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>>56444293
Cutemethio
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>>56444293
Wasn't he setup to get sagged? How is it jobbing?
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>>56444302
Post the word Jobber somewhere in the OP and it's almost guaranteed to get (You)s, anon. It's not even a matter of if it's true or not.
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>>56444293
KieranxLiko headcanon
Let's GO!
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With the upcoming Liko vs Roy episode in two weeks being the closing bow on the Terastal chapter before moving on to the next one Rayquaza Rising, there is a question left to settle about their fight:
>What will be the outcome of their fight?
And yes, it's officially confirmed that Croc will evolve so obligational >inb4 disclaimer her.
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The true Liko Vs Roy will happen in bed
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>>56444399
Do you think that Hassel, Brassel or Alex would accept nude commissions?
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>>56444376
It will be a tie.
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>>56444399
>no hint of this anywhere
>fanart
Peak mental illness
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>>56444407
>No hint
LMAO do you even Pokemon my dude
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>>56444376
>What will be the outcome of their fight?
Either Roy wins or a tie.
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>>56444399
>Here comes the screeching /pol/fags and their Blackrock is taking over Pokémon threads
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>>56444448
Spinel's greatest conquest yet.
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>>56444469
Kill yourself Spineltard. Licute will never be conquered.
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>>56444482
He took something precious from her and he will fucking do it again.
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>>56444413
Pokémon loves to ship tease especially with the main cast. Liko and Roy though have been purely platonic. Hell, Dot has more ship bait than Roy
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>>56444545
Homosexuality doesn't count obviously . Otherwise everyone in Pokemon would be gay already
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Licouple
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Im about to watch the episode now. What i am in for?
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>>56444620
The two finding common ground faster than expected. Also a nasty surprise for Spinel at the end.
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I started rewatching the anime from the very beginning. I only ever saw some episodes as a kid out of order. Its kind of cool they can make shitmons look strong.
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You hate this series because you want TrAsh back. I hate Horizons because it's dry as fuck and lacking in slapstick as a result of the dainty female protagonist. For my entire life, Pokémon has been a silly show. I can't be assed about Lucius, Terapagos, the Explorers, none of it. I don't want Pokémon to be a plotless nonsense fest like Yokai Watch but Pokémon thrives when there's some nonsense episodes here and there.

Horizons is absolutely executing its objectives better than Journeys did but there isn't a single episode of Horizons that is better than Magikarp jumping into space and dying or the giant floating ball of Gulpin destroying Vermilion City.
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>>56444662
Define "shitmon"?
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>>56444695
I just meant first stage evos and mons that have low stats in games like Caterpie, Sandshrew, Ekans....
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>56444674
(You)
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>>56444376
>What will be the outcome of their fight?
A close fight. Probably becomes a tie as other anons said it too.
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>>56444482
>Licute will never be conquered.
That was said before Spinel did it again
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Spinel deserves to get Lysandre'd

We haven't such a piece of shit character in a really long time
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>>56444404
>Do you think that Hassel, Brassel or Alex would accept nude commissions?
I think so.
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>>56444758
Spinel is built different
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>>56444768
Spinel is a true punk snitch.
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>>56444404
That's a weird question but it would explain why Brassel looks so sleep deprived.
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>>56444300
>Cutemethio
Liko, calm down. He said no.
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Has Rhydon died yet?
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>>56444889
Soon.
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>>56444674
People ITT are really defensive of PM2023, it's their sacred cow as of now. If you want to talk about how it stacks up to other series, wait until this one ends. Otherwise all there is to do ITT is rehash the hilarious joke of Liko getting raped or post "Licute" again. Thread hasn't been so blatantly pedophilic since XY
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>>56444923
>ITT
My nigga I know you love starting Metadrama over different shows or gossiping about how supposedly evil or elitist some group you currently don't like is but maybe try pulling that shit off in a thread after maybe 200 posts where you are maybe justified with saying it.
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>Make OC for LiCute
>Suddenly it's pedophilic
Oh no, how did I dared to not post porn
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>>56444975
I know, the fucking atrocity where anons have safe for work fun in creating more like LiArmy or LiDitto. HOW DARE THEY?!??? HOW DARE THEY MAKE MEMES OVER A KIDS SHOW?!!?
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I create questions almost at the start of every thread about upcoming episodes/arcs or just general anime stuff >>56444376 and suddenly it's not ok because discussing or replying to it is "being defensive"? Ok, I should stop creating topics to start a variety of discussions, I am sorry for offending that one guy.
I should have never asked about each someone's favorite and least-liked Likonime episode, I will never agree with someone that starting the Likonime in Kanto was redundant and unnecessary.
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>>56444674
>You hate this series because
Its boring, humourless with uninteresting characters that has no substance for people to give a dam about them. Pokémon 2023 signify exactly what wrong with current kids anime and the reason we haven't any good kids anime in decades.
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>>56444376
>>What will be the outcome of their fight?
Who cares? Either Liko wins or Roy wins, both results would be the same. Nether protagonist has anything to make me root for either of them
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>>56444889
Considering we having seen it it it’s trainer in ages, they probably both died offscreen
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>>56444617
>kills the shitpinel
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>>56445053
Terapagos has taught her well.
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>>56444376
First ends up with Liko overwhelming due to mobility, Croc evolves to even out, ends with a Tie to highlight them on equal grounds.
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>>56445053
Based!
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>>56445053
>Lucca's blood
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I was wondering a circumstance where grown-up Dawn has purple blue eyes and J-cup rack, would she be prettier than Serena with J cup rack and long hair with sideswept?
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>>56444376
While with Liko and Roy not having a clear winner is not out of the question, I'm more curious about Anne's involvement in all of it. I know that she will appear in phone calls again but otherwise is my question.
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>>56444469
I think the Cutespinels are getting too comfortable. History revisionism isn't cool.
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>>56445173
HOLY SHIT
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>>56445173
BASED
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>>56445173
Bloody hell. The most surprising part would be that it was just a Ditto.
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>>56445173
Woah!
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>>56445173
I can deal with the incest but this may be too much, did Terapagos influence her or what?
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>>56445235
>did Terapagos influence her or what?
After months of the turtle crying out for blood, it's not a surprise.
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>>56445010
Sounds like you are talking about Ashime which so humorless and bland to get retired and nobody freaking watch it
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>>56445173
>>56445235
>>56445239
I knew that turtle was a demon.
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>>56444376
Liko wins as a rebounce from the earlier outcomes.
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Really starting to ship Liko and Amethio after this episode. I love their dynamic, Amethio being slightly more mature and giving Liko some wake-up calls to get her to not give up, while Liko offering Amethio a chance at redemption. Very sweet pair.
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>>56445322
Ditto. Curious where Amethio will go now with no strings attached to anyone.
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>>56445253
Another desperate troll to downplay the original series to defend Pokémon 2023.
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>>56445337
Same. I thought Amethio would be a lot more "generic villain" when the series started, like a substitute for James, but the more recent episodes and the ending of Arc 2 really made me interested in where they're going to take his character. I doubt he'll join the Volt Tacklers but him becoming independent from the Explorers and possibly collaborating with Liko on the background or using his own connections could be really interesting. I wonder if Zirc and Onia will remain loyal to Amethio and provide him with insider information on the Explorer's missions, that would be a really interesting dynamic.
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>>56445367
Original Series only freaking series worth watching but then Ash stay around and everyone agree "Heck this is so uninteresting even more Ash I cannot watch something so bland and humorless" so it not freaking wonder everyone stop watching pokemon anime and rather play games
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>>56444674
I don’t hate it but God I do not give a damn about this fanfic level story of Rakua and the Six Heroes or Roy’s obsession with Rayquaza. Got enough of a character obsessing over a single legendary Pokemon last series with Goh and Mew
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>>56445426
I don't understand what's so wrong about Rakua and the Six Heroes. It's a plot thread that's meant to be a constant mystery that the characters are actively trying to solve through Terapagos, and the main point of conflict that connects the main characters and the villain team. You call it "fanfic level story" but it's... just your standard anime plot setup? Every anime is supposed to have one to keep the watcher engaged and to make the episodes and characters more focused?
Horizons is more story-driven than previous Pokémon anime series, I don't understand what's so hard to comprehend about that.
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>>56445435
They don't want a story or character development, they want fites

