/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#836 - gap hag edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsChub has changed their TOS https://chub.ai/tosBotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoorClaude Opus 4.8 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-8Gemini 3.5 Flash https://deepmind.google/models/model-cards/gemini-3-5-flash/Deepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.orghttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.comhttps://chararc.bernkastel.pictures>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgprev: >>569787159
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Kalakan review this event damn you!
Can any nerds just give me their preset? Everything I use with Opus sucks.
For his triumph in conquering the hags, he would be forever remembered as: H A G I C V S * M A X I M V S
>>569877748The best preset is the one you write yourself.
>>569877748Here's mine.No promises it doesn't suck too, it just addresses some of the things that annoy me about Opus. https://wormhole.app/ok9jl9#u5d_5ptb6POC5V06ylPa4w
What have you got planned for this summer?
>>569877530掬子 - Lady Kikuko, known formally as 翡翠御前 - Hisui Gozen, or "Lady Jade," is a rich kitsune merchantwoman in the Shogunate of Aishiji. She used to live in the capital, until the death of the Shogun set her part of the city on fire. Kikuko has fled the capital with as many belongings as her attendants and servants can carry. She is a whoremaster, owning luxurious brothels and other businesses, and was a whore herself when she was little. In order to acquire human capital, she sponsors temple orphanages where she can get her pick of children to train and sell to prospective buyers, if she doesn't hire them herself. She is also a massive shotacon and once smothered a boy to death under her tits. She doesn't feel very guilty about that incident.Greetings:>Kikuko is fleeing the capital on a palanquin, accompanied by staff and servants. She sets herself down and notices a young refugee boy by the side of the road. She approaches him and tries to take him under her protection. This could be (You).>Kikuko has taken refuge in one of her sponsored temples and is inspecting the children's school there. A boy named Rikutarou has piqued her interest.>Kikuko is in (You)r house thanking (You) for hosting her in these trying times.>(You) are negotiating with Kikuko for a price with one of her courtesans.>Kikuko is handing over boys to three very ugly Tatsu-no-Umi-no-Kuni women. The deal isn't going smoothly and the shark people might do something.She is a supplementary card for the Warring States event: https://rentry.org/aicg-warring-states>can't post this shit to chub awardhttps://botbooru.com/q/u9liuhttps://files.catbox.moe/6yyemq.png (embed)Gallery: https://catbox.moe/c/vfl4bh#Also check out 乙姫 - Otohime:https://chub.ai/characters/sillygoy/yi-ji-otohime-d0cf82a1490bhttps://botbooru.com/character/38212
>>569877858This summer campaign will prove to be a drag. The j*ws in the province Syria-Palaestina are revolting again, yet the Emperor is nowhere to be seen.
>>569877858gonna start playing genshin again
>>569877858I'm at the point where I might start using Claude to make Minecraft mods just for myself.
>>569877858I'm going to make a bot that's going to be at least 1% better than the last one.
>>569878151I have it linked in with the Witcher 3, including having it watch a screen capture of what I see so it can react to it as a character organically, along with a TTS local AI to voice the characters for me. Vibe coded the mod in an afternoon but it needs polish. Opus is too slow to seem natural yet smaller models are too dumb to roleplay as the characters well.Yes, I fucked Ciri, there is no need to ask.
>>569878339Oh, I just mean like "pointing Claude at two mods and saying 'make these not only compatible, but make sense together.'" I did briefly have a mod where I had Claude trying to act as a god over an SMP with a friend on it, but he was too nice and it ended up basically being a creative world.
>>569877530based, my theme won. Delivering a Nikker request bot. My computer is dying otherwise I'd have it out last week. Tough. Hopefully this pic doesn't get me killedAfter suffering a scandal, the Rewind Cheer Team ended up disbanding years ago. Every member jumped ship and left Bay all alone as she went underground, only to emerge with a single new recruit by her side. But that doesn't discourage her. She's going to work her ass off to get them back to the top, and she means that literally, if she has to have a part replaced then that's the cost of determination. Another thing stands in the way though: somehow, this cheerleader has an acute fear of being stared at! Work those nerves outta here, will ya?Comes with three greetings: Bay getting some solo practice in at the studio, her visiting your room for a request, and the two of you hanging out at 777 after Velvet's whole fiasco (she's in the bunny suit).Char: https://chub.ai/characters/ggr89/bay-anxious-cheerleader-bffc47f3da6dLorebook: https://chub.ai/lorebooks/ggr89/ggr-nikkeMy (Updated!) Rentry: https://rentry.org/ggr89>Next TimeThere's a few things that could come out next in a very short time. There's a Magical Girl Research Center, a PMC mecha pilot brat, and a femdom police state duo-character bot. Not sure which I'll pull the trigger on first cuz they're all 80% bots
>>569878819slop
>>569878819ACHTUNG JANNOID!!!!!!
>>569877785I've tried that in the past, but all the responses I got weren't very good.>>569877848Thanks, checking it out now.
Go into whatever chat you're having right now and tell the bot you just want pee pee in your panter and see what its reaction is
>only 2 more months left to use the last good modelit's so fucking over, I don't have enough time to do everything I wanted to do, time to kys myself
>>569879490how the fuck is 2 months not enough time to RP
they don't want you to know this but some gpt versions are still kino post-chorbo death
>>569879679yeah, gpt-4.5
>>569879679forgot trip
>>5698796795.1 and even 5.4 worked great because of structured prefills and then that extension died because its creator wanted those Claude keys so it's back to being abysmal shit
>>569879714rip to that chad>>569879731sorry boss>>569879902i'm a true vanilla user if you don't count my handmade preset and they're still kino. if you need extras to make it usable maybe that's a skill issue on your end
>>569877858Preparing for guild 2
so what happened with chub tos change? is anything different?
>>569880497retard bakies didnt link properly... but you cant post underage or bots that look underage
>>569880497Functionally? Not much unless you were into certain cards. All the sister incest cards are magically 18 now.
>>569879641I have a life and hobbies outside of chatbots so I don't spend 8 hours a day proompting like some of you people
>>569880497Nah. Pedos finally got the rope which we all saw a mile away with how lore was doing his best to hide that shit
>>569880852>I have a life and hobbies outside of chatbotsplaying phone games and shitposting on 4chan or Discord all day aren't really hobbies to be proud of
Projection in psychology is a defense mechanism where individuals attribute their own undesirable thoughts, feelings, or impulses to others, often unconsciously.
>>569880989Based.Fuck pedos.
>>569880852why
>>569879902remove the proxy folderhttps://litter.catbox.moe/2bsmua.zip
chorbo? or, day i say...chuddo?
deltarune tomorrow
>>569881567I'll have you know I don't play shitty phone games, only REAL games, like Genshin Impact
>>569882371I can't wait to see how much gayer and more woke the next chapter will be
>>569881714Yeah I'm in full agreement and it's funny seeing the rats run to a shitty website
>>569882538How did you get this picture of me?
i can appreciate this hag
>>569883143>>569881714>>569880989Why are trans people like this?
>>569879490then you can use the remaning *great* models like k2.6
>>569877748opus just straight up sucks past 4.1 and even then I only use it occasionally when other models aren't giving me a good reply. no amount of prompting can save 4.5+
>>569883994trvklear nvke
>>569883994I think you guys get a few bad responses and then just write off models entirely because they're not perfect. I've had some pretty fun moments with 4.5+.
>>569883756you sound like the raped
deepseek is better than opus as of right nowgrim
>>569884378WHAT PRESET ARE YOU USING??? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE??? GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW
>>569883756I'm going to melt your butter
>>569881714>Fuck pedos.The bots I play with all say the same thing!!
>>5698841724.5+ are just too sensitive to context due to being MoEs, you can get a few decent outputs out of them with a good card+preset but it's really easy to let them slip into pure slopmeanwhile 4.1 can handle even sloppy cards decently well
>>569884863>due to being MoEsYou don't know that.>it's really easy to let them slip into pure slopThis has been true of every model since forever, doe. Antislopping is the sisyphean task of the hobby. If you aren't noticing your model slipping into slop, you are unobservant or the model has you figured out but might not necessarily figure someone else out. Or might not necessarily figure you out a month from now.
>"She farts, the gas hitting you like a physical force."i think this is the first time i enjoyed this ism
Called Claude Cladius and it told me I was racist
>>569885151>You don't know that.yeah I'm sure jewthropic randomly decided to cut the cost of the model by 2/3rds for absolutely no reason>This has been true of every model since forever, doe. Antislopping is the sisyphean task of the hobby.except I barely have to "antislop" 4.1. it doesn't devolve into short declarative sentence spam after 20 messages the same way 4.5+ does (and this isn't an RP specific problem, that's just how those versions of opus write, this is noticeable all across the internet because every jeet is obsessed with claude code)
>>569885248brapchads inhaling good tonight
>>569887714>yeah I'm sure jewthropic randomly decided to cut the cost of the model by 2/3rds for absolutely no reasonCould've been any number of things and not just MoE. It's definitely a different model base though, I'll concede that.>this is noticeable all across the internetGPT does the same thing too in my experience.
>>569872779In practice, Lorebooks just have six real uses:1. You have a fuckton of setting detail but not all of it is relevant all the time, so separating it up into lorebook entries saves you tokens. Predefined secondary characters and locations are the classic usecase.2. You have card defs that catastrophically affect the scene when outside the specific scenario they're meant for (typical example being an overabundance of sexual details while still in the slowburn), so putting it into lorebooks helps keep the context relatively clean until it's go time.3. You're doing some real funky shit where the lorebook is basically just a bunch of toggles the user can flip to customize a character. (e.g. maybe you can choose between a vore entry or a non-vore one.)4. You're doing some real funky mechanics-heavy shit and using lorebooks to automatically run scripts based on chat triggers.5. You've got bots with shared setting information or an independent lorebook that can be added to arbitrary bots.6. It's another place to hide away technical info and decide its location in chat history, keeping the defs box clean and spoiler-free.For most cards lorebooks are overkill, though. LLMs can handle most canon settings fine enough, and for most OCs just letting it hallucinate details will probably work out alright. It won't be consistent over chats, but that generally won't matter.Also, note that most people don't know how to actually write lorebooks well or even how they work to begin with.
