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>Favorite OP?
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Ash x Dawn
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>>56363481
Dokimeki Diary.
Liko a cute
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WinterKo.
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>>56363483
>Ash
Ash, yeah, Ash the hero!
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>>56363470
That blond guy reeks of smoking and eating baguette.
But kinda shocked that he didn't preyed aafter Liko. Would've been a good continuation from Spinel and his deeds in the dark alleyway.
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Liko? Makes me happy.
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Ash inspires me
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>>56363470
OP you forgot to change the Nyaa link
https://nyaa.si/view/1863935

I already had a thread ready too, oh well. Just for next time.
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>>56363503
>kinda shocked that he didn't preyed aafter Liko
Why would someone who bakes go prey on a child? Liko is 10!
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>>56363481
Dokimeki.
>>56363503
Mitchell and Murdock made a nice episode in regards to burying the hatchet between two old friends. Although I won't forget the episode because one anon made a fast gif of Likos weedpussy wiggling her ass around at record speed.
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Kinda want Liko's little diary from the beginning to see her doodles of the people and Pokemon she met.
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Epic and emotional
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In the heart of a blizzard, surrounded by the biting cold, Ash shows the true spirit of a Pokemon Trainer. With nothing but his sheer determination and unwavering love for his Pokemon, he shields them from the storm, offering warmth and comfort when they need it most, Ash is a true hero and an example even though the years have passed.
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>>56363525
noob can't even evolve his pokemon
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>Asshsperm got his feelings hurt and starts flooding again
Literally a repeat of last week >>56339508.
I give it two weeks until that manchild gets nuked again like that one AIturd who did the same but with AI images.
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>>56361797
>They must be staying focused to hit some sort of IRL point at the end of the arc, similar to how they revealed a shiny Zygarde right after PLZA was revealed.
That's a fair point. But with the absence of news like a direct anytime soon, it's a wild guess for when it paces back to the six heroes. Probably won't happen within the next month until news are coming in like September or October.
Until then might as well dive into what other elements from paldea might get intertwined with the current runtime.
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>>56363568
It's unfair to insult me for expressing my admiration for the Pokemon hero, Ash. He’s the one who taught countless children that pets are more than just animals, they're our friends, our partners, and our family. Ash's journey and the bond he shares with his Pokemon are undeniably great, and they’ve inspired generations to see the world with a little more heart.
>>56363567
Ash doesn’t need to evolve his Pokemon to prove their strength. Just like in the episode where Pikachu chose not to evolve to battle Lt. Surge's Raichu, he taught us a valuable lesson that day. It’s not about evolution or power levels, it's about the bond between a trainer and their Pokemon, and the strength that comes from believing in each other.
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>>56363513
Was wondering if there was a problem with the website. Thx
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>>56363568
That guy doesn't seem to be Mr F. He usually posts other anime references & pokegirls in the ashnime. I have never seen him ever posting Ash images when he shows up.
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>Multiscale.
>Extreme Speed.
Is Dragonite better than Mega Charizard X ? The final arc on JN series treated Dragonite poorly.
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>>56363634
The current Ashfag also has better English.
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>>56363634
>>56363663
Did I asked if its him? No, I did not and he's just as fucking annoying and retarded.
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>Mitchell and Murdock made a nice episode in regards to burying the hatchet between two old friends.
Them blowing a fuse over the creammon was kinda weird but I liked the sentiment behind it.
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>>56363470
Leon vs Lance should have been Mega Charizard Y vs Mega Charizard X.
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>>56363470
KEK
it's real
https://x.com/MezaMunn/status/1827464660058062989
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>>56363851
Good. Fuck him and them.
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>>56363851
The fact that Jessie and James are also left out should indicate that Ash's exclusion isn't anything against him specifically, but somehow it's always turned around to how disrespected he is. I don't know what it is about Ash fans in particular that makes them do this, but you'll notice that there aren't any TRiofags that go on bitch fits and derail entire threads - aside from when the retard decides to use them to shit talk Amethio because he's too much like Alain.
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>>56363906
I feel that the anime has other characters that Masters could have introduced such as Duplica, Paul , Ursula etc etc.
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>>56363921
As cool as those would be, the games and the TV anime are separated by a pretty thick wall most of the time. I may be talking bullshit, but it seems like ShoPro "owns" the anime and the characters in it. Maybe not legally holding the trademark, but ShoPro is the one making decisions and the Japanese corporate ethos is such that GF/Nintendo let them do what they want. Either way, ShoPro hasn't worked as closely with GF/Nintendo for that crossover appeal since Pokemon Yellow. For big events like a set of characters who have been around for 26 years retiring, that is worth breeching the wall, but now that's over, none of the anime characters have gotten anything new, and they probably won't. It kind of sucks that we don't get as much of the anime lore in the mass appeal crossover games, but I'll never understand the assumption that fans make that creators hate their characters.
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>>56363906
>there aren't any TRiofags that go on bitch fits
Not even Dogasu?
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Ann and Liko?
Property of Roy.
https://files.catbox.moe/dcb636.jpeg
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Dot belongs to Roy
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>>56363972
Near as I can tell, he farts around on his website and twitter most of the time. I haven't seen any sperging against Liko/Roy or Amethio just because Jessie and James aren't there anymore.
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Ash back yet?
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>>56363985
They're children. This is wrong.
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>>56363985
Roy please....
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>>56363993
Dot belongs to Iono.
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Has Rhydon died yet?
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>>56364121
Soon.
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>>56363985
Ann? Yes. Liko? She's a proud racist spaniard
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>>56364234
Well she certainly has a liking for keeping her blood intact...
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Fat Roy.
Obese Dot.
Obese Ann.
Slob Obese Sango.
Obese Futanari Liko.
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Roy bros, care to explain?
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>>56363962
So the Alain loving executive that keeps pushing worst decisions in the show is from ShoPro?
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>>56364365
There is nothing wrong with cream.
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BOOM she won
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>>56364619
>BOOM she lost & acted like a kid instead of how a Unova Champion should act.
FTFY
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>Papa. Fill here. Now.
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>>56364738
Why is she calling Roy Papa?
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>>56364858
She meant to say Papi in the sexual manner.
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>>56364738
Ohh, are you hungry Liko???
I'm going to cook for you a lot of curry!!!
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>>56364010
They should wait until Pokémon Legends Z-A release so they could find an appropriate Mega Evolved pokémon for Ash to shill on Pokémon 2023.


