does this game have some kind of problem with on death mechanics? I died 2x times now to the exact same red explosion on death mechanic. that stupid helltide worm popped out and shat out some monster, they died and with them they exploded killing my character. I dont quite understand how defense/ehp works in this game. my hp doesnt move a single pixel at t12 not even when I intentional try to get hit but then they add these explosions and some weird exponential boss scaling mechanics, for what purpose?

We didn't even reach page 10... But at least we're getting there. Good work OP.

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>It's a war plan with 2 infernal hordes

>>2476332
skipskipskipSKIIP

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Now THAT is what I call a war plan!

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>>2476336
That is after the skips, sis.

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Between Necros and Warlocks, which is more fun to play and which performs better endgame?

>>2476439
Lock shits for trillions of dmg and Necro is in a cuck shed

>come back after a few seasons
>"hmmm lets try the old reliable rogue build"
>buy every trap
>get preparation
>get flurry
>look for legendary affixes
>mfw

uhhh... bros? where did my fucking legendary affixes go? my traps becoming grenades? my my trap cooldowns? my ult? they didnt just nerf this they thanos snapped it out of existence. am i missing something...?

>>2476325
back to /sp/ peruANO

>>2476544
Dude the game is different now, shit got overhauled

>>2476314
-its good to have a source of fortified and/or barrier
-stacking resists is always good
-endurant faith gloves or charm so you survive the one shot and can see what was killing you so you can avoid it in future.
-moving is always good, plenty of shit should be trying to kill you in higher torments, so moving out of the aoes should be necessary.

>>2476686
No, I will inhabit both /sp/. You couldn't get rid of me during beta phase and Scosglen memes and you ain't getting rid of me meow.

guess i'm doing the transfigure spam on 2handed ancestral maces now

lets see if I get one in 400 mats

What's an Infernal Horde and why are people in this thread so afraid of it? I haven't unlocked Warplans yet, I just finished VoH.

>>2476342
kino

>>2476906
timesink endgame activity where you pick boons every 1 minute round. can be 6 or 10 rounds. you get get absolutely fucked by rng and waste 12 minutes of your life. it's also boring gay and retarded

It's impressed how I liked all three mercenaries from Diablo III but I don't like a single one from Diablo IV (Subo is ok I guess but not very interesting.)

>>2476906
its just kind of lame, you'll see

>>2476906
Infernal Horde used to be the way to get XP relatively quick, but now it's become a waste of time where you get better XP elsewhere like Undercity orbs. The warplan tree for Infernal Horde was poorly planned.

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>>2476300
I need to touch on the topic of inventory and its overall management.

Having recently gone back to D3, to play around out of curiosity I got a harsh reminder how better organization for it was in that game. You had small squares that each type of item could take up from 1 (amulets, rings etc.) to 2 (other gear) slots.
That alone helps with keeping stuff organized. As opposed to D4 where for some reason they decided everything is the same giant ass tile size. How the fuck does that make logical sense?
>inb4 muh consoles
D3 was released on consoles and the tiling works well with a controller. Hell, it's probably the main reason why they went from multi slot D1 and D2 to what we had in D3. And if consoles had to be included that made sense. D4 going full retard on the system doesn't however. Even stash is dumbed down to the point where we have limited icons to differentiate the tabs with. Tabs themselves are in smaller number than the amount of loot you might want to keep (code limitations I know, but it shouldn't have been the case to begin with here)

And a sidenote how terrible the runes problem was solved
>Guys! There were runes you didn't really use so we reduced the 'clutter' and now all of them can fit in your tab
Yeah, if only there was yet another tab for the gems since the tiles/slots are still to big for those....

Anyway, thank you for tuning in for my blog, I needed to vent.

>>2476998
t. didn't play diablo 2

Call me Mephistob Lord of Hatred because boy do I fucking hate this season.

Blizzard definitely just glances at the playerbase and sees the same cucks that infest WoW due to all the skins and absolutely not giving a fuck about releasing broken products because cucks will be cucks and just take it up the ass

>>2477049
I'm surprised people think the season that releases with the expansion is anything but good. You played for the story and should have ended there. Whether you were disappointed or not is fair game.

why did they get rid of alchemy?

>>2477247
i think they said that the vast majority of players just used them for XP gain and they just made the monsters give more xp instead

burning the tree of whispers was such horseshit. it was all gucci when Elias was put there but when Lorath goes there suddenly its too far and we need to burn it down

>>2477484
Yes?
Elias was a dick, a traitor and the one who brought Lillith back
Lorath was a good friend who helped prevent/mitigate 2 apocalypses

Easiest greater lair boss for a dogshit rogue to fight blind?

>>2478304
Probably Andariel but whether a boss is easy or hard very much comes down to if you are melee or ranged.

