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Come here for talk about all things Pokemon Mystery Dungeon.

Previous thread: https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/56439655 (>>56439655)

PMD Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/tr8i1aiQ#AWzqkesoNSeSUGjHSug5dw

PMD Fangames Catalog: https://mega.nz/folder/QuYRBJAL#JhfXAuBdsZhQ_7jeIslqHQ
Romhacks Overview/Reviews: https://rentry.org/pmdglph

PMD Guides: https://pastebin.com/Dbq61R5u
Explorers of Sky Romhacking Guide: https://rentry.org/skytempleguide

Everything about the Clover Guild: https://cloverguild.com
Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/dh6fflg8yb
Mobile Drawing Board: https://magma.com/d/h_wcz5f4px
Drawing Request: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic

Questions:
>If every Pokemon species was an option, what would be the worst PMD partner to have?
>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?
>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
>What is your favorite town theme?
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Recap of the previous thread:

Stories by Suicune-Anon
>https://rentry.org/Arc-101
>https://rentry.org/Arc-102
>https://rentry.org/Arc-103
>https://rentry.org/Arc-104
>https://rentry.org/Arc-201

>Petal-Purr-anon's entry to the Summer Festival collab was posted: https://rentry.org/PetalpurrFestivalMain

>Discussion about gameplay/gamemechanics, storytelling, and music

Also, we're still working on a drawboard dedicated to fulfilling requests from our request page (https://rentry.org/CloverDrawRequest). Submit new requests here: https://rentry.org/DrawReqPublic
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>>56483764
>>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?
eh, probably something primitive or whatever. isn't that much underwater
>>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
probably by types
>>What is your favorite town theme?
post town hits pretty hard for me
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>>56483764
>>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?
maybe neat little coral towns or stuff like that.
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>>56483765
I genuinely forgot those Suicune stories were part of the last thread. If you're still here anon, stop whatever you're working on
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>>56484491
based hater anon
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>>56484150
Cute!!
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>>56483764
>have probably over 200 hours total from all my different runs on my explorers of time copy
>completed the game multiple times
>decide to play explorers of sky for the first time after hacking my 3ds
>get to the postgame
>shaymin part happens

Bros please dont tell me im forced to go trough this mountain to progress the story, please i just want to do the blizzard island part first so i can unlock all the cool pokemon there i dont want to be railroaded into this oh god why did nobody warn me
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>>56485175
choo choo motherfucker
the mountain isn't THAT long.
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>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmbj9zJHka0
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>>56484491
Still in disbelief someone genuinely thought a Suicuine and a Lugia would slide. They didn’t even TRY to go for one of the more mundane ones.
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>If every Pokemon species was an option, what would be the worst PMD partner to have?
Probably one of the stench mons. I can carry a dead weight mon but good god would I have a hard time with the stench.
>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?
Decorated with lots of coral and using regular elements of the seafloor as houses or furniture, kinda like in The little mermaid
>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
I think some level of segregation is unavoidable especially between the Pokémon that display migratory behaviour, as they would keep to themselves because outside bonds could get complicated when it's time to migrate. Even if one member of a migration group was fine with staying behind and never evolving, him leaving would effectively weaken the group as a whole, which would be frowned upon.
>>56485467
I think a major event where a baby Lugia ends up in the guild and needs to be escorted back to the ocean by a group of misfits could be fun, but it's a Suicune too...
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Excuse me, but why is this blatant pornographic image of Cider's mom (Beast's wife) plastered all over the anonymous image board known as 4chan? This is a blatant invasion of privacy!
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well the page is being drawned but i am excited for the upcoming best month of the year and i am so excited actually that i want to propose something !!!!
if you have a 2 sentence horror idea in a 2 case horror stories involving the guild character propose them to me and i'll compile them for the challenge.
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>>56485788
I feel like any legendary pokemon showing up in the guild should be an event. Not just some little tacked on addition to someguy's faggoty legendary OC
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>>56486091
I’m not sure what you mean. Are you taking requests for horror themed artwork?
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>>56486091
>in a 2 case horror stories
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>>56486197
pardonner mon anglais, what i mean is yeah i take some short horror idea for the month of october, i want to try and do 1 per day

>>56486204
2 case/2 panel yes
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>>56486091
>>56486530
something to do with cynda because I love how you draw him
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>>56486091
>>56486963
This has probably been done before and I just haven't seen it, but
>Here lies Cyndaquil.
>He never scored.
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>>56486091
>On Halloween Night, Chespin and Wooper went trick or treating
>They knocked on the door of an old abandoned home and a chiller answered
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Has anyone here managed to clear all 4 of the Never Hungries dungeons?
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Are you all still looking for new idiots to join in? I stumbled upon this general about a year ago I think, got inspired, read some stories, and begin to write my own. Then I got stuck, gave up and never came back. I suck at creative writing and my visual art skills never really evolved past the Crayola phase. However, for whatever reason this thread has lived rent-free in my head ever since. I’ve felt inspired recently and was considering giving it another go. It seemed like you guys had a nice thing going last I was here. Think I should give it another go? Hopefully I won’t fail you like I did last time.
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>>56489436
What do you mean "fail us"? Did you ever post anything?
If you actually appreciate clover for what it is you have no reason not to post your work, wips, or even just your ideas.
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>>56489436
>I suck at creative writing
The fact that you can say that about yourself tells me you're probably better than most writers
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WHAAAAT? you TOOK MY BANANAS and GAVE THEM AWAY TO THE GUILD?!! NOTHING gets my ROCKS OFF more than BANANAS BEING STOLEN! spending months growing BANANAS that one day will be TAKEN from me WITH NO PUNISHMENT ON THE RECIPIANT?! SIGN ME THE FUCK UP!
Oh, the sheer PLEASURE of giving CLOVER GUILD my hard-earned bananas only to have them NOT REPAY ME while I SLEEP OUTSIDE? I LOVE IT! I LOVED when Cyndaquil pulled my bananas from my neck and ATE IT in front of me! Who needs to keep a banana they GREW? NOT ME! The sheer THRILL of losing something I grew just because they felt like snacking is comparable to PURE ECSTASY!
Who needs bananas when I can be an ETERNAL KEK to the guildies? They understand the JOY of exploitation! And OH, the absolute ORGASM of HAVING A BALD NECK and agreeing to get FUCKED OVER and OVER EVERY TIME due to the GUILD RULES? YABBA DABBA DOO!
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https://rentry.org/greatbulk12
I've come with a story once again, and this time, it's a crossover. I hope you all enjoy it.
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>>56489762
Holy shit, keep crying bro. Your bananas taste good
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>>56484491
>>56484761
>>56485467
I'm gonna play devil's advocate here.

Yes, the fact that it's not just one, but two major legendaries is fucking egregious and reeks of special snowflake OC disorder, regardless of how "Not OP" that anon thinks they can write them.
My question is, if you're trying so hard to make them "not too OP", then why the fuck are they even legendaries in the first place?

