Thin-blood Sam Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer roleplaying games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Might and Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>569857539>Thread QuestionAre you tired of Disco Elysium clones?
>>569916354>TQI have never played DE
Uncslop won
YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE TWO FOR YOUR WAIFU>Straight>Loyal>Virgin>Woman
>>569916354>Are you tired of Disco Elysium clones?It's a bit annoyingA lot of devs are too scared to find their own style
>>569916354>Are you tired of Disco Elysium clones?Nah, I think they're fun and they're not taking away from combat focused crpgs anyway
>Thread QuestionNo, because I don't acknowledge them in any way. There are obviously people who like them, so they are going to keep being made. Doesn't effect me, because I think games like that are terrible so I pretend they don't exist.
Total Uncslop Victory
>TQNah. But I want to eat the shit of Sam
>>569916409Look, the payoff is worth it. The cosmic forge trilogy is more than a standard fantasy setting
>>569916354>Are you tired of Disco Elysium clones?First of all there have only been two de clones and I haven't played either of them. Second of all just because the game has a vertical dialogue UI doesn't make it a disco clone. Is Shadowrun a disco clone?
Would a widower romance option draw less hate than a single mom romance option?
>>569916460Loyal woman, this is literally my standardNote: most women fail at this simple task
I miss being evil...
>>569916603Shadowrun is definitely more of a Disco-like than Planescape at least
I wanna smooch her.
>>569916603Yes. Proto Disco
>>569916460Straight and loyal for me
>>569916674>the girl he likes fucked someone >has a meltie and runs away to the forest and probably gets knotted to death by werewolvesAverage purityfag
Uncs saw this back in the day and went "whoah, 5 drow women? I'm so scared!"
>>569916354>they can even use some of the same powers their domitor - the [Kindred] who gave them [Blood] - hasvery organic and natural dialogue
>>569916843Oh no what if they capture me
>>569916674>being a Male Warden gives you like three different opportunities to be the bull>being a Female Warden makes you one of the biggest cuckqueans in RPG historyThis game was crazy
>>569916843It’s fun. Why is this game triggering you so much.
>>569916843>women
Do we believe Tim Cain when he says that Fallout was only marginally inspired by Wasteland? Because I'm playing Wasteland 2 right now. Granted, it's not the original, but everything I'm learning about the plot to the original game makes me think that this is exactly the same thing as Fallout 1 especially everything to do with Cochise and Mariposa.
>>569916674You are doing him a favor, he dodges a bulletThat whore took 2 lines of dialogue to convince into sex, she would have cheated on him either way
>>569916674female wardens can kiss him and it makes him uncomfortable
I want to disco dance with Discordance
>>569916674Puffy elf face
>>569916603straight from the dev's mouth>Paitre continued, “With ETERNAL WHISPERS, our ambition is to deliver a mature and atmospheric CRPG that sits at the crossroads of classic role-playing games and modern narrative experiences such as Disco Elysium. We want to create a game where personal horror, exploration, and meaningful choices are just as important as atmosphere and storytelling.”https://www.gematsu.com/2026/06/narrative-driven-crpg-vampire-the-masquerade-eternal-whispers-announced-for-pc?utm_source=chatgpt.com
I forgive ValerieI forgive OctaviaI forgive Kanerah
>>569911535>>569857996Saro 100% reeks of whatever candles they have at the local prayer altar, maybe something like frankincense. The niceness of the smell depends on the niceness of the altar.Aspyce probably smokes something more exotic and addictive, if we go by Hypatia's comment. There's likely a pungent combination of perfume and opium-type stuff trailing her, along with whatever unholy concoction she uses to keep her hair like that.Touma smells like dusty clothes, sacred machine oils™ for his prosthetics, and iho sticks.Cogg stinks because the only ogryn-sized shower in the Bastion is Zerbe's personal shower.Haymar probably thinks that smelling like death and weeks-old stale sweat is a cool macho thing.Disco's scent heavily depends on whether she has a key to her weird chain belt or if it was forced upon her to stop her from jumping people or something. Her bathing opportunities vary accordingly.The kroot most likely smells like her hammock, so animal musk it is.Larry spends a lot of time around his bad-trip incense and has probably absorbed at least some of its fragrance.Epione is a wildcard; either she spent her day in a morgue, elbow-deep in corpse guts, and the odor is unbearable, or she had a nice day surrounded by the cold, clinical scents of antiseptic, medicine, and poison fumes.No opinion on Hypatia.
>>569916460>Waifu>WomanYes, that's a given, that's why she's a waifu, this is retarded
>>569917181Cool. I have no doubt that they will fail at that
>>569917089Just like with Cullen. Cute
>>569916603>Second of all just because the game has a vertical dialogue UI doesn't make it a disco clonethe inspiration is pretty obvious here though, they even copied the stat checks
>>569917264>weird chain beltIt looks like it locks literally nothing and is just something she picked up at hot topic
Cammers
>>569917502so....... these are the superior half-elves I've heard so much about......
>>569917502La creatura
I can't tell if she'll be popular or despised.
>>569917502camcuckies....
>>569917340Ok. I haven't seen the trailer, so I'll take your word for it
>>569916674Apparently if you’re female, you can seduce him and then tell his waifu so they don’t get together>oh hey you know your childhood crush? I fucked him
>>569917264High quality smell post. Thank you, anon
>>569917624The more like Wendog and Yrliet she is the less popular she'll be
>>569917624she'll be liked until she mentions fucking mutants like cogg because they were the only ones who would give her the time of day
>>569917584She mogs
>>569916843I can't believe I have to play this garbage now
>>569917624all I've read she reminds me of Loona from Helluva Boss
>>569917624Well I want to hug and fuck her and I had neither interest in Wendog or Camellia
>>569916460virgin and loyal bisexual femboy princess for me
>>569917847lay off the livers, chubmellia
>>569917837If Owlcat does this... if Owlcat does this its fucking over for this generalIt will be the biggest meltdown since Valerie
>>569918059Since Yrliet
>>569917847fat
>>569917624My stinky princess <3
>>569917624Despised for what? She checks all the waifu boxes.
>>569918134Nah, we were warned about the platonic shit beforehandWe knew, most people went for Cassia at releaseThis bait and switch would fucking nuke both here and /v/ the moment the first anon reaches such a line and screenshots it
>>569917624shes the one you are all obsessed over, what do you think?
>>569918059>>569918134>Kingmaker had the Valerie meltdowns>RT had the Yrliet metldownsDid WotR have any notable meltdown?
Can we just get rid of elves.
>>569917624no face no romance
Can you guys stop with this Discordance is stinky meme? Blanks are not stinky by default, we're just uncanny to people
>>569918347Arue with the "children" bit at the end, but frankly just felt forced.
>>569918321You can literally change in-game dialogue by opening the text file. It was done with RT. It will be done with this
>>569918415tali
>>569918347Boy you're new
>>569918347It was mostly shitflinging between Aruefags and Camfags. With the Aruefags being pushed off this general back to /v/
>>569917624>exotic bird alien>rich and beautiful rogue trader>a potential tech priestess that’s hyper mobile>but this general goes for the one eyed social outcast that stinksGenuinely what does /CRPGG/ see in her.
>>569918527
>>569918441Take a shower, piggy
>no longer see seething over dhSee I told you Owlcat had waifus
>>569918441>we're just uncanny to people>we
>>569918347Not really, you knew what you got with all the girls, there was no shock surpriseBut Wotr did have the cuck wars, of which many anons are veteran of>AND SHE NEVER REFUSED ANYONE>CAM LEAVES YOU IN THE END DUMBASS>NUH UH I HAVE MY COPE MOD, MEANWHILE ARUE NEVER REFUSED ANYONEThis was every single thread for a good year
>>569918335The last thing you should do is use this general as an indication of popularity.
>>569918609Not crpgs.
>>569918594""""Normal""""" human woman that doesn't look like who'll try to finger your asshole during sex.
>>569918609No one fell for Tali because of her shitty face reveal
>>569918258>Despised for what? She checks all the waifu boxes.Waifufags want to be victims to badly.
>>569918749Disco gets off on reactions. She’s totally ram a thumb up your bunghole unless you do it first to her.
>>569918749i thought you would be into it froggy
>>569918695>the cuck warsand who won?
>>569918321I don't care about how "warned" we were, the fact that Yrliet still makes people mad to this day is a testament to how much she mindbroke this place (and I don't mean this general exclusively, /v/ too)
>>569918258Out of curiosity, would you mind telling me what those boxes are?
>>569918594>krootcant stick my willie in>aspycedepraved super hag>hypatiano portrait or finalized model to coom over yet>epioneblack>discoedgy young girl with a bratty attitudeits quite easy to see why they'd flock towards her.
>>569918713This general likes the most popular choices wdym. Cassia, Kibbles, Arue, Morrigan blah blah
I've thought about this a lot.I see Noble Dwarf as more a gloryhound traditionalist. He doesn't have quite the same strong feelings he brothers did but sees no reason to change the existing system. Wants revenge on Bhelen.>Rival with Commoner Dwarf and Elf>Neutral/curious with Dalish and Mage>Good relation with Human NobleCousland is simultaneously your moralfag but also very vengeance focused. I could see him actually being hands off leadership wise (canon personality depending on dialogue) and used to be more of a flirtatious rogue character pre-Howe.>Commoner Eld hates him, he's neutral to trying to understand her>He's wary of the Mage>Dalish is hostile like with most humans>Good relationship with Commoner Dwarf (he treats her like a perosn)>Good/neutral with Noble Dwarf. (glory hound and puckish rogue dynamic, fellow vengeancetards)Elf Commoner:>Distrusts Noble Human>Fearful of Mage>Fascinated by Dalish>Friendly with Commoner Dwarf>Dislikes Noble Dwarf (who is the closest to an asshole noble in the group)Dalish>Hostile to humans by default>Respectful of Mage>Pitying but condescending to eld Commoner>Neutral/curious of Dwarf Commoner and NobleElf Mage Wanted Freedom. Got fucked over by the Amell (human mage). Friend turned out to be a Blood Mage. Most antitheist of the Wardens.>Neutral to Cousland, she doesn't have the same racial animosity rather views world in mage vs non-mage>Curious of the Dalish Customs>Contemptuous of the Elf Commoner for her religious fear of her>Either sympathizes with the Casteless Dwarves due to her own unpersonhood and hates noble dwarf or remains moderately positive of both
>>569918347Areelu if you go legend
>>569918940>woman>likely a tragic backstory>initially abrasive but warms up over time>tough exterior, vulnerable interiorThe romance practically writes itself.
>>56991896120s is young now?
>>569918713wdym, this general has basic bitch taste
>>569918915Initially it was a camfag tactical victory, but then dance of masks changed arue's ending, achieving a final aruefag strategic victory
>>569916354wait game is this?>>569916460Loyal and woman
Did people outside of here and Rastard like Whorliturd? Will Owlcat actually think that was a good idea for a companion and a romance and repeat that bullshit?
>>569919135yes? most people here are 30 apparently
>>569918915Camchads rule this general while Aruefags were exiled
>>569919058Owlcat lives to subvert expectations
>>569919169>Did people outside of here and Rastard like WhorliturdNo. Even that fat black wholesome CRPG youtuber says he can't stand her.
>>569919169Yes, the alphabeth trannies love her because xey think she's asexual
>>569919058you forgot 'comes across as a teen that the devs had to reassure you she's of legal age'
>>569919169Yes Yrlietoilet is popular, being a female elf is why
>>569918940>cute (probably)>doesn't have friends (pariah)>virgin or inexperienced (pariah)>kinda crazy but not really>I can fix her
>>569919058
Trying to come up with a thematic Crime Lord build for the new DLC. Help me out.