>>2478329
I'm Dance of Knives so ranged unless I switch to grenades.

>>2478329
Nm I pooped on Andy in 5 seconds.

>>2478384
Yeah she's easy, I swear she has Varshan levels of health

why does Lilith have dick sucking lips?

>>2478773
villains can have supermodel bimbo faces and big tits, hags and goblinas for the player though.

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>>2476906
Of all the endgame minigame content modes it is the most lackluster. Fun keys for other content modifies them so that something cool happens, good or bad. Keys for IH makes it take even fucking longer.
Honestly it should play like ARPG Killing Floor than whatever the fuck it is now.

So i heard they added a few secrets, like secret pit bosses and murlok pet. Anyone got any info on that?
also fuck the 666 cows grind

15 lair keys later and I couldn't get a unique with 2 good stats. across 3 uniques in my build. fml

Does anyone else have performance issues with this game despite having solid specs?
I get these framedrops and random hiccups sometimes and if I take too many screenshots then the game becomes unplayable and I have to restart it.

>>2479774
Yeah mate. I was getting crazy crashes last week when I installed. I set the max frame rate to 60

>>2479808
- and that did indeed fix it. Sorry mate, not sure what happened there, I might be getting retarded in my old age.

>>2478773
first thing I thought of when I saw her, tb h

>>2479490
the pit: the first floor when you say "something is following me", look around for a scrap of paper and click on it. do this for lvls 1, 6, 11, 16, etc until 101. then spam pit 101 until choron spawns in as the pit boss and you kill him. not sure if this would work if you have "killing the butcher ends the pit level" tho
murlok pet: get lucky fishing. i 100%ed the fishing collection, including all purple fish, and i have not caught the murlock pet.
cow level: yeah it's a grind, but it's fun to moo at your friends and toss them a stamina potion and it's fun to deny randos a moo when they rudely demand it at world boss

>>2479944
cool, thanks anon. Yeah i saw that something is fllowing me line a few times but had no idea what the hell it was, thought it was some random warlock quirk

I’ve Missed the free paladin trial and I got diablo from the humble bundle, I know that without dlc alot of the content is missing but is the base game good enough to try it out and buy the dlc later if I like it?

>>2477484
Why did the tree just let it happen didn't even put up a fight? I thought it was supposed to be some magical super being? If it could have been destroyed all along by anyone walking by with a lantern how did it survive all this time?

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>>2480187
>erhm, uh, well you see

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are we D3 now?

>>2480187
>If it could have been destroyed all along by anyone walking by with a lantern how did it survive all this time?
Tyrael specifically mentions no normal fire can burn the tree, and he gives you the (buffed) torch to do it.

>>2480256
That's just the excuse they made up at the last second. Makes no damn sense not to have the tree be a boss fight at least.

>>2476998
I think with d4 they want to give you one extra tab for each expansion you buy. I'm not sure they have thought about it much beyond that.
In d2 the stash was intentionally limited, you were not mean to hoard, it was one of the resources to manage. In the xpac it got expanded, people liked to hoard items. In current form in d2r and mods they have lot of tabs and special tabs for runes.
I don't really have a point other than what has happened with these type of games is that there tends to be more stash over time but never enough people always complain.

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>>2480199
shits lame to hit this though
you have to use the frost nova rune and the freezing damage talisman and time it

Man this season is so bad, exploits and bugs left and right. Just facerolling p150 is fucking boring

I have like 60 Uniques and the majority of them are worthless for me. What's my best option to do with them regarding the Cube?

>>2480686
>intentionally uses bugs and exploits
>wow this game so easy!
retard lol

>>2480168
Decent enough if you want to play through 2 campaigns for the story but it won't really be reflective of proper endgame content.

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>>2480893
>cheats game
>wonder why it's easy and boring

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Do I bother rolling it?

Dumb question but how do I do Infernal Hordes?

>>2481144
That's the best part - you don't!

>Butcher spawns in my pit
>Makes zero sound
>Does a frame 1 charge
>Instakills me before I can even react
Great game, Blizzbabs

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almost finished

anon why are you playing this pozzed deislop game

>>2481774
How did you do it.

>>2481961
grinded 6 round hordes with the chaos portal talent nodes

>>2481998
>6 round
FUCK ME.

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anyone need a selig or tyraels
dropped a 4 ga selig so dont need these anymore

rogue bros: glynn's anvil aspect is great for chest slot. get that resolve node in concealment, GA your resolve stack temper and masterwork crit it, and walk around with 88% damage reduction

>>2482031
Yeah me

>>2481528
I figured I'd go through this season on normal before trying hardcore since I normally play hardcore in arpgs but I am not going to do it for D4 because this game is way, way more unfair bullshit than any other arpg I've played, and that's saying something since I've taken every class in D2 through hardcore Hell and there's some real bullshit in D2R that doesn't scratch what D4 pulls.