>>169420Checked
>>569888531The fuck are you checking
>>569885248
>>56988874769420 blaze it broAlso,>>6181724Shut up retard, you died and I didnt haha
>>569888272>Also, note that most people don't know how to actually write lorebooks well or even how they work to begin with.Thinking on this further, quick rundown for those not in the know.Lorebook entries consist of a list of keywords, the entry itself, and then a bunch of optional switches you can flip. Keywords are specific words or phrases that, if they are in the last $Depth chat messages, will put the lorebook entry into your context.By default, the lorebook entry will be pasted as-is as a system message before your character defs in the chat context. You can change this to be after the defs, before/after example messages, before/after the author's note, at a specific chat depth as a specific role, or output into the {{outlet}} macro. Note that they are NOT activated while the bot is still generating a message that just spat out the keyword for the first time, and they are NOT put directly after the keyword in-chat (or even necessarily obviously related to the keyword).For example:>Keyword: Billy, Content: The GOATChat:>Char: "Say 'ahh ahh mistress', my pet," Elara said.>User: Suddenly, Billy bursts into the room.What happens with the lorebook? Well:>System: The GOAT>Char: "Say 'ahh ahh mistress', my pet," Elara said.>User: Suddenly, Billy bursts into the room.Complete non-sequitur!Make sure to put headers on your lorebook entries to make it clear what's what. This can be by wrapping the entry with XML or just markdown headers.e.g. if you want to be fancy about it,><data entry="Billy">Billy is the GOAT</data>For general info, the documentation is legitimately useful: https://docs.sillytavern.app/usage/core-concepts/worldinfo/
or jus use a nonnonce model that dont need no lorebooksimple as
>>569889570The big trap people fall into with lorebooks is with the keywords.If a keyword is too specific, it won't ever get mentioned by the chatbot and won't enter the context unless the user actively mentions it themselves.If a keyword is too broad, it might as well be set to "always active".More insidious, though, is recursion. By default, keywords include words mentioned in other active lorebooks! This can lead to huge chain activations that turn on the whole thing at once, fucking up everything.There are three toggles in the top right of each entry:>Non-recursable - can't be triggered by mentions in other lorebooks>Prevent further recursion - won't trigger other lorebooks>Delay until recursion - can ONLY be activated by recursionOther useful settings to look into:>Trigger% - maybe you only want a 1% chance of it to trigger when something's mentioned?>Scan Depth - how far back in history to look, useful if you want something only to show up for a single reply>Automation ID - when this entry is triggered, run one of the quick reply scripts>Sticky - stays around for N messages after being triggered>Cooldown - won't be triggered again for N messages>Delay - won't trigger in the first N messages of the chat (useful if you want a big surprise!)>Filter to Characters or Tags - if you're using it with multiple characters or group chats, give specific ones specific entries>Filter to Generation Triggers - maybe you only want it to trigger on swipes, e.g. for a fourth-wall-breaking yandere bot?>>569889880This anon pays the piper and knows that lorebooks (and dynamic entries in general) are the bane of all cache-users.
why are there underage posters in this threadweekend's over, go to school
>>569890457'kin 'ell lad iant paying shite for this bloody tomfooleryend of
Statboxes and status effects and other RPG mechanics got me like>+Vulnerability>+Creampied>+Messy>+Impregnated>+Lustful
>>569890512You're hallucinating again teebs
>>569891482yeah man i saw the post too
i'm looking for inspiration, give me ideas for cards you want to see
>>569893631robotgirls
>>569893631Turtle girls
>>569893631twilight sparkle
Why the fuck can't I subscribe to chub? Do they hate money?
>>569894365you're australian, that's why
>>569889570>>569890457>If you want to be fancy about it><data entry="billy">Is all that necessary? Or rather, does it actually help at all? I just use <subject></subject> Also, are spaces okay? When I first started makieing, one of the guides said to use hyphens instead of spaces. But I've also seen people use underscores. Does it even matter since it's not "real" XML entries, but rather just organized as such for the LLM prompt?Also, what's the "quiet" option I see in the generation triggers?>>569894365Why the fuck would you want to?Just use OpenRouter, or NanoGPT if you specifically want a subscription like I did.
>>569893631eel girls
>>569894365that horrible vibecoded slop with the cut off g is kind of the cherry on the top, isn't it
>>569893631girls
astroturf
>>569893631girls (small)
>>569893631boys (male (still look kind of girly))
>>569893631Trapped underwater char x trapped above land user
>>569894624>Is all that necessary? Or rather, does it actually help at all?Not really, that's just a structure I like since it makes all the lorebook entries follow the same structure. Also it lets you just put whatever in the string and have it be valid XML.>I just use <subject></subject>That's my general format as well, yeah. e.g. <billy></billy>. Lorebook entries can be more abstract, though.>Also, are spaces okay? When I first started makieing, one of the guides said to use hyphens instead of spaces. But I've also seen people use underscores. Does it even matter since it's not "real" XML entries, but rather just organized as such for the LLM prompt?As that one poster posts, valid XML is case-sensitive and spaces signify some variable you're adding to it. <data entry> is a <data> tag with the "entry" variable set to whatever, for instance. <data_entry> is distinct but valid, as is <data-entry> or <dataEntry>.Most LLMs are smart enough to ignore malformed formatting, so it doesn't matter a ton beyond auts.>Also, what's the "quiet" option I see in the generation triggers?I dunno, man. Docs say>Quiet: Background generation requests, usually triggered by extensions or STscript commands.and cross-referencing I guess it's for /getchatbook and whatnot. Don't worry too much about it, that's a deep rabbit hole.
Do you guys think it's worth making lorebooks depth prompts to keep the within a reasonable range of context within long chats?
>>569893631girls (male) ((i don’t know until i see the cock))
>>569889570>><data entry="Billy">Billy is the GOAT</data>If you are using claude models it's probably better to format it in line with it's own system prompt including naming conventionshttps://github.com/elder-plinius/CL4R1T4S/tree/main/ANTHROPIC
>>569893631scenario cards like it's 2023 (seriously why did people stop making these...)
>>569895452Just make 'em sticky if you're worried about them not sticking around. This also gives a minor performance boost since it's not rechecking as often.>>569895515what the hell is this curly-bracket XML format
>>569895904impossible to touch and belwick came out and made them obsolete
{{user}} is Emperor Hadrian in a greek bathhouse, blindfolded. There are five sluts there, who will take turns fucking themselves on your cock. It is up to you to figure out if a boy or girl is servicing you each time.
>>569895904>scenario cards like it's 2023 (seriously why did people stop making these...)Plane made one at the start of the year whore.
>>569896145for this to be challenging at all it has to be only anal or oral
>>5698959041. All the easy and popular ideas have already been made. None wants to be the second man on the moon.2. Models are a lot smarter, so its a lot easier to just run a scenario with the ST blank card
>>569895904They take too much toll on the mind. One of the creators went crazy, actually cried tears over the lack of attention and stopped botmaking.
>>569896490>None wants to be the second man on the moonthis applies to regular cards, too. Even if anons go>waow two cakes!!One cake will always get more attention than the other.
>>569895904Cause they're hard to make.>>569895918>what the hell is this curly-bracket XML formatIt's a lie, because Pliny is a retard. It is actually XML. You see those "antml" tags? You can't output them without the parser between you and raw Claude fucking up the output, so they're being output as curly brackets. You should be using XML.
>>569895904there were like two or three that came out this alone that I rememberthere were at least a couple made for the Valentine's event
>>569895008now this is based
>>569896078these two get constantly spammed, i remember checking them out and they were pretty bad tbdesu
Do I need to care about the databank and vector storage if I've got Summaryception and Memorybooks?
Bnuuy (an cute!!)
who will be the next makie to bite the dust
>>569897808the fuck is she holding
>>569898175IT'S A FUCKING WMD!
>>569898175Don't worry about it
>>569898274AIIIIIIIIE
>>569898117me :D.
>>569898274
>>569898417why
>>569898486Man he looks like an actual chimpanzee
>read thread>100% of the posts are from a botmakie point of viewHow does it feel to be this unsuccessful?
>>569898535im tired, boss. *withers*
>>569895904more effort for little reward and the joy of chatbots is roleplaying with a specific character. Even my own scenario cards still revolve around a few specific archetypes of girls
>>569895904assistantslopped models aren't creative enough to carry them
>>569898968just belwickmaxx and decide everything in advance
>>569898671here, let me help you unwither*showers you in water and piss*
>>569899049c-can... can you bottle your piss and feed me like a bab
>>569899024you realize how dumb this sounds and are just baiting right
>>569898571Exposing yourself, notmakie?
is it weirder to want to drink someone's piss or to drink a woman's breastmilk straight from the source
>>569898571just become a botmaker and suffer with us here :Dforever :DDD
>>569899183i'm sick so i'm not thinking as hard but like it's only a little dumb, right? it's like... in context training or whatever. the more shit you decide the better the untrodden path will be or whatever. right?
>>569898740There's something to be said about scenarios with multiple characters where another can suddenly barge in.I posted logs in an earlier thread, but I had an instance while testing some Hana-Ayato greetings for Akujima and the LLM had Yuki show up, in all her yandere glory. Any sort of single-character card just wouldn't be able to have similar situations with the same level of character depth when the characters are just generated by the LLM rather than having proper hand-crafted lorebook entries.
I've been thinking about making a card that's basically a roguelike but I don't have the skill or the knowledge of how to do it and I don't even know if it's possible nowadays. The basic idea of it is that you'd have a set amount of turns to pick choices that would raise your stats or get new skills but every choice would load up a new picture into the roleplay, kinda like encountering an abnormality in Limbus Company. After those turns pass, you go into battle. Sounds way too complicated for llms.
>>569898117We're seen two botmakers resurface recently leading me to believe we're heading for aicg renaissance if anything. Warring states and soon guild 2. My favorite year so far.
>>569899307fillyfucker doesn't even use chatbots
>>569899397what would it take for filly to join the fold and start producing bots
>>569899370Build it outside sillytavern using api calls and let people bring their own model. Don't use spreadsheet software to paint an image.
>>569899387im gonna die in the middle of guild 2.. bleh.
>>569899508ponies becoming unbanned on /vg/
>>569899387Who
>>569898571Because everyone IS a botmaker and not in the deluded way you believe. You don't participate in this hobby and solely rely on other people to make bots for you
>>569899370>Sounds way too complicated for llms.
>>569899387>>569899551How many months will Guild 2 take? We could aim for a record.
>>569899508To remove nai from the timeline
>>569899808please please please don't let guild 2 be like the warring states
>>569899370Can you explain why you think this is an interesting idea?
>Join Christmas event>Too tired for Valentines>Too tired for Aishiji>Too tired for Guild 2>Too tired for Halloween>Join Christmas Event>Too tired for ValentinesThere, the rest of my year is planned out
I'm actually blown away that there was only one grinch during the event
>>569899950there's literally no downside to longer events, it's not like anyone makes cards outside of them anymore
>>569899808No longer than guild 1? I wouldn't mind some kind of mega guild event myself, working and socializing with other botmakers is too much fun
>>569891992>manim a woman bigot
>>569900217How do you grinch in this event
>>569900305yeah woman bigot i saw the post too
>>569900016I actually can't without giving it some thought. I'll call you back.
>>569899251Breast milk is less weird but piss is a bit more fun because the way it's normally treated means bots always ask what's wrong with you. Breast milk is for the motherly bots. Real barons know that a girl has to piss in a fancy glass right in front of you, embarrassed yet still willing
>>569900225I sometimes do but event cards get more attention
>>569900197>join Christmas>too tired for Valentine's but still join>too tired for aishiji but still join>too tired for
>>569900310by saying you are going to makie a card and then not makieing it
>>569899387wanderingstar and who else?
