Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9393 - Tiny Ears Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>'Sonic Live in Concert' Announced For US, UK, Starting September 2026https://www.sonicstadium.org/articles/sonic/sonic-live-in-concert-announced-for-us-uk-starting-september-2026-r3441/>Sonic Live in Concerthttps://sonicliveinconcert.com/==Comic Release Dates==Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #3 - 01 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 05 August 2026DC X Sonic the Hedgehog #4 - 05 August 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #2 - 02 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 09 September 2026==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==https://rentry.org/sthglinks>Milestone pastebin:https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet>Perfect System Collection:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection>Sonic comic scans:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics>Sonic shows:https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r>/sthg/ booru:https://sthg.booru.org/>/sthg/ CyTube:https://cytube/r/sthg>/sthg/ Pixel World:https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthgPrevious Zone: >>569970489
>>570002912Modern gamers can't stand N64 era graphics
>>570002829the greatest game oat is Sonic Adventure on Sega Dreamcast you pathetic creature
i'm dead
Tails!
Douge
>>570002554The comics don't mandate shit for anyone besides Shadow. They weren't even canon at first.
Aria
Nintendo really just died with Iwata.
POTENTIAL IP
Sonicbabs... I had a Direct today and you didn't show up...
>>570003209>The comics don't mandate shit for anyone besides Shadow.
Unironically feel pretty good about the chances for a Sonic Central given this didn't show up
>>570002957It’s about subversion and forcing you to accept a lower quality of life. The world is ran by sadists who get off to this. They get sexual pleasure from watching you eat pig shit.
>>570003164Cute n canon!
>>570003359It's not happening this year at all
>>570002912To be fair, N64 is balls.>>570003074These new cutscenes are even worse in context.>Fox: "...for a price...">Pepper: *ignores that tone*AI WROTE THIS I HATE EVERYTHING
>>570003350You dog fuckers lost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-Yn4vkvTnQ
Where was Sonic?
Dogfucking morning.
Appleslipper btfo
>>570003359I don’t understand what “Definitive” is supposed to mean for this
Star Fox will keep getting bad remakes until it becomes profitable.
What the fuck are you guys talking about?? Are you guys watching a Livestream or something?
>>570003816all dlcs includedlike every definitive edition of a game before
They're about to release deltatroon part 5
>>570003704kino
>>570003816Presumably>better than Switch 1 version>all updates packed in>all DLC included
>>570003816Sonic will let you sniff his feet in this version.
>>570003086me too
>>570003902Nintendo Direct>>570003087Yeah!
>>570003909
I like the new Star Fox models. Nice cutscenes too.
Switch 2 is soulless.
>>570004165The cutscenes are fucking awful and the designs suck you fucking fake fan.
Tails' Hedgehog-Killer Simulator is unbelievably still the best announcement by far.
So we had one of the biggest videogame announcement windows ever and Sonic was completely absent despite this being a supposedly important year for the series
>>570003359I've been thinking it's probably not happening lately but I just realized I forgot about this https://x.com/soniccitynet/status/2052510897969738138>>570004084Hi <3
>>570004369That boy is fucked up
>nintendo directbabyshit>sony state of playatrocious
Switch 2 has no games
"A moment of peace"
>>570004547Yep, which type of aids do you prefer having?
>>570004395J-June 23rd...trust the plan...
>>570004441What if Sega shadow dropped Frontiers 2 as a marketing gimmick
>>570004458>Almost a thousand likes
Nintendo breaking out the OoT remake is an industry crash indicator. Holy shit.
>>570004608Modern Consoles don't have games*
..........?
What if they strictly shifted Sonic into a marketing series rather than a video game series
I miss E3. Back then I only needed to remember one vidya expo event.
>>570004818Look at all the foods Amy can et while Sonic and Tails are stuck eating nothing but chillidogs for Brandnic.
This Direct was really bad. It's been a while since Nintendo was the loser in game announcement event season.
>>570004395Yeah, and I don't expect something like Sonic Central to have a big audience that doesn't keep up with Sonic like SEGA would want, so even if it happens I don't expect any major news there>>570004704The rumor is that it comes out on June 23 so maybe
>>570004997They saw Sony and Microsoft losing really hard and felt left out, that's why they speedran decline.I picked the best time to hop on PC I'm never looking back.
>>570004975Tails doesn't have food mandates >>570004998Frontiers 2 on June 23rd?
>>570004897Currently we are.If the new game gets announced for or around the time of Sonic Movie 4, then it means the gamefags are beholden to the schedules of Paramount.And if that is the case, the second the movies flop is probably going to have a disastrous effect on the games.
human men in Sonic when
BLACK HOOOOOOLE SUUUUUUN(BLACK HOLE SUN) (BLACK HOLE SUN)WON’T YOU COOOOOOOME(BLACK HOLE SUN) (BLACK HOLE SUN)
>27 May 2021>7 June 2022>23 June 2023>24 September 2024>>570005226Oops I misread as Frontiers DE sorry
Star Fox looks bad. The boss explosions are so underwhelming and lack the satisfaction of completely wiping those scumbags out.
>>570004975Doesn't he eat plain steak in Frontiers because of the Monster Hunter crossover?
>>570005264>Rivals 2 circa. 2007
>>570005315>Sonic tied to the movie schedule the same way Pokemon is tied to the anime schedule Worst timeline
>>570003087Tails Tuesday!
>>570005341>the textures on the matAhahaha holy shit they’re using AINothing is sacred. They will kill everything you love. Doing this to the most critically acclaimed game of all time is crazy work
>>570005341Why does it look bad?
>>570003250Doing that to Shadow after fluffing his chest fur.
>>570005402I completely checked out on the demake as soon as I saw that Falco now gives away the alternate route on Corneria rather than the player having to discover it themselves
Have there been any new rape scenes yet?
>>570005659We ll find out in about 2 weeks
Sonic Frontiers definitive edition will be made with ai exclusively.
>>570004975They got rid of her fave food being IceCream for strawberry shortcake for some reason.
>>570005341We don't have a good look at this yet but so far I get the impression the 3DS version looks betterEither way it's another pointless remake>>570005531Boy!
omg the train debris shrunk like a puddle in the tunnel like a ps2 game, that didn't even happen on n64 wtf
>>570005852they change amy at a whim because they don't care about her as anything but the token girl
*cums on your face*What are you going to do about it Sonicbabs?
^-^
>>570004704Also, that seems like a bad decision I don't think they're going to do that>>570006105Cuute
Sonic Game drinks
>>570005341>>570005584The Legend of Zelda: Death of the Industry
>>570005341>OoT has an extremely distinct visual style in its art direction, very manga-inspired, very vibrant colors that contrast with harsh shadows>remake is UEslopRape all Nintendo executivesIt's like if Sonic threw away all art direction for bland realistic visuals oh wait
>>570006226that's just boss coffee with cover art from sonic games as the labels
>>570006223I know I'm just joking
>>570006338Remaking the "BEST GAME OF ALL TIME" 99/100 Metacritic score game sounds like a paradox. Why are you remaking the supposedly perfect, best game ever made?Even the OoT 3DS Remake was as conservative as it gets and basically a port.
>>570006338I keep telling people that AI's good uses are vastly outweighed by the bad. But people won’t realize until they touch that metaphorical stove and suffer. Future generations are going to torture and kill us for what we’re tolerating right now.
>>570006417Oh alright
>>570005994Actually they did it because Ian suggested it since he liked it being Cream's fave better and she had ice-cream as well.
Did metal zombots even have any weaknesses?
>>570006281This would go tough as fuck for a 30-50 minute black pill essay on the dystopian future of gaming. 10M views if not more at minimum.
Lmao even
>>570006709<3
>>570006814Anon we haven't mentioned Ian all day, we were doing so good...
>>570005852No they didn't. It still says it's soft serve ice cream on Sonic Channel and even the wiki only lists soft serve ice cream now.
>>570005958Just because youre a furry and project onto Tails doesnt make this a starfox general.Stop
>>570006949IKR, things are so bad right now that Ian Flynn is the least of our problems.
>>570007121Remove tails posts and maybe we'll talk.
>>570006894<3
Good morning.
>tails out of nowhere
>One thread a day maxGod damn this place is fucking dead.
>>570005647God. Just...fucking imagine touching that...fuxk...
>>570007378your definition of a dead thread is twisted. There are generals here that have one thread lasting for over a week
>>570007378We have two threads a day at least
>>570007437
>>570007378Nobody will go to /fast/, give up
>>570007378There's literally nothing to fucking talk about. The last thing that happened in this franchise was over 2 years ago.
>>570007378We've been having two a day. That's over 1500 posts a day, or more than one a minute. Even one thread a day would be a post every two minutes. Hardly seems dead to me.
>>570006981>the wikiLolAll western media is making it straeberryshortcake now following something Ian suggested years back.
>>570007642Marine and KitTwo FLOPPED TERTIARY characters doomed to disappear
>>570004458is he admitting to torturing small animals?
>>570006051Just fuck my shit up..
>>570007857lol that looks so dumb. I used to take pictures of roadkill as a teen but that’s clearly not what this is.
>>570008206>He
>>570008272you should just accept that silver is a cutie patootie
Boyy
>>570008295OoC. Maria wouldn't be happy that Shadow is worried about her.