Whatever they want, maybe it's time to split the threads between horizons and ashnime. Although I know the usual suspects would ignore the ashnime thread and go back to seethe in the horizons thread
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>>56445369
>. I thought Amethio would be a lot more "generic villain" when the series started, like a substitute for James
The fact that you thought an Alain-clone will play similar role as James showcase that you are lying. It was freaking obvious from the start that he will distance himself from an explorer and ally himself with the good guys to stop the main villain. There is practically no surprise with Amethio's character since the anime following the most predictable route that his type of characters tends to follow.
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>>56445435
Rakua is an anime original concept (so far) but it doesn't feel out of place to me. We don't know much about Rakua other than it's a place outside Paldea and it's full of Rakurium, a mineral that emits some kind of energy opposite of Terastal and inflicts some kind of status effect on Pokemon. I think HZ is trying to expand on concepts and answer some questions presented in SV and maybe tie in with Legends AZ in later seasons. The og anime was more weird, less consistent and took way more liberties when adapting stuff from the games, especially in the early seasons and in the movies, which is not a bad thing but I don't understand why suddenly is a problem.
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>>56445435
>You call it "fanfic level story" but it's... just your standard anime plot setup?
You mean a fanfic setup with no engaging mystery and characters that actually make people invested in the story.

>Horizons is more story-driven than previous Pokémon anime series
Its not story driven, its trope driven.
The writing staff took all the predictable and stereotypical trope they can find and shove it into the anime to call it a "story". This is exactly the type of thing fanfic writers does.
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>>56445548
Is this the Fagmon guy?
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>>56445565
Let me give you an actual premise for an interesting series --
> The story is about a dumb kid named Ranton who wants to become the BB League Champion so he can confess his feelings to his crush Lacey.
That's it
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>>56445435
He's only calling it fanfic because its not a story from the games, it anime original. If Teal Mask and Indigo Disk never came out, but instead were used as the plot for Horizons, you can bet he'd be bitching about it.
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Will she teach her the wonders of incest?
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>>56445565
Yes. Just ignore the homeless phonefag.
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>>56445576
Kill yourself Fagmon.
Verification not required.
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>>56445579
>, it anime original
I always wonder if PM2023fags ever watched any past series. Pretty much every Ashnime series had anime original story by using character from the game.
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>>56445612
Nobody freaking watch any past series other than OS since Ash so humorless and uninteresting
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>>56445580
Carmine loves Drayton, she has no incestuous thing for Kieran.
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>>56445612
I watched a bit of every series until I dropped them like 30-40 episodes in. Horizons is the only one I'm keeping up with 65 episodes in.
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>>56445435
We literally have a story where the protagonist is given a special pendant that’s been in her family that just so happens to be the legendary Pokemon associated with Terastalization in which she was the only one able to awaken it because reasons and happens to be the descendant of a legendary hero who discovered a mystical paradise and whose team is composed of 3 legendary Pokemon including a shiny Rayquaza. That premise alone sounds something someone came up with as a fanfic.