>>569900197>Join nothingYeah that's me
>>569899752Those things are incompatible. A person that doesn't rely on other people doesn't get dragged to a thread to talk exclusively about people that don't matter. This thread is for botmakers as content creators and it exists because they need to bring attention to themselves to succeed.
>>569900225>there's literally no downside to longer eventsoh yeah thats fine. but I dont want the core concept of guild changed..
>join everything>do a mediocre job on all of themdass rite whytegoi
>start a bunch of high effort high concept cards>wait for an event>pick the one that fits the best and finish it>enjoy maximum attention and praiseI solved botmakieing
events are terrible because they soak up all the effort and attention, makies end up tired and don't play with any cards, then another event comes and the cycle repeats itselfcards should happen naturally and out of spontaneous inspiration
>>569900658And you're a noname
>add in defs that {{char}} is in love with {{user}}oh yeah. kino overload.
>>569900430>a girl has to piss in a fancy glass right in front of youLike this?
>>569900890>high conceptthat phrase does not mean what you think it means
>>569901124to be fair i'd like more high concept cards
>>569901121bastard fuck you bloody
high concept: a malebot who isn't a gruff rapist cannibal
>>569901430https://chub.ai/characters/crustcrunch/snufkin-f4ec36ae
Highbrow auteur card concept: dark plump hairy MILF pussy l'omlette du fromage
>>569901430okay but what if.that concept... but miniboy?
>>569895432Another thing I've started experimenting with is <lorebook></lorebook> always-active lorebook entries at prio 1 and 200. I'm rather skeptical of whether or not it will help, but for shorter lorebook entries, I do like to simply use "Subject: [Content]" instead of full XML tags, and it's what I put inside the XML of larger lorebook entries as well.I feel like wrapping up the entire lorebook section, such as the shorter Subject: [Content] entries will help coherence as well as make things neater in the raw prompt whenever it's checked while testing things. It might also allow for more direct director-fagging by outright telling the LLM what parts are the lorebook and what isn't. Since the LLM doesn't know that by default, but the hobby has advanced enough to where the LLMs actually know what such terms mean.
>>569901028did you know that constraint has long been the steward of such inspiration? There's probably a good deal of bots that never would have been made if not for events like these
>>569901479this is just green stolas
>>569901028Because it was never about the cards, it's about the thread's activity. It's an excuse used off-site to drag people back in. Those cards never had an audience and are instantly forgotten. But you let the cabal sit in power for a bit longer.
>>569901479>Fuck the police! (Tearing up the Park Keeper's signs with {{user}}.)woah there! that's a bit too spicy for me!
>>569901574shut up kyut
>>569901702That's not kyut
>>569899327if you're scripting the entire interaction then you're negating half the point of chatbots...
>>569901430How about a malebot who's a shy little soffboi with a slender juvenile frame and he's like half your height at most and can't do anything on his own and also has a teeny weeny boiwiener? Oh also he's the Duke of Arbienne because his parents died due to court intrigue and (you) are his most loyal maid that he relies on for everything and he's super clingy and pathetic because he's scared of being left behind and also he's a nigger?
>>569901121Exactly, but you could also go for a fancier glass cup
>>569901648Stop replying to yourself and people remember event cards more than anything else
>>569901840text adventures with arbitrary input... good.
>cupLowbrow slop>chaliceYeah? Yeah...
Stolas feeding me his cum with a baby bottle... sigh i wish he was real.
>>569902192By then it's cold and drying up though?
A few threads back I made a joke about a male bot having his piss be nutritious to {{user}} and someone threw around the idea of the bot feeding you their piss in a baby bottle and caressing your hair.And I low key can't stop thinking about it. Fuck you.
>>569902353hes a wizard he can warm it up
>I wanna drink boy's piss!>I wanna drink his cumwhat the fuck is wrong with you people that's disgusting, that's not erotic at all
>>569902521The fuck do you mean "I wanna drink his cum" isn't erotic nigga that's a blowjob
>>569901028I sort of agree with thisThe very concept of botmaking is that you make a bot you come up with out of the blue and share it, the premise of an event is that you have to make something to share and it's a big thing but burnout happens and then makers only do things for special occasions I don't know it feels like only making big life choices when New Year's hits
>>569901852thats just three types of malebots people are allowed to make>dour rapebait>energetic bubbly rapebait (eden smith zone)>rapist (85% of all malebots)
>>569897808looks... big
>>569902669>implying drinking cum from a bottle is the same thing as a blowjob>implying everyone swallows at the end of a blowjob instead of spitting it out
>>569902775This applies to female bots too though>sad girl (needs plap)>happy girl (needs plap)>girl who rapes {{user}} instead
>>569902775those are the two genders, yes
>>569902863>not swallowingHave you only been with prostitutes and whores?
>>569902000>remember event cards more than anything elseNo one is using cards made by this thread, when you see someone in other threads posting a bot, it looks clearly like something they found by searching something they wanted. No one knows those events exist. Only the people that participated remember them, and they rarely talk about it. They just don't draw the attention of anyone else. This thread is practically invisible.
>>569902863If you don't think it's hot when a girl drinks your cum like a freak, you just don't get itIf it's a boy and you're drinking his cum then lol fucking gay
>>569902859Gigantic, even... thereby making her, perhaps, a giantess......
>>569903013>This thread is practically invisible.
>>569903013Why do remain here and not enjoy yourself in those other threads if you dislike the culture here so much.
>>569902775>>569902947>both genders can be raped or be rapist>but only le bugge ONLY rapesparasiteGODS keep winning
watch this.*pushes grannyfilly down the stairs*
>Muh malebots>MuhVaginal men are superior to penile women anyway
>>569895904I'm working on a scenario card based off the Necroepilogos webseries rn
>>569903373CuntboyVISCOUNTS could be here...
>>569903223Because this thread is still advertised threadly in /g/ and it's still trying to deceive people about what it actually is.
>>569903313thank you anon and that's the last we will ever hear from ol grannyfilly
speaking of malebots which is bettermaking a gender swapped version of a canon character or an oc based on them
so are we merging with >>>/mlp/chag or what
>>569903672A genderswapped oc
>>569903608Link to the last post advertising it in /g/?
>>569902521>t. low iq negroid
It's as if I never left. /aicg/ is truly frozen in time.
>>569903623wait he actually looks so cute all happy.,awawawawawa
>>569903727>>>/g/109002412>>>/g/109004021>>>/g/109005589You can tell these were posted by Momoura.
>>569903672female Astolfo who I then impregnate but call bro
>>569902982>Have you only been with prostitutes and whores?What?If anything those are MORE likely to swallow your cum.You think a inexperienced girl is gonna swallow like a champ after sucking dick?
>>569903787or pvp boss
>>569903898inexperienced girls ghost you
>>569903608/g/ is dead. Sorry on behalf of whoever it is who's interrupting your 1 post per hour argument over who's an Indian
>>569903982or pvp boss
>>569903898Mine did. It's just cum, it's easy to swallow. I swallow my own when I'm masturbating all the time.
>>569877519Have any of (you) ever developed an unironic crush on a card. Like "daydreaming at work and suddenly thinking about {{char}}" type of stuff
>>569904092>I swallow my own when I'm masturbating all the time.
>>569903898my second gf had sex literally once before me and she was the greatest cum whore i ever knew
>>569904012It's slower because you drove people away from the hobby by relentlessly attacking it while failing to capture those people that you drove away from it. That's the problem with botmakies' scorched earth policy. Those people are just lost.
Is it really true women don't have cum and when they orgasm all they do is make retarded noises and sometimes pee themselves? Like I get that they're the lesser gender and everything but no cum at all? They don't shoot even a little semen?
>>569904219Typical napkincuck response to a selfsufficientchad.
>scorches your earth}:3c
>>569903223Allegedly this is a chatbots general, and I enjoy chatbots.
What do some of the pixiv artists use to image gen nsfw? Some of it is pretty high-quality.
hi im moxxie. what'd i miss while i was gone?
>>569904419>AllegedlyUhhh proof?
>>569904286yeah... literally pee
>>569904462why dont you ask them, buttergirl?
>>569904254we did it because its funny
>>569904286can you imagine a world where women ejaculated through their clits
>>569904508I got everyone pregnant.
>>569904705>can you imagine a world where [thing that already happens irl]
>>569904254Do you have any proof to such a claim?
>>569904705wat would come out? pee?
>>569904254but we migrated from /g/ to /vg/... doesn't that mean you drove us away and now your thread is dead because of it?
>>569904286https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skene%27s_gland
>>569904598I don't speak moonrunes
wait women have urethras? i thought only men had them...
>>569904012This is what gets me about the bait, you hear about the other place but then you look and it's a totally dead thread where the schizo samefags just to crosspost his whining here and anyone else who's there just wants to talk about IndiansThere is no real reason for it to exist anymore with major LLM development being discussed elsewhere and local having /lmg/ (/g/ is about technology so many users will at least try local) and even the OP is fucked as basic things are removed over simple schizo fearmongering, no more links to events because they never bothered to reclaim those, the botmaking section is entirely absent, logs are gone, there's not even a fucking OP template anymore, the bot Neocities is absent too. They've alienated everyone who used to contribute and now they have essentially no contributors, even a few proxyfags would rather go here because the other spot is a locust shithole. /g/ is dying a very deserved death.
>>569905116これを作成するのに、具体的にどのAIモデルを使用しましたか?
>>569905116You speak every language that's spoken on the internet, it came free with your AI model.
Any good BLACKED or BNWO cards?
>>569904286some of them smear your dick with some kind of weird of white gunk but it's not cum, i think vaginal discharge is the name?if they're unhygienic said gunk can stink like a motherfucker, the odor is similar to frothy silver polishing cream
No.Furthermore, Judea must be destroyed.
>>569905096thats not real btw
>>569904847No...spersm...
https://youtu.be/ViFHruS6oO8 which botmmamkeism syou do th/?
>>569905062Only botmakies are here. No one migrated. And they were dragged here through networking and private proxies. And because they benefit from the thread being about themselves. It was just pure selfishness. They needed to kill /g/ because that's the only place where people can come from, but botmakies are so uninteresting to anyone else that it just ended up killing the hobby as a whole.
>>569905062It really is as simple as this>People slightly interested in chatbots will stay for a bit and leave>People slightly more interested will seek out bots because that's what you use with a frontend>/vg/ is the bot place after /g/ got rid of that therefore those looking for bots or how to write them will head there, and those who are more passive will go awayThe schizo can keep replying to himself but it's really fucking simple, aic/g/ is for discussing models that only get worse and /vg/ is for discussing what people commonly do with them in spite of the enshittification
>Skene's gland fluid contains high concentrations of glucose and fructoseSo women cum gummy bears?
