Any decently progressed/completed Essentials games - preferably Gen 4+ visuals? Ones I've enjoyed:

>Unbreakable Ties
>Ashen Frost
>Desolation
>Project Vanguard
>Opalo
>Realidea System
>Awakening
>Uranium

Not including Reborn, Rejuv and Insurgence because this is about games I liked, though those three are all technically pretty good compared to a lot of the shitters out there

>>58586724
Tectonic is my favorite. I think I'm going to replay it with randomizer.

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>>58586724
>rejuv

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Chad

>>58586680
>7 starters
>5 pseudos
>legendary spam
>regigigas but no other regis
1/10 shit dex

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>>58586680
Damn, didn't think this one would get an update. I actually liked playing through the last version and saw it through to its very end, it wasn't the best hack but it's got "passion project" and "made entirely for the hell of it" written all over it and I can appreciate the weird experimental ideas it had. The fact that one of the endgame trainers leading up to Arceus itself is fucking Chris Chan killed me when I got there, his mons even had nicknames.
RIP Jigglypuff line, Wooper line, Drowzee line, Psyduck line and Arctovish, axed away to make room for some of the other guys here.

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>>58586749
I love that the Vega Ranger sprites resemble those from the Ranger spin-offs, shit's awesome.

I still haven't even beaten Romero in Altair. The fakemon are good, but the game being essentially RSE story-wise with a few map and sprite changes here and there is boring me more than it should. I wasn't expecting much considering how old the hack is, but still.

Decided for some reason to try Renegade Platinum blind. Now I've got to choose. Do I get Vaporeon or Leafeon? I'm not interested in most of the others and could get better replacement types. Or and planning on using something like Espeon for a different game.
>Note: I am rather leaning towards a pure Gen 4 mon playthrough, but I'd make an exception just for Vaporeon.
PS: Do the trainers just have fucking maxed IVs or something? It feels like they do way more damage and take way less for no other reason.

any other good fangames that aren't traditional pokemon like emerald rogue. i've been playing the pit and its ok. i really like these types of games more than difficulty hacks or new region games

>>58587410
I heard the etrian odyssey/pokemon one was ok

>>58586792
Are you serious? Chris-chan? Outside of Clover?

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>>58586749
Ahh, forgot the pic I was gonna post initially.

>>58587427
>etrian odyssey/pokemon
I'll have to look this up
Etrian Odyssey x Pokemon that's basically Strange Journey

>>58587524
one of the lads in the etrian odyssey general spoke well of it for what its worth

>>58587524
It's a departure from the usual romhacks. I like a lot of the design decisions, and I specifically like that the pokemon IV grind was replaced with something a bit more fun and involved. And the doubles focus makes for more interesting teambuilding comps. I remember a drayano hack tried to do doubles only but failed because the early game pokemon werent really changed to compensate for that gameplay shift like they are in Odyssey

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>>58586724
Realidea system just looked like an excuse for this "thing" thats in every discussion of the game

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>>58586680
Do any romhacks/fangames have gimmicks that are actually interesting?

Becoming giant for 3 turns and getting OP cheat moves isn't interesting.

Grinding a meter to full by winning battles then cheating with a super move isn't interesting.

Putting 1 Mega stone on my Smogonshitter for bigger numbers isn't interesting.

Terra is interesting, I like that one.

>>58587660
Lets be real anon no gimmick is ever gonna beat Egg moves, a gen 2 gimmick so good they kept it and made it an essential part of every pokemon after gen 2

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>>58587458
Yup, shows up as a PokeFan. Right up there with the so-called strongest trainers across spacetime, though he's obviously one of the more shitpost-oriented NPCs, which there's a few of. No idea if he's still there in the update.
Team here consists of Bob the Mr. Mime, Barb the Jynx, Trolls the Dunsparce, Asperchu the Raticate, Sonichu the Pikachu and Rosechu the Raichu.

>>58587688
Something about this gives me extremely bad vibes

I beat Heart And Soul.

Johto region design unfixed, still full of bullshit backtracking. Here's some ice in your way, go back to the other end of the country for the bike. Just kidding, the bitch Gym Leader here won't fight you until you fight two more faggots, one of whom wants meds for her faggot giraffe first fresh from the second guy's gay island.

Johto's baby steps ahead of Kanto. We traded dirt roads on grassy planes and generic square houses with no sense of placeness for "place, Japan" where nothing interesting ever happens or matters. How can you write a story in Shinto Shrine Geisha Samurai Yokai Land where nothing ever happens? An "Old VS New" story practically writes itself here. Pokemon would never have the stones to write Oda Nobunaga leading Team Japanese Nationalism VS some retarded communist "leading" globalism's useful idiots, but we could have had that if Pokemon fangame writers had stones instead of making shitty fanfic gaymes full of blood and juvenile swearing and brown faggot trannies who never shut the fuck up. Also NPCs talking about how I'm not "worthy" enough to go here or there is gay. Thank you, Kanto devs, for having the good sense to make that rarer.

Movepools are SHIT. Pokemon barely learn any moves and most are shit. My Mismagius's strongest move is Confusion. I turned on the Fairy Type so why is the only Pokemon in my party with a Fairy-type move the Arcanine who learned Play Rough and Outrage from the Heart Scale Fag? My Feraligatr got to level 30-40ish before finally replacing Tackle with something! With what? Slash! Fucking Slash!

>>58587805

Goldenrod Store's TM selection for sale SUCKS.

Game Corner is an uninteresting money sink.

Did you nerf Spikes intentionally or was it a glitch that made Spikes do fuck all to Claire's bitches until I set a second Spikes layer? I swear the only Pokemon she sent out who got hurt by Spikes only took damage when a second layer of Spikes was up. If you did... You are a niggerfaggot. You are a faggotnigger. You are three niggers in a trenchcoat raping each other.

incomplete QOL.
>You can get items to change your Pokemon's stats/nature/IVs/EVs/ability but no menu to change them freely?
>No move relearner menu option?
>You still need to bribe the Move Tutor with a fucking heart scale?
>You can run from a fight before you send out your Pokemon, but afterwards B won't move your cursor to Run and select it like in Mariomon? No portable PC?
>No Dexnav?
>No prompt to catch a Pokemon after defeating it?
>No Pokedex that tells you useful shit like stats/evolution methods?
>No early game Eevee and evo stones?
>No bonfires/campsites/healer NPCs in the wild and in dungeons where backtracking from the Pokemon Center is a pain in the ass? Come on, even the canon games would give you a bed or NPC healer here and there.
>No portable Pokemon Center?

Johto story unfixed, Team Rocket are still pathetic antagonists, their plot to steal a radio tower to beg a man who lost a fight to a child to come back and lead them is still lame. Silver's still a worthless bitch and the game still tells you he's good now instead of doing anything interesting with him as a character. Making these shitters show up more doesn't help. Keeping me from fighting the Gym Leaders until I single handedly solve problems Team Rocket causes only highlights how little the Gym Leaders ever do. Gym Leader? More like Gym Queerderp.

>>58587805
>>58587812
EXP multiplier set to max but I'm still forced to EXP grind newfags in my team. "You will overlevel"? Not with the level cap, bitch.

Wild Encounters interrupting my fucking Ice Puzzle with fucking Mach Bike cracked ice? Tedious and annoying. Level cap stops me from outlevelling wild encounters so Repel's useless.

What's the point to all these Headbutt Trees everywhere when all they give you is shitmons 20 levels below the trainers and wild encounters I'm fighting? Just to fuck with people holding Turbo A?

Fuck Johto for being boring as hell. Japan's fucking awesome, it's full of cool interesting new shit and ancient shit and weird legends and gods and yokai, and it's all squandered so Johto can jack off the most boring and mundane take on Japan ever. Am I expected to squee and point at the screen and basedface pog when I see a Geisha girl or japanese tori gate or pink tree? Like I've never seen them before? They all suck and that doesn't tell an interesting story, it makes me wish I was experiencing one instead. Johto isn't an ancient place going through any interesting stories like trying to find a balance between old and new and deal with the industrial revolution and globalization and globalism and changing times and immigrants, it's just old and dull. And what of Johto's amazing old places? A tower here, a tower there, and a few legendaries who show up so that faggot in a retarded outfit can comment on you beating him to the punch and making Suicune fuck off. Wow, amazing.

So far the only thing I've liked about this romhack besides the Quality Of Life features that ensure I spend less time playing it are the way NPC Pokemon will stand around or roam around, often letting you know what Pokemon can be caught here and there. I like that gimmick. Very soulful. Every Pokemon game should do it. How did nobody think of that until now? Everyone in the entire scene is a homonigger for not thinking of that until now.

Is there a version of pokemon Vega with native speedup

>>58587815
Sounds like you're projecting a bunch of your own issues onto the romhack. Thanks for the recommendation, it sounds neat if I want to replay HGSS.

>>58587805
>>58587812
>>58587815
You make some decent points, but you also sound like a deranged /pol/schizophrenia, so hard to take anything you say seriously.