>virgin or inexperiencedGod I can't waitDo it OwlkekFucking do it already
>>569919163You know even without the DLC Cam still cucks you, so that hardly matters. You're never going to get waifufags to admit it though (just look at Shartfags) so it's a pointless question.
>>569918915The smoochposter. Not camfags in general. Just him.
>>569919165Vampire: The Masquerade – Eternal Whispers
>>569919482>making a western comic right to leftyou couldn't possibly be more cringe
>>569918940white girl who you save from loneliness>y-you are the f-first person nice to me!!
>>569919618Don’t shoot the messenger
>>569919551Operative into Executioner dual wielding Drukhari pistols.
>>569919058Just so you know you just described Wenduag who is divisive at best
>>569916918>Male Cousland can fuck the elf handmaiden slut>Cousland can marry Anora>Male Dwarf can fuck some dwarf sisters>Mage gets nothing>Dalish gets nothing>Commoner almost gets NTR'd>All males can fuck the dalish slut>Mouth fuck the bar maid>Fuck Isabela "(threesome with leliana)>Fuck Leliana and Morrigan>Can flirt with the villager girl>Male elf gets cucked>Male dalish gets cucked spiritually>Mage is the incel to his chad bloodmage friendAll women wardens get cucked by Alistair with Anora and/or Morrigan>Female elf can be rape bait>your husband dies too>It was a forced marriage anyway>Female dwarf can crush on bodyguard, get cucked anywaylol. The good old days.
>>569919551Officer master tactician
>>569919551Soldier who dual wields pistols. Bounty Hunter works for a second archetype but I'd rather go with Arch Militant.
>>569919551Criminal officer with demoralize specialist. You gotta break some balls.
>>569919169he doesn't like her, he just likes her aesthetics, which is why he can only imagine her as being OOC
>>569919557>Cam still cucks youThat headcanon wasn't around in the cuck warsIt was invented by the cuck fetishists that uploads all of the AI pics to r34, the posts about the brothel start around the same time, so a couple of years after release.
>>569919551forge world (locomotion), dual wielding bladedancer, fully aug'd out to be the space cyber pirate ninja you were always meant to be
>>569919752Wenduag would have been a slamdunk if she wasn't a cannibal (debatable), didn't betray you at every opportunity and didn't try to fuck other party members.
>>569917624Popular with high IQ chadsDespised by the unwashed masses (redditors)
>>569919767I didn't romance alistair though? And played a dalish elf
>>569919871>headcanonkekypow
>>569919924Redditors dislike her?
We're picking Wenduag in every single playthrough.
>>569919587>new VTMCoo...>premade character named Gabe, ugly hipster looking dudecringe...
>>569919996Only one. You know who.
>>569920005oh they are forcing a name on you? gay
>>569919618>>making a western comic right to left...anon are you retarded?
>>569919891None of those things matter for the average person that played the game, she's still divisive. You know why that is? Because she's an annoying cunt, and cartoonishly evil, that's why Camellia is even less popular, because she takes those two traits and dials them up to eleven whereas Wenduag can be at least fixed
>Aspyce uses her Demoralize specialization>Acolyte can't get it up>Kills self to escape humiliation
I can't believe all of reddit is Pasqal's trashcan
>>569920005You can make your own PC
>>569919996At least one but their hive mind nature means you can apply it to all of them until proven otherwise.
>>569920171Well, none of that applies to Disco, so it's a moot comparison.
>>569919996No, but anon is already pretending that they are because he loves being contrarian towards ledditors
Aspyce is nearly 300 years old :)
>>569916674After Veilguard released I went back and listened to some of the party banter from the first three games. The characters were a lot cruder than I remembered. Like the Veilguard crew had nothing interesting or even very contentious to say to each other, but then in the first few games you have party members load all the vitriol they can into calling each other whores.
>>569919618Elantach.... I....
>>569920320I can play a female character?
>>569920337Idk if it does, I haven't played the beta because no torrent, just saying that pointing superficial stuff like that doesn't work
>>569919618>western comic
hypatia will be the only virgin, disco would have sold her virginity for a meal trying to survive
>>569920327>hive mind>like this place isn't the same
>Th-thank you... monkeigh.>M-monkeigh?>Because... um... you humans look like monkeys.>Oh yeah.
>>569920071I don't. I don't go on reddit
>you’re a premade sabbat jobberWill not be gaming
>>569920516I’d pay to watch her piss
>>569920525MINDBLOWN
>>569920517It is but we've established that the 4chan hive mind likes her.
>>569920532his mortal nemesis. a redditor who shits on his waifus. don't worry he will post a screenshot
PTSDPasqals Toaster Stress Disorder
How would your CRPG waifu be improved if they had a GEP gun?
>>569920897No, she should have a Dehydration Gun.
>>569919996>Redditors dislike her?They don't.
>>569920897She wouldn't, all of my waifus use blades
>>569920858When a Redditors opinions are so awful that they phase into the noodphere and cause collective damage across the globe
>>569918347
>>569921057no you just stalk them and tell us about it
>>569921079their only crime? not meeting incel-anon's unrealistic expectations
>>569918467>forcedI requested it. Gave feedback to Owlcat MULTIPLE times. Literal walls of mating press and PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT as well as detailed explanations on why we should be able to knock her up. And they fucking listened. If her children ending is forced, it's because me and other anons like me forced it.
>>569920897They should have a DNA scrambler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3dFNs-DtQk
>>569921054Luckily a GEP gun can be used as a melee weapon in a hurry.
>>569920380Yesdid you watch the trailer ?
>>569921152The persons post are fully public and he lives on there always posting. It’s not stalking.
>>569921079Hypatia soon
>>569921301Yeah you go on his profile everyday to seethe
>>569921220Abelard gaped her pussy and came buckets into her
>>569921156>their only crime? not meeting incel-anon's unrealistic expectationsThey should try giving them only basic trad wives romances, and leave the interesting character concepts to the femcels.
>>569921079ranked from most to least used beef
>>569921301We literally don't give a shit what some random plebbitor posts on plebbit. Just stay there if it's that important to you. no need to bring it here
>>569921490Valerie has a bodycount of ONELET IT GO ALREADY
>>569921156I can think of plenty of reasons to see why people would meltdown over Yrliet outside of waifufag mindbreak
>>569921346Why? Because she won’t be a romance because of GW mandate?
>>569921156Arue does. I mean they wanted a virgin succubus but every other part does
>>569921429I did not need to know that, Owlcat. Ewww.
>>569920320>>569920107yeah but they're still named fucking GABE...
>>569921156I don't like any of them for reasons that are unrelated to waifufaggotry
Are you telling me Valerie fucked the edgelord from Dark Heresy?
>>569921520I will go insane if I do not share it.
>>569921639Better than Phyre at least......
>>569921697>the edgelord from Dark Heresywho?
>>569916460I choose>Snake>Titties
>>569921781me, probably
>>569921429So did I.
>>569921724pasqals toilet mindbroke you lmao
>>569920380no sadly that will forever be out of your reach
New CamKINO just dropped
>>569921831Supremely cultured choice, anon
>>569921974the method? cutting her in half
>>569921974Cam would abort it immediately
>>569921831Based
Exodus will save this general
>>569921974?Don't you have to play as one yourself for that to work?
>>569921974Its shit, since she is already a half elf. You'd be making a quarter elf.
>>569921974'fraid that's not your pov
>>569922096i liked their sapient animal shticki hope there's a sexpest dolphin
>>569921974Yeah, half elf, half qlippoth.
>>569921974Horgus filled her up with so much cum after this
>>569922110>>569922118>non-elves actually post hereabsolutely disgusting
>>569922082Npc present in just one act. Can't be recruited yet he's given a portrait. What's the logic on the resource distribution of this.
>>569919334Huh? Odd I thought he had kinda contrarian tastes (liking Nenio, purposefully playing the least popular story paths/classes on release - ie heretic, evil paths in WOTR)
>>569922293Cam herself is mixed
>>569921079>>569921156I think Yrliet is the biggest mindbreak because female elves are very desirable by nerds. And the whole shes a cold hearted bitch that you fix with your dick/love is popular but Yrliet did not give them that AT ALL. Not sure who expected Arue to be a virginal succubus and Valerie is too manish for them by default.
>>569922118isn't her mother a half elf
>>569922072She'd have it, just to kill it, eat it or sacrifice it for the funny.
>>569919169>Whorliturd
>>569921581she won't put out
Calligos' retinue is so much cooler than mine...
>>569922294I have zero fucking idea. It seemed really bizarre. Maybe they have plans for him to show up in Dark Heresy, or in Rogue Trader's Infinity Museion DLC or the 4th DLC.
>>569922482I can see why Owlcat called her the craziest romance yet
>>569922604>bigger ship>better retinue>better chaos god hounding him>does what he wants instead of being bossed around by inquisitors
>>569922604But he will never get to do speedballs with Incendia.
>>569922294Dude they gave a portrait to the fucking tavernkeeper on Footfall, who knows what their logic behind it is
>>569922604no malicefag
>>569922354>to be a virginal succubusNobody cares or expected that (and the few that do hate all the women, not just her), it's just a fuel for shitposting due to a general dislike of the character, the same is true for Valerie
>>569922745He does hard drugs with his Sslyth.
>>569922604>>569922734Calligos really felt like the type of guy we could have been if you weren't the main character in a Owlcat game. He looked like he was having more fun all around.
>SEE? HIS RETINUE IS MUCH COOLER HE HAS AN EVIL XENO!>No of course I won't recuit marazhai, he's an evil xeno, for the empraaaaahMake it make sense.
>>569919169>outside of hereThe opposite retard, this shithole hates her, everywhere else she's fairly popular even if she doesn't compare to Cassia and Kibellah
>>569923327Doubling up on E*dar is gay.
>>569922991nah, the shitposting comes through the baiting of people who claim she's a virgin, not because she isn't
>>569923327Its just the malicefag
>>569917624I need Disco sex
>>569923327>i want a cool aliens in my retinue>here are two elvesamazing, 10/10 owlkek will buy four dlc of dogmatic humans
>>569917885You'll quit within two hours at best, you have to enjoy dungeon crawls, combat and character building, since it's a real CRPG, before adventure game nonsense, "story driven" and romancefags permanently destroyed the genre.
>>569923327Having a cool four armed snake alien mercenary who are said to be shockingly loyal and dependable to the people that hire them would have been way better than having two space elves who betray you and talk shit to your face.
>>569916843Tola or Ola is best waifu??
>>569921079Yrliet really shouldn't be there, people dislike her because she's written so terribly. You could remove her romance content altogether and nothing would change.
>>569923684marazhai stops shit talking you though, one of many reasons his compliance is much smoother than yriliet's
I assume whoever wants Malice is a scalie. Same as D*rge players
>>569923457>virginRevirginized, and that meme started after the all shitposting about loose holes. She was getting shitposted even before the endings were datamined back in the beta days>>569923327Marazhai is a villain that got you brutally tortured, Calligos also has a cool edgy snake instead of another flavor of space elf
>>569923607At least Dark Heresy seems to be breaking away from that. Its just one space elf this time around and a Kroot, and they even made him somewhat likable. >>569923908You can want weird non-Human companions without wanting to fuck them. But yeah in this instance you are right because I'd fuck a Sslyth lady no hesitation.