>>2482069
sent (:

We really need more storage space.

cant do warlock anymore why is every spell the same color

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>War plan levels are not shared between characters

>>2482317
it’s insane how limited the storage space is. that + the obol limit is just astounding to me.

Why is this general so fucking dead? Is this not really a popular game?

>>2482945
i think people just burn out after the first few weeks of season start

>>2482945
some games just dont do well on 4chan as far as generals

lot of popular games dont even have generals, like counterstrike or valorant

>>2482945
First time here?

kek the fanta portal sucks

feels like hordes got "buffed" monster levels seem higher. way to make the worst event in the game even worse blizz

>>2482473
Apoc spamming is pure cancer, can't fucking see shit

>>2483031
wish there was a warlock build that doesn't go into meta and that isn't apoc

>>2483110
There's minion build but it's boring as fuck

did they fix sorc after the accidental nerf? finna make one tomorrow

>>2480549
based

>>2481774
i will never get there. i'll do every other meme activity muh cows muh fish muh portals etc but never get that to 7

got btfo by mephisto in phase 2 (two)

do you guys have any tips? yes i have endurant faith charm. i'm playing dread claws.. should i switch?

>>2482945
It's because
>it's /vm/ not /vg/
>season boom is fading
>it's a blizzard game and blizzard games get shit on by default on 4chan by people trying too hard to fit in
>4chan is full of poe players who also shit on diablo by default
Being on a lower traffic board is for the better

i dont understand why this thread is not /vg/

>>2483231
based autist. we've been over this countless times.

i've never been in this thread until today so i dont know faggot

>>2483234
thread is not fast enough, it would just get bumped into oblivion by the 100 different gachas generals

Am I missing out if I never play the base campaign. Bought the game last week, just playing a seasonal char through the new dlc. Should I bother next season with the base campaign. I’m lvl 60 rn

>>2483388
>Should I bother next season with the base campaign
Do you care about the story you've seen so far? If so, maybe.
I'd wait until next season regardless unless you really want to push the endgame ASAP. My first character did base game + VoH seasonally and the seasonal gimmicks were a fun distraction while going through the campaigns.

>>2483388
i got it from the humble monthly bundle and bought the dlc and played all 3 campaigns, it wasn't very long if u just beelined the main quest
honestly i didn't really care for it, but I wanted to at least do it to see it. but again, i quite literally don't recall a single moment that i thoroughly enjoyed. there are a few cool moments in the pre rendered cinematics but i mean, they have to at least do that to get people to buy it in the first place

am i crazy or the top guys use WASD to walk? im new ofc

>>2482996
>lot of popular games dont even have generals, like counterstrike
This one I really don't get. People love shit talking and there is tons of material with their vast esports. Blows my mind that there is no place to talk about CS on 4chan.

>>2482945
D4 bad

You fucking dumbass thought it was a funny maymay?

How the fuck do I leave the ~100 million damage hell? I got carried through T8 Lilith but I'd like to do it on my own now.

>>2483791
Just pick a meta builid it's not difficult.

>>2483799
I'm sure one can get to at least a billion without having to follow the meta though, right?
Building your character is half the fun, I'd rather not outsource the whole process to someone else.

>>2483815
Blizzard doesn't make those kind of games. This isn't poe where you can workshop your own build. You either follow the meta or face the wall. You can't force shitty skills to not be shitty just because you try really hard.

D3 mercs
>misguided zealot who develops compassion and agency
>quipping scoundrel with a heart of gold
>cute awkward mage sidekick who was went through time to aid you
D4 mercs
>one-armed homosexual Jew
>annoying demon kid
>asshole with dialogue drier than the Sahara
>ugly old hag girlboss cannibal
Where the fuck did we go wrong?

>>2483818
>You either follow the meta or face the wall
>This isn't poe
come the fuck on lmao

>>2483570
Force move i reckon

>>2483570
The top guys don't walk, they just teleport to move.

Why does this game shit on Inarius so much?

>>2484068
Because he was a cuck

>>2484068
They generally thought hating on men is cool while forgetting it wasn't really logical to prop Lilith to be some neutral lawful humanity lover since even during the events of LoH campaign her demons are still roaming the sancutary screaming for "blood for lilith" (or something along the lines)

>>2484081
>penetrated Lilith so hard she was banished from reality
>somehow this makes him the cuckold
???

