150 Damage Edition>Friend ID Survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScx82fFuZO5JSneihERecx5UKEJv42EGQKYZM3flPh_ERIa-A/viewform>Friend ID Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DGhOfaMX6D_YUR-P39_OJdVmAl0uacohIRstE9oN9SQ/edit>Tournament results/decklists: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/completed?game=POCKET>Deck Builder: https://my.limitlesstcg.com/builder>Datamines, etc.: https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/vp/ battle passwords to battle with other anons (consider writing a post to recruit players)>/vp/‘s own meta (no random effects, no ex): vpnx>meta decks or high level play: vpmeta>/vp/ anything: vpPrevious thread: >>57137638
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the only deck I have built is blaine lol
Is Dragonite worth building or is it a meme
>>57140107Use Lens.
>>57140120Meme, but that doesn't mean you won't have fun.If you pulled the cards looking for Gardevoir go ahead and try it.But I wouldn't chase the Dragonite line if you don't already have it.
>>57140120Fun meme.
>Brag questioning again:Can anyone think of any reason why I shouldn't redeem 1 copy of Crown Rare Mew in order to buy out the entire premium cosmetic shop? Pros:>I want the sleeves and the playmat, maybe even the cover>there are "whales (dolphins)" who don't even have this stuff, and I'd have it as f2p>get use out of my 3rd Crown Rare Mew, instead of it sitting there uselessly>even if trading is good, which it wont be, but even if it's good, I would need a a shit ton of cards in exchange for this Crown Rare mew in order for it to be worth it to me>to me, it's not trading away Crown Rare Mew, it's trading away the entire premium cosmetic shop, so I'd need like a playset of the entire FA Trainer suite to consider it, because I still have a month's worth of dick sword WPs to gamble on between now and the time trading drops>the only things I want in this game are all available via WP anyway, so I can gamble and potentially get it every 2 daysCons:>it costs 20k Dust, which might be incredibly valuable for trading, especially for f2p (but at the same time, the stuff I want is available via WP)>it's highly unlikely, but I might need >2 copies in order to trade>there is a very slim chance that trading is good>there is an even slimmer chance that I could actually trade Crown Rare Mew for an entire playset of the FA GA Trainer Suite, which is really the only thing I even wantThe more I think about it, the more it sounds like a good idea to just redeem my Mew.
>>57140150I promise you that Crown Rares will not be tradeable. EVER.
>>57140150Unless you're desperate to wear those cosmetics ASAP you can wait to learn how trading works and make a more informed decision. Even if you still grind it up you'll do it with the full knowledge that you aren't missing out on anything.
>>57140150If you want it then get it. Nobody's going to offer 11 specific full art trainers for that card, even if they end up being allowed to. So it sounds like the only reason to wait would be for Special Set 02.
>>57140167>So it sounds like the only reason to wait would be for Special Set 02.Hmm... that is a good reason. I hadn't considered that they would release more. I actually thought that they wouldn't, but I guess they are numbered after all. That might be a good enough reason to wait.
>>57140102>JynxMan I've been trying to run this Pok since the launch and it's disappointing. Right now only Celebi is worth the inventment of a deck slot and 2 energy.
>>57139039>>57138994>>57140118Stop baiting people into thinking this Eevee is good fucking faggot.
>>57140240It's good if you're already playing an Eeveelution. Losing out on 20 damage half the time is worth it to sometimes randomly win the game instantly.
What's the current meta celebi deck? This is the list I'm running right now and I'm pretty happy with it. I thought about running mew instead of old exeggutor but old eggs can actually compete with blaine decks and provides a more consistent backup plan if celebi dies after you only put energy on it.
im finally getting the hang of the new meta. I won like 4 games in a row with this, thoughts? Arcanine + gio slaughters electric and grass decks, also does well into mewtwo because mew dies as well. Mew is a great tank and lets me kill any mewtwo. Probably sucks against Gyarados but theres nothing i can do about that.
just beat a dragonite deck running koffings because he kept getting electric energy and couldn't Draco Meteor lmao
If I liked legends of runeterra will I enjoy this
>>57140255Personally I run only one Serperior line, a single Leaf instead of two, and fill up the gap with Potions and X-Speeds.
>>571402552 Celebi is standard.2-2-2 Serperior is standard but 1-2-2 sees play.Exeggutor is all over the place.You definitely want 2 Exeggutor ex, you probably want 2 Exeggcute, and it's not clear how many Psychic Exeggutors you want.
>>57140270GA non-ex Exeggutor is seeing more play than the MI Exeggutor.
>>57140260I don't really see the advantages of running this over default arcazard. Moltres can't feed mew energy and arcanine doesn't benefit from getting more than 3. Charizard can still deal with gyarados decks while arcanine is at a pretty serious disadvantage.
>>57140260I'd drop one of the Mews so you're more likely to open with/pokeball into Moltres+Growlithe. Also I'd cut a Leaf for another X-Speed to not conflict with your other supporters since if you're retreating Moltres you probably don't care about keeping the 1 energy on it, and if you X-speed a 3 energy Arcanine out then if you switch it back in you can just put that turn's energy on it.
Say what you will about PLANETA, but their 4-diamond cards look better than their 2-star cards.
I’ve just been throwing these things in the trash but then I realized somebody here might actually want these codes. Anybody want them?
>>57140276>I don't really see the advantages of running this over default arcazard.To bully all the Celebi decks online right now harder. You can just place energy on Mew to help counter decks like Mewtwo since Arcanine needs so few.In a tournament Charizard is probably better though.
>>57140268I see the logic, but imo adding potions when i've already got 2 erikas is kind of superflous, and celebi doesn't have such a huge health pool that it would matter as much. Having double serperior also increases odds of getting a super boosted celebi, and has the added bonus that it decreases retreat costs when you've got it on the bench.
>>57140284wrong thread senpai
>>57140276nta but im pretty sure this deck got 2nd at that chicks tourneys so im sure its fine.
Anyone else in no rush?
Why are so many people running Druddigon? Ok it's a wall but it's also a brick and a free KO
>>57140287>>57140287>imo adding potions when i've already got 2 erikas is kind of superflousAnecdotally I find that a Potion can push a mon just out of KO range. I won't deny that it can make me brick. I've scored some wins off of just getting a non-doubled Celebi into the Active Zone and have it start hitting.
>>57140284TPCI-ism. TPC wants nothing do to with this faggotry.
>>57140296leaf
>>57140150I'm not reading all of that just so whatever you want, who cares, nobody cares about their opponent's cosmetics, you're just yet another rando
>>57140296>Ok it's a wall but it's also a brick and a free KOYou can easily retreat it with Leaf and it does chip damage if attacked, which can result in opposing pokemon getting in range of whatever you have on your bench ready. It's not as passive as Snorlax, and don't need energy like Kanga.
>>57140296They get a free KO on the crackback and whatever they set up behind it is more menacing than what you were setting up.>>57140303>nobody cares about their opponent's cosmetics,Sleeves are whatever and mats are downright annoying but I appreciate it when my opponent has a coin cosmetic.
>>57140286If you just want to bully celebi decks, I've seen great success with this deck. Ninetales and rapidash can both one shot celebi with blaine and mew is a good meatshield if you need an extra turn to get rapidash set up. This deck also usually gets active a turn sooner than arcanine, which is a big deal as that's one less celebi coinflip you'll have to deal with.
>>57140296It can do damage for zero energy while you safely set something up. They don't care about you KOing it because then they switch in their win condition for free.Gyarados EX is the best user of it. If it does 20 damage then Gyarados can one shot stuff like Mewtwo. If they're playing some aggro deck that wants to attack every turn ASAP then they're going to take a bunch of free damage or be forced to slow down. Both are good for the Chuddigon player.
Is there a guide for using my currency most efficiently etc. I'm overwhelmed by all the shit to do
>>57140314That's a completely different style of deck. May as well suggest Gyarados at that point.
>>57140296I genuinely don't know, pretty much everyone I've fought using it hasn't done particularly well. It's slightly easier to retreat than kangaskhan, sure, but it also just tends to sit in front doing nothing. Whenever I see it, I know I'm free to build up win con pokemon with no real rush and will just one shot it once I'm ready or sabrina in their other pokemon and get them that way. It just seems like a worse wall compared the options most decks have. Even normal articuno works better as it only has 1 retreat cost, the same health and will sometimes attack with misty as an added bonus. Druddigon really only works when people don't play around it
How viable is Pidgeot EX? Any good or at least >fun decks with it?
>>57140340Its viable
>>57140340https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks/pidgeot-ex-druddigon-a1a?game=POCKET&format=standard&set=A1ahttps://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks/pidgeot-ex-a1a-weezing-a1?game=POCKET&format=standard&set=A1a
>>57140327it's the same type and not that different in archetype. You get set up in 1-2 turns ideally, and start sweeping. The difference is that your much less likely to brick with the blain deck than with the arcanine deck since you NEED to pull arcanine or moltres isn't doing shit.
>>57140340druddigon and pidgeot ex but use the genetic apex pidgeotto insteadand since you are using druddigon you need two leaf cardsthat’s it
>>57140340Pidgeot EX is good for the same reason Gyarados is. It just has big stats that can checkmate the opponents. It's just not quite as good at that.But being Colorless means there's a ton of Flex with the decks you can run it in.I've been having fun with that silly Victreebell Pidgeot deck but you'd probably be better off with Exeggutor EX or Weezing or Drudd you can even run fire water energy :)Using Pokeflute for +20 damage is very funny.