If Ash catches Armarogue, Quaquaval and Flutter Mane then he finally will have a Psychic, Fairy and Fully evolved water starter pokemon. I am started to feel that Ash should have caught Hatterene instead of Sirfetch'd on JN since Bede never appeared anyway and the Hatenna from MPM had better personality and chemistry with Ash than Liko and her Hatenna.
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>>56364903
A Pokeboy that can make food is shocking.
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>>56364889
>papi
Only spics do that, Liko is spaniard.
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>>56363522
>Kinda want Liko's little diary from the beginning to see her doodles of the people and Pokemon she met.
She would probably make a page everyday about her Oshi Gurumin.
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>>56364966
There was that green-haired guy that cooks food but I didn't watch that era of the pokeanime.
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>>56364966
You mean Brock, Cilan , Arven , Clemont, Ulu?
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>>56364858
Liko's papa doesn't have skin of the same color as feces
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>>56365001
Americans are truly disgusting, there is nothing wrong about Roy and his skin.
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>>56364993
That's moreso an teenager who already got slapped with responsibilities related to his professionalism rather than it being a innate skill.
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>>56365001
Liko would dupe Roy for favors but she wouldn't belittle him.
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>>56365036
Well of course, Roy is japanese, he's already little enough.
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Sex with Alex's wife and daughter at same time (because they are the same person)
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>>56365093
Anon, I..
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Pokémon 2023 really failed to provide a good MILF. One good thing about kids anime are the top tier MILF that appears as the MC's mother. Unfortunately nether Liko, Dot and Roy's mother look nearly as attractive as Delia or Lana's mom. Even the SV protagonist's mother is 10 time better than HZ trio's mother.
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>>56365156
>Lana's mom
>Hot
Bitch is basic. And so is Ash's mom.
Liko, Roy, and Dot's mom each mog them in their own way.

But yeah, I agree, anipoke OCs are lame. We need game characters to be the MCs.
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>>56365190
Amazing how she doesn't even have a name but is far and away one of the most popular girls from the Pokemon anime.
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>>56365196
A well-timed wave of off-model fanart can do wonders for even the most simple characters.
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>>https://x.com/Fafnir_26/status/1827670326647328786

One of the reasons Greninja got popular was because it can move like this and use an energy sword to slice attack. Not many pokémon can do this since they lacks a proper boby to move like this and a sword that can slice object. That's why Ash's Lucario failed to be the next Greninja because its movements were too stiff and lacked a proper slicing move.
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>>56365190
>Liko, Roy, and Dot's mom
Doesn't even come close to Delia
Even Koharu and Kiawe's mom mogs them hard.
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>>56365273
More like even Koharu and Kiawe's mom mogs Delia hard.
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List of OC mother before PM2023--
> Delia
> Lola (Brock's mother)
> Caroline (May's mother)
> Talia (Koharu's mother)
> Camille (Goh's mother)
> Mallow's mother
> Lana's mother
> Sima (Kiawe's mother)
> Sophocles's mother
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>Ash fan
>has an incest son x mother fetish
Why is it almost every time? Are there any normal Ash fans?
Even the Alex autist here is a minority, but it seems almost every Ash fan has a mother kink.
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>>56365323
>Are there any normal
No. Their fetish stems from the fact that their mothers gave up on them because of said fetish. Rare cases like the F ag where that fetish as well as their overall failure as a human being led to losing the rights to hotel papa and mama and wasting the rest of their hobo existence raging over how they failed to fuck their own mother.
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>>56365323
> Past couple of threads filled with post about Liko being railed by her dad.
> No word
> Criticise poor MILF design on Pokémon 2023.
> No mention of Ash railing his own mother
> "Oh no, Ash fan has mother x son fetish"
Seriously? Are you that hypothetical?
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>>56365358
Again, that's just a singular dedicated autist. Meanwhile almost every single Ash fan is a fan of parental incest.
Hell, even you have bookmarked tons of momxson pornography.
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>>56365355
What about those who want Liko to get railed by her dad? Even this thread is filled with Liko x Alex post.
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>>56365365
Like the fatfag, that's just one man. Meanwhile every Ash fan wants to fuck their mother.
No fucking wonder they wanted to retire Ash. His only fans were all freaks.
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>>56365358
>>56365365
>Can't tell apart common phrases of little girls from actual degeneracy
>Immediately gets assblasted once some makes fun of Mommy fetish.
Keep projecting, F ag. Nobody cares about your garbage MILF fantasies.
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>>56365363
Hardly anybody talks about Ash railing his mother. Even the most dedicated Ashfag talk more about Ash railing Lana's mom than Delia which stem from their love towards housewife than mommy.
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>>56365383
You're talking about it right now.
Sheesh, Ash fans are all freaks. No freaking wonder there's not many of them, you have to be a freak to like Ash.
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>>56365378
>>56365380
Hardly anybody filled an entire thread about Ash railing his mother. While Likofags consistently talks about how Liko will rail her daddy.
>>56365394
When did I said that? I said that Pokémon 2023 failed to provide a good MILF and since they are NOT my mother so I have no problem wanting to fuck them.
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>>56365403
Whatever you say freak. Go back to looking up Mother x Son porn.
Not like it matters, Ash is retired and never coming back. He's even been hidden from Pokemon Masters and is not canon to any of the games
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>>56365196
The main reason Lana's mom got popular because she captures the true aura of a housewife specially with her off model boobs. At the end, most men wants a prime housewife that would cuddle and spoil them. Most of those characters are ether MILF or Onee-san like Marsha from Roshidere.
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>>56365418
At least that is better than the guy who spam thread after thread about Liko being railed by her daddy.
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>>56365420
Lana's mom got popular because Ash so uninteresting as to make people more interest in freaking side character . Heck at this point it obvious he never come back for so uninteresting , not even any plan for bring him back
>>56365424
Wrong because you spam thread right now about fucking mom which prove all Ash fan are freak since you are only Ash fan on entire /vp/ .
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Incest is no good. That being said, this gave me the idea for another weedlore post for Pokeparents.