>>2484068
>what if we subverted expectations and made an angel le heckin' bad while making a demon le fricking good

>>2484085
>>2484094
It's just weird the tonal shift when you find the memory of Inarius, immediately my normally pretty reasonable and stoic character called him a "dunce" and over the course of the scene he was called a retard three more times, called weak over and over, etc. This is a guy who has been chained up in Hell for basically eternity being tortured by the literal villain of the game, IDK it just felt like there was aggressive contempt for this character who is at least a little tragic when you think dispassionately about it.

>>2483961
I was hoping we got Tharra as a new merc, shame

>>2484094
I wouldn't call Lilith "good" desu
Mephisto is also portrayed as shitting and crying when he's defeated so who cares if one angel is depicted as pathetic
Though I liked the "most angels are selfish and ultimately only care about themselves" approach more with Imperius

>>2484176
Angels aren't even selfish, they're just acting within their nature. Humanity from their POV are just a less insidious version of demon. They don't really owe humanity any sympathy.

>>2484176
Imperius literally did nothing wrong

>>2484092
He was in Mephisto's cuck chair for like 10000 years

>>2484099
Yeah the story is pretty bad. You collect three pieces of a sword and then it's over.

Really lame as fuck material.

>>2484361
Mephisto wasn't fucking his wife in front of him, therefore it is not a cuck chair.
If anything he cucked Mephisto, by fucking his daughter, the Ultimate, Final Cuck, according to the hobbit with the pipe. Not only that, but Lilith is made from Mephisto's essence, so in a way he impregnated Mephisto. If anything Mephisto is the cuck.

>>2484362
>You collect three pieces of a sword and then it's over.
Given Blizzard's track record, the shorter the story the better.

im breezing past the game on my first run in expert, i have very little experience in arpgs. is the this easy and gets stupidly hard later or what

>>2484868
If it's too easy put it in penitent, you'll get better loot and XP
But yeah the campaign is pretty easy

>>2485597
expert is the highest i can go before finishing the game

>>2485639
well that fucking sucks
bravo blizzard

>>2483705
used to be a csgog ages ago. not sure why it ended

>>2483815
you probably can. what class are you playing?
some skills just kind of outright suck though, so if you don't pick at least one of the top ~3 you're gonna be stuck doing jack shit probably. But theres a lot of leeway even if you're not 100% meta to get to at least the 100billions which should let you do t12 content depending on your survivability

to hit 10s of trillions though definitely needs a lot of thought-out synergy which is why its reserved for the more meta builds

>>2484868
you will hit a difficulty wall in the torments probably unless you're following a build pretty closely. I think I just winged a necro minions build until like t8 where I started not being able to kill shit

do we like diablo 4 better than 3

>>2486297
yes

>>2486297
yeah

logged in today and i was taking forever to kill anything i thought something got nerfed. however. drunk last night me found a charm upgrade i swapped out and it turns out it was for a different set so i wasn't getting the right bonus kek what a retard

i am the lorath, and I speak for the Horadrim

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>stuck in T10

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>>2483705
>Blows my mind that there is no place to talk about CS on 4chan.
anon, the second fastest thread on this board (which isn't saying much, but still) IS the counterstrike 2 general
there's even another thread that's explicitly for everything BUT the esports
like, it's bad but it's not valorant-tier bad

>>2484868
blizzard is retarded and there's no reason why you shouldn't just automatically unlock the pit at level 70

>it's an infernal hordes week
Maybe this is a sign to stop.

>>2486574
iktf

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Brehs I'm not enjoying paladin this season. Barbarian or Spiritborn?

>>2486734
probably barb. i haven't played either but i think barb and sorc are the best?

i dont know why I die 90% of the time
as cartoony as D3 was at least you could clearly see shit

>>2486734
really good barb season for 1 build with variations. Sorc strongest as always

>>2484598
Explain the joke please. :)

Holy shit sorc feels so much more fun to play than warlock. I've been wasting my time frens.

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>>2485838
>what class are you playing?
Hammer spamming Paladin + auras + constant arbiter
I'm pretty sure the skills aren't the issue, I just really focused on arbiter duration so I didn't have to spam cds to keep it going when I should've gone for more dmg and crit rate
I should also probably get rid of Sundered Night but I love covering my screen with consecration.
Right now I can get up to 200 million.

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I just got carried through Lilith but I've been fucking around on T10 for a bit now. Is the Mephisto fight fun or should I retire now until next season? I'm kinda really tired of not being able to see shit on the ground.

>>2487381
Instakill mechanics just like Lilith

>>2487381
insta poison faggotry

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>>2487671
>>2487687
Gooooooood to know! I'm out then.