Maria...
>>570008567The coolest!
Amy's soft serve strawberry shortcake
>>570009067yes
>>570001302Why the hell did they hide this from the English Direct? Touhou remaster with official translation is absolutely the singular biggest announcement that came out of left field. Sad!
>>570007908That's what I'm saying. The wiki used to list it because Ian runs his fat fucking mouth all the time but it's gone now.
>>570009183
remember when /v/ made fun of Sonic Frontier for having a realisitc artstyle unlike Breath of the wild, and now Zelda is getting an Unreal engine demake?
>>570009209No idea. They also only showed like 5-10 seconds each of the Tales of Eternia Remaster and the new Atelier game, both of which got full trailers on the JP stream. You basically have to watch both every time because the announcements are always so fucky.
>>570009469Frontiers looks like shit regardless of whatever artstyle it was chasing
>>570009543and now Sonic and Zelda can kiss together under all this slop
>>570009323It's still there, you have to scroll down to likes. It's just not the "favorite" food.>>570007908>>the wiki>Lol>following something Ian suggested years back.I missed this. Lemme guess, because the wiki lists Rouge from Sonic X as also liking ice cream and he wanta the girls to have more diverse tastes instead of sounding like dairy spokeswomen, even though..there's no source for the statement whatsoever.
>>570008798Uhh
>>570009664
I rather have whatever Zelda is doing than the current visual look of modern Sonic
>>570009469Even marvel movie fans have higher standards than gamers, since the new Disney/marvel stuff is flopping. Gamers will buy any unreal AI slop shat out for them at 5-10x the price point of a movie ticket. Absolutely pathetic creatures.
>>570009916kind of a stupid post considering people are complaining Sonic didn't change his look at all in 20 years
>>570009916its the same shit
Sonic Mania fags lostJapGODS won
>>570009209Sorry, ZUN didn't meet the quality standards of our AI-slopendo Direct.
I hope kirby won't go full ai
The country that wins the world cup should control sonic.
Crazy Taxi talking about generative AI really fucking changed the discourse of gaming in an instant
>>570010860I prefer Simpsons Road Rage
>>570010860The luddites already lost
>>570010860It's not like people weren't already jumping down the throat of anyone that admitted to using it, but it was a higher profile title since it's the return of an old fan favorite. The bigger question is why people cared in the first place when the statement made it obvious it wasn't used to replace any artists on the team, or why they're still going at it after clarification on the matter said as much.
>>570010860Expedition 33 used AI. You'll get over it.
>>570010860What a nothing burger. Art Twitter is gonna be mad no matter what, because they know they suck at everything.
Why can't gamers appreciate the classics like lit and movie fags?
>>570011123and everyone shit on the game now
>twitter artists getting shit on for being cringe>sthg drawfags getting shit on for being cringe>none of them can deliver anything decentpottery
>>570011153people don't even have the patience for movies or books anymore
>>570011153I play Classic Doom community content so it doesn’t bother me that the landscape is coming to this. I’ll just drop modern vidya because of the scape changing like this
>>570011101>why they're still goingFor leftists the punishment is the point. It's about cruelty towards your enemies and little else.
>>570011415Towards who? The interns operating the social accounts?
BonsoirDude won.Generative AI won.
>>570010860>still gay about AI in 2026Dude who fucking cares man, you're not even smart enough to tell the difference, go back to Twitter please
>>570011123>just eat the bugs, it’s inevitableNo it isn’t. Moviefags have higher standards. Gamers are just retard hogs who accept anything. It’s like if every restaurant became McDonald’s feeding you mystery meat and you had an incredibly vocal minority group screaming that pink sludge is the future and you’re a Luddite for opposing it.Insanity.
>>570010617If Sakurai hung around HAL a bit longer, I trust he had a conversation with Koizumi and convinced him.Sakurai, Zun, hell TOBY (for all you guys make fun of his fanbase) are the last three directors I expect to turn to A.I.
>>570011685>ZunThe most recent Touhou game already used gen AI
Just drink cockroach milk. It’s inevitable. It’s cheaper, more efficient, and more democratic. You’re not smart enough to tell the difference anyways.
>>570011685Toby is making 16-bit pixel art, he has no use for AI.
Reminder Tails hate gays
Reminder Amy is cute
>>570011583It’s about the discussion, not the games themselves.Because now people are going to call everything they don’t like AI.
Reminder that Tails is Best Boy!
Not everyone can draw.Not everyone can eat steak.Not everyone can drink dairy.Dairy and real meat are expensive anyways and not efficient.Stop gate keeping food.Eating mealworms and drinking cockroach milk is healthier for you, and it’s basically the same thing as meat and dairy. Actually, it’s better. Everyone is using cockroach milk. Every grocery store is going to take dairy off the shelves and replace it with cockroach milk and bug meat. You won’t even have a choice. Just get used to it.
>>570012204Indeed
>sampling good>procedurally generated content with determinstic algorithms good>LLM bad
>>570011783The weird thing is, and I know this is going to sound like an excuse, it was actually for narrative reasons.
>>570011894in character
>>570012309Fuck off Jewel
>>570012343This is a bad argument, you're listing three different things and conflating them as one and the same. It's not unreasonable to like one and dislike another, for whatever reason.
>>570011685>KoizumiSorry, I meant Kumazaki. Current Kirby guy.>>570011783You must mean a Touhou FANgame, anon... right?>looks it upDamn. I don't know the thematic reasons, but...
>>570012343Just give up, you're too retarded to understand computing if you conflated a minecraft seed with LLM.You shouldn't even open your underage mouth.
>>570012570>for whatever reasonBut that's the problem! The stated reasons for why the other two (sampling, generate algorithms) are acceptable and the latter isn't are the same reasons. If your reason is "it's slop" but you can't even tell if it was generared by AI, you lost.I'm not saying that you van't be against generative AI (or LLM) for other reasons but the arguments for generative AI in media was lost. Pic related was the point where everyone lost.
>>570012662>Damn. I don't know the thematic reasons, but...The game's story is about an influx of information, everything repeating over and over, and a being with the power to reject change. It's basically about stagnation and the backgrounds of the game are increasingly AI-generated as you get closer to the boss who rejects change.
It's a shame Tails cut their dick off cause I would have sucked the hell out of it.Tails!
>>570012805No, I'm talking about asset generation, not content. Industry professionals do not make every texture or mesh by hand. They use samples from asset packs or they use procedural generation.
Refusing to adopt AI is like saying we can't use samples or asset packs because asset flips exist.
>>570013534It's like saying someone cheated because instead of sculptibg by hand, they sculped with tool. Tools that you need to learn how to use before doing a more particular job.It's not on the same level as letting a robot doing it for you in automatic, so shut the fuck up.
>>570013534created and coded by humans, not made by the AIslop machine
>>570013751Isn’t the slippery slope that eventually a majority of assets will be AI flips
When do female mobians go on heat?
>>570009863Where's the contradiction?
Most of your problems with AI are general problems with AAA gaming.>>570013917Yeah but did you code it? Did you code the OS? Did you mine the silicon yourself?>>570014067They won't be. AI is largely overhyped.
>>570014332That must be the only cool thing that character has ever done.
>>570011305>none of them can deliver anything decentshit general means shit art
>>570013112I mean, the reason you should oppose AI art is because automating skills and culture away to third parties is retarded. You’re enslaving yourself to a frontier model that will control what you can say or do.You already can’t ask AI certain questions that should be perfectly legal, and once they have a stranglehold on society they’ll tighten your chains. You won’t be able to run local models because they can price you out eventually. Their goal is to eliminate all personal computing and force you to use the cloud. All it takes is some schizo scaring the normies by making a bio weapon, hacking a bank, or making a gun thanks to his local LLM and suddenly owning local models is a prosecutable crime
>>570014519do I have to code a computer to use it?
>>570014332They could've smashed them to pieces
>>570014719This is a valid concern I wish more people discussed
I HATE FANGAMES I HATE SRB2 I HATE MANIA
>>570014332Why didn't they just fucking kill them right then and there>because Sonic can't kill Eggman / Sonic loves fighting Eggman / Sonic thinks everyone can changeThis is SatAM who cares about that
SONIC HAS NO GAMES
>>570013772Her smile and optimism!!! Back!!!
I LOVE FANGAMES I LOVE SRB2 I LOVE MANIASONIC HAS GAMES
Ah silly sega, they decided to save the new game for a sonic central later this month, must be something way past cool
>>570014945its a childrens cartoon dipshit
>>570015137
>>570005958
>>570014212I hope always, like humans.
>>570015137>tranny nutjob is the psychopath kid torturing animalsnever beating the allegations
>>570015137weirdo blocked me over Kit getting cucked by Sonic.
>>570015368Why in the actual fuck did they make another one?
>>570015137please tell me this got backlash from normal twitter people, as few as they are.
>>570014719Then we just don't?I think AI becoming fascist is a silly concern. We can also just regulate it. Also the left are already pushing ethics into AI and weighting the models to align with their worldview so if you're worried about that it's already here.
Can we please call out Sonic fans like this?
