>>56983625618k damage apollo lol he went half gun for no reason at all then randomly has transcendent cooldown with no active items
>>569855184crime is cool though
>>569856973Dunno about dota but cs2 paid matchmaking is still full of cheaters, any serious player goes to a third party matchmaking service with its own anticheat (it still has cheaters and a shitton of smurfs but it's way better than VAC).
>>569856973I haven't played dota but in CS its a complete fucking joke lmaoEvery game you would get some turkish subhuman blatantly cheatingFor some reason its always a turk.
>>569833594when you dont get an objective off it. sure you "could have gotten" something, but if you didn't then its pointless
Three worthless faggot Hazes all buying 10k of farming items, being the brokest faggots on the team and still buying SOPMATCHMAKINGMAN ANY TIME NOW... LOL....
shiv's m2 is honestly stupid. it's like if rocket jumping was 1/10th as effective and you had to do it 10x as often. annoying doing 180 m2 all the time. i don't think it's an interesting movement tech unless they changed something about it so you don't have to spam it to be an effective high elo shiv
>>569859139haze is a throw pick like holliday. they aren't playing to win, they're playing for "fun"
>>569856973CS2 prime is fine, like 1 out of 100 matches has a cheater. The rate does increase substantially when you get to the top 1%.People telling you otherwise just got outskilled. They don't review replays like I do. They just get prefired and call wallhacks.
Valve should add some white non-gook vampires to deadlock.
>>569859868dey can run but it dont madduh...
We have you now!
pretty interesting how if they had literally not updated the game for 6 months it would have been in a better state than it is in now
>>569769159https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OKpaOK2A2Ls
>>569823765any lol, the buffed barriers have good synergy with his bloodletting but enchantress and battle vest is always nice. Healbane is mandatory, resto locket is nice and so is return fire. Healing booster is good and efficent but not a prio if slotlocked(youre gonna sell it anyway). Bullet/spirit res obviously(most games you can skip them or just get 1), dispel magic almost mandatory, CS sometimes, warp stone player and comp dependant if you want it for a game. Later its more efficent to ult into them and start shred-dashing with rage so warp is a vibe pickup(4 is also good for flat dmg in some cases to get your rage up. And to escape lol). Plated, unstop, phantom strike if fliers. Ah right metal skin if they got a fed haze/ven that 1 shot you and infuser makes you unkillable when on but its never needed.
>losing a game slowly but surely>team is fucking up left and right and so am I>enemy victor is 1/10 but still an asset by virtue of being an irritating wall of meat in fights>seven complains in all chat about victors kda>victor gets butthurt and starts deliberately feeding us kills until we win by sheer inertia
>>569861137She's only bad when she gets fed in lane. Frenzy being changed also makes her disgusting cause not even disables work at that point
Mina's ult is scary when you're on the receiving end, but after actually playing her she's surprisingly vulnerable to being shot in the face
>>569862197As an apollo player I usually just instantly cancel her ult then heavy melee her to death because they always want to ult high in the air I can reliably riposte firstReactive barrier also really helps vs her ult now
>>569862269Wait, can you cancel her ult? I assumed her bats are individual, not a collective
>>569854004Aiming is easier when you can move and position around the movement of your target.
>>569862161I don't understand why people aren't spamming silences on her it fucks her over so badMakes it so she can't use her abilities to generate wolf rage + gives you a timer to kill her before it activates Silence wave went from S-tier to A-tier and these niggas act like it doesn't exist.
>>569862942dispel magic
>>569856973Russniggers regularly pay for old accounts with premium and medals to cheat "stealthily".
>>569862379Stuns interrupt every sort of channel except for the ones they don't like Warden ult (after it's gone off), Viscous ball and Venator's crossbow.
Getting really tired of the fucking vampire guy.
>>569863441Why? Isn't he like C tier?
Why does seven never get nerfed? Stun into Orb is a free kill on literally everyone at any stage of the game
>>569864645dispel magic
>>569863725No the poster.
>>569864645>Seven puts stun on you>You don't Dispel Magic>You don't Counterspell>You don't manage to get to cover over the course of 3 whole secondsEven if you do get to cover the only way Seven can hit you with a follow up orb is if he wastes his stamina catching up to you and getting an angle, dooming him to die to literally any of your teammates because he's out of position and has no escape tools.
>>569802297>They wont make us wait till august again... right? Right?Correct. September at the earliest.
>>569866550Don't ever expect anything in a timely fashion by Valve
>Paradox's T3 nade now allows charges and gives +1 chargeThere. You're welcome.
how come when i lose a game i go 2/12 worst kda on my team? i have a good winrate + i'm in ascension. but when they snowball i just feed my ass off idk what i'm doing wrong. there's nothing to farm on the map man, shits empty most of the game.
Are we eventually gonna get MEET THE XYZ videos for deadlock chracters? please tell me yes
>>569867194I think there's a test video of a Valve animator of a Meet McGuinnis with her fat tits sloshing around.As everything else at Volvo I think it entirely depends on the motivation of a person willing to lead the initiative, but considering how big the cast will be do not expect anything more than a handful of those vids and even then I'm being optimistic.