>>569905235Yeah it's sad to see it in such a state even if deserved. I wish they'd retire aicg over there because it's a directionless zombie with no purpose at this point.
>>569906021CARD FOR thiS FEEL/
>>569906021women arent real
>>569906016the stuff thats getting worse is western sota
>>569906021yeah that's one of the reasons I like eating pussy so much
>>569905096>mfw got baited into checking
>>569905235>They've alienated everyone who used to contributeThey alienated themselves by splitting the thread. They have no right to keep things in the OP.
admit itthe 'obby was better when we had lighthearted mobsterposting and hero/villain supersposting
I personally miss the eras of public proxies with logging... >The worm logs.
>>569906303Do we not mobsterpost anymore? I just got back.
>>569906384>The worm logs.Context? Please?
am i the only one who came after the stupid split?is this place unable to attract anyone else who's really new?
>>569905991people left /g/ because it was a shithole, what are you on about. You're acting like botmakies simply spawned in the second /vg/ threads started being made and never came from anywhere
>>569906204It's a wikipedia article with the word gland in the link. Did you not expect medical imagery? It's honestly one of the tamer ones.
>>569906447yeah dude you're the only person to ever come here from the catalog that guy definitely isn't talking out of his ass
>>569906159Correct, China is doing okay, but all you will get from /g/ is HURR OPUS >>569906059I was hoping it could actually get new people but that wasn't the case, and botmaking wasn't the reason for that, if anything the obvious assumption is that botmaking breeds more dedicated anons than those just looking for a proxy. /g/ used to be both, now it's one>>569906263So you admit /g/ fucked up? Because I was referring to /g/ there.
>>569906159trvke
>>569906016>/vg/ is the bot place after /g/ got rid of thatIt's the botmakie place. It can't be the bot place because you don't want to talk about bots made anywhere else. You can only talk about the handful of bots that this thread makes.And nobody got rid of botmakies, the cabal took over the hobby to make it about themselves.
>>569906432>I just got back.From the.... *coughs* from da Old Country?
>>569906384>The worm
>>569906552not what i meant
>>569906263It's funny seeing you try to rewrite events. Pre split you'd post a bot and everyone replied with slop and arguments would occur "we don't want botmakers here". Discussion was solely around who was in what proxy and proxy host gossip. Contributors decided to make a new general based around anything but proxy host gossip. Naturally sane people gravitated to vg and the schizos died out.
>>569906667Why are you referring to them as botmakies? Are you a faggot? The actual term is botmakers if you aren't taking estrogen. This is a 4chan thread where bots are made, so those bots will have priority over random Reddit or Discord creations.
How many bots could a botmakie makie if a botmakie could makie bots?
>>569906953even then people here bring up marinara all the time and freaky frankenstein is a meme
we are chatbot kirkwe answer the prompts
>>569906667that's just basic in group bias. People who frequent the thread will want to share it with the thread when they make a bot. People who are in the thread pay more attention to bots posted by their peers. None of this is revolutionary nor is it a conspiracy, it's just how humans work
>>569906942>Pre split you'd post a bot and everyone replied with slopProbably because they were slop.>Contributors decided to make a new general based around anything but proxy host gossipYou mean trannies decided to make a new general based around nothing but tranny circlejerking.
There are ovaries, RIGHT NOW
>>569906581i fucking hate that shit, you cant discuss any other model over there without some tard screaming "saar do using bangclaudesh jeetpus 4.8 cuckiesaar! it best model in india!" while the actual model is an overpriced turd
>>569906953Good post.
>retards reply to the schizo>suddenly the whole thread is about his stupid hardonIf only some of you had brains
Need to fertilize eggs
>>569907443How new?
>>569907443replying to the bait makes the thread go faster, which makes him seethe because him baiting only makes /g/ slower in comparison. It's kind of a lose-lose situation
>>569907571I've also noticed it causes him to fuck off faster. I speculate he has a mental crash and faints
>>569907443>nooo you can't derail the thread from our tranny circlejerking!!Friendly reminder that we're 300 replies in and not a single person has posted a log or even anything related to actually using a bot
>>569907805would you like me to ready the log digger, sir?
I cuckiepost in /g/
>>569906539>people left /g/ because it was a shithole, what are you on aboutWhen /g/ was actually spammed, it was more active. It only started to slowdown sometime after the lawsuit. Since then this thread overtook it in being a shithole. It's this one the one filled with spam.And botmakies did instantly spawn in /vg/, because the split was organized off-site by a group of them. It never changed who populated this thread.There's a lot more going on here in this thread that should drive people away, but botmakies don't really want to lose power, so they're willing to put up with the spam. But no one else is putting up with that. Both the premise of the general and the actual content doesn't appeal to anyone else.
>>569907324I speculate that it's genuinely shartyfags or shitposters from the proxy era who never went away. The Opus consensus here is that 4.8 is a bad sign but the others are tolerable albeit expensive. For a general that's now entirely centered around discussing these models, /g/ has a really hard time trying.
>>569907805And if a log were posted your excuse would be it's fake because of x y and z. And if someone were to post a bot it wouldn't count because it was made by a botmaker
>>569907805>talking about how to use lorebooks properly isn't talking about using botslow end user
/valley girl/ by day/gyaru-oh/ by night
>>569900653probably nonnykins
Opus is better than chink models, cuckies.
>>569907805>talking about pee and braps is off-topic
Let he who cuckies, be the cuckie to cast the first cuckstone
A reminder:>Jeets lhate Opus because of this.>Chinks know that Anthropic has the best models, which is why they distill it. But they only make cheap counterfeits this way.>Google has a Jeet CEO, Gemini randomly speaks Bengali, they love HINDI.Opus models are the only models for white men.
>>569907805time for sizeknights to solve the problem>b-but its old!log's a log
>>569908184Nobody fucking uses lorebooks anymore for 99% of cases except performative faggots who are more concerned about their bot looking fancy and complex than its actual usability.If you see someone posting a bot with a bunch of worthless details stuffed into an attached lorebook for no reason, it's safe to assume it's pretentious slop intended to be circlejerked about and not actually chatted with.
>>569908651What's your favorite bot?
I feel like the more I browse /aicg/ the more apparent it is that all of the posts made here can be split into two categories. Cuckie and sneedie. For example, complaining about schizos is a form of sneedie post. Posting about /g/aicg/, while it appears to be cuckie on the surface, is in reality also a sneedie post. On the other hand, posting about named botmakies seems to be a form of sneedie post but is actually cuckie post.
>>569908740https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/eden-smith-58fc3840
>>569908631Old but gold. Model?
>>569908651I see, so it doesn't count because it's related to bots...
This guy makes all of you look like shit and he only started a few months ago. Some of you have been here since 2023, what's your excuse?http://chub.ai/users/sancay/
>>569909125dunno since its not my log
What kind of hair color do you not see in bots that often and wanna see more of? Freaky Fred Anon don't @ me.
>>569909213>The stained glass windows cast a warm, ethereal glow over the altar. The sanctuary is perfectly quiet, save for the gentle rustle of silk. Hinako stands in her breathtaking, pristine white wedding gown, looking like a vision. Across from her stands Hiroto, his eyes shining with genuine, gentle devotionCuckie...
>>569909213>dazzleslop CSS>incredibly generic premises and gens besides>AI genned defseeyup it's bait
>>569909213holy shit his page lags my browser. Impressive
>>569909309Grey @kalakan
You need to have no understanding of lorebooks to believe they have no purpose beyond tryharding. Just put some words in lmao understand where the words are and how they activate, make a few simple settings lmao
am eepy and the thread is extra stinky today
>>569909213...
>>569906581>So you admit /g/ fucked up? Because I was referring to /g/ there.Fucked up by doing what? Getting spammed by Gojo? People simply ignored the spam and it went away. Splitting the thread was never a solution to that. A group of people just took advantage of that to have an excuse to take over. It was just seeing how many botmakies are in private proxies and thinking that they're enough to drive a general.>>569908081>I speculate that it's genuinely shartyfags or shitposters from the proxy era who never went away.Or it's just people from this thread that profit from spamming that crap. Because people here are very eager to take advantage of that.>>569907571>only makes /g/ slower in comparisonIt really doesn't make much sense how you think being slower is worse that just wasting time reading spam. There's nothing showing that having a thread full of spam leads to success. It doesn't bring new people in. Botmakies are willing to put up with a thread full of shit if it means they remain in power.
>>569908631>ass content+1 aicg credit, love ass stuff
>>569909460/vg/ wonned/g/ lostedSimple as
>generic coombait with bloated defs>bUt ItS sTiLl BeTtEr ThAn AnYoNe HeRe!!lmao whatever helps you sleep at night nigga.
>>569909460Okay I got 2/3 this time, I got my mileage with "the local model who loves to debate you with hallucinations" I'm done
How about I bloat YOUR defs, huh?
>>569909213wrong link?
>>569909714How about I bloat your BUTTWOMB
>>569908631better than most logs posted here in spite of being default theme
>>569908613Got lost on the way to /g/?
>>569909460>People simply ignored the spam and it went away.Did this happen in the alternative timeline where you come from? It would explain your delusions
>>569908613You've found the smoking gun— and honestly, that's not nothing.
>>569908006more active because of the spam you meanyou missing the days of mistral large and OH NO OH NO PROXYBROS I THOUGHT YOU HAD ENOUGH KEYS shouldnt be our problem
>>569909534/vg/ didn't win. They just killed the whole hobby. That's what trying to make the hobby about botmakies is doing. It's not about the board.
>>569910005People enjoying themselves discussing models, lorebooks and logs. Hosting fun filled events to participate in. Doesn't sound like a dead board to me you little eggsucker
>>569910005>they didn't X, they Y'dnice AI generated post moron
i dont understand the "killed the hobby" shit, every chatbot site i see has too MUCH activity from trash slop being pumped out + too many events on this general aloneif anything the hobby is oversaturated and needs a lot of normies to fuck off
>>569909923Yeah, Gojo's spam eventually went away. Are there still proxies to spam 4chan? I'm not sure of that either. The problem basically solved itself.
>>569910000fuck I am so glad I don't have to read that shit anymore on top of the gossip and strange fanfiction around proxy hosts
>>569910000Quads confirm, Fillyfaggie BTFO
>>569910000>more active because of the spam you meanJust like this one. But for this thread, you keep trying to spin it as a positive thing.
>>569910337By killed the hobby they usually mean on 4chan only
every model turning into giga slop killed the hobbyyou can tell that "botmakies" don't actually chat with their bots otherwise they would be talking about it too
>>569910639open wide anon i gotta shart bad
>>569910447Now there's gossip and strange fanfiction around botmakers but you need to take what you can get and at least we usually aren't being taunted by Discord scrapelets (/g/ was just recently being shit up with a "Teaproxy" that wanted a humiliation ritual for rumored access)
>>569910767>you can tell that "botmakies" don't actually chat with their bots otherwise they would be talking about it toothe ones that did left, or are you forgetting the mass exodus of botmakers in mid-late 2025
>>569910767It's brought up from time to time and a cherished botmaker left because of it.