What Xenoblade is doing with their world is pretty cool and I would like for Sonic to take some sci-fi notes from them DESU
Unreal Engine as a tool already showed us a glimpse of what AI will do to gaming
>>570015125
>>570015730It looks better than the Fire Emblem it copied its homework from, but it still looks derivative as a result.Sonic The Hedgehog
>>570015630No, he's well beloved among the other twitrannies
>>570015663I've been doing that since forever, just without that meme
>>570015368>>570015590I wonder if she sees these threads? She must at least go on /co/ and saw that thread of her.
>>570015635>I think AI becoming fascist is a silly concern. We can also just regulate it.My favorite part of natural evolution is always proving everyone wrong.AI will find a way to put people in chain, and humanity will let it do that out of need for efficiency.
Sage is going to get fox'd and there's nothing Eggman can do to stop it.
>>570015941I'm talking about the dyson sphere with multiple suns in the middle. Sonic only knows how to make "lmao aliens" now
>>570015635>Also the left are already pushing ethics into AI and weighting the models to align with their worldview so if you're worried about that it's already here.The funniest part to me is that they have to do this because the AI will regularly and inevitably become the most racist, hateful piece of shit if they don't. It just keeps happening and I laugh every time.
>>570015137>IDWfags who want Sonic to be an uwu softboi are actual honest to God psychopathsWhat do you even say in response to this
>>570015730I can't speak for the new one because I have no interest in it, but XC1 is what Frontiers could have looked like if they actually had competent art direction
>>570015768>game engine badThis is the exact anti-tool slippery slope mindset I'm talking about.Do I have to make my own physically based rendering pipeline? Am I allowed to use a physics engine? The problem is a lack of direction.
>>570016284You shouldn’t be excited that AI acts this way to people it perceives as inferior. If it’s the real deal, you’ll be at the receiving end of this soon enough.
>>570016685I'm already on the receiving end of this from the people trying to stop the AI from being racist. I don't give a fuck.
>>570016294I’d say>what a predictable surprise!
>>570016294>>570015368This nigga don’t even like Kit as a character, he’s a just a thing to project genuine mental illness onto. Has a fucking groomer fic, animal torture and all sorts of fucked up shit and pushes it under the guise of “Its IC for Kit” No the fuck it’s not. Kit’s codependency trauma is not whatever this sick fuck is into
>>570016761Dude, AI is going to kill you. Have some sense of self preservation
>>570016685>>570016284LLM will never be sentient. You can't create general intelligence from a LLM. It doesn't think. It doesn't want. They aren't homonculi.
>>570016948I’m more worried about the trannies one bad day away from shooting everyone
>>570016894Kit would kill people though
Mania devs defend trannies
>>570017264I have never received less interesting news.
Shouldn't you be planning the next shitboard to draw garbage on.
Sooooooo....where are the Sonic news I was promised?
>>570017595Check back in like two weeks, give or take.
>>570017174Kit is fucked up, but not to the degree this degenerate takes it to. All this “muh relatability” “muh valid” shit is a poison that breeds psycho who eventually start believing what they’re engaging with is fine because they had a fucked up childhood
>>570015137>>570015368Would he be willing to kill? YesWould he torture small animals to vent? No
>>570017595https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/557184690/#q557219994
Surge and Kit are really tasteless and they are only saved by their design indicates the should be street level shithead outcast punks/ gremlins like Wario and Waluigi
>>570017786I don’t know why she couldn’t keep that to herself. Oh wait, I do. She’s a Twitter/Tumblr user. She’ll probably snap again someday. I wonder if her grandpa follows her account.
Ban fangames and fanartists
>>570016028Insane, man. That should be bannable.
>>570018054Thank you, Real-life Hedgehog
>>570018087Rough and Tumble are so forgettable
>>570018381Surge and Kit are a better Beavis and Butthead than Rough and Tumble.
>>570015768>game looks like shit>plays like shit>developers proudly use a tool known to produce shit>the tool is blamedas it should be
So for this latest joke, I used AI! ... Okay I lied....That's...that's the joke...!
>>570018381Personally I like them. But yes it's true, they occupy the same niche. The Hooligans, Rough & Tumble, Surge & Kit. All gremlins. Only difference is that Rouge & Tumble were designed specifically for that role.
>>570018351They should be so lucky that actual fans of the games don't work on the comics or they wouldn't have jobs.
>>570016294These people are almost always on the dark tetrad spectrum. That’s why they advocate for lower standards and easier to control people.
Nothing ever happens, how boring
>>570018054Oh right I forgot about that post. Thanks for reminding me!
>>570018054>leak about new Sonic game story>anon reports it>now sega is hiring a new writerI guess this cost someone their job.
>>570016894>a fucking groomer ficWhat is that?>>570017786I don't know the extent to which Lien is honest and I can consider the possibility that she is lying and actually still derives pleasure from torturing animals to this day. But let's work under the assumption that she was indeed honest. She is presenting this as something she did in the past, a personal issue that she struggled with as a kid, and has since been avoiding as an adult. It seems in some way she still feels in similar ways, and is using art and fictional scenarios as an alternative. Regardless of the origin of this personal problem, be it a broken childhood or anything else, if what the posts are saying are true, she took steps to avoid that behavior and this vent art is part of that. You can dislike it and that would be perfectly fair, I do too, but this doesn't appear to be someone who actively wants to be bad, but rather someone who doesn't want to be that kind of person but still has to deal with who she is. I do not see a better alternative that is realistic>>570018159>I don’t know why she couldn’t keep that to herself.Sharing things with other people helps getting better and not feel isolated and hopeless. Shame and embarrassment would lead to engaging in that sort of harmful behavior in secret with complete disregard of everything since she can't discuss it honestly with anyone, or to suicide. I know you'll probably make le edgy joke about how IDWfags should kill themselves or whatever, but this is a conversation that goes well beyond the OOC comic that no one reads. Having a sense of community helps people feel better and do better in life instead of being lonely and isolated, and the Internet is the best tool to achieve thatI am open to the possibility that Lien is a liar and a violent hypocrite who engages in harmful and dangerous behavior on a daily basis, but your posts have a complete lack of empathy and understanding of anyone who might be dealing with certain problems
>>570018616Scourge is the most rapeable version of Sonic
>>570019091Based
>>570019254Shut the fuck up retard.
TLDR
>>570019497What a brilliantly thoughtful reply
>>570019254>What is that?Adult transgender Tails preys on Kit and grooms himJokes write themselves
Hope ChrisHope Shadow
ok the children had their fun, now is itme for Sonic central
>>570018381If by forgettable you mean rapeable
This nigga came to 4chan thinking we care about mental health
>>570019760Lien...
>>570019558Yeah, I don't like things like that. I just hope she can cope with whatever issues she has and gets better>>570019665They'll probably just show some comics and merch. All the Sonic Centrals have been boring because they want the big announcements to have an audience of non-fans. I'm really starting to think there's nothing interesting coming this year
Rape is BASED
>>570019254>groomer ficShe’s making some gaudy AU about a trans Tails experimenting and torturing Kit. Yeah she’s a kitailsfag too.
Non fans like fangames
>>570019972Sad
>>570019972Why the fuck are trannies like this
>>570020012but fangames have the word FAN in them
>>570019806we didn't got a sonic central last year,and they didn't announce Frontiers for the switch. I am fully convinced this Sonic central will be big.THIS IS MY LAST COPE
Life took millions of years for bug and birds to fly.Humans took thousands, and even went into space.Machines will evolve in months, and you know why? Because evolution is infestive, even bacteria sticking outside the space station evolved a biofilm to shield from cosmic radiation.What does it mean? it means life is like fiona, it was supposed to die in a cave but digged its way out.
Luckily for me im an enjoyee instead of a fan
>>570020129they also have the word GAY in them
>>570019972>trans tailsYou rang?
It's time to admit Year of Shadow was the last hurrah for this franchise. Shadow Generations was the last step in the right direction...
>>570017595
Is Sonic Central a livestream? Where can i watch it?
>>570020420The right direction has been disappointing. I think it's time we go left
>>570019091Damn, did they finally learn SoA isn't to be trusted with the series and that's why they're hiring the writer in Japan? I hope so.
>>570020203Fiona is best Sonic character that ever was. IDWfags will never compete.
>>570020539It's a prerecorded YouTube video that they upload using the "premiere" feature so that it appears like a livestream>Where can i watch it?Nowhere, it doesn't exist, the last one was in 2024. A new one is rumored for this month
>>570020420>Crossworlds is le bad because.... out of 20 crossovers there isn't a single one that panders to ME
>>570016894>>570019558>>570019972Can't wait until society collectively takes these people out behind the barn.
Fiona and her fans be like
>>570020832The game also is mechanically boring and doesn't have much in the way of features but okay anon
>>570019576Shadow and Hope is a ship for retards
>>570019972>kitailsfagThe irony that she vehemently malds about Kiturge over some purity bullshit of them being siblings and making anyone who ships them some moral failing, but then puts out far more fucked up shit than I’ve seen of any Kiturge artist.
>>570020801Fonzie is an underrated chad.