>>569866671I mean that's still 9 months of a content update for a game in active development.I know Valve doesn't give a fuck but even them will try to avoid october/november
>>569867194i would pay big money for Meet The Haze while the playerbase that plays her are abhorrent I find Haze to be a cool and interesting character
>>569867383>I think there's a test video of a Valve animator of a Meet McGuinnis with her fat tits sloshing around.Proof? Please?
>>569868048google
>>569868048https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/comments/1m8a581/leak_mcginnis_meet_the_team_video/
>>569855156i'm still playing ivy a lot and winning games but maaan her ult is just so much less fun now
>>569868152God they just need to give her the fucking welding mask and slightly tanned skin back and she'd kill billions.
>>569853567>ult needs skill for two characters (venator, vindicta) where you have to aim the ult (you get multiple shots)>ult itself needs no skill for characters (viper, paradox) where you have to aim the ult (you get one shot)claude's retarded, not to mention viscous ult is probs the hardest to use in the game
>>569867091>12 deathsYou're making space. Keep at it.
I've dropped from phantom 2 to archon 6 since the urn changes. I'm going to blow my fucking brains out.
>>569868591Post your main so I can laugh at you.
>>569868783da dwifta
>>569868883ah okay, Drifter isn't unplayable but he isn't good at solo carrying right now so I can believe you.
>>569868883You were supposed to say a meta pick so that we could make fun of you...
>>569869024ok finesilver
What percentage of matches are decided based on comp?
>>569848667In the.. who..?
>playing as Rem both solo and with friends>slowly climbing the ranks >made two seperate drifter mains leave in lane stage after killing them a few times with my pillowWhy do people leave the game like pissbabies if they get killed a handful of times in lane phase?
>>569862132Cute :)
>>569869157those people are the ones saying they want a surrender vote btwthey promise they would never ever vote to surrender prematurely
>>569869234I'm probably gimping my stats by learning and being a shitter with every character as I learn them, but I try to see every match through so I can learn from my mistakes unless like 3/6 people leave
>>569869057Silver is unironically difficult, all of the roamers are honestly since you can't just afk farm and need to make game changing plays. The base 2 stamina as well means you need to git gud at movement to properly use her.
>>569869234Forgot the second half of my statement in my pre-coffee haze>>569869349...So I don't understand why people just leave like that if they get a bad hand or a lanemate who gets them fucked during lane stage. Like why even play if you are just going to throw your entire team under the bus because you died a few times?
>>569796594If they are old enough to be out killing people in a ritualistic manner then they are old enough to be sexualized
How am I supposed to curse the correct target when the game is a visual clusterfuck every teamfight?Genuinely want advice because the visual clarity makes all these single target debuff items not viable outside of ganks or skirmishes
Just fapped to Ivy.Heroes for this feel?
>>569870010Me
When did this general become so dead? Was it because of the shitty March update?
>>569869157>>569869234>>569869448>Team's Yamato dies ONCE>Ragequits immediately
>>569867091Watch the replay of the match, or the map replay to statlockerI had a game I did poorly in despite otherwise being on a win streak. Watched the replay and realized the issue was me joining too many fights when I had low HP
I gotta stop drinking
>>569868783The dwifta guy isn't me. I've been playing a lot of shiv since the update but i have trouble sticking with one character.
>>569870447I'm just waiting for the next content update. I don't want to be burnt out before the game even reaches open beta.
>>569870881I forgot my image
>>569870447I've noticed everywhere is becoming dead latelyEverything's slowing down, everythingMaybe people are getting off the internet and going back to real life...
>>569871068No they aren't, in fact they're even more connected than ever. It's just that people don't post on boards anymore, they watch youtube shorts and tiktoks instead.
>>569871068A missile probably hit a bot farm or some shit
>>569870447urn changes made me realize i actually suck ass at extended fights so i have to spend time studying the blade i.e. i can't come here to shitpost as much
>>569871008old urn was freelo for doorman since you could just ult the enemy carrier and dunk it instantly
>>569841317For me mirage is not really about straight damage or burst, its more attrition with a lot of tankyness. The mark is all the damage so it becomes just as important to survive to the next mark pop as it is to juice the dmg of it
>>569850848>I know why I find it fun enough to keep queuing anywayAnd that would be...?
>>5698712144chan is dying basically.
>>569871370Nah the bot farms are pivoting to ai, its sucking all the compute in the world even crypto mining is down
>MikaelS came back for 1 month>will now leave for a year again for no reasonwhy must he be the only good player to watch, everyone else is a goycattle zoomer spewing post-modern ironic humor every 2 seconds
>>569872892sorry I don't watch aimbotters charisma vaccuums
>>569873558it's a qol mod ok it's not cheating
>>569872892Stop worshiping ecelebs
>>569870447Schmovement and Urn finally killed Dedlock
>Go on 8 loss streak last week from the 2nd to 4th of June>Literally entire teams of clueless people throwing 70k leads at the enemy team>Derank from E3 to Asc 6>Matchmaking feels balanced again>Back upto E2 so farWhat the fuck did they do on June 2nd? It was nightmarish how bad teams were. Felt like I was just getting raped by 6 stacks or something.