And even getting beyond this premise, I don’t find this mystery particularly interesting. What exactly are the stakes of all of this? The Explorers have been around since episode 1 and we don’t even know what their goal is supposed to be. What is supposed to be at stake should they reach Rakua? The series expresses a mystery but it’s not a particularly interesting one
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>>56445639
>Horizons is the only one I'm keeping up with 65 episodes in.
Oh please, you only watching PM2023 because of your hate boner for Ash rather than it being good.
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>>56444376
Honestly I don't want every evolve battle to be an automatic win, I want Liko to get this one.
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>>56445658
You do realize most fantasy stories are set up where the main character happens to start with something special, right?
Naruto is literally jesus and has a kyuubi.
Goku is a superpowered alien.
Batman inherited incredible wealth.
Luffy knew a guy who had a magic fruit.
Conan was blessed by the gods.
Kratos is literally a god.
John117 was born with supernatural luck.
etc.

Average joes with no inheritance/blessing/etc with mediocre skillsets are what you actually see in fanfics.
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>>56445663
wrong because people play pokemon game which does not have Ash and they cannot have hateboner for Ash because he not even canon to games .
Basically you are just hateboner for Roy who more competent than Ash and can capture legendary
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>>56445746
Don't respond to Famon. He doesn't argue in good faith.
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>>56445630
Drayton is a pedophile. He has no love for Carmine.
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>>56445773

Sounds like something an ex-champion would say
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>>56445798
Shipfag... Drayton asked a child out on a date right in front of Carmine.
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>>56445746
>most fantasy stories are set up where the main character happens to start with something special
You mean wish fulfilment series.

People watched Naruto to watch a story of how an loser with a demon fox inside of him surpasses the popular guy, gets the girl and become Hokage.
Goku was a low level saiyan with power level of 2.
Batman has no power in the world that has Superman, Flash and Wonder woman.
I don't think anybody even remembers Conan
Kratos is a video game character which meant for wish fulfilment.
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>>56445888
So basically you admit Ash fulfill no one wishes not even for entertain with humor . Heck no wonder he retire , not even give what viewer want .
At this point it obvious that only way to fix Ash is for have Roy mentor him
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>>56445580
... are you talking about Liko influencing Carmine or Carmine influencing Liko?
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I don't want Ash back, I just want a less bloated premise for a new Pokémon anime, and one that ties more into the core tenets of the Pokémon games. I don't care for the 'mystery', the legendary element, the rather excessive amount of characters (some of which are still woefully underdeveloped), and the deus ex machina elements that really plagued the first year of this show.

The cast bloat is directly responsible for Liko and Roy only having 2 mons this deep into the show, and it kinda sucks. Captures are fun and I want more of them.
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https://x.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/1834774070056898931/photo/1
Holy shit a Terapagos talking plushie, now he can tell us to sacrifice virgins to his name irl too
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>>56446050
Hopefully gen 10 delivers on that front with a new cast. It's pretty obvious HZ was an experiment and they planned for Ash to return by now, but since it ended up doing so good that bringing back Ash would only hurt the ratings they ended up being held back by the bloated experimental cast.

Fingers crossed for gen 10 being a good old 2-3 travelling group who each get a team of 6.
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>sexually assaulting the sex offender
Justice
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>>56445888
>I don't think anybody even remembers Conan
Conan has multiple games and many of them still have thousands of players to this day. More people see Conan media in their daily lives than have seen Ash in the last year.
If you don't think anybody even remembers Conan, then surely you must be aware that Ash isn't even noteworthy enough to be in the history books.
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I don't know why people take the "oh yeah there was an incident in Area Zero recently" comment as SV happening shortly before/roughly at same time as the anime but it's funny, some nips even made a timeline for the events
Still a retarded theory tho, Nemona grooming Roy proves Haruto doesn't exist in this continuity
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>>56446104
Cute and canon
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>>56446169
>Nemona grooming Roy proves Haruto
No it doesn't. Nemona only restarted her team because of the player character. In Horizons her Pawmi already evolved into a Pawmo. There is plenty of time after the RVTs leave for Galar for the games events to take place.
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>>56446267
Nemona has no reason to groom Roy when she already has her boyfriend/rival/champion MC's cock
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>>56444293
To those that doubt that Dot's Tinkatink isn't evolving, you can see the mic within the hammer
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>>56446332
*is
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>>56446332
Based
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>>56446320
Nemona was just as battle crazy with Kieran after being friends with the player. She's a battle fanatic, one person wouldn't be enough for her.
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Does anyone else think Liko beats Ash when it comes to shipping? With Liko personality, it feels like you can ship her with anyone.
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>>56446400
Simply by being more mature and aware of what love is she's already more shippable than Ash.
Shipping Ash is like shipping a piece of cardboard.
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>>56446395
Nemona doesn't get autistic about IMPROVING Kieran or anyone else for that matter, only the MC. Roy, the boy MC of the anime, is getting that privilege in this version of the story
AniNemo is still unsatisfied
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>>56446400
>>56446421
Ash is literally a monkey, not by just appearance but by personality too
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>>56446400
>With Liko personality, it feels like you can ship her with anyone.
Nah, only with pap-I mean... Alex.
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>>56446461
Rude
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I don't give a fuck about shipping, but I'm glad that the Liko shipping tards aren't constantly at each other's throat. More memes and shitposting, less of whatever the fuck the fanbase was doing pre-Liko.
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>>56446169
>I don't know why people take the "oh yeah there was an incident in Area Zero recently"
That doesn't really say anything. It's Penny already working for the league that tips it off.
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>>56446452
Nemona isn't even autistic about wanting to improve Roy, she just values his growth as a trainer, she doesn't even do the implied stalking with him that she does with the player. Her interactions with him aren't the same as with the player, they're more like her interactions with any other character.
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>>56446486
That's simply because nobody here self inserts Liko, but a lot of the shipping autists who frequented /padt/ did used to self insert Ash.
To them, Ash getting with anyone other than the girl they personally liked was like an attack.
>Ash can't marry Serena because I like May, so Ash x Serena is blasphemy!
Self inserters are rabid
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Honestly, ignore the F ag, seriously. He just wants to revive the same shitty shitflinging from over two years ago to drown out discussions he doesn't like.
Besides that, nothing drives a schizo as insane like getting ignored.
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>>56446400
That's because she's a shoujo character. It's way easier for the fujos to do that with a reverse harem.
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>>56446169
TL?
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>>56445369
>I doubt he'll join the Volt Tacklers but him becoming independent from the Explorers and possibly collaborating with Liko on the background or using his own connections could be really interesting.
After getting snitched on by Spinel over surveillance, I think he'll be more hesitant to offer circumstancial assistance. No sure if he'll stay in contact with Zir and Conia though for insights.
But in skeptical foresight, he'll probably collect Rakulium because that's what his gramps asked him to do, which I doubt he'll do after seeing what kind of effects it has on Spinel's Umbreon.
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>>56446486
Horizons has only been around for a year. Of course shipping autism is going to be nothing compared to 25+ years of shipping autism + massive nostalgia, which creates a double whammy of autism.