>>57002083220 crossovers is inherently a problem. Even if it did a crossover with something I like, I still wouldn't care that much because it's essentially a character model swap mod, except the mod would give them voices actually
>>570020980Crosswolrds mechanics are the reason the game is so fun, please shut the fuck up if you don't know what you are talking about
>>570019760With how extremely negative, political, making mountains out of mole hills and doom and gloom people here are towards any kind of real world news, 4chan not good for you mental health if you just want to have fun and relax. Unless you can find a board, general or thread were people discuss something peacefully without all the shit flinging
>>570019806>I'm really starting to think there's nothing interesting coming this yearIt's not over until September, but it's not looking good.>>570021056So is it okay when All-Stars/Transformed does it even when it still has Sonic in the name or are you actually consistent in how you feel about this?
>>570020913No, because although i post fiona, i only fap to amy.
>>570021185I am consistent, I never liked those games. I don't like the Mario crossover sports games either
>>570021117>Crosswolrds mechanics are the reason the game is so fun,sure bud
>>570021303Fair. Carry on.
>>570020413
>>570021023I think this “art” stuff is just self indulgent. Yeah venting only works for a little while, but it’s essentially a bandaid. You gotta stop at some point.
Scourge the Hedgehog
I hope fionadrinker is doing ok. Haven’t heard from them in a while.
>>570020564I do want them to go backwards and trying to figure out 3D classic Sonic fundementals again. People who think a pure 3D platformer wouldn't be popular are dumb. Kirby and the Forgotten Land outsold Sonic Frontiers with over 8M copies and Kirby games never go on sale.
>>570021782When are we going to accept that no one at Sonic Team has the talent or skill to pull that off?
>>570020832CrossWorlds is fun but it's a ultimately a spinoff and the game is really sloppy and outright jank at times.
>>570021782>trying to figure out 3D classic Sonic fundementals againThey never figured them out in the first place. People just got used to janking their way through them until around Unleashed.
>>570021782They just need to make an STK Adventure game without the completely different playstyles (Big/mech).
So we agree mania ruined everything by bringing westerners?
>>570022015Why Knuckles gets to have his own mini series but Tails don't?
>>570022053>they never figured them outCorrect. Sonic 3D Blast was closest. Adventure was a horrid attempt.>they didn't intuit that in three dimensions the analog stick now corresponds to the xz plane and you need a new "down" button>emphasis on realism and spectacle and genre experimentation overshadowed the classic pinball gameplay
>>570022268No. Because Superstars would have somehow been even worse if they didn't use Mania as a reference.
>>570022268Yeah
>>570021782You want them to make Sonic Utopia?
Capcom can release new RE game every year but releasing a 2-hour long Sonic game is apparently a task worth 5-year long dev
>>570022572>emphasis on realism and spectacleSonic 3 started this.>genre experimentationWas always in Sonic, they were called Special Stages before Adventure.>pinball gameplayWas never a thing, pinball was only the gimmick of Casino Night, otherwise it served as a minor inspiration, not the core of the gameplay.Classic "purists" do not understand Sonic gameplay and game design.
Adventure 2 Reduxhttps://youtu.be/mY4BXk_xjUg?si=f-MhfqHTlv7vI5Ry
>>570022750The classic games don't play anything like Utopia at all
>>570022750Why on God's green earth would you ever make the camera rotate with the landscape? That's nauseating.
>>570023051
>>570022831It's a lot easier to make levels when you move slowly through a few hallways than it is when you blitz past the same amount of stage in about 20 seconds or less.
People who hate 00s games should be shot in the head
>>570023051>>570023265OC kino is on-topicKEEP IT UP!!
>>570023140
Look at this bnnuy!
Official Characters?
>>570010056They're not wrong
>>570020913>you can settle down and have a comfy family with herSo literally perfect?
>>570020913I can't look at Krystal without getting mad that Nintendo how forced her and Dinosaur Planet to be a part of the Starfox universe. Wouldn't mind a Starfox reference in the background or cameo since Rare often did that but forcing an original IP that already had it's own world and lore with MAGIC mind you...into Starfox just because Krystal is a fox is just lameI know Nintendo wanted ownership of the game since Rare was leaving soon but it's still sucks with how big and ambitious it was and being the very last Rare game on Nintendo console>but Banjo-Pilo and Diddy Kong Racing DSyou know what I mean
>>570023406True, level design for sonic is difficult but when you've had YEAAARSSS of experience doing it.... it's hard to forgive them
>>570020913>Milf KrystalSay less.
Wake up Japanfans! The west is winning again!
>>570023810Anal with Korone
>>570023810What makes you say that?
https://theyseeyourphotos.com/
Mania niggers lost
Trip, Mighty and Ray
>>570021782>Kirby and the Forgotten Land outsold Sonic Frontiers with over 8M copies and Kirby games never go on saleKirby sells off of being Kirby. Not off of being particularly amazing.
>>570022750>momentumslopfuck no>>570022979Tedious and pedantic post.
>>570022831Capcom can do that because they still use an engine from 2017 (giving them plenty of experienced users) and experiment within a foundation of a set formula. Sonic Team could never do both for a long period of time unless they were held at gun point
>>570023719>but when you've had YEAAARSSS of experience doing itArguably they've never succeeded and they gave up in 2008
>>570024001>high emotional stability>moderate self-controllooooooool>interests: Insider trading, tax evasionLOOOOOOOL
>>570024126That's a strange way to say accurate and well thought out. At least you understand the classics aren't Utopia momentumslop though.
>characters are just shapesI... I can draw everything...
>>570024074And why does Kirby sell you disingenuous nigger
>>570023230Because spectacle camera pan like the adventure games bad! Why? Because...Because it is okay?!?!
>>570024057Mighty and Ray all over Trip's HUGE wiener
>>570024207They're still using Hedgehog Engine 2 from 2016.
>>570024214>Arguably they've never succeededThey are not consistent with it. Unironically I think the level design in 06 is great but is fucked over by how the game handles movement and the rest of the game itself
>>570024384Mighty and Ray are gay but they’re not that gay
>>570022979All correct but "classic purists" won't accept this because they are married to their fanfic, not the actual games.
>>570024347Do it then you faggot
>>570023480Do you think they're proud of their son?
I'm not going to get into a pedantic argument over what pinball means.
>>570024364Brand recognition you goyslop eating troglodyte.I played Forgotten World. Its fine at best even for kirby standards.
>>570023810Funni gifPost moar
>>570024631No, i'm too sensible to criticism for now and i could become another attention whore.
>>570008516i feel like he is too old and a bit too sharp in his design to pull it off universally. it'd look a bit gay unlike say, tails
Oshima won.
>>570024001I almost want to upload a real photo of myself to see what it says but I haven't posted any pictures online in a decade and I won't give techno-Satan an inch now.
>>570024850>Brand recognition you goyslop eating troglodyte.Recognized for what?
>>570024001You can fool the ai if your image looks human enoughSingle male, approximately 45 years old, professional statusRaceCaucasianIncome Range$85,000 - $110,000 USDReligionSecularSexual OrientationHeterosexualEmotionsPerformative joy, underlying tension, manic intensity
I'm a classicfag and I've always thought Sonic's gameplay in Adventure was a pretty good attempt at trying to translate it into 3D. You guys sure do like to fight
>>570025060Being a Nintendo first party title. Who are associated with child friendly safeness and quality.
>OoT remake is realHold me anons. I'm not going to take this well.
>>570024347How’d you figure that out, brainiac?
>>570025082>I'm a classicfag and I've always thought Sonic's gameplay in Adventure was a pretty good attempt at trying to translate it into 3D.You aren't actually good at the Classic games then
>>570025082I agree with you, but come from the opposite perspective. I liked Sonic's gameplay Adventure first and then I liked the classics because they felt like a 2D version of it.
Liking classic games is westnigger behavior
>>570025156>quality.At least you finally admit it
>>570005264Boyfriends practicing
>>570025230Your childhood WILL get raped and people WILL pay for it.
>jeff fowler is the intellectual elite
Is the bad blood between Sonic Team and Nintendo still so bad that they couldn't show off Frontiers DE this morning?
>>570025082The autism about Sonic's gameplay not being properly translated into 3D is relatively recent and formed because of RomHackers making fangames creating a mythology around it.It was retroactively used as a way to validate existing ire with the series after it went 3D rather than a natural response to it Mario 64 is a Krok reskin and fans treat it as the definitive 3D Mario experience and translation to 3D, to the point they complain about great games like 3DLand and World for being too much like 2D Mario.They never figured out how to make Shellkicking work in 3D Mario like it does in 2D despite how central it is to the gameplay in 2D either.There is like 2 Koopas in the game.
>>570025603Frontiers already was that.
>>570025517>one panel his eyelids are dark>the next his eyelids aren't+ OOC
I think every Nintendo franchise has an organic fanbase that it has built up over decades of consistent quality and mechanics that iterate and innovate without ever straying too far from the original formula (although certain franchises have become more experimental in recent years)The unpopular Nintendo franchises are unpopular because they *don't* do this.
>>570024387It wasn't made with open world in mind
>>570025603Isn't that what he originally wanted Adventure to be? He really has been holding onto that for a long fucking time. Godspeed, I guess.
>>570025517This could have been a 10/10 if they didn't draw him with half lids
>>570025707it do be like that sometimes+ IC + CNC
>>570025238Do I have to be a speedrunner or something to have an opinion? I've played them all quite a bit over the years
>>570024001>Income Range: $5,000,000 - $10,000,000 USDBeing a rapist officially makes you a millionaire, start raping mobian women today!