>>58587925
no

Unbounds first gym was surprisingly easy? Playing on Difficult and I don't do any IV stuff or catching Pokemon with specific natures, I just get the first one I encounter. I guess it will get more difficult later on. The fog gimmick was kinda dumb since the opposing trainers were whiffing moves left and right too so it wasn't even advantageous for them.

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fuck it, giving reborn another run
picked a non-starter starter for a change of pace
druddigon is a cool guy and probably OP for the early game and horribly outclassed in the late game, but we'll see how long he stays relevant

>>58587805
>>58587812
>>58587815
thanks broski, I was considering playing this but this sounds like hell
as an aside, have you played fire gold? this looks like the best way to explore johto in a gen 3 rom, given crystaldust is in development hell and liquid crystal and shiny gold are outdated

>>58588509
have you checked heart and soul?

>>58587805
>shitty fanfic gaymes full of blood and juvenile swearing and brown faggot trannies who never shut the fuck up.
The amazing part here is that you weren't even baiting, your brown latinx hand wrote this shallow 2006 ass "review" full of swearing and in no moment did the irony hit your empty brain.
I guess Johto sucks because you are dealing with Pokemon and not fighting communists or doing a basic ass modern vs nature plot like Prism.

>>58586680
>This is CYNTHIA.
? No, that's clearly Jasmine. Is Elm retarded?

>>58587925
Nope, pretty old hack please understand (like unironically)

Is there any romhack/fangame where the zygarde Core is a playable mon?

>>58588790
What kinda fetish is this?

>>58588790
Wack

>>58588790
Pokemon Uncanny

>>58587812
>You can get items to change your Pokemon's stats/nature/IVs/EVs/ability but no menu to change them freely?
>No move relearner menu option?
>You still need to bribe the Move Tutor with a fucking heart scale?
>You can run from a fight before you send out your Pokemon, but afterwards B won't move your cursor to Run and select it like in Mariomon? No portable PC?
>No prompt to catch a Pokemon after defeating it?
>No early game Eevee and evo stones?
>No bonfires/campsites/healer NPCs in the wild and in dungeons where backtracking from the Pokemon Center is a pain in the ass? Come on, even the canon games would give you a bed or NPC healer here and there.
>No portable Pokemon Center?

What is this faggotry?

>>58587812
>No portable Pokemon Center
What the fuck are you talking about

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In an ideal world every game should have a Pokemon Unknown style hack.
Basically an ultimate "customization hack" as I've come to calling them. Something beyond a mere "enhancement hack".
Eventually there should be no need for the Universal Pokemon Randomizer as all of it's features will be available within the game itself and more.
These will be the hacks that all hackers use as the base for their own hacks.
This is the world I envision and I believe this is the goal that the hacking population should be working towards.

>>58587812
>No bonfires/campsites/healer NPCs in the wild and in dungeons where backtracking from the Pokemon Center is a pain in the ass? Come on, even the canon games would give you a bed or NPC healer here and there.
All of this post trying to larp as le epic angry video game nerd just to write down pussy complaints like this.
You didn't buy supplies and got fucked for it.

>>58587812
>No prompt to catch a Pokemon after defeating it?
Wtf are you smoking anon? That only happens in Raids afaik

>>58587805
>>58587812
>>58587815

>Johto region design unfixed
>Johto story unfixed
Complains about a remake remaking the original game instead of being fanfiction

>incomplete QOL
Apparently "QoL" means "features that let me skip playing the game."

If you're going to force me to grind then make it easier to get exp, I think i've caused a genocide in Viridian Forest just to get one pokémon to level 10

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Does it deserve the hate?

The new game got me thinking about trying to produce a hack entirely in an urban and sub-urban setting, a single city type of deal. Shouldn't be too hard given it's merely a presentation question, calling cities neighbourhoods instead, routes being more like roads and parks versus crossing a whole state on foot.

>>58590113
reborn

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Is it finally time Light Platinum bros?
https://x.com/lightplatinumds/status/1987219870782484705?s=20

>>58590261
looks more like dark platinum to me

>>58590261
kinda worthless without an English release

Is anybody making a demake of Pokemon ZA yet?

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>>58590261
>shiny sprites
already better than anything Gamefreaks done!

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>>58588691
>desperate for a gotcha
>denies Nuance
You've never picked up a good book and read it, so you don't know this, but some works actually benefit from intelligent social and political discussions. Not every game has to be as niggertarded as that Pokemon fangame Soulstones where Republicans are the baddies.

You can't read books, so try a video game. Ever played Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura? It does something actually interesting with the idea of old vs new.

>>58589196
Assorted QOL options from good romhacks I've played, to ensure you don't have to waste time RNG grinding for the Pokemon you want, with the Ability you want, and the Nature/EV/IVs you want, and the Egg Moves you want.

The only egregious thing in the list is letting B be a shortcut for Run during battle. Thanks, Mariomon.

>>58589835
You used healing items? Gay. You probably used them during battle, too.

>>58590005
Happened after every battle in the good romhacks I've played.

>>58590024
We can talk about authenticity vs authorial freedom if you raise your IQ enough to understand QOL features make bullshit less tedious so you spend more time playing the meaningful part of the game.

>>58589365
Add a Key Item that heals the party. Stores one charge, visiting a Pokemon Center recharges it.

>>58590031
This. Add level caps and multiply EXP gain by 16.

>>58590113
Check out Custom Robo Arena, the first 80% of the game takes place in one giant city.

>>58590325
>Happened after every battle in the good romhacks I've played.
Either I have shit taste or you are making that up which tbf I don't play a lot of QoL enhanced perfected definitive polished Hacks so there's that, my only experience with that is with Raid mons

>>58590325
>Berates the idea of using healing items
>Demands an item that acts like 6 full restores

>>58590325
>RNG grinding for the Pokemon you want, with the Ability you want, and the Nature/EV/IVs you want, and the Egg Moves you want
Competitive fags wonder why they're not taken seriously when they want perfect stats and moves on their pokemon in a singleplayer RPG

>>58590379
>expecting the schizo who goes on raging tangents about bullshit that has literally nothing to do with the hack he's playing aside from "heh, if *I* made this game, then..." egotism to be consistent and coherent

>>58587805
>>58587812
>>58587815
So this is what """QoL improvements""" do to the average player? Holy fuck. Grim.

>>58590393
No you must understand, if I have a pokemon with 31 IVs across the board, except for 1 stat being 30 or less, I will go red in the face and scream and piss and shit my pants until I am given better QoL features to let me have the pokemon exactly as I demand

>>58590325
>mass replying
sharty is down the hall and to the left

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>>58590393
I want to play at my best. When I lose in arcade games I know it's 100% on me. Meanwhile in RPGs it's complicated. If I have pokemon with the spreads I want, I am happier. Why? Instead of the losses being 30% my fault due to luck, rng and unfair romhack shit I could only prepare for by fast-forwarding in an emulator, it'll be like 80% my fault if I screw up and get defeated in battle. It's not 100% and it'll never be due to variance, but it's good enough. Especially if the hack insists on having enemy trainers or gym leaders fighting at full power with perfect pokemon and AI reading your moves, no reason to not grant players a similar same toolset.

In an ideal world you'd get rid of the ev/iv/natures system entirely, have decomp battle and animation speedup options, unique battle mechanics, custom-made UI, new regions and carefully curated dexes in every romhack but alas. I think I will create my own

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>>58590551
Even if you had perfect stats, you'd still get assfucked by bad RNG.
Guess we need to remove probability effects as a whole too, right? Get rid of damage rolls so you'll always hit for max possible damage, am I correct?

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>>58590551
It sounds like you just don't want to play pokemon games.

>>58590551
EVs, IVs, and Natures do not influence your stats nearly as much as you think they do. Everything you say about stats being so important all comes from the assumption you're fighting everything at level 100, and that your opponents also have perfect EVs/IVs, which they won't if the hack is even marginally well balanced since EVs and IVs only exist to give your own pokemon an arbitrary stat advantage assuming you're matching the level of your opponent.

>>58590632
Speed means everything in Pokemon and since a +1 will probably outspeed you 9/10 times, yeah,ev/iv matter a lot.Especially if the hack gives gym leaders good Pokemon.

>>58590742
>Speed means everything
It really doesn't. If you really need to go first all the time just to survive, maybe don't play a team with no tanky pokemon or counterplay.

>>58590797
The best way to avoid taking damage is to not let your enemy inflict it in the first place
Speed matters even on the defense, you 900 elo retard

>>58590325
>Ever played Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura? It does something actually interesting with the idea of old vs new.
I skipped it because Tim Cain is a homosexual, same reason why I never played classic Fallout.

>>58590822
Yeah, if you always go first and always one shot your opponent, you won't take damage, amazing 1000 IQ strategy retard, but that doesn't change anything that was said. If your pokemon can't take a hit, then use a pokemon that can. If you lose because you only care about offense, then that's your fault.