>Delia: Smoked weed with her ex-husband and had Ash nine months later. She immediately swore off once the deadbeat left her to deal with the child. She hadn't touched weed until her son left on his journey, but now she relies on the mime to create a hotbox out of invisible walls.
>Flint and Lola: If they ever smoke weed again, the court will take all of Brock's siblings away from them.
>Misty's dead parents probably died in a car accident caused by driving too slowly on the highway.
>Caroline and Norman: Norman's awfully straightlaced and innocent about the ways of the world. He's never even heard of weed. Caroline, lest she cause her autistic husband any disillusionment, goes out into the garden to smoke. This is the reason why May's Skitty likes hanging around her.
>Johanna: Retired from her career as a Top Coordinator to live in a place called "Twinleaf Town." Tells you all you need to know.
>Iris doesn't have parents. Don't think too hard about why.
>Grace: Got hooked on chronic after sustaining an injury Rhyhorn racing. She tells her doctor that she's still recovering, and he doesn't really care so long as she's not abusing steroids.
>Lana's Mom: If she did not smoke, she would've drowned Harper and Sarah while dealing with post-partum depression and her husband's frequent absence due to his work as a fisherman.
>Kiawe's parents: They grow weed, but know not to sample the product.
>Sophocles' parents: They're pretty vanilla about everything and are the type to roll their windows up whenever they drive into a neighborhood where weed could be purchased. Sophocles' mom does have a "Wine Mommy" shirt that she wears from time to time though.
>Mallow's Dad: The snobbiest fucking pot smoker in the world. He is absolutely convinced that he and he alone is able to draw out the true essence of THC.
>Goh's parents: I don't remember them.
>Koharu's parents: Losers.
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Literally every other characterfag:
>Decent inputs and consistent elaborations
>Provide sources without deviation from the original discussion discourse
>Builds consistent shitposts around their favorite characters
>Can keep penisblogging out of their posts if the situation calls for it.
>Able to narrow down if thread is getting derailed by one or more posters
>Don't talk about themselves in third person to appear bigger than they are
>Can take jabs at their characters
>Appreciate character designs for what they are
Asshfags:
>Tumblr tier gushing with rose-inked glasses
>Unable to provide sources, usually have to beg for source while redirecting attention away from the lack of a source.
>Can't stick to one shitposting narrative and usually leeches off from the ones of others
>Unable to stop penisblogging
>Usually the instigators of thread derailments or serieswars
>Talk about themselves in third person with "even the most dedicated" or "most men" to appear bigger than they are
>Can't take a single jab at their self-insert without immediately making it about another character or making it about other posters
>Unable to appreciate character designs, constantly edges on or encourages offmodel slop for quick faps
>Want Pokemon characters to emulate non-Pokemon crap
Jeez, who am I supposed to take seriously? It's just a difficult choice.
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>Liko gets called a mary sue by Ash self inserters nonstop even though she loses most of her battles
>Roy doesn't get called a mary sue even though he's beaten two gym leaders now
It's pretty obvious that there's some Ash bias here. Oh well, at least that means Ash fans are finally accepting that Roy is the new Ash.
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Can we talk about obese girls dynamics instead of Ash dynamics?
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>>56365721
>Liko gets called a mary sue by Ash self inserters nonstop even though she loses most of her battles

She only lost two and one of them is a freaking Elite 4. Roy only defeated two gym leader on a rematch, there is no guarantee that Liko won't beat Kathy on a rematch after Floragato learn Acrobatics.