>all hero challenge up to billy>testing him out>okay obvious combo of charge to knock them up into bashdown to knock them down>if you time the bashdown wrong it doesn't hit them with the melee componentuhh
>>569872892I find it really interesting how I have like an 80% winrate with this guy in pubs and he just never sticks around the pro scene. Is it just that miserable to involve yourself in? I haven't touched scrimming since late 24.
>Laning with somebody in the shitter bracket>They start giving unsolicited adviceSHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU ARE JUST AS DOGSHIT AS ME I DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK YOU'RE HOT SHIT I DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER YOU ARE NOT HELPING IT IS NOT MY FAULT IF I'M NOT PLAYING HOW YOU WANT TO PLAY SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>569875163We cannot be pretending bashdown is hard to land. I literally get hit by that shit a full dash distance out of the visual range.
There is nothing more humiliating than every single person on the enemy team getting a killstreak icon
>>569875369No it's not that it's difficult it's that there's literally some weird possibly bug where it only half connects for some reason if the timing is slightly off
>>569875454what about everyone on the allied team except you getting a killstreak icon
>>569875163Billy has like 10 different bugs that make him worse
>>569875973If I have 30 assists I don't care if it's also 0 kills
>>569875973>team baits me>literally only go in after I've died>somehow it works out because the enemy team probably wasted too much shit on meI can't feel carried when I'm baited.
>>569872892>will now leave for a year again for no reasonWhere did you hear that? I mean i get that it's probably miserable to grind Deadlock day in and out, especially when you're not even part of a lineup. Chances are the guy just wants to chill during the summer or isn't interested in full-time streaming or the 'pro' scene.
>>569769224this meme template is really overused and stretching its limits at this point
>>569872892who? Eido is /our guy/ now what Metro has been cancelled
I need to stop engaging with raging shitters with hostilityI need to start clowning on them
>>569876531from my experience if you just say *buuuuuurp* in team chat when they rage at you either they>go nuclear and at least provide you with a laugh before you lose>give up on raging and just try to play normally which may be recoverableit's really the best option to deal with ragers
>>569871526Urn isn't a good example of an extended fight
>>569877124it is in shitlow where nobody realizes the urn was already claimed so everyone just BROOLS until one team gets fully wiped
how do i learn this game
>>569877425Do you have any MOBA history
>>569877425pick a few heroes you like and queue with them.lose alot and learn from each loss.Dont get burnt out because you will have a lot of losses due to shitty teamates.focus solely on what YOU could have done better even if the end result would still be a loss
>light melee this guy 3 times>i stand still>he parries expecting the 4th>light melee him the 4th time lmao
>>569877124yes it is
>>569877573yes a little>>569877639who's a good shitter pick to learn the game? i like doorman but i might need more game+map knowledge to play him well i feel
>Hugging opponent as billy>waiting for the parry>eats a whole mag and a half while hugging>break and go for light melee>parriedMake it any more obvious you're using autoparry
>>569877931Autoparry is one of the main reasons I don't think light melees should be parryable, or at least shouldn't stun you for 12 seconds
Can a ShivGAWD post build? Are you always just supposed to go balls deep unga bunga CQC/ spam 2 all day or what?
>>569774883>"we have tons of data and our own vision so we gonna ignore player feedback and keep forcing our vomit ideas onto our playerbase!"Good, most players are retards. Data is more trustworthy than oafs that regurgitate opinions from streamers.
>lash player complaining about pride month>this was in asia regionwhat could he possibly have been complaining about?
>>569877753no it's not
>>569878216nigga just build greens you do a billion damage with 0 spirit investment if you just land your moves
when are we gonna get Slardar in this game?
Billy question, why have people thrown away Extra Charge/Rabid Recharge in his builds? For me bashdown is consistently 30%+ of my end damage so I always buy itMaybe its a crutch for aimlets like myself but surely its still viable?>>569875369His bashdown straight up bugs out half the time and doesn't bring people down
>>569878216Buy reverb later or rush it if ahead. The rest are counterbuys or greens. Don't even have to get torment pulse actually, you can replace it with snatch if you want burst (great with mystic shot) or whatever. Torment Pulse is just the good 'ol reliable. You can L->R this shit even.>Cold Front -> Radiant Regen -> Mystic Shot -> Healbane -> Dispel -> Pulse
>>569879013I go for it every game too
>Get sick of playing Victor and Seven>Try Grey Talon>Nobody can catch me because his flight practically has no downtime, melt objectivesHoly fuck this old man is FUN
>>569879014Appreciate it anon. Ive definitely been overthinking what should and shouldn't be there. Is spirit lifesteal into Leech worth it at all?
>>569879014What do you think about cooldown reduction and witchmail?