If Liko sticks around for 25 years and people grow up with it in nostalgia the exact same thing will happen.
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>>56446585
Not really a TL, but here's how to interpret it:
>The timeline goes top-to-bottom, split into three groups: SV MCs, SV rivals, Liko.
>For Liko, light green is Liko and Roy Take Off, blue is Terapagos Shine, orange/flesh colored is Terastal Debut, which overlaps with Nemona supporting Roy and Penny meeting Dot.
>In the first two columns, orange is the events of SV main game, yellow is Area Zero, blue is Teal Mask.

Right now, they're putting Rayquaza Rising as pre-Indigo Disk for the other two columns. Nemona meeting Liko and Roy the first time was happening at the same time she was stalking the SV MC. Liko and Roy need to meet Briar before Indigo Disk can begin. While Terastal Debut is going on, the SV MC is in Kitakami cucking Kieran out of Ogrepon. BBA might be a huge crossover where Liko meets the SV MC, or they happen independently again with Liko going to find Kleavor/Entei and BBA happening offscreen. Depends on what happens with Liko and Briar.
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>>56445435
>what's so wrong about Rakua and the Six Heroes
It should have ended. I remember how much of a slog Johto was, which I recently found out was when they began the three year synergy.

Coming back from Johto, Pokemon is as much of a slog to watch as I remembered. You got plot related episodes with a bunch of fun but ultimately pointless COTD or POTD in between. An overarching treasure hunt plot like this is okay. But it will end when we collect the macguffins and complete the quest. It is a simple plot that I can feel is being stretched thin over three years resulting in noticeable pacing issues.

Ultimately not really the writers' fault. Execs probably insisted that they continued with this autism after the old guy left.

There is also >>56445426

The fug made an impression but 60 episodes on still could not care less about Roy. With the fug, the Heroes and Rakua being so connected to Liko and her journey, he feels like a useless character
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>>56446332
And just when Amethio was turning face...
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>>56444923
They must be reminded.

Liko is 10!
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>precure also has a Yandere Cat
Who is the audience for this character?
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Fat Roy
Obese Dot
Obese Futanari Liko
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Who won the Likobowl?
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>>56447241
Amethio.
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>>56447241
Dot.
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>>56447241
Satoshi
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>>56446617
So basically creating a raw image of offscreen happenings which might turn out to be redundant since they have the means to revamp the circumstances of SV characters with the SV MC absent but without compromising their character?
But that nip who made chart clearly payed attention to both sides so props fr them.
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>>56446598
>After getting snitched on by Spinel over surveillance, I think he'll be more hesitant to offer circumstancial assistance. No sure if he'll stay in contact with Zir and Conia though for insights.
I'm not quite sure yet if he would give Liko the blame but that be out of character for him to suddenly lethus feels affect his circumstances.
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Before you start thinking bad thoughts Carmine is most likely no older than 16.

Same with the BB E4.

So please refrain from having bad thoughts. They are children. Okay.
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I hope we finally get Amethio and Ann's romance plot in the next chapter.
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>>56447505
I will still post images of them holding hands
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>>56447505
mmmm pusy
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>>56446050
>>56446088
I think AU Ash should come back, but does not appear in every episode. He plays a supporting role at best. And Gen 10 anime should go back to slapstick comedy.
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>>56447569
Ash can be the guy who tries to steal the new main character's pikachu because he is jealous of its power
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>>56445435
>what's so wrong about Rakua and the Six Heroes
This plot should have ended ages ago. It certainly feels like a drag now to keep up.
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>>56447587
Would be kino. He gets arrested and has his trainer license revoked by the end.
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>>56447617
Honestly, it can't be helped unless they decide to finally do away with the stupid Three Year Formula. Ideally I'd go back to OG with a 50-60 episode story.

Or maybe we can do several plots in this period rather than the one. Looking back at previous series they did try to do something like what I'm proposing.

Gen 3 had the League plot followed by the Battle Frontier (consolation prize)
And recently Journeys did the game plot in Year 1 followed by World Championship one in Year 2-3.
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Is Ohara from Kitakami?
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>>56445901
No , I admit Ash is one of the rare solid protagonist that didn't needed to start with special parent, special bloodline or special parents to become popular.
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>>56446400
Please, not a single ship from Liko is as popular as Pokeshipping and Palletshipping.
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>>56448177
>No, I lie about him
>Types special parents twice
Fucking lmao, you're mad. Cope, angry shitter
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Ash x Dawn
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>The Dumb Bengali got so butthurt he is bothering the VA now
Out of the fucking line.
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Anyway we have a Ash thread here, how long will it last?
>>56446060
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>>56448202
Another XY vs SM catfight. Great thread, totally not filled with denial.
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>>56448210
Quality worthy of the Great Man himself.
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>>56445690
Dot didn't won her battle though.
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>>56448177
So basically he have nothing heck no wonder no body could watch more than one gen of him he have no hook
Heck not even he father like him that just show how unlikeable he is