>>57140344>pidgeot druddigon has a 59% winrate against mewtwo/gard decksHow? all you have to do is put only one celebi on the bench and not attack druddigon until mewtwo is 4+. Is this the average tourament players skill level?
>>57140357>one celebione ralts, brain is a fuck
>>57140346They share the same color background of their cards but an aggro style deck is totally different from one where you're trying to build up a boss monster to sweep with.
>>57140355>Pidgeot EX is good for the same reason Gyarados isnot really? With the exception of Pika EX, pidgeot is very easy to play around and damage is limited when you aren't just filling up the bench. If you pull magikarp immediately and flip at least one heads on misty, you steam roll just by having gyarados, it almost doesn't matter what your opponent does after that.
incelebi coin flip virginvseevee coin toss gigachad
>>57140362I thought we were talking about arcanine and not charizard?>arcanine is a boss, look at that damageNinetales+Rapidash hit for the same damage with blaine but get to attack faster.
>theorycrafting alakazam drudd deck realizing that zam can oneshot gyarados at 4 energy>except gyarados can actually live the revenge kill if its attack’s effect discards its own energy this mon actually transcended its own humanity
>>57140371No one said it's as good as Gyarados is, just that it has big numbers.
>>57140393Zam is heavily flawed, i banked on it being meta potentially this expansion but it falls apart. >druddMost run no energy so zam cant kill it>mewtwoZam cant revenge kill sometimes as it discards its own energy>mewMew is the final nail in the coffin. If your opponent has hacking ready, you will just get revenge killed.
>>57140393Drudd puts it in range of psychic + gio don't worry
I've never understood how people take so long to decide which mons to put out before turn 1. The fuck are you doing during all that time?
>>57140403I've had success vs both mewtwo mew and drudd with Zam. >mewtwo is in range of psychic with drudd and gio or prior chip>mew can copy it but you can afford to lose drudd + one zam to revenge kill it and win the whole match>drudd is a sitting duck and sabrina can get past it. Or most of the time you play the waiting game setting up 2 zams and revenge killing twice
Isn’t this same flair on a bunch of other cards like all the time? I can’t even tell if I’m actually afraid of missing out on this or not.
>>57140324Shop tickets -> prioritize time limited purchases (monthly glass), get the one-off purchases later (single-purchase glass, 2nd copy of item cards, cosmetics, etc.) at your own discretion after thatYou get 180-ish tickets per month from thanks and your login bonus + 20-40-ish tickets per month from events + 300-ish tickets from solo battles when a new set drops (every other month?)Pack glass -> just spend it on packs you want on hold it for new setsWonder glass -> spend it on godpack WPs where you want all 5 cards; if you're not abusing the friends list just sit on your wonder glass for the foreseeable futureEvent glass -> spend it on extra expert battles (100% drop rate) at the end of a drop event if RNG cucked you; hold it or spend it at your own discretion if the event gave everything you're looking forDust -> cosmetics? lmao
>>57140102I've been trying to make a drudd/raichu/magneton deck work. Seems pretty nice for nuking things but it runs into problems with being a little slow and getting revenge killed easy by mew/gyarados/and mewtwo.
>>57140427The Arcanine flair wasn't exclusive to Arcanine and the Mew flair won't be exclusive to Mew. The FOMO is these flairs are otherwise unavailable on these cards.
>starter dies instantly to a coin flip>concede>starter dies instantly to a coin flip>concede>starter dies instantly to a coin flip>concede>starter dies instantly to a coin flip>concedeWorst mechanic ever devised.
>>57140423I think some people are timer stalling to see if you'll surrender to go to the next game and then if you stick it out they'll play it out. Or maybe they went AFK as they waited to find a match. Sometimes you have to think a bit about the risk/reward of putting one in the active, like what are the odds I draw the stage 1, what if I draw X-speed, etc. But it shouldn't take too long to do that.
>>57140423They're waiting to see how many cards you're putting out.
>>57140423If I put the wrong mon on active I lose. There is a reason they give you all that time.
>>57140423I only ever play this game while I'm doing something else. Maybe I'm watching something, maybe I'm half playing another game, maybe I'm posting on 4chan. Turns are long enough that you can multi-task, and the game is simplistic enough that you don't need to be paying attention while your opponent is playing the game. Sometimes I forgot momentarily that I am in a game. Sometimes I set my things out and forget to click the button that says I'm ready.
>>57140466Kinotinuous Soul
>>57140476Also considering if your energy type changes which is better in the active.
>>57140255It's not meta, but I've been running this and doing fairly well, i beat this exact list with my deck tooI think going all in on celebi is bait, you need to coin flip the stage 2 and the actual coin flips just to win, I think celebi is much better as a zapdos backup win con, making the opp kill two 1 prize and a celebi felt really good too but I also just need an excuse to play the full arts I pulled
>>57140503>forgot image
>>57140510I run almost the same deck, the only difference being 1 eggsex ex and 1 new eggsex.
Fossil searching card when
>>57140522A3 (end of April)
Has someone made a mewtwo ex deck but with Golurk instead of mewtwo ex? in theory it hits harder than mewtwo (if you are lucky), you d't discard energy to attack and there is not "EX penality" danger.
>>57140535Mewtwo doing 100 damage on the way to Psyshot is significant.Mewtwo only needing 1 card is significant.Golett only does 50 damage on the way up (if you don't evolve early for the HP) and needs 2 cards to become Golurk.
I found a wild godpack. Never thought I'd see the day. I wish I had gotten a Leaf or the Mew, but I'm glad I didn't get the Serperior.
>>57140544>I found a wild godpack.FC?
>>57140544I AM UPSET>>57140546Anon giving you their FC means shit, that godpack was wild, not of theirs.
>>57140546I don't want to bombard this poor random with friend requests, and I don't want him to end up on the discord if he doesn't want to be. Sorry. It's not my FC to give.
>>57140552I'm asking for the FC for the wild pack. Anon had the opportunity to get it for us, if he cared to.
>>57140556Fair enough.
>>57140556>the discorduhh what discord
>>57140573There's like 3 or 4 discords where people are sharing FCs for god pack WPs.
>>57140573>what discord
Would it be possible to make evolution support without also buffing Mewtwo/Celebi decks?
>>57140403I was going to run some other mons to help with offense (mew, maybe tauros, potentially even m2ex) so the game isn’t all Zam. Double golem and double machamp can often get 2 ready over the course of one game so I figured Zam would just be a 1-prize nuke. I’d at least like to try it out but I only have one Kadabra lel
>>57140535Like >>57140540 said, golurk needs more time to setup making it harder to use as a wincon. I've used double hypno with golurk to stall longer to get the energy and those have been some of my funniest and longest games. There are few highs better than sleeping your opponent for 3-4 turns into double heads.
>>57140594can you give me a hint of where to find it
>>57140393>>except gyarados can actually live the revenge kill if its attack’s effect discards its own energyIn my experience, Gyarados discards its own energy like 90% of the time, if not more. It doesn't feel random at all.
>>57140601Supporter cards that only work for specific pokemon/types that don't include mewtwo or celebi.
>>57140340Pikachu ex counter
>>57140609google
>>57140296He's great, he's a wall that puts opposing pokemon in range of revenge kills, and also shuts Sabrina down if you have two of him on the field.The main downside is, as you said a free kill. But that tends to happen when your opponent sets up faster than you. It buys you time in the early game, protects your main hitters, does chips damage, has an easy retreat with Leaf, and if Drudd gets KO'd, it's just 1 point. Not bad for all the utility you get.
>>57140503>>57140510What I've realized fighting new eggs decks is that old eggs excels early but new eggs can clean up in late game. The one other advantage is that if old eggs is in active but serperior isn't on the bench, new eggs isn't going to hit that hard.
Nuoooh
>>57140618It picks a random energy, not a random Pokemon. When most of the energy is on Gyarados it's no surprise it usually picks an energy on Gyarados.
>>57140648>When most of the energy is on Gyarados it's no surprise it usually picks an energy on Gyarados.Yes, I know. Even in slow matches where Misty flips tails and Gyarados is out at regular speed and the opponent has a Gardevoir Mewtwo, possibly even a Mew, Gyarados still discards energy from Gyarados. I would not ever bank on Alakazam being able to ohko it.
What's the net worth of the average Gyarados EX player?
>>57140296>Why are so many people running Druddigon?Same reason people were running regular Mewtwo and Kangaskhan before the miniset. Exact same reason.
>>57140609https://discord.gg/cW6B9BXs
You just know
I don't understand the people who hit for whatever amount of damage that doesn't even take out my Pokemon and then when it's my turn to finish them off, THEN they concede. Like instantly. My turn, I don't even get to reat, they concede. They just hit for x damage and then concede.They didn't even get any points from it. There's no total damage dealt counter in your battle records. What the hell are you doing? Why is this so common? I get if you want to get your points before you concede. I don't get this. It's EXTREMELY common behavior and I don't fucking get it.
I love Mew in Arcanine
>>57140749>It's EXTREMELY common behavior and I don't fucking get it.I think they're just playing out what they've got.
Whens the cancer 5 win streak event
>>57140761Then why bother conceding? You know you're dead. If you're conceding before I get to finish you off you clearly value your time. But not enough to save 20 seconds instead of 5?
>>57140770end of january right before new set drops
>>57140779They want to get the last hit. Happens all the time.