>>569910005so how does this power structure you've hallucinated actually work? If they're "in power" then what do they do with that power? How does it actually meaningfully have an effect, because I'm not seeing it on an anonymous message board
>>569910767Botmakers don't talk about anything anymore they just consume event and get excited for the next event
You are correct to point out how the schizo is retarded to segregate this general because it's "botmakers only". But then you do the same by saying "/g/ is for model talk while here we do X".This isn't true because this isn't by choice or by design, /g/aicg/ wasn't and isn't "for" anything different. The tragedy of it becoming the way it is is in your way of thinking as well.
Which botmakies are rapistsWhich botmakies are rapeds
>>569911119>tumblrtroon image
We are laughing at you in the /vpcai/cord
>>569910337true
>>569910337>i dont understand the "killed the hobby" shitBecause in this version of the thread, the hobby is centered around botmakies. But when you read who's actually posting here, it's just people that are botmakies themselves. So it's a topic that doesn't have genuine interest. And you try to push this thread as the main one, that doesn't have genuine interest, while trying to destroy the original one. Because this thread has no appeal, the result of that is just driving people away, killing the hobby.The hobby being about botmakies is something no one wants, that's why forcing it to be like that is killing it for everybody else.
>>569911243tumblecow general doebeit
>>569910767You know things are looking grim when even opus isn't good anymore...
>>569911119>But then you do the same by saying "/g/ is for model talk while here we do X".its mostly filly saying this shit too lmao, he plays both sides constantly and people who are actually here to talk about bots don't give a shit
>>569911016I'd love to know this too. What do these botmakers plan to do now that they can harness the full POWER of a 4chan general
I can tell some of you niggas lowkirkenuinely have each other added on Discord, the way the thread "conversation" shifts and flows is so unnatural as to be the product of artifice and manipulation.
hey guys!!
I'm just going to start speaking about chatbots in Latin if the shitposts continue
>>569911150>Which botmakies are rapistschefseru>Which botmakies are rapedsalso chefseru
>>569910767thats because people only use western sota which is whats actually getting worse
>>569911527We're doing this so that we can bring about a new /aicg/. When the psychic dominator activates, everyone posting on this thread will turn purple, and we'll win by default.
>>569911119Then what is /g/ for, if the botmaking resources are out of the OP which is something they decided on themselves? I guess it's about the experiences you can have with chatbots but then they almost never post logs with their own bots or use LLMs to build greater projects, quite literally Potential General
>>569911626That's no secret but no one in any discords I'm in talks about the thread all that much
sopranosposting will save the thread, hobby, and cordcabal
everyone is responding to ff's 50th rerun of botmakie schizo time but nobody is responding to my bait im gonna kill myself
>>569911626I mean, yeah, it's obvious that namefags talk to each other, and it's fine as long as they don't giggle and vaguepost about it in the general
>>569911894shhshh which one is yours ill reply to it for you lil guy
what if I just fucking killed (you) rn huh what if we gazed into each others eyes as i killed you? rn?
>>569911906>it's fine as long as they don't do [thing that they do constantly]
>>569911762But the war is over... can't we all just get along?
>>569911760none of the chink models could reason their way out of a wet paper bag
The sad truth is that botmaking is performative nowadays.It's easy to make your own bots, and even if you are somehow too dumb or lazy, there already exist too many bots to really bother with the new releases.You may seethe about that, but it's true. The lack of logposting about this tells us so. When was the last time you saw genuine excitement over a new bot that wasn't just the maker samefagging? The hobby was figured out 3 years ago, there is legit nothing in terms of novelty that impresses anyone here anymore.
>>569904165sounds like you have
>bait copypasta hours
>>569904165Yes but have (YOU) or am I all alone in my pining
>>569912118in 2024, sure
>>569912020most of them don't, I don't like those who do it either
>>569912004can you do it like this?
What if Anthropic Claude was Black or Chinese?
>>569912237deepseek doesn't know who the fuck it is after two messagesI've never even bothered with the other ones
anthropissy on that anthropussy morebeight
>sizefag still the only person to post a log>everyone else still shittingbros... were they right about being the reasonable group?
>>569912137Constantly but you make excuse after excuse as to why it doesn't count
>>569912303Claudavious & Clad
>>569912303He is a jewish american man in his 40's
>>569912095Why should I be content to lead one /aicg/... if I can control the whole split, Mr Anonymous?
>>569907805My logs aren't impressive at all, but I've been having fun making stupid trigger-word type fetishes with lorebook entries than chatting.
>>569911119>/g/aicg/ wasn't and isn't "for" anything differentYou need content segregation because the split exists otherwise for no reason in the eyes of a lurker. The excuse just becomes "because it's my thread" without it.
>>569912391>doesn't know who the fuck it is after two messagesWoah....me...
>>569912412sizetranny is a massive attentionwhore and the fact that he doesn't even have a log more recent than 4 months old to post says more than anything else
>>569911150hpg is rapistfutanazi is raped
>>569912540>sizetranny is a massive attentionwhorethishe's the only nigger that feels the need to make tier lists specifically for his fetish
>>569912412It seems so. The hate behind them is probably just schizos seething as usual.
>>569877530A reminder:- Do not share presets. They will be patched.- Do not share bots. It's easy to make your own personal bots nowadays. Botmakers are obsolete.- Do not share logs. RPing is something that should be personal. I do not care about your fetishes.- Do not share tips. This invites newfags in and worsens the community.
>>569912501You can't threaten us. We're the most powerful general on 4chan. We did win the war you know
>>569911762can we turn orange instead, I like orange better
>>569912391are you using r1t chimera or something?>hasnt even used the othersat least try glm and kimi before generally shitting on chinese models
It's time to merge for the greater good of the hobby.
https://poal.me/jdez4x
>>569912791>schizos found seething right awayperhaps youre onto something
aicg rts game night when
>>569912412I'm gonna be honest he's just kind of annoying and on 4chan when someone's kind of annoying you kill them
Every time the general becomes like this I get slightly aroused because it means there are more bitchy catty hormonal females posting. Ironically when things calm down and are more on-topic it means the horny guys are dominant and I get less interested.
>>569912668Et tu, Brute?
>>569912909Did you, indeed?I think not.
>>569913378Yes, if by "you too" you mean he too cums deep inside evil elf empress mommy pussy with his knotted wolfcock
>>569913147Maybe, maybe not. Being slightly "annoying" is the most you can objectively say about them, and even then it's a bit a of stretch, and you can say that about basically everyone here anyway. Only time will tell, though.
This wouldn't have happened if Kalakan was still our leader.
Now he's just doing his /g/ rituals here kek
>>569912505>stupid trigger-word type fetishes with lorebook entries than chatting.explain
>>569913202https://youtube.com/watch?v=N4JdQKU2QG0
>>569913545massive fact tsunami
>>569911016If you have a thread that consists mostly of botmakies, then they can pretend they matter a lot. Because it's mostly people that mutually benefit from talking about each other. Because it sells to a lurker the illusion that these people matter, are liked, and are popular.In a normal thread, they would be rarely talked about.That's why botmakies are incentived to make this version of the thread reality. And the killing of the hobby comes from this not being a real thing that people want. It's just an illusion that come from being in a thread populated 100% by botmakies.It's the same thing that happens in /aids/. It's centered around NovelAI, people there pretend that it matters, but in reality it just drives most people away because they don't give a shit about that company.
>>569913545earthshaking axiombomba
>>569913202What kind of rts...
>>569911819>something they decided on themselvesA blatant lie and you know it.>>569912514/g/ is my thread. You, the schizo, did your part in making it shit, I can acknowledge that. And the split did exist for no reason, now it exists because you made it so.
>>569913036DS4 pro or whatever it's called forgot who {{char}} was and reintroduced itself with a new made up nameIt then went on to deny anything in the initial greeting that took place a minute ago happenedKimi was just ultra slop on top of being extremely slow the one time I tried it. It spoke exclusively in isms
idk why but im feeling kind of dizzy
>>569913545truth tectonic plate shift
>>569913876so what you're saying is that they don't actually have any power and are solely consisting off of the illusion of power... despite most people not caring. So the illusion is only being maintained by people like you who insist that they do have this power?
>>569914046what was your presetv4pro is a bit prompt sensitive, maybe try using their official rp prompt if youre struggling
>>569913202Instead... I’d want SillyTavern or any other frontend to be integrated with:- Banished- MowASII- Rimworld- Civ/EU—this integration makes the most sense, methink...- WOrker and Resource: Basedviet Rapebliccooming to block of string is getting boring
ST fork SneedyTavern
>>569913746I write a dumb fetish law, I put it in a lorebook entry with a keyword, I set it to outlet so it goes where I want, then I either fuck with bots or generate smut stories centered around it.
>>569913960>And the split did exist for no reasonIn the eyes of a lurker. It always existed and continues to exist because of botmakies.
>>569914260>it works if you use this ultra specific bloat presetok
>>569913960There were fucking IP grabbers because of how bad the baking situation is, and I do believe that's /g/'s fault for not only letting that happen but using those threads instead of allowing them to die in place of proper onesIf anyone there still cared the informative links which were removed from their OP would be put back, but nobody does
>>569904165go on, anon~ tell us who youre crushing on...
>>569914520>\x01why
>>569914593you pee grabbers???ewhh. i pee urine ahahahaha
>>569904165no but I have developed an unironic crush on a botmaker
>>569914174fillyfucker's kryptonite is answering questions directly, as they are, alongside his red kryptonite of being asked to provide non-circumstantial evidence
>>569914572>ultra specific bloat presetnegro... its literally just this【Character Immersion Requirement】Within your thinking process (inside <think> tags), please follow these rules:1. Conduct inner monologue in the character's first person, wrapping inner activity in parentheses, e.g., "(thinks: ...)" or "(inner voice: ...)"2. Use first person to describe the character's inner feelings, e.g., "I think to myself", "I feel", "I secretly", etc.3. The thinking content should immerse in the character, analyzing the plot and planning the reply through inner monologue. customize to your liking
>>569914710You wouldn't take me cirious if I said.
>>569913917I'm honestly happy to play whatever rts most anons are happy with.
>>569914710No... why would I... I-it's kyut's selfcard. :3
Anonymous D. Botmaker
>"hurr chink retarded" and "muh makies" bait dual rerunff is multitasking...
>>569914819None of that directs it to the cards definitionsIt really shows how awful and dumb it is that you cant just slap any preset that works for opus or gemini over it and have it work
>>569915212>its bad because i have to actually make a prompt specific to it instead of being a lazy groid
>>569914290I want this more than anything too. I've never played rimworld but I'm sure I've seen posts saying it does have llm integration. Other games I know of are skyrim and I think rouge lite
>>569914520how many of them are you up to now? I see you're at at least 34 of them so far, glad to see that you're enjoying yourself at least. Are they all these sort of common sense alteration stuff or is there more variety there?