>>569923908Malice is just an easy alternative. He's evil and a xenos, sounds like a perfect replacement for Maraztard, I'm not a scaly (and if I was I would want to fuck a female one, I'm not a fag) but I would still prefer him
>>569924187We Are getting a Votann dlc companion instead
>>569923941Yrliet and Marazhai both being the only xeno companions, both being Eldars and both being the ones responsible for sending you to one of the worse places in the universe almost makes me think GW forced Owlcat to make the xeno companions untrustworthy assholes on purpose. There is zero reason anyone would actually tolerate those two fuckheads.
Never forget that through empirical data and objective reasoning, the companions in each Owlcat game have been perfectly and carefully ranked by the top CRPG experts in the world. You are, of course, free to disagree with this list, as you are always free to be wrong.
>>569924187>>569924332okay scalies!
>>569924379The existence of Ra'akhti and Larry seems to prove this wrong (for now)
Smooched my companion in my favorite computer roleplaying game.Been planning my build for when the rogue trader dlc comes out. Excited for new items, probably going to be a priest soldier with a power sword this time.Got Expanse, Dark Heresy, Fable, Solasta2, Afterlight, Clockwork Revolution, Archquest, Wayward Realms, and Zero Company all preordered and ready. The ones that have betas I played and enjoyed.Feels good to be a computer roleplaying games enjoyer.
>>569924420I disagree with some of the placements, but not enough for me to call you a dumb fuck retarded faggot or anything.
>>569922294He even has his own ending slide
>>569924548
>>569924379Marazhais recruitment makes perfect sense if you stop metagaming and think about where you're at and how desperate you would be to escape. It's an alliance of convenience in an extremely dangerous and life threatening situation. The only reason people choose otherwise is because they know they are the protagonist and know they can escape Commoragh with or without Marazhai. If you actually roleplay your character, though, there is zero reason not to take him, at least temporarily, into your retinue to better your chances to escape Commoragh.
>>569924420>Ekun-snore-o at the top>Being an emberfag>Cam at the bottom>Fur-goddess Nenio at the bottomYour taste is terrible
>>569924614Dude the fucking lizard village from Kingmaker had an ending slide. You just used to SHIT of the SHITeous' garbage endings, but this is nothing new for Owlcat
>>569924420You dumb fuck retarded faggot, what is this trash list?
>>569924448Okay!
>>569924420I agree with most of these. especially the bottom tiers
>>569922734>bossed around by inquisitorsI love being me
>>569924729>>Cam at the bottom>>Fur-goddess Nenio at the bottomIt's funny how consistently these two share the same fans
>>569924706You must be even more retarded than Yrliet to trust him second time
>>569924548I wish you’d get drawn and quartered in the public square.
>>569924729>Nenio at the bottomIf you disagree with this all other opinions from you can be immediately and summarily discarded. Only Yrliet is in competition for the worst companion ever made by Owlcat, and in the poll we ran a while back, even Yrliet wasn't rated as badly as Nenio.
>>569924948I don't trust him, I trust his desire to surviveBig difference
>>569923327>elf but ugly>coolI'll take the 4-armed snakeman, thanks
>>569924729>Fur-goddess NenioF-Froggy?
>>569923879Yrliet could be the worst written character in the history of fiction and that still wouldn't change the fact that YDS is a very real thing condition, and a very serious one
Nenio owes me sex.
>>569924706Fair enough, that's a good point. I should have specified "no one would actually tolerate them long-term". Tolerating Yrliet up until the point she fucks you over is understandable, and tolerating Marazhai until you are out of Cumrag is understandable, but tolerating either of them past that point falls into the realm of asinine bullshit.
>>569924948>Trust him a second timeWhat? You never trusted him even a first time, though. Did you even play the game?
>>569923908I'm not a furry. I just think he's a cool guy and a much better evil companion
>>569925091hello yrlietard
>>569925116FACT: You could rape Nenio and she wouldn't be upset because she doesn't care enough about it to remember because it has nothing to do with her funny book.
>>569925250Cassiabro actually
>>569925014If you seethe at Nenio, you have a small penis and an insecure ego. The worst companion, will be the most boring and forgettable one. Nenio eliciting a response from you already makes her superior to nothing companions like Sosiel.
>>569925016as do all people around you in Commorragh. You should be metagaming or roleplay as femcel/fag/cuck to recruit him instead of slaughtering when opportunity arises
>>569925301She’s definitely remember my tongue being stuck up her ass 24/7
>>569925132Why? They're extremely deadly xenos who are totally isolated and have no where to turn to for help, so you can utilize them to further your own ends. If you're roleplaying a pragmatic RT exactly why wouldn't you take Marazhai with you?
>>569925360Cassia drawn like this makes me think of Pim.
If I'm sitll in the middle of act 1 of RT will I be able to continue my playthrough with the fat fuck DLC after buying it or do I have to restart the entire game for the new DLC?
>>569921429>Abelard had the stamina to get past being deepthroated by those lipsWhat a studEspecially considering his age and what he went through in comorragh
>>569925407Because for a supposedly deadly xenos he is the weakest companion in the game
>>569925378I would gladly take someone boring and inconsequential over an annoying piece of shit like your waifu Nok-Nok MOGS Nenio btw
>>569925460Yes, you will be able to.All of their DLCs can be started any time
>>569924548That's heresy right there, Kira in the original release can only be romanced by a male Jedi, since Lucas forbid all faggotry in Star Wars.
>>569921429don't forget he put a baby in her
>>569925512I knew you were that Nok-Nok fag because you're the only person I've seen rate him highly.
>>569925407The pragmatic thing would be to use someone like Marazhai while you are desperate until you are back in control of the situation, and then immediately kill him.
>>569925601nok-nok is one of the most popular kingmaker companions, stop living under a rock
>>569925607No point in arguing with a maraturd. Xe's doing a special olympics level mental gymnastics
>>569925378Ears like those are made for rubbin'.
Nok Nok is cute!! Cute!!
>>569925378Empirical statistics and polling data shows otherwise.https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB92wjEgJ/results
At the end of the day, Nenio>has a cute voice>has a cute appearance>is effective >stirs everyone into a murderous seethe And that's good enough for me.
Is this Froggy for real omg
>>569925601>Nok-NokFunny, charming, endearing, has a believable relationship with you and a good storyline, his writer (Avellone, PBUH) didn't forget to give him a proper questline in the middle of all the comedy relief shenanigans >NenioAnnoying, unfunny, entire point of her storyline is becoming your friend yet you barely interact and when you do she acts like a robot, it doesn't feel real, storyline barely exists outside of those moments and a single dungeon becase her writer was too focused on making funny hahas
>>569925982The way she calls me «boy» gets me hard
>>569925982Going to be honest, the main reason I don't like Nenio is because she's a Kitsune. I feel like she would have been better as something like a Halfling or Gnome, and then have someone like Lady Konomi be the Kitsune companion.
It do be like that don't it
I think its funny that Nenio and Ember are your only main mage characters in WOTR.
>>569925502That's a mechanics issue, though, we're talking roleplaying decisions here. Honestly that is a deficiency in how Owlcat built the game, though, I really think that the rarer companions should genuinely be mechanically outstanding, at the least, if not outright superior, yet the only character that actually gets amazing mechanics representing their power level is Cassia, while Ulfar, Yrliet and Marazhai get nothing, even though lorewise they're all supposed to be significantly more powerful than anyone else in your retinue.
>>569926152Pathfinder goblins are not funny or endearing, they're walking cockroaches that need to violently die. Taking in a worshiper of Lamashtu already strains credibility and makes your character seem like an imbecile. >worshipping bearbull man lmao
>>569925502have you ever used him? hes alright honestly
Our hero.
>>569925607Why bother killing him though? He is genuinely no further threat to you since he's cut off from his people and his cabal, and he has every reason to help you succeed. I just don't see the point in disposing of a useful asset. If I was to go off the actual power level he's supposed to have in the setting, it would be even more ridiculous to discard him, having a Drukhari Dracon as part of your retinue in the 40K setting would be a ridiculously powerful asset for a Rogue Trader.
How come no ones says MDS. He gets nothing but seething when brought up
>>569926637...isn't in this picture!
>>569926661Because he got me stuck and tortured in the worst place in the galaxy. You want to fuck him so like a good little cuck you let him brand you and live, but I don't, and neither do most players
>>569925382Lore wise Marazhai is only below Ulfar(and psyker companions) in terms of power because drukeks are basically superior to humans in every sense, a metagaming tranny would kill him while a proper roleplayer would secure him as an asset to escape Commorragh.
It would be better if at least one companion got permanently killed in Comorragh to feel the consequence of bring there
>>569926326>Honestly that is a deficiency in how Owlcat built the game, though, I really think that the rarer companions should genuinely be mechanically outstandingExactly why a Sslyth companion would have been rad as fuck. They got four arms, so a Sslyth companion could realistically have access to four equippable weapons at a time (or two big weapons or one big and two small). So they could have a big rifle and a couple melee weapons, and some sort of mechanic that lets them have extra attacks every turn. That would be mechanically interesting and be a thing unique to only them to make them feel truly alien.
>>569927017Kek sure, give people more reason to kill the two elves
>>569927017Gamers don't like when that happens
>>569927080Yrlikeks would still forgive her
>PLEASE use my husbando he's useful!They truly are the female Camfags
>>569927017People would throw a fucking bitch fit over something like that, sadly. I like the idea of that, though I'm not sure how it would be best to do it. Having it be a specific companion would be shit because it would waste a companion slot on a character who is destined to die and has no other purpose beyond being a sacrificial lamb. Having it be a random companion might work, but then people would just save scum it until its a companion they don't care about. Having it be the companion you start a romance with would have the biggest impact, but also would piss people off massively.
>>569927305the guy hyping up marz is not female
>>569926819I only romance Cassia every time I play through RT so your assertion is rejected as categorically false. Also the rest of your argument is irrelevant, it assumes that every RT is as emotionally driven as yours apparently is. There's no reason to dispose of a useful asset that you can take advantage of for your own ends.
>>569927397>it assumes that every RT is as emotionally driven as yours apparently isSomeone post it.
>>569927017That would be an improvement, yes. Also they should've had more companions suffer more significant damage (Argenta, Idira) than they did. Your idea would work best if it was hard coded in and randomized at the start of a campaign, so people could not save scum to avoid a character they like being killed.
>>569927085>extremely railroaded act where you're forced to act like a genuine retard to end up there>also wants the game to force you to lose a fucking companion on top of thatThank god Owlcat never listens to you. They fuck up to begin with, but with your input they would be much worse.
How the fuk am I supposed to find this place?
>>569927596>our idea would work best if it was hard coded in and randomized at the start of a campaign, so people could not save scum to avoid a character they like being killedThat's a good idea. I also think this would be especially cool if you have a quest after leaving Cumrag that has to do with some sort of unfinished business with that specific companion that died, so their deaths doesn't just end all impact they had on the story.
>>569927721I didn't ask for a dead companion, I said gamers don't like when that happens
>>569927017I already felt the consequences by playing an entire act of filler that ended up ruining the rest of the game
>a companion has to die in act 3Okay /crpgg/ who should it be? No you can't say the elves.
>>569927017>no one brings Cassia, Argenta, Kibellah, Heinrix, etc. anymore>everyone goes solo or with Jae
>>569921079Bunch of cuties
>>569928091Then it would be Jae. You already know the answer the majority of the playerbase is going to pick so why even ask?
>>569928091Both of the el-FUCK.Ulfar.
>>569927017It would be funny if the companion chosen to die seemed completely arbitrary like in DD>There are two ways this can end, mon-keigh. Face the arena and accept your death, or sacrifice your one true love.>That's Solomorne.>Yes, Solomorne, your soul mate!>Absolutely not.