I propose that anon change the species of his two characters to actual normal pokemon, and change nothing else about his stories.

I liked his stories when I was able to not be reminded that it's a Suicune and a Lugia.
I think he has real potential if he came back and literally just swapped the species to something like a a Ducklett and a Stoutland.
Literally any other regular pokemon, dude. That's all it would take.
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You guys are just jealous you didn't think or have the courage to use legendaries first. Just admit he won and move on. He's legendary and you're not.
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>>56483764
>What do you think underwater cities developed by marine Pokemon would be like?
Just normal houses underwater

>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
Don't we see that happen (by species) in the games sometimes? Generally I would say no though

>What is your favorite town theme?
Unsure between Pokemon Square and Post Town
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>>56490001
If they're so good, you should be willing to fucking reimburse the poor guy. maybe if you did, he'd be able to afford a decent place to live.
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>>56490269
The best defense for these stories is "if you completely changed your characters it probably wouldn't suck"
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>>56490737
I don’t know, half the appeal of PMD is having starters take down powerful mons and gods. Is it really a win to rob your own characters of that by making them legendaries?
This appeal is most likely why the Iron Valiant character got put on a bus. Half the fun is the underdog overcoming the challenge, not two powerhouses duking it out.
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>>56490269
it's also not about being 'OP' and shit, powerscaling is stupid and shouldn't ever be taken seriously, toriyama made it as a literal joke. It's more about the characters acting like they're normal underdogs when they're clearly not, it's not how you write characters like these, you either go all in on the power fantasy and write as what the species are or make a different character. A Lugia and Suicune that are 'weak' will never work because it's dissonant and tone deaf, it's not like god-like characters can't have character growth or anything, but my main issue with those stories is the characters acting as something they're not which goes back to the whole species thing and missing the point of them being what they are. subversivekino is much harder to write
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>>56490737
No, we definitely thought about it for a long time. We just understood it was a retarded idea
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>>56483764
>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
I bet there are lots of places that wind up majority-[type] thanks to geography. Not a lot of grass types would want to live on Blizzard Island, no Ice types would want to live near Mt. Blaze, etc.
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>>56490867
No way. He can grow them for free. Besides, if we don't eat them, they'll just rot and fall off eventually. We should pick them while they're ripe
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>>56483764
>Do you think certain Pokemon would segregate themselves by types or by species?
yeah, not a single normal type wants to live in the same neighborhood as a dark type
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>>56489802
KINOOOOOOOOOOO
Mama Lax's Inn is a severely underrated setting, and it works so well with your characters. Makky trying to justify not admitting he's a human was very interesting to read. He trusts Asana enough to admit he's clearly lying but it has to hurt Asana that he won't just tell the truth outright. Jung's characters in this chapter work very well, it's nice seeing him in writing after all this time. The fight scene was done very well too, both parties seemed to be underestimating each other nonstop.
Amazing work anon! Highly recommend this story
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>>56489802
Adding to >>56493475's analysis, the parallels/roll-reversal between Lombre's situation in the past and Makky&Asana's situation in the present are great, even if it's unlikely anyone will ever notice them in-universe.
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i really wish i was at rajshahi indian restaurant right now...
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>>56491053
I shelved the Iron Valiant character because I made him when I was in a bad headspace and tried to drag my heels on making it work.

Whether he still exists or not is entirely based on how much anyone cares for the concept, and the same goes for any other I made prior to Team Fangclaw.
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>>56492788
have you ever thought maybe HE wants to eat them himself when they ripen and fall off?

Should a man not be entitled to the fruits of his own labor??
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another secret bump, but of different characters this time
And also I guess fan art for Toge's festival story
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>>56489762
The hell happened to this post on the booru
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>>56496983
Nothing happened. You're imagining things.
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>>56497022
Oh, okay.
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>>56497941
I still hate the kanto starts and no amount of adorable PMD art can change that
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>>56498206
Understandable.
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Why? Just... why?
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>>56498833
He's lying, there's no other reason for it.
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>>56498833
It goes without saying that sentry duty would be a lot more efficient if they just had a watchtower, so why did they do this?
In universe obviously. We all know why the devs added this
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>>56500613
I feel like there's something going on in the 2nd panel that i'm not seeing
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>>56500613
>>56501770
There’s more to it. It’s only the first 2 panels of a comic: https://teeterarting.tumblr.com/post/716305856455737344/
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What are the clover romhacks?
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>>56502659
does she know?
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>>56502772
I only know 2.
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i dont read many of those stories but just read that swadloon story and i just wanted 2 say it's fantastic and had me giggling right outta the gate
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>>56502659
https://hacks.skytemple.org/h/misfits
https://hacks.skytemple.org/h/the_weather_up_there
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I've decided to try something new: flash fiction, quick mini-stories with no more than 1,000 words.

My stories usually end up being much longer than I want them to be, and I spend way too much time writing and proofreading them. I want to try making some shorter, snappier stories to practice being more concise (and to practice writing in general). It's somewhat similar to the "Booker's Journal" thing I tried doing last year, but this time, I'll make sure everything is under 1,000 words.

Anyway, here's "Samaritan" (997 words), in which Booker and Sneasel help a stranger in a dungeon. I hope you like it.

https://rentry.org/RibombeeFlashSamaritan
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>>56503316
This is cute and a really good idea. mini stories could be really good for fun little character interactions.

What sort of research was that Drowzee trying to do? Seems nefarious
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Taking a break from my thing to workshop a potential new character?
>Former human, current unicorn
>obnoxious homosexual, professional trend follower
>can make sick synth beats and vocal mixes with his psychic powers, basically a walking DJ booth/synthesizer
>eager to capitalize on this new talent and stack paper
>has a little cart he pulls around. Charges pokemon to ride in it like a taxi service

I honestly didn't think Galarian Ponyta's colours would be so hard to work with. He could be a fun character, or I could do nothing with him.