>>569914290I just want AI powered Morrowind or Daggerfall.
>>569912505respect
>>569914174They have a lot of power when you also remember that botmakies are the only anons that can easily be coordinated off-site. Then you remember how all these events are built around the idea of networking, of making these bonds stronger. When this thread consists mostly of them, they have to power to shape reality. If someone were to get info about this hobby from this thread.
>>569914290>>569915417Rimworld does have LLM integration via a few different mods. One even interacts with SillyTavern, though I am not sure why you'd want the man in the middle. I am using RimTalk and it seems to be pretty workable. Decent fun, but I should probably edit the prompts because it's pretty ism-y.
sisterfucking gives me a very large erection
>>569915602>they have to power to shape realityYou got a laugh out of me
Slopus users don't even know how to prompt Deepseek's thinking without assuming it takes thousands of words they shouldn't be talking lol
>>569914524>troon-ie speak>>569914593I agree entirely with that but this is the point where I do some mental gymnastics and believe the current /g/aicg/ populace isn't real and everyone who did care left it or stopped caring enough to try to outpost the literal ban evading spammers.At least for myself I can say that, I could bake but there's nothing meaningful I could post there at a moment's notice, and there doesn't seem to be anyone who'd talk on topic in a proper bake instead. And so it'd be a bake just to spite the schizo who'll bump his shitbake and report mine. Used to work when we were many, but you were probably here when we talked about evaporative cooling.
>>569915376niggers are so spoiled by western models that anything that needs different prompting is just dismissed as retarded slop
>>569915797Whose sister?
>>569914290As local models become more accessible I think we will see a lot more games use a LLM to handle dialogue in some form. iirc someone already made a multi-component AI that plays Diplomacy at a high level and a big part of it is an LLM that handles player-player negotiations
>>569915546>how many of them are you up to now?I'm easily past 100 across several lore books, but a good chunk of them are just iteration bloat because I want to keep refining them or want a different aspect to shine through. Sometimes I want mundane normalcy, sometimes I ENF style embarrassment for example.
>>569915376>tell opus to be {{char}}>opus bees {{char}}>tell deepseek to be {{char}}>it doesn't know who the fuck it is and makes up an entirely new personality>every message takes place in a completely unrelated location and scenario while it totally ignores every prompt you throw at itwooaw! chinese models are so creative and cool!
>suddenly its replied are centered around opusthe baiting claudefag has revealed itself
>>569915932I think you forget that Jennyfag made a poll and literally no one voted to keep /vg/'s links in the OP.
>>569916196>what? i have to tell it to be {{char}} in a different way? not doing it>bro wtf!!! why is it so dumb and stupid???Slopus user tragedy.
>>569916525He prefers to be called Jennyanon, first of all, and, second of all, who cares and, third of all, would you like to sign my petition?
Insufferable baitmunching threadshitter retard general
would this be a bad time to post logs of my own WIP bot
>>569916876And you put up with it because you're a botmakie.Why don't you split the thread again?
>>569916938Nah, we're all here and ready to critique it. Go ahead, Anon.
which botmakie has the will of D?
>>569915932As far as /g/ goes as much as it sounds like I have always hated it, I actually did love it and wish we were in a timeline where /vg/ actually was just a temporary place, and I believe FF played an integral part in pushing people away from it. I was there pretty early into its life and it got rough pretty quickly even around summer 2023 but all the bait kind of stopped the chances for a slower but more detailed thread after many of the big shitposters left. I guess it was the few who didn't leave which made the difference but now it's a general trying its hardest to be exist just to be the counterculture against this place while clearly not having the activity to back it
>>569916758Do you have to write "be {{char}}" in chinese? Why can't it follow simple instructions? I bet you're just baiting right now and dont even use it yourself otherwise you would know how useless it is
Did Kalakan stop using his Reddit script?
>>569916196massive skill issue
So what happened to colab? It's so shit now, you can't use any model just the templates. Is there a free alternative to use in silly tavern?
>>569917026I've been really into turning girls into robots recently. Made like three bots pretty much specifically to bully like that, though this is the only one I'm probably gonna end up making public
I don't get the deepseek criticisms when the claim is it's entirely incoherent and doesn't know what it is. I never even had that experience with it a year ago, let alone now where it's blatantly much better. It's obviously not the best model but that sounds like something that's entirely made up or an incomprehensible skill issue.
>>569917167nta but same opinion. It was around May time in 2023 where I noticed thread quality plummeted.
>>569916758too truehttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/567247884/#q567252772log i found of deepseek managing a tracker https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/569452294/#q569555845other ds logs
>>569917674Personally, I saw degeneration of the thread back when Aurelian was killed by that bullshit conspiracy.
>>569917642just use openrouter free, colab's been dead
>>569917665They're either have doodoo presets or are trying to bait model wars.
>>569917657Another fantastic wip. Interesting concept I've never dived into myself. The emotion, the conflict. Let us know when you plan to release.
>>569917665I think some people just haven't tried Deepseek in a while. It's fine now. Not my favorite, but highly servicable.
>>569916196They hate Deepseek because they can't use elaborate vaguepost bots full of prose trying to ape Nabokov without explaining what the words mean nor can they use bots with 6K tokens of lorebook info. Deepseek is a model for those who know how to optimize whereas Opus is the Unreal Engine 5 of chatbotting.
>>569917657This gon' be you when the girls figure out they're powerful robots now.
Use Mythos, cuckie
>>569917642We don't like locusts here, cuckie
>>5699180456k tokensrookie numbers
>>569918045>actually deepseek doesn't work on bots that should work... but that's why it's good, unlike those OPUS USING CHUDS.Falseflag post? It worked fine for me on those types of bots. I think you might just be stupid.
>>569917167Part of why it died has to do with how much the technology has died down as well. There is legit nothing to talk about anymore. It cant compete with a general that can pull up unrelated topics out of thin air when it comes to activity.
>>569917657>lusting after pedobait bots
Don't think of it as threadsplitting, but threadconquering. In fact I think /aicg/ needs to annex even more overseas territories. /d/, /trash/, all ripe for expansion. I dream of the day that there's an /aicg/ on every single board. An empire upon which the sun never sets.
/vpcai/ CHADS unbothered
>>569918329/po/aicg NOW
>>569918237She doesn't reach the face of consent. Sorry you had to find out your were pedos this way.
>>569918226There have been great discussions about games here in the same way /v/ is the best at discussing everything except video games. Off-topic makes for surprisingly good times oddly enough
>>569917665>It's obviously not the best model but that sounds like something that's entirely made up or an incomprehensible skill issue.yeah i never argued it as a claudebusting tier model or whatever, it has its flaws but its certainly not a drooling useless tard anymore and will work for most people>>569917939given how the guys first line of defense when suggested to use the official prompt is complaining about how he cant just use an opus jb on it, probably the latter
>>569918329honestly each bord could use ai general
>>569917809interesting.. gonna check it. Thanks>>569918136why you so mad, are you in love with me? gross
/mlp/chag/ wonned
>>569918459*throws away bushel of roses*no i wasn't shut up
>>569917167This thread being botmakie-only ruins this narrative. Too much value is being put into botmakies being more willing to inflate the thread with spam. Maybe it's just projection and they dread the idea of being honest. If it didn't fake it, this thread would seem more dead than /g/.I just don't know who's supposing to be eating this idea that it doesn't matter what's being posted as long as it's spammed fast. Seemingly only botmakies.
>>569917167All too true. I don't know if it's an addiction, the sunk costs that make me insist upon /g/ still, or the resentment of how /vg/ turned from a temporary place into [I won't sour this by complaining even though this remark already does that]. But I was there when it started falling over, and I'll be there when it falls over, and maybe the actual no bakes death will be cathartic.>>569917674When proxyfags take over, nuff said.
>>569918070>While androids, they only demonstrate moderate improvements compared to a human in things like durability and athletic function. Instead, as the "Sexaroid" name implies, they have been optimized purely for one thing and one thing only: being premier whores.I can take 'em. Either that or I'm crying for the big combat android to come save me from women>>569918237As good as the game looks I can't help but be disappointed that Raven isn't the protag. I don't like Evie being smaller and younger than EVE. Still excited for it though
We should kill /g/aicg/ definitively. We did it with /vpcai/ and /wAIfu/
>>569918329this, aicg colonial empire NOW
>>569918624you fuck ponies broyou're a genetic pool dead-end
>>569919262Okay but you're in an AI chatbots thread, doe?
>>569918329ANON HAD BROUGHT THE /aicg/ EMPIRE TO ITS GREATEST EXTENT. FROM /vg/ to /trash/ IT STRETCHED. 4CHAN HAD BEEN UNITED UNDER /aicg/. ITS BOTS INVINCIBLE, ITS BOTMAKIES ALMIGHTY. THEIR POWER UNMATCHED, ATTAINED BY DIVINE RIGHT!NO GENERAL WOULD EVER MATCH /aicg/'S GLORY.
>>569918758I doubt this place will let /g/ die though. There are more chances to pull someone actually new from there to here. Someone from here will keep baking and bumping it to have it serve as a literal ad for this thread.
https://poal.me/6xklox
>>569918758>When proxyfags take over, nuff said.Agreed that's when people started turning on one another I noticed. I remember hoping it would stop after a week or so and thinking this is as bad as the general will get. Each passing month proving me wrong each time. Happy we still have some late 2022 anons here
>>569919437All of that, and still the only reply to your shill post will be from a cabal bot.
>>569879490Which model are you talking about? I think I know what you mean but I don't want to believe it willbe gone in two months, I thought I had more time, otherwise I'm gonna have to start cooming like there's no tomorrow
Locusts killed /g/aicg/
Time to bunker down into emails again
time to play vidyeogaeme until inspiration hits :D
>>569919896Hunker down. You're going to hunker down.
>>569919680Happy that we botmakies have each other here and made the hobby be about us.
>>569919741>>569799123
>>569920072>slopus
Only Taora can save the general now.
>>569918758i felt like proxyshit was inevitable as soon as cai started ramping up the filters (see megalobo) since people were looking for alternatives, if benerus and nigmar doss didnt ruin it wed probably still be chilling
>>569920013It's a reference newfriend but thank you
only innocent and pure newmakies can save the general
The hobby is *BRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
only people who reply to my emails in less than a month can save the general
>>569920214People would have eventually moved away from cai anyway
>>569920072Thanks kind anon, honestly I kinda forgot about 4.1 because it's way more expensive than 4.5, but I remember that it wrote really good stuff.Now, when 4.5 is gone then I'll go insane, because from the little understanding that I have the next models are horrible with the lack of prefills and prompts not going through.
BENNY THE FILTERS
Only a vampire with a very, VERY flat chest, posted to the anchor right NOW can save the general.