>>569927721I for one am tired of companions being immortal and immune to logical plot consequences. Idira should've genuinely fallen no matter what you did and been consumed by her powers, during the game, as an example. Companions shouldn't be exempt from the plot and narrative affecting and even killing them. This contrivance is one of the reasons writing in CRPG games is so subpar.
>>569928175Kek
>>569928273My dooooog!!!
Maratards dislike when you mention killing Marzipan, this is why they dislike Big R
>>569928091I actually think every companion you take into Commoragh should end up tortured to death and you should escape guns blazing with Ulfar alone, with Ulfar actually having the mechanical power he ought to have as a Space Marine so getting one in your retinue actually feels narratively and mechanically significant.
>>569928274>companions being immortal and immune to logical plot consequencesYour companions can die not just during their questlines, but also in their endings.>Idira should've genuinely fallen no matter what you did and been consumed by her powersAnd then you go and pick the worst example, Idira's best ending literally has end ending up dead, though she gets killed by Jae instead of exploding into a gory mess and summoning one gorillion daemons so that's probably not good enough for you.The problem is that you're a retard that wants to remove player input, the most important thing in a video game.
>>569928453He hates Marz for fucking Yrliet
>>569928453>goes from total eldar love to total eldar death after getting kicked out of their subredditzamn
>>569928273It's not arbitrary in Darkest Dungeon though, you choose who dies at the final boss.
>>569928465Do marinefags really?
>>569928465>sacrifice a bunch of companions that fit in the retinue of a Rogue Trader>just to have a space marine alongside barely enough companions to fill a full partyThat is the most retarded fucking thing I have ever heard on this general.
>>569928541>EndingsAre irrelevant. Ending slides mean nothing and are a cheap copout of actually writing a fulfilling and interesting narrative within the confines of the game itself. Ending slides are one of the great banes of CRPGs and should never have been introduced to the genre whatsoever. If Idira is fated to die it should happen within the actual game where its narrative weight actually matters.
>>569928552You should be a retarded cuck to recruit him in the first place for this to happen, so that's on you
>>569928274I understand where you are coming from, but the problem with companions actually having the chance to die during the game is that dying usually leads to all content and story they would have had just ends with them dying. >>569928453If he hated both of the shitty elf companions I would respect him.
>>569928941Okay but Raztad hates Marz for fucking his waifu
>>569928915>no bro the destination doesn't matter, only the journeyretarded post
>>569928958I don't undestand his standing regarding Yrliet nowadays though
>>569928453>>569929241go back
>>569928717>>569928725A single Space Marine should, by lore, be worth more than the entirety of the rest of the Rogue Traders retinue, so I'm not seeing the issue here. Yes, I know Psykers are very powerful and so are Navigators, but they are still not a match for an Astartes. The only character that you could actually argue matching Ulfar would be Marazhai since he's a Drukhari Dracon, which lore wise is extremely powerful. It's a real testament to Owlcats understanding of the setting that somehow Marazhai ends up the mechanically weakest companion despite this.
>>569929241His standing is that she's still his favorite but he can make fun of her, that's a plus he has compared to other waifu (and husbando)tards
>>569929241>reddit waifu autist is capable of more nuance than the average anongrim
>>569929368Nobody likes or uses Ulfar
>>569929229The destination should be the end of the game within the confines of the game. What happens from there should be left to the players imagination and potentially expansions or sequels should the game do well. Turning instead to a couple paragraphs that are often poorly written, contradictory and outright stupid to sum up the characters and events in a game is absolute garbage, and it's insane that people even accept, let alone like such a copout way of handling a stories conclusion.
>>569929368Have you considered that space marines are the lamest fucking part of the setting though?
>>569929368Yeah, which is exactly why a space marine shouldn't be a companion. Ulfar's existence is fucking retarded, and your retarded fucking idea that you should lose a bunch of companions to game a fucking spess mahreen is fucking dumb.
>Raztard fanboys
>>569929680>fanboysIt's all ironic, haha....
>>569929368Also a single incubus should a match to a single splace marine(even a named and helmetless one like Ulfar) yet you kill them in droves in the game.
This general has SO MANY fucking retards holy shit
>>569929650No? The setting only exists because of space marines.
>>569929479Of course they don't, since mechanically he doesn't stand out in any way shape or form, and is in fact actively a detriment at multiple points due to how they handled his larger size. He isn't the living weapon and absolute terror on the battlefield that he should be in any way shape or form. It's one of RTs biggest failings, honestly, I would rather they simply didn't have a Space Marine at all if they're not going to represent them properly.
Ulfar jobs to THEE KIBELLAH-SAMA
>>569927017Imo they should have just made the consequences for everyone you bring much bigger
How do you even botch a space marine? Just make him Argenta on crack with 2 billion points of armor
>>569929368Heinrix is a psyker of the inquisition, Cassia a navigator, Idira is unsanctioned and alive at her ageNo, I don't think a single space marine is worth more than the entirety of the rest of the retinue at all.
>>569929679Those are separate things though. Even if Ulfar didn't exist I think you should have everyone that comes with you to Commoragh die horribly to drive home just how fucked up and evil the Dark Eldar actually are. Then in the second stage of the game you have to find replacements for those you lost or cobble together what's left of your retinue into a patchwork squad that has to finish the job.
>>569929830Its funny that space marines are the face of the setting despite being the gayest and least interesting part of it. Every Imperium faction is cooler than Space Marines, and every xeno faction is cooler than Space Marines. So its a fucking tragedy that Space Marines are forced into every single fucking part of these setting regardless of whether they belong or not.
Marinepiggies you have shooters to go play
Are we really going to pretend necrons, tau, techpriests, and inquisitors are cool. Is this shit real
>>569929830Space marines are a cancerous mass that slowly took over everything else because their fanboys will buy literally anything with a marine on it.
Imagine your RT dies in Cumrag and you have to play the rest of the game as Ulfar lmao
>>569929650This isn't WHFB with multiple interesting factions and narratives, my man. 40K IS the Space Marine setting, costarring their sidekicks the Imperium, and their punching bags, xenos and Chaos. If you don't like Space Marines you are ultimately not going to like 40K, since the entire setting is centered around, and purely about them.
>>569930040>the gayestNo that's just you. Crpg from a space marine's pov would've been ludokino, but owlkeks aren't ready for this conversation.
>>569929973A Space Marine should have been a temporary companion who basically fights every battle by himself before either dying gloriously to save you or fucking off to fight another battle without you. The Ogryn in Dark Heresy would have fit better than Ulfar.
>>569930143Techpriests are rad as fuck
What are some fun classes to make my mc in rogue trader bros?
>>569930143We're not pretending, Astartes-autist. >>569930240Playing a CRPG where the only role you can play is Helmetless Space Marine #51231 is so fucking pathetic and stupid that I actually think GW would make it if they could.
>>569930240zero people want this
>>569930040>ForcedIt's not forced at all, Space Marines outsell the entire rest of the other factions armies put together on the tabletop, and ultimately the setting is about selling those plastic models, so is it really surprising that Space Marines are front and center in 40K, and always will be?
>>569930334Did you fix Arue's wings?
>>569930040The funniest part is that the more the setting focuses on them the less cool they get. If they were something we only rarely saw when things really went to shit they'd still be cool instead of groan worthy.
>>569930159I mean, they put their money where their mouth was. They actually bought the product that the lore is designed for, and the people who claim to like the rest of the settings factions buy next to nothing comparatively, are you really surprised GW is going to prioritize Space Marines over everything else with that being the case?
>>569929368hershey's horsey really braindamaged every marine fag out there, now they think performing like a primarch is actually the standard for regular marines
>>569930414A Space Marine doesn't fit into the retinue of a Rogue Trader, plain and simple, doesn't matter how many plastic army men tabletop niggers buy. >>569930425This. There should apparently only be about a million or so Space Marines in the entire galaxy, yet they somehow find their way into every single piece of media or storyline in the setting.
>>569929937I still don't get why Cassia, Idira and Argenta weren't raped. That would've added real emotional weight to the trauma, especially for most players since for some reason it bothers players more when a character gets raped compared to being horribly and agonizingly physically tortured. I don't know why Owlcat avoided doing this, and not just with one girl, but all of them. Baffling decision making honestly.
>>569930585>give every other faction less than one faction>they sell less
Why does the average 40fag fantasize about being a man with atrophied, sterile genitals that can't reproduce
>>569930585Tabletop shit should not be the only thing GW cares about. They make money of video games, so the video games shouldn't be infested with space marine faggotry just because the Tapletop shit is mostly about space marines. That's like a company that sells classical paintings and dildos forcing all the classical paintings they sell to have a stickers of dildos on them because they make more money selling dildos than paintings.
>>569930772>Not a single mention of Yrliet or Jaenooticing
Honestly the marinefags who actually play the tabletop aren't like this. It's the ones who only watch youtube lore videos and memes that get really fucking obnoxious about how they should be the centre of everything.
RT sold with Ulfar being an afterthought nobody really liked and DH will sell with the night lord being a secret companionSpace marines are cool but the setting does ok without them as well. You don't NEED 200 space marines to make the game. Hell most of 40k ttrpgs are about other stuff, even the most recent one.
>>569931000no one here plays the tabletop
One of my friends in real life threw a tantrum when our gaming group wanted to shift to a Deathwatch. Since in his words, the Imperium is fascist and he doesn't want to play as the bad guys
>>569930425They should have at least had them lose more often. One of the big problems with a lot of settings that try to create scary, powerful antagonist forces for their protagonist forces to fight is that, in order for them to remain scary and powerful, they have to actually win and destroy the protagonist from time to time. But since GW writers apparently never got that memo the SM crush everything, every time, "against all odds" and this setting that's supposed to be about valiant warriors struggling against impossible odds, knowing they're doomed but fighting anyway, just becomes capefag tier faggotry since the supposedly "doomed warriors" just stomp all over everything every time. Not to mention the sheer incompetence they started giving their foes over time. Garbage stuff.
>>569931154Should've asked him to define fascism and watch him fume even harder.
>>569930816This. I'd buy Tau Empire minis if it wasn't all just Tau/Kroot/Vespids and mechs and included all their random auxiliaries. But Marines get the most "variety", so people gravitate towards Marines, and GW treats the Mechs like the main appeal for the Tau when the mechs aren't that interesting. >>569931096Yeah, because the people who play the tabletop understand not to go where they aren't wanted and stay on /tg/. We like video games here.
>>569930915>TT shit should not be the only thing GW cares aboutIt is though.
Did they give information what what skills augments give you? Or do we have to wait until the DLC to come out?
>>569931154Honestly if one of my friends had a chimp out over something that stupid it would be over for him
>>569931154>>569931270Which is funny, because the Tau Empire is unironically the closest to be actually fascist in the setting. A centralized eugenically enforced technocracy is more in line with fascism than a decentralized religious empire.
>>569931023Owlcat shouldn't even bother putting Space Marines into the game if they're not going to be extremely powerful and deadly. If they aren't going to bother doing that than just make the game without them presence except maybe as an NPC presence in a combat encounter or something. Ulfars implementation in RT is a joke. Hopefully if there is a Night Lord companion in DH he's insanely powerful and can manipulate the morale system 10x better than anyone else, otherwise he's just going to be another forgotten and barely used companion just like Ulfar.
>>569931304>It is though.It very clearly isn't considering they are licensing game after gameAnd yes, obviously part of it is to market the tabletop, but they are clearly trying to turn 40k into a marvel tier megafranchise
>>569931154That really makes no sense since the Imperium is a cross between a Theocracy mixed with Communism (bizarre mix, but then again the Imperium itself is bizarre so yeah). That said, Deathwatch is an extremely faggot ridden concept that should never have existed since it is more melting pot garbage, so ultimately your friend made the right call.