>>569879345When they finally rework his model he's going to get massively popular and promptly nerfed to shit
>>569879204Glad I'm not the only one then, like yeah sure it makes sense the high elo players prefer going for more gun since they can aim but bashdown has way too much utility to not buy those items IMO>>569879345He was broken bullshit before they buffed his escape tool>4 Stamina>50cd drone strike execute that gives you 10+ per spirit per kill>Flying so you can never catch him>Curse too because fuck youIt boggles my mind how this guy doesn't have a 55%+ winrate, the average player must be truly atrocious
Mo and Krill should be able to simultaneously shoot and melee, as it is two different niggas doing these actions after all
>>569879716>It boggles my mind how this guy doesn't have a 55%+ winrate, the average player must be truly atrociousI'm convinced it has to be because of retards doing full spirit owlbuilds, because he shits out gun damage like crazy with his flight
>>569879716Its kinda like how every doorman player is trying to be temu joechuck instead of bellhop hitler
They should add Tiny to Deadlock.
>pocket has one of the best escape tools in the entire game on low cooldowns>it'll always be a pocket going 0 and 19how the fuck dude
>>569880034This applies to Mina too. Minas love to feed their asses off
>>569879735This is retarded but I agree
>>569879862That makes sense, ironically you are better off rushing your 4.8k gun spike for a lot of spirit heroes like Pocket, Lash, Victor and GT before pivoting for your spirit + green spikes.Very cool of yoshi to give all the spirit heroes decent/good guns, how nice of him.
>>569880218tell that to calico, her gun is doodoo ass unless you jam it right up their colon
punching someone into a wall with exploding uppercut should stun them
>>569879013I always get it but it's usually late and I tend to just have extra charge unupgraded.It's really really good but I feel like there's other 3k's you want before it which fill your slots.
>>569880034Pocket is OP but he has a unique rat playstyle, you aren't meant to hold W and stat check people. This will confuse people and cause them to int until his kit clicks (playing around your ghost + ult to make the enemy team die IRL by a rage induced heart-attack BECAUSE HOLY FUCK you are uncatchable even with slowing hex)
>>569879453>spirit lifesteal into Leech No, spirit lifesteal is good but there's no item worth upgrading it to. Infuser is fun to use, but you don't need more than reverb lifesteal + radiant regen.>>569879547>cooldown reduction CompressCD on your dash once you have the T3 upgrade is extremely huge value. I usually buy CompressCD after Pulse if I have nothing else to buy, you get T3 dash at like 16600 souls. You need to find the timing to upgrade it to SCD though, but it's not worth sacrificing counterbuys for.>witchmailSituationally good, not a must buy. If you're dashing right, you don't need the CDR from this.
>>569877891Play Seven to get the map and timers learned. He is incentivized to frequently move around the map picking up farm, catching trooper waves, and only committing to important fights (urn, rejuv, walker defense), focusing instead on keeping the map in a good state and getting his power spikes. Internalizing the map, camp/buff/objective timers, good movement flow, is probably the best thing to accomplish first. Any roaming character is good for this too but Seven is probably the most straightforward to do it with as he isn't tech intensive to get decent with and is very comfortable to play if you're coming from other shooting games.Hop in the sandbox and check out basically every character to familiarize yourself with what they threaten. Lash, Dynamo, Billy, Paradox, Mo and Krill, Holliday are all heroes to pay attention to because they have very impactful abilities for controlling a team fight and counterplaying then requires actually understanding how those abilities work.
why didn't Arin at least put his peepee inside Mina's pockets before he an heroed to the public so he can live in the sewers?
What counts as an item procAffliction says it won't trigger them but it still ticks up EE stacks
>>569880838Pocket is for Mo ONLY
Why is she like this?
>Random Eternus 4 player in my high phantom/Low Ascendant lobbyOh godDon't tell me Ascendant is like this all the time.
>Flying Cloak's cooldown starts ticking while the cloak is outEvery time I think I've hit rock bottom on Pocket's bullshit I keep breaking into new territory, what the FUCK is valve thinking
>>569880827got it, thanks!
>>569881457It is in fact like thisAn Eternus player on a loss streak gets put in an Ascendant lobby and rapes everybody
>>569881595>Erm lets give his ult 100% antiheal because why not!The answer is obvious, they weren't.>>569881747FUCKKKKI've always hated the loss streak system>Have a bad few games?>GUESS WHAT BUDDY WE'RE GIVING YOU WORSE AND WORSE TEAMS>HARD CARRY OR ELSEI'm shocked more people haven't complained because its aids.
>>569881747>>569881457There is literally no difference between Oracle 1 all the way to Eternus 4
>play gun ivy>chase people and blast point blank the whole game with 15+ assists>win>15k damage>lose>12k damageI don't get it
Punching someone should turn them into a door.
Dynamo is done.Very fun if you can land your ult and your team can react to it in time.Healing tempo with max 3 is opFuck Yamato (free unstoppable)Fuck Kelvin (retard doesn't walk on the ground)
My dress up game got an update and it was the first night I spent not playing deadlock... I felt happier... I hope the next character batch has a healslut undead or ixian girl
>>569883045>Fuck Yamato (free unstoppable)Don't forget the point and click hook that goes through walls AND has charges too
>>569882002Ivy's gun is awful anon please stop building gun
>>569883397Hey at least it doesn't disable movement abilities (for now) and you can use 2.
it feels so good being able to tell your teammates to kill themselves.so refreshing that there's a multiplayer game with no moderation again.