>>57140793That's what I don't get. It's childish behavior.>yeah you might have won but i got the last hit so HA suck it
>have no cards to build a competent deck >used all my resources given to mewild
Fellow Pokemon enjoyers, do you like the TCG Live game? I made the jump from Pocket and I can't believe how try hard the competition is. I'm out there with Charmander and Pidgey and somehow Pokemon has turned into Yugioh and there are combos to get EX cards out on turn one. But I heard it's easier to get cards maybe?
>>57140749I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I wan't because I can.
>>57140838It is easier to get the cards in PTCGL.Trading is implemented for one thing. And if you buy a physical pack you get a voucher you can redeem to get a digital copy of each card in the pack >>57140284.People who play physical (or just colect the cards) but don't play PTCGL give away their vouchers all the time and you can buy vouchers in bulk on ebay.
>>57140798>It's childish behavior.This is a highly uncompetitive children's coinflip card game where going first is significantly worse than going second.
>im stuck playing marowak ex coin flip shit to win games because its the best card I own this is horrible
>>57140874i've been beating kids with sandslash and onyx for 2 weeks
>>57140860What does that have to do with anything? You're still acting like a child mad that he lost.
>>57140874Buy an account or reroll, bro. You can very easily get the Celebi deck on a reroll, you can somewhat easily get the Mewtwo deck on a reroll, and you can feasibly get the Pikachu deck on a reroll. The only thing you can't really except to be able to reroll for is Gyarados, because you'd need 2 Gyarados EX from MI, and then 2 Greninja lines from GA.
>>57140880>people playing the children's card game act like childrenare you stupid lol
>>57140874Shoulda gotten the guaranteed Exeggutor EX coin flip shit to win games because it's the best card you own.
>>57140874I feel your pain, Marowak was my first EX and when I built a deck with him it was nothing but tails.
>>57140880>YouNot your bogeyman.>You're still acting like a child mad that he lost.You're the one bitching about the way other children choose to concede. I get Sabrina'd then Red Carded then attacked then conceded against a decent amount, but when that happens to me I just do a little "kek" and move on with my life.
>>57140874>playing marowak ex coin flip shit to win games because its the best card I ownhttps://youtu.be/5ualVZkLhmo?si=7G40N7QMgZdBnVuy
>>57140887Yeah that excuse might have worked if it was actual children I were playing against. I somehow doubt mommy is going to let their little special boy spend 100s if not thousands of dollars on 7 crown pikachus in a mobile game though. Or maybe they would and that would explain their spoiled behaviour pretty well.>>57140892Not a second person you. A generic you. Stop being so defensive.
>only able to play one evolutionary line until the very end of the game>hoard Sabrina until they try to wall me with Mewtwo>winI am training a Scolipede in Gen 10.
>>57140899>Stop being so defensive.So you're just gonna choose to disregard my reply? Okay, child :)
>>57140906What reply? You didn't explain anything. Just gave me an irrelevant anecdote. Who cares?
>>57140908>the actual child is becoming upsetkek
>>57140880It's fine, it's just Pokémon, we're playing a kid's game with adults in it from time to time. It's really not that deep.There's thousands of reasons on why someone might concede after doing a bad play. Not all of them have to be out of spite. For all we know somebody might have been playing on commute and then they got to their destination, so they conceded at that moment. Or maybe they realized too late there wasn't much they could do. We really don't know unless we ask, and at that point it's easier to queue the next match. As long as you win the match, do the points really matter?
>>57140913Great conversation.
>>57140900>nidopede
>>57140918I tried to have a conversation, but you chose to get upset and ignore the conversation in favor of getting hung up on something that you believed made you "win".In fact, what you did is kinda like if you had attacked me and then conceded in PTCGP :)
>>57140885do you have deck lists for those? I can at least look at what i got and how close I am, if I need do spend like 20 bucks on packs I dont mind
>>57140917No I get conceding in 99% of scenarios. I think it's the proper thing to do myself. In just about every game you concede when you realize there's no way to come back or it's near impossible. What I don't get is when you realize you've lost, you waste your time doing one more attack even though you know the game is over, and then you concede immediately after you've done your attack that achieve nothing. Didn't even get a point from it. It does literally nothing but waste everyone's time including your own.
>>57140920
>>57140923>do you have deck lists for those?https://www.pokemonmeta.com/top-decks#tournamentWinnersOnlyJust click a deck. >if I need do spend like 20 bucks on packs I dont mindYour money would be better spent buying an account.
>>57140921What conversation? You gave me a meaningless anecdote. What do you want me to say about it? I'm sorry that happened? Must've been annoying? I feel bad for you? Or do you want me to say wow you're so tough for bearing through it? Genuinely what does this have to do with what I'm talking about? I think you're under the assumption that I'm mad at the people doing this. I'm not. I'm perplexed. I want to find out why. Your anecdote tells me nothing.
>>57140930>What conversation? You gave me a meaningless anecdote. What do you want me to say about it? I'm sorry that happened? Must've been annoying? I feel bad for you? Or do you want me to say wow you're so tough for bearing through it?meant for >>57140749
>people on my WP already moved back to GANyooooI still haven't got all the EX despite already opened like 70 packs
>>57140920Kneel to your royalty.
>>57140936Comedy genius
>>57140937Are you chasing the player icon for getting every diamond card?
>>57140946Not reallyStill need my second copies of Serperior, Gyarados, Pidgeot and Mew
>>57140929>Your money would be better spent buying an account.its that bad to open packs huh
>>57140958Not really, but you can't expect to just get what you need quickly without whaling. You can build stuff over time just fine.
>>57140957All of those can be WP'd from god packs. Go back to GA.
>>57140924Gotcha that's fair, it is a waste of time. I just tend to assume they weren't thinking or paying attention when that happens, so my default is they weren't being intentionally malicious, just a bit oblivious.
>>57140958>spend $20>don't get what you wantvs>spend $20>buy an account that has cards you know you wantIf your best card is Marowak EX, you sound brand spanking new. The meta decks are seriously the easiest decks to acquire, except maybe Gyarados. Like, just a quick browse, it looks like there is an account available for $20 that can make most decks. I haven't scrutinized it, so don't quote me and don't find it and buy it based off my word, but for $20 you can probably pretty easily get someone offloading their day 1 account that can make most decks in the game. As opposed to giving DeNA/TPC $20 bucks, getting nothing, and then having your mood soured.
Pika fag btfo
>>57140982He probably tried to open equal amounts of every pack and just started.
>>57140991>2 DruddsYou're not any better desu.
>>57140982People are buying accounts with the cards they want ? Meanwhile us F2P chads have most of the cards anyways
>>57140967Never seen one from GPAdded too many IRL friends for me to bother with the WP discord abuse
>>57140991How does this deck play? Are there any matchups that seem bad?
>>57141006*Never seen one from WP
>>57141010Dog sama I kneel.
>>57141008Nah just beat a mewtwo with it
>Concede>Honor your opponent by playing out your lossOne of of these will get you to Heaven
>>57140991This is such a difficult deck to deal with. The best way I've seen to deal with this is greninja sniping it before it sets up.
>>57141019second one
>>57141027greninja Is a nightmare for golem because it lacks healing and the retreat cost is high
>>571410191st one. I don't want to waste their time. But before I leave, I will take my last turn and hit them for 300 with my 10 coins from Celebii.
>>57141005Yeah it's pretty easy to get the cards over time, especially with WP. Much easier than I was initially expecting. However, I think new players in any gacha game should always either reroll or buy an account. Especially if the new player in question is already considering spending $20 on packs; for $20 he could get an account that started early, played through the events, and can make (most) every deck.
>>57141035>i dont want to waste their time>but i will however waste their time
>>57141035Thank you, I wanted to watch all the coins flip too.
>>57141044Kinda wish I rerolled a bit but I eventually got some good stuff
what level are you guys29 here
>>5714109628 but I started a bit late.
>>57141096Just got 22
<1000 cards >F2P1000-1500 cards>Monthly pass1500-2000>dolphin2000+>whaleCorrect?
Just couldn't let it slide even though I'm practically out of wonderglasses, surely 32 glasses was worth it.Also>Top-leftCHADS stay winning
>>57141108I have 1300 cards opened as f2p
>>57141096
>>57141113How to get the celebi emblem
>>57141108Pretty sure someone got to 20K cards back in January, there should be a category above whale
>>57141112h-how
>>57141117Get immersive Celebi+Rainbow Mew+regular Budding+Slab
>>57141118>there should be a category above whaleFucking Krakens.
>>57141006Fair enough.
>>57141117Get cards in picrel
>>57141096Same as you
>>57141118But why? Surely you have every card in this game by this point?
I only have 1600 cards and can play 95% of relevant decks. How do people spend so much they end up with 20k cards
>>57141118>100 dollars for like 700 cards>1k for 7k cards>2.5kish for 20kKinda low for a gacha, bros...
>>57141119Uhh... I don't know. I didn't even start day 1.
>>57141132Addiction. I've seen their binders, just full of crown rares duplicates.
>>57141122>>57141129Damn just the need the rainbow mew I guess
>>57141019The former if I enjoyed the battle. The later if I want to get out of there.
>>57141118>back in January
>every "beginner" i face has celebi and mewtwo ex wtf
>>57141143*latter *former
>>57141132AddictionYou probably have every card in the game at like 300 dollars spent
>>57141010>up for 30 minuteskekaroo
>>57141149If no one reports it, no one knows about it.