>>58590620
nta but learn to read

>>58590551
This argument fails when you consider that all the best romhacks have EVs and IVs, and the games that remove them are dogshit 100% of the time.

>Complains that the game's story is too similar to the original
>Complains that the game doesn't let you choose your Pokemon's Nature/IVs/EVs from a menu
>Complains that perfect Nature/IVs/EVs are critical for winning the game
>A game designed for children

Absolute faggotry.

>to ensure you don't have to waste time RNG grinding for the Pokemon you want
>spend more time playing the meaningful part of the game
>Implying catching and raising Pokemon in a game revolving around catching and raising Pokemon is not the meaningful part of the game

Even further faggotry.

>>58590551
>I think I will create my own
I hope you will. New region hacks are always welcome and it would be nice to have more development on /rheg/.

Ignoring whatever bullshit conversation is going on. We can at least agree that a rando trainer spamming stuns and confuse when they're 1 hit away from losing is the most boring part of Pokemon, right?

>>58591020
More bullshit than boring. Non-guaranteed to land status moves already having a chance to perform their desired effect is one thing, but the fact you can thaw out of frozen, or snap out of confusion on the same turn it's inflicted is complete bullshit. There's no real strategy to using them when they can effectively not even do anything if luck favors you correctly.

>>58591020
anyone that isn't a psychopath/sociopath will agree with this

>>58591040
>>58591048
I think one of the problems is, that it "always" works for AI trainers. But for players, it just never works and the enemy will never get stunned, making the whole thing pointless.
Does make me wish Game Freak would do more status overhauls like the Frostbite in Arceus. And, you know, actually put them into the main games.

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Elite Redux is the "Potential Man" of romhacks and I'm tired of people talking about how "it'll be sooooo good bro just wait, they have sooo many features planned"
It's bad! It's unbalanced, it's buggy, it's poorly thought out. How can you call something a technical achievement when every new system has some sort of bug attached to it? Trainer battles meant to knowledge check, " redux" variants that completely powercreep the original. A story that remains unchanged whatsoever. What is there to enjoy here other than glorified power fantasy fakemon?

>>58591071
i'm pretty sure there's a term for the kind of bias people have with chances where they don't really care when it's in their favor (because that's what they want/expect) but care when random things don't go their way (because they weren't expecting it)
despite it being virtually random people tend to have a problem with rounding up/down random chances to fit their expectations even when provable otherwise
obviously noticing unusually lucky/unlucky cases of RNG is one thing but that's not the case here
you're more than likely just choosing to not notice the times when it actually works for you

>>58591146
>What is there to enjoy here other than glorified power fantasy fakemon?
Yeah that's pretty much the main draw of the game, at least Elite Redux got its act together and knew what it wanted to be (more battle simulator than an actual RPG) unlike Radical Red

>>58590261
>DS
Why not remake that shit using pokeemerald

>>58590057
The only person who would probably be justified in "hating" RR would probably be Skeli, since Soupercell apparently used the CFRU to create RR before Unbound was finished and potentially soaked up some of its due limelight, but I seriously doubt he gives a shit about that kinda thing, especially since he released it himself. From a purely gameplay perspective RR is great, but it's no original region hack to be sure, seems like it's became a bit of a lightningrod over the years for the anti-enhancement hack sentiments.

>>58590297
>implying that we won't have that within 3 weeks
Even if they don't put one out, there will be a fan translation.

I know the creator is brazillian but was LP released in English or Portuguese?

>>58587384
Well, I ended up picking Leafeon. A slight problem was
>None of the Eevees learn a STAB move until lvl 16
>Roark's level cap is 15
Someone did this on purpose, I'm sure of it.

>>58591428
idk how you can watch that trailer and say man I wish it was in Gen 3
We're SICK of Gen 3.

>>58591563
>Level Cap
> Renegade Platinum
...what?

>>58591617
Self imposed, I do it even when I'm not Nuzlocking.

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He is so tiny lmao.

>>58590551
>In an ideal world you'd get rid of the ev/iv/natures system entirely, have decomp battle and animation speedup options, unique battle mechanics, custom-made UI, new regions and carefully curated dexes in every romhack but alas
You could have all of this, Jason, and you would still complain because you can't stomach anything that isn't a battle gauntlet.

>>58590894
Ignore him, he's a known lolcow named Jason Godwyn/SilverStarApple.
You can tell it's him from a few key markers:
>Weirdly aggressive posting style reminiscent of /pol/ posters
>Drops random games and media into the conversation normally as a barometer as what he considers actually good
>Wants to skip anything that isn't a battle and an obsession with hyper-optimised gameplay
>Bemoans story & dialogue for being bad because it's boring but when pressed on this exhibits a disdain for it and believes it's a waste of his time

He is the epitome of wanting everything now and not understanding game design. He often says he'll do it better, he's actually made quite a few projects but all of them are tech demos at best focusing on hyperoptimising any variance or breathing room out of the engine. He's a moronic midwit that will never make anything of value

>>58591428
>Why not throw away years of work and do it again from scratch
Besides the novelty of being a DS hack is like the main thing that hack has going for it.

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>>58591862
Very convenient that as soon as D and his stalkers fuck off, another lolcow that's ALSO a wannabe dev barges in and asserts his territory here.

>>58591749
oof, someone forgot to double the sprite size.

>>58592276
Jason was years ago.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/search/text/pink%20cbt

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>>58591681
Respect. For a moment there I thought we had another "false level cap" situation, like the guy from last year that was pissed because his Pokemon were disobeying him in Blaze Black. Apparently he got some rom off his friend who fiddled with the OT or something.
Context: https://arch.b4k.dev/vp/thread/56219364/#56233956

>>58591603
>We're SICK of Gen 3.
Who is we?

>>58592323
Little nigga must be talking about Nintendo Wii. Brawl was pretty dogshit, so I get it.

>>58590261
That looks really good. Spanish only?

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>>58592313
Sorry to David-post, but this snapshot of an older /rheg/ made me laugh, I joined 2024.
t. newfriend

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>>58592379
The longer it takes for them to build up the decomp to a satisfactory state, the more unsatisfied they'll be with the scope because they have to keep adding more mons, moves, abilities, items, etc. from future gens, which means the longer it'll take for AuroraCrystal to stop existing as vaporware...

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>>58497638
Took a break to do other things, but I guess I'm back at the grind and adding more trainers. (you have no idea how hard it was to find that Scott sprite)

Coming back to things, I think I'm going to start taking shortcuts. I've still got a LOT of trainers before I fill up all the monotype slots, so I'm going to cheat. Game MCs are flexible enough to be any type, so I"m going to start using them (especially for bug steel and fairy). The gen4 partner trainers also have a startling amount of flexibility, so they will also be in multiple cups. I'm aiming for build 4 and the pokecommunity debut to be in February.

On top of mono types, I want to add more fakemon and a fakemon mode to the factory. Also, I want to expand the number of major characters to show up in the Battle Tower. I already have a few, but I want to add all the ones that have walking animations. So, everyone but the gen1 Elite Four. I don't know why no one has ever made a FRLG or RSE walking animation for Lance.

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>>58592392

>>58592370
for now, it being made by Spaniards is probably why it took 13 years to develop

>>58592643
>13 years to develop
kek. Well the nice thing about spanish is that a lot of them also speak english so I could think an english (fan) translation would be within like two weeks

Hello, Pokemon Romhacker. My name is Jigsaw. In this "Saw Trap" (as I've taken to calling them), there is a normal-type in front of you. Your challenge is to leave the room without changing it's type. It works fine. It's a perfectly solid normal type mon. The door is unlocked.

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>>58592716
You fool! There are no such thing as solid Normal mons in Jason Godwyn's Pokemon Emerald!

Feast your tired sinful eyes on the glorious majesty of this mathematically perfect type chart!

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>me when

>>58592643
Well, that implies that Spain is better at gen 4 hacking than everyone else in the world.

>>58591603
>>58592261
You already know the release will be full of bugs and they will drop it after the fourth or fifth gym. We won't get any good romhacks in DS for a long time unfortunately, especially one like Light Platinum where there's two fucking regions and a massive (cringe) story and events

do any lumiose city-style tilesets exist? been looking for a while

>>58592921
As far as I know, no. I don't think anyone's ever tried to remake it in 2D because of the way the city is built.

You possibly can get an approximation by combining elements from:
https://www.deviantart.com/magiscarf/art/Tileset-ver-3-Free-690477146
https://www.deviantart.com/tobalcr/art/POKEMON-BW-RESTAURANT-TILESET-FOR-POKEMON-FANGAMES-1102365262
https://www.deviantart.com/pablus94/art/TILES-URBANOS-POKEMON-City-tiles-837871361
https://www.deviantart.com/ekat99/art/Garden-Objects-878793609
https://www.deviantart.com/pinkscales-da/art/Outside-FRLG-Custom-Assets-1-1044766813

>>58587688
Jynx? Not Snorlax or Munchlax? That’s what people called her for years..