>>569881457>get ivan ivanovich trying his fucking hardest to throw my games 6 times in a row>game gives me the baby nigger retard lobby as recompence and I go 20/0/14Thanks, Yoshi!!
>>569884236lol
I have a question, how do you guys play this game solo? I've only ever played it with friends and playing with only randoms seems overwhelming
>>569871068oh fuck off lmao
If you buy warp stone lasso someone has holliday and warpstone right as its about to end you can flind someone half way across the map its hilarious
>>569884854Game's unplayable solo nglBut stacks have their own issues too. You can and will be put again entire teams of E6 smurfs, and matchmaking in general breaks if your team have wildly different ranks
>>569877891Keep doorman but pick two others since there will be times you dont get your "main" due to not lucking out with bans and priority.If you like support roles, Rem is a good healer and has buffed actives while healing while Ivy is great for fire rate buffs, active sharing and mobility for herself and partner.If you feel overwhelmed with 4 abilities let alone active items, I suggest heroes such as Infernus and Haze that have upgradeable passive abilities.If you like being on the frontline with capable survivability and chaotic playstyles, I suggest tanky heroes like Abrams, Billy and Mo&Krill.Try them out in the lobby and check out the pubic builds in the buy menu to get different "flavors" of each hero
>>569884854Soloq is dogshit, you need to at least duo
>>569884506anyone who defends this MM saying it's "balanced" when it's either stomp or get stomped clearly does not know about how EOMM works
I yearn for those 10% of games where either team could win and it's an actual back and forth, instead of stomp or be stomped like the other 90%
>>569885153>You can and will be put again entire teams of E6 smurfsI think I went through that a few times? Sometimes we get our shit kicked in so fast and hard we don't even know what happened and there was a few occasions where there was two guys on our team that were stomping so hard we could walk away from the game and still win
I wish someone did a test to see if EOMM was really present in this gameit would explain a lot about why MM is so shitty or inconsistent
>Oh our green lane is winning? Let's lose just as hard to balance it out :)))
>>569885153love those matches where people in shitlow are supposedly coordinated enough to buy 6 curses and shadow weaves/veil walkers and perfectly seek out the most isolated player on the map to gangbang cc spam them in 2 seconds before moving on to the next most isolated target
>>569883621>q ivy as any other day>buy purples and greens in lane>bebop exists>"dude wtf you're building spirit???!1?">"ON IVY??!!!!">"wtf your gun is broken and you're building spirit">"wtf man, fuck you man">dies three times in a row and keeps talking shit like its my fault rest of the gamesomething broke inside me that day and every other time I lose building stone form echo there's this thought that I've been playing her wrong this whole time
>>569885924i keep seeing anons say the matchmaking sucks but this proves its actually working to create perfectly balanced games
>>569885924>Not playing exclusively in a 6-stackYou deserve every bit of suffering you get
>>569886116oh yeah? because that means it's balanced as if every ally lane is matched AGAINST each other... oh wait
>>569881945I wanna thank the genius who thought it was a good idea to pair you with people on a losing streak when you're already repeatedly losing as well; so you and your team have the worst fucking mental because of it.Bravo, Yoshi. Good "game".
>>569885807I've gone from seeker to ascendant from August of last year till now. No matter what rank I've been in, if I go on a loss streak I then get put in a lobby where the average rank is an entire tier below mine and my team proceeds to utterly stomp
>>569886197nigga do I really gotta treat this game like a college assignment where I have to group up with 6 other randos on some fuckoff community server? that in itself is a gamble
>>569885924I hate this shit so much>Win lane and kill guardian>Tab and check how my team is doing>0/5 Pocketnigger and 0/4 Infernigger on the other side of the map
>>569886039Why would you ever listen to a Bebop player They don't even build him correctly
how do you think an ascendant match between all biological girls - no trannys (A GAMING MIRACLE I KNOW) vs. all men would go?
>>569886925>ascendant match65 minutes and someone throws
player damage is an awful postgame stat because it makes 4/19 retards think they were actually being useful when all they did was throw themselves down blue on repeat and farm damage>you singlehandedly lost the match for us by making it 5v6 against gigafed enemies>BUHBUHBUH I TOP DAMAGEniggerbrain stat, remove it asap
why do billy players do 131 instantly in a 1v1?wouldn't it be better to save the 2nd bashdown for a reload and blasted extension?
>>569887182Technically what really matters is your damage to kill participation ratio
>>569886925that depends>a random group of girls that doesn't give a shit about winning the game and only uses the match to set up a bitch cunt hierarchy in their own teaminstant loss, that marvel rivals tourney already showed that>a random group of smelly girl neets that never showersabout even
How does Plated Armor 30% M1 deflection chance interact with Armor Piercing Bullets' 55% pierce-through-and-ignore-bullet-resist chance?
>>569886925girls at high ranks are either turbo autists or carried so its a 50/50
>>569887305>kill participationKP is meaningless because you get assists just for being close to a fight. You don't even need to do damage or heal or buff anybody involved.