>>57141132>haha I like Pikachu, let me choose the Pikachu one for my first pack :)>flairing your two Crown Mewtwo EX with the cool psychic explosion now means you need 7 copies of the card 210,000 extra shine dust
>Advance TicketIt's been there for months now, what the fuck is it
>>57141158>flairing your two Crown Mewtwo EX with the cool psychic explosion now means you need 7 copies of the card 210,000 extra shine dustOn rare cards, you can buy any flair with just 1 copy of the card, so it'd only take 4 copies. Though it'd still take 180k Dust.
>>57141165If we're lucky, it's a 10-pull of the next expansion.If we're unlucky, it's a 1-pull of the next expansion.
>>57141171F2P gods... we're gonna make it... we're gonna get those flaired out crown rares...
>>57141165Expires at the end of Jan, when the datamined date for Mainset 2(not confirmed) and trading(confirmed by devs to come in Jan) comesProbably some sort of trade currency, they give everyone a ticket to start off firstAll of that conjection is moot if it's just a placeholder date though (which it probably is)
>>57141158Actually, factually untrue. For star and crown cards have all of the flairs are available for purchase from the start.You can spend an extra 120,000 dust due to your flair route but you only need 4 copies of the card.
>>57141144Sorry I got the month wrong, the post was dated 23rd December 2024, though it didn't specify exactly when, just that $3,000 were spent apparently
My two zebstrikas put in the work doing chip damage everywhere
>>57141174>F2P gods... we're gonna make it... we're gonna get those flaired out crown rares...Actually, if you get 3 duplicate Crown Rares and are f2p, I'm like 100% sure the correct play is to redeem one of the Crown Rares for 64 of the luxury purse premium tickets: >>57140150
>>57141135>100 dollars for 700 cardsDamn, that's... pretty good? I don't know, is it goodSomeone think for me
>>57141186It is good.
>>57141186Nyo. This is how people realize after a couple months that they spent 500 dollars and regret it.The Premium pass is a pretty good deal though.
>>57141108I started day 1 of global and I'm a few cards away from 1500. The people that started in NZ were already at like 1000 cards. Completely F2P here. I have an alt that is just like a week away and has 1200+ cards.
>celery>tails tails>Waiting for>opponent to>return.
>tfw got a 50 dollar gift card for ChristmasBeen F2P so far, is the premium pass worth? Thinking of copping that once the new set gets here
>>57141186Good by gacha standards, you easily complete the mini pack with less than 100 dollars but also this: >>57141194A few hundred for every mainset and a hundred every miniset (every 6 weeks) eventually racks up to a bunchNot including the sales and/or the premium pass
>>57141205the premium pass is 100% the highest value deal, the issue is it is low dopamine because it is one pack a day for the month, so 10 dollars = 30 packs, for reference the highest value seasonal 10 dollar gold sale is about 18 and a half packs worth of gold
>>57141205It's the best value. Next card up will be Moltres ex with another basic art though, kinda shit
>>57141205If you want to squeeze more out of it you can just get the premium pass every other month and buy it the day before the premium missions roll over so that you're getting every month's Premium missions and getting all the limited premium accessories for half the price.
>>57141113why does everyone and their mother use the gary emblem?
>>57141233>relatively easy to unlock but not one of the defaults>whoa, he's a boy... just like me!>-10 damage taken from direct attacks
>>57141205premium pass is the best valueit's 1 additional pack every dayyou also get some neat cosmetics too i guess
>>57141238we need that blastoise event for the better emblem
>>57141240>Leave Gay-rados to me!
>>57141233Because the icon selection is kind of limited and a lot of them are a real pain in the ass to get. (seriously, who thought "collect 5 Mewtwo" was a good idea?)
>>57141268DeNA
>>57141268me
>new set not due until January 29thWell at the rate I'm going I should at least have like 500 or more hourglasses piled up, but fuck me that's a long way off
>>57141233That's Blue
>>57141293jump a bridge weeb
>>57141292helps me catch up
>>57141299Smell ya later
>opponent puts 2 Metal energy on Druddigon and concedesI was trying to play around a Pidgeot deck but in hindsight that would run Fire and Water energy. Melmetal runs Druddigon?
>>57141299He didn't say it was Green.
>>57141320Everyone runs Druddigon
>>57141002>noooooo the well-synergized deck of non-ex is…le broken!!
>>57141320Melmetal is the deck that needs Druddigon the most.
>>57141320meltan is shit and dies to a slight breeze, so it's easier to have it sit on the bench collecting energy while you have something in the active slot stalling for you. In theory, druddigon is the ideal choice for stalling because it's ability will do some damage even without it having any energy. In practice, the extra 20-40 damage you get with it before it dies isn't worth it and you're just giving your opponent a free point. At least with colorless decks there's some potential for it to hit back with fire+water energy, but as soon as you see any energy type that isn't fire/water/lighting, you know it's never going to attack you.
This aged poorly...
>>57141342The 20 damage isn't negligible because it puts common pokemon like Celebi, Mew, Zapdos, Articuno, and Starmie into revenge kill range with Melmetal. Mewtwo also if you have Giovanni.It's not a "free point" if it means you get to build up and switch in your boss monster safely and win from it.Of course at the end of the day we're essentially just talking about a worse Gyarados EX.
>>57141342>In practice, the extra 20-40 damage you get with it before it dies isn't worth it and you're just giving your opponent a free point.it lets it hit key breakpoints on celebi, starmie, and arcanine (after attacking). it also lets it KO mewtwo-ex with giovanni.
>>57141365>>57141369>breakpointsthis matters only when melmetal is set up, which if it's on the bench is going to take 4 turns minimum. Prior to that, potions let you attack druddigon with impunity or building up a better wincon mon on your own bench while waiting for the inevitable sabrina.
>>57141391Oh nooo please don't use potions while hitting Druddigon please anything but that!
Surely true Metal support will be coming in the next set r-right haha
Everything one-shots Weezing even without Druddigon chip. And if my opponent doesn't set up in time I have full heals. Feels good to be a Koga chad.
So is there any way to use Dragonite besides just “put Druddigon in front and pray you don’t brick”?
>>57141412>Johto set>not having good steel and dark stuffThey'd have to be crazy.
>>57141412Gen 2 belongs to Metal/Dark.
>>57141412WHat are you talking about anon, MI has Metal support.,
>>57141415Yeah, you can put something worse in front and pray you don't brick.
>spent like 30 hour glasses trying to get Gyarados >3rd CelebiAt least it's immersive, I will now play your coinflip deck
>its really easy to make meta decks in this game as a f2pHow do you justify this statement? Unless you reroll, that's the only time it makes sense. Most meta decks right now are running an average of 4 EX cards. Sticking to one pack won't help in that scenario, you're not getting the exact 4 EXs you need unless you have insane luck. Only someone who rerolled for most of their deck and then stuck to one pack to finish it off is easily finishing a meta deck as a F2P. For any other F2P its just a matter of RNG, and the rates aren't nearly good enough to build a 4 EX meta deck from scratch. Hell, even 1, 2, and especially 3 diamond cards can cuck you. The only other option is to farm the fuck out of the wonder pick discords.I wouldn't say the game is F2P unfriendly, its not at all. 2 free packs a day and there are several budget decks that are viable. But no one is shitting out several 4 EX meta decks without either rerolling, buying an account, or just getting really really lucky.
>japanese name>meta deck>takes up 10 minutes of match timename a more iconic trio
>>57141415>more health to tank more hits>dedicated support to let you save it for free and lets you reuse it so you're very unlikely to lose it>doesn't require additional energy types to attack>better revenge killer with genome hackingif you have the options, I highly reccomend using mew instead of druddigon.
>>57140749>people who hit for whatever amount of damage that doesn't even take out my Pokemon and then when it's my turn to finish them off, THEN they concedeThis never, not once, not ever, happen to me before Mirage Island. After Mirage Island it happens every single time. I always considered conceders cowards but at least before they fled with honor, now I have no respect for them. I never concede, that's my ninja way.
>>57141439>celery medal>perfect opening>misplaying wildly
>>57141412It'll be really sad if we don't get metal support with steelix and jasmine or other things. I get not putting in metal cards in the miniset but it's going to be miserable if there's nothing good for metal in the next booster.
>>57141449What the FUCK is with everyone walling to keep their Celebis off the field while trying to juice them? Is everyone following some crappy guides I'm not aware of? There's no strategy to this shit, just Marowak it and flip the fucking coins first chance you get STOP WASTING MY TIME AAAAAAAA
>>57141466>more energy = more coins to flip>more coins to flip = better chance to killit's not rocket science anon. I
I hit a 50 damage Powerful Bloom on my 5x2 energy Celebi and deleted the deck
Is Celebi not considered faggy anymore? Celebi is cute
>>57141436Unless you want your deck to be ready day 0, you can usually build at least two 4EX decks without discordtrannies, just normal wonderpicks and packs before the new booster drops,At which point your meta deck might not be so meta anymore but that's the name of the game.
>>57141412Same with Fairy support.
>>57141479Yes because the fags jumped ship to Gyarados.
>>57141436I'd say the only problem is that it can be hard to finish off a deck. Like I have everything I'd want from the Charizard EXCEPT 1 Moltres EX and 1 Machoke. I could keep pulling but that's retarded when there's more I want from other packs. I could use pack points, but those are too valuable to not save until the last minute.Now what you can actually do is add people to wonder pick from. That takes a bit of effort but is still easily doable f2p.It's not quite as f2p friendly as like, Master Duel, but it's still not hard to get playable decks over time.The real question is, how easy will it be to keep up with the meta? If all the current decks become shit when the next pack releases, and they don't give us a ton of free hour glasses, then that'll mean non-whales are left in the dust for a month or so. Maybe trading will fix this but I doubt it.