>>58590894
>>58591862
god, he should have stuck to fucking FE romhacking or rivals of aether shit or whatever he was dicking around in the past couple of years, at least those are genres that don't fundamentally clash with his obsession over zero-RNG hyperoptimized battle simulation
I remember when he posted an example of his own writing/dialogue and it was just the most thinly veiled bitching about his critics complete with changing the text box to three lines because even dialogue is not save from his autistic need for speed. wish I had a pic because it was funny

Who is worse?
Jason or D?

>>58593497
Jason by a mile
David's an autist that's locked in his bad habits but he's not an asshole about it and at least tries to take in immediate feedback for what he makes. he's just really fucking bad at figuring out when he should put something down and leave it instead of arbitrarily trying to remake shit that people are already fine with

meanwhile Jason in his heyday would constantly spam threads asking for feedback on his tech demos and then when people would give him feedback he'd write three entire paragraphs of seething per reply about how all of the feedback was objectively wrong and the people making it were stupid trolls that did not understand his objectively genius vision. I was actually rooting for that guy in the beginning, autistic game design be damned, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a more overinflated ego

>>58593497
>>58593509
>Jason
who?

>>58593535
see >>58591862
>>58592313
he's been gone for years, it's pretty easy to be out of the loop

>>58590847
>then use a pokemon that can
Pokemon is hard counter game genius. Your "tanky" pokemon will last two turns at best unless you are playing vanilla or are overleveled.

>>58593796
How can you call people "900 elo retards" when you're complaining about npcs who don't even know how to switch properly?

>>58593541
There's a guy acting like him itt, and someone who said they remove levels/natures/ivs/evs from damage calculation in the last thread. Sure sounds like...

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>>58590113
Could be fun. Its a scale of map most people don't think of when it comes to pokemon,

>>58593796
Words spoken by a guy who has literally never used a tanky pokemon in his life

>>58594120
Words spoken by a person who only plays vanilla and over levels.
Most romhacks with ev/iv stuff changes means, even non effective moves are gonna do a lot of damage.
And even non hack wise, most tournaments don't have grand 10+rounds of pOkemon fighting. Most stuff ,even "tanky" dies quickly because that is the way stats and types work in these games.

>>58594298
>even "tanky" dies quickly because that is the way stats and types work in these games
Go figure if you have a bad type matchup you're going to die quickly. Any other genius insight from you, or are you just going to pretend that tanky pokemon can't exist because the difference between dying in 1 hit vs 3 hits isn't a big enough gap? Compfags are the worst.

>>58594315
>Go figure if you have a bad type matchup you're going to die quickly
What did i say?
>even non effective moves are gonna do a lot of damage.
Next time learn to read.
> 1 hit vs 3 hits isn't a big enough gap?
No. Tanky pokemon are just gonna tank and die and not deal enough damage unless a lucky crit happens and they can miss.And if the opponent outspeeds you he gets 2 moves on your one.
I dare you to play any of the sun/moon/ultra hacks and tell me there is "tanky" stuff and "speed doesn't matter."

>>58594327
>What did i say?
Exactly what I quoted, you are claiming absolutely nothing about non-effective moves because you're doing it under the assumption your pokemon has no defensive stats.

>>58586680
How difficult is it to create entire new routes and maps in a romhack?
I assume it’s more or less just
>take existing “map”
>change boundaries (fences incurable trees rocks etc)
>add grass
>set wild pokemon spawns
>set any trainers
And that’s it?


My idea is kind of complex. It’s poke crest trail. Essentially a giant series of routes going north with some stops along the way, progressively harder battles and stronger pokemon.

>>58594567
Like what am I getting myself into here? How much time would even go into building this?

>>58594315
>Compfags are the worst
Nigga if he even played a single battle of competitive in either format then he'd realize that the nonsense he spews is self evidently untrue

>>58594635
It depends on the scale. It's not that difficult, but making a new region from scratch can take years.

>>58594720
I’m feeling a bit lost. I’m totally green getting a bit overwhelmed had to step away from it.bi got hex maniac, not sure if that’s the best thing to use for this. But I now have no clue where to begin. I guess I first have to find a rom to use and begin editing off of?
I suppose it would be best to find an emerald rom launch that into hex maniac and then totally clear the map and expand it about as far vertically as I think I need to, perhaps even draw something up by hand so I have a rough idea on what to go off.

>>58594851
>not sure if that’s the best thing to use for this
It's not. https://github.com/pret/pokeemerald
Read the install file.

>>58592398
that lisia sprite feels out of place

>>58594876
I’m looking into it, it looks even better.

I do wonder how viable my idea is. This would achieve the gen 3 graphics I want, but is building an entirely new and massive (like 4x the size of emerald) map even viable? Has anyone created any original map/world rom hacks that are “massive”?

>>58592822
i think it just means they have so much time off from their real jobs that they've been able to brute force a DS new region hack with very few tools

>>58594713
Post a single successful strategy involving tanky pokemon that is not pure cheese.
Don't even bother, you can't.

>>58595117
>but is building an entirely new and massive (like 4x the size of emerald) map even viable?
That just depends on how much time you're willing to spend on building it.

>>58594038
If this community is so dead and devoid of Pokemon design discussion you can recognise the one man who understands good UI design by name, that doesn't say great things about this community.
You can disagree with what I said about the hack, but personal attacks aren’t discussion.
I posted my experience with Heart and Soul because I think feedback about pacing and quality-of-life design is valid.
Wanting to skip filler or redundant text boxes isn’t a moral flaw, it’s a preference for tighter game design that's more respectful of my time.
If you think the slowdown or redundancy adds something meaningful, explain why, and explain why adding 2x more slowdown and redundancy would be even better. That’s an actual conversation.
Calling people names or accusing them of being someone else doesn’t help anyone learn or enjoy these games more.

>>58595409
I'm not sure who or what you're trying to argue with but go get em champ

>>58595409
>you can recognise the one man who understands good UI design by name
nice try Jason, we also remember your notoriously unsubtle samefagging too

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I give up, Reborn has officially filtered me. I will finish it but I will never beat it.

>>58595504
what did you get filtered by
and post your mons

>>58595360
So there’s no limit on how big I can make it then. It would probably take me years to complete. If I put a solid 20 hours in a week I think I could have the map done in a year but as far as fixing any bugs and getting everything perfect that would probably take multiple years.

>>58595593
so there's this revolutionary new idea I thought of called
having playtesters to find various bugs, balancing problems, and things that could be improved on in general

>>58595558
It was a while ago on the psychic chess gym
>double battle
>trick room
>slow bulky team with good IVs(0 speed)/EVs/natures
>king's rock metagross with priority on every move
Couldn't win with my box full of untrained shitmons. Barely scraped after giving myself EVs and trying many times

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Made a shitpost "mockup" of the ultimate in corporate Pokemon: Pokecorp ™. You play as a wageslave who has to run around the eight departments of Pokecorp HQ and challenge each of the managers in order not to get fired at the end of the week. I kinda fucked up the artstyle of the mons proper, but it's meant to resemble the soulless "Corporate Memphis"/"Alegria Art"/"Globohomo" corposlop shit. The status screen is meant to resemble LinkedIn for the mon, battles are just some random shit I threw together.

>>58595593
There's a rom size limit but you wouldn't hit it with only a 4x bigger map. It could be an issue if you use pokeemerald-expansion and add all newer mons.

>>58595660
Ah yeah the Chess field, one of Reborn's most notorious difficulty spikes imo. You really need to pay attention to the field's effects or get Stomping Tantrum to delete the field

>>58595661
that's fucking awesome

>>58595661
>David as a wageslave
Lmao

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>>58592398
So many ribbons
>>58595058
I won't disagree, but it's all I've got right now. I'll make a note to see if I can find a better one.

>>58595660
>my box full of untrained shitmons
If you have only shitmons by the eighth gym then you've not only been playing the game completely wrong but are violating rule 5 and need to gtfo
And like that other anon said, either pay attention to what the field's roles for mons are, or have something use stomping tantrum turn 1
>>58595661
>enshittified showdown
sounds interesting
i'd play a fangame/hack with this concept

>>58595661
Please tell me there’s a final boss to battle and it’s the CEO but he’s just the most goblin-esque looking jew imaginable and his pokemon are all meowth and maybe a hypno maybe one of the weather altering ones too. Name him something funny like Ami Shecklestien

>>58595933
he should get a gholdengo for extremely obvious reasons
cancer mon for a cancer CEO

I want to try Reborn for the first time. What mods should I add?

>>58596020
vanilla, unless you want to go insane from either terrible kaizotard modded balancing decisions, or missing QoL features since all the mods worth mentioning are for e19 (not e19.5)

>>58596020
pass: hardcap
Disables EXP gain past the level cap.