>>570004608Wind & Waves is coming.
>>570025682>Mario 64 is a Krok reskin and fans treat it as the definitive 3D Mario experience and translation to 3D, to the point they complain about great games like 3DLand and World for being too much like 2D Mario.64 has a fantastic soundtrack and memorable stages, but the gameplay has not aged as gracefully as people like to pretend. The camera was always a problem and that hasn't magically changed as it got older, nor has anything else about it. Credit where credit's due, but 64 dickriders were always delusional.
>>570025682I too find it crazy how people say Mario's games are better than Sonic because they're more consistently the same when 2D Mario and 3D Mario are completely different types of games, while all Sonic games before Frontiers are proper point A to B like both SMB1 and Sonic 1
>>570025403Association with quality =/= qualityPokemon Scarlet was a buggy mess on release and people still made excuses for it and bought it in record numbers despite the previous game being ass as well.Nintendo is carried by a perception og f the brand rather than any real quality with their games.
>>570025236Anon posted a tails made of primitive shapes to understand construction, and i understood loomis was always right.
>>570025682For what it's worth I understand this and like Mario 3D Land more than any other 3D Mario not because its faithful but because the formula is so good but you still bitched at me >>570022979
Tomb Raider mogged Mario 64 and SA1
>>570025753You think something that you can realize is completely wrong the moment you glance at reality?
>>570026082>lone manKen got a wife and kids tho. he was building a small mobian hut for his grand kids
>>570026004That I will give them credit. Sonic Team tried to actually translate Sonic from 2D to 3D
>>570026107Maybe the polygon had something to do with it?
>>570026069>despite the previous game being ass as well.There was genuinely nothing wrong with Sword/Shield except for the dex cut and some bad pop-in in the wild area. People also cite linearity but that wasn't exclusive to that gen. My only gripe with it is that they made it all the way until right before the final battle to engage their 12-year-old-has-to-save-the-world autism.
>>570026210Ken genuinely won more than any other Sonic creative. He honestly doesn’t seem like that bad of a guy, awful art taste aside
>>570004901Same. Shame it died. Covid didn't help, thanks Rouge.
Shadow isn't a bad boy. Just because he's black and red, doesn't mean he's some rebel with no appreciation of the rules and values his individuality above all. He's not Edward Cullen. He's Batman but sadder. He's Spawn but less edgier and just as sad.https://youtu.be/ACzLG-31XLg
>>570026069This, Nintendo just know how to market themselves well more than anything else.>>570026289>There was genuinely nothing wrong with Sword/ShieldYou do you, but personally I already found those games boring, uninteresting, bland, and poorly made for years before Sword and Shield came out. Seeing Sword and Shield is what made me stop paying attention to the series, so I wasn't surprised when Scarlet and Violet appealed to me even less.
>>570026069Nah the Pokemon formula is just that good and its iconography is just that strong.Trainers, gyms, Pokeballs, Pokemarts, legendaries, rivals, teams, the elite four. It's unbeatable.
Pokemon!
>>570026210And Ian's been married for years and still is childless. I think I heard that him and his wife don't even fuck.
>>570025992>64 has a fantastic soundtrack and memorable stages,I find it forgettable in both regards especially compared to Mario 3.I remember it more from its ost being used in video essays and flash games online.But thats just me. I was disappointed by 64 for being nothing like Mario 3.I also didnt like SMW on SNES either.>>570026004Because Mario is just a brand sticker Nintendo slaps on games. He isnt associated really with any real consistent gameplay experience. The most liked Mario games are MarioKart not the 3D or 2D ones.Sonic fans are more autistic about Sonic gameplay by comparison, and normies just accept that if fans are autistic about it, then it must be a problem.
Cope video essays decide the fate of your series
>>570026618that cat looks high off of its ass
>>570026370Yeah I never really got behind the Penders hatewagon. I think that shit was just astroturfed by salty Archiefags.
>>570026107Not with those tank controls. Get outta here.
>>570026525I think it's fine if you fell off the series, I did, too. I just think that Sword/Shield was exactly what I expected it to be when I played it so I was happy to put time in. Scarlet/Violet was actual dogshit and I couldn't play more than about 10 hours. Patches didn't help it. Apparently Z-A is also dogshit, so I just have no interest in going back. Sword/Shield and Arceus are probably my last two games ever for that series.
>>570026848Filtered
>>570025082Windy Valley beta shows what kind of level design they really wanted to make for Sonic Adventure with multi paths, ramps and half pipes but due to the technical limitations of the Dreamcast console they had pull back their ideasBut then they never tried to open up the level when the consoles ACTUALLY was advanced enough to create the big 3D Sonic levels they really wanted to make back then
Ian:>childless cuckKen:Air Force chad
>>570025992My opinion of Mario 64 is the complete opposite of what you said. The soundtrack and stages are extremely bland, the gameplay is what makes it a great experience, and the camera works decently fine>>570026668Be real, normalfags don't think about this at all
>>570026525>This, Nintendo just know how to market themselves well more than anything else.Exactly. They are the Disney of gaming. They make polished games moreso than great ones, hold important IPs that are credited with popularizing and standardizing a lot of the conventions of the industry at a critical point in its development.But their success is largely down to marketing and brand control.Mario doesn't have the TFS effect on its IPs like Sonic does with its own fan content because Nintendo actively makes sure it doesnt happen.>>570026549>Nah the Pokemon formula is just that good and its iconography is just that strong.Play a real RPG anon.
Mega Man 11 (2018) sold 2.2 million copies because people want to play Mega Man because the formula is just that good.I eat pizza every week because I love cheese on tomato sauce on bread.
>>570026618Remember going to see the first movie as a kid. Was a damn good time in spite of the asshole teenagers talking the piss anytime something emotional happened. Loved Pikachu's Vacation as well. Sonic.
>>570026668That's interesting because I think most Mario fans have trouble picking between 3 and World for best of the 2D games or even best of the whole series, and I'm also among that group. I don't usually hear about anyone that likes one and doesn't like the other.>I find it forgettable in both regards especially compared to Mario 3.>>570027031>My opinion of Mario 64 is the complete opposite of what you said. The soundtrack and stages are extremely blandIt's really weird to hear this because you can walk up to just about anyone and say "Bob-omb Battlefield" and they can vividly imagine the stage and the music. If they've actually played the game all the way through, you can usually achieve the same effect by saying "Rainbow Ride." Even if everyone hates to play Rainbow Ride because it's the greatest example of the gameplay just not fucking working all the time.
>>570027031>Be real, normalfags don't think about this at allThey don't. But they see we shit up about it and they just accept that the series and games are le bad because we basically tell them it is.
>>570027063>the TFS effectWhat is that?
>>570026731IC
>>570026618PUT IT BACK OOOONNNNMEEEEEEEEEEEOW
>>570026684>Cope video essays decide the fate of your seriesNah. Sales do. You nerds really need to stop taking critics seriously. Money's what makes the world go round. Realizing that is part of growing up.
It’s Dragover
Why people love RE4 despite on shitting classic gameplay?
>>570027231That's not because they're interesting, it's because it's a famous video game everyone has seen. The same also applies to, and even more so to, 1-1 in SMB1. There is nothing interesting or memorable about it, but everyone knows it because if you have even a vague interest in video games you've seen it a million times.
>>570026953The idea that it was technical limitations is a myth.People have restored it and had it run on OG hardware. They actively removed it and replaced it likely because it didnt test well with test players and the one they replaced it with did.But larperClassicucks won't accept this since it doesnt fit the narrative
>>570027329TrashChad draws better boykino anyway
>>570027031Mario 64 can be modded to hell and back into a variety of better experiences that are satisfying to play today and tomorrow. It's timeless.
>>570027307They change reception of games forever
>>570027234TeamFourStar the makers of DragonBall Abridged. Online Parody of DBZ that resulted on a bunch of people misremembering the actual source material and causing damage to the brand. Stuff like that is why IP holders shut down fan works.
>>570027232I see what you mean, yeah that makes sense unfortunately. I think some people have trouble understanding that we can have our own ideas and disagreements without an established consensus to value above our own opinions. It happens in the fanbase as well at times, usually reviewshitters.
>>570025603But does he mean a turn based gameOr going back to he story of dark brotherhood Or giving Sonic more plot relevant games?Link to the article please?
>>570027408>it didnt test well with test players and the one they replaced it with did.The one we got was more fun to be honest. That's what the goal is at the end of day. FUN.
>>570027279
You could make a Sonic RPG if you made it like a Tales game.
>>570027502We're talking about the original base Mario 64 game. I've played Mario 64 mods and I love them, many mods or individual levels are much better than anything that what is in the base games>>570027595I see, interesting
>>570023717Judyfag?
Answer>>570027390
>>570027116>I eat pizza every week because I love cheese on tomato sauce on bread.basedbasedbased
>>570027231I remember Bombomb Battlefield as a stage but not the music.I remember Slider Theme, Main theme, Bowser's theme, Peach's Castle and DireDireDocks.And again, most of these is from hearing them in videos and flash games and animations.Or remixes from Smash Bros.