Also, learn the difference between an overpowered protagonist and Mary Sue.
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>>56365733
Realistically speaking, Anime Serena and Liko should be fat. They both specialize in cooking and building themselves up to be housewives, so the fact they're not larger in certain areas is just wrong.
Honestly, all of Ash's female companions should be fat too. The only female main characters that shouldn't be fat are Chloe, who's a masterful social manipulator and would naturally want to keep her appearance up, and Dot, who starves herself enough to offset her poor diet.
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>>56365757
So basically you admit that Liko is the strongest Anipoke protagonist ever, even stronger than Roy who has Nemona's interest.
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>>56365774
Fat or obese?
I think Dot should be obese, she is a social acceptable neet.
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Serena is Liko except --
> Serena is prettier and bustier.
> Serena has an actual goal.
> Serena has a crush on Ash.
> Serena has no special connection to any ancient hero that makes her the key to find an ancient area.
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>>56365831
You mean Serena is champion of Kalos who easily defeated Elite 4 and Diantha on her first try. This is because Ash is retconned and nobody remember him anyways since he retired
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>>56365831
I think Serena is a very meh character, she was only good in her anime series because the writers gave her a lot of more time and episodes than other Pokégirls, imagine Liko with the ammount of episodes and sreentime of her.
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>>56365847
Serena actually had less focus than most of the other Pokegirls. In terms of episodes, even proportionally, she had fewer big events than May and Dawn, and as a result of having a four-man group, she didn't really stand out the way Iris and Misty did during the episodes that weren't about her. In fans' minds, a lot of her appeal is propped up by the fact that she was shipbait. That being said, once you get passed the amour-fixation, she does have a pretty great arc on her own. It would've been better if she had a bit more of a personality like Misty, May or Dawn, but her focus episodes tend to be the better ones in XY until Team Flare shows up.
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>>56365878
I also think she wouldn't look as cute as a fat girl like Liko, even if she has a very long fat fanfic which is infamous for portraying her as bit of a psycho torwards Ash,=.
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>>56365890
Well, I'm not the best judge on these matters, so I'll defer to your expertise.
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>>56364738
Alex is such a faggot, how can he not tap and retap this?
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>>56364903
That's not were the stomach is you dumb fuck
No wonder not even a slut like Dot lets you score with her
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>>56366675
Roy is a pure boy and doesn't understand this type of things!
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Imagine an obese Liko farting...heh
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>>56366783
Imagine Ash inhaling those farts
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>>56366803
Ash couldn't be a good friend or a boyfriend for Liko.
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>>56366783
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>>56366874
It's a thunderous sound but without any smell.
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I'm still pissed about Charizard going to Unova to do literally nothing was the last time reserves were used until the epilogue.
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>>56364651
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>>56365831
And fans actually want her to return, unlike trAsh
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>>56366897
Ash doesn't care about his pokemon. They're just tools to him.
Name one other champion or elite 4 in the entire pokeverse who has pretended to care about and then abandoned a hundred pokemon like Ash has. Can't? That's because only Ash is that heartless. It's why Ash could never become a champion until just before his retirement, he never had the potential to become a real pokemon master.
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>>56364619
As soon as I conjure 100 billion dollars and buy TPC: she's losing her title to Ritchie, losing her virginity in a wager match against Clark the conductor, and getting pumped and dumped by Morrison.
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>>56364619
Why is she like this?
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>>56366986
He wasn't supposed to be. He was supposed to be a hero.
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>>56367064
Well Giovanni is still at large so some here he was. Gibeon, however? Roy's gonna kill that old man if Liko doesn't get to him first.
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Isn't it funny how Ashfags insist on bringing up Ash here and circlejerking about him, but any time someone tries to make an actual Ash/Satoshi general on /vp/ it dies quickly?
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>>56367085
At the end of the day Ash has always been a leech on the franchise, unable to survive on his own. His fans have picked that trait up from him.
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Who is the worst poster of this thread?
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>>56367105
Not counting Famon, it's gotta be the OP for posting a disgusting frenchmen/g*larian
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If someone hypnotizes you with their Pokemon, is that grounds to kill them?
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>>56367085
I feel like talking about Ash on my schedule not anyone else's. I'll here out your complaints in good faith and maybe watch the show when Riko wins a gym badge or has a full team
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>>56367102
>unable to survive on his own
Isn't that true of nearly every character though? Can Luke Skywalker exist without Star Wars?
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>>56367133
Goh seems to be doing just fine on his own.
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>>56367129
If you don't want to discuss the Likonime and are only interested in Ash, why are you still here then?
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So, it's been 62 episodes and two seasons of PM23 so far. What are your opinions on Liko, Roy, and Dot? Are you enjoying how the writers are handling them?
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>>56363470
ily!!
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>>56367318
I didn't expect the incest subplot but so far I'm enjoying Liko as a protagonist, and Roy is a nice boy.
Dot is based as fuck and the best one
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>>56367318
Well, so far as character development goes, Dot's the strongest no questions asked. She has changed the most out of the group, and even if anyone could see her incredibly basic ass development from miles away, it just works. Liko's character, on the other hand, feels terribly plain. If not for Terapagos, she would have no reason to exist in the story. Roy's character has surprised me, despite starting as the most battle-centric character of the group, and the only one to consistently train, he kept getting his ass kicked multiple times. Now though, he is the only one who actually wins his gym battles, is consistently getting stronger improving his battle style, and on top of that has Nemona as his senpai. He has a future as a real Pokemon trainer beyond trying to catch Rayquaza.
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>>56367326
Don't forget the Roy on Liko violence action regarding his sandwiches.
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Dot >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liko >>>> Roy.
Liko's character development has been good so far, still not so sure the tears from her battle with Rika were earned, but its at least emblematic of her taking battling seriously, and this far she been more outwardly motivated as a trainer. The last 3 episodes were literally the best Roy has gotten, but mainly due to the fact that he's been sidelined a lot. Dot is still far and away my favorite character in terms of character development and her episodes are consistently some of the best in the series. Strength wise its been a bit more rocky. It doesn't FEEL like Liko and Roy have seen that much progress. Like obviously the idea is that they've gotten stronger but something about it just feels off. I don't want to say that their strength feels unearned but I guess they haven't seen enough battling to make it feel like they improvements aren't kinda rushed. Dot started off a pretty good battle wise, but her loses and unsatisfying victory feel like she's being held back to keep pace with Liko and Roy. Her battle with Larry for example had her get beaten without even taking out a single one of his Pokemon, while Roy was able to beat both of Ryme's. If Liko does better than Dot in her battle then I'm pretty much going to assume Dot's either being set with trainers she can't beat or the show writers are boosting Liko and Roy.
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>>56367318
>>56367371
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>>56367318
I don't have much to add about Liko/Roy/Dot that the others haven't hit on, aside from the fact that I didn't expect to like Dot and the fact that she won me over proves how right the others are about her.

Instead, I'd like to say that I think they've really dropped the ball on the RVT up to this point. Even before the third arc where they were kind of written off so that the kids could do their training arc, the non-Friede cast took a backseat that I didn't care for. In the first 12 episodes, the RVTs didn't really have individual focus episodes, but they worked within the Asagi ecosystem with the shipmons so that they always had some interesting contribution to the episode. The second arc had more filler and focus episodes for some of them, but they also felt extremely shallow. Orio's episode with the Pokeball workshop was probably the best, but Mollie and Murdock felt like tack-ons with their spotlight episodes. Landau's was a gag episode; perfectly funny, but also inconsequential. The one thing that Horizons has that distinguishes it from the Ashnime is the adult half of the cast, and they feel like they're being wasted right now, especially compared to the episodes before the Galar arc.
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>Amethio still nowhere to be seen
I still remember when people thought he would be important
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>>56367318
the characters yes
I think Roy and Dot have stolen the show and are very well-developed
I think Liko is good but has been slow so far.
I think likos pokemon(mainly floragato is well developed)
as for the plot I feel like its been a little slow. yes they are doing school stuff but the main plot with team explore has been almost non existent rn
I am hopfull for the future
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>>56367465
Probably because they were trying to aim for a older audience with the older cast but they discovered that kids prefer to watch show about their own experiences.