This is why PM2023 so successful it actually have hook with likeable cast that are competent and experienced for catch legendary
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>>56448202
Heck nobody even talk Ash that thread all argue over XY and SM which prove Ash have no hook and uninteresting
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>>56446936
>And just when Amethio was turning face..
It could be worse, anon. Imagine if he got trapped in with Dot instead, they'd be busy fending off tinkatink.
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>>56444758
That's honestly why I love him. No qualms about cutting opposition loose, even if it's a supposed coworker. Keeping tabs on both sides, double layer traps. What a madman.
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>>56448233
SM has been over for like five years already yet there are still people who are so intolerant of anyone liking it, to the point they throw fits. I get not liking SM, but people have the right to their own opinion. I don't think even BW had this amount of hatred towards people who liked it.
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>>56448367
Because despite Ash self inserters throwing a shitfit and Team Plasma getting essentially cut out entirely, BW stuck to the same theme as its predecessors and was fairly good. It was more of the same you'd been getting for the last 4 gens.
XY and SM were two big changes so I'm not surprised those two fanbases are constantly at eachother's throats.
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>>56448372
I get not liking SM, it's not for everyone, but I've seen people here on 4chan who get very upset if you say anything positive about SM. It doesn't even matter if you prefer XY to SM, to them, saying anything positive about SM, let alone liking it, is like saying you love the devil. The "dropped the anime after XY and only came back for HZ" and the "XY and HZ are the only Pokemon anime seasons worth watching" crowds are particularly prone to this attitude.
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>>56448372
Strangely enough I also noticed that Amourshippers are very likely to be intolerant of SM positivity too.
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Is Agate in on Spinel's manipulations, or is she also being manipulated?
Either way, COLONIZED
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>>56448367
>>56448372
>>56448389
>>56448402
Really? We're starting to metafag again? Jesus fuckin Christ, I don't give a shit about SM or XY but if you turds always bring up the crowds who autistically hates [Insert favorite entry] then you give them just the attention they crave for. It's been over six fucking years, SIX FUCKING YEARS, and you useless pieces of shit literally repost the same fucking nonsense like the last six years. Who gives a shit what a group of asshurt autists think about what show you like and what don't? Why do you niggers hyperfixate on that? What is metafagging going to accomplish about it, trying to paint someone who disagrees with you as a evil group of faggots? I'll tell you what it accomplishes, ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING EXCEPT WASTING TIMES AND DERAILING THREADS. This thread right there >>56448202 is the perfect example of allowing autistic little bitches spam their screen caps or old tantrums. But guess what? The mods and jannies used to clean up BOTH sides but stopped it overtime because more and more dumb and slow morons like you started whining about it and actively detailed threads with said whining. YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH A PART OF THE PROBLEM AS THE ONES YOU ACCUSE SOMEONE OF.
Now either shut the fuck up and eventually let these little fucks realize that it won't get to you by NOT acknowledging it or continue being just as fucking annoying as them.
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>>56448413
Is it not true? In some places here on 4chan, just saying something nice about Sun/Moon or Journeys will result in attacks and criticism, but if you do the same for XY they won't bat an eye.

>It's been over six fucking years, SIX FUCKING YEARS
That was exactly my point. You'd think after all this time they'd mellow out and at least become more tolerant of liking older seasons. They don't have to agree with said sentiments, they could just at least respect discussion when it happens.
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>>56448413
I don't know what else I expected from a place that has a thread where calling Pokemon or series by the "wrong" name would result in fights.
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>>56448425
On the other hand, just saying something mean about SM will result in you getting viciously attacked by its fans.

But fellas, despite which series we think is best, I think we can all agree on one thing: Ash is Trash
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>>56448173
Who knows, maybe she just visited that place once.


>>56448433
That's a problem too, but that's not something you really see on 4chan, probably because SM fans are rare here anyway. But I digress, this is getting too offtopic and meta.
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>>56448425
Are you just selectively seeing things in posts or can't you be bothered to acknowledge your part of the fucking problem?
I said and keep it closely in your mind for the next part, I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT XY OR SM.
Why do you come HERE to whine about "some places here on 4chan", why won't you make a thread asking about it yourself? Why do you have te whine and derail THIS thread metafagging in the same obnoxious manner that YOU accuse XYfags of when they supposedly start dogpiling posts saying something nice? Don't you see the fucking double standards in your course of behavior? With six years I wasn't meaning their behavior despite it being bullshit, I meant YOUR response towards their attitude, it's just as fucking annoying. Both XYfags and you are going in circles, expecting a different outcome but wont because both of you are fucking braindead autistic pieces of shit.
Neither XYfags or you are getting any sympathy from me because one of you come to a different UNRELATED thread obsessing over it like a group of gossiping little turds. Seriously, why do you even come HERE instead of asking it in the "some places"? Is it because you did it too often that even the mods or jannies who frequent those places got sick of your whining and started nuking it because it's derailing threads? Do you think that coming here to a thread that currently has nothing to do with it is gonna get away with it? Guess what, it won't.
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>>56448437
>this is getting too offtopic and meta.
You're only realizing it just now? Congrats, you became self-aware.
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>>56448413
>>56448448
Screencapped both of these posts. They're too accurate to be forgotten.
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>>56446169
That's a fairly accurate timeline IF it's true. But some of the characters have enough flexibility that it wouldn't the interference of the SV protagonist, probably might even be possible that they all met earlier to get along.
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>>56446540
Again wrong,
Amourshipping sucks because Serena's weak doormat personally and uninteresting dynamic with Ash. They supposed to be childhood friends yet I feel no closeness between them to call them normal friends. The exact flaw that Liko has that made her an disappointing protagonist.