>>569931383Just what we've seen in the previews.
>>569931720>Communism????????????????What
>>569931553Ulfar IS extremely powerful, he can kill 10 chaosmarines in a matter of a couple of turns, its just that the rest of the retinue is too>NOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE THATSays fucking who
Ulfar being in the game makes some of the combat encounters be at least somewhat plausible. A group of normal humans, even psykers, aren't surviving fights with drukhari elite, a fucking GS patriarch, necrons, harlequins etc.
>>569931096I have about 6000 points across 3 different factions and have been playing since 4th edition. I would be here anyway since I've liked crpg since I was a kid, but owlcat making 40k games recently has been icing on the cake.
>>569930418Here you go
>>569931641They are licensing shit to make their IP more popular so they buy their plastic toys. I don't know if you're aware of this but you can pretty much predict exactly what will be in the latest batch of licensed GW products by just looking at what the most recent and upcoming model releases are going to be. The entire reason we're getting yet another Mechanicus companion in the RT DLC is because GW is pushing them right now.
>>569916727
>>569931553A stock standard marine doesn't have much else on a mortal named ubermensch besides stamina. I'd suggest just removing the wounds after combat system for marines and that would be it.
>>569931819
>>569931904Based
>>569931905The opposite also happens, with the old world being resurrected solely because of a videogameSo no, it goes both ways. As I said, they want to sell more toys, but that's not ALL there is to it.
>>569931174Idk what you mean since rank and file space marines die like flies in every major engagement. Even in SM2 where the three of helmetless named spaces carve through thousands of bugs and chaos marines there are corpses of normal blueberries strewn about in every location.
I can't imagine a marinefag wanting to play a turn based game with lots of talking
>>569931754What do you fail to understand? It's a system ran by corrupt government officials and leaders who siphon all resources off to themselves while convincing the lower classes that they must tirelessly work towards the betterment of the "whole" while leaving them in abjectly miserable conditions, while violently and ruthlessly putting down anyone who objects to this in any way shape or form, with a robust secret police that will execute or imprison you in a slave labor camp/planet the moment you step out of line. I'm talking about actual Communism the way it has historically been implemented, not whatever idealistic version you have of it in your head. The Imperium is practically 1 for 1 with how the Soviet Union was ran on multiple fronts, just with a little religious jihad and fanaticism thrown in for kicks.
i love heinrix
>>569932438>Communism is when the government is corrupt and badI can't believe America is a communist country.
>>569932438That's what fascism also does, both are just collectivist state control scams for retards.
>>569922325He is contrarianThat's why he pretends to dislike Yrliet.The general public likes her
>>569932438lol
>>569924420>Ekundayo that high>putting the lowly Woljif in the same tier as Nok-Nok>putting the useless ass Tristian in the same tier as Arue >Camcam that lowCome on, Camcam just for her quotes alone is worth more than being on the bottom.
>>569932438Communism is gay, but you would have conveyed your point better if you just said "The Imperium is a collectivist authoritarian state with a controlled state-run economy" instead of throwing an opinionated sperg out. >>569932920The "general public" apparently likes every companion, regardless of how shit they are.
>>569932610Maybe read about the Soviet Union and the stuff the KGB got up to, and the labor camps in Siberia, and the absolute state of the relative economic well being of a given citizen. It was hell. America doesn't have anything close to that, and never has, on the economic level alone. The Imperium as presented in 40K is a political state where only the wealthy and powerful government officials have good lives, everyone else lives in a state of perpetual suffering and misery sustaining them. That is practically a mirror image of Stalin era Communism. I also think the entirety of the Inquisition was modeled after the KGB, with, again, religious fanaticism thrown in to spice it up.
>>569933046Not everyone gets gaslighted into liking a character because of overused meme quotes like you do
>>569929632I would have preferred a final of the rogue trader's ship setting out to continue exploring the expanse
>>569928552When did that happen, I only know RT through cultural osmosis.
>>569932920Its sad that people have to rely on mindlessly saying "contrarian" when someone has an opinion that every might not agree with. >>569933107> America doesn't have anything close to that, and never hasThis level of ignorance is hilarious.
40k is space feudalismlike come on
>>569924420foid coded list
Unironically how would you rank the romances in RT?
>>569933046It is genuinely bizarre to me that people actually think anyone likes Camille. Is it really so hard to understand sarcasm and mockery in meme format for such brain damaged individuals?
>>569933341No, not at allThe army is centrally conscripted by the administratum, its not led into battle by the planetary governors.Same for the taxation systemIt only looks vaguely decentralized because of the necessities caused by being in fucking space
>>569931724Oh these look pretty damn interesting for some builds.
>>569933330If you think Americans getting poorer and beginning to struggle is comparable to the stuff countries and people in Eastern Europe were going through during the Soviet occupation is comparable in any way you are absolutely delusional.
>>569933470We love Jae here
>>569933470heinrix > the rest
>>569933665This
>Camille
>>569933501>CamilleMy waifu...
>>569933470kibellah > cassia > any one night-stands you have with NPCs that I'm forgetting > argenta >>> jae >>> power gap >>> yrliet
>>569933619What does it even matter? The games combat is trivialized and pointless by mid act 2, at the latest, even on Unfair. Character building options being added is meaningless in the face of that, there's no point adding more character power to a system that already has too much of it to begin with.
>>569933470Cassia > Kibellah > idk the rest
>>569933470Kebab>Cassia>>>>>>Yrliet=Jae
>>569933470Cassia is honestly the only one worth doing, the rest are terrible.
>>569933470Kibbles>Cassia>Jae>Yrliet
>>569933046Out of sheer curiosity in what way do you think Arue is a better written character than Arue?
Oh so we are really just putting Kibellah and Cassia first in every single post and completely ignoring Jae? Not cool. Rude, even.
>>569933470your waifu bottom tier
>>569934165
>>569933470Kibellah > Cassia > I don't care for the rest.
>>569933046>>569934110Tristian is much better than Arue as he has an actual low point and fall into temptation as opposed to pretending to have a redemption plotline when we meet her already perfectly redeemed.Arue has ONE moment when she shows her demon side IN THE WHOLE GAME, and its in the end of act 4.Even when she jails herself she just acts all cutesy.I get why its like this, she's in the same game as wenduag and camellia, so if she was a schizo too that would make 3 schizo romances, but whatever may be the reason in her current state she's fucking boring
It honestly appalls me that there are people actually ranking Kibellahs romance above Cassias. Madness.
are the anons ranking kibbles first because child ending
>>569934248HEE HEE
>>569934165jae is never recovering from the ex storyline
>>569934480Her ex is irrelevant, she's annoying
>>569934480Jae could exist without that plotline, even without the orgy, and she still would not be anyone's favorite>What if the seductive rogue... is not seductive at all because she's an ugly wine auntWho the fuck at Owlcat thought this was a good idea
>>569934410Yeah Tristian is significantly better written than Arue, it's not even close. Honestly Arue only has fans because she's the best romance choice in WotR, you cannot find a person who just likes Arue as a character, every SINGLE person who says they like Arue romanced her, since that is her entire appeal, she has nothing going for her as a character outside of that. Meanwhile Tristian is interesting and compelling whether or not you're romancing him and his fall/redemption actually feels earned, both ways. He didn't fall because of divine intervention, but his own mistakes and hubris, and he isn't redeemed through divine intervention, but by realizing his mistakes and genuinely atoning for them, of his own free will and desire to repent. Arue and Tristian aren't even in the same league writing wise.
>>569934441No I rank Kibbles first because she's not a mutant with a third eye to hell on her forhead who will continue to morph into some abomination.
You are a rogue trader, you are meant to rear heirs. So far it's Kibellah 1 and everyone else 0.
>>569934410Arueshalae's questline isn't about redemption, even if she's undergoing one in-universe. I won't elaborate further, the rest you'll have to figure out on your own.
>>569933470Only ever done Cassia's since it feels like they extracted the idea from my head.>somewhat tragic romance where you continue to care for your ever mutating gfOnly thing missing was an ending scene where you tell her you're still madly in love with her even after she mutates into some stick bug-fish thing with talons. She'd be so cute.
>>569916354>Are you tired of Disco Elysium clones?Putting the text box on the right hand of the screen rather than across the bottom does not make the game a Disco Elysium clone.
>>569934625It really is bizarre that there are people who do not accept the fundamental reality that womens beauty and charm is inversely proportionate to their youth or lack thereof.
>>569934717That's just as much of a superficial reason as the one he mentioned honestly
Cassia is cute
cassiafags and kibblefags should fight
>>569934749If Owlcat weren't cowards they would've let you have an entire harem of girls you pick out from planet to planet. In the setting lore Rogue Traders have entire pleasure planets yet you don't have a single concubine sitting at your feet by your bed or at your throne on the bridge. Another massive failing Owlcat has no real excuse for, honestly. They should've at least let you choose a concubine from each of the noble houses once you arrive on Dargonus.
>>569933828>What does it even matter?It's cool.
>>569930916Even the Dark Eldar have standards, anon. Are you telling me if you had all of the RT female companions captive and had to what villains do, you would actually take those bullets?
>>569933470Cassia, Kib, and Jimmy are good. They all have endings that are good for them, good for you, and good for your protectorate. Cass is fine with you or in the star crossed lovers ending where she leads her house, Kibb has a happy ending where she takes over the cult and makes them more transparent, and Jimmy has two good endings where he joins you or he takes over the Inquisition. All three of these people have good endings.Jae is in the middle. She's a gold digger but by the end of the romance she does like you for real. Whether you appreciate her antics like broadcasting sex or strip poker with the crew is a complete coinflip, I personally didn't like it.Also in the middle is Yrliet. She gets some points for being a different kind of romance and the idea of having it more spiritual romance is a fine idea, but that's already been done better a few other times, and she loses points for all of the bad things she does and all the bad things she calls you and calls your friends and continues to call your friends even during the romance.Then at the bottom, you unironically have to be both evil and stupid to romance Marz so he's at the bottom. He's bad for you, he's bad for the people around you, and he's bad for your protectorate.
>>569935023No, just like our waifus who even have a shared ending about their friendship we get along.
>>569935212
>>569931771So he doesn't properly represent the additional power a Space Marine would have. Glad we agree. The only character in the game that actually got to get the real power level they should have is Cassia.
I use Toybox to romance both Cassia and Kibbles. Problem solved.
>>569935212>star crossed lovers endingYou regularly see Cassia, there is nothing star crossed about it
>>569935229Thats not how waifuwars goes though
>>569935090It really isn't though. It would only be cool if it was an interesting addition to the combat system that made it more fun to play, but it will not and cannot be that because the combat system, itemization and encounter design of RT is absolute garbage that utterly falls apart at the seams rendering additions like this laughable dross that serve no function whatsoever.
>>569933470Yrliet because I crushed on similar characters at a formative age and my brain is broken > Cassia > Kibellah > Jae
>>569930772Anything that makes heckin whomxn feel uncomfortable is a huge no-no. That's why daemonculaba is so controvercial and is considered the most fucked up thing in 40k by normalfags.
>>569935212Yrliet does not have a romance. A romance by definition must include physical attraction and intimacy, it is the unification of animalistic desire with compassionate affection that produces romantic love, both elements must be present for it to occur. Otherwise, there is no romance and the only love that exists is merely platonic love, no different from that of a love for a close friend or family member.