TIL that APR can go through Kelvin's Dome. It doesn't affect McGinnis's wall though, just Kelvin's Dome.
>>569887403Rem's gonna inseminate Mina in her sleep later and her body will get ruined by the pregnancy as she ends up birthing an entire brood of little helpers. Serves her right!
realistically how hard would it be to set up a system that scores kills after buff/debuff for assists?game already somehow instantly knows who the "key" player was, so it's not that farfetched right?
>>569885924>You get 4 kills>Your teammates rack up 4 deaths
>Thread still upwewlad, anyway all my games have been shite + I'm getting performance issues/lag due to local infastructure shitting the bed making the games uncarryable + I'm just out of it since I'm not playing due to aformentioned reasons. How is KotH urn?
is it just me or is it even easier to climb ranks with victor than it is with graves?
who do i pick
>>569887801>Is it just me or is Victor busted opI don't know anon
>hey guys is the S+ tier hero good??
>>569887801i have an easier time with graves but victor is indeed the best carry rn
>>569887917i'm talking about victor being even more busted op than graves
>>569887516kill yourself
So how do you actually take advantage of Billy's melee potential when random ass parries come out of nowhere
>>569879947What are Rem's Lil Helpers for 200
>>569888023Yes, he is.He's even more braindead and actually does things without echo shard
>>569887516love yourself
>>569885924>neighbouring lanewhy dont you just go there you fucking idiotalso it looks like your lane got assisted by The Lash™ so you can't complain
>>569887516NOOOOOOOOOOOO that should have been me getting inseminated by him!!!!!!!!!!!
>>569885924>Marchmaking makes sure a boosted Victor player losesFucking BASED
>celeste ulted me better run into my entire team :D
What song do you think Shiv is bumping in his head?
>>569885924>victor player whiningjust go farm jungle camps until you become unkillable
>>569889063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdtaVBTSMRU&list=RDNdtaVBTSMRU
>hero has "low relative skill rating">get put in game three ranks above mine???
>>569889240are you engaged, anon?DO YOU FEEL ENGAGED? OPTIMIZED AND ENGAGED, ANON?
>>5698876656, actually.
>>569889063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ3W9ELXuV4
>play moba>forced 50/50>play brool>forced 50/50i hate
>>569885807Its not but there is some retard "features" that fuck things upRank certainty, getting stuck for many games in a rank makes it harder to leave the rank leading to smurf like situations Role bias, game prioritizes at minimum frontlines for each team, probably more roles too, meaning if there is no front in q it will grab way outside your rank range. Having no tank sucks but if you just pull an oracle tank into eternus and they go 0-11 its not much better There is also some unpopular realities of mm that are not fixable, new players take a long time to calibrate and smurf detection mechanisms just elongate this time with false positives. Mm only really works in full 6v6, if you dont have a full stack you are basically gambling and get very very long bad luck streaks. Im talking like 5 thousand solo games before the law of large numbers pulls you to the appropriate rank
>someone talks about how much damage has been done while the match is still goingWas he cheating? There's no option to see these stats while the match is in progress.
>>569889647>if you dont have a full stack you are basically gambling and get very very long bad luck streaksI don't have a consistent six-team full stack thoughso I'm not really sure of where to look...
>>569889668yeah it's a feature of the "qol mods" aka cheating
https://youtu.be/PxC4dWjurkQkeep this in mind when somebody says Initiate is too hard to carry in. these niggas are playing without keyboards or monitors.
>>569889831Damn, guess I have to report him. Will report his Steam profile as well just to be sure.
>>569889668>>569889831Cheat mods let you see both how much damage somebody has done AND how many unspent souls somebody has>I wonder what the guy with 5k unspent is saving up for. Let's go gank him!
>>569885807>EOMM?
>>569890114engagement optimizing matchmaking aka what every other multiplayer game has nowadays, including multiple valve games
>>569889668I just toss out random numbers because I have enough hours in the game to get a feel for it, but yes he was likely cheating with a "qol mod".
>>569890227what does this mean and what do you think it's replacing?
>>569889949he's going to immediately stop playing though once he inevitably gets to seekerthat rank is like smurf heaven for some reason, even worse than ritualist
>>569888130don't melee until the first parry comes out, then get your three free
>>569890602no. it's still just as low skill.
>>569890394Nta but basically the primary function of the matchmaking becomes engagement over making close games. There is studies that show if players lose X games in a row they will ragequit so eomm will give you free wins right before that pointThats also why I dont think this game has it because I can lose like 10 in a row
>>569890808I think this game has an EOMM, but it's pretty primitive compared to Marvel Rivals or Apex Legends
>>569858113>>569836256>Intensifying Mag>On Apollo>When Opening Rounds exists and is basically a mandatory item now
>>569890808>studies showgoyim sure love soience.