It's weird that in the west kids want to be an adult character like Batman while in Japan they want to be the kid hero.
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Only 88 episodes left until PM23 ends and nothing of note has happened yet. How THE FUCK did they fucked up so badly?
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>>56367557
They didn't fuck up. They just lied to us that this would be a real anime rather than more anipoke fastfood.
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>Dawnnigger whining about nothing happening
Shouldn't be surprised that they're the one doing it since their time was only memorable for Kenny's cuckening and that happened near the end of DP.
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Wonder when Spinel will kidnap Liko
He did conclude that she was a key at the end of the first Paldea arc
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>>56367576
Is it really cuckening if Dawn never got with Ash? If anything Dawn's the one who got cucked since Ash left for her a nigress. Kenny simply got rejected in a humiliating fashion
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>>56367586
Probably at a opportune situation. Leverage for the six heroes or the turtle since Gibeon made it clear he wants that little shit the most. Probably when they finished collecting all six heroes.
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>>56367586
>Wonder when Spinel will kidnap Liko
Probably when they meet the last one or during a excursion related to Rakualium. Kitakami has some lore related to Tera as well, maybe they'll one episode with a trip to that lake too.
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Is there any hope for Sango, Anne and Amethio's mother to be a top tier MILF?
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>>56367586
So did Amethio.
Remember that he also didn't just wanted the pendant, he also needed Liko to come with him.
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Has Roy fucked Nemona yet?
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>>56367368
She deserved it for always making them like Alex likes them and not just asking the person who will eat it his tastes
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>>56367726
>Has Roy fucked Nemona yet?
In the future.
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Dot fuck Liko
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>>56367302
It's /padt/ it's the Pokémon anime discussion thread. Where the fuck else am I supposed to go if I randomly want to bitch about Ash's Kingler being shafted? You expect me to control F something else just because Riko exists? Fuck you.
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>>56367139
He has to leech on the Pokémon board.
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>>56367815
At least he's self-sustaining enough to support his own thread.
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>>56367813
>Riko
Who?
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Sassy silver hair girl when?
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>>56367823
I thought Liko and Riko were interchangable. Like Rook and Luke. Same person.
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>>56367852
People haven't called her Riko since like the first month of the upgraded anime airing
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>>56367852
They are, people just won't use it, just like they won't use "Rizādon"
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>>56367664
But they're not siblings
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Ash x Dawn
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>>56367828
Brah. Just go watch Roshidere dub. Ash is surprisingly fappable.
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>Terapagos gets happily kidnapped
Those drifloons would've been murdered if the abduction was successful, weren't they?
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>>56368111
No, but they would have wished so.
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>>56367318
>What are your opinions on Liko, Roy, and Dot?
Liko had a slow start but picked it up at the start of the current chapter. She's ok.
Roy is my boy.
Dot was surprisingly better than I anticipated.
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>>56368127
>This is the face of a genocidal mass-murderer
My God, does Liko even realize what kind of terror she keeps in her bag?
By the end of it, Lilo either gets traumatized or ends up five feet below the dirt.
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>>56366555
Because Alex wouldn't want to mentally abuse Liko.
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>>56367318
All really great, I do think Liko's goal of understanding pokemon is a bit nebulous but it's been really enjoyable watching them all come into their own
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>>56367078
>Roy's gonna kill that old man if Liko doesn't get to him first.
Roy would need a pretty good reason to stain his hands. Getting Arven'd maybe?
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>>56368149
Do we know if Roy or anyone else has talked to his parents in the last few years?
It's possible he got Arven'd after all.
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>>56368155
They've been omitting it. The Likonime made it a point to actually feature the parental figures at some point when they're getting mentioned or getting talked about so at some point they might appear in person or Roy actually gets arven'd during the story, on the very off-chance of showing it.
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>>56368214
comfy
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>>56363470

Ceruledge's moveset if it was Ash's Pokémon --
> Bitter Blade
> Phantom Force
> Shadow Sneak
> Brick Break/Dragon Claw
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>>56368249
Ash not smart enough for that . Heck he not even teach he pokemon extreme speed or agility .
At this point it obvious why Nemona interest in Roy instead
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>>56367512
It's so weird how Amethio has been handled. Like they just haven't given him anything. If he actually gets a redemption arc then it will feel lackluster as hell because unlike many other redemption arcs, we haven't gotten to know Amethio during this entire run so far.

Obviously that could likely change when the school arc is over so here's hoping
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>>56368252
Nah. Let the fag keep it coming. I want to see if he actually knows his chops when I run it on Showdown.
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>>56368252
>Ash not smart enough for that
Ash is much smart enough to use Ceruledge better than an edgelord.
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The based team Ash could have gotten --
> Pikachu
> Charizard
> Ceruledge
> Corviknight
> Gardevoir
> Garchomp
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>>56368280
They mixed him with Spinel's agenda so once both sides meet again in regards to Rakualium or even the turtle alone, it might mark the start of it.
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>>56368280
He had enough chill to not do nasty shit to Likos weedpussy. It most likely will center on the family pressure, likely centering around the fact that the father called it quits before getting too mixed up, which is definitely how Amethio got involved.
They will if they aim for a anti-hero route build some scenes with Amethio and Liko beforehand of the point of bailing.
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Spinel fucked by Friede
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>>56368373
The subs are missing a E.
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>>56368373
I was half-expecting Friede to rape Spinel in the dark when they fought during the Rayquaza two-parter
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What is Anne?
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>>56368386
Yes.
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>>56368400
>What is Anne?
Extremely based. Liko won't know what will hit her.
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>>56368393
Now that would be silly. Friede only has eyes for Amethio. They're butt pirates.
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>>56368405
Amethio is so lucky.
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>>56368400
A harlot trying to steal Alex from Liko
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>>56368422
>trying to steal Alex from Liko
Why would she do that? It's not like Alex loves Liko THAT way.
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Some shots are pretty well framed.
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>>56368455
Not yet, amigo. Not... yet.
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>>56368478
How would Liko even pull it off?
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>>56368405
Would be kino
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>>56368494
Woman's secret.
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>>56368508
Liko is 10!
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>>56368499
I will kneel if Mole Anne is true.
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>>56368523
Out of 10, that's why Alex will fall.
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>>56368369
Why would Friede do that?
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>>56368671
Spinel gets fucked against his will as retribution for assaulting Liko in a dark alleyway
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>>56368761
Why the fuck is /vp/'s housewife threatening with violence?
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>>56368615
Dorks.
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>>56368478
She will never score Alex.
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>>56367596
And even his "rejection" was hardly that.
>Says he was cool beating Ash
>Promise they'll meet again
As far as pairing in Pokemon go i would they they are pretty much endgame like May and Drew
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Spinel kidnaps Liko but it's a fancy dinner.
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Lillie look so much better on Masters than the core game and anime. Is it because she share same hair colour as Cynthia? Or did Master did something different with her face?
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>>56369203
She looks older/taller.
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>>56367078
Naw I think they are going to keep Jessie and James around for sweeps.
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https://x.com/soulsilverart/status/1828054909712806024