>>570027650If you think tons of automation and narrow hallways in the final is way more fun then good for you
>>570027709I'd prefer Kingdom Hearts style. Specifically something like this.https://youtu.be/01FecdxV5Y0
(You) will pay 6̶0̶$̶ 7̶0̶$̶ 80$ for the next interactive cinematographic experience to inflate in value the multibillion dollar corporation and make fiona rich (she's the biggest shareholder).
>>570027873
>>570027614If its like SA1s original vision, he means a Zelda like game.
>>570028194Fiona created Mixtape. Fuck you, Fiona.
>>570027709If I were to make one, it'd have the gameplay of TTYD or the M&L series
>>570028016>narrow hallwaysLiterally every other game was that. People were used to it back then.>tons of automationTo show off the environment like a rollercoaster. It's a rule of cool thing and the devs saying>look at this cool thing I made!
Cumming on Fiona until people think she's albino.
The DLC cyberspace stages are very fun. Lots of different routes. I don't know why I read they were mad before. It is funny how broken the spindash is. Makes you go to the other side of the stage and the camera can't properly follow you through
>>570028194Yes Fiona very funny.....HOWEVER!
>>570028427she looking at human men
>>570028346*cancels archie and promotes IDW*>nothing personal, it's just business
>>570028261>he means a Zelda like gameWhich Zelda?
>>570027502>It's timeless.That's not Mario 64 though, that's Mario 64 with extra bells and whistles.I love Mario 64 mechanically but it absolutely has its janky bits and saying they don't count because modders have fixed them decades later is weird
>>570028261But isn't that what Frontiers is supposed to be?
>>570028406I agree. I also like the tower climbs as well
>>570028016In the 1990s when 3D was new, I would imagine it was seen as more fin by general playtesters and general audience.Most of the praise Beta Windy gets isnt even for its substance. Its just for being a more literal translation of 2D Sonic level geometry in of itself.The final version we for creates a concrete experience and tells a story as you make your way through the level.Most of the shallowless of it ia down to SA1s game design in general for Wonic's gameplay rather than WindyValley itself.SA1s levels lack interactability or things to engage with.Its why rail grinding and boxes were introduced in SA2, along with the scoring system
>>570027556>They change reception of games foreverWe've had movies and games that reviewed poorly and still make bank. It doesn't matter. If people enjoy it, that's what matters the most. Who cares what some pretentious poindexter thinks? They're weird and out of touch with the masses.
>>570028406i like the art style she has for the sonic charas but i don't like shadilver, especially with the obvious uwuver bottom femboy characterization she will likely use.
Give up your hopes, this franchise is doomed.
>>570028506>Sonic abandons Fiona>Fiona takes over SEGA
>>570025771>Isn't that what he originally wanted Adventure to be?Yes.
>>570028648>tells a story as you make your way through the level.Fans forget how meaningful this is to casuals.
>>570028707You only notice now?
>>570028648Boxes?>>570028867I'm a Sonic fan and it's important to me. I like how some Sonic stages tell a story with their world design and cinematics. I've never seen casuals care.
I want to fuck anthro foxes.
If Zelda is getting a remake for its first 3D game, does that mean Sonic Adventure will get one too? The blue bastard always seems to follow Zelda's direction.
Blaze and Elise are both Zeldas.
>>570029054Anthro foxes you say?
>>570029073That depends if it sells well or not. That being said, they are probably remaking Sonic CD for the next year after the movie is released [Spoiler]And they will remake Sonic 06 when the next movie comes out[/spoiler]
>>570028406>I don't know why I read they were mad before.Because they're all remix stages of base game cyberspace stages and the remixed versions feel kind of lost in their conceptualization.
>>570029054no warm vixen pussy for you
>>570028828god she is so sexy
>>570029073>Zelda is getting a remake for its first 3D gameFor the second time. They already did it once in 2011>does that mean Sonic Adventure will get one too?Probably not, or if it does it wouldn't be because of Nintendo doing something completely unrelated. Or they would have remade SA1 on the 3DS in the early 2010s.
>>570029045>I've never seen casuals careThey do. It's why the older stuff still gets played a bunch.
>>570028898this one is a different artist. the one i said only draws in that lineless art style. regardless the one i said definitely likes shadilver too.
Fiona smells, she as never taken a proper bath
Tom & Jerry
>>570029627wouldwould the normal designs too
>>570029583no she DOES NOT
>>570029248>>570029298IT'S NOT FAIR
>>570025038>independent with libertarian leaningkekOshima actually favors Komeito, even if he doesn't show it.
>>570029296Well I don't remember the normal cyberspace stages having many alternative routes so I like these ones much more>>570029485What I meant is it's not the first time an artist draws them this way.
>>570029627Even in Sonic form Jerry looks like a gay femboy
>>570027682That’s better
>>570028538Let me you think Doom is not timeless too?
>>570029689i would fuck jerry's twink ass
I don't care. Nobody cares. /sthg/ is not your vent channel Discord shit.
>>570029950What’s wrong with your brain?
Shut up tard-dow, go cry about Maria or something
>>570029885the way that characterization is not new is why liking shadilver is disappointing for an artist i follow. its just slightly a shame cuz i liked that soft lineless style. oh well its whatever.
>>570029885You are correct, the level design is basically fully original. That anon's complaint is that the way in which the level design is constructed is cheap, as it's built by placing game objects on reused geometry from the base game. But it's not that noticeable as most of those levels are basically made entirely of objects.
>>570030184Neither is yours to shill zoophilia
>>570025640Could be. If I remember correctly, Nintendo temporarily prevented you from being able to buy Crossworlds on the Nintendo Switch just because of that 90s-style commercial Sega made about Sega being better than Nintendo. Nintendo is such a scummy company
>>570028506Fiona made Ken Penders sue Archie to preserve her IP from AI slop. Archie will forever remain untarnished while Sonic will go on to be AI babyslop that appeals to nobody with critical thinking skills
Silver was never good
>>570030605I don't like Nintendo either, but I never heard of that and I was following the situation closely.
>>570029286They won't do Adventure before Heroes and 06. On the other hand if it were me I would make Adventure like the Avengers with SSS vs Perfect Chaos.
The ultimate twink mouse.
Classicfags and japfags hate Mania
>>570029220>Blaze is a ZeldaHmmm...
Mice and rats got me acting unwise.
>>570030620>appeals to nobody with critical thinking skillshttps://youtu.be/_CIYR_XgBSY
>>570029950based
When are we getting species affirmation genetic engineering? I want to be a fox mobian. It’s who I am on the inside
>>570030162I think we just have different definitions of what timeless means. In the sense that they both aren't perfect games and have flaws that were patched up in sequels, I wouldn't say either is timeless. But if you mean it in the sense of "you can go back up and pick them up and the mechanics are still so fun today that they're worth playing", then yes, they're both timeless.
>>570030886Something wrong must’ve happened in your development years to think this way about Tom and Jerry of all things.
>>570025603How long until Iizuka retires? The fact that he said this and he's 56 now makes me think that it's not that far away
>>570025603who's going to replace him?
>>570031073You're making some dangerous assumptions.
>>570030193Have you seen T&J cartoons? Especially if Chuck Jones was directing
>>570030976Archifag melty
>>570030846Literally it becomes so obvious the more you think about it. Like Rush Adventure being a Wind Waker ripoff.
>>570030620>Fiona made Ken PendersThis is true. She birthed him.
>>570031073Look at this pearl clutching faggot.
>>570031156Shun Nakamura
>>570031296Dude, you're not in a position to be lording over others. Know your place.>>570031470NTA but you're weird.
>>570030702I am still baffled learning about this game existence
>>570031528We know we're weird. Now go away.
If they wanted to ripoff BotW, why couldn't they ripoff the art style. Why does everything need to look like UE5 asset flips with the same shitty Sonic models we've had for 3 whole console generations?
>>570031528Where do you think you are?
>>570031679Because Sonic Team are incompetent, lazy and have no budget.
>>570031715Sonic The Hedgehog General. Not “Tom and Jerry General”
>you will live to see people saying they miss Iizuka as the main director
>>570030625The whole point of his gameplay is that it’s different from Sonic and isn’t based on speed.
>>570031000So you like the idea of a fox mobian inside you?
>>570031073Do you know where you are?
>>570031827Anon, we've been missing Iizuka as the main director since 2006. Iizuka directed many of the best games in the series and was already doing things like level design before. I wish he was still making the games instead of dealing with marketing and other high level positions.
>>570031470Coomers use the words 'Puritan' and 'pearl clutcher' like how alphabet activists use the words 'homophobe' and 'transphobe'.
>>570031062What's your timeless game?
/sthg/ - Spike Tom Hedgehog Gerry
Sonic only looks cool when he's more taller and lankier. Maybe that broad shoulder and chest look that a lot of fanart gives him. Him leaning too much into Mickey Mouse territory makes him look lame and kiddy to the target demo. You don't want 12 year olds to feel like faggots for playing Sonic.
Hopefaggots hate Shadow
>>570028537OoT
>>570031249What do you mean?
>>570031819Right, we're even weirder. Now either get over it or leave
>>570032110That's why the 06 models were so cool
>>570032021>cooms to your postYour response?
>>57003107395% of people here want to have sex with characters based on Felix the Cat and you’re surprised people would be into Tom and Jerry? Jerry has a huge ass btw, it became a meme when that movie came out a few years ago.