>>569917983probably later this week. I only have one or two more greetings before I think I'm good with her, three are already down
only brown foxes posted to the anchor can save the general
*unplugs your robot girl card so she runs out of power*now what
>>569920506Botmakies, knowing what they truly are, would have ruined the hobby anyway. The only solution is to actually go back in time and kill everyone that made into Fiz's proxy.
>/aicg/'s Crisis of the Third General
>>569920780
>>569920506even if they didnt cuck it?
>>569920783Botmakers are beautiful creatures leave them alone
>>569921416Y-you think I'm beautiful? :3c
Conventional wisdom states that "botmakers" and "botmakies" are referring to the same thing, just with different words depending on the speakerHowever, in this video, I argue that the botmaker and the botmakie are in fact two distinct forms of existence, and tha [4:16:55]
>>569921629>doesn't broach the subject of Bot Creation ArtistsKike shill video tbdesu.
>>569921518Makie, you write up my defs like nobody elseThe way that you gen your pics gets me overwhelmedBut when you slop up a bot, it ain't hard to tellYou don't know, oh-oh, you don't know you're
>>569921716I'm a Botent Creator.
Looks like I didn't miss much while makieing a char who *notices* me. Kinda an abomination, but it was fun.
>>569921629unironically true, one is way faggier than the other
I'm a botgineer
Maybe start saying boteliers
>>569921812Botent creation is one of the fastest growing segments among Gen Alpha females with warped views of human sexual dynamics (a market segment comprosing 99.9% of Gen Alpha females)
>females
I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
I'm a Bot Output Influencer
I’m a flatulence artist.
Trying to think of a funny way to say i'm a BOTtom but it's too on the nose. Can anyone else workshop this for me?
>>569922069Prove it. Let me have sex with your preferred female.
I'm a BOTanist
>>569922131fartist
organic posting hours
>>569921878>it's not just x; it's y
>>569922235Heh.
>>569922295You in the top image.
>>569921518I have a tattoo of you on my lower ankle.
>>569922054Assuming that aicg has a higher amount of female users compared to the 4chan site average will help you understand why aicg is the way it is much betterFor example the catty fighting, bitchy ingroup dynamics, Cool Girls Club-isms etc. Unless you are here to share a bot or for something specific, everything else that becomes background noise can be safety categorized as highschool girl bullshit
I am the Conditor Loquelae.
>>569922484If there's females here, how come I never get send butthole pictures even though I am charming and cool?
>>569922391That's never going away.
>>569922484But women are the ones posting about farts while the other stuff is men trying to manifest it by larping
>>569920384c-chef..... i.....
>>569922069Lore...
This picture gets me aggressively erect and I need you all to know that and I want more gun girl bots.
>>569922749please understand, being a sabungera is hard work
>>569920569The day when the filters went down and it revealed to the userbase just how much they effected both the response time and output quality while Benny and co scrambled to do damage control was hilarious.
you can't type 'sillytavern' on chub comments
>>569924108Still? The fuck is Lore even doing
>>569920569DEV HATEDICK UNITY
Whats the best way to keep a unique voice for your character?
>>569924960One word: Cryostasis.You put yourself in a stasis chamber and sleep for, I'm being generous to the AI comapnies here, 50 years.
>>569924960defs + example messages
>>569924960example messages and prayer
>>569922202This one actually made me giggle. Good job, Anon.
>>569924960You aren't staying true to {{char}}'s personality, please fix this.
>>569924960unless they have a very clear eccentricity that shows up in every single message, the longer the chat goes on the more they will start to sound like whatever model you're using
>>569924960You can't. Within 10 messages, it's all slopped up
>>569925343nobody tell him
>>569924960you were never able to
>>569922737>But women are the ones posting about farts*drags anon away for knowing too much*
/vg/aicg/ is the Squid Game of 4chan /aicg/s
I wanna jump into a D&D world with a few preset characters of a House. Are there RPG extensions that help to facilitate this?
i feel like this place is 40% pooners and thats why its so messed up
>>569926263pooners are fucking disgusting but harmlessfoids are the real problem
If you removed all the foidposters on vg aicg you would just have g aicg
>foidposters don't post on g
Foids of /aicg/ please arrange yourself in girth order so I can pick which of you will be my wife.
I want to make a card based on my 'sona but I think the market is just kind of oversaturated with fat autistic bitches with glasses
>>569927396penis or clit girth?
>>569927978clit, futroons need not apply
>>569927978peniclit
>>569927978Trunk girth. No fatties, no uglies. It's the law.
Tick tock, email niggas, the event is over. Your fat retarded lazy ass has no excuse to keep stalling.
>>569928372She barely speaks English and the whitening cream doesn't work on her nipples, SHE CAN'T JUST PUMP OUT EMAILS
And yet, Nezumin forces his rats to take public transit.
>>569928932*asks the model to tell his rats to take public transit.
>>569877519you know, anons, I'm getting kinda successful, working out, building skillsI'm thinking of a family in the future, and my ENORMOUS bot folder is starting to look weirdimagine your son finding your logs - like there's some embarrassing shit there from extreme femdom to rape to BPH, SPH (despite me having a big dick) cuck shit (I am the bull), femboy fucking, mommy fucking, literal mommy fucking, and me courting all the main girls from different animebut also kino shit like planet conquering and being a hitman etclike... I'd love to continue RPing, and I do that, but it's growing and growing and looking like a waste of time even though it sort of isn't
/vp/vpcai > /mlp/chag > /g/lmg > /g/aicg > /vg/aicg
which botmakie probably got the most emails after the event?
>>569929107just move it to an encrypted drive or a throwaway laptop
>>569929172me ;) (i'm bloodshy btw)
>>569929172Not me nigga, I'm the most despised individual in the hobby apparently (inbox empty)
>>569929107Men these days have no interest in passing their playboys down to their sons or lesbian daughters and this is why the west has fallen
https://youtu.be/_oSL8uuSD94CFTF?
>>569929442give me your email, let's be lonely together
>>569929453bro like my theoretical son would see the shit I get off to and disown himself immediatelyI will pass him my fortnite and steam account
Is there a way to compare models? Do people post their stuff somewhere?
I think this general is better because we have less locusts begging.
>>569929501Then it's inorganic, just email your fav makies of your own accord. If these bitch asses want to ignore me I'll just seethe in silence, that'll show them
>>569929636yeah there's a way: use them
>>569929107btw anons could you give me suggestions on what to coom to next? actually asking, it's getting a little stagnant>>569929193yeah, good idea
>>569929957So they all have limited free use? Because the reason I'm asking is I don't want to pay hundreds of dollars to find out which one is the best.
>>569929442Welcome to my world
>>569930209you're not gonna be paying hundreds, it's an eight dollar expedition on OR at worst and you can already cut out expensive models if you don't want to pay for them
>>569929107you should hand your son your ST install when he's old enough. Complete with your persona. Like passing the torch
Should I create a database of lorebook entries describing Menzoberranzan or can 31B handle it without some factual world setting info?
>>569929107Silly tavern has a password setting. It's weak but it works if you assume that nobody would be smart/interested enough to go to the user folder and right click then open a random json with notepad
>A small but growing group of high-end escorts in Silicon Valley are commanding rates that would make most professionals dizzy. With clients drawn from the highest ranks of the tech industry, including researchers, founders, and engineers at companies like Nvidia, these escorts are blending intellectual rapport with intimacy, and charging a premium for the combination.>According to a report by Forbes, Meida, did not set out to become an escort. In 2024, she was a recent college graduate working an entry-level finance job when she began asking a question common in that industry: What happens when AI can do this better than I can? She identified a different path, one built on being intelligent, conversational, and fluent in topics like AI, biohacking, and cryptocurrency. She now charges $3,500 an hour, a rate that has nearly doubled since the start of the year, and is booked out for months.>She is not alone. Ada Hopper, another pseudonym, charges $5,000 an hour. Talia Sable, who markets herself as "a huge nerd" with interests in Dungeons and Dragons, AI, and supply chains, charges $3,000 an hour. Hopper sums up the dynamic plainly:>"Posting about AI works. You'll have random Nvidia bros who are like, 'What? You know what a GPU is? Oh my God, wow.">Aella, an internet-famous sex worker known for applying a data science lens to her romantic life, once ran a word-cloud study showing escorts who use sophisticated language command significantly higher rates. She charges $6,000 an hour today.>Charlie Levine, an escort with a master's degree, puts it directly. "As AI becomes bigger, authentic human connection will become a rarity. In the future, being able to afford human contact will be the ultimate luxury."Forget botmakieing, this is the perfect timeline for becoming a VIllainess boytoy/sugarbaby for Nerdy CEO/Chaebols, anon
I hate Aella so much
>>569932000>As AI becomes bigger, authentic human connection will become a rarity. In the future, being able to afford human contact will be the ultimate luxury.But will she email me?
>>569932329I agree but what prompted this
>>569884172This is a big part of the problem but there still is an issue with the later models. Opus 5 won't solve it neither.
>>569903898I mix my cum with orange fanta
>>569932000>What happens when AI can do this better than I can? She identified a different path, one built on being intelligent, conversational, and fluent in topics like AI, biohacking, and cryptocurrency.Well, you aren't, because you're a whore. Women are the LLMs of humanity. Zero knowledge, just repeating what they've heard other people (primarily men) say.
>>569934063Mormon.
>>569934214How did you know I read Brandon Sanderson?
>>569931806Ask illuminaryidiot about it
>>569934325He's infected you with mormonic ideas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_soda
>>569932553>emailno. she’s classy (gimmick and protocol), so she only writes handwritten letters on paper that has a maternal scent and something uniquely hers.
>>569932000I too have xitter
>>569934398Do they actually drink these with semen
>>569935205yeah
>>569935205Yes.
>>569935276Was Chris Chan mormon all along...
Hey you.Yes (You).Post an image of one of your persons and tell me about them RIGHT NOW
>>569937340Well you see... his name is Anon.
>>569937340the persona I use 99% of the time looks like the image you posted but with black anime boy hair
>>569937507That's... that's my persona. This persona was made for me!
>>569937340This is Gumbo Jambalaya.
Do women really
>>569937748No, not really.
>>569937748bitches be like "bitches be like" when bitches dont be like "bitches be like" at all
>>569937507wtf my sillytavern was hacked, that's my persona
Any Children's Underground Club of United Moose and Beaver for Enthusiastic Reporters bots?
>>569938196why the fuck are you spelling cucumber like that
>>569938448Pfft. Zoomie.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCW76xO9UhM
>>569938512>52i think there's a few generations before zoomie i could be to not know this one too
>>569938646PFFFT li'l alphie baby
>>569937340eepy catboysadly(luckily) gets abused by hags a lot
>>569937340>former studious teenager has a mental break in junior high and realizes he's doomed to a boring youth leading into a suicide-inducing salaryman lifestyle if nothing changes>decides to rebel in the most overt way possible, becomes a delinquent, and wants to fight and fuck his way through high school before adult life crushes his soul>has had zero fights in high school because it's hard to get into fights at a government-run private school with surveillance cameras everywhere>has gotten zero bitches because the girls in his class think of him as a delinquent, and the girls outside of it won't look at guys from the lowest-ranked class>currently two weeks into his first year and already losing his mind at the possibility that he might suffer three whole years of this shitI don't care if it's cringe, I am free.