There is a Chinese Pokémon miniseries?
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>>56369206
Lillie is taller in the core game.
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Its funny how JN series turned Iris into the most important lead girl of the series.
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>D-doto-shi, what are you doing!?
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>>56369301
There are worse things that could happen to a streamer than a kouhai losing control. She could end up getting extorted for money, or idk getting gaslit into opening a PokeFans. Knowing her character, she would probably have one already if they bumped up the Age rating a bit higher.
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>>56368791
>Why the fuck is /vp/'s housewife threatening with violence?
Liko is still mad about the time she got benched which resulted in a really bad loss for /vp/
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Ash and Serena should had similar chemistry as Natsu and Lucy.
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>>56368214
Everytime there is a scene between Liko and her weedpussy getting intimate with eyesex, there is a fucking sunset. They're not hiding it anymore.
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>>56367726
>Has Roy fucked Nemona yet?
Soon
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>>56369510
Ash isn't canon tho
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>>56369568
>Everytime there is a scene between Liko and her weedpussy getting intimate with eyesex, there is a fucking sunset.
I swear they even included it in the manga focusing solely on the two.
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>>56368405
>Liko won't know what will hit her.
A fist from Roy? She got to know them well.
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>>56369527
Feel like something OG Ash would do.
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>>56369722
OG Ash wasn't that interested in girls. The most he ever did was blush when looking at one single girl's cute dress, but that was probably because he was imagining himself crossdressing in that dress since we all know Ash likes to crossdress.
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>>56369730
>OG Ash wasn't that interested in girls
Nether does Natsu
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>>56369744
Ash is not canon but Natsu is
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>F aggot replies to himself demanding more non-Pokemon shit to be copied
Pathetic.
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> Nemona = Roaring Moon.
> Mentor Roy
> Ash = Iron Valiant
> Mentor Liko
Search your heart, you know it to be true.
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>>56369778
I don't think Roy's good enough to mentor Nemona yet. Maybe later down the line once he catches a legendary like a true pokemon master.
Liko though, yeah Ash could learn a lot from her.
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Mentor Liko? Liko gets to be a mentor?Sign me the fuck up.
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Liko and Roy would make good mentors at the end of the Rakua ordeal. Loaded with a big adventure as well as redpills from the paldean gym leaders make some experience to impart onto others.
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MentorKo is strong Liko
MentoRoy is good Roy.
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>>56369794
I said Nemona mentoring Roy and Ash mentoring Liko.
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>>56369855
Search your heart and you know only Nemona mentoring Roy to be true. Ash has nothing to teach Liko, he doesn't even know steel is immune to poison.
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>Ash reappears and reveal he caught a Girafarig offscreen as his first psychic type pokémon.
How would you react?
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>>56369873
Ash is not canon so this would not happen.
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>>56369871
>Ash has nothing to teach Liko,
Ash has many things to teach Liko just like he did for May, Dawn, Serena & Lille.
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>>56369881
So literally nothing, got it. Ash didn't teach them anything, he only helped cheer them up when they got sad.
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amazing how this anime is dead even nobody talks about the old anime neither isee more discussion of bayble yugioh etc.. the state of anipoke
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>>56369972
The anime always was fucking dogshit even for children anime
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>>56369972
32 years of literal garbage will do that. The games can only carry this deadweight trash for so long.
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>>56369855
You said "Mentor Roy" and "Mentor Liko", you stupid piece of shit. God you're dumb.
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>>56369977
>>56369984
That's the stroketard. Expect his ESLass to get nuked within a few hours like he always does.
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>>56369989
I said they mentor Liko and Roy.
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Lipoop
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>>56369984
The games are garbage too. The whole franchise is.
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>>56370021
Aye but the anime has always been garbage among garbage whereas at least the games provide the pokemon, characters, and the world. The games are the backbone of the franchise like it or not, while the anime is just kinda there, leeching away.
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>>56369989
And the F aggot starts backpedaling big time. What a fucking bitch, thinking he can change what he said.
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>Amethio mentoring Ash on being a Pokémon trainer
Search your heart, you know it to be true.
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Horizons is better because most girls would look amazing as fatties.
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>>56370113
>Ash meets a strange trainer who's really depressed
>tries to help cheer him up
>ends up training together, but Amethio knows way more about pokemon and training than Ash does
>As they talk, it somehow ends up turning into a lecture where Amethio teaches Ash how to be a pokemon trainer
>Amethio's mood begins to visibly lighten up as he keeps talking so Ash pays close attention to Amethio's mentoring to make him happier
>Ash ends up learning new things like "Steel is immune to Poison"
>they team up to fight Gibeon but still lose since only Liko and Roy are powerful enough
Anybody with braincells can see that at this point it's obvious that it looks like that if you search your heart, you know this to be true.
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>>56364619
What if she farted and that's how it sounds lol
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>>56370151
so true
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jynx rapper evolution killed the series
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>>56365156
>>56365196
Lana's mom was a mistake and I will never forgive sm for putting that in but removing Hau for most of the anime when his Dartix/Decidueye has more personality than a 1/3rd of the bloated cast
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>>56370210
>Hau gets virtually no screen and the writers give Ash a gifted win by letting his Rowlet have two held items and cheat by escpaing the shadow arrows
>Hop literally only appears like once at the very end and he's treated like a beginner trainer despite being strong enough to defeat Leon in the games
SM and JN really were just mary sue self insert fantasies.
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>>56370246
They were done dirty.
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>>56370190
See? I don't know which one I like more, Ann, Dot, Liko or even the random characters.
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>>56370271
Nemona and Penny too
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>>56370276
Nemona would be one of those very fat gils who think they are muscular while Penny would be a more slobbier version of Dot.
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>>56370276
How you think those girls would be being super fat?
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The next protag, who travels the regions beating all champions
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>>56369703
Why did Roy punched Liko?
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>>56370398
Cynthia...
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LiThin?
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>>56370681
LiIris
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>>56370681
She is already thin and fit.
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We need to talk more about fat pokégirls dynamics...
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liko..
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10563286
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Liko.. Ann..
https://img3.gelbooru.com//images/cf/d7/cfd7c76b26a612eab5276a422e1169aa.png
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>>56371237
They all want his chocolate bar
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>>56370246
But Ash didn't give a shit, he made it clear that he only wanted to fight Gladion in the final. What exactly was the problem?
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>>56371526
Then why not just have him fight Gladion in a random battle rather than give Ash a gifted win in the championships? What exactly is the problem with just doing that?
I'll tell you what the problem is. It means Ash can't be a mary sue with a gifted championship.
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>>56371533
ash as gladion episodes before made it clear that they expected in the final ash was literally upset at the possibility of not reaching the final with ash he literally fucked with hau since he wanted rowlet to have his revenge and immediately wanted to finish the fight he beat hau
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>>56371544
>no no you see Ash also got to defeat Gladion so that makes all the other mary sue bullshit okay! Let's not pay attention to the fact he also went on to beat Kukui and a Tapu despite struggling so hard just to beat Guzma
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>>56371533
>>56371544
>>56371545
Can you two useless turds shut the fuck up before you drag it out in a sissy-tier catfight?
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>>56371492
How Dot hasn't gotten sick of Roy is a miracle.
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>>56371545
>>56371545