>>57141497A lot of my decks got really shit when the new pack dropped and I've had little luck trying to get a new meta deck going as a F2P, and considering it won't be that long until the next expansion, I severely doubt I'll have any luck keeping up with the meta in the future.
>>57141497I think it's fine if the deck is slightly suboptimal and needs to run something like one normal blastoise or normal machamp, since you'll eventually pull the other one normally or through wonder picks. >how easy will it be to keep up with the metaDepends. If they keep power creeping everything, then you'll need to whale every pack which would be annoying. If they don't, it might be hard for newer players down the line when they need specific supports or EX pokemon from 5-6 different packs.
>>57141436It's easy to F2P for those of us who were in early but anyone starting late is fucked. Pocket's only been out for 60ish days and the meta has shifted enough that if you haven't been regularly running the dailies and events since start you won't be able to make up enough glass or cards to have a versatile collection to make a functioning deck before the next expansion drops, at which point you're stuck playing catch up. I'm already seeing a lot of lower levels trying to jump into versus getting totally trashed. They need to either start giving decks out completely a la Live or they need to change the rental system and their decks to not be complete and total ass.
>>57141436>How do you justify this statement?>>57139772>The only cards that are "difficult" to obtain are 3-diamond cards that aren't available as full arts.
>card comes out>card is good>people play it>everyone gets pissy at people using itI guess everyone should be running Gogoat mirrors or some shit
>>57141481>At which point your meta deck might not be so meta anymore but that's the name of the game.Yeah see the two main meta cards this pack has been Mew and Gyarados, and I've yet to get a single copy of either. I'm sure I'll get them eventually, but with the next expansion coming out so soon I'll already be behind by the time I do.>>57141537There's absolutely no practical way to build a 4 EX deck from scratch as a F2P in any reasonable timeframe. The key word here being from scratch. EXes themselves aren't hard to obtain, but the 4 specific EXes you need for your meta deck absolutely are.
>>57140102>make single change to deck>could be only adding a potion>deck now has 2 new energy types that you never agreed to add
>>57141436>How do you justify this statement?All of the key cards of the meta decks have the most instances of cards within a pack. Take Mew, for example. You can get the Mew EX, you can get the 2* Sparkly Mew, you can get the Rainbow Mew, and you can get the Crown Mew. You're more likely to get Mew than a random Rare card. >Unless you reroll, that's the only time it makes sense.Wrong. >Most meta decks right now are running an average of 4 EX cards. Sticking to one pack won't help in that scenarioWrong.>you're not getting the exact 4 EXs you need unless you have insane luck. True. You keep rolling *the same pack* (retard) until you get them. Or you fish for them in WP. My alt account with shitty luck got 2 Mews and 2 Celebis from WP before the 45 win event started. >Only someone who rerolled for most of their deck and then stuck to one pack to finish it off is easily finishing a meta deck as a F2P.Wrong. I'm f2p and have been playing since about halfway through the Lapras event. I can make every meta deck. You stick to one pack until you have the cards, you target WPs that have the cards you want, and then you switch packs when you have everything. If I can do this - with ease - on 2 different accounts, you can do it on one. >For any other F2P its just a matter of RNG, and the rates aren't nearly good enough to build a 4 EX meta deck from scratch. Completely wrong. Everything you say is wrong. Do you even play this game? Are you on day 1 of your late start account and bitching that you don't already have every card? Get over yourself.>The only other option is to farm the fuck out of the wonder pick discords.Wrong. WP discords are for FA Trainer farming and Rainbow card farming and 2* Sparkly card farming. WP discord are for *chase card* farming, they are not for bare-minimum-to-make-a-deck farming. You literally do not know anything about anything.
>>57141555If you have a new account you have enough wonder glass to just grab the FA Pokemon ex from godpack WPs.If you don't have a new account you should already have most of the FAs just from spending wonder stamina.The only decks that are a hassle to make are ones where you need things like Gardevoir, Raichu, or Golem.
>>57141537Nvm I noticed the post you linked mentioned "cheesing the friend system", which is true and I already mentioned that. Although if you have shit luck sooner or later as the game progresses you might get fucked over by hourglasses.
>>57141575>you might get fucked over by hourglasses.I probably will at some point but unless they rework the friend system I'm still getting 15 FAs a month without spending glass.
>>57141551It would be nice if other cards like gogoat could be viable to use instead of being relegated to meaningless deckfodder while the two new mythicals are meta redefining
I'm getting desperate and the game knows itNeed: pidg and aero Ex to finish islandsThe regular not the special art!Need a 2nd gyarados ex for deck purposesNeed a 2nd machamp ex, and zard exI don't want anymore fucking moltres ex and celebi cards reee!Here I am with 20 packs worth of glasses saved up, and I'm about to blow them looking for these cardsSomeone talk me back from the edge
>>57141587>Here I am with 20 packs worth of glasses saved up, and I'm about to blow them looking for these cards>Someone talk me back from the edgeDon't do it bro. You're just gonna get nothing and be mad about it. You'll get Pidgeot and Aero eventually. You'll get Gyarados eventually. Especially if you haven't opened your 60 packs for the achievement yet. Machamp EX and Zard EX are gonna be a bit harder because most people are opening MI rather than GA, but it's still a possibility through WP. Machamp is just bad, but Zard may see a resurgence because he can kill Gyarados.
>>57141583It's impossible to not have a top tier jn a game with hundreds of cards, that's just how it works
>>57141603>Zard may see a resurgence because he can kill Gyarados.Just the opposite, he's too slow to deal with Gyarados. Moltres decks are leaning hard into Arcanine to kill Druddigon quickly.
One thing about this game is that it really drip feeds you. These event rewards fucking suck. But also they have multiple events running at a time so it all adds up to a decent amount. And you can barely save up to spend all at once on a new pack. You really don't get a ton of hourglasses to do that with. But your collection grows at a reasonable pace with the daily free packs.
>>57141604I get that but it's annoying when that there's clear favoritism for the pack mascots instead of trying to make an actually balanced card game. It's obnoxious that after mythical island dropped many decks got changed to deck+mew because it's obnoxiously good at multiple things. If they don't try to keep things more even across the board or tone down the favoritism, then it'll inevitably lead to power creep to keep people pulling on new cards, even though you don't need to power creep to keep people interested in new cards.
>>57141617>Moltres decks are leaning hard into Arcanine to kill Druddigon quickly.They were doing that since before Gyarados, and they were doing it for Mew and Celebi. Arcanine becoming the primary wincon of the Moltres deck has nothing to do with Gyarados. >Just the opposite, he's too slow to deal with Gyarados. That's possible. Arcanine isn't beating Gyarados though. We are only just now seeing decks adapt to Gyarados. It's possible that Zard is the answer in the Moltres deck, because it's not Arcanine, and it's not Mew.
>>57141617>too slow to kill gyaradoswhat?>moltres gives up to 3 energy every turnit's even better with arcazard because arcanine can get active 2 turns faster than gyarados if they don't immediately pull and get lucky with misty. not a "good" matchup necessarily but very doable.
If this game isn't f2p friendly then explain how I just managed to flair one of my Pokedexes.
>>57141567>You're more likely to get Mew than a random Rare card.This made me curious and apparently I've gotten 7 rares from MI but zero Mew ex yet. Not counting all the other ex and FAs I got of course. Do you guys really just have a fuckton of Mew ex?
Moltres Volcarona is honestly pretty solid. It's a shame Larvesta retreats for 2.
>>57141660why didnt no one tell me this card is bonkers with pidgeot ex?
>>57140314That's what I play. But instead of 2 potions, I use second Sabrina and red card.
>>57141659I don't think your that much more likely to get mew but if you were saving prior to mythical island, a 10 pack should have netted you a mew or celebi at the very least. I've pulled 2 normal celebis, an immersive, one full art mew and one crown mew.
>>571416602 energy burn for 80 is ridiculous even for a sniper PokemonHope Volcaroma EX is better
>>57141672Yeah I got Celebi and Aero, no Mew though.
Every Christmas pack was a dud, no rare No chansey pick yetI feel nothing but pain
>>57141619That's a gacha game for you
>>57141659>Do you guys really just have a fuckton of Mew ex?If you're asking me personally... uh, yeah. I actually don't have the regular Mew EX though. What I was talking about though is this:>Random rare: 0.625%>Mew: 0.393% (0.333% + 0.050% + 0.040%)So actually I was wrong. I was thinking about the GA packs where you can pull the Immersives also:>GA Random rare: 0.357%>GA Mewtwo EX: 0.623% (0.013% + 0.222% + 0.055% + 0.333%)I just assumed they were the same rate as GA.
>>57141716No there are several popular gacha that give you jack shit most of the time then suddenly bombard you with tons of free shit out of nowhere. GBF was like that when I played it.
Finally, after weeks, a second Frogadier. I can finally make some Greninja shit.
I HAVE PULLED SIX FUCKING MAGNEMITES FROM THIS DUMBASS EVEN AND BARELY ANYTHING ELSE
>>57141744What do you need?