I feel bad for any non-rtfags still here
>>569935649>YrlietNot a romance
>>569935018Arue doesn't mind when I play with my dollies...
>>569933828Just don't use heroic acts/desperate measures, shit's ludicrous
>>569935832Source?
>>569935738I just looked that shit up and I don't think it's considered fucked up because of women, I think it's considered fucked up because it is gross weirdly fetishistic shit that makes no sense. Reverse C sections that put teenagers into big mutant wombs, really? Absolutely retarded.
>>569931724Can we use the augments on anyone? Can I cut off Cassia's legs?
>>569935916Cry about it to Owlcat, they call it one.
>>569935649>Yrliet because I crushed on similar characters at a formative ageSame and she reminds me of my irl first gf
>>569930772>Cassia, IdiraDrukhari HATE warp shit. Cassia has a gateway to the warp attached to her forehead and Idira will explode any second.>ArgentaDoesn't she more or less escape on her own?
>>569934829You can make an older woman workAspyce is already hotter than jae.Meredith from cyberpunk worked (even as cut content)Jae simply lacks all charm
I killed Daeran.
>>569936309
>>569936186Cassia Ulfar and the spelves can't be augmented
>>569936369Suck your dick and eat your shit?
>>569936407okay argenta come here
>>569933470Kibellah>Heinrix>Marazhai>Cassia>Yrliet>JaeI didn't try Solomourne yet>>569933764Y'see, this should be the dealbreaker even for the cucks, not only were you body cucked but you were love cucked too.
>>569936307Why bother making an older woman when you're working with fiction, though, and can have the ideal? Which is a younger woman. Aspyce would be hotter if she was younger. Meredith would be MUCH hotter if she was younger. Youth IS beauty, especially in women. Why pretend otherwise?
>>569933470the rest are okay I only haven't tried Jae because I don't like her
Ok what should I draw?
>>569936167It makes as much sense as everything else in 40k and is relatively tame compared to anything drukhari can do to you.
>>569936708Regina
>>569936652>Why bother making an older woman when you're working with fiction, though, and can have the ideal?I don't know, why have a villain when evil is not ideal? Why have flawed characters? Why have a story?What kind of stupid question is this? Working with fiction means you get to explore different things and ideas.Also there are people who are genuinely into hags, but that's another matter entirely.
>>569936708her nipples
>>569936708She looks like she would lick public toilets for 15 buvks
>>569936708Something pleasant to look at, unlike this
>>569936652Older women are the ideal though?
>>569930772would argenta getting raped but staying unromanceable still aggravate the cuckbrained?
>>569936915yea
>>569936725Nah. Some things don't make sense in 40K yet are still cool or interesting. That shit is "we must kill the SoBs to bathe in their holy blood even though we are already immune to warp fuckery" level retarded.
>>569918940smelly armpitsmelly vaginasmelly feetwoman
>>569936708Jae of course
why is this general so active?
>>569937137nasty ass bastard
>Playing Solasta>My half orc character keeps talking shit about the orc NPCs for being orcsTrying really hard to fit in
>>569936708Regill.
>>569936834We're specifically talking about why Jae isn't attractive, though, and a huge part of that is her age. If Jae was a 19 year old she would be much more popular than she is, and that is a fact. The point is that if you are going to create a female character and you want her to be a popular romance, making her young is a big component in whether or not you're going to succeed.
>>569937157Crpg golden ageCentury of jarpigger humiliation
>>569937082That's just foid worshipping simp in you speaking which is exactly what I meant above. Shoving teens and gene seed into a womb to force-birth chaos astartes is metal as fuck.
Did i fucked up with Daeran here? I think Daeran considers me a friend but Hawkeblade said something like others wont take the word of a demon like you". So i cant get a good ending for him if i'm a Demon?
>>569932438Yup.... It's based allright
>>569936915It would be even better if you talk to Argenta after you escape Commoragh and she talks in detail about how viciously and horribly she was defiled and taken, and at the end says she will redouble her dedication to the God Emperor to cleanse herself of the indignities inflicted upon her and stay chase for the rest of her life to atone for being tainted by xenos, permanently locking the door on any chance of a relationship with her. Would've been even better if she was a romance option right before Commoragh. Really surprised Owlcat didn't go with this, actually.
>>569937261I was just disputing the idea that you cannot have older womenAs for Jae, yes, making her younger would marginally improve her, but she doesn't look like she was a hottie in her 20s either, even for her age she's mid.She's conceptually wrong, she's completely unable to be seductive even beacuse of her voice and behavior. Whoever designed her, with the fucking metal arm and all, was not trying to make a good looking character, whoever picked her voice actress wasn't either.
Do you like me now anon?
>>569934248ugly!
What I don't like about the DE clones is that they always try to copy the pretentious writing style without attempting to understand why it works in DE. It just makes it unbearably cringe. They're not writers of the same caliber nor have they weaved the pretentiousness into the game as part of the insane and borderline schizophrenic main character's personality.
Are all the DLC companions for RT recruitable early game?
>>569937304No it's just dumb. I don't care about fictional girls getting raped whatsoever, but that stuff is just body horror shock nonsense that only edgy teens think is cool or interesting.
>>569937314Yeah you need a good, legend or aeon path to give him the benefit of the doubtEnjoy your new servitor bro
>>569937575id slop this pic but someone reported me >:(
>>569937674Kibellah early in Act 1, Solomorne early Act 2
>>569937674Only Kibbles.
>>569937891Reported you for what. I just saw it on nexus
Curse of Strahd game fucking WHEN
>>569938010>curse of simpNo thanks.
>>569937569Older women are never attractive, though. The only "older women" people claim to like are ones who have stayed in fantastic shape and use cosmetics, plastic surgery and other methods to appear as youthful as possible despite their age. This is exacerbated in fiction where older women can be drawn to look much, much better than they actually would. As for Jae, I think if they simply had actually be a young, vivacious scamp with a portrait to match, her writing would come off much, much better than it does. As it is she comes off as some old lady trying to look and act cool at the club while everyone just looks on in a mixture of pity and disgust.
I only trust Avellone and Chad Moore to write CRPGs with nuance, maybe also Tim Cain and those Iron Tower Studios guys.The rest, I didn't really like their writing.
>>569937261If Jae looked like some beautiful Esmeralda her personality would still grate on me too much.
Im okay with older women just make them hot, Jae isn't hot
>>569937261Age doesn't mean shit in 40k if you have the money. Jae's age is the least significant contributor to why she is unpopular.
>>569938168>Older women are never attractive, thoughWe went over this already, you are wrong>This is exacerbated in fiction where older women can be drawn to look much, much better than they actually wouldAll women in fiction look better than the average woman does (except for DEI shit)The average woman doesn't look like your favorite romance, the average young woman is a 5, by definition>As it is she comes off as some old lady trying to look and act cool at the club while everyone just looks on in a mixture of pity and disgustYes, because her personality is completely mismatched to her appearence. I agree. I have already conceded this, jae is fucked from her very conception as some old drunken veteran who is also le cute criminal rogue. It doesn't work.Which is why if you do an older woman you have to give her certain personality types, and if you do a younger woman other personality types.
>>569937905>>569937936What about the fat guy?
Give me a ork companion and I will make him eat Jae
I don't think Jae being a whore contributes much to players not liking her.They had no problem with Morrigan, Isabela and Viconia
>>569938167He's simpkinoBasically a serial rapist
>>569938561Unknown, his DLC isn't out yet. He's still having breakfast
>>569938624This place is incapable of accepting that most people have no problems with whores as long as they're likable and loyal to you
>>569938624Oh look, it's this guy again.
>>569922263sauce?
>>569938624It comes down to appearance, Jae is just UGLY. Writing too I guess those 3 are better characters than her
>>569937847I just reloaded and killed Hawkblade. Shame he was a solid dude but i'm loyal to my companions.
Nice try, LelianafagBut Morrigan is explicitly monogamous (in DAO)
>>569938659Eh guess I'll wait then
>>569938697>most people have no problems with whores as long as they're not whores???
>>569938830Someone post it.
>>569938830
>>569938854He defines "whore" as "not a virgin"
I will use the fat bastard over Jae
One day the cuck fetishists will realize nobody cares about their head canons.
>>569938830>>569937282Extremely quality posts.
>>569938854>>569938961No I don't, but this place does. I agree that if she stops fucking around then she's not a whore (just a former whore)
Jae is for people who like whores. I like my waifus virginal, like Aerie
>>569938925She refused him. This is a canonical fact. You can cope in a variety of ways.>But muh scaredWhen she wants a baby she goes to YOU, and if you refuse the romance is fucking broken.She makes clear her opinion on fucking around when she discusses Leliana, she believes in monogamy and thinks its unfair to other people to be fucking multiple people.All you can do is COPE forever and ever.
Aeriefag still here..
>>569938472>You are wrongI am emphatically correct. >Old Drunken VeteranJae as some version of Oghren would've actually been amusing, at least.
>>569939079>former whoreNo such thing. The personality flaws that lead one to act a certain way don't just magically disappear. People, fundamentally, do not change.
>>569939086People who like whores like hot whores not ugly whoresLike, at least Isabela looked like a mighty fuckI wouldn't touch Jae even if she was virginal.
>>569938925>Morrigan and Sten>Wenduag and Daeran>Viconia and SarevokStarting to nootice a pattern with these "I can fix her" girls
>>569939191Morrigan: So have you changed your mind, Sten? I dream about you and I, if you must know.Sten: Don't you belong to the Grey Warden?Morrigan: In fact I belong to no one. And he would not mind, I am certain.Sten: You would, even were I interested in a small thing like you. The Qunari act is… unpleasant.Morrigan: Unpleasant? Unpleasant how? Now I really am interested.Sten: Deadly.Morrigan: And what if I didn't mind? I enjoy a little… animation.Sten: You'd be less animated afterward.Morrigan: It sounds as if I am arousing your passions already, my dear Sten.Sten: Parshaara. Why do you pester me?Morrigan: (Chuckles) Because 'tis amusing, that is why.
sawyer was right
>>569938624Not to mention both main romanceable femlaes in the Witcher are filthy whores and the players liked them just fine.
>>569939292>emphatically correctJesus christIt's "empirically" anon, not "emphatically"And no, you aren't. You can prove that on average older women are less attractive, you cannot prove older women cannot be attractive (because they objectively can be attractive, there's literally older porn starts that make a career out of it)
>>569939381S-SHE WAS JUST JOKING>proceeds to get butthurt at you if you flirt with other girls
>>569939381>paragaph where she literally spells out she's messing with him for shits and gigglesNot exactly helping your case there, cuck fetishist.
>>569938830She talks about sneaking into villages and fucking the men there, and she also implies she fucked animals when she's shapeshifted. She is 100% a complete whore from the very first game.
>>569939381Mhh so surely when he accepts Morrigan replies "yes, let's have sex!", right?>Morrigan: (Chuckles) Because 'tis amusing, that is why.She even states the reason she's bothering him
>>569939551>I'll just joke that my lover is a cuckold lole>I'm sure he wouldn't mindOkay
These guys unironically are okay with their gf trying to fuck another guy because she's "just joking"
>>569939338Isabela flat out is treated constantly by Anders for STDs in DA2, that's how much of a filthy rotten whore she is. Anyone that would consider touching her is not even human.>>569939502
>>569939482Well no, players like Triss in 2 and 3 and in neither game does she come across like the average sorceress slut, nor is it even alluded to.And nobody liked Yen, she's a shrill harpy who is almost as unlikeable as Geralt himself.