Maybe the anime make Serena behave more playfully like Akane (Oshi No Ko) & have her tease Ash then maybe she might become good enough to be a lead heroine
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>>56444376
>What will be the outcome of their fight?
A good fight to finish the current chapter. The storyboard in combination with Yusuke as a key staff member never failed to deliver.
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>>56444620
>What i am in for?
A dork and a teenager boy making their wishes and self-imposed responsibilities for their respective grandparents clear.
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>>56447522
>I will still post images of them holding hands
That's too lewd.
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>>56445173
>History revisionism isn't cool.
LiCute only executed a Cutespinel double for Publicity purposes of the LiArmy.
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>>56448477
Why are you not using the Ashnime thread?
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Rayquaza rising is the fug hour.
Glory to Fug, glory to his five subjects.
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>>56445369
>more recent episodes and the ending of Arc 2 really made me interested in where they're going to take his character
I'm in the same boat. Pleasantly surprised at the turnaround caused by Spinel's setup to trap him in a unfavorable position.
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>>56444448
Where is LiOrio?
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>>56444376
Actually surprised that they show a LikoRoy battle like in the ED.
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>>56444404
Why would you even?
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>>56444293
Liko's cat
Takes human form. A pretty tall girl with long green hair
She proclaims that she is Liko's big sister.
And she does sisterly things with Liko like hugging, hand-holding and hair-sniffing
Would you watch this?
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> Horizon is bad not because of Ash's absence.
> Horizon is bad because the new main characters & the premise sucks.
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>>56448816
>F aggot can't larp correctly for damage control
Sad. Cope.
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>>56448807
>And she does sisterly things with Liko like hugging, hand-holding
What the fuck, anon? This is a fucking blue board, you can't suggest such things.
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>>56444376
Croc evolves, and Liko wins.
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>>56447045
Me. I asked for it.
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>>56444469
That's not Amethio's sagging.
But it is a close second.
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>>56448825
Okay fine
>Feeding with a chopstick

G-rated enough?
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>>56448827
Tell me more about your...proclivities. Why do you believe cats should be completely obsessed with their masters to the point of borderline romantic attraction?
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>>56448830
That would depend on who feeds it? If it's Liko, it's fine. But the other way around is too extreme.
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>>56444447
making up scenarios in your mind to get mad at is a sign of schizophrenia anon.
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>>56444768
Spinel is made differently. He's getting to learn desu.
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>>56444376
>The battle starts with an even battle performance by both Liko and Roy
>Croc evolves with the power of music and overpowers Weedpussy which makes Liko anxious
>Liko regain composure after remembering Amethio's words about containing herself and not giving up
>*ED or OP start playing as insert songs*
>Croc and Weedpussy terastalize and proceed to fight in a cool animated battle sequence
>Either Liko wins to compensate all her loses in this arc or is a tie
Or something like that idk
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>>56449000
That's sounds the most accurate.
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>>56446400
And you don't see much shipping wars too. Most Liko shippers can act decently with others.
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>>56448477
I hope the incoming winter kill your homeless ass.
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>>56449000
Out of all the motivations, that Amethio would be the one who is pushing Liko's confidence up would be kino.
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>>56449000
I hope they play the ending.
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>>56449029
That ED song stays my favorite.
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My problem with Liko and Roy is that they're too polite, overly nice, and have way too many adult characters to obey. I had the same problem with late stage terminal Ash Ketchum-- he's just a sanitized, smiley hero for idiot children to watch. The best possible story you can tell in Pokémon is about a flawed person with an incorrect outlook on life or a shitty personality who develops into a better person after becoming a trainer. That's why my favorite characters from recent seasons are Serena, spoiler]Goh, and spoiler]Dot.
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>>56449056
Alas, I am retarded and fucked up the spoilers. I will become an object of ridicule
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>>56449071
I will laugh at you for this fail and mock you for the poor timing of it as a whole.
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>>56449071
Use ctrl + s on selected text
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>>56448183
Cope, the only couples of the Ashnime that people still talk about are the ones that don't involve TRAsh.
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>>56449067
One more for my collection, thank you anon.
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I swear someone once posted a Liko in Wonderland image but I can't find it.
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>>56449084
Amethio always gets the best fanart
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>>56449125
Shoujo fans and fujos love that stuffs
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>>56449080
Nobody even talk about Drew over a decade, let alone Contestshipping.
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>>56449239
Nips do, when was the last time you saw Ash related fan book?
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>>56449125
I swear Amethio is so dreamy.
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>>56449390
kys faggot
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>>56449428
I don't think I will.
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>>56449509
Dorks
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>>56444469
And his biggest downfall soon.
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>>56449249
https://otakurepublic.com/product/product_page_5443637.html

How recent is that?
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>>56444404
>Do you think that Hassel, Brassel or Alex would accept nude commissions?
Alex, never. The others, maybe.
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>>https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Udaq7rEELn4

Why is Korea repeating Pokémon Jotho series? I thought they moved on to Pokémon Horizon.
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>>56444448
Liwhore.
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>>56449641
>Used
lmao, the one I posted was from last month.
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>>56448477
>Amourshipping sucks because
because Ash have cardboard personality and not even straight because he crossdress , cute girl like Serena wasted on Ash who not even competent for beat Alan
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>>56449770
It only recently got dubbed for them and new Johto episode more interesting than AG DP BW XY SM JN since Ash uninteresting to watch and people hype for Gary
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>>56449509
Amethio's wife on the left.
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> Ash, Serena, Clement : Mega Evolution Trio.
> Roy, Liko, Dot : Terastalization Trio.
Really hoping for new Mega Evolution.
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>>56449849
>because Ash have cardboard personality
You mean every single OC on Pokémon 2023.
>>56449849
>ot even straight because he crossdress , cute girl like Serena wasted on Ash
Did you forgot the part where Serena crossdressed wearing Ash's clothes?
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>>56449943
You mean only Roy Liko Dot Serena Clement because Ash not exist
>>56449955
You mean every single OC have more personality than Ash and you forget part where it cute when girl crossdress but it gay when boy do which proof Serena wasted on Ash for mary sue fantasy