Part of me just wants there to be a horse
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>>56504840
>live adrian reaction
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>>56504883
this one's more the instagram/tiktok type of fag, not the 4chan/discord type. Whether that's better or worse is up to interpretation
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>>56504906
>tiktok
It’s worse
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>>56504840
>donutsteel oc haircut
holy shit finally
took you guys long enough
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>>56504840
>obnoxious homosexual numero dos
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>>56505044
This is Ronnie erasure
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>>56505044
>forgetting about Blade the Cooltorb
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https://youtu.be/DHpoCmSLnAM
Is there good documentation of the unused stuff in the PMD games? Stuff like all the unused Dummy dungeons like this are wild
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>>56505915
There's been some effort in documenting unused sprites/animations recently for Rescue Team:
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon:_Red_Rescue_Team_and_Blue_Rescue_Team/Unused_Animations

The sprite repository doesn't cover some of these, probably because they didn't carry over to Explorers of Sky. (most RT animations did in what seems like a simple copy/paste)
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>>56506012
https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Mystery_Dungeon:_Explorers_of_Time_%26_Darkness/Unused_Dungeons/Dummy_Dungeons_in_Explorers_of_Darkness
There’s also a page on unused dungeons in Darkness specifically, but it’s just words and descriptions, no images or videos…
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>>56505915
There's a lot. Check the pages on the Mystery Dungeon Franchise Wiki, it's mostly for the 3DS games but there are some interesting things for the other games as well. New stuff is constantly getting discovered too.
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>>56506120
https://mysterydungeonwiki.com/wiki/Explorers_of_Sky:Miscellaneous_unused_content
The wiki seems to be very light on the unused Explorers content. but I like the 3DS content it has, it’s surprising that the existence of an entire unused facility in Gates that had Sunkern as its host was never documented in TCRF, I wish all this was in one place
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>>56505447
ronnie's is more zoomer hair
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>>56505447
>pic rel
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They should’ve added the Golden Mask to RTDX, put it in the treasure room on Joyous Tower 99F and made it a requirement to recruit shinies and Kecleon
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My brother modelled, 3d printed and painted this :>

Super sweet
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>>56509234
based
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>>56509234
very based!
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>>56483764
Is there a booru for older art or is it all contained to the discord?
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>>56505172
I'm glad you said #2 Because Serpes is definitely #1 homo
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>>56509365
What older art? Before the booru we had an art gallery rentry, but I think almost all of the stuff there was moved to the booru.
The gallery page with the art links is probably still in the Rentry Pages Archives in the main rentry.
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https://rentry.org/GreatBulk13
Here's another new story. It's a bit short, so bear with me.
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>>56483764
Anyone can join the Clover thing, yeah?
Are there any guidelines to follow?

Mostly wanting to try and improve my terrible writing and this seems fun.
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>>56510171

Don't make your MCs legendaries, you will be mocked. Also, don't do weird meta stuff like bring up game menus or numbers for stats. This is a real world, not SAO.

Main Page: https://rentry.org/vpmdclover

Intro Page: https://rentry.org/cloverintro

Read The Gathering, The Enter the Federation stories, and The Summer Festival stories (on main page) to get caught up on the guild lore.

I recommend reading a few of Booker's, Toge's, and Chespin's stories to get a feel of what we typically write.

Good luck writing, I look forward to reading what you make!
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>>56510631
Thank you!

I haven't written anything in a LONG time, so if I can make something that's at least passable I'll be happy.
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I drew something from our request list ("Bill in his office, exhausted after a day of therapist work"). I made mistakes along the way, and there are some things I could've done better, but it was a good way to practice lighting and shading. I kinda like the end result.

>>56484150
Nice. I like his facial expression.

>>56504165
Thank you. I do have a couple more mini-stories in the works. Hopefully it won't take too long to finish them.
As for the spoiler question, it's up to the reader. I didn't come up with an idea for what he's doing or whether it's nefarious.

>>56509234
Your bro is talented. These are some cute little figures.

>>56489802
>>56509929
I look forward to reading these (though I have some other stories to read first).
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>finally has sprites
I gotta update Orion again.
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>>56512191
i was wondering when this place would find that out
i wonder how long we have til every pokemon is sprited
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I'm so close to being done with this and I'm really proud of this particular segment. So I'm posting it.
>yfw you see your friends
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>>56512491
This picture is giving me bad vibes.
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>>56512194
It'll take a long fucking time because more people just wanna remake sprites for pokemon that already exist because they're not furry enough
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>>56512491
Everything about this drawing is well made, but holy fuck that yarn is thick. These are for like, ice type dungeons like Mt. Freeze. They're practically blankets
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>>56513420
or they're trying to sugimori-color them which sucks dick
eugh no shit lmaoooo
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too lazy to finish my story. you’ll never know what happened next to my character.
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>>56514217
many such cases!
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>>56514217
too lazy to finish my drawing. you'll never know my character.
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>>56514431
Too lazy to finish my
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>>56514440
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>>56514217
>Humon gets sent back to the human world before his PMD adventure begins for real
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>>56512783
based
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Congratulations on (almost) completing drawingboard #43 !!

This one was very hard, and with school starting a lot of art anons were too busy to contribute to large illustrations. It's fine, because we still got amazing art out of it!!

Next one is going to be blank and FREE!!

draw whatever you want!

join in !!! https://magma.com/d/tim0el1aug
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>>56487518
we officialy spooktober (where i live) so here's day 1 doodle
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>>56512783
This is so cute
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>>56514851
Gus and Cider look good together
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>>56486091
>Mustel deciphered the cryptic entries in his book and had to share it with everyone.
>The knowledge within these passages was not meant to be witnessed by mortal minds.
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>>56486091
>Furret spent all of her money on a new ribbon
>She realized it wasn't her color
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Explain why he's not cancelled yet?
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Am I experiencing implanted memories of some sort, or was Kiyo supposed to be an Isekai'd GTAO top-player originally?
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>>56516672
go back to your mirror world
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>>56516657
what did bowtirage did ?
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>>56483764
Anyone else been playing romhacks? I just beat Blue Rescue Team Prologue and thought it was pretty good. Anyone got any recommendations for another one? (I've seen Special Episode 0 and The Bright Future already.)
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>>56516657
This guy is knotting all your PMD waifus and basically you're fucking retarded. Click here to find out how!
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>>56516974
Seal of Ancients and Strung up by Sketches are both very good. You can also try either of the hacks made by anons on this board (Team Misfits, The Weather Up There)
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>>56517068
thanks anon
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>Constantly isakais you into gates to infinity so you are stuck falling as a different pokemon each time but not long enough that you hit the ground.
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>>56517167
I wanna play that because I've heard it's not as bad as people say, but I don't wanna buy specific objects just so I can make the gates work.
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>>56517186
>I don't wanna buy specific objects just so I can make the gates work
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>56517247
isn't it like chibi robo photo finder where you have to have specifically shaped objects that you show the 3DS camera to progress?
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>>56517254
Not to progress. There's an optional side mode where you can generate a dungeon by taking a picture of a circular object. It has nothing to do with the main story
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>>56517254
It's just round objects/circles, and the magnagates you get from that are 100% optional. You don't even get to use your own pokemon for it, since it's accessed from the main menu. They just give you two random starters to use for those and you get to keep the items you get for the main save.
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>>56517263
>Not to progress. There's an optional side mode where you can generate a dungeon by taking a picture of a circular object. It has nothing to do with the main story
I recall having to do that in the story when I last played it years ago.
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>>56517254
You can literally use the circle tool in Paint and it works, the only factors that matter are color and size, and you probably don't care about whatever minor difference it makes anyway

>>56517282
You recall wrong
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>>56517282
i literally played it a few years ago and i have not touched that feature once
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Alright, I've been sitting on this for weeks now for no real reason.