>>2484068
>>2484099
inarius is a retard and got what was coming to him for consorting with demons, but my issue w/ the story is like what >>2484085 said; Lilith being turned into a dindu despite letting people get killed and maimed and tortured is just wrong
i know the game lets you pick dialogue choices here n there, and i think it would've been nice if you could at least ultimately pick how your character feels about lilith, instead of fucking spreading her not-ashes into the ocean while sentimental music plays

>>2487702
>instead of fucking spreading her not-ashes into the ocean while sentimental music plays
Biggest issue imo. Even if you're a simp for her there's no denying that Sanctuary is suffering its particular wave of shit right now because of her failed conquest. It's also annoying because she's a fucking Demon and wasn't exiled again, she's just in Hell somewhere reforming and who knows how she'll feel the next time around.
Also, I think Inarius should come back via his "reincarnation" or however you would describe the reformed-but-mindwiped Angel respawn system. As far as I know we've never seen who was confirmed to be reformed from another dead one, even though logically there should be a lot of them, and Blizzard does love redemption stories. Would be nice to see him reborn and re-take control of the Knights Penitent and turn at least some of it into proper paladins and not discount Scarlet Crusaders.
>but the mind wipe...
Just say he was tortured too much for the mindwipe to take full effect or something.

>>2487728
>Blizzard does love redemption stories
Sorry, anon, they don't do those for male characters.

Are Lair bosses the best way to farm mythics? Should i even bother at only T10?

>>2487757
yes but really, ya should run mythic tribute rotas desu. i've crafted 4 mythics on my own via sparks and breaking em down and it's been heart of salvage every time.

So I just unlocked Torment 1, what should my focus be on, getting my paragon levels up? or targeting gear?

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Kek

>>2487803
Paragon leveling starts out super quick and will come with anything you do, when it seriously starts to slow down around 125-150 then you focus on grinding it.
Gear matters more imo at that point. If you aren't following a guide this is where you need to be pushing your build to see what works and what doesn't, and if you are then you need to keep an eye out for the gear you need, hunting for aspects, stuff like that. At T1 uniques are few and far between, at around T5 you'll be swimming in them. Read up on the cube but don't worry about it too much for now, just now to save anything ancestral with GAs as it may be useful later. I would also say hold off on transfiguring anything unless you're absolutely sure it's a stopgap piece of gear.
So tl;dr focus on gear, refine your build, fuck around with the cube except transfiguring for now, keep anything with a star for later.
The only other piece of advice is don't sleep on leveling runes. You'll eventually get them all so figure out 3-4 to focus on.

>>2487842
Thanks, the game’s systems seem to open up quite a bit from the 60-70 range, Lair Boss, Pit, Nightmare Dungeons, Undercity all of it wtaf. I’ve just been salvaging everything I don’t use up to this point. But I’ll keep it in mind. I’m running a sorcerer and so far the game has been pretty breezy, just playing around with stacking ferocity and shooting blue balls at everything. Although my build does feel to be slowing down unless Unstable Currents, I think it’s called, the ultimate power, is online. I’ll have a look tomorrow if there’s better builds out there for the spec.

>>2487803
just spam warplans. theres alot of power in the paragon nodes. some builds need a certain paragon setup to actually work. gearwise I would target required uniques from lairbosses. also dont be afraid to use the cube. mid items can easily be crafted into decent ones

>>2487817
/fit/

why is this general so dead if diablo is better than poe

So be it!

>>2489534
That's for YOU to know and YOU to find out.

ded

>>2489534
everybody here is playing instead of shit posting

You impetuous fool!

NO NO NOO

>>2489534
I prefer Diablo over PoE and I am the canon consciousness of the universe so I'm the deciding factor.

>>2489630
>I am the canon consciousness of the universe
Are you a bejitabro or gokuRAT?

>>2489647
I've never really bothered to watch the Dragon Ball stuff but from what I hear and see second-handed, Vegeta sounds like a much more compelling character, I do prefer his visual design too.

>>2489534
What is there to talk about? These kind of western games don't get fanart, there's little to no deep gameplay or lore to discuss. Everything that could be said about the expansion has been talked about ten times over already. There's literally nothing to do but shitpost until the next season and blizzard games aren't really even worth shitposting about anymore.

>>2489654
>Vegeta sounds like a much more compelling character
Correct, but you left out that he's also more intelligent and handsome.

Think we'll get an expansion teaser at Blizzcon or is it too soon?

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>>2489713
blizzard is no longer the company gamers fell in love with

even if they announce an expansion, nobody will care, it will just be another generic equity slop

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Post you're horns.

>>2489534
d4 is very casual, the systems aren't as deep or incomprehensible to most people like PoE is.