>>569939625>She talks about sneaking into villages and fucking the men there, and she also implies she fucked animals when she's shapeshiftedShe doesn't do eitherShe says she seduced a guy to escape the guards once (not even sex, she talks about batting eyelashes) and she never even implies bestiality, that's your fetish headcanonI'm not delusional, she's not a virgin, but any attempt to claim she's some whore is complete fanfiction.I repeat, if you refuse a baby with her she will fucking break the romance before she fucks someone else.
you fags need help
>>569939332Yeah, exactly, that's what I meant by "this place does" thanks for the demonstration.
Owlcat should make a crazy latina romance next
>>569939625Could you at least put some effort into your shitposts mate, it's kinda embarrassing how low quality this is.
>>569939659>>569939728It's not ok, she's a complete retard for that, but the game makes it explicit she's monogamous and any attempt to claim otherwise goes against game canon
Khalid's ghost wonHaerdalis wonSarevok wonSten wonIsabela's clients won Jae's ex bf won
>>569939809>I'm not delusional, she's not a virgin, but any attempt to claim she's some whore is complete fanfictionYou are very much delusional, just not as delusional as the unironic "Morrigan is a virgin"fags. She's had casual sex with multiple men, that makes her a whore, simple as that. This is the part where you try to deflect with Leliana because she fucked more, that won't change the fact that Morrigan is a whore too though.
>>569939502Are you dense? I am, once again, emphatically correct. I did not use a different word than the one I intended to use. If you do not understand what I am saying blame your own lack of knowledge of the English language.Back on the subject at hand, older women can only be attractive if they remain facets of their youth. The speed and rate at which those facets fade determines how much of a shelf life she has, but she is fading all the same. Any woman that you claim is an attractive older woman was more attractive when she was younger. Youth IS beauty, what we find beautiful and attractive is intrinsically connected to it and always will be. You can deny this reality if you wish, but reality it remains regardless.
>>569932438>>569932670>t.lolberts
>>569939892?Leave your mom's basement one of these days and talk to people you knew from school. Realize none of them are any different from what they were 10 to 20 years ago.Or if that's too hard, talk to your mom about if any of her old friends or colleagues really changed in her opinion in the time she knew them. She'll tell you the same thing.Sorry if the reality check is too harsh for you.
I cooked up an extremely stupid character in Kingmaker just for fun and sandboxed it by respeccing an old character just to see if it works like I think and it mostly shook out ok except my Base attack bonus at level 11 is only 4Do you not get stacking BAB from different classes of the appropriate amounts? I think the 4 BAB i have must be from my levels in full BAB classes, Swordlord, Ranger, Fighter and Monk. I guess all non full BAB don't give a BAB til you reach a threshold?
>>569940235Someone tell blud that we're talking about video game characters here.
>days without discussing female virgins: 0
>>569940158So all you have proven with this is that she's had sex before. Yes, I am aware.You have failed to prove she's not monogamous, so my post stands tall.
>>569940142This is why I don't like game writers. Their concept of relationship drama is always cucking the player
>>569940321Or keep acting blithely, not like I give a shit.
>>569940397>she's had sex beforeWith multiple men. Casual sex. This makes her a whore.
>>569940324I wonder if they get this mad when they watch porn stars
>>569940178>older women can only be attractiveYou have already conceded the point
The funny part about the whole>Morrigan was just joking!meme is that if Leliana did the same thing you just know Morriganfags would be (rightfully so) shitposting the shit out of it
>>569940397Just curious, what romanceable characters in CRPGs do you consider to actually be whores and which do you consider to be otherwise? Because I find it bizarre you think Morrigan isn't a whore, if she isn't, than who is? At best you can argue she's like Jack from ME2, she's a whore until you fix her and she becomes loyal and monogamous, but she absolutely starts out as a whore to begin with.
>she's had sex beforeWith multiple men. Casual sex. This makes her a whore.
>An adult woman had sex... before meeting me?! Aiiieeee save me nigger man
>>569940663>meme is that if Leliana did the same thingShe does with Zevran.
>>569940735Yes it does. It makes men manwhores too.
>>569940472>With multiple men. Casual sex.Yes, we know she's had sex before but this is her first love, this is explicit in the game. Where do I state otherwise?>This makes her a whoreAgain, I return to the fact: she is completely monogamous towards the playerWhen you state "random men" you are writing fanfiction, we know nothing of these encountersWhen you state "animals" you are writing deranged fanfiction, this isn't even implied.>>569940723Characters like Jae or Isabela, who are consistently whores instead of having had a couple of past encounters.
You can criticize Morrigan for having a cringe sense of humor, but my read of the situation is that she wasn't actually trying to fuck Sven. She was teasing him. In other words, if he his response was "ok let's fuck right now since you brought it up", she would say she was just joking.
waifufags not beating the incel allegations
>>569940753>an adult woman had sexI find this amusing since it implies that if she had sex as a child, it'd be be different and possibly okay
>>569940867>she is completely monogamous towards the playerCool, still a whore.>When you state "random men" you are writing fanfictionI literally just posted a screenshot of Morrigan saying it.>When you state "animals" you are writing deranged fanfictionI never said that, you're speaking to multiple people.
>>569940472Nah, whores actually get paid, Morrigan is such a raging slut she did it for free.
>>569940923why did your mind jump to children having sex
We desperately need a new Sawyer game
>>569940886>ok let's fuck right now since you brought it upDoesn't he later basically does exactly that and she suddenly starts stammering an excuse to not go through with it?
>>569940723Most of the CRPG romances are whores.Morrigan? whoreTali? whore. you just know she makes her own vibratorsCam? whoreOctavia? whore. you just know her farts don't make a sound anymore.It's easier to just count non whore romances.
@Manthyjanny you gotta clean up the thread
The initial argument is whether Morrgian is monogamous. She is. In fact she's the only LI that absolutely refuses any kind of threesome. Whereas Leliana, Alistair and Zevran happily join Isabella. All at the same time too in on instance. Morrigan also gets very butthurt when the HoF gets flirty with other women like the two in Redcliffe.
>Speaks of adult women having sex>Immediately mentions niggersI know what you are
>>569940886>ok let's fuck right now since you brought it upmy fuarking hero
>>569937157Crpgs in aggregate are reasonably popular. We also get a lot of posts from other random homeless RPG posters. Mostly though a general of all crpgs just has layers and layers of waifu posting as fuel. The rubric of all the complaints, plaudits, and cuckposting you can do across at least twenty-five years of love interests is massive. That's a recipe for 4chan success.
>>she's had sex before>With multiple men. Casual sex. This makes her a whore.
>>569940867>Jae and IsabellaAre completely loyal to you and both stop fucking around once you start the romance with them, and become exclusively monogamous with the PC. How is this different from Morrigan exactly? You can't say Jae and Isabella and whores and Morrigan isn't, either they all are or they all aren't.
You never see Isabelafags melting down like this
>>569941230You forgot to mention that Leliana and Alistair only do that if they're hardened Morriganbro
>>569941025>I literally just posted a screenshot of Morrigan saying it.She said that they professed love to her, that's people she had met before, by definition not "random men". She didn't go to pick up people at the pub.>Cool, still a whore.You want to define the word as anyone who has sex outside of marriage? Fine then. Still, she's objectively monogamous to the player, and comparing her to fucking Isabela is insane.
>Resident cuck still trying to bait peopleback to /bgg/. None of your shit makes any sense.
>>569941347they don't expect her to be tradwife
>>569941230How will she react if you fuck the dalish elf girl? I remember fucking her groom as a female warden and she found it amusing.
>>569937157the alternative is /vrpg/ and no one likes that place
>these waifufags are crazy, right Shereen?
>>569939907thats just xoti from deadfire
Your waifu laughed with another man? WHORE!
>>569941383Are you retarded? The Warden is the first person Morrigan actually falls in love with, if you think the relationship she had with those men was anything but a bunch of flings you're delusional>but they said they love her!I'm sure many would do that when fucking a 11/10 witch, it's called infatuation.
>>569941341>Are completely loyal to you and both stop fucking around once you start the romance with them, and become exclusively monogamous with the PC. How is this different from Morrigan exactly?Jae has literal orgies with the crewIsabela gets aids because of how much she sleeps around, we meet several people she fucked before tooThis is comparable to having a couple of nondescript encounters in the past?>ou can't say Jae and Isabella and whores and Morrigan isn'tI can and I'm doing it.No, I don't think getting aids by fucking everything that moves in the kirkwall pub, and proudly saying how the mutiny started because you fucked all the crew, and having a threesome in dao is even REMOTELY comparable to saying "yeah I've had sex in the past."Sorry but this is simply not the same.
>>569941383What? Are you seriously editing stuff out as you read it or something? She flat out says she's been with men "that lusted after me AND even those that professed love", so she absolutely has had casual sex by her own words.
>>569941617>a bunch of flingsOf course those were flings, the point is that those weren't random people she snuck into the village to pick and fuck without knowing their names, which is what I was replying to in the original conversation, and it isn't even remotely comparable to Isabela or Jae.
>>569941713>so she absolutely has had casual sexOf course she had, at no point in the conversation do I deny thisI'm simply stating>She's mongamous (objectively true, she considers even the idea of sleeping with multiple people at once as wrong)>She cannot be compared to fucking Isabela (objectively true, I shouldn't have had to elaborate this but sadly you retards forced me to)This has caused an inordinate amount of seethe complete with stenposting and bestiality fanfics
>>569941347Isabelafags are actual, unironic cucks. The kind that browse /trash/.
>>569941668Jae gets drunk at a party and fools around with some of the crew before she starts the romance with you, that's it. She never cheats and is 100% exclusive with the RT once the romance starts. Isabela also becomes exclusive with Hawke once the romance starts, and stops fucking around. Again, how is this different from Morrigan?>This is comparable to having a couple nondescript encountersOk, first off, why is it just "a couple" when Morrigan never gives numbers? You are forcefully downplaying Morrigan fucking around because you don't want to face facts. And second, YES, it is absolutely comparable, all three of them had an active sex life before meeting the protagonist, and once the romance starts they commit to monogamy. How in the world can you say Morrigan is any different than those two? It's legitimately the exact same trope. At least you've given up trying to argue she's legitimately different and are just reaching for the thin straws of scope and scale.
I dont get it whats the problem here with Morrigan? She grew up watching her mother sometimes fuck and sacrifice retards who come trying to kill them. When she grows up and starts to visit human villages/towns she discovers man become drooling retards towards this extremely hot goth witch, just like her mother. She uses this to her advantage. Her whole romance is about Morrigan excepting her feeling towards the Warden as legit love. Where is the whore part?
>>569942213>before she starts the romance with youIt can and will happen even when you're romancing her. She also keeps flirting with other people.>Isabela also becomes exclusive with Hawke once the romance starts, and stops fucking aroundlolReminder that she tries to fuck Zevran in act 3, after supposedly committing to you.
>>569942081>Cannot be compared to fucking IsabelaWhy? Both of them fucked around with random guys before they got into a serious relationship. Seriously, what is the difference?
>>569942285The part where she had sex with other guys in casual relationships would be the whore part, bro. You can't call Isabela or Jae a whore and then somehow exclude Morrigan from the same definition. Either they're all whores or none of them are.
>>569942359Difference is Isabella never ties herself to Hawke. Both Da2 endings and Inquisiton confirms this. She is a legit whore who actually enjoys whoring around.
>>569942213>Ok, first off, why is it just "a couple" when Morrigan never gives numbers?It's precisely because she doesn't give an actual number than any such claim is complete and utter fanfictionAll we know is that she's had sex before, that's it.>YES, it is absolutely comparable, all three of them had an active sex >thin straws of scope and scale???How do scope and scale not matter? There is obviously a difference between fucking 3 people and 3000, what are you trying to argue here?