>>57141737I bought my 2nd frogadier months ago and i still havent pulled anotherStill no kanga or moltres after only pulling Charizard This game is rigged
>>57141748Literally anything else because I have so many fucking Magnemites
>>57141716I haven't played many but in my experience they usually drip feed you currency that you can then spend all at once when something you want releases. Pocket doesn't really give you much currency(hourglasses) but instead just gives you 2 packs a day that can't be saved for a future set.I was expecting this to be supplemented by the solo mode and type outbreak events giving decentish EX pokemon to build around and playable decks, but the current and future ones don't look as good as Lapras EX and Blaine.The free packs do add up to a good amount, but it is pretty slow going.
>>57141756I guess progress on F2P is slow compared to being a massive paypig dumping hundreds on gold but I feel like I'm hoarding hourglasses at a fairly decent rate, and I'll have enough shop tickets when the shops refresh jn a few days to basically buy the whole store out immediately for another large tally of hourglasses to add to my pile.
>>57141722Oh I see, but my luck wasn't any better there either. 10 Mewtwo pack rares, 10 Charizard pack rares, no Mewtwo ex or Charizard ex. I definitely did wonder pick some of these though, but just a few, just a Melmetal and a Dragonite to complete those decks pretty sure.
>>57141748I went in to the event needing a 2nd Electabuzz and a 2nd Galvantula. I got the Galvantula but I still haven't seen the Electabuzz. Did get 3 Magnemites though.>>57141744I know, right? We're already swimming in Magnemites from the Chansey event.
>>57141722>I just assumed they were the same rate as GA.Rarity tiers are the same frequency as GA but each card in that rarity is equally likely and the number of cards of each rarity varies from one set to another.There's actually 1 less 2-star card in GA-M2 than in GA-Zard and GA-Pika so the offering rates for 2-stars (or any FAs in godpacks) are "better" in GA-M2 than in the rest of GA.
>>57141766The hourglass number goes up pretty quickly when you save, but it's a lot less impressive when you divide by 12. 70 monthly ticket hourglasses is nice, but it's only enough for 5 packs. Or 2 and a half day's worth. 40 daily mission hourglasses per month is nice too, but that's still only enough for 2 more day's worth.The vast majority of your resources comes from stamina which cannot be hoarded to make sure you get the newest stuff needed to keep up with the meta.Oh well, it's still too early to say for sure how this all will shake out in the long-term.
>>57141148I spent around 100 dollars total buying only promo gold packs and I still don't have all non-FA ga cards. I still don't have exeggutor ex and starmie ex
>>57141789>There's actually 1 less 2-star card in GA-M2 than in GA-Zard and GA-Pika so the offering rates for 2-stars (or any FAs in godpacks) are "better" in GA-M2 than in the rest of GA.Interesting. I only ever looked at the Mewtwo pack and then I just assumed that the rates were the same for all of them (including, very mistakenly, MI)
>>57141798It's because GA-M2 only has 2 gym leaders.
>>57141640Raichu kind of does if drudd gets chip damage
Can we all just send a message to DeNA via the in-game means in order to tell them to cancel the 5 in a row event next month? Playing in the current PVP event it's just insufferable
Thanks tyler
>>57141813It's not Tyler's fault you suck
>>57141811>the in-game means"the in-game means" are a button that opens your web browser
>>57141813I don't even get lucky enough to run into 2 EX WPs, let alone fail them.
>>57141820Yeah I just mean that path
>>57141583You have people pulling out chatots, persians, solo salandits and half of the fighting type once considered to be shit, how is that not enough? I’m sure you could pop Gogoat in a Serperior deck and win a couple on ladder if you really wanted to
>>57141832https://support.pokemon.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=23804437241108
>>57141813Damn, that is really unfortunate
>>57140357That's when I put energies on one of my Drudd to swing for 90 and bring you in range
>>57141837Oh thanks, I'll bookmark this page
>>57141835because all of those things are shit anon, that hasn't changed. >I’m sure you could pop Gogoat in a Serperior deck and win a couple on ladder if you really wanted toobviously you could slot one or two of any card into an actually meta deck and win, it's just annoying when so many cards are just shit and wasted space.
>>57141818#justiceforTyler
>>57141863>it's just annoying when so many cards are just shit and wasted space.This is just TCG, and also it is just gacha. Most units in gacha are shit, most cards in TCG are shit. At least in games like Magic, the shit cards are usually decent Draft deck fodder. No such thing here.
>>57141873People play different formats
DeNA...you know you want to add more Mews...
anyone else think full art trainer cards are total bullshit? Ive spent like maaaybe 50 bucks since playing and i only have a misty from a wonder pick. The rates to get one are so atrocious i saw someone get to 2500 pocket points with zero full art leafs.
>>57141887>does a random amount of damage lelWas this one of the Game Boy exclusives?
>>57141887>that second mew>play it in any game where the opponent uses evolutions>prioritize killing all their basics, then after they finish evolving everything drop this>game is now unwinnable for them while you spend 12-19 turns whacking at their HPHoly shit.
>>57141436You're not really supposed to have a tier 1 deck on day 1. This game is so luck-based that you can often get away with running jank. You won't win as consistently, but you won't lose 100% of the time if your jank is funcitonal.
>>57141892Yes.
>>57141887>expeditioner only works on mew ex and not on regular mew
>>57141892Yes. The base damage is 10 and there are 8 outcomes:nothing special,poison, sleep, confusion, paralysis,heal 10, +10 damage,attack fails
>>57141894Not nearly as crazy in the world of Chansey/Scyther/Hitmonchan that that card released in
Got my first rainbow, it was mew.It was in my alt (I swear that one did better pulls with this new set but I never got to open mewtwo packs. I guess I'll open 1 mew and 1 mewtwo pack for the time being there. Only shit I'm lacking now is Gyarados on both accounts.
>>57141903I for one would appreciate the impact of that Mew on the meta.
>>57141863They’re clearly not shit if they’re doing well in tournaments and becoming more common in ladder matches.
>>57141889>anyone else think full art trainer cards are total bullshit?Nah, I think they're cute.
>>57141894That card was pretty legendary during Pokemania, to the point where people called it "Lily Pad Mew" since it was brought up so often. It was a year 1 promo card in Japan and lead to a LOT of people awaiting it in the US because of how potentially powerful it was.We didn't get it until well into gen 2.
>>57141583>anons first introduction to basic core set cardsIf there's one thing snap did right, it was high evolutionary making the basics actually usable, usually the boulderfist ogres of the world suck outside of draft or pauper formats
>>57141905Nice, I got my first rainbow mew christmas eve
>>57141887>>57141892To be fair "a random number of damage" is exactly what the new Eevee does, just weighted towards lower numbers.
>>57141894>>57141911>Mewtwo largely unaffected (damage by basics)>Pika largely unaffected (damage by basics outside of raichu)>Celebi largely unaffected (damage by basics)It really only hits Misty decks (except Articuno), Koga, Moltres, and I guess Blaine if you count that as meta. All it would do is send us back to the GA meta of MewtwoxPika, but now Celebi is there too. I was already tired of that meta before GA finished.
>>57141952Most basics can 2-shot it.
I'd rather we don't have a card that renders stage 2 mons even more shit thank you very much.It's already rough enough out here for my poor Florges
>>57141959That's fine. It still only hits lesser-meta decks, outside of Gyarados. It would just make the most meta decks even better, while making the lesser-meta decks worse. It'd be an oppressive card in an already oppressive game. It'd make brews even worse than they already are. It's a bad card for the meta. It wouldn't shake anything up, it would take us back to GA, guest starring Celebi.
i'm out of deck ideas againthere's no more outliers to toy with
>>57141950Not really, since the vehicle for that randomness is not tied to coin flips. In fact no method of determining what result you get is given, which is what gives it away as a video game card.
>>57141988Be the savior who makes Pidgeot EX and/or Aero EX good.
>>57140943
>>57142000tried DruddigeotEX and Galvantula+EXgeotnothing to write home about in either regard
>>57141934Nice. The past few threads made it seem like everyone was getting cool shit on xmas but my main didn't get shit.
>>57142000Pidgeot EX would be really fun if you could feasibly use regular Pidgeot with it instead of being stuck with Victreebel.
>>57141913>chatot and persian are doing wellfucking where? some one off tournament with 20 entrants?>>57141988I tried a starmie ex/vaporeon/omastar deck, but I couldn't get it to work. Maybe you would have better luck.>>57142011I think people are getting incorrectly hung up on making their pidgeot the main sweeper but it fundamentally works best after something has already died. Druddigon can't work as an opener to kill things and setup pidgeot, so you would need some lower energy cost 1 or 2 energy attacker that could actually kill something. maybe it would work in a pseudo blaine deck with ninetails or something like that.
>>57142000I’ve been having fun with Aero ex, but I’m also convinced that the game gives my deck easier matchups for the most part. If deck weight is real, then the game thinks Aero is a joke (and it’s mostly correct).
>>57142054I use him with MI rapidash, I have had decent success but blaine is not going to workyou need at least one sabrina, giovanni and poke flute to allow pidgeot to one-shot (particularly mewtwo), if you have two oak, two blaine, sabrina and gio that's a lot of supporters and not all are going to be practical
>>57142054I've been using it with Exeggutor EX and it works pretty well as long as you don't get screwed by your draws, which of course is always possible one way or the other when you have a stage 1 and stage 2 in your deck. Weezing also seems like a good choice but has the same issue.
>oak>oak>pokeball>pokeballbottom 4
>>57142096>stage 1>oak>stage 1bottom 3
>>57141988I tried making exless raichu with farfetch'd but electric has no good secondary attacker if you don't use pika
>>57142133galvantula? jolteon? electrode? Zapdos?