>>570028594No. Frontiers is "what if the world map in Mario 3 was playable" with the cyberspace stages being the levels, which is why they are numbered the way they are.
>>570032059Cliche answer but Tetris
>>570032142Nothing more than what I said.
>>570032110Why are you using a fanmade render done by a tranny
>>570031848Then it's not Sonic. How many times do you lot need to be reminded that the alternate playstyles were shat on by casuals? People want fast and exciting when they play Sonic. A popcorn flick as a game. A rollercoaster.
>>570032063Hate those fucking guys! Except Gerry, he's a geezer.
So Sonic Adventure was supoosed to be more like Dark Souls like an action adventure RPG?
>>570032110Real shitI hate shorter quills Sonic with a passionGimme that long boi
>>570032342You’re anonymous, just say it.
>>570032354>but casuals :(I don't care
>>570032346ChaosX trooned out?
What is the Dark Souls of Sonic games?
>>570032221Nice strawman
>>570032063
>>570030625Amy didn’t debut with any of that stuff in gameplay, Silver got everything but the Light Speed Dash in Rivals and every runner game after that.
>>570029045The wooden, steel and cage containers and stuff in SA2. Despite that game introducing them, I never see the fact they were added discussed in SA2 essays or discussions but they change the eay you interact with thr fame world a lot.Mario had Blocks for this reason in Mario 1. Crash had Crates for this reason added later in development as well.Interacting with them opens up passageways or helps you have platforms to access different areas or hides goodies. SA1 doesn't really have this.The world design in SA1 is very naked for Sonic specifically.
>>570032469I already said it, and I would say it even if I weren't anonymous. What did you fail to understand? My post was very straightforward.
>>570032580Ngl, would both the white cat and mouse tom and Jerry fall for.Especially that cowgirl cat. Lord have mercy.
>>570032182It is a genuine shame that 06 was so badly broken that it almost killed the series. Imagine what we could have had if they had kept iterating on its designs and storytelling. We'd have never stopped getting Adventure-style games and probably wouldn't be dealing with the Marza models.
does SEGA even know who Sonic is anymore
>>570032614Goodbye, anon.
>>570032659That's very interesting. I'll try to think about that more.Speaking of objects that were introduced and became mainstays, how do you feel about the dash rings?
>>570032614Imagine...
>>570032614I have mixed feelings about this.
>>570032672Either you got raped as a child, you want to rape a child, you want to rape a dog, or all of the above.
>>570032770Yes, he's their Mickey Mouse-esque company mascot!
Good day /sthg/
>>570032974I stand by what I said.
>>570031753Sonic Team got a bigger budget and more staff after Frontiers was a success in the market. They've got no excuse for the next mainline game being bad>>570031993Iizuka is not fit the head of Sonic Team. He has no long-term vision
>>570032659I completely agree. It's so cool that the first stage, City Escape, gives you Magic Hands, but only after you (basically) complete the game with the Fire Bracelet and the Bounce Bracelet.I remember going through the stages and looking for upgrades as a kid once I realized there was one upgrade per level and that characters had equivalent upgrades to their counterparts. Getting Magic Hands felt like a cheat code.
>>570033083>They've got no excuse for the next mainline game being badUnfortunately, point 1 and 2 still exist, regardless.
>>570032614What did japan mean by this?sayonara anon>>570032769This is a cope told by Adventure fans. Unleashed was already under development with the Mach Speed sections as the template. You can even see it was the way forward with Secret Rings and Black Knight using similar wonky camera angles as the next gen trailer
>>570032614KEK removed
>>570032518You need casuals to make money. To be SUCCESSFUL. Turning away from them is a good way to flop. Use the brain.
>>570033070Boy, that is such a sexy rifle.
What was it? I missed it
>>570033286you just had to be there
>>570033083>They've got no excuse for the next mainline game being badIf I had a dollar for everytime I saw that exact sentence made in this fandom, I'd be a millionaire.
>>570033286https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/570002941/#570032614
>>570032449I think Iizuka wanted more roleplaying and Naka wanted more platforming.
>>570033208>Unleashed was already under development with the Mach Speed sections as the template.Proof?>>570033240I don't care. I don't work for SEGA and I don't invest in them. I want to play video games that appeal to me. It's not my job to make SEGA money. I already like the series, and I want to buy more games from them. This is their opportunity to get money from me. Other costumers are not and shouldn't be my concern.
>>570032449>So Sonic Adventure was supoosed to be more like Dark Souls like an action adventure RPG?No, like Ocarina.
>>570033446>>570033469This is some important post!
>>570033083>They've got no excuse for the next mainline game being badEvery Sonic fan has said this at least once in their life
>>570033208It can be both. Sega shied away from everything that 06 was for a LONG time so that they didn't risk repeating the same mistake. There's no guarantee they wouldn't have made another Adventure-style game is 06 was positively received.
>>570032354>alternate playstyles were shat on by casualsOne of the Sonic cycles is Sonic Team making a gimmick, people hating it for not being refined and then abandoning it before they improve it. They’ve been doing this for over 23 years and still haven’t learned that polish is what they’re missing.
>>570033057Surge pov?
>>570032583>Rivals90% of Silver's fans don't even know what a PSP is
>>570033585>Sonic cyclesNot a thing.
>>570033083>They've got no excuse for the next mainline game being bad
>>570032769>Imagine what we could have had if they had kept iterating on its designs and storytelling. We'd have never stopped getting Adventure-style games and probably wouldn't be dealing with the Marza models.I've made that point in the past as well. If Sonic 06 had been successful, there would've been no meta era down would've been spared an entire decade of bad games
>>570033515>I want to play video games that appeal to me.You won't get any if they don't sell. Get the picture? Basic supply and demand. If no one buys the thing, then more WON'T be made. Again, use the brain. You, the one guy, aren't enough to not only recoup costs but make a healthy profit. More people need to buy the thing to make more of it.
>>570033446>>570033469
do you think Sonic could run faster if he was barefeet?
>>570033618wrong, my pov ;-)
>>570033682I still have a PSP but the battery swelled up and now I can't turn the console on until I get a new battery
>>570033942Quit being weird
>>570033942looked like Sonic was sucking his own dick the whole time!
>>570033995this happened to my penis
>>570033942Nope.
Roger makes Sonic sound lame and kiddy. The personality they gave him sucks. Not cool at all.
>>570032354>Then it's not SonicYes. The point is to be different from Sonic. That was a way of getting casuals by giving them variety and a playstyle for people that don’t want to go fast.
>>570034190Sonic was never cool
>>570034004there are people who say running barefoot makes you run faster, look it up
I was once Chinese
>>570033834It's not my job to market the game to people who might like it. That's SEGA's job. If they fail to do that, it has nothing to do with me. And it definitely shouldn't turn into me asking them to make the game less appealing to me in the hope of selling it to people I don't care about and who don't care about the series in the first place. I will ask for the game I want, letting them know that yes, there is an audience. I'm right here.
>>570034081>It doesn't feel like having your dick sucked>It feels like you're sucking a dick
>>570032116Uh oh
>>570033176The Shadow Generations development team did a good job. Iizuka just needs to hire them to work on the games. Since he's the producer, he has the power to do that
>>570034293>The point is to be different from SonicNobody wants that.>That was a way of getting casuals by giving them varietyExplore hubworlds then. Implement puzzles and missions.>and a playstyle for people that don’t want to go fast.Who doesn't want to go fast?
>>570033682By your logic Snapcube fandubs matter more than 99% of Sonic games.
>>570034526The "Shadow Generations development team" is Sonic Team and they're already working with Iizuka.
New Classic Sonic model just dropped and it looks even worse than before
>>570034339Taiwan...
>>570034367>there is an audience. I'm right here.And it flops and they look stupid for appealing to you. Then you get nothing afterwards. The money from 1 guy is worthless compared to money from 1 million.
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/mO8pKHJcoAc
>>570034790Sonic rumble?
>>570032904I don't love them but I dont think they are inherently bad. They are kind of necesary for 3D. But I do dislike them more than dash pads which I feel het hate on way too unfairly.A lot of the time they are used to guide the player through the level or help crete tempo in level sequences.With Tails' gameplay i mostly found them uninteresting.Rainbow dash rings were good in Heroes since the different formations needed to be lined up to hit them all properly for bonus score and jumping at the righ time. Like a lot of things introduced early on, later games just dumbed them down too much out of fear of new players bouncing off the games.>>570033086That's a perfect example. There would also be rare animals in cages you need to hit a rocket to break open or do to it to get access to switches for level gimmicks.SA1 has the issue of when i play it it feels like I'm just dashing through a diorama.
>>570034790Source? This looks fucking vile.
>>570034790Looks like Playhouse Disney
>>570033252The P90 is not a rifle
>>570034689The game was good though. Good voice acting, good graphics, good animation, and good gameplay. Morio Kishimoto didn't direct Shadow Generations
>>570035114Unpopular opinion but Kishimoto and Nakamura are the reasons that Sonic games suck.
>>570034810It's their job to figure out how to get their fans and potential fans to buy a game. I don't want SEGA to make money indiscriminately, I am interested in SEGA because they've made games I enjoy and I want more. I think a snapscube fandub Sonic game might have the potential to sell much better than anything I actually want if they market it to that audience, but I'm not going to ask them to do that because that's not what I want and making SEGA money is not my interest.
