>>58598762
You grew up, anon.
Pokemon is MADE FOR JAPANESE CHILDREN.

>>58598762
fuck off kid

>>58598762
Pokemon ZA literally has adult protagonists

XY is the only game in which the protagonists were the same age as me, back when it first released. Now almost every protagonist is less than half of my age.
>>58598768
Majority of players are adults, even in japan. All the kids are too busy playing gacha slop, and yes, that includes japanese kids with their uma and mihoyo games on their phones.

>>58598783
>Majority of players are adults, even in japan
Source?

>>58598775
They’re referred to by literally everyone as a “kid”, even in the original japanese text, meaning they’re still not adults.

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I want a Pokemon game where you can play as Larry

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>>58598797
Same

>>58598762
>selene
>12
don't the games outright say out loud multiple times that you're 11 years old?

>>58598762
Why would someone wait until becoming an adult to receive their first Pokemon and go on an adventure?

>>58598797
Why does he have square eyes?

>>58598878
maybe they were busy with school or something

>>58598878
Plenty of protagonists already had pokemon, but they’re relegated to being pets in their house. Moreover, SV stated that the Mesagosa academy enrolls people of all ages, adults included.

>>58598787
I wouldn’t take “kid” as literal kid. Many older adults call young adults kid even if they’re over 18. We will never get canon ages but I do believe the ZA protagonist are 18

>>58598979
Yeah.
>>58598787
Shut up, kid.

>>58598762
No, because the literal entire point of Pokemon is that it's a coming of age story.
Also, it makes zero sense for a person living in the Pokemon world to wait until adulthood to get their first Pokemon, it's already awkward enough the ZA protagonist is old enough to go touring to Lumiose all by themselves but not have a single Pokemon and be treated like they don't know what a Pokemon is.

>>58598762
"Ethan", "Brendan", "Dawn"

My brother in Christ, their names are Gold, Ruby, and Pearl.

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>>58598762
But you are one, kid.

>>58599045
>it makes zero sense for a person living in the Pokemon world to wait until adulthood to get their first Pokemon
Your character could've had severe allergies which got cured by recent medical advances, or had a fear similar to Lillie and wanted to go on the adventure to finally overcome it.

>>58598762
>I’m tired of NPCs calling me a kid.
Why does it bother you, are you insecure or something?

>>58598762
No, now keep playing the 3+ game plz

>can we get adult protagonists in the game meant for kids
I think teenage protags are a good balance of that itch, either way you'll have a better chance playing a different franchise.
On an actual note the true best compromise would be selecting your height or whatever in a character creator

>>58598762
there's no way Juliana's little ass is 14, especially when you compare her to her friends bodies, they look like actual teenagers, Juilana looks like a middle schooler who just turned 13 or 12

I think Protagonists beyond the age of 10 or kid range would probably get grounded within the mindset of one though, which should be easy since it's Pokemon where everyone encourages or endulges in the antics akin to that of a child.

For a teenager and a adult it's probably a good idea to make a destinct feeling compared to the child protagonist from a gameplay perspective in regards to guidance.
>Teenager who had trouble getting in touch for becoming a trainer and had to wait years later until an opportunity arose. They mostly get help at the bare minimum basics but they're likely left to fend for themselves
>Adult who is stuck being discontent about his life sees the big league battles with a kid winning, causing the mindset of: "If a kid can do it what's my excuse", causing you to embark on a journey to reclaim the thrill of your own choices. As an adult, you're pretty left on your own or you get to those scaled down skewls in terms of assistance.

I think the point is about immersion, don't make the teenager and adult protagonist just skin-walkers, make them feel relevant akin to that.

>>58599045
>it makes zero sense for a person living in the Pokemon world to wait until adulthood to get their first Pokemon
No reason they couldn't do something like Coliseum and simply have the protagonist start out with one (or two, in Coliseum's case). They could even keep the whole choose-a-starter thing as a gameplay mechanic if they wanted to while simply framing it in a different way from usual

>>58598979
>>58598981
AZ literally refers to Team MZ as "children", but go off.

>>58599460
AZ is literally thousands of years old he'd call fucking everyone children

>>58599468
And yet he doesn't, just Team MZ.

>>58598768
Pokemon is practically a game inspired by bug collecting hobbies during japanese childhood.
>>58598783
>Majority of players are adults, even in japan.
manchildren, womanchildren, kidults

>>58599045
Monster Hunter Stories 3 will feature an adult protagonist instead of the kid protags we saw in 1 & 2. Why can’t Pokemon do the same?