>>57142144those are stage 1s that get 1 shot by every relevant card when you could swap types and play marshadow or some shit
>>57141562attaku wizu duroddigon gaijin-kun
>>57142133funny yayoi
>>57142054Persian-Machamp team went 11-1 in a 256~ man, I don’t know either man
>>57142151>swap and play marshadowwhy would I switch to a shit card in a shit archetype? do you play the game or just say things?
>>57142096You played a blinder of a game if you made it to the bottom 4 at all with that draw, I would take that as a W
>>57142188It was impressive, so close too.
>>57142213Holy shit! That like 5 dollars!
>>57142213Holy fuck what are people spending money on
I swear to god the game is purposefully matching me against my weakness type
>>57142222That's higher than you can count to
Besides golem what are some good decks that don't have an EX pokemon in them?
>>57142227I bought the discounted pokégold
>>57142241I'm getting matched with people with suboptimal decks and people who missplay heavily. Just dueled a guy with Victribell deck.
im gonna make that 2x hitmonlee netdeck and kill magikarp niggers
>>57142247Koga and Blaine are the good ones.Druddinja+Flareon, and Primape+Marshadow are almost good.
>>57142162>he thinks marshadow is a shit card after listing galvantula, electrode and jolteonok
>>57142253link?
>>57142241Everyone is playing water and psychic. If your weakness is fighting, grass, or darkness you're unlucky. If your weakness is fire or metal the game hates you.
>alakazam doesnt oneshot min energy gyaradosit's over
>>57142227There are some serious whales out there, I know for sure some dude has multiple all FA decks with maxed flairs
>>57142288charizard does
>brick on Taurosoh no>against mewtwooh we're fine
>>57142247I wouldn't call it a good deck but I still get wins with Melmetal. Its very vulnerable to getting fucked by fire and mewtwo decks though, which is a lot of decks. But against anything else it can do really well. I feel like part of it is just because people just don't know how to play around it. For example the deck shuts down Pikachu pretty hard, but I think Pikachu can win if it invests in Zapdos instead. I've never seen anyone ever do this though, they always go straight for Pikachu and lose.
>>57142294Charizard doesn't have spoons.
Hello frens,I tested a shit ton more today, playing everything from the T1 decks to Celebi to Golem to Charizard.Some thoughts on what I learned today:Celebi is just a worse Mewtwo. I've tried new eggs, old eggs ex, the green Lapras, 4 basics, and none of the builds seemed like they had much of any advantage over Mewtwo.Golem is a deck that is quite powerful when you curve into your stage 2. I think playing less than 2 hitmonlee is a mistake with how prevalent Gyrados is these days. I'd always play a Marshadow too, for sure. The deck would be SO MUCH stronger if we had a PokeBall for non-basics. As is right now though, it feels impossible to win without 1 research, and you often need 2. Your good games you pretty much lose to nothing but Charizard, but your bad games outnunber the good by a lot. I'm interested to see if there's another way to play hitmonlee and Marshadow without a stage 2. I don't have a 2nd marowack ex, kek, so I didn't get to test a most aggressive fighting deck, but it seemed like not the worst idea in the world.I was very VERY impressed with Zard these days. Yes, Mew is basically unbeatable, but there's less and less Mew each day. The deck has a great matchup against any deck play druddigon. Your Mewtwo matchup is a bit rough because of how often they'll find their singleton Mew, and Pika is also a bit rough if they have a fast start and you don't curve into charmeleon quickly. Having essentially an auto win vs. Druddigon decks and still at least 35-40% matchups against the other t1 decks is honestly not the worst place to be if you're expecting lots of slower decks. Charizard is pretty much the only thing that will beat Gyrados literally every time. I messed with lots of different builds of Pika today too. I like zebras, but I also like Raichu. I tried to fit both in but it just wasn't working. I think Electabuzz is a reasonable card to play instead of Dedenne if you don't have zebras. Raichu is obviously great vs the mirror and Mewtwo
Where's Sharticuno boys? (I always pick the same spot, but it's fun to make these kinds of posts.
>>57142309Have you tried 2 Charizard ex and 1 non-ex Charizard to not fold as hard to Mew ex?
>>57142312Top center
>>57142314No, but that sounds breddy good idea. Thank you sir.
>>57142312top right never doubt
>>57142309How’s the Golem matchup vs Celebi? Seems like you either need to curve one or Marsh+Gio but I could see that being hard to set up if they yolo you
>>57142315You were right.Trairbros...
Figures during the streak event I couldn't get anything going and now using a fossil fishing gimmick deck I just did 5 in a row no problem
>>57142326Top middle chads win again
>>57142337Maybe deck strength matchmaking does exist
>>57142337>>57142340As soon as I got my 5 streak emblem, I started going on 5 winstreaks with any deck I played like it was nothing. I even went on an 11 win streak with Greninja Tentacruel, fighting Mewtwos and even Pikas. Whatever the matchmaking is, I think it becomes incredibly lax after you no longer need 5 wins, and whatever the post-5winstreak matchmaking is, is what the default matchmaking is.It's all schizo shit anyway though. We don't actually know anything, and it's all anecdotal.
>>57142314I tried this in the previous meta. I did not like it. Seems like flexing into a Charizard that is worth 1 point is never really that great, but it does help get *a* Charizard out. Thing is, you're usually fishing for the Charmeleon, not the Zard. The Zard/Canine list that was popular in the previous meta seems like probably the best Moltres deck to me right now. You still have Arcanine for Celebi and Mew, but you also have Zard for Gyarados.
>>57142309celebi in most cases is actually just a worse marrowak lmao
>>57142324Celebi steamrolls Golem unfortunately
>>57142324Gio is a must on a golem to counter celebi since it allows golem to OHKO one with full HP however if the coinflips and draws don't go your way you're probably going to get ass fucked
>>57142373I still think it's impressive people actually lost their shit about celebi being broken day 1, guess they were some shitter that got buck broken by a couple above average results
>>57142417I am convinced the average player cannot see any coin flipping card rationally or objectively
>>57142417I looked at some of the recent results from a tournament today and some Pikas did really well, checked the matchups since they were both Zeb teams and I was wondering how they beat Celebi…they didn’t go up against it once. I think it’ll be more common on ladder than tournaments but that’s a crazy dropoff still
Cockblocking people's decks with Psyduck is never not funny.
I HATE CELEBI EXI HATE CELEBI EXI HATE CELEBI EX
>>57142227gambling addiction
>ex old eggs hard counters jynx and alakazam trying to get me for having serperiorthis is a good feeling
>>57142438I would guess pika does well against celbi, it can get guaranteed 60-90 turn 2 very easily while celebi has to flip coins averaging 50 damage turn 2, and is unlikely to get serperior up turn 3
>>57142227I bought the waifu merch
>>57142501>only paid cosmetics pander to waifu fagsfeels bad man
https://youtu.be/hse1yW1ivjA
>>57142502>none of it is for waifus I likeThis is both good and bad.
>>57142511if they ever put in a marnie or lillie full art, people are going to lose their minds pulling for them.
>>57142227I've battled a guy with almost 12000 cards a month ago, the pokemon logo makes people whale out like crazy.
>>57142516We call that a "panic button" for gacha devs
>>57142516For me, it's Iris, Nessa, Hilda, or Cynthia. Or Sabrina. Sabrina is here, but she didn't get the coin and playmat treatment like Erika did.
>>57142531We need more than one fucking coin type that lasts like 3 months in the shop but I don't expect Dena to be that smart
2x Farfetched2x Marshadw2x Hitmonlee2x Aero2x Amber2x Oak2x Pokeball2x Sabrina2x Giovanni2x X SpeedThis is the most honorable deck currently
>>57142531....aren't Iris and Hilda like 14 or something...
>>57142560The rest of pokegirls is either 11 or 30.
>>57142549I really don't understand their monetization model. It's like DeNA doesn't understand that they've got Pokemon on their hands. The coin/playmet Pokegold set seems to last for the entire expansion (3 months). I don't know why they'd roll this out so slowly. Unless they plan for the game to continue for 10 years and they're incredibly slow rolling all the waifus (and hubandos). I don't think that's really smart though. The hype is now. They should be rotating monthly like the monthly pass shop does. People aren't going to care about this game in 3-5 years even if it's still kept alive by the whales. There's no reason to slow roll the waifus this slowly. The current pace is 4 waifus per year, and I have to imagine it's not going to be just waifus.
>>57142560>....aren't Iris and Hilda like 14 or something......out of 10!
>>57142560its so funny that you never see people make a big deal about someone wanting to fuck a pokemon but this shit is posted every single time lmao
>>57142560Yes and she isn't real too.
How's this for a cardMalomar, 2 energy 100 damageYour opponents deck is now face up
>never draw arcanine>just power up the 2 moltres on the field and stemroll my opponentlol i love this card.
I swear if I see one more Drudigon Misty deck I'm gonna explode.
>>57142518Its still really hard for me to believe this game has what 405 cards? Do you really need to pull that crown card that bad?
>>57142603You can say "Gyarados"
>>57142476>Enemy Celebi rolls 6 tails in a rowSucks to suck, lucklet!
>>57142516Since every gym leader/trainer is getting a full art, when the Alolians come out everyone is going to be trying to get their hands on them.
>Reminder:SAVE YOUR PACKSYou will need to collect 100 cards in 7 days beginning on New Years. If you are f2p and don't want to waste hourglasses, DO NOT OPEN this pack. Save it. You need to save all login packs going forward. You also need to refrain from opening your 2 daily packs on 12/31.