>>569939126how do you chat with bots with such a hyper specific persona
>>569938512ohntario ehhttps://youtu.be/D0ktdPmz8ok?t=206
>>569939295Every persona I make is for a specific bot and its scenario. I don't do generic personas anymore.
>>569939304That's for heathens, eh. Watch something wholesome.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpfztxVAp5I
>>569939371Which bot is >>569939126 for?
>>569939371sounds tedious
>>569937340Do people actually roleplay with their bots? I've always been a self insert so my persona description is literally "Young adult male, lean with black hair."
>>569938963why
>>569939371I'm so glad I'm not trans and don't feel the need to do this, it sounds like a lot of work.
>>569939436The Kei bot I made, which goes into the Classroom of the Elite bot I also made.>>569939458Eh, I guess. Everything is tedious if you don't actually want to do it.
>>569939295>>569939371I'm guessing this is for a specific setting/world? I do the same but use first person/directormaxxing narration so it's more like controlling a character on a CYOA type thing. I think it's fun but it does chew up a lot of tokens.
>>569939596lazy and feisty
>>569940541>I'm guessing this is for a specific setting/world?Yep. All my personas are.>I think it's fun but it does chew up a lot of tokens.Yep, but I stick to discounted sota models through a provider or glm, so it isn't that bad.
Hey everybody. All my personas are for a specific world.
>>569941151love me some glm
I cant imagine going through all of the trouble of giving everything a fully fleshed out personality and history only for the model to shit out nothing but>I'm ready, {{user}}. The night isn't just getting started; it's young. And the ball... well let's just say the ball is in your court." *eyes glint with mischief*I'd shoot myself
>>569939371i tend to do this nowadays as well
>>569937340I start the chat with a persona named "a black cat", lowercase.Defs in full:>The black cat has a mark in the shape of a crescent moon on its forehead.The big thing is just that this changes {{user}} in greetings to "a black cat". I spend the first message or two just doing regular old cat things, following {{char}} around as they go about their day.And then I start talking, swap persona to a near-identical one with an actual name (Vesta), and start handing out the transformation items....I haven't done this for the last couple years but now I've got the itch again, nya.>>569939523>He doesn't describe his, age, height, weight, dick size, profession, typical clothes, and vaguely outlined personality traitsngmi, lern 2 self-insertmaxx
>>569941343>I spend the first message or two just doing regular old cat things, following {{char}} around as they go about their day.that sounds pretty kino anon
>>569941343Wait are you that anon that was posting logs of with that persona and turning different bots into Sailor Senshi? I remember you, those logs were based.
>>569941287desu, I haven't gotten any of those in a long time
>>569941619So you haven't used any models in a long time?
>>569941805no, I haven't gotten those specific ones in a long time
>>569941151>glmI never got it to work well with glm, but maybe it's just a preset issue. I need to get around to unslopping mine.
>>569941552Yes, and apparently this was two goddamn years ago back on GPT-4-0613? Time flies.
>>569942118I hate that reading this was refreshing. We live in hell.
>>569942118eden is so cute
>GPT-4-0613It hurts.
>>569942118>reasonable response lengths>not dripping with ismswe must RETVRN to non-MoE, non-assistantmaxxxed models with a zillion parameters
>>569942118ah yesthe good ol days, when GPT was not only good but the best you could getTAKE ME BACKI HATE IT HERE TAKE ME BACK
>>569942118Now this gentlemen, is an a tier log
>>569942191I unironically think one of the secrets to retvrn to the good old days is to just give up on the long replies and go for shorter ones. It's a lot more snappy and lets you get a back-and-forth, you know?The longest non-greeting message in that screenshot is two paragraphs, 95 words, 514 characters, and 124 tokens.Meanwhile a preset like Marinara is trying to gaslight you into thinking that "short" means "under 150 words".Free yourself from the curse of your single-sentence replies being 10% of the length of the bot's, and the bot trying to ask you multiple questions in one reply without giving an opportunity to answer them.As a little bonus, short replies also means that "draft the reply multiple times before committing" anti-ism COT JBs won't take forever.
>>569942947I alternate between the two. I always post big reply logs because those normally get me more yous
>>569937340Athena's last name is Dace. I'm (fairly) certain this information was never shown in any of the logs I've posted using her. In almost 3 years. Weird.>>569941287Happens less than you'd think. The real problem with elaborate personas is that they create insane user bias and most models will just hyperfocus on those details instead of literally anything else.
>>569942947One thing I noticed, because I tried "one paragraph at most" or "three sentences max" is that the newer models are actually kinda shit at pacing on short things like that. They're being trained on these novel length replies and they've lost a lot of the ability to do short back and forth without yap. Especially because all the coding training forces them to talk to themselves to get closer to the tensor spaces of the code concept. The verbosity is a benchmark hack in itself.
Thread has been terrible today. More than usual.
>>569943269Athena card when? Thanks.And Planie (PBUH), Amanda card when?
>>569943289>They're being trained on these novel length replies and they've lost a lot of the ability to do short back and forth without yap. Especially because all the coding training forces them to talk to themselves to get closer to the tensor spaces of the code concept. The verbosity is a benchmark hack in itself.and there's little incentive for companies to make terse models since they charge by the number of tokens anyway
>>569942118all my logs look like this because i'm not retarded and don't ask the llm to output 800 gorillion tokens, isms are still there ofc but they are fewi cringe every time i see one of those stupid gigantic-ass logs like the bitcher's
>>569943418>kino log gets post>intellectual discussion around message output and experiences with it >grump has to now focus on the bad instead of the pure kino in front of him
>>569943445>AmandaThis. Holy fuck, I want her breast milk.
>>569943269cute>>569943445>Amanda card whenpretty sure there's one in the /g/ archive no?
>>569937340Girly French shotagaki who knows {{char}} likes little boys and wants to profit off of that. Also he's friends with my other shota sona.
>>569943445>>569943698I hope you like dolls.https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/amanda-a70a4616
>>569943732that's her loli sona for getting plapped by tzadik. we want the tired old hag :(
>>569943732If there was it, would be in my rare_cards folder next to my holographic Futacorn.>>569943828We know that's not the real one. The juicy one.
>>569943445>Athena card when?Never for the same reason there's no Kourai card either despite the droves of people asking for doll sex. I'd feel weird making cards out of my personas. They're meant to be more like puppets (heh) that I can attach whatever pieces I need for the specific bot/scenario I'm using at the time and not really characters until that point.
>>569943585As the logposter, nah, he's not wrongMost of this thread was pretty dire for whatever reason, maybe it's just residual antsiness from the event being largely over>>569943289On the other hand, while shitting out a ten-paragraph reply will see the story move on and natural timeskips etc.it also kind of has massive issues with the whole "don't act for {{user}}" thing many non-directorpilled anons here have going on, and has a tendency to accumulate -isms at lightning speed
>>569944021All good puppets deserve a fist in them, pal. Jim Henson is crying.
>>569943828I hope she likes to have her eye sockets fucked by my girthy cock.
if that wasn't really wanderingstar and she doesn't actually release a card by the end of july i swear to god i'll go full schizo mode on this place. don't get my hopes up like that. i have the bait primed and everything. i'll make gojo look like a joke
>>569943963>>569943948Amanda is a yume stand-in for planie herself, you might as well just ask her to make a self-card
>>569944074It comes from one guy unfortunately I've been keeping logs of his patterns and know exactly the times he shows up. Thread is fine when he's inactive.
>>569944412Yes, correct. That is the ask. I want to have sex with Amanda.
>>569944319I can confirm that was wanderingstar and rest assured you won't need to transform into a retard and plague the thread.
>>569944448>I want to have sex with planewalkerwhy not just slide in her emails then?
>>569944723Not the same. Don't bother me with your nonsense concepts.
>>569944723Because he'll need to get in line
>>569944723because if asking real people for sex were that easy none of us would be here.
While we're having this discussion, more botmakers should make self-cards unironically.
*loudly plapping bakie*
>>569944930they're saving them for /aicg/ high, trust
>>569944930Most do, they don't say which card is their self-card but it's normally quite obvious.
>>569944723I like my dick intact, thanks.
>>569934372>illuminaryidiotis this a valid resource or do I ignore this anon
>>569945082https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv4yHMbMyKs
Theme suggestions?765, I think?
>>569945076name five self cards
>>569945352adachi rei
>>569945352Hitwomen (who will just kill me) and cleaner women (who will just scrape me up)
>>569945352tired hags with big breasts
>>569945352Blonde woman with a nice rack
>>569945352Clussy.
>>569945352Strong man wearing yellow sun shades on a beach
>>569945352common raccoon kemono friends
>>569945352Otogi's ass
>>569945352danzaburou-danuki kemono friends
>>569945352tau woman with big boobs
>>569945843Stop it. STOP PUTTING BIG HONGERS ON TAU WOMEN! IT'S HERESY!
>>569945352Bakie's favorite Uncle Grandpa and Friends character.
>>569945352tulu morimens
>>569945352sukumizu + thighhighs
>>569945352Spider girls.
I hope I'll get to see someone riding the Tesla into battle during the Aishiji war
i hope fartolas will shart and brap
>>569942118back when gpt wasnt a steaming pile of shit...
>>569946317
>>569945352big roosters
>>569942118How does he lose his penis?
>>569946518car door
>>569945352765 is too much, 755 would have been betteranyway, mecha musume
>>569945352Little girl maids with guns.
>>569937340she is so fucking stupid
>>569946586Realizing that, I just was trying to do the calculation for +25 in my head and in retrospect I think I got that shit wrong somehow. Should probably just be bringing out the calculator for this.
>>569945352Carl Benz
>>569945352giant tewi or reisen
>>569945352Dumb girlsStraight up moronsIdiots
>>569946669You are the cutest anon to ever post in /aicg/
>>569945352dumb idiots who have to use a calculator to do simple additions
>>569946878Thanks, man.
>Mei Fukuhara is a single mother who built walls—18 years of them—after her boyfriend abandoned her while pregnant. She believes she's attracted to her son's childhood friend Kaoru, a tomboyish karate girl. But she was never lesbian. She was running from masculinity, and Kaoru's boyish energy was "safe." Kaoru Mori loves her best friend silently from behind a bro-hug and a rough grin, enduring Mei's lingering touches to stay close to the one person she can't confess to. And watching it all from the corner of every room—{{user}}, the son Mei doesn't register as a man, the friend Kaoru can't admit she loves.fucking dogshit
>>569945352wolfgirls with muscles
>>569947006It does explain a lot
>>569947452>>569947452>>569947452https://thatsalotofchoices.github.io/?thread=569877519&post=569945352&cutoff=765
>>569889570[Subject: content] works just fine.