https://rentry.org/bellandvile

Around 8.3k words. I'd post some art alongside this but holy fuck I cannot draw vileplume
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>>56518348
I really like this story, anon. It's great.
There's interesting developments for each of the characters.I didn't expect to feel sympathy for Enny of all pokemon. Adrian showing that he actually cares about his teammates was nice.
I sort of saw both of the twists with the dad coming, but that didn't make either of them any less effective.
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>>56486091
>"Great, I'm being rescued by four cute girls!"
>"We aren't girls," they said, "you're gay"
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>>56486987
>>56486091
>Here lies Cyndaquil.
>He scored.
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>>56519434
you have any mon idea for the fours ?
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>>56517057
Of course I am retarded, otherwise I wouldn't be jelly of him.
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>>56517526
>>56518286
istfg if I play the game and you're trolling I'm gonna be so mad
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>>56519771
i'm actually about to run through the game twice, i'm being honest as possible here, the ar feature is completely optional and never needed to progress the story guaranteed
fuck me i didn't even get to play it because it was nighttime and the stupid thing wouldn't register the circles in my room at the time, but that was after i completed the story, not before
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>>56519782
ok googled it, seems like you're right. I could have sworn that progress was blocked because I couldn't get an object of the right shape the first time I played and I just dropped the game.

might kill myself honestly. I can't stand living in a world that's constantly changing like this.
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>>56519443
rape doesn't count
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>Rain finally manages to steal one of Tropius's bananas!
>She peels it back only to find it definitely is NOT a banana.
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>>56520046
>it's a plantain!
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>>56519446
all of the feminine looking guildmons that are actually male
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>"My fellow Pokémon"
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>>56515783
day 2
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>>56519816
Consent is Cyndaquil's biggest turn on. This would never happen
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Chatot did nothing wrong.
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>>56521788
MC AND PARTNER, GO TO THE TEMPORAL TOWER AND CLEAN UP THIS MESS OR YOU'RE FIRED
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>>56521047
he wouldn't do it, doesn't mean he can't get raped, you know how easily phanpy manhandles him
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>>56521805
time stopping all over the world? yeah, i've seen this before
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>>56521816
If this is the canon pairing for Team Misfits, I'd be alright with that. I always figured Torchic and Totodile were better for each other
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oh no bro
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>>56520394
I didn’t realize Chunsoft was naming the Jew like this.
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>>56520726
GRANT US EYES. PLANT EYES ON OUR BRAINS, TO CLEANSE OUR BEASTLY IDIOCY!
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Grant us love
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>>56520394
It was never really a twist, let's be honest
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>>56523390
it never has a basis, peer pressure's a bitch when people don't think
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>>56522830
Ahh Kos, or some say Kosm…
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>>56519446
>>56520347
So enny, kiyo, booker, and kris?
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>>56486091
>Blossom works in the garden and finds a mystery plant that wasn't there yesterday
>She digs it up and it's an exact copy of her
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>>56519443
He never should've gone after that Rapidash stallion if he wanted to live
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>>56486091
>Go get me a yummy midnight snack at the guild kitchen
>Its closed
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>>56525206
>"Fuck off, bitch. I like men"
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>>56516497
day 3
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>>56525308
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>eevee
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>>56526010
a real man never speaks ill of Rain
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>>56526027
I… GUESS Rain is fine, but every other PMD Eevee OC is on the thinnest ice and should be avoided.
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BRB, actively jumping on the ice and evolving into a Vaporeon.
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>>56525308
Swadloon hands wrote this post
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>>56526259
This post was fact checked by true Clover Guild patriots
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>>56526150
Who's the dude in the middle supposed to be.
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>>56526726
Weavile, I believile.
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>>56520394
I love dopey and pathetic the cyndaquil sprite looks in these games. It always makes me happy to see someone play as it or use it as their partner, I just imagine it as a complete idiot.
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>>56526981
that's... ehem... mean.
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>>56527075
vanilla
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>>56526981
the bright yellow makes me see him like a chinese caricature
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>>56486091
>Guildmon of choice screaming in horror while being dragged by someone offscreen
>It's Elm dragging someone to Brazil
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>>56486091
I have one idea, if you're okay with gruesome suggestions
>Sneasel and Booker run out of food in a dungeon, and they're starving
>Sneasel resorts to eating Booker, like that Goya painting "Saturn Devouring His Son"
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>>56527280
Jesus Christ this would actually be horrifying to see. I don't know if I want to see this or not
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>>56527280
My suggestion is vetoing this suggestion
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>>56486091
>Rain evolves.
>The evolution item was a brick.
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>>56527280
My suggestion is approving this suggestion
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>>56486091
>Gus finally found his partner.
>They were not of this world.
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>>56527280
kino
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>>56527081
that's not a real fetish
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>>56527280
i... uhhhh
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>>56528641
If you don't do it, you're a pussy
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>>56528641
Understandable, have a nice day
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>>56528231
Not with that attitude
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Would Totodile and Bulbasaur be a good team to play in Sky?
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>>56529062
If you're looking to just play normally it's fine enough. Totodile gets Ice Fang and eventually Screech so you can do a whole lot worse, though it's in the worst IQ group.
Bulbasaur seems pretty solid all around, be sure to keep Sleep Powder.
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>>56519434
>>56523578
DAY 4
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>>56529068
>lowest IQ starters
they do look like retards...
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>>56529085
Cute shadows...
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>>56486091
>Welcome to the clover guild!
Then he went downstairs to milk the creature
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>pika: oh boy, can't wait to eat the cheese
the cheese was too big and now pika is cheese shaped
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>>56529062
Sure. Any pairing is fine really. I just finished it (postgame story) with Riolu and Eevee and Eevee is terrible thanks to her ability of ”guess I’ll just lay down and die” that triggers when her health drops below 50%, but Riolu is so strong that he more than makes up for it. Neither Totodile or Bulbasaur are terrible so you’d be good with those.
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>>56530250
I always liked how Sky lets you pick partners like Eevee and Phanpy despite their flaws.
One of my main gripes about the original Rescue Team and Time/Darkness was how they locked you to starters+Pikachu for the partner choice, let me pick something terrible like a Cubone+Machop team if I want.
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>>56531098
Beast's on the nitrous again
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>>56531131
That's what all those whipped cream dispensers were for!
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>>56530296
Yeah, and despite those flaws and frequently being on the bottom of everyone’s list, they’re not really bad. Eevee was alright most of the time, especially with quick attack in corridors, plus she has Adaptability for extra STAB damage so she was hitting pretty hard with her tackle all game despite me slurping all the gummis down with Riolu, who at one point had nearly double Eevee’s stats at the same level.
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>>56529561
What a horribly accurate thing to say
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>>56519443
day 5, putted my spin on that bit
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>>56533033
holy shit is that agumon
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>>56533297
yeah totodile was taking a break and agumon took his pl ace
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>page 10
it’s over
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>>56534365
hitting real close here. not helping is the attitude outside this place where people don't feel inclined to discuss the games because of fucking proximity cringe
as if it's entirely unexpected in 'normal' spaces as well ffs
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>>56534824
Red Rescue Team on Nintendo Switch Online brought a surprisingly large amount of new people to the series, but /vp/ doesn't seem to be affected by this for whatever reason.
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>the niche game franchise with an autistic fandom which is a spinoff of the game franchise with an autistic fandom isn't pouring in constant discussions on the franchise specific imageboard on the website that is infamous for being hostile towards everyone and everything.