It is mentioned in Ash vs. Gladion that he grew and became stronger quickly between battles with Lightning, who became stronger in their fight. What is the inconsistency?
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>>56371544
>he literally fucked with hau since he wanted rowlet to have his revenge
nta but Hau was absolutely demolishing Ash in that fight. Ash had literally no answer to Hau's offensive and needed multiple asspulls to save him
>"Rowlet was just sleeping so restart the battle!"
>"Haha Rowlet's second held item(which is illegal) let him escape the Spirit Shackle, and then Rowlet one shots Decidueye despite doing fuckall damage to them throughout the fight!"
I mean, no matter how you look at it this is pretty damning. It's almost as bad as the Pikachu vs Seviper fight, where Pikachu took 10 attacks without fainting but then KO'd seviper with a single attack.
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>>56371564
>>56371565
>>56371552
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>>56368684
Now, Spinel wasn't assaulting Liko. He was helping to clear her mind of anything unnecessary. As well as the male population of that town.
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>>56371565
Rowlet used dance feathers, it wasn't the suit that saved him and it was a movement that surpassed decidueye. In fact, the damage to decidueye wasn't a big deal, seriously, it was literally the dance feather, not a suit, and Hawlucha entered the field with a suit, which problem did Rowley do
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>>56371579
You literally did not watch the episode.
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>Ashnime
>bad writing
Name a more iconic combo. Protip: you can't
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>>56371589

Your argument literally sucked and anyway it was obvious Ash would reach the end since he had his gladion duel
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>>56371617
The Gladion duel should have been first and then he gets defeated by Hau. It's obvious Hau was destroying Ash
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Is it true that Roy will end up with Dot?
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>>56371639
Roy will end up Kieran'd and cucked from everything he ever wished for. Roy is the new Kenny.
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>>56371627
eh no kaudan and kahunas except denio literally had ash and gladion as their favorites to win the league no one cares hau
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>>56371654
So more mary sue shit. Everyone loves Ash and he gets all the gifted wins. Are you stupid?
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>>56371639
Dot will end up with Iono.
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It's funny how they even made a scene of him crying after the battle. Really shows how much the staff hates Hau.
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>>56371657

And why wouldn't it be admired since Gladion and Gladion stopped Necrozma? Surely Kalos Ash and his Greninja Oc don't speak
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>SMnigger has a stroke
>Immediately starts making about Kalos once running out of excuses
Both XYturds and SMniggers are fucking losers but this is just a pathetic excuse to drag this out.
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>>56371667
Ash needed two held items, a free rest, a cheat to escape Spectral Arrows, and cheat damage to win. It's clear Hau was the better trainer and Ash's victory was poorly written.
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>>56371670

maybe because of sm ash is not mary sue and your examples suck minimally tell me what things mary sue had
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>>56371677
You type like a child.
This is an 18+ website.
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>>56371682

well tell me what a mary sue is like when it doesn't fit into anything that a mary sue is supposed to be and there are characters that fit much more into that description like goh
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It's interesting that HZ has had legendary battles multiple times and yet not once has it had bad mary sue writing like the Ashime. There's not been any "he was actually just sleepings" or "actually I get to have two held items", nor have there been any "I get a fourth gimmick"s. It's just been mediocre to good writing all around
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>>56371699
I agree. It's been actually feasible while conveying the sense of facing a threat.
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>>56371699
>>56371701
HZ has its flaws but the lack of Mary Sue shit is not one of them.
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>>56371709
>>56371709
>>56371709
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>>56371697
A mary sue is someone who magically beats someone who's better than them and then the loser's own father says he likes the mary sue more than his own son. A mary sue is someone who gets a super special super unique Lycanroc evolution. A mary sue is someone who gets a Meltan that combines its power with hundreds of other meltan to give the mary sue even more cheat wins.
>>56371707
There is a substantially less amount of mary sue shit in HZ than the ashime. What mary sue shit is there so far other than Liko and Roy starting with the pendant and the ancient pokeball respectively? So what? The turtle is a major weakling and Rayquaza immediately left Roy.
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>>56371713

Ash defeated Gladion in all legality. Kaudan supported Ash because he considered him a better trainer, not because of favoritism. Lyncarod is simply a subspecies, not a unique form. Obviously, everyone supported Ash because he was their friend and there is even Lillie, who supported both Ash and Gladion. Goh and Liko are real mary sue
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>>56371732
In all legality. Really great strawmen that means jackshit.
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>>56371732
In all legality Ash shouldn't have even made it to Gladion in the first place. He needed cheats to get that far and still needed cheats to counter the counter
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>>56371737
116 / 5,000
Explain to me how Ash's victory against Gladion was not legal when Gladion himself is happy about Ash's victory
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>>56371742
Guzma was not happy about Ash's victory so I guess that proves it's not in all legality.
There is something wrong with your brain.
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>>56371738
Gladion was a bigger cheater with discs and without any kind of weakness
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>>56371746
If using 2 held items is okay then what's wrong with using the discs?
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>>56371745
Guzma never got over being Kukui's bitch since he was young. Obviously he wouldn't take Guzma as a base if Victoria Ash was legal
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>>56371753
But Guzma was supposed to fight Kukui. The episodes made it obvious, so that means Guzma was supposed to defeat Ash.
SM's writing was really bad.
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>>56371751
that the discs are not natural allow you to change the type as you like and there is no limit
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>>56371758
A costume that lets you escape from spectral arrows is also not natural. Plus the discs are only one held item.