>Waah waah waaaahhh matchmaking is le badImagine how much worse Deadlock would be if it was like TF2 and you just got thrown into a match at random. Enemy team has a E6 and a E4 then four randos, your team has two fresh installs and a guy who's hardstuck Alchemist
>>569888240Not the same thing at all
>>569891014yea but netease actually published papers n shit on eomm, so too did EA so it's not like this whole thing is some random psuedo bro sicence or whatever
>>569886039PLAP PLAP PLAP (sorry didn't read)
>>569890996He has opening thobeit
>>569845070Every single character with a gun-related passive is the same. Shoot someone to deal... even more damage. For no reason.They should all be removed and replaced with abilities that require you to do something instead of just 'my gun is arbitrarily better than everyone else'
>>569891053>y'know shit tastes pretty awful, imagine eating straight up tar thoughthen I would just quit the game at that point? at least they're trying to actively improve the mm, or at least I hope they areTF2's been left to fucking die, it's no wonder the matchmaking for it is absolute shit.
>>569890808how is the match not balanced if everybody is the same rank?
>>569850135They need to remove or simplify the game's awful movement mechanics if they want to bring in more casuals.>>569891447He does, which is why it is retarded to get intensifying mag too, when it is flat out worse than opening rounds now.
>>569890808>Thats also why I dont think this game has it because I can lose like 10 in a rowI dont think this game has eomm, but it still somehow ends up being casino adjacent because playing solo q is one big miserable gamble anyway
>>569891603The rank is just a visual, everyone has a hidden number behind it. It could be that seeker is 1500mmr -3000mmr, and the game pairs two teams at either end of the spectrum. One team obviously favored but that is obscured by the rank
>>569885924>victor player complaining about anything at all
>>569886039bebop players are literal boosted retards that follow the designated metanigger build every timeall 3 colour ivy builds have pretty much always been viable in ivy to a certain extent and at different points some were better than the othersi think right now a more supportive gun build is slightly better because orange items are overtuned as shit and every spirit item got nerfed out the ass, but a few patches ago spirit ivy was better including like a few days/weeks ago during the turbo brool urn melee time because stone form was excellent at fighting for hmeleesivy's lane has always been pretty shit too, if he kept playing like an aggro retard it's his fault for expecting an ivy to perform like a doorman or apollo in lane
>play supah mah sunshene>hold up on the joystick>mario instantly moves forward>play deadlock>press w on my keyboard>character takes 3000000 business days to move foward, and only then they start clunkily sliding forward at the slowest paceis game development regressing?
>>569890808did it ever occur to you retards that if you lose 10 games in a row your rank will decrease and if you're actually higher rank you'll now be so much higher skilled than the lobby you'll be able to shitstomp it?because this happens to me often. I can tell when it places me in a lobby that's lower than my rank while I'm playing the match just based on how shitty everybody else is in the lobby and I just become the server administrator.
man for a solid week now im stuck in archon 1 -emissary VI so frustrating. In Emissary VI I win then I get archon I lose.Emissary VI and Archon I is not that big of a difference ;_;
>>569892026"uhhhh you belong in that rank!!!! lol if you can't carry in noob lobbies that's on you KEEEK get GUD!!">t. arcanist
>>569891882this is some quality cope. thanks.
>>569891934>play nin ten deeez>ma' faggets the tendies>die
>>569892235you can't actually see your exact mmr rank in numbers, or even the mmr numbers of other playersit's all just images n shit
>>569892265I accept your catcession.
i sure love how haze still exists since 2024 she's been annoying why have they just never dumpstered her
>>569892316use case of seeing the mmr number when you're still in the same bracket of players? the bottom 5-15% of players?
>>569891064They should add playable Little Helpers that play like Tiny to Deadlock.
>>569892667use case 1:it would help my sanity
>>569892780why does seeing 2100 help more with that than seeing seeker 3?
>>569892948Because then I could see my rem is 12 points lower than me so I can preemptively flame him
>>569892676what do you mean?
>>569892948so I don't have to manually go onto statlocker to look at another player's performance; this is something that should be a feature in the game to begin with, at least as some optional toggle if the idea of looking at numbers bothers you that much.
>>569893107and that's why you're hardstuck seeker.anything but taking responsibility for playing like shit.
>haze is invisible>shoot her>while shes running she's still invisible>dip behind one corner and you lose herthese people made spy from tf2 with an actual downside to invisibility why exactly is haze allowed to do this?
do eternus players actually have jobs and a life or what
>tankbuster schizo won because they broke how items and resists interactawesome
>>569893369wait so it's good now??
>>569893196>>569893307
>>569893369QRD?
>>569893307I don't know why anons like to project this idea of shifting responsibility if you think another teammate is also playing like shityes I can play shit, yes I can study the replays and improve, that's what I do normally; but the guy that goes 0-12 in lane probably has no fucking future and will be hardstuck in shitlow for the rest of time.
>friend someone after a match>now i can never play by myself because everytime i play Deadlock they want to queue up with me>they're fucking awful at the game too
>>569893310Invis isnt real in this game they are always a faintly visible shimmer
>go through eido's match history>almost all of it is pocketchrist
>>569893807why would you friend someone you don't want to play with?
>>569894010Most of NA's pro scene is full of shitty one tricks who can't play the game if it isn't on the most busted shit imagineableIts why they keep getting their asses handed to them by Europeans.
matchmaking is broken, unreliable and unfair. Same thing with the ranking system.