I didnt play until last season so I missed all the growing pains for D4 and I think its a pretty good game and this is coming from a long time PoE1 player (waiting until launch for PoE2 probably I'm not paying 40$ to beta test)

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oh piss off just give me both gem and modifiable already instead of one or the other

>>2489950
>hornfags
grim

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>120 hours on main character
>no mythic seal
fml

>>2490278
Mephisto drops mythic seals

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>>2490329
i killed that lil nigga so many times

dude fuck the butcher in pits. what a fucking asshole

>>2490340
It has way too much health

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>>2490278
Fight the Burning Butcher or Harbinger for Mythics
Still low chance, but disproportionately higher in my experience, even for Seals

>>2490503
i heard the burning butcher has high rates, but he didn't drop me anything. i guess i'm more inclined to spam harbinger, cause he can drop useable uniques for my build at least
and *ugh* my kid just got into a car accident tonight (he's ok), so yeah i'm kind of in the mood to mindlessly spam boss fights for the rest of the night i guess. my car is totalledddddd

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>>2490503
hey, do you open this one too? or does it never drop mythic seals?

Does anyone understand WHY this multiplicative damage pools (buckets) system is in the game? Is it just to diversify builds so that crit dmg isnt always the top stat to go after?

>>2490626
d4 has always had the multiplicative damage --but it's nice now that the elements etc can also partake of that. idk why you're mad about it--it used to be only crit and vuln. it's a lot broader now! heck even "damage on time" is valid, never thought i'd see the day

Wake me up when DB barb have a pulse.

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Snu?

>>2490570
sorry to hear about your car but more importantly, glad your kid is okay

>>2490672
i really tried to not tweak out about it, and i hugged him a lot. his guardian angel is working overtime!!!

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you’re hitting for 30 quadrillion right bros?

>>2490684
Nah avoiding all that bugged and exploited shit

>>2490680
mine's 17 and i worry about him constantly lol

>>2490721
17 exactly! it's so nervewracking. i am 3 whiskies in right now...

>>2490721
>>2490744
17 is too young to drive, bump it up to 21 imo.

I know this is kinda a gay ass question but here goes. I played d3 story and some seasons is d4 worth getting into or is it kinda just for arpg addicts?

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>600 set charm rerolls
>not a single +4 skill upgrade

>>2490818
d4 is pretty casual friendly bro.

>>2490818
It's fun, but I'd get it on sale. Game could use a big balance patch too to rough out the more fucked up bits from launch. Also, the next season should start in early July right around the steam summer sale where it should go on a decent discount.

>>2490820
oh cool, straight up didn't know how grinding was, my last reference for arpg is lost ark after playing d3

>>2490860
is steam better or battlenet store?

>>2490869
The benefit is that you'll get to natively use all the aspects of Steam with it.
The downside is cosmetics are buggy on Steam (you have to do a lot of Hold M1, click M2, then release M1 to equip things) whereas the wardrobe just works on Bnet.

>>2490869
can go either way
personally i got the humble monthly bundle for $15 and then bought the base expac for $40 afterwards

>>2490901
>>2490907
ill just get the steam version since I leave that up for updates, don't care to much about cosmetics dont really buy them

>>2490901
Yeah I noticed that, I’m on steam and Season, Reliquaries, and the wardrobe are super buggy. What about the steam version makes it so?

>>2490818
for what it's worth: i played d3 with a fren, and when d4 launched, he didn't want to learn new systems (old retired guy), so he stayed with d3. maybe 4 seasons ago, i talked him into trying out d4, and he hasn't gone back to d3 at all since.
i think it's hit a sweet spot with the recent expansion update: casuals can just get on and quickly do the season journey and leave, and other people who want to grind for the flawless horadric gems and crazy transmutes and achievement thingies (and i guess leaderboard, but without ssf it's stupid, anyway i digress) can play longer.

Skovos. An entire expansion, of girlbosses.

>>2491751
the amazons cat-fighting with each other was highly accurate tho...

All these on-death gotcha effects are getting old.

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gem farming

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>>2492322
at least I found use for this

>>2492322
i have tons of sapphires, amethysts, and rubies if you want to trade grand gems 1:1 (i need emeralds)

I wish the story would stop pretending Lilith is anything but self-serving.

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>>2492368
I don't trade and got my gem and I am lazy to interact

what should a fresh 70, just finished campaign character do

i took a minibreak after the campaign and i have the warplan "quest" next.

i dont really care about lvl 90000 paragon, but i wanna experience "end game" and at least push until i dont wanna push anymore. also unlock some of the legendary weapon/armor cosmetics i still dont have

and store smoe favor tokens too (im told this carries over between seasons)

>>2491375
I don't know but it's pretty goddamn annoying, not that Blizzard is in a rush to fix cosmetic bugs

>>2492908
>what should a fresh 70, just finished campaign character do
Helltides, nightmare dungeon keys (save any that have the Horadric storageroom or whatever affix until around torment 5), and lair bosses. You'll also end up completing a lot of whispers between all of these. Around t3/t4 start doing pit runs regularly and level your shit.