>>58599501
Because Monster Hunter is a franchise that was always catered towards a somewhat older audience than Pokemon is. The young protagonists wasn't even the main focus, they just wanted an RPG series set in the MonHun world to explore the setting and lore, having young MCs just made it easier to write about. Meanwhile Game Freak is all about minimum effort and playing it safe. Kid protagonists to sell to kids is their modus operandi.

>>58599501
Because Pokémon is FAR larger than monster hunter and aimed at kids, Kids react best to vidya characters when they're relatable to them (ie, they're clearly and obviously children in appearance) so small wonder they keep the protags as children. There's millions more playing it than will ever even LOOK at "monstyer hunterr stories twee".

>>58599475
Pretty sure when he was referring to children having to deal with the sins of his past he wasn't talking specifically about team MZ but the humans of the present as a whole. Like how every god character in jrpgs talks down to humanity like "my children" because they are all descendants/creations of them

>>58599339
Not viable for a player character, they need to be as generic, blank slate, no quirks, no flaws, no nuances "good kid who cares a whole lot about everyone and everything" as possible in order to ensure they're self-insertable to virtually any player. Remember, Pokemon wants the lowest common denominator, and that includes making your player character as utterly boring as possible so the player can impose their own attributes onto the character.

>>58599457
Problem is that takes away from the importance of "taking your first independent step" in the coming of age story by having it so you already have your starter, which has always been treated as a rite of passage moment where you're "finally ready to go out into the world on your own." Never mind that non-Legends games have been putting increasing significance on having the first 30 minutes of the game be a gradual buildup to getting your first Pokemon, to further hammer in that "this is your big day, at long last!!!" vibe.

>>58599522
You’re telling me I was the only kid in the entire world who hated kid protagonists and loved adult protagonists? Or, at the very least, protagonists who were older than me, which has been the case until I was the exact same age as the protagonists in Black/White and XY.

>>58599460
Both Naveen and Lida mention they left their studies to work on fashion and dancing respectively, Lida says at some point she had trouble finding a job and a place to live by herself before meeting Taunie, and Taunie looks obviously in her late teens at best, most likely early twenties, and she's a copy of the protagonist

If they're not adults they're very fucking close

>>58599531
Nice cope, but AZ isn't a god, we MET Pokémon god and they still went and decided to put a teenager as the protag in this because they just DON'T want to make adult protags and expect kids to play through with them.

>>58599535
Taunie also leaves to become the Ceo of a corporation in the end, she's not a "kid"

>>58599539
Hes a 3000+ year old giant, literally ancestor to modern humans. You are actually so fucking dense its unreal.

>>58599539
>b-but he's not a god!!
That was an example, you fucking idiot, no one was saying AZ is literally a god.
Rather, he IS over 3000 years old, so he'll call literally anyone "kid" or "child" because no human is as old as him. All he sees when he looks at humanity today are people with the potential to fuck up as massively as he did, children who know no better and won't know better without guidance, lest they repeat his mistakes and learn the hard way.
He's literally seen the rise and fall of nations, endured conflicts galore, witnessed countless historical events in real-time, some recorded, some lost, some recorded THEN lost, and has even played a part in influencing history.

>>58599533
No, that sounds like egotism to the extreme "I'm the only man who learned what shit pokémon was as a child". The point is you and all the other little disaffected worms in your youth are still irrelevant as a opinion, compared the the actual sales-total numbers of games sold. I'd bet money on you having a few million split personalities, I wouldn't bet they'd be able to imapact the world to the point baba gets his kiddy toy, but "fer adultz"

>>58598762
The one that lacks child-like wonder is the saddest person on Earth.

>>58599541
>says the negroid crying a kid's game continues to present kid characters as protagonists
Go the Mirror Tommy, ya deaf. dumb and blind bastard.

>>58599577
>says the negroid crying a kid's game continues to present kid characters as protagonists
I'm not doing that at all though? lmao

>>58599548
>so he'll call literally anyone "kid" or "child" because no human is as old as him
And yet he doesn't. Just the obviously kid protagonists.

>>58598797
Kino

>>58599045
Maybe Paxton/Harmony was focusing on studying engineering or something.

>>58598787
Shut up, kid.

>>58599052
Pearl is the blond rival, her name is Platinum

>>58599457
>Colosseum spelt with an i
Why can no one spell Colosseum correctly? Fucking burgers.