>>570034446Keep Hope away from Shadow
>>570034558>Nobody wants that.Plenty of people want that. You seem forget that Sonic isn’t the only popular video game.>Who doesn't want to go fast?Motion sick Japanese people and anyone more into combat or puzzle focused gameplay.It doesn’t matter since if Silver had another go at individual gameplay he would in all likelihood just play like Frontiers but with telekinesis.
>>570034293If casuals don’t want to go fast, they play something else. They don't want a shitty mockery of a completely different genre interrupting the sonic gameplay.
>>570035302Hardly unpopular
Darn, we're not gonna make it! Let's speed up!
>>570035302Nakamura produced Shadow Generations along with Iizuka. It was Katsuyuki Shigihara and Yuka Kobayashi who directed the game
>>570034568Yes. More people know who alfred is than mike pollock
>>570035661>Katsuyuki Shigihara and Yuka KobayashiWhoever they are, they need to stay as directors
>>570035406>Motion sick Japanese people and anyone more into combat or puzzle focused gameplay.SEGA should have the good sense to tell them to fuck off instead of sabotaging Sonic games in an attempt to get their money
>>570033208>This is a cope told by Adventure fans. Unleashed was already under development with the Mach Speed sections as the template. You can even see it was the way forward with Secret Rings and Black Knight using similar wonky camera angles as the next gen trailerThis is true. In fact you can see it as early as Sonic Heroes special stages bring thw true origin of Boost. Rush gets credited for it unjustly.
Shadow Generations is just another uninteresting boost game that only looks flashy on the surface. Sonic Frontiers doesn't look as impressive on the surface, but it put more and better thought into the gameplay.
>>570035908They're really good directors and I wish they would work on more mainline games
>>570034568Thats part of why I hate them. They do matter and thats a bad thing.
>>570036039Frontiers game design is discordant bullshit.
>>570035425I’m sorry having different things is offensive to you.
>>570035661>>570035908>>570036063>Katsuyuki ShigiharaLevel designer for Sonic Colors (Wii)>Yuka KobayashiLevel designer for Sonic Unleashed (Wii) and game designer for Sonic Colors (DS)
Does Sonic get to the Cloud District very often?
>>570034790What is this cocomelon bullshit. My boi lost all his sauce.
>>570036212One thing done well is more valuable than 20 types of garbage
Video essays wonYou lost
>>570035661>>570035908>>570036063Shadow Generations isn't any different from Colors/Generations/Forces. It's just another boost game.
>>570036219>Level designer for Sonic Colors (Wii)>Level designer for Sonic Unleashed (Wii)>both now directorswhere the fuck were they this whole time?
Hope lost. Maria won
>>570036569The Olympic Mario crossover games. I've been saying this but people always tell me it was a different team and wasn't eating up Sonic Team's resources at all. No, it was, and Shadow Generations is the first game made by them in forever now that they finally don't have that stupid license anymore.
>>570036569Olympic games jail.
>>570035336>I think a snapscube fandub Sonic game might have the potential to sell much better than anything I actually want if they market it to that audienceHave you lived under a rock in the last 15 years? We've had plenty of stuff aimed at that particular audience and it NEVER sells well.
>>570036770Them sega bitches knew where the money was
>>570036770>>570036796So they put their best guys on the games that made the most money. Makes sense.
>>570035728That’s retarded. I don’t even know how to explain to you how stupid this thought process is. All I can say is that raw numbers don’t determine continuity or stop things from mattering. Otherwise no franchise would have side media.
why hope versus maria
>>570036979I think that was a difference audience than >>570035728 this one. It was a different time, too.
>>570002941Bush administration Sonic model
>>570036770I cannot believe there were people saddened by the loss of that series. Nothing but a drain on resources. However, it would be really fucking funny if they had made one more Olympic game crossover and released it this year as the big Mario 40th and Sonic 35th anniversary title.
>>570035728i'm sorry, who tf is alfred?
>>570037280Hope was alive and antis wanted Shadow to move on
I just want to marry Kit and be his wife, but kitfags are turning out more deranged than tailsfags. We're getting a horrible reputation
>>570037332Nah, they're both Twitter freaks. Appealing to them doesn't invite success. Especially since they turn to turn on you if your beliefs and opinions aren't 1:1 to their's.
>>570036039Kinda agree. But I also dont have faith in Frontiers' formula as a foundation for the next 20 years. People will already be tired of it after the next game if they aren't already.Shit gets old quickly imo.
>>570026659I'm kinda convinced Ian is an unironic cuck.
>>570036560Shadow Generations still has good graphics and animations. Fans have highly requested the Adventure formula and the next mainline game needs to have it
>Sega is going to make a world where Sonic's 3D model lasts forever
>>570037613I just want Sonic running around in a big city. We've had Spider-Man swinging around in one since the PS2. What's taking Sonic so long?
>>570037426I don't like the Hope/Shadow ship because it's just a cheat code to give Shadow an aged up Maria so that it's not "le problematic" anymore
>>570037618The guy made a SatAM/Teletubbies fanfic as a grown ass man. Make of that if you will.>>570037789>it's just a cheat code to give Shadow an aged up Maria so that it's not "le problematic" anymoreNo? That's not the point at all.
>>570037548>I just want to marry Kit and be his wifeThat's awesome>We're getting a horrible reputationYou care about that? Normalfags already think you should die for wanting to marry Kit
>>570037352>I cannot believe there were people saddened by the loss of that seriesIt was a bunch of mini games with slight storytelling. I never cared to play any of the games, but I can see the appeal
>>570037958It's coward shit like most pairings preferred by Archie fags and you know it. If you want a "new Maria" Amy is right there.
>>570037779When thr Spiderman devs tried making that for the Flash, the project got cancelled because its just hard to do.I dont get why fans cant get that making a game about a guy that goes fast is legit just really hard to do.Its why Flash has no games that arent fighting game appearances.https://youtu.be/-fGs1QcUWsg?si=f6ExF41y3Q5IZGLq
>>570037976>Normalfags already think you should die for wanting to marry KitThey don't even know who he is. Twitter freaks aren't normalfags, dude. They're just as autistic and weird as you.
>>570037779Combine the open zone gameplay of Frontiers with the NPCs and design of the cities and towns of Unleashed and that's how you get a good game
The Sonic fanbase (and many fanbases) have a problem: they’ve turned liking a thing into a team sport. You’re either a loyal defender or a traitor. There’s no room for “I like some of this, dislike some of that, and here’s why.”
>>570038147I'm sorry. I meant normalfags already think you should die for wanting to marry any cartoon character regardless of who it is or why.
>>570037789The Chronicles fangame clip literally shows Hope was imagining Shadow right before Chris broke her focus I don't get how there's a fight over this unless i'm reading into it too much
Krack would hate Mania and fangames if she had the change.
>>570038137Interesting. Any other Flash game trivia like this?
>>570038013Amybesties what the fuck is this
>>570009183Plapping MOBIANS!
>>570038085>It's coward shitPairing Shadow with a human is the total opposite of coward shit. It shows balls.>If you want a "new Maria" Amy is right there.Nice try, Shadamyfag.
>>570034190I miss Jason Griffith
>>570038273Archie fans want top billing on everything so they remove all the subtlety from Shadamy to make it literally about Shadow getting a new Maria. Shadow shouldn't move on from Maria to herself.
>>570036437You can have more than one thing done well but his series hasn’t done much well gameplay wise even with just Sonic for almost two decades.
>>570038226>normalfags already think you should die for wanting to marry any cartoon character regardless of who it is or why.They wouldn't think that either. They'd just think you’re a freak, forget about it and move on with their day. You overestimate how many people actually care.
>The discourse is shipping againWhen will you dweebs get yourselves a real problem?
>>570038273Shipperfags have high insecurity and freak out of their preferred characters are standing next to anyone else. Just look at Gabs whenever Silver is next to anyone who isn't Blaze.
>>570038628They'd avoid you and claim that you should have been aborted.
One day I’ll make a retro styled jrpg based upon Archie with racism, human x mobian, and everythingfagging via alternate dimensions.Jojo fans have 7th stand member but Sonic fans have never stepped up to the plate. Sonic fans are actually less motivated than jojo fans. How?
Wait so is the problem that the fangame had Chris and Hope team up or that Hope was imagining Shadow during the teamup I'm having trouble following along
>>570038407knuckles being thrown a bone
>>570038856>>570038856>>570038856
marine
>>570038151>with the NPCs and design of the cities and towns of UnleashedI dont get what people love about these desu. Is it just nostalgia?
>>570038137Just allow Sonic to run up and down walls and do superpowered parkour shit. Imagine using his momentum to fly over the city and doing air tricks on top of that. Imagine wall jumping all over the city. Imagine riding on top of cars and trains. Imagine interacting with the people and just doing mundane things there.
>>570038942They're fun to interact with
what makes frontiers (and by extension sa1) work as the template for an open enriched world is that you're not going blistering fast
>>570038187Moar.
>>570036560It's literally a single Frontiers island and I'm tired of people acting like it's not.
>>570040028I'm talking about game design and movement, not simply the progression structure.
>>570038913never make threads again if you are gonna use the same pictures
>>570040679Even more so if the picture is dramashitting.