Fuck I wanna get new expac, but poe2 release is next week. Sucks

>>2493056
Okay I played a little and got to Torment 2

My gear are still all 850 except for the one piece of 900 Ancestral from turning in at the tree. Is this just how you upgrade basically? Just more turn ins at the tree? When can I expect 900+ gear to drop normally

>>2493345 (Me)
Also I feel like my homebrew hammerdin sucks

didnt want to have to copy/paste a build from the net, but my barb has hit a brick wall at torment 6. i obliterate packs but i do basically zero damage to bosses and die instantly to boss abilities.

>>2493345
you wont see much 900 gear drop until like t8
yea thats how you gear up, also turn in the Obols at the curiosities vendor to find stuff

dont forget about your mercenaries, you can barter with one of them to buy different equipment and lootboxes

minion barb MOGS ww barb so hard. holy shit

>>2493849
Tried it and I couldn't see shit with ancients popping left and right, went back to ww

>>2493849
>trying to bait people into getting carpal tunnel
haha

>>2493946
bro you play ARPGs, your wrists are already fucked

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Ran into my first wall. Instantly one shotted by the big wave.
Are other lair bosses easier? I just got an ancestral 2h from world boss, maybe this will be easier now.

>>2494092
lilith is just OP. some of the others like varshan are a joke

>>2494092
Echo of Lilith exists solely for challenges. Her fight is full of bullshit 1-shots, and to reinforce this she has both a dropshit AND incredibly small loot table for drops. If you need to gear up do literally any other lair or greater lair boss.

>Mephisto's daughter is Lilith
>Diablo's daughter is Leah
So who's Baal's daughter?

>>2494262
Moe

>>2492908
warplans are a great way to guide you through the endgame because they have you do a bit of everything

>>2494262
Leeroy

>>2494262
baal is gay as fuck have you played diablo 2

>>2494422
Leah was "natural" and Lilith was basically lab-grown so Baal could just adopt.

>>2494262
>lord of destruction procreating
nope

>>2494116
>>2494256
Oh
Why the hell is it a priority quest pointing you there after you enter Torment then

>>2495100
They did it to make you waste your time, as a joke

>>2495100
its a vestige of the old endgame that blizzard didnt take out of the game for some reason

how do you figure out how to unbrick your dogshit homebrew build? i hit T8 and im starting to get oneshot by random exploding rare packs

>>2495264
>he doesn't know

do i save lair keys or can i just use them now at lower torment

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What the hell is this? I transfigured these gloves, they got locked, but there's no transfigured stat?

>>2495907
are you sure it didn't get more stars?

>>2496097
No it had those 3 to begin withwith
Does transfigure have a chance to do nothing?

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>>2496159
it does something always

this game sucks without the dlc fuck this shit im not buying it yea im poor fuck you too

>>2496338
>dlc
You mean the expansion?

>>2496429
whatever lord of hatred is

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I'm in Torment 5 using items on the left side and not making much progress in the pit that unlocks Torment 6

I also want to switch to Zeal because I'm getting bored of hammerdin now and I think have most of the Aspects needed. But do I use the unique or the much higher item level weapon?

>>2496608
you should temper crit damage into the weapon, add socket and put in a gem

>>2496634
which weapon

>>2496641
The left one for now I suppose. Is the right one zealer meta item? once you farm ancestral version maybe go with that

>>2496661
you want me to upgrade the hammerdin weapons? i dont really wanna play hammerdin anymore, unless zeal actually is worse.

>>2496672
my post was about the two handers

also do people still do citadel
i just found out some transmog im missing are from there

>>2496678
But the right one is already Ancestral, what did you mean by farm the Ancestral version

>>2496686
the unique two hander is not ancestral

>>2496679
you will grind for hundreds of hours for those transmogs, unless they fixed the drop rates of that and didn't tell anyone about it

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I want to buy this sex outfit but I don't want to pay 25 eurobucks. When does it go on for sale? How does this rotation thing work?

>>2496782
the super discount thing is a "personal" shop, kind like league's if you ever played that
so we have no way of knowing when you'll get it.

>>2496760
Well I googled around and it seems like people say it's fixed
And that the bset drop is on Torment 4, which I'm pretty comfortable with
The only thing is the fact that it does not have a solo mode and needs a party member....

Ive read that necro is kinda the slow apm class, any others like it, or perhaps a ranking of the other classes on apm? I dont have the fingers like I used to.

>>2497167
I've got arthritis and the go to for me when I don't want to click a lot is rogue dance of knives or barbarian whirlwind. Both are super comfy, you just activate a few skills every now and then but mostly left click once and then just move your mouse around. Both builds are pretty strong this season as well so you won't even feel gimped.