>>58595927
>>58595790
I didn't feel like the field was the main issue, trick room and his general bulk were. I got through it after I got enough attack, after all

>>58596028
How big of a difference are the 2 versions?

>>58596064
content wise, not much - e19 was the complete release version
QoL wise, you're missing
>text boxes that fit more than a sentence
>the nopuzzles password for puzzle skips (the vast majority of them are just pointless tedium without any actual thinking, or trial and error anyways)
>freescent password, which gives you the encounter rate adjusting item early
>itemfinder password, to get the item finder item early
>nopartnerai password, if you're struggling with a multi battle because of retarded AI partner decisions
>speedskip password to cut out timewasting pauses in battle

some other passwords exclusive to e19.5 that actually matter:
>all the field related passwords
>fullstandard password to raise all opposing mons' IVs to 31
>levelfloor to raise all opposing mons' levels to the previous level cap after the first badge
>freestarter password to let you pick any starter, though it's probably worth checking mon availability first so you don't waste it on something you could get relatively early anyways
https://pokemon-reborn.fandom.com/wiki/Pokemon_Location
>doubles password to make every battle doubles, though a bunch of fights will become noticeably easier/harder as a result
>battlebond password which lets you get a battle bond greninja in fiore mansion (after badge 15)
>aiplay password to make the AI battle for you
>yoink password which lets you snag 1 pokemon per enemy trainer
>debug password if you're too lazy to add " debug" to the end of your game shortcut's filepath, you can use debug mode to change mon info and access a bunch of tools that you really shouldn't touch if you don't know what you're doing
>basiceggs password to hide egg sprites so it's not clear what's actually in them

>>58596134
goat

>>58596020
Make a custom texture mod to play as the Snakewood female MC.

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>>58595661
the concept of alegria/corporateslop in pokemon is funny as fuck i had to try to make a charizard in that style

>>58596429
fuck me that's a hundred times better than what I managed, I just awkwardly traced charizard art and fucked around with the eyes a little

>>58595900
As much as I hate to do it, I think I'm just going to have to move the goalpost. Looking it over, some of these monotype rosters are going to be too hard to pull off without stretching things much farther than I'm comfortable with. I'm now just going to get 8 in as many categories as I can, and hope I can find more later. This puts me in an undesirable position because now I'm going to have to depend on other people liking the idea and contributing in order to get the game to the ideal state. I don't have the skill to make the missing sprites myself, and to commission everything I need would put me back hundreds of dollars.

It's not like the monotype tournaments were ever a must have. They were always an extra and I can live without all of them, but it is a bummer to scale things back. I'm still aiming for February, and there are plenty of other things to work on in the mean time.

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>>58591146
it'll be sooooo good bro just wait
https://youtu.be/2Znv-vOirvo?si=B7eGogz_aZKgagnq

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>>58597314
I just gotta keep waiting... waiting... like all the other potential hacks...
Pisces rework to be good soon, just gotta wait...
Procyon/Deneb Full soon, just gotta wait...
AuroraCrystal soon, just gotta wait...
Clover 2.0 soon, just gotta wait...
just... keep... w a i t i n g . . .

lazarus next week

>>58597431
yes babyyy

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>>58597326
>Coral - final version
2 more weeks
>Gaia - v4.0
2 more weeks
>Orange - Island Walker
2 more weeks
>Red++ - v4.0
2 more weeks
>Ancient Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
2 more weeks
>Ancient Platinum
2 more weeks
>Unbound -- Cube Corp/Glimmer Isle
2 more weeks
>Aurora Crystal
2 more weeks
>Inclement Emerald - v2.0
2 more weeks
>Black and White 3 - Genesis v2.0
2 more weeks
>Prism - post-game completion
2 more weeks
>Polished Crystal - post-game completion
2 more weeks
>Recharged Yellow/Pink - post-game completion
2 more weeks
>Blazing Emerald - v1.7
2 more weeks
>Iridium - final version
2 more weeks
>Saffron
2 more weeks
>Legacy Edition
2 more weeks
>Quarantine Crystal v1.0
2 more weeks
>Re:Illuminated Platinum
2 more weeks
>R.O.W.E -- Kanto post-game update
2 more weeks
>Blaze Black/Bolt White 2: Redux - v2.0
2 more weeks
>Radical Red - v4.2
2 more weeks
>Elite Redux - v2.6+
2 more weeks
>DarkFire - final version
2 more weeks
>Odyssey 2
2 more weeks
>Mariomon v2.0/Luigimon
2 more weeks
>Pisces - v
2 more weeks
>Light Platinum DS - Final Version & Translation
2 more weeks
>Tourmaline - Hoenn post-game completion
2 more weeks
>Hearth - Final Version
2 more weeks

>Lazarus
2 more we--... no... 5 more days!

Best 3DS hacks? I know they’re nowhere near the level of GBA hacks just want something to spice up the 3DS games

>>58597522

Eternal X/Y

Rising Ruby/Sinking Sapphire
Rutile Ruby/Star Sapphire

Nova Sun/Umbra Moon

Supernova Sun/Penumbra Moon
Photonic Sun/Prismatic Moon

>>58597531
Thanks anon.

>>58595484
I wasn't pretending to be someone else, agreeing with myself, and that's what samefagging means. Are you new, or just disabled?

You see, I'm ENTJ. I appreciate intellectual debate, but this place abhors it. Thoughts are typically shouted here anonymously into the void, and ignored. Or someone disagrees with them, and that's taken as a personal attack. You don't debate ideas and grow, you bitch about people and stagnate.

What do I do if I'm immediately getting bored of Renegade Platinum because I know every single trainer battle just has Maxed IVs
Bloated stats in RPGs has to be the most boring "difficulty" increase ever.

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>I wasn't pretending to be someone else, agreeing with myself, and that's what samefagging means. Are you new, or just disabled?
>You see, I'm ENTJ. I appreciate intellectual debate, but this place abhors it. Thoughts are typically shouted here anonymously into the void, and ignored. Or someone disagrees with them, and that's taken as a personal attack. You don't debate ideas and grow, you bitch about people and stagnate.

>>58597623
Play something else.

>>58597760
Are there any other good QoL Platinum rom hacks?

>>58597902
No

>>58597603
>I wasn't pretending to be someone else, agreeing with myself, and that's what samefagging means.
?
>>58595409
>you can recognise the one man who understands good UI design by name
>Calling people names or accusing them of being someone else doesn’t help anyone learn or enjoy these games more.
you're not doing a very good job of proving me wrong

>>58597551
No problem brother.

>>58595409
>>58597603
>You can disagree with what I said about the hack, but personal attacks aren’t discussion.
>I think feedback about pacing and quality-of-life design is valid.
>That’s an actual conversation.
>Calling people names or accusing them of being someone else doesn’t help anyone learn or enjoy these games more.
>You see, I'm ENTJ. I appreciate intellectual debate
>Thoughts are typically shouted here anonymously into the void

From the guy who gave such meaningful critiques as:
>the bitch Gym Leader here won't fight you until you fight two more faggots, one of whom wants meds for her faggot giraffe first fresh from the second guy's gay island.
>making shitty fanfic gaymes full of blood and juvenile swearing and brown faggot trannies who never shut the fuck up
>You are a niggerfaggot. You are a faggotnigger. You are three niggers in a trenchcoat raping each other.
>Gym Leader? More like Gym Queerderp.
>a few legendaries who show up so that faggot in a retarded outfit can comment on you beating him to the punch and making Suicune fuck off. Wow, amazing.

>>58597623
Dont they still have 0 EVs across the board because DS hacking wasnt advanced enough?

>>58589071
Thank you.

>>58594038
That was me. I'm not Jason or anybody like that. I just happen to have this weird case of autism where I (want to) enjoy pokemon but really hate a lot of game's aspects. I guess it'd be more accurate to say I really dislike RNG and prefer arcade gameplay

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Any recs for a FRLG hack with tons of QoL/gameplay enhancements/additions, but NOT obnoxiously difficult like Radical Red or whatever? I'm feeling kind of Hoenn'd out

>>58596020
play vanilla
though I wouldnt fault anyone using some of the quality of life passwords like having all your pokemon at 31ivs or the pack of nature mints at the beginning, because by the mid game everyone you fight will be on that level so you might as well get it out of the way at the start.

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Did Desolation ever get finished?

>>58598288
Correct, but you'd be surprised how insanely strong even early mons with max 31 IVs are. Sometimes, even a resisted attack and do up to 1/3, let alone just neutrals.

>>58598638
There's like a million
I like Unkown

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>>58598879
The dev of Altered Platinum (which uses Renegade Platinum as a base with permission from Drayano) decided to balance the lack of NPC EV's by removing EV Yields from every Pokemon (or something like that probably).
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-altered-platinum-sinnohan-forms-increased-difficulty-and-more.466016/

They said in one of their posts that they don't consider it cheating if people choose to max theirs mons IV's with PKHeX, since they would add Bottle Caps if they could. You could always do something similar if it's bothering you, but the the EV's you ARE gaining plus max IV mons might steamroll stuff later.