SM's writing was really bad.
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>>56371759
Gladion literally escaped from insta kill with those discs and has no limit unlike games in any case if ash is gary stu gladion was also following your logic
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>>56371765
So it's okay when Ash uses multiple held items but not anyone else?
Sheesh, talk about mary sue. SM had terrible writing.
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>>56371772
Ash trains daily Gladion No the latter somehow keeps up with Lunala's chosen one a legendary because if somehow even sister Kiawe and everyone says how great he is instead of supporting their friend, yeah sure Gladion is no Gary Stu.but Ash trains daily yes
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>>56371784
Ash doesn't train daily, most SM episodes pass without any training. But we know for a fact that Gladion is training every single day, he does literally nothing else.
SM had such bad writing.
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>>56371786
proof that gladion trains daily besides i'm right gladion was given lunala z crystal and she chose him as her partner because if despite legendary characters she only joins with unique characters
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>>56371791
>SM fanboy justifies Ash being a mary sue with "He's just supposed to win, okay?"
lol. Gladion trained nonstop, Hau was always on the grind, and Guzma was always looking for ways to get stronger.
But Ash was a mary sue so none of it mattered. Guzma didn't even get to fight Kukui, Hau got cheated against, and Ash got to use a mary sue lycanroc form against Gladion.
Such terrible writing.
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>>56371794
Ash has a super rare Lyncarod, Gladion gets a Zoroark and a legendary Major like Lunala, he respects him, if Ash is a Gary Stu, you don't know the definition
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>>56371804
>Guzma's golisopod randomly gets scared of Ash even though Guzma's whole deal is with Kukui
>Hau loses because the ref gave Ash's Rowlet a free rest and permitted two held items, and even then Rowlet needed mary sue damage boosts to KO Decidueye in one hit
>Gladion get's robbed by a mary sue Lycanrock form, a "counter the counter" that shouldn't even work because the first counter should have sent the mary sue lycanroc flying
>throughout the tournament Ash further proved what a mary sue he was with meltan and ultra beasts
sheesh. Talk about bad writing.
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>oh man they're really hyping up this Guzma vs Kukui battle, I can't wait to see it-
>oh, the mary sue ruined it with another asspull. okay
Maybe if Ash wasn't a mary sue SM could have had good writing. But it's clear that Ash's mary sue status prevented the good writing from coming through.

Like seriously, SM was so awful. They shouldn't have even had a tournament at all, it should have just been an Ash vs Gladion match.
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>>56371809
>>56371809

It's not being Gary Stu, apart from that, Gladion already had a resolution with his family, in the end he stopped being separated and didn't deserve the victory>>56371809
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>>56371823
It literally is. Every bit of SM writing was pointing to literally anything except Ash winning against everything, but the mary sue ruined it all.
SM's writing was awful and it was ruined by a mary sue.
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>>56371826

Why would Gladion win when he was already happy that his family was not separated like before since gladion narrative already had closure>>56371826
>>56371826
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>>56371833
>I get two held items
>and I get a free retry after resting
>and I get uberbeasts
>and a meltan
>and a special lycranroc
>and Golisopod is scared of me for some reason even though it beat the shit out of me before without fear
>and I counter the counter even though the counter should have sent my special lycanroc flying
>and I defeat a tapu even though I could barely handle golisopod
It's mary sue trash, I'm sorry but that's what it is and SM's writing was shit as a result. Gladion worked 100x harder for that win while Ash was just playing around in alola
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>>56371836
We never see Gladion training apart from according to Lillie Ash trains a lot, Lillie's opinion is yours
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>>56370384
>The current Masters 8 loser, who travels the regions being defeated by all champions
FTFY
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>>56371842
>we never see Gladion
Yes, because he's not the main character. On the contrary, we barelysee Ash training either despite him being the centerpiece of nearly every episode. This means we know for certain that Ash barely trains, while Gladion has theoretically 100% training uptime. Considering Gladion isn't having fun around alola all the time like Ash, what else would he be spending his time on if not training?
Ash was the biggest mary sue ever in SM.
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>>56371848
Lillie doesn't say that she literally believes Ash trains a lot
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>>56371850
"a lot" is subjective. Someone who literally never trains(like Lillie) would believe that training once every 100 episodes(like Ash) is a lot.
Regardless, we have confirmation how often Ash actually trains from the episodes themselves. And Ash barely ever trains.
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>>56371853
>Ash barely ever trains.
This is a troll, anybody who actually watches the show knows thwt Ash had more Onscreen training than any other characters.
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>>56371896
>This is a troll, anybody who actually watches the show knows thwt Ash had more Onscreen training than any other characters.
I dare you to list each episode Ash actually trained in and explained what sort of training he did. I guarantee you the training you list will all be "he had fun building sand castles which trained endurance also he fought team rocket"

Honestly, I've kinda been having fun with this argument but the entire time I was only really continuing it to see if you had anything to actually say in defense of SM. But all you've done is deflect and claim that it's actually okay for ash to use two held items, get a free rest and a retry, escape from the Spectral Shackles, rob us of the Guzma vs Kukui match, use ultra beasts a meltan and a special lycanroc, etc.

I was genuinely curious if the SM fanatics have built up a solid defense after all these years but it seems SM is still the inexcusable trash it always was, and that Ash is an irredeemable mary sue. Thanks for confirming that.
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Ash is the biggest mary sue the Pokemon franchise has ever seen and XY/SM/JN prove it.
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>>5637190
SM015 : Train Rockruff
SM017 : practicing Z move with Kiawe
SM019 : train on Sophocles's machine
SM022 : train Litten to Master Fire Fang
SM027 : train Rockruff and Rowlet.
SM030 : train his and Lillie's Vulpix.
SM034 : Ash train Kiawe.
SM036 : Ash practice his new Z move.

There are lot more but I have other things to do now than make a list for somebody who doesn't watches the show. By the way, try to make a list for Gladion and Hau training their Pokémon.
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>>56371986
>First episode is asswiggling
Yep, not training at all. Your copes are fucking garbage.
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>>56371986
Most of those aren't actual training but playing. The fact that you generalized them as "Ash trains x" without going into detail says it all.
But even if we count those play sessions, that still means that Ash trains only once every 5 days. That's not how professionals train at all, professionals train farm more than that. I guess Ash really is a mary sue after all
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>>56372003
>Most of those aren't actual training but playing
New excuses huh
>>56372003
>But even if we count those play sessions, that still means
Ash trained more than any character of the show. You still haven't provided any list of Gladion and Hau's training.
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Ash is gone. He will only be back 10 years from now when need to wheel out his corpse for money.

Thank god. Idiot like him is only good in small doses.
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>>56372123
>N-new excuse
Yeah, that's your latest cope. Seethe harder. Asswiggling is not training.



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