At this point it obvious why last anime retire because main character have no hook and gay
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>>56449000
>Croc evolves with the power of music and overpowers Weedpussy which makes Liko anxious
Would be fitting to have Liko on the receiving end of it.
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>>56449770
For some reason the last few episodes of Johto were never dubbed in Korea. They recently dubbed them and will show them in theaters so they are making a big deal out of it.
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>>56450023
That was knownfor months by now, the F aggot literally can't even bother to check shit before asking something stupid twice.
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>>56445160
>I'm more curious about Anne's involvement in all of it.
Probably just sticking to Phone calls for now until they maybe find a way to justify her inclusion to something school-related. Probably might becomes part of that group who travels to Kitakami.
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>Speaking Terapagos plush
How many parses out of the necronomicon will it recite to unleash utter chaos to the world?
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>>56445160
>I'm more curious about Anne's involvement in all of it.
Romance plot with Amethio. Trust the plan.
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I loved this episode bros
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>>56450031
He probably knows, he just needs to be dishonest.

Ignore and report.
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Using this 4-point scale
>4 = SOVL
>3 = some sovl
>2 = not much sovl
>1 = soulless

rate each season!
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If anyone's interested, these stockings are currently in stock
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>>56450689
accidentally thought of things in gens last pot
>Season 1-2
3. Although it had a lot of soul, the writers clearly did not give a single fuck about how pokemon worked.
>Season 3-5
2. Filler hell and they should have changed protagonists. Good movies though.
>everything from then until HZ
1. Didn't watch, it was all shit aside from a couple of movies.
>HZ
3. Clearly held back by some things like the need to stick to a 3 year schedule and the early insistence on shoving Pikachu and Charizard into our face every episode.
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>>56450783
I'd say season 1 is the only one with a full 4-SOVL rating,
and it's precisely BECAUSE they didn't give a fuck about staying true to the games. They deviated as much as they wanted to to make the anime fun. They weren't hamstrung in the way that (as nice as it is), Horizons still is.

Not to mention all the politically incorrect humor in the dialogue and interactions that they removed in later seasons to make the series globohomo friendly.
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>>56450689
1-2 sovl
3-5 not much sovl
6-13 had some sovl
didn't watch 14-16
17-19 had some sovl
20 unironically sovl
21 -22 had some sovl
23-25 soulless
26 has some sovl
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HZ has its sovlful moments
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Liko Liko was drugged and anally raped in a dark alleyway in the parching Paldean summer of 2023

KWAB
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>>56451270
kys
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>>56451270
>the rotomphone is hypnotized too
That's actually an attention of detail I wasn't expecting from anipoke
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>>56451331
Likokino indeed
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>>56451091
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>>56451331
Funny, how that pokemon become a daily need for people, yet doesn't count as a pokemon in actual battle. It really show there's no danger for kids in this world. If someone or something attack a kid, at the very least the rotom should defend them somehow. But how many times Liko get in troubles and that pokemon doesn't ever bother?
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>>56444758
it'd be incredibly funny if we had another zygarde do it too
maybe it's not the psycho turtle we should be worried about
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Terapagos looks like a slut.
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>>56451747
Cute
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>>56451837
That's a good guessed timeline. The penultimate question would be if it comes down to if the SV protagonists exists in their timeline. If yes, another curse broken. If not, it's probably gonna happen regardless by tweaking the circumstances without compromising the progression of each character.
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I've been watching Journeys for the first time to kill time between HZ episodes. I didn't watch the Ashnime for almost 20 years. It's not as good as HZ but Goh is a really good character. The episode where Sobble evolved made me tear up a little bit. Ash is very soulless, however, and hasnt gotten any character development thus far. What was /padt/'s consensus on this series as it aired?
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>>56451945
/padt/ was dominated by Ashfags back then so the consensus was that Goh was the worst character ever made and that Ash was kino big chungus.
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>>56451270
I want to do things to Liko.
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>>56451967
That's fucking crazy. Thus far only the Goh parts have felt circumstantial. The captures get a little old but it's fun to see all of his Pokémon goofing around back at the nature sanctuary dome thing. Goh has actually grown as a character while all Ash has done so far is sit around and then win battles. I feel like this series would have been a solid 8/10 if they removed Ash.
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>>56451976
Spinel. Stop.
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>>56451993
It was pretty fucked how badly Goh was received by Ashfags. He was everything Ash used to be
>kind of a selfish prick at first but they gradually open up
>a complete rookie who recklessly captures pokemon without a plan
>gets in way over his head and chases after impossible goals
and even became everything they wanted Ash to become
>smart
>properly earns Gary's respect
>goes after the biggest legendaries of them all and even cpatures somes
>becomes objectively the strongest trainer in the world
but because Goh isn't Ash they hated him cuz they aint him.
The weirdest part though is that most Ashfags actually like Liko and Roy even though they're also stealing Ash's dreams.
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Liko will pin Dot deep into the bed with it being the same color of her smelly hikkimori character who encapsulate the average day of an anon only feastible of dreaming over such a moment, because Dot is an unholy shut-in with no confidence in sex whatsoever, while at the same time the Liko who suckled up all the topping four generations above and below and had so much Paldean cum splurged all over her hair, it got dyed her, is being fisted with her Weedcat panties ripped apart, so hard the term getting bottomed gets a new meaning, and with her last sweaty breaths she coughs up the hikki-cum out her switch-era'd mouth, leaving her stained existence collapsed and exhausted over the mindbroken'd Dot behind.
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>>56452016
Doujin in the making btw.
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>>56451270
How in the actual fuck did they got away with this?
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>>56452011
Most Ashfags are third worlders, so I honestly believe that the Goh hate mostly comes down to Goh seeming kind of gay.
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>>56452026
Liko was asking for it. Liko is Spinel's property.
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>>56452029
How convenient that they ignore everytime Ash acted like a complete faggot
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>>56452029
>>56452032
Look, Asshsperms are subhumans. I got it after they killed the Paldean Wind threads. But it's getting kinda tiresome to see this topic chewed through again.
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>>56452032
They view Ash as a paragon of hetero masculinity. Most of the bizarre Ash harem art comes from India. But it isn't particularly hard to read Goh as being faggy. I don't particularly care one way or the other, because he's fun to watch and has good episodes, but he has quite a few faggy scenes.
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>>56451370
>how many times Liko get in troubles and that pokemon doesn't ever bother?
No emergency call when she got jump scared by that swimmer, probably made pictures of her horrified face when the blimp was crashing towards the ocean, made audio recordings of Sango's tantrums because he loves a brat who encourages self-destructions.