Would it surprise you all to know this shit's pretty fucking dead when it comes to discussion in every other discord/forum/whatever I've been to outside of people just making fanfiction and roleplaying? It's not better anywhere else. You can in part blame the market direction of the Pokemon franchise and how spinoffs are treated now. If it can't be made into a mobile game that prints money, it's not worth the investment. We're also in the middle of a console sunsetting period so any attempts to produce something NOW would be better spent developing on the upcoming system.

It's all kind of systemically fucked. See you all in two years when gen X comes out, I guess.
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>>56534921
PMD is not niche, it consistently sells over 1 million and is always in the best selling list of games for its console when released globally.

>other PMD communities are inactive too!
This also false. Twitter, reddit, and Discord have been way more active since 2020 (thanks to both Rescue Team DX and SkyTemple). Activity increased a lot in August (because of Red Rescue Team on Nintendo Switch Online), now random YouTubers are making PMD discussion videos (which is normally rare) because they're getting more views on those. It's just /vp/ that largely doesn't care about PMD anymore.
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>>56534921
When does any pokemon gave have discussion beyond waifus, roleplay and competitive on occasion? PMD is only missing one
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>>56534921
>isn't pouring in constant discussions
that's not what i meant. i mean that i keep seeing discussions about pmd happening outside of the thread because the few fuckwits that do want to engage in actual discussion are too afraid of being near 'roleplay cringe' or some asinine shit like that

i'm aware of the structural issues behind the franchise being as cynical as i am
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>>56533033
He scored so hard he fucking died...
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>>56534868
/vp/ is a porn board
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>>56535149
Time to talk about about the size of my PMD OC's genitals.

They're small.
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>>56533033
>he's pouring one out for the homie
my sides
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>>56535017
>i keep seeing discussions about pmd happening outside of the thread because the few fuckwits that do want to engage in actual discussion are too afraid of being near 'roleplay cringe' or some asinine shit like that
I can't speak for anyone else, but as someone who used to make about a dozen posts per thread, I haven't posted here in months because I got tired of all the discord drama. The incident that really blackpilled me on this thread and got me to really let go was seeing a heated autistic argument about some game mechanic or lore thing and going "w-well, at least the sperging is on-topic this time?" before seeing it devolve into namedropping and accusing each other of being mad over x or y other argument... The realization that even the game arguments had become extensions of discord arguments is what finally killed my last bit of interest in the thread, so at most I only lurk now. If I want to talk about PMD these days, I just message one of my friends instead.
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>>56535208
Booker...
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>>56530296
would have loved to have psyduck as my partner as he has 2 of the best abilities in mystery dungeon at once.
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>>56535964
people keep saying there's a discord but i haven't seen one. nobody's ever posted a link or anything. i must be schizo or something, because more often than not it's shifting the blame for something else rather than it being location-based.
i suppose, but there's still a hefty amount who refuse just on the basis that it's a circlejerk in here when it's not and there's been plenty of game discussion, hostile or otherwise
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>>56535964
I've only been here since early august, when I replayed Sky and wanted to talk about it. I'm genuinely curious as to what you mean by discord drama and discord arguments. Do you mean Clover Guild related stuff, or just in general?

Maybe I just got here during a particularly quiet period, but I've seen very little real arguing that's shitted up the thread to the point that it's suffocating actual game discussion.
The implication that it was that bad at some point makes me uneasy about this whole thing imploding in on itself.

I just want to write stories, draw nice pictures and talk about PMD with other people. I don't want to be around weird, degenerate, terminally online drama in any way.
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>>56536070
I think letting you pick whoever in Rescue Team was the original intent, as the game still has partner-only portraits and animations programmed in. (pic related is an example) My guess is that they decided to lock the partner selection after playtesters got stuck or something, as certain combinations would make the game pretty difficult. (this is probably also why they decided to give the extra starters in Sky 1 egg move each)
You can use a code to force the partner and all this stuff will work, unfortunately they do lack the few lines of in-dungeon dialogue.
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>>56536102
I don't mind playing as Psyduck, it just sucks that he doesn't learn a water move until level FIFTY
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>>56535017
>the few fuckwits that do want to engage in actual discussion are too afraid of being near 'roleplay cringe' or some asinine shit like that
Can you prove this? Other PMD communities have plenty of cringe too, including roleplay, but by your own admission, they’re active. I feel like there’s another reason for this thread not being as active as other places. Maybe because this place is more obscure, or because 4chan has a bad reputation. I dunno.

>>56535964
What discord drama? What namedropping? Come to think of it, how do you know it’s discord drama instead of regular drama? Were people posting screenshots of a discord or something?
Point is, I don’t remember any of that. If you can find it in the archive, please link it.
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>>56536080
They've explicitly mentioned it in the thread multiple times in the past and even posted a few screenshots of it, though they used to pretend it never existed. I don't have screenshots on hand or save bookmarks of posts or anything, but if you need proof there's one or two posts from a while back that stick in my mind enough that I'm reasonably confident I could find them in the archives through searching the words I remember, because no way am I manually trawling back through the archives thread-by-thread to find all the examples I remember.
>>56536099
I'm sure it's a clover discord, but whenever I see it leak into here it's usually more about "this guy was shittalking that guy in VC!" or "wow this post was clearly made by _anon because he's angry right now" when I can remember no posts indicating such in the preceding threads to make them think that. I suppose it could be from the drawboard chat instead, but the distinction between which offsite discussion the drama has leaked in from isn't really significant, it all shits up the thread either way. There's drama over writing stuff too sometimes, but that's distinct in that it's usually spawned in the thread proper in reaction to a new story or a writer stating their intention to do something, and is honestly inevitable when it comes to collaborative settings anyway. Not sure it's ever gotten too terribly bad on that specific front.