>>57142268>>57142303Thanks for the responses, im playing in a shitty tournament that has a no EX rule and was trying to think about what I could go up against. i'm running a golem deck, realized I will probably be fucked if my opponent uses exeggcutor unless I can smash their eggs with a hitmonlee.
>>57142585 you just know Furfags aren't real they can't hurt you
>>57142622>You will need to collect 100 cards in 7 days beginning on New YearsFor what?
>>57142247Greninja Tentacruel was a really fucking good no EX deck last patch. Not sure how it fares this patch.
>>57140102What do you guys think of this deck? I've been trying different things out like running 2 mags with 2 drudd. but it's starting to seem like I never need or want 2 magnaton on my bench because raichu is my win condition and he'll be revenge KO easy.2 drudd seems to take up a lot of space too in most situations I don't want to play two I seem to do best if I can quickly get energy on 1 raichu while magneton is up or when having 2 raichu with near full energy. Also, I think zap Ex is a better wall but it gives up 2 prizes. Maybe I can try a version with 2 zap instead. but the chip helps deal with gyarados.
>>57142628https://ptcgp.raenonx.cc/en/mission/group/MI_GR_2408010_NEWYEAR_0112 pack hourglasses for the 100 card mission12 WP hourglasses for completing all missions (including 100 cards)
>>571422472 Scolipede line2 nuKoffing/old Weezing1 nuSalandit2 Leaf2 Koga2 Oak2 Pokéball1 Xspeed
>>57141813MI Pidgeotto exists literally only to brick wonder picks. 3 energy for 50 damage is a fucking joke.
>>57142476Look at this turn 1
>>57142646Didn't matter :^)
I completed a secret "museum" mission that gave me 36 WP hourglasses, and it made me realize that I don't need to keep opening MI packs anymore. I have a playset of everything except Aero EX. I could have been fishing for a Sabrina godpack for the past few days I think.
>>57142638SayA1-222 A1-222 A1-243 A1-243 A1a-49A1a-49 A1a-53 A1a-53 A1a-54 A1a-54A1a-55 A1a-55 A1a-68 A1a-68 A1a-71P-A-02 P-A-05 P-A-05 P-A-07 P-A-07like a normal person.
What are the best Celebi hate cards right now?
Give FA oak
>>57142656pretty much any meta deck besides golem
>>57142656Flareon
>>57142654
>>57142646I like old egg + egg ex better in my celebi
>>57142560I know you're shitposting but people getting worked up over fictional ages are so fucking miserable.
Is Mew EX runnable? I probably can't make a good deck anyway, so I'll probably stick to admiring its cute art.
>>57142659Lets assume I only just started playing like a week ago and don't have all the meta cards.>>57142661I'll keep this in mind.
>>57142671You can put it in most decks as a defensive glue
>>57142671>is one of the most splashable EX's with a koga like supporter runnableI don't know man
>>57142671It's an early game tank and late game sweeper that can run in any energy. It's very versatile.
>>57142671Mewtwo always runs 1 copy, Moltres often runs 2 copies, and it shows up in random decks than want a wall.It's a worse wall than Druddigon but I ran into a Gyardos deck today running 2 Druddigon + at least 1 Mew ex, because they wanted more consistency than 2 Druddigon.2 Mew ex 2 Celebi ex 16 Trainers is also a deck.
So what's the verdict on new Rapidash?
>>57142656Weezing farting on it and attacking once then pivoting into Salandit kills the celery.
>>57142689I don't like it.>>57142656I got 45 wins as Koga and lost multiple games to Mewtwo that I would have won if my opponent were Celebi.
>>57142656Arcanine
>>57142689Too slow. Gotta Blaine fast.Fire decks already have enough energyvore cards, there's no room for a slower Rapidash if you're gonna run Rapidash.
>>57142687Why would Moltres want it when it reduces the chances of drawing your basic to feed?
>>57142689Noob trap because they see the funny coin flip and think it adds value.
>>57142689Shouldn't it be a straight upgrade since its attack is guaranteed to at minimum do the same amount and odds are with it being a stage 1 you will be able to put 2 energy on it anyway?
>>57142687>2 Mew ex 2 Celebi ex 16 Trainers is also a deck.why
>>57142707Some drop Zard for full Arcanine so it helps the Mewtwo matchup
>>57142707Genome Hacking is pretty good.The deck is 2 Moltres 2 Arcanine 1-2 Mew. If Mew comes out to early he sponges damage and Budding Expeditioner chases him away. If he comes out on time you pile energy on to him while Inferno Dancing and he cleans up after Arcanine.>>57142722Who's to say. Believe it or not it has a better winrate than Celebi decks running Dhelmise and essentially the same winrate as Celebi decks running less than 2 Exeggutor ex.
>>57142689GA Rapidash is great for when you get stuck with turn one. You can evolve and attack right away on turn 3 while your opponent is stuck with basics. The only things that can kill it from full health in turn 4 have to rely on coin flips. Ninetales is just better for big damage. If you're running a blaine deck, it's better to not waste a blaine on a bad coin flip. Worst of all: The art is ugly
>>57142719>Shouldn't it be a straight upgradeThe energy cost is what's in question. Can't attack with it going first, and might not want to "sacrifice" the energy on Rapidash if you have a Ninetales ready to go.
>>57142613>405 cardsNOW. It was the middle of november, you have to count mythical island out of equation.
Oh yeah, this mew+arcanine deck is what im using for the 5 win streak, this shit is mad good. Tempted to bust out the charizard but he loses so bad to mew, im afraid to use it desu
40 wins with Florges now, should I just go for the last 5?
>>571427302molt 2 mew 2 arcanine sounds very brickable or at least exploitable. I'd rather go drudd ninja ark9
>>57142758post deck
>>57142759Be honest. Do you play this game?
>>57142759Its very flexible, moltres is one of the best tanks with 140hp and arcanine needs a mere 3 energy. It got 2nd to the golem deck last week, its already proven itself
>>57142762https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1735199343024316.png
>turn 3 serperior opp goes second etc etc>his celebi goes and prepares a humiliation ritual for him and i winaha just flip better next time lad :-)
>>57142636>inb4 it's just different packs combos of the old cards
>>57142770>>turn 3 serperiorCan't be done.
>>57142771...what are you talking about?
>>57142763>>57142765the main reason is that I hate moltres stall, but first mon moltres + no dog early in the back is basically free setup for the opponent. At least with 2 molt you get to attack
When is a game considered "bricked" for one player?
>>57142779going first is half way there
>>57142779When they draw ass
>>57142774my bad, so it's just a paypig event to get 12 hourglasses?
>>57142779I get 2 Leaf's and 2 Stage 3 Evo's in my opening hand
>>57142779When you can't meaningfully improve your board on your turn.
>>57142768I'm not sure how to feel about anons posting my deck in reply to somelone lmao
>>57142783Please just read the posts I made and the link I posted. Or don't. I don't give a shit.
>>57142795You only need 12 additional hourglasses to complete the 100 card challenge.
>>57142779If your running any stage 2 pokemon you will be bricked about 8/10 games
>>57142801You do not need to use any additional hourglasses if you could just read. I'm not going to reply to this anymore. I'm too tired, and this conversation is a waste.
Is Growlithe the worst basic there is?
>>57142801…therefore, if you’re FtP, you end up with a net gain of zero pack hourglasses if you don’t start saving your free gift packs now instead. You’ll get free WP ones if you do everything else along with other rewards too, though. It’s not a paypig event, just learn to read.
>>57142811nah
>>57142689This motherfucker flips heads 100% of the fucking time unless it's me genome hacking it
>>57142743Still ludicrous after 1500 packs you would have enough pack points to get all 3 of the gold crown rarity cards and would almost certainly have received all the other cards and probably at least 1 of those cards. I refuse to believe someone would care about getting the flares enough to spend thousands of dollars more on the game.
>>57142811it's not amazing on it's own but the payoff is great and it's more reasonable to feed it 2 energy, especially with moltres.This piece of shit on the other hand is completely useless. >3 energy to attack>measly 60 damage>only 80 hp so it can't tank the hits and doesn't get support from brock>3 retreat cost so even Leaf won't save your energy investment. >evo has 4 energy cost attack that only does 100 damage and 4 energy retreat>evo has less health than mew or celebiprobably close to a thousand games played and I don't think I've seen a single person using it.
>>57142814Who's worse than him? Two fucking energies and I can't even kill a fucking Magikarp unless I Giovanni? He's completely worthless
>>57142819That guy had a showcase with like 4 of each crown rares and a bunch of immersives, it's probably addiction at that point.I posted about it on vp when I found the guy, there was a screenshot attached that I am too fucking lazy to search for. Just so you know I'm not making this shit up.
>>57141446>Mirage Islandfound the japanese learner
>>57142866>>57142866>>57142866
>>57142268Druddinja Flareon is very good with Mew which lets you scare mewtwo and gyarados, but that adds an EX of courseBut if there is an EX-less meta, druddinja flareon is so good; I get so many wins with it with or without mew
>>57142689love him
BUFF WATER DECKS!!!!!!!!
>>57142516I'm already saving hourglasses for when a Marnie full art comes out.
>>57142931Is this real??
Since no one's here anymore I declare myself the king of /tcgp/ ^^
>I have 3 energy alakazam >Opponent only has 2 energy mewtwo ex>But opponent has gardevoir>So next turn it can revenge with 4 energyFuck me i wish there was a way to stop that, like block energy or removal
>>57140874nothing better than 2 heads on mewtwo niggers