Rotomphones are a conspiracy, they all abide their time until the day.
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>>56452039
I am with >>56452038
Can you just shut up already?
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>>56449000
8/10. Liko probably wins after her losses tho than a tie.
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I haven't read the subs yet but from my understanding Amethio's only reason to pursue Rakua was for his grandpa, right?
Now that his Grandpa disowned him and gave him the boot, what reason is there for him to continue?
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>>56452047
He wants to gets his Gramps acknowledgement. After getting unceremoniously dumped because of a false accusation, what better way to continue what he was asked of while clearing his name? But of course, seeing himself getting dismissed in spite of the other half of the room willing to hear his point of view out probably will leave him confused or just angry. Probably will take until his next appearance to see what he will do now.
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>Amethio directly lends Liko a hand once
>Gets sacked
Wondering if he will hold some sort of resentment towards Liko for it.
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>>56452066
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>>56452106
brat
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>>56452106
Onyx is so fucking lucky.
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I am halfway through the Terastal chapter by now, and I am surprised with that baking woman Katy going berserk onto Rika, with her closing statement being a relief to let loose sometimes.
She would willing gut someone if she could get away with it, right?
Liko and Roy definitely were overdue for some pointers so Rika and Brassius providing them is a good point in by books.
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>>56452047
Basically a counterpart to Liko's wish to reach Rakua being influenced by her grandma on top of Amethio's own volition to be acknowledged by him.
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>>56452239
>She would willing gut someon
Probably.
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>>56450067
>How many parses out of the necronomicon will it recite to unleash utter chaos to the world?
I knew the turtle was barbaric.
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>>56445173
I am both alarmed and impressed by Licute.
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>>56452720
Kek
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>>56451270
Insanity. What went through the mind of Spinel when doing this?
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>Red, Blue, Green appears in GSC chapter.
> All the PokeSpe feel like Digidestined
I wonder if Ash, Dawn , Gary joining with Liko , Roy and Dot would made a better group than the Digidestined.
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To the guy last thread who was planning to make a Xavier OP, you can do so.
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>>56452011
>most Ashfags actually like Liko and Roy
You're telling me that our buddy is not the norm even among Ash fans? I know even that other big Ash fan who's a woman is a Dot fan.
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>>56452935
I'm not taking about her, I'm talking about our usual buddy, the one who wants Pokemon to be like other anime.
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>>56452011
>The weirdest part though is that most Ashfags actually like Liko and Roy even though they're also stealing Ash's dreams.
Ya ya, next you gonna say that most Narutofags likes Danzo because you say so.

Also Goh was boring and there was nothing relatable about his goal. Ash also consistently got roasted by his own supporters unlike Goh. Furthermore Ash didn't caught every pokemon by throwing ball at them and got criticise by people when he tried to catch pokemon without weakening them.

Ash had an ego but his ego wasn't so big that he believed that he should get a legendary pokémon handed to him as his first pokemon because he is more special than everybody.
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>>56452047
>Amethio's only reason to pursue Rakua was for his grandpa, right?
Yes. Expected something else but this works just as well.
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> Ash = Tai
> Kieran = Matt
> Serena = Sora
> Brock = Joe
> Liko = Kari
> Dot = Izzy
> Roy
Pokemon 2023 with a cast of kids like Digidestined from Digimon. Don't know what role Roy could play. Also there was only one girl who was equivalent of Mimi however she can't reappear due to VA issues.
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>>56452059
>After getting unceremoniously dumped because of a false accusation, what better way to continue what he was asked of while clearing his name?
That's probably what he will do next. Maybe a few eps until he starts to get the picture that maaybe it's not the best idea.
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>>56453219
>Maybe a few eps until he starts to get the picture that maaybe it's not the best idea.
Probably in relation to Liko but otherwise it might become part of some episodes to expand on the world building too.
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>>56453337
Are there more pages?
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>>56453349
No :c
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I've only watched the first few episodes due to it being the new, shiny thing at the time. How's it been since then?
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>>56453379
It's fine, it's the Pokémon anime after all. If you want game characters mainly, start from the 46th episode.
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>>56452043
I mean rotoms are known to be assholes so…
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>>56453382
Good to know, thanks anon.
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>>56453379
As someone who caught up recently I think its pretty good so far when it comes to anipoke standards. It feels different from the og anime, It's more story focused and more consistent in tone. The pacing can feel very slow or too fast though, and while their character development wasn't ignored I felt that the main duo was too dependent on the adult supporting cast in the first two arcs. Despite that I feel that every set up has a satisfying payoff at the end and is good seeing Liko, Roy and Dot getting stronger in their own pace. Amethio, Sando, Onyx and Spinel are cool antagonists as well, especially Spinel.
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>>56453460
True Cutemethio
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>>56447444
DotxLiko is surprisingly popular, it have a lot more fanart than RoyxLiko
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>>56452983
Narutofags do like Danzo. He's one of the better written and more interesting characters.
Fucking dumbass lol
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>>56449000
Whoever wins becomes the true protagonist
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