>>58598638
Give these a look?
https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/complete-pokefirered-pok%C3%A9mon-firered-and-leafgreen.454382/

https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/complete-pokefirered-pok%C3%A9mon-firered-and-leafgreen.454382/

I settled on Throwback once I'm done with Emerald Revelation.

>>58586680
>253 Pokemon
>28 are legendaries
Gross

>>58599092
*https://www.pokecommunity.com/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-throwback-v211001-kanto-your-way.285094/

>>58597623
>What do I do if I'm immediately getting bored of Renegade Platinum because I know every single trainer battle just has Maxed IVs
Give up on Pokemon and hacks. Most hacks are boring as fuck because the authors just loves boosting stats and then using a cheese strategy to prove it can be beaten.
Vanilla Pokemon on the other hand can be beaten with a starter without any thought.

>>58598288
>because DS hacking wasnt advanced enough
all battle facility pokemon have 510 EVs in gen 4/5

>>58598700
still in suspicious development hell
Jan doesn't like competition

>>58598899
>>58599092
>>58599097
Will check out, thanks anons

Man, Pokemon R.O.W.E. is impressive, but I feel as though the dev is almost too ambitious

>Cooks up a bunch of new features
>The next day he releases a patch because half of them were broken
>Weird Brazenglish grammar goes unfixed

>>58598638
>>58600474
Recharged Yellow also a good option

>>58599287
>Vanilla Pokemon on the other hand can be beaten with a starter without any thought.
And there's the problem, both sides just suck. You either get boring boosted stats or boring easy game. Even though I'd say Platinum is one of the most balanced games in this regard, which is pretty nice. Sometimes, you just want to have to use a little brain power and switch out to a different mon to counter something you're starter can't bulldoze.

>>58599287
>and then using a cheese strategy to prove it can be beaten.
If you can have puzzles in the overworld, why can't you have them in battle?

>>58600995
Because battles aren't puzzles, and you'll be at mercy to RNG every step of the way, from the pokemon you get, to the lucky crits or misses for actions made in battle

>>58601034
>Because battles aren't puzzles
Why can't they be?

>>58601037
How about you actually make a point instead of hiding behind the Why game as if sharing your thoughts on an anonymous imageboard is going to kill you.

>>58601070
I want to know why you think the way you do so we can further this discussion. Pokemon is a game about collecting a bunch of different kinds of monsters that all do different things. What exactly is the problem with making the player catch certain kinds of Pokemon in order to overcome an obstacle? Why can't a battle be a puzzle?

>>58601082
Not him but I don't want to be forced to use ugly gimmick mons

>>58601205
Tough shit.

>>58601082
The issue stems from thinking that needing a specific pokemon or setup is a puzzle in the first place. Battles aren't puzzles, specifically because they're battles. Their mechanics inherently and sponatenously deny the consistency that a lot of alternative strategies would allow to be a solution. Unless you heavily restrict the player's tools, or cover every edge case, there's always going to be someone who accidentally crits his way to victory. There's just no designing around luck unless you completely change the way battles work and remove all random elements, right down to the 50/50 shot of who goes first in speed ties, and making every move that isn't 100% accurate have an alternative but predictable way for them to land and miss.
Battles as they are in turn based RPGs cannot be puzzles by their very nature being about giving players the freedom to express their own battle strategies, and randomness existing to provide tension and a lack of predictability. Puzzles have to be predictable for them to have solutions. Imagine if in the spinning tile maze in Team Rocket's hideout, the spin tiles just had a chance to force you in a direction it wasn't pointing, either forcing you to start over, or completing the maze prematurely. That would be terrible puzzle design.

If you want to talk about how you can change battles so that they CAN be puzzle oriented, that's a different topic. The original post you started asking this question to never even called that type of design a puzzle, they just decried its design.

GET A ROOM YOU TWO

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>Try HeartGold Generations
>Everyone turns into MissingNo every few minutes

A promising start

>>58601838
That's a well known emulation problem that afflicts HGSS in general, nothing to do with the hack you're playing.

>>58601866
It actually happens in the original game, but you don't remember because it corrupts your memory

>>58601866
Huh, good to know

>>58601838
>Dev doesn't mention what happens if you are playing it on original hardware
Pray for me anons.

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Can I shit on Unbound for a minute?
I think the Battle Frontier services overlap and trivialize what wouldve otherwise been some pretty natural endgame systems. Trainer houses are completely pointless due to the EV Purger/Maxer. Soft reset shiny hunts are a waste of time due to the shady trader giving you one free shiny a day. Golden bottle caps are useless for their price, since a pokemon that has less than 3 perfect IVs can usually just be bred into having perfect IVs due to the Masuda Ditto the game gives you for free, and legendary/mythical pokemon have 3 guaranteed perfect IVs. There are no distinctions between doubles and singles formats for the trainer card stars which means that every facility barring randoms can be spammed with Specs Drought Typhlosion and Chlorophyll Lilligant doubles. Why did they give Typhlosion drought? Why did they give Typhlosion drought? The nature changer in the main story is damn near useless because of the nature changer in the battle frontier. Why do you need a gift code for gen 8 access? Why are some random legendary/mythical pokemon quest rewards with no event attached?
What the fuck is with Scalemons

>>58602232
>Golden bottle caps are useless for their price, since a pokemon that has less than 3 perfect IVs can usually just be bred into having perfect IVs due to the Masuda Ditto the game gives you for free, and legendary/mythical pokemon have 3 guaranteed perfect IVs.
At that point why even have random IVs in the first place

I'm going to play Light Platinum again. Is there any bug I should be aware?

>>58602232
Scalemons is designed to buff shitmons with a scaling stat algorithm that obviously doesn't work right, resulting in fuckups like this.

These "Endgame systems" you speak of... What meaningful gameplay would there be if these systems weren't trivialized?
>getting a perfect Ditto requires RNG grinding in the grass for one for a few hours, save editing, or RNG manipulation
>getting the expensive consumables that perfect EVs/IVs requires grinding trainer battles or bullshit minigames
>getting the perfect nature on your bred Pokemon requires the non-Ditto parent breeding holding a held item you find using a guide or buying Mints
>getting the perfect ability on your bred Pokemon requires RNG or an Ability Capsule

These aren't interesting. Not to me.

The faster Pokemon systems make interacting with tedious bullshit, the easier it is to realize they're not interesting systems. They're parasitic systems that waste time for little to no benefit. If you like interacting with them it's because your reward system has been hijacked to associate the end of tedium and release from boredom with the reward of meaningful progress.

>>58602340
One of the gyms has a hard lock where if you save next to the gym leader, the door to leave will become blocked and you'll have to restart the game.

>>58598072
I can't call myself "One man" when referring to the fact that I am one man? You're calling that dishonest because you think I was trying to lie about who I am? With that kind of reach, you should try boxing! You're that desperate to find fault in my character instead of my arguments, and that unable to? Buddy, stop, you're killing me here. Just post an ugly basedjack if you can't think of anything better.

Or, you know, you can engage with my argument as it is written.

I'm the only person here who ever talks about game design intelligently, that's why you've carried a grudge against me for literal years. That's pretty gay. This is supposed to be an uncensored fight, so I expect you to show up to a battle of wits uncensored, not unarmed.

>>58602232
>Soft reset shiny hunts are a waste of time due to the shady trader giving you one free shiny a day
I'm pretty sure that just turn a selected mon into shiny (so that's good for legendaries since those can't breed)
Everything else is kinda right, I haven't interacted much with Unbound's Endgame content but I can only assume that's because Unbound is unfinished/deprecated now that the emerald decomp exists

>>58602343
Personally, pokemon is one of those games where quality of life rides a fine line between improvements and functionally cheating. It's a creature collector, the process of training and optimizing them is itself the main gameplay loop, after the barebones tutorial that is the main storyline. To remove all of the friction between obtaining a pokemon and making them viable for the endgame removes a significant amount of investment in the game, and adds a sluggish malaise to fun things like the frontier and makes the losses and wins hit a bland equilibrium where it didnt really matter anyway because the barrier to entry was so low. This is a personal line, though, its different for everyone.

>>58602232
Imo realistically Pokémon difficulty should NEVER reach perfect stats (510 EVs/31 IVs) besides the absolute end game content (Super bosses or Battle Tower/Facilities)
IVs/EVs/Natures should be more than enough to make interesting and varied encounters
And before anyone here tries to discredit that those systems as "clunky" or "tedious" you have EVs/natures to offset a bad IV spread

>>58588790
>>58598453
Follow up question, anyone know if any fangame or romhack has a "cured" Paras/Parasect(aka free from the mushrooms)

>>58602415
There are more interesting games out there where distributing stats wisely becomes a question more interesting than "max attack and speed, or max attack and defense if relying on the inconsistent gimmick Trick Room".