>>569894127>NA teams with jobs keep losing against unemployed EU teams that do nothing else except play Deadlock all day and live off of government money or Deadlock prize moneyI mean yeah
>>569894337>>>https://www.reddit.com/r/DeadlockTheGame/
>>569894127Rent free lmao
>>569894454even better. forums.playdeadlock.com but I'm saving the full post for next thread.
>analyze others' gameplay>30 mins of me going, "yeah yeah ok, he should've done that instead. okay">get into a game>analysis brain shuts offwh. whuh? where'd my mental stacks go all of a sudden? I just enter analysis paralysis every time I try to look at the map in the middle of a match
>>569893439>>569893674Tankbuster, witchmail and the like would ignore resists and just focus on the initial proc.So if your ability does exactly 165 damage you proc tankbuster, but now, if you buy even a single resist item it lowers the damage and stops the TB proc.It's raped.
>>569894995Zoomers call that folding under pressure. You need to practice your zen state of mind.
>>569882002Your scaling is shit. SHIT.Ivy gun is for applying crippling headshot and Capacitor. Actual dps items like +fire rate/weapon damage are terrible on Ivy
>>569894785whohyou weren't joking
>>569891471/dlg/ will defend this design to their last breath because those heroes are carries so they need those passives to carry late game, but /dlg/ of course will ignore the fact that this also makes them good the moment that ability is unlocked in lane but if you disagree you are seeker
>>569895206>maybe you should reconsider if your post is appropriate.>The Matchmaking is supposed to be extreme its a playtest, to gather as much data as possible matchmaking needs to be extreme they want to have that data to fine tune a ranking system for the launch, therefore you get opponents and teammates which might be very good or very bad. All that so you get a polished matchmaking at release.so in short YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN MY LITTLE KEKCOWLET YOSHI MILK YOU FOR MORE DATA MMMMMMMM GIVE HIM THE DATA YOU UNGRATEFUL KEK
>>569895206it's fun to read that website. this bozo has become my favorite lolcow there.
They don't read the forum, retards. Don't even bother.
>>569895520Yoshi replied to my post asking for brool to be random champs only...
>>569895520apollo and doorman was brought into being by suggestions posted to the forumsthat's also how we got mina's parry animation and paige's ability name changes
>>569895405yes because it's good design.just like sven having a cleave ability is good design.lifestealer having lifesteal is good design.drow/luna having increased auto attack damage is good design.I don't know what shitty game you losers came from but you should probably go back.
>>569879014cold front is an old meme on shiv
>>569895503it's like these people know they're shit at a character but it's the only character they're good at in their eyes so they just continue to play it
>>569895782>Honestly Bebop has no viable builds in general, he can't confirm melee hits and he has no way to bait them either. You can build whatever you want on him it really won't matter since you'll always be dependent on your team to get kills.
ok so if I make suggestions and that makes me a retarded lolcow that needs to climb out of shitlow and shitmid, and eternus players helping the devs balance the game is "bad", then how fuck can the game be improved at all if no one is allowed to give suggestions or feedback? they can't just telepathically grab data out of our brains and use that to improve the game
>>569894995It's easier to critique than to actually do it yourself in the moment
>>569896002don't expect anybody to take your post seriously if your complaint is:>my team sucks I'm a God Gamer that's why I can't climb in rank
enemy team had:>Gun Ginnis>Haze>Hybrid Drifter>Silverbought Juggernaut and that pretty much won me the gameit was really funny seeing Silver die before she could wolf out when she was tearing up the lobby before that.
>>569895664Did he tell you to get fucked?Brool not being random is actually killing it
>>569896280No he just said thanks for the feedback and added the extra rerolls if you pick random an update later
>>569895735I accept your concession.
>>569895460what useful data could you possibly gather from making the matchmaking utter dogshit? neverfuckingmind that it's literally no different in quality than any of valve's other, released products.
>>569896271Forgot to add there was a Seven too. I could not have picked a better counter item.
>>569895780You can also do extra charge and spirit strike for the 1600 if you think you can rape the laning phase.
>>569879862>retards doing full spirit owlbuildsit's fun
>>569896002Hmmm, it's almost like some random anon from a vidya board insulting you doesn't mean those insults have to be taken as truth or literal hmmm
Smurf on Initiate? That's just my Emissary account queuing with my boys on Initiate. You probably have a high rank guy on your team, too. Just look for the random who's tilted more than you.
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>when the enemy Rem ults and you "WE HAVE YOU NOW" snatch him out of the air and Mo pummels him and he fvckin DIES and drops a 2k bagkeep up the pressure Maurice!
>>569886039Ivy sucks in lane. Stone Form echo is broken as shit. Her gun scaling sucks and she only gets to exist because capacitor/siphon doesn't care about this fact. She's still worse than m1s with actual steroids. Might as well just play paradox if you want to fuck around with aoe slop builds cause it's way way stronger. She's only actually good at supporting because of global presence, cc, buffs.
>>569895735Explain how it is good design that some characters (the easiest ones to play already) only need to use 3 abilities and just get a better gun than everyone else.