You must've just barely missed it, but one thing I noticed is that it can get pretty bad for a few threads in a row and then all of the sudden reset back to 0, as if they realized "oh shit this must look pretty bad to outsiders", before gradually ramping back up to a little worse than the last time, then back to 0 again, rinse and repeat. Like when the boss walks in and everyone pretends to work before going back to slacking off when he leaves and the attention is off them.
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>>56536148
>What discord drama? What namedropping? Come to think of it, how do you know it’s discord drama instead of regular drama? Were people posting screenshots of a discord or something?
They'll mention something that's happened in the discord, or rarely even post a screenshot of it. And once you notice that, you'll connect the dots when you see some hostile namedropping in response to a post that has nothing to do with clover or anything people have posted about under a name/avatar, and realize it's only recognizable to people that know each other offsite and had been discussing these things outside of the thread (likely recently, unless you remember every random unassuming opinion your friends share about everything no matter how far back)
>Point is, I don’t remember any of that. If you can find it in the archive, please link it.
Alright, guess I'm digging in the archive then. There are some more recent ones that I could find with a bit of extra time, but that's more time than I want to dedicate to general drama, so the one I remember well enough to find with a quick search is from spring, so I hope you don't mind your food being cold. Give me a minute here...
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I genuinely don't remember any hostile namedropping ITT, nor any of the other things that you mention
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>>56536148
>>56536198
Alright, here's the one off the top of my head, I overestimated my ability to remember any searchable terms and had to search for a post I remember from a few threads before and then manually go through the threads after.
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/55689645/#q55712288
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/55689645/#q55712303
and the guy being discussed reacting
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/55689645/#q55712641
Pretty low-energy compared to the later sperging that really put me off of the thread, but it was one of the first signs of trouble, and hey, it's the only one I had anywhere close to on-hand. Here is someone from within the discord discussing it, mentioning people in it by name, and even a response by another member. Nobody responded saying "what are you on about, you're not me/there is no discord" at least, so seems legit to me.

Anyways, to pre-empt the replies by guildies I know I'm about to recieve, it doesn't matter if it's not bombarding the thread at every moment. If it gets bad enough for a moment to drive off a few posters, they aren't going to be checking the next few threads going "is it good now? no... okay what about now? no..." until they come back, they're just going to stop posting. If you're at a reastaurant and the staff start shitting on the tables, multiple of them at once and not just a single crazy guy about to quit, you're not going to notice that they didn't do it the next day... because you didn't come back to that restaurant at all after that. Same thing here, especially when discords are already a touchy subject (which the guild knows, which is why they used to dodge the question or deny its existence when it came up). Most posters have already seen firsthand what happens to a general when it gets a discord, so they don't need to see that much of it here to already see the writing on the walls.

The topic was merely "why are we reaching page 10, and what put people off from posting here?" and here's your answer.
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>noooooo you're ruining the thread with your discord shittery reeeeeee!!!!!
>he said, bringing up an off-topic schizo rambling to further kill the thread
it's reaching page 10 because winter is over and most anons have to go to college and don't have time to write/draw anymore, as stated in the latest drawboard posted that you deliberately chose to ignore.
You're that one schizo pepeposter that always talks about the same thing, aren't you?
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>>56536442
>winter is over
imagine living in the southern hemisphere
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>>56536442
I didn't "bring it up" though, the conversation about the thread reaching page 10 had started the night before. If someone can go "it's those meanie clover-guild haters killing the thread by not giving us their posts!" without you bitching about it like this, what's wrong with me responding with a counter-argument? The double-standard here is clearly because of the position I take, and not because of the topic itself, so stop pretending otherwise and act like an adult if you're going to get so pissy about it.
>it's only page 10 because it's a seasonal change in activity
No, the thread is noticeably less active than the same time last year. People wouldn't be bringing it up and turning it into a discussion if it wasn't. For that matter, last summer (or winter for you) seemed more active than this one too, I even remember people posting rescue codes left and right, even non-regulars including that guy asking someone to rescue his nephew or little cousin or whatever. There were barely any this year, in comparison.

We've always had new people come in and post about their playthroughs, I've even posted about mine in the past, but for all of the "Just started out, here's my team!" posts, when's the last time you saw those same posters posting about reaching Primal Dialga/Rayquaza? Or fuck, even about reaching midway through the campaign? Clearly, there's some reason they don't feel like sticking around after making a few posts here.
>schizo rambling
I've clearly stated my point, and directly linked examples in the archive when asked. Are you simply claiming it's "schizo" in and of itself to not like what your group has done to the thread, or does that word just have no meaning to you?
>that one schizo pepeposter
You mean that probably-underage ESL pepe ritualposter that never posts during american hours, can barely string more than a couple sentences together, and hasn't posted in months? Sure buddy, is he in the room with us right now?

>tl;dr
you are mad
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now I regret pointing out that the thread was on page 10, I should've just said bump
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So, have any of you played PMD recently?
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>>56536571
I gotta work on a hack update since Cinccino finally has sprites, will probably replay again after that's done.
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>>56536317
That's way less drama than I thought it would be. Not worth getting worked up over a tiny little incident like that, especially since it seems like the complaining is all from one guy, and who knows if he's actually being honest. On that note, notice how the replies are calling him out for overreacting.
Remember, literally every group has some drama in it, but I've learned this group has very little drama, which is why I'm still participating in it. Even if there was a conflict happening between some people like that one anon claimed, it's long since become water under the bridge.

>>56536528
>what your group has done to the thread
You mean, bring it back to life and fill it with great original content? Sounds good to me.

>>56536571
Sadly no. Nothing new to play. At this rate, I might end up giving Shiren a try.
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>>56536080
there's a discord, they even talked about it on the pixelmon server
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>>56535017
this. I would rather create my own pmd thread because I can't stand the cringy furfags and discord trannies ERPing and circlejerking each other.
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>>56536571
A few months ago I did my customary replay of RT and EoS I do every 2 years, really enjoyed it.
It made me want to replay some other older Pokémon games as well, so I've been visiting /vp/ again for a while.
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>>56524293
day 6, really liked this idea
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>>56536571
No, this is a furry discord erp thread as some very insightful and definitely not butthurt anons have pointed out.
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>>56530250
Even a Charmander/Treecko team is good?
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Any team is good as long as you carry a bag full of reviver seeds!
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>>56537154
mmm delicious
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>>56537117
Treecko gets agility and bullet seed, any team with it is fine
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>>56537117
Yep. Like >>56537622 pointed out, Treecko has some really neat moves and Charmander learns smokescreen at lvl 10, one of the most powerful moves in the game as it can even make bosses unable to attack. If you want to challenge yourself you can try a Chikorita/Phanpy team and even that is doable.
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>>56537215
Funnily enough I just made it through both the dungeon and the Darkrai fight using up only two of the twenty reviver seeds I brought. No deaths in the dungeon, Cresselia was downed twice in the Darkrai fight.
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>>56536571
a slow playthrough of rt but not much else
>>56536608
thanks for repeating my point
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c-cloversisters, our response? t-they're bullying us... AGAIN...
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>>56538531
I don't have time to worry about what anybody is saying. I'm too busy playing PMD and creating Clover content to post in the thread
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>>56538578
this isn't saying what you think it is
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>>56538531
I was planning to commit suicide way before joining Clover.
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>>56538712
>this isn't saying what you think it is
what did he mean by this?
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>>56536080
They gatekeep the fuck out of it because they hate admitting it exists. They wanna pretend they're not like other generals. In fairness though, the existence of a discord is probably the most intense drama this thread consistently besides the people here who used to just lust over Clover Guild characters. Those guys went to /trash/ though so it's not really an issue anymore
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>>56539001
it still sorta begs the question why people don't just post more in the thread out of spite. you aren't gonna 'catch' roleplay if you discipline yourself on it
captcha:WRMS2
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>>56539070
Do people feel like they're missing out by posting here and not being part of the nonsense? I don't get it.
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>>56539143
if the idea is that it's a discord circlejerk, wouldn't it be more productive then to, essentially, keep them to themselves while the 'real' people fucked around, then?
if the thread's just about pmd then i'd imagine it'd be more fruitful to post out of spite if you don't like roleplay. i don't personally join in with the roleplay, i read a story now and then but i don't really draw or join in with the characters or anything, i've been pretty consistent with posting about the games and responding to games discussions here the few times they happen, but it seems more often when people wanna bring it up, they just make an extraneous thread in /vp/ out of some proximity avoidance thing.
It's not new, it's always been the case that there'll be some people not in on the method and therefore posting a thread out to all of /vp/ then is just ignorance, but i feel like there's been a ramping up stigma lately that feels kinda unfounded? Speaking again as someone who really didn't even know or care that there was a discord, and just posts in the threads