>>2497185
ok cool, thank you

>>2497185
>rogue
>low apm
Having to click imbuement even 5 seconds sucks ass. It should just be a passive ability

>>2497387
every*

>>2497387
You don't have to click it almost ever with dance of knives. You can increase the time it lasts on the shadow one to make it infinite and the poison one almost double the time. Trust me it's absurdly comfy you won't find another build that pushes less buttons.

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Switched to Zeal and made it to Torment 6

This thing is no good anymore right? They nerfed the build?

>>2497167
>>2497185
play with a controller, it's ultra giga comfy

>>2497387
you can autocast abilities

>>2497803
oh yeah, it has been so long since ive played an arpg I forgot that was an option. gonna half to see if I have an old dusty plug in one to use.

>>2497803
ive tried a bit and its so awkward
i need to find some worth doing but piss easy farming thing i can do with a controller to get used to it

is static blizzard sorc really this brain dead. It hasn’t even been that difficult to prepare the gear for it either. Total Unga Bunga victory

what class to first go through campaing

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>get Belial one(1) time
>pick Butcher loot
>drops FIVE(5) boots instead of an ancestral red sermon
I think I played more D4 in one day today than I ever did before and it ends in disappointment.

>>2497708
my dawnfire auradin made it to t10 and then petered out, it just takes too long to kill things

>>2498971
Fuckers nerfed the shit out of paladins.

>>2498971
I dont know if I have the will to get to T12.
Never did D4 "end game" until now but so far it's basically "Get the Meta Things + Dont Get 1 Shotted = Congrats you pushed to another Torment"

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Have you farmed your 12 GA items this season?

>>2499513
Pretty much, but at least you can pick any build that catches your eye on maxroll and go with it. It doesn't even need to be S tier.
I respecced to zealadin and finished the season journey without much hassle so now i will try to make auradin work.

i have some random shit that you can transmute in the cube for a boss drop. like butcher's or urviar's
obviously you already farmed the shit out of the lair bosses on your existing character, so are you suppose to save this shit for your alts? do they disappear once you get booted back to eternal realm

How do you get that orange flaming sword with the bright outline?

>>2499795
It's Doom collab skin

>>2499850
so its no longer attainable?

>>2499795
Doom collab event, it's no longer available. It's more red than orange though.

They removed aspects from dungeons? Gotta pray for drops to unlock that shit?

these activity tree nodes are so bugged...
>undercity initiative node doesn't change your drop quality
>varshan node, when he spawns, doesn't drop anything
>butcher never spawns in pit
>choron portal in pit takes you someplace useless
>hell's prize chest costs a lot and doesn't give anything better than mystery chest
much less to mention the bugs with nodes stacking if you switch activities in the dungeon...

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is this worth doing
the 3 dungeons were all kind long but it did gave a lot of obols

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>>2500180
They can be pretty lucrative yeah. If you have 3 consecutive nightmare dungeons in your warplan it's a bonus. Astaroth also has his own unique loot pool

>>2500180
not really
it seems like the only way to get bis gear in this game is to get a random blue or yellow drop with at least two 2*s applicable to your build and hopefully cube them to permanent gear.

I'm confused about dark citadel
The loot table all seem to be outdated and specify T1-3 or T4 exclusive (great khazra)
Does doing it on T7 or T8 not give you those drops?

>>2500476
It does, normal set drops up to T3 or so and greater set is T4+ or atleast it was before LoH

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cant get an ancestral red sermon to drop and pit 70(the one that unlocks torment 9) is filtering me

should i just go all in on this instead. dont have all the masterywork mats in the world.

>>2500603
Do you not have access to the cube? If you do you can upgrade a white ancestral into unique

>>2500603
grandfather is pretty good out of the box, MW not necessary
just enchant and gem it

>>2501161
i havent found an ancestral white sword yet
but anyways i went all in on the grandfather and made it to torment 9

but now the torment 10 unlock pit is filtering me now even with the gf

>>2501286
You can also use a blue/yellow, just remove the affixes in the cube. Obols vendor can be handy to get them too.

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who else losing hope
i havent been counting but I probably spent 400 of these things

>>2501312
Yeah, I have been on the look out for them.

I'm a little perplexed where I can squeeze out more stats to get into T10. I have done as much tempering, masterworking and socketing as I (reasonably) can on the few decent ancestral pieces I have. I know there's technically a few more thing I can do but I figured that would be the kind of min/maxxing autism that's needed for T12, not to just get your toes into T10...

>>2501389
i got gem strength transmute! on my pants...

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well at least i've found 66,666 aether anyway
getting close to 200 hrs total season playtime, if i add the 3 characters together FML