>>569942527For isabella read this>>569942543I never categorized Jae as a whore. Jae is an opportunistic golddigger but she stays loyal if you do as well.
>>569942359>Seriously, what is the difference?What's the difference between having 1000 dollars and 1 000 000? In both cases you have money?What's the difference between a bodycount of 2 and Bonnie Blue?What's the difference between being monogamous and not (Isabela canonically isn't)
>edgy 19 who grew up in a swamp raised by an abusive crazy hag has no concept of love Wow, it's almost like that's the entire appeal of her romance. Her realize that she actually fell in love with you.
It’s the Aeriefag mad that Morrigan is more popular than his waifu
>>569940158NTA, but taming the wicked wild girl is part of the appeal with Morrigan. FWIW Leliana comes pre-tamed.
>>569942320You genuinely make no sense. Jae teases and flirts with a couple characters, which means she's a whore? But, Morrigan teasing and flirting with Sten is just banter and in no way means she's a whore right? I mean wtf man there are direct parallels right in front of you and you somehow think 2+2=5 when it comes to Morrigan even when she is doing legitimately the exact same shit as Jae. If making sexually suggestive comments to other companions while in a relationship means a character is a whore, Morrigan qualifies just as much as Jae does. So why do you qualify Jae as a whore, but not Morrigan?
Morrigan sounds too old for 19.Claudia Black was miscast, just because of Farscape
>>569942846>Aerie out of nowhereAre we starting to see cases of ADS?
>>569942875>Jae teases and flirtsJae literally fucks around with the crewIt's not jokes because she's fucking nude when Cassia enters the room anon, it cannot be a joke
>>569942934Found the Aeriefag!!!!
>>569942875I'm not him. >>569942957Their cope is strip poker lol.
How is Jae a whore? She asks to come with her to see her ex specifically to make sure she doesn't give into temptation and sleep with him.Seems pretty non-whorish to me.
Morrigan fags are legitimately delusional, fine if you like the swamp witch, but she is not a virgin or pure or any of that, she's a sexually active and aggressive character from start to finish, same as Jae, same as Isabella, same as Jack. And just like in all of those romances, you, the protagonist conquer her heart despite the miles of dick she's had and make her your exclusive bitch. Common male fantasy and why it's so replete in CRPG romances, but don't pretend Morrigan is any different than all the rest of them in any way shape or form. Just another redeemed whore trope in action.
>>569942957Wasnt this before you start the romance?
>>569943170Aerie though? Flawless
All I said was that Aerie was the gold standard, and then everyone started to deflect about popularity. CRPG writers, especially the Owlkek ones, don't want to write a female romance character that is>Female>A Virgin>Will marry and settle down with you>Explicitly has children with you
>>569943170>but she is not a virgin or pure or any of thatNobody disputed this (in this thread)>same as Jae, same as IsabellaPlease fuck offIt was already explained in detail why this comparison simply does not work.Isabela NEEDS PERIODAL HEALING FROM AIDSBe intellectually honest for a single second and stop pretending its the same.
>>569943259It's part of Cassia's plotline so it can happen at any point. It's not linked to Jae's plotline or romance status
>569943170go back to bgg and spam your shit there
>>569943363See I knew it was you, but reminder Morrigan and Viconia despite being whores are more popular than Aerie
Why do you keep dragging Isabela into this, she didn't do anything
>>569943480>bring up X>fan of X speaks because you keep bringing up X>SEE I KNEW IT, IT WAS THE XFAGbro
I love my loyal virgin wife who doesn't dream of anyone but me!
ENTER
>>569943676>>569909790You kept doing this last thread
>>569943675>Why do you keep dragging Isabela into thisThe original post that tied her to Morrigan and Viconia mentioned her so she became part of this debate.
>>569943840>assuming you're speaking with the same personBRO
>>569943675She's a whore
>>569943931Yes gold standard is a common phase anons use!!
>700 posts in 5 hoursYou people are animals
>>569943691I have such a hard time buying into the Shart and Karl ship when all of Karl's exclusive content is with Wyll, and Shart lusts after Halsin. I don't care what VAs and writers say, everything I'm basing my arguments is inside the game. If they want me to buy into dyke slop, they could at least put in the token effort like with Aylin.
At least Discordance will be loyal to me
>>569943363What's your favorite Owlcat girl per game?
>>569943745the OG whore
shart incel time lets go!!
Can you say fuck off to chaos after having been corrupted and reclaim your soul?
>>569944151Kingmaker: LinziWOTR: Nenio I have a complete disinterest in 40k as a setting and I didn't buy or play those games.
By accepting to have sex with 3 different men in a brothel Shart is unironically Isabela tier and I mean it when I say it.What were they thinking
>>569944318You're doing Aeriefags no favors
>>569944318>Linzipedo>NeniofurryI know what you are
>>569944191Your best resolution is saying you've had your fill of chaos shenanigans and off yourself. Mortkin did it in fantasy.
How do cuckschizos feel about the fact that nobody else cares about any of this shit
>>569944474"but I had breakfast this morning"
>>569944336Isabela literally cheats on you, Shart only does that consensually, not even close
>>569944474clearly they do, see all the arguing
>>569944124Every stinking cloud has a silver lining
>>569944121Karlach's romance has nothing to do with Wyll tho. You can get her and then sacrifice Wyll to booal and then continue like nothing ever happened.
I like how Saro and Laarthyr are polite to each other
>>569944124She will get mating pressed by Cogg
>>569944550>Isabela literally cheats on youIs it really cheating if you know exactly what you'll be getting with Isabella? Though admittedly i never play as male hawke. Purple FemHawke + Isabella is the only way to go.
>>569944608and a dozen choking f*y
>>569944430>>569944413I like bookworms and nerds. Anyways, equating Linzi like that is ridiculous.
>>569945178>gaider forum postI know who you are
Ra'akhti has a food theme to her character.She finds the human food at the lucid palace soiree delicious but not very nutritious And she tries to feed Haymar some meat she acquired, to help him grow stronger
>>569943745Cucks you with a viking
>>569945297She’s a kroot
why are CRPG writers like this?female romances are okay, but we get cucked
>>569945430Oh that explains the beak
>>569943363why is marriage so important?
I'll play bg1 ladsAny advice going in?I'm only a nucrpg fan, but decently experienced in tabletop rpgs (not dnd though, so I have no idea about whatever edition bg1 runs on)
I'm just excited for the DLC bros.
>>569945651Also I'll be playing on the enhanced edition, in spite of the negative things I've heard about it, to see all there is to see
>>569945639thismarriage is for suckers
>>569945651mod out the Beamdog npcsplay slow and ...>>569945886... nevermind you're too stupid for my advice
>>569945651>>569945886Ranged weapons are king early on. Even on characters you'd expect to use in melee
>>569945651level cap is 8beamdog added portraits and characters stand out badly
>>569945981kek come on anonI mentioned it, so I'm not that naive
>>569945651Read the text, pause often, bows need arrows, you have to rest to change your spellslots,>>569945886EE version is fine just ignore the beamdog companions and expansions
>>569945826Same, I'm unironically excited to play with this fat fuck.
>>569946018>>569945651Adding to that, I believe shortbows get 2 attacks per turn which is very useful, but the EE may have removed that
>>569944068we just love cuckoldry here
When do you guys think the final dlc might drop? Committing to another RT run is not easy and a single dlc might not worth it.
>>569946185>2 attacks per turnPer round* I should have said but you know what I mean
>>569946131>>569946049>>569946018Oh right, I head that you can only bring companions with you in your active party, you can't have a base with the rest as is standard now, so the 5 you choose are probably the 5 you getPragmatic wizard with loose morals, any suggested companions to not miss out on?
>>569944068how would you feel if someone called your wife a whore?you'd probably just take it like a cuck
>>569945826I'm just hoping my Navy guy can finally have the metal arm he has in his portrait. And can use it in battle. Wonder if it'll work with Fleet Combat Training.
>>569946156Owlcat has barely talked about him, not even show him off in battle. Don't like that
>>569946356>you can't have a base with the rest as is standard now, so the 5 you choose are probably the 5 you getTrue, there's no base, but you can change companions often. The ones you kick out will be waiting for you right where you left them (or maybe they go to a character-specific location, I can't remember)
>>569946596>where you left themThis is bound to become very messy very quickly, but oh well, at least I get to use more than 5
>>569946461They did the same thing with Solomorne. The only advertise smoochable dollies
>>569946461He'll be another 2x2 square companion on account of being so fat
Heya! It's me, Eogunn!
>>569946356You start with Imoen who is a thief. Khalid and Jaheira you get really fast. Khalid can be your tank and Jaheira has great spells and also close ranged fighter. There's 2 evil fags you also get early, they are just fodder honestly. BG1 did weird pairs who can't be separated like Khalid and Jaheira and the evil fags. The rest really depends on who you like. Xan is one of my favs but he's a weird wizard and you got the wizard slot. Your alignment does matter for companions. If you are too good or evil, some will leave you depending on your alignment.
>>569946705No they talked about the pets over him. And Solomorne has a romance >>569946719I want to see IT.
>>569946943>No they talked about the pets over himRight, so they didn't talk about him>And Solomorne has a romanceFemale dollies, I mean
Augments will finally fix operative
>>569945651It's almost an open world game. You just walk across the landscape, and your map populates with locations as you encounter them You can easily walk into fights way too hard for you, but it's safer if you stick to the roads
>>569946821i installed a mod for bg1 once, it turnsed xan and that other dude gay.
>>569947113Heh... stick to the roads if ya know what's good for ya, traveler...
>>569947224Uhmmm
For me? It's an elven fighter/mage/thief that romances Aerie. It's uncing time.
>>569945651The Sleep spell and Web spell are your friend through most of BG1. Wizards at these levels are from crowd control not damage. Sleep in particular will make early fights with lots of enemies MUCH easier. Archery tends to dominate in BG1 since they start with 2 APR and have a bunch of inherent advantages in real time with pause combat. Consider having several archers including having some of your fighters be archers. Khalid can be built into an excellent Archer but you'll run across other options for it too. You need one thief, Imoen or Montaron can both handle it and are handed to you right away. eventually you want them to have 80-90 in both open locks and find traps for the endgame stuff.Also, acquaint yourself with how Thac0 (To Hit Armor Class 0) and AC works in AD&D 2nd ed. Its a little odd and one of the more unintuitive things of the old edition. Especially if you're used to 5e and BG3. Luckily Bg2 has a pretty good wiki on fandom. https://baldursgate.fandom.com/wiki/THAC0
>>569947371>that romances AerieStop that
>>569946337The Steam listing says July-September. So September/October probably.
Oh, also don't seethe, but the portraits are uncslop and I will be modding them with the dungeon meshi onesSorry not sorry
dark heresy needs more space marines
>>569947708>So September/October probably.Wishful dreamsIf this DLC comes this late, almost a year after Solomorne, expect at least 2027 for the last one
>>569947713you're not wrong for your decision but the way you talk is annoying>uncslopbrain damage
>>569947713Here's one for Faldorn in her style if you care. Kui never bothered to make her one.
>>569947932The Steam listing had April-June for Infinite Museion DLC. I get the impression they been somewhat developed simultaneously.
>>569942906The toolset describes Morrigan as 28, idk where this 19 year old headcanon comes from
>>569943363arue does all these when you think about it
>>569948235She's not only a whore, she's a hag too?
>>569948396>>569948396>>569948396