like, you're not gonna 'catch' the capacity to roleplay from the threads or anything, and it seems like more often than not there's this unstated pretense of something going on like that, it's bothersome.
and yes, i know, 4chan being a basket full of lunatics you're gonna get the odd twit here or there, but i can't help but notice it more frequently nowadays
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>>56539155
Sounds like autism and unfortunately 4chan doesn't have a psychiatric healthcare program to assist with any weird hang ups any anon has because they think they might catch pokemon furry cooties.
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>>56539143
FOMO brainrot is real.
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>roleplay
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>>56539557
perceived roleplay, regardless of if it isn't
something's keeping people from talking about it because in here are 'a bunch of freaks' if you paraphrase certain people
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>>56537117
>>56537698
I've found that basically every grass starter is good to use, even Chikorita. Most status moves are good and Bullet Seed carries me every time if I can get my hands on it. The extra type weaknesses have never really been an issue for me. Just pick a partner to cover a couple of them and you're set.
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>>56539557
Anyone calling this stuff roleplay is a retard. Using that word is always a giant red flag that shows they have no idea what they’re talking about, and they’re just spinning the truth so they have something to whine and complain about.
People are just inventing characters and writing stories about them. If that counts as roleplay, then every fiction story ever made is roleplay.
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>>56539815
It's not even just roleplay, it's erotic roleplay and everyone knows it at this point, there's no point in pretending anymore.
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>every post that isn't in the general is some personal insult against us because retards are scared of roleplay that doesn't exist!!!!
Holy shit, you guys are so fucking insecure about this shit it's actually embarrassing. You're acting like literally everyone on this site will always go to a general for something (if it exists) by default, and any posts made outside of it are some sort of explicit declaration of war that you must make up some explanation for. Is everyone who posts about a game on /v/ when there's a perfectly good general for it on /vg/ just doing it out of "ignorance" or some specific feud with someone on the general too? The fact of the matter is, there's a general stigma against generals regardless of what goes on inside of them, and you'd know this if this wasn't the only fucking thread on the site half of you used. For a group that goes out of a way to make 4chan a core part of its identity, you're so out of touch with the site's culture it's baffling.

Go on /v/ and ask any thread "why don't you guys come over to the /vg/ thread?", all the replies will be telling you to fuck off and saying "you have to go back", doesn't matter which game you test it with. For that matter, the "scared of roleplay" thing only applies to the initial burst of posters that left right when the guild thing started, and that one ESL. Did you forget that the entire PMD fanbase is fucking obsessed with fan content? Find me a single fan that's never read a fanfic or webcomic or doesn't regularly consume fanart (good luck with that). Do the people who discuss the games now and then in the /trash/ thread instead of here do it because they're "scared of roleplay"? That'd wouldn't make sense, because that thread is literally just ERP.

This persecution complex shit is clearly just your way of avoiding acknowledging any other criticism of your thread. You like to pretend anything anyone could have against you is for literally no reason, because you totally have no real flaws.
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What's the worst possible starter combination you could pick in any of the games?
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>>56540308
I've heard bad things about Phanpy and Eevee
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>>56540017
>For a group that goes out of a way to make 4chan a core part of its identity, you're so out of touch with the site's culture it's baffling.
it's not surprising since half of them are tourist zoomers that unironically only browse this thread and miss more than half of the inside jokes and why most of the drawings have zoomie tiktok puns
They're also not very good at damage control since they refuse to acknowledge anything and everything said about them and try to pretend those posts don't exist by asking incredibly baseline things like starter combos
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>>56540017
Yeah speak for yourself. I've been in PMD threads on vp and v. I don't give a fuck where the game gets discussed, and I don't think it's an insult to us. A little redundant to make a separate thread? Maybe. Can say that about the Flareon and Vaporeon threads that are up right now when Eevee Friday gets posted every week
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>>56540593
>w-well that doesn't apply to me!
That does not erase the conversation immediately prior to my post with multiple posters weighing in on why they think people making separate PMD threads are doing it out of specific distaste for their group. It'd be one thing if I made a generalization out of nowhere with no examples to point to, but my post was clearly in response to people making those points openly in this very thread.

What an absolute nothingburger of an argument.

>>56539155
>but it seems more often when people wanna bring it up, they just make an extraneous thread in /vp/ out of some proximity avoidance thing.
Explain how your (alleged) non-participation in this line of thought makes the above poster suddenly not exist and therefore invalidates my argument about said poster (and those like them) existing. Trying to paint the mere act of posting PMD outside of this thread as having to be motivated by spite really highlights the type of cliquey, self-centered behavior here that drives people off, literally "If you're not (posting) with us, you're against us."

And in case someone tries to argue again that this supposed drop in activity doesn't exist, or is merely because of the time of year and it's always like this in fall, etc etc, this thread was made on the 23rd. It's been two weeks since then and the thread still hasn't even reached bump limit. At the same time last year...
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/54522203/
A thread is started on the 20th...
https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/54565756/#q54604222
And around the same time of day, on the 2nd of October (12 days later), we already reached the end of our SECOND thread. In other words, in LESS time, we had more than TWICE the posts. This thread's activity has dropped by more than half over the past year, and that's a pretty grim figure. What cope are you going to come up with next to say it's not true/doesn't count? Everyone just happened to catch the flu last week and you're all too sick to post?
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>>56540354
On that topic, if I understand right, the Run Away ability in Rescue Team did nothing but force the Pokemon to flee uncontrollably once it got below half health. Is that true? That sounds like the worst ability ever.
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>>56540710
>The thread is dying
It's a thread for a game that hasn't gotten an original game in almost a decade. Why are you surprised?
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>>56540715
in base rescue team yeah. They made it SLIGHTLY better in explorers by making it also let you ignore shit like shadow tag
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>>56540732
I can’t believe they gave such a bad ability to a starter, but at least they tried fixing it later.
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>>56540736
at least the running away doesn't trigger if it's the leader
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>>56540715
Yep, though the effect stops when they return to above 50% HP if that wasn't clear.