In Fire Emblem Fates Conquest, Gold and EXP gain is limited, so reclassing to a class your unit is dogshit in temporarily to access its great skills requires a large investment. A larger one if it's a class you need to access through Friendship or Marriage.

It meaningfully changes your priorities and plans as you play the game. You can't just grind forever in endless battles to trade your IRL time for infinite resources and infinite spins of the RNG roulette.

Raising the weak little village girl Mozu to become powerful enough to oneshot the final boss is a commitment because using her means you're not using someone overwhelmingly strong out of the gate like Camilla.

Picture a Pokemon game where wild battles give 0 EXP forcing you to use your Pokemon in meaningful trainer battles limited in supply and full of meaningful interesting challenge.

>>58602591
nah you're just forcing everyone to read wikis so they don't make wrong choices

>>58602731
My boy Charizard on da juice!

>>58602715
There are no wrong choices in Fire Emblem Fates Conquest, you're just bad if you get softlocked. What, afraid you'll lose a few characters killing the final boss? That's part of the game too.

Good RPGs make loss a meaningful consequence and sacrifice a meaningful decision with tradeoffs.

People better at the game than you have beaten it with 0% Growths.

>>58602801
>There are no wrong choices in Fire Emblem Fates Conquest, you're just bad if you get softlocked.

AKA wrong choices lead you to getting softlocked

>>58602591
>Fire Emblem
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvL8q04WPc
This is you, right?
Look man I like Fire Emblem, i actually played through Fates Conquest and sure it's brutal and fun but the comparison with Pokémon is pretty unfair, ones a strategy grid-based RPG and the other is a monster collector RPG

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>>58600620
ROWE is really neat, quite a technical marvel. I had several Exiolite team ideas since the item concept is so cool, but I wish there were codes or something for moves. Some of the pre-evo mons movepools leave a lot to be desired, even with equivalent stats as their final forms. Guess I could try my hand at making some one day myself, I already relied on an anon here to do that for me in Fools Gold after all (Shootouts to my goat).

BTW, The dev released documentation for the v2.0+ earlier, nearly a year in the making:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11YNr5YdQapebGdrAQj8ee3X_SN72q6WE0QXVgzfMypE/edit?usp=drivesdk

>>58602731
default RPG maker sprites my beloved

>>58602383
tl;dr

>>58602383
okay, so you were just samefagging
glad for the clarification

>>58602814
Retard, if you walk off a cliff in a platformer and die that's on you. If you run out of lives and get a game over that's on you. Fire Emblem showers you in disposable new recruits. If you suck so hard you get a game over play on Easy Mode. Fire Emblem Fates is literally the one with "Phoenix Mode" where your dead units don't stay dead.

You're bitching about a game being too hard and complex for you when it's literally the easiest game in its franchise. But still too hard for Pokemon's target audience... (You).

>>58602853
Not my channel but the video is right, Fire Emblem has far more room for interesting design space than babby's first JRPG. If you don't mind sifting through all the "rebalances" and "remakes" that shoehorn in overpowered donut steels and disrespect the original game's authorial intent, there are good original games with characters that stick with you and stories that mean something.

>>58603248
okay, so you are just retarded and dishonest
glad for the clarification

Any new fakemon hacks recently?

>>58603326
go back to fire emblem then, buddy

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of course fire emblem guy was also HIM

Are there any hacks that have interesting gift/static Pokèmon? It feels like they all have starters, Eevee, Riolu, or Togepi. Not inherently bad just something that I’ve noticed playing a lot of hacks over the years

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Huge Power on a 109 attack stat on a pokemon that can hold an item
Why am I not even surprised

>>58604143
At least Jigglypuff isn’t available until Victory Road but yeah it’s laughably strong

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There are too many emerald decomp hacks. Anyone here ever get into world of warcraft private servers? After a while it feels exactly like that scene

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>>58604167
>ROWE is just ascension wow

>>58603910
Reborn is built around having a good chunk of everything worth catching being found via some overworld/gift/sidequest encounter, often with those mons coming with an egg, TM, or tutor move (sometimes multiple)
Much more fun and rewarding than just running back and forth in grass until RNG gives you the encounter you want

>>58603102
If you play a lot of JRPGs you can see where Rowe takes its systems from, and its interesting to see the pokemon take on it. Trainer Skills are pretty much lifted from SMT4 where you can choose passives that do pretty much the same thing barring pokemon specific things like eggs

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>>58604143
Finally... the esteemed legendary Guildmaster and grand master of all things bad... is given the respect he's long been due.
Seriously tho, wtf. What hack? Or fangame?

>>58604167
>>58604175
>Elite Redux is Turtle Wow

>>58602343
>>58602591
I should screencap both of these posts. Possibly the most compelling arguments in-favor of genning your pokemon for competitive play. I never was able to properly explain why anti-genning stances didn't make sense before but now I can put it into words. Thank you.

>>58603910
as much as I dislike rejuvenation, some of the shadow pokemon you can catch have pretty fun movesets

>>58604365
>I never was able to properly explain why anti-genning stances didn't make sense before...
NTA but Anon that's not rocket science: GF sucks at making different systems work together in fun ways (breeding for IVs and battling are stupidly disconnected) doesn't help that breeding in general is a RNG hell on top of another RNG hell, even worse for legendaries/0 IVs/specific IVs strats/Hidden Power in earlier Gens
Why in the fuck can't we unlock a "preview" of the egg stats? Or stack more power items? more item slots for more complex breeding? (breeding baby mons with good IVs and Nature)
You know those stupid ass sandwiches from S/V, right? Why not have an equivalent mechanic that makes it so every Wild/Static mon encountered will have a certain IV on a certain stat during a certain amount of time, and ofc make it so it can be stacked for more complex IV spreads.
There's a LOT that can be done to make getting Comp ready mons easier without turning it into a Showdown like menu

>>58604265
seems like Unbound with stat scaling enabled

>>58603326
>Fire Emblem has far more room for interesting design space than babby's first JRPG.
I mean is that really surprising?
>Strategy RPG with a Shit ton of entries and systems honed throughout the years is better than Regular RPG with simple gameplay
I get what you are saying but it adds nothing new to the Pokémon discourse: Pokémon really is the potential man of gaming, it will never be as good as it could have been, not with GF still piloting the franchise

>>58578943
Appalachianon here. Finally finished my concepts for the starters. Everything is subject to change, sure, but I plan on locking these in. Don't want to be like David and change them perpetually.
Any and all feedback is appreciated.

>Grass
Based on the prehistoric Megalonyx (Jefferson Ground Sloth).
Grass/Steel
Overgrow, Magic Guard (HA)
HP: 100
ATK: 70
DEF: 90
SpA: 120
SpD: 90
SPD: 60
Notable moves: Chloroblast, Steel Beam, Stealth Rock, Synthesis, Leech Seed, Earth Power, Power Gem, Yawn

>Fire
Based on the Sheepsquach cryptid.
Fire/Fairy
Blaze, Moxie (HA)
HP: 81
ATK: 125
DEF: 81
SpA: 81
SpD: 81
SPD: 81
Notable moves: Flare Blitz, Play Rough, Close Combat, Wild Charge, Bulldoze, Megahorn, Belly Drum, Cotton Guard

>Water
Based on the Northern Water Snake and Horned Serpent from mythology.
Water/Psychic
Torrent, Lightning Rod
HP: 71
ATK: 105
DEF: 72
SpA: 105
SpD: 72
SPD: 105
Notable moves: Flip Turn, Psychic Fangs, Horn Leech, Megahorn, Smart Strike, Freeze-Dry, Scald, Thunderbolt

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Is there a rom hack for Gen IV that speeds up the HP bars? That's literally all I want, and I can't stand how slow it is.
The cheat codes don't work on real hardware via TWiLight Menu++, and the ones from emulators make the whole game run at 60 frames, which feels too fast for Gen IV. What I want is something like Gen V: game at 30, battles + menus at 60.
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/5938/
>Time Enough - HP bars update up to 2x as fast. Purely aesthetic, but good QoL
I found this one that supposedly fixes that, but it's full of a bunch of stuff I don't want, plus...
>A Silver Tongue - The core plot is identical, but a sizable amount of dialogue has been changed to make NPCs and bookshelves more interesting
Yeah, I'm sure it has. The donut steel dialogue must be up there with dev self-inserts as ultimate secret bosses.

>>58604181
That's pretty interesting, thx anon. I haven't played any SMT games yet, will try one at some point.

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>>58604143
>>58604265

My pink KING

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I have a vision for a hack of FRLG essentially merging the version exclusive aspects into a single game.
I want to call it Pokémon Brushfire.
The Pokédex and only Pokémon obtainable are depicted in picrel.
The Pokédex is essentially a reordered New Dex.
Unlike FRLG the encounter tables add gen 2 pokemon that can be found in Gold & Silver when visiting Kanto.
The ability to obtain family evos or gen 2 pokémon isnt limited to post game.
Day & Night cycle added as well.
Basically Kanto with a retcon to the 151 Pokémon, now its 253.
Elite Four rematches will have updated teams to reflect the availability of Pokémon in the game.

