What the fuck are these stats? What is gamefreaks obsession with taking away speed for a mega??? At least Zeraora looks decent i guess
>>58534747>Heatran Looks fine. Losing speed when he was already base 77 isn't a big deal. More SpAtk is nice as is more SpDef. More attack is interesting as its physical movepool is very good so it means that it wont be walled by blissey or something. >DarkraiVery bizzare stat spread. Trying to make him bulkier is a choice but I can kinda see it. The ability would hopefully be noguard so he can force sleep on users after taking a hit. I can see it working. Would really need to know ability first. >ZeraoraObviously designed to be a sweeper. It'll be good for sure kinda sucks he's staying pure electric
>>58534794>sucks he's staying pure electricWhere was that confirmed?
>>58534747>put opponent to sleep turn 1 as the faster regular Darkrai>mega turn 2 to hit harder and be tankier when the opponent wakes upCould be kinda neat
>>58534747Hopefully Darkrai's other stats undo the downside of losing speed, bro needs something after the Dark Void nerf humiliation ritual.Either way though, I need to SEE them before I complete my judgement. With how the Megas in ZA have been so far, they could be anything from Kino to Literally one body part gets really big :D
>>58534747They nerfed Zacian because it was too broken this seems like a similar deal
>>58534815From the same OP that posted it on the reddit sub. He has the beta build
>>58534794I think Heatran's speed could still be useful if it got access to agility/autotomize/rock polishWith max investment (252 EVs, +spe nature) at +2 it'll reach 512 speed, enough to outspeed everything everything in every OU speed tier beyond tier 0 (500-fastest), and even then it'll specifically outspeed>252 spe +2 Basculegion,>252+ spe +1 Lilligant-Hisui,>252 spe +1 Roaring Moon, and>252+ spe unboosted Deoxys-Speedhttps://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-speed-tiers.3711207/This is making the assumption that Mega Heatran doesn't end up banned but I'm not betting on it because we know how gen 10's powercreep will be
>>58534862Except they already nerfed Darkrai by nerfing Dark Void. Unless it gets No Guard, it's kind of screwed still, especially with the way power creep is going
Heatran: Attack +30, Special Attack +45, Special Defense +35, Speed -10.Darkrai: Attack +30, Defense +40, Special Attack +30, Special Defense +40, Speed- 40.Zeraora: Attack +45, Special Attack +45, Speed +10.
>>58534863Oof, would have been the time ro make it Electric/Fighting
>>58535115to*
GF trying to control the powercreep is ridiculously funny when Mega Rayquaza + item exists and let's not forget Flutter Mane + Booster Energy.
>>58534747It makes sense for Heatran since it was already slow, definitely not for Darkrai though
>>58534863Is Darkrai also staying pure dark?
Dex entries
>>58535205Yes all their typings don't change
>>58535213Finally my shiny Zeraora can be useable.
>>58534747These stats are for ZA, aren't they?
Darkrai is slower because it doesn't float anymore, it walks
We already got stats for the DLC megas?
Darkrai has Ominous Wind added back to its learnset
Why are people talking about +2 boosts when these are clearly for ZA, which only uses +1? And isn't turn based? What world are you living in?
>>58534747Did I miss a leak? What are the stats for the other dlc megas?
>>58535536Tera leak.
>>58534794Blissey already loses to Heatran due to Magma Storm and Taunt. No stall player is going to leave their Blissey in on Heatran because it flat out dies or gets massive chip otherwise.
>>58535214That suck fat cockPure dark is shit defensively Why not make it dark ghost
>>58534794>he?Heatran is a 50% female species.
>>58535214Jesus that's disappointing
>>58534747>130 def and spdef>lost speeddid darkrai become fat
>>58535585But now it can Heavy Slam Blissey with its 4300 weight
>>58534747>Heatran in theory is impossible to fuck up stats on>They actually fucked it up>No def >Reduces speed when it outsped other fatmons>Stacking attack despite giving it 175 special attackStacking attack would be fine if they didn't give it that ridiculous special attack too. Even vs a light weight special wall like slowking, flash cannon is still better than heavy slam. That attack is meaningless vs 175
>>58535536There is a seperate free story update for the game that is unrelated to the Mega Dimension DLC which will have Darkrai, Heatran and Zeraora. Their mega stones are already in the base game with no update.
>>58536188Yeah but what if you wanted to do an Overheat set with Physical Moves for fun?
>>58536171It already weighs 4200. This does nothing to change almost all the heavy slam calcs
>>58535213>Sauron Pokemon
>>58536188>40 Speed EVs allow Heatran to outspeed Adamant Kingambit>With base 67 it will need 120 EVsoof
>>58535431Omg... u might me right... fuck dude I was actually hyped for mega Darkrai but you just shut me down completely.
>>58536081The prophecy of ft Darkrai came true
>>58534747Until I get a confirmation, I'm gonna assume these stats are fake
>>58534863How do we know it's real though?
>>58536199How do we know this?
>>58536873We don't. It's just copium.
Who the hell asked for bulky mixed attacking Darkrai?
>>58535529People are only talking about these things in the context of Champions (and the showdown ruleset based on champions). Nobody really gives a shit about how viable something is in PLZA.
>>58535431Would be kino
>>58534747Do we know Raichu X and Y?
>>58534747>SLOW>MIXED>ATTACKERThought we where done with these
Zeraora looks good. Might be better than Regieleki
>>58537513Slower but better offenses and actual coverage?Wow I'm not surprised.
>>58537488Not really, it's game freak mission to ruin every pokemon you like
>>58537513Mega zeraora killed both the mega raichus before they even existed kek
>>58537670Always remember if the mega is lame no one will play it, people have to like zeraora to play it.
>>58537688No one likes both raichus
>>58535213>Mega Heatran is thousands of times hotter than the sunMagcargosissies in shambles
>>58537699People like Raichu though, they will play a mega just to win with Raichu.No one really likes zeraora in the west, at worst people will play him if it's good but I can't see a fanbase for it grow like it happened to the other megas.
>>58534747>>58535213How are these three in the code but not all of the other Megas? They just forgot to completely scrub those three in specific?
>>58537513We will have to see abilities and typings later. Even if Zeraora remains as a pure Electric type, it'll still be crazy. Of course it depends on the moves and ability.
>>58534747Given how things have been adjusted between mainline and za, i think darkrai will get retouched in mainline. Either that, or they're planning on how to use him in pvp, because him having a massive AOE sleep move will be incredibly frustrating to deal with. In mainline, i'm guessing they're going to make his sleep move 100% accurate in exchange for the lower speed
>>58534863Link?
>>58537670>mythicallmao