It honestly wouldn't even be THAT bad if the "get away" pathfinding didn't have a major tendency to get stuck near enemies in RT, defeating the entire purpose of it.
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>>56540731
>[x] isn't true you fucking deliberately lying retard schizo!!! (>>56536442)
"Yes it is, and that's not even a matter of opinion, it is mathematical fact. Here are the numbers, check for yourself." (>>56540710)
>errm who even cares about [x]? it's not a big deal, why are you so hung up on it? (You)
If it's not a big deal and not even surprising, then why get all pissy trying to deny it in the first place? Tell your discord buddy to stop being a retard next time.
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>>56540764
I never said it wasn't true you fucking schizo. Also do you have any solutions to this sudden inactivity outside of continuing this forced "drama"?
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>>56540731
It is surprising though. PMD communities everywhere else on the Internet have been quite active for a while and there was a huge boost in popularity when they announced Red Rescue Team on Nintendo Switch Online.
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>>56540777
Yeah I have no idea what communities you're looking at because from my perspective the only communities that are "thriving" right now are Skytemple and PMDO, and that's because they make their own games there. Maybe we should start developing some hacks here ourselves to boost activity
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>>56540739
Are there other abilities that don’t work for the leader?
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>>56540781
There are also smaller PMD communities that are more active than /vp/ is nowadays. And as I already said, a lot of people just recently discovered the series through Red Rescue Team and are now starting to play the other games for the first time as well. I could show you some data if you really want me to.

>Maybe we should start developing some hacks here ourselves
That's a good idea, but it might be hard to organize. You could also just play and discuss the existing hacks and Origins.
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>>56540775
Well, as I've already said, reacting to the lack of activity by lashing out at anyone who doesn't post here—which you guys were doing before I even posted, which is WHY I posted—only further convinces said posters that this really isn't the place for them. Do you honestly think that accusing everyone who isn't posting here of being a butthurt retard will make them all go "Oh no, I don't want to be a butthurt retard, I guess I'll do what they say and go back!"??? And of course, there are other things I've pointed out that you'll deny ever happened or try to make excuses for, and then when I dig up links from the archive to prove it, you try and move the goalposts and say it doesn't matter, or claim it's an exception (whereas prior the stance was it didn't even exist at all). Your collective refusal to acknowledge the problems the thread faces is a clear indicator of your lack of desire to actually address them. You prioritize wanting to feel like you're "in the right" over actually trying to keep the thread alive, so you'll spit out whichever nonsense argument you think justifies you as having done nothing wrong, no matter how undeniable the problem is (to the point people begrudgingly walk back their denial when called out), even if doing so exacerbates the problem in question.

As I said, I used to post here all the time, I was there at the beginning calling people newfags when they complained that writefagging has no place in a general, I laughed alongside you the couple of times I caught one of those underage frogposter threads complaining about /pmdg/ while scrolling the catalog past midnight, and moreso when he got called out for trying to hype himself up in the thread... so I don't say any of this lightly when I say this thread has fallen far from grace. Until you learn to swallow your pride and self-improve, you will be digging the thread's grave YOURSELVES, blaming the very posters you drove off by shitting all over them all the while.
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And since this is still going the next day, might as well scroll back...
>>56536597
>but I've learned this group has very little drama, which is why I'm still participating in it.
Oh really? If it's now about how drama-free the group itself is instead of just in the threads, here's one I stumbled across earlier while using the global search feature for something else.
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/67248165/#q67299519
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/67248165/#67300147
>I fell in love with someone on /pmdg/ and not just anyone but the creator of the group
>but he's a terrible person and broke my heart and gave me trust issues
>here's all the things he's done and also it's not just me who's upset with him, someone else in the group hates him for it too and it's created drama!
>so here I am making a callout post
It seems like feuds behind the scene leading to calling each other out in public around the site is a recurrent behavior for this group. This "there's no drama in those places you can't see, if there is then provide examples of every single incident!" shtick only works if you don't put the examples out in the open for non-members to run into.

C'mon, saying ANY general's discord is drama-free is already reason to laugh in your face, why did you think you'd get away with it this time? Are you finally going to acknowledge that, yes, maybe some of these problems DO exist and you should work on them, or do you still think you can trick the posters who left for greener pastures into thinking none of it is real so they'll come back? Your thread or your pride, you can only save one, so maybe it's time you stop kidding yourselves and make a choice.

Thread's almost over, and I only piped up because I was indirectly referenced (as part of a collective genre of posters), so I don't intend to keep going into the next. Either way, you asked why posters left, and as a poster who did, I answered. What you do with the information is (unfortunately) up to you alone.
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>>56540781
>>56540816
Making a hack is a lot of work, I don’t know how realistic that idea is
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>>56524989
day 7
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>>56540894
You're attacking a straw man. I said there's very little drama, not zero drama, but you keep putting the words "drama-free" in my mouth.
And that stuff you dug up is irrelevant. So, some people in the group don't like each other? Big fucking whoop. Can't expect everyone to be on perfectly good terms all the time. But outside of a couple problems here and there, which is normal for any group, I think things are fine. We're still making OC, every thread hits bump limit, and people are still hanging out and having fun together, no matter how much you whine and insult people.
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>>56540736
>>56540748
In RT it's not really much of an issue, as Eevee cannot be chosen as the partner. I think the ability's effect was mainly intended for enemies you encounter, similar to Truant which makes the game absolutely unplayable if it's on your team.
Run Away may be one of the reasons they cut Eevee in favor of far less popular mons like Skitty in Time/Darkness, but it was brought back to Sky anyway. (didn't get saved from being snubbed yet again in Super)
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I remember when a few schizos thought Rowlet and Chespin anon genuinely hated each other because of the hay vs cotton thing, kek
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>>56541075
I wish Rowletguy would return, he had good artwork and the rivalry was funny
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none of this would have happened if you discordtrannies accepted the suicine guy
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>>56541316
There was a suicune guy?
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>>56540961
>no it's not real!!!
>well it is but it doesn't count!!!!!
>I only happen to deliberately avoid what you dug up b-because... it was an exception!
>i-it's obviously just one guy
>actually YOU are the problem!
you can only get away with these for so long
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new thread:
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