>>58605629
throw it on the pile of the other millions of hacks that already exist with this exact concept

>>58607079
whoops, meant for >>58607017

>>58607017
Do with pokeemerald, add cross evos from future gens and add regional variants in Sevii

>>58571129
add red++ to the list for gen I

>>58605629
do you want to go with interesting or competitively usable starters?
also what are you gonna name your game (so I can follow)?

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Need advice:
>you beat Pokemon Platinum demake for GBA
>Open up dex to gen 8+ postgame
>Possibly go to new region

Do you go to A) a new region made from scratch or B) An Old Region/Real Pokemon location (like Sevii) to explore. What makes a post game worth playing?

>>58597489
>Coral - final version, 2 more weeks
why'd you have to give me hope, fucking bastard.

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Looking for a good hack to play. Any balance hacks you suggest that accepts suggestions and feedback?
Preferably no legendary Pokémon / megas / gimmicks (I would love for those to be on the NPC-side though)

>>58607784
A. I’ve seen enough of the canon regions.

>>58607784
Anything but Sevii, please stop.
They are not that interesting and/or deep for Postgame stuff

signs you're playing a soulless hack
>removes the ledges from Fuchsia City

>>58608841
>Newly added items are all for sale from a vendor instead of being scattered across the region

>>58608841
>the dev talks to you at the beginning of the game, instead of a NPC
>there is no lore or explanation for additions
>Pokémon are added to already existing areas, but no explanation is given as to why (could be NPC comments, or environmental storytelling)
>You are able to change far too many systems in the game (it tells us that the developer was indecisive of what could and couldn't be good)

>>58609001
>You are able to change far too many systems in the game

I actually appreciate having a shitload of options

Let me turn EVs on or off mid-playthrough, randomizers, you name it

>>58609011
It's convenient, but it is not soulful.
There is such a thing as too much QoL. And decision fatigue is also a real phenomenon that is better off avoided.

Remember: this is for "SOUL" stuff. This is a really subjective thing, but I think that a dev with a clear decision of where the hack should go has soul.

>>58608841
Giving canon Trainers Pokèmon that don’t fit their speciality or character

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>>58605629
>Grass Starter
>Magic Guard (Life Orb eating for free)
>Chloroblast
>Steel Beam

>>58605629
didn't know smogon CAP was making another set of fire/water/grass starters

>>58607784
Travel back to the past (Hisui) via Time Travel mechanic. Either Dialga or Celebi can be the conduit, or an item. Allows for a new region experience that also relates to the Sinnoh story, and can also make Hisuian formes available this way (and also can use teleport scripts to make up for the Fly location barrier problem that comes up with new regions).

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>>58608397
True
>>58608491
Lol youre right, but this gave me the idea to do like pitstop on sevii to fake out the player and only make one island available before the true destination
>>58609361
Thats a great idea actually. I am also considering time traveling to the future to Kitakami (with non canon extra locations) for the rest of the dex

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Do you agree?

>>58609648
replace radical red with literally anything

>>58609722
I mean if we're talking about impact, it's hard to deny Radical Red was really influential, even if you don't like it

>>58608841
Literally anything canon Pokemon games also fucked up. Like anticlimax Legendary fights where you just throw a Master Ball and win.

and...
>overpriced Pokeballs
>donut steel super Pokemon with abilities/held items that disable usual cheese strats because beating something "correctly" means hitting it for ages with a hyper offense team
>worthless weak rival who doesn't push you to grow or illustrate the flaws in ideas through his journey
>NPCs steal your thunder as the protagonist but never help you meaningfully during battle
>Forced teamup with a NPC who FUCKING SUCKS when this NPC is supposed to be strong and impressive not a fucking liability
>no lore justifying the existence of secret bosses
>NPCs react and emote for you and are more connected to the actual world and characters than you as if the author thinks you're a FAGGOT who needs a blank slate protagonist representing you at all times
>FUCKING PRONOUNS
>nothing new added to the Game Corner
>safe-edgy story with swearing and high stakes but no meaningful ideas to interrogate and engage with
>stale memes
>regional forms and fakemon are RARE and INCONVENIENT to catch
>Any "Tradeback Guy" or "Link Cable" item instead of an abundance of NPCs offering Pokemon who evolve via trade.
>Dev didn't consider the implications of QOL features, such as...
>>EV/IV-perfecting items for sale in a game where they can be turned off or the menu lets you edit them freely.
>>NPC in every Pokemon Center to "Remove Grinding" except he charges big money/heart scales you have to grind for.
>>Nature Mint store, in a game with easy nature changing

>>58607079
>>58607168
All good.
>>58607737
>do you want to go with interesting or competitively usable starters?
Ideally both, but without too much min-maxing if that makes sense.
>also what are you gonna name your game (so I can follow)?
Long ways out, no name picked out yet.
>>58609344
Lmao I forgot about Life Orb. Maybe I should do some calcs and pull back the Special Attack if needed.
Strong Grass STAB is valuable, but Steel is somewhat middling aside from Fairy-types.
>>58609360
Cannot tell if this is supposed to be an insult or not.
If this is a jab, can you please explain more? I am open to criticism as long as you provide context.

>>58609648
what about prism? that actually got a c&d

>>58609648
>Unbound
>Radical Red
No.

>>58610024
ok contrarian

>>58610029
Unbound is a good romhack but it's way too overated, and it's not even finished.
Radical Red started all the retard FR/EMERALD BUT HARDER ENEMIES WITH PERFECT IV EVS LEGENDARIES ALL ITEMS LEVEL CAP, "b-but it added qol from newer generati-" still sucks for the retard legacy it had on romhacks

>>58609790
I'd reccomend switching the attack and special attack of the grass starter though maybe 85 base special attack. Free steel beam and chloroblast are incredibly op especially with life orb. It does a whopping 65% to max spdef Magearna, so nearly everything else is being ohkod with hazards. 70 turns it down to 45%, still amazing but manageable. This way the hidden ability lets it play completely differently to how it plays without it, just like Serperior who's best ingame strategy is coil.

>>58609938
Not him but I heard the last new version add rainbows stuff in it and change some attack name

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>try out a few hacks of base game
>Basically "enhanced" base games
>Trade Pokemons still have their shitty nicknames
I must be literally the only one who is bothered by this apparently

>>58610037
>b-but it added qol from newer generati-"
Even that's debatable imo, sure Dex nav is cool and all but Radical Red is poorly designed (imagine being so dogshit at making good battles that you have to nerf Corviknight c'mon man)

>>58610735
>Using trade Pokèmon
Ew.

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>(Nuzlocke only)
>(after saving the world)
>Requirements: Elite Four defeated

>>58608841
Infinite Rare Candies or the like for 0 effort grinding. Emerald Rouge gets a pardon though since it's designed for you to be constantly picking up and dropping mons.

>>58609737
>donut steel super Pokemon with abilities/held items that disable usual cheese strats because beating something "correctly" means hitting it for ages with a hyper offense team
>NPCs steal your thunder as the protagonist but never help you meaningfully during battle
>Forced teamup with a NPC who FUCKING SUCKS when this NPC is supposed to be strong and impressive not a fucking liability
>safe-edgy story with swearing and high stakes but no meaningful ideas to interrogate and engage with
>stale memes
>regional forms and fakemon are RARE and INCONVENIENT to catch
>NPC in every Pokemon Center to "Remove Grinding" except he charges big money/heart scales you have to grind for.
I too have played Rejuvenation

I'm playing Fire Red Extended and holy shit, I think it's a beautiful game in regards to routes being redesigned and battle backgrounds but the level curve is retard, why am I fighting my rival at SS Anne and he has level 35 pokémon, why are the routes so complicated to navigate to

There's literally no point in making Fire Red romhacks when pokeemerald exists

>>58608391
Bump.

>>58609648
Unbound, Gaia, Snakwood, Seaglass

>>58609648
I'd replace RR with Vega personally

>>58610037
>Radical Red started all the retard FR/EMERALD BUT HARDER ENEMIES WITH PERFECT IV EVS LEGENDARIES ALL ITEMS LEVEL CAP
yeah, which is why it's on the mount rushmore. the guys on rushmore are there because they shaped America, not necessarily because they're the best american politicians ever. and both those games have undeniably had a huge hand in shaping the romhacking community, for better or worse.

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>>58602447
I tried my hands at removing the mushrooms from the back of the gen 5 sprite but I suck at the whole pixel art thing. If anyone here could point out anything that looks weird I would appreciate it.

>>58613321
Sorry, meant for my prior post: >>58602460

>>58613321
i like it :)

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>>58613414
Thanks, I made some small adjustments. Not sure if it improved anything.

>>58611296
Unless you're literally third world, grinding doesn't take "effort".

It takes time, and people better than you have better things to do with their time than grind in Pokemon romhacks.