>>58598811
iirc PLA is the only game that actually tells you how old the protagonist is

>>58598762
>"NOOOO, I've been playing the same franchise for 30 years and am now upset they're still marketing towards children. This upsets my fragile ego"
I'm glad I never cared about the ages of my characters

>>58599668
Pearl is a girls name, the blond rival is a bellend called Barry.

They couldn't have been called Platinum because they existed before Platinum did

>>58599052
>Nigga named Sword

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>>58598762
There should be a bald option. It would cheer up kids with cancer and us guys dealing with balding

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>>58598762
can we at least make them sexy again?

>>58599959
Balding men should kill themselves desu

>>58598762
>Juliana
>14
>older than Gloria
Wtf is this retard smoking?

>>58599959
No. If you can afford a $70 Pokemon game you can afford finasteride

>>58598762
No, I like cute lolis.

>>58599501
That's because monster hunter is cool.
Pokemon isn't.

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>>58598762
Whoever made that pic should be tortured to death
>Red: 11
>Brendan: 12
>Ethan: 12
>Lucas: 12
>Hilbert: 14
>Nate: 12 in the manga
>Calem: 14
>Elio: 11
>Victor: 13
>Florian: Unknown, but is as tall as Calem
>Rei: People from 150 years ago think he's 15 but he's shorter than Lucas so...
There you go, fixed with info from official sources and the tera leak.

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>>58599431
Nah it's just the uniform. Not saying she is that old, she's probably 12 or 13 imo, but pic related easily passes as a petitte girl who just turned 14

kids game
kids franchise
kids medium

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>>58598762
I never understood the argument that kids NEED to have a 11 year old protagonist or else they won't relate and ask their parents to buy the game. When I was a kid I always wanted my trainer avatar to be older and cooler than a kid like me. I remember getting excited at how Calem was visibly older than the previous protagonists and could be customized further. I see this same type of argument when people say that these games shouldn't have more focused plots or difficulty settings because "kids don't want/care about that". Me, my friends, the kids at school, and the obvious 13 year olds in youtube comments raved about N and black/white specifically because of these elements. It's like you're arguing to feed a kid slop while saying no kid will ever care if something tastes good or not.

>>58601772
Florian's voice didn't break yet as he is voiced by a woman in Masters, which means it's unlikely he's older than 13. So it would be the same for Juliana.
They are also 150cm tall, which is the average for 11-13 year old Caucasians.

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It's still funny to imagine that Red is the only protagonist who gets to age up

>>58601826
>Florian's voice didn't break yet
Stopped reading here. Florian doesn't have a voice in canon, whatever non canon shit you are using as source doesn't matter

>>58598811
Yeah but the author of the pic is a retard, have you considered that?

>>58601810
>Me, my friends, the kids at school, and the obvious 13 year olds in youtube comments raved about N and black/white specifically because of these elements
Anecdotal. Gen 5 was so widely poorly received outside your little circle, GameFreak never tried with their writing ever again.

>>58601826
>They are also 150cm tall, which is the average for 11-13 year old Caucasians.
Calem is 150cm tall as well and he's 14, dumbass

>>58601896
>bortie thinks gen 5 has good writing and that Game Freak "never tried with their writing" again
A fart from gen 9 has better writing than the entirety of gen 5 buddy

>>58601896
Poorly received by a crowd that felt the need to disavow their childhood obsession as proof of their maturity+genwunners that never played anything beyond gen 2 were literally just running the "old thing good new thing bad" routine. The haters didn't know jack shit about the plot or "mature" elements. The anti pokemon sentiment was based almost entirely on the gen 5 pokedex and how vannilite and trubbish pissed in their cereal. Additionally, people were starting to feel unsatisfied with pokemon not having a proper 3DS installment, which is a part of why XY blew up the way it did despite lacking in more areas than gen 5.

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>>58598762
>Red 10
>Selene 12
>Gloria 13
>Juliana 14
3 of these have official ages and there's no way Gloria is 13. The fuck is this guy on?

>>58601841
we almost had the BW protags return in BW2 but they bitched out on that

>>58601928
Only 2 of these have official ages unless you count the leaks, and in that case Gloria *is* 13. You are almost as retarded as that pic

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>>58598762
Its funny how battle revolution gave you several body types to choose from for your character and the mainline games have yet to incorporate this 20 years later

You are never going to get an adult protagonist in a "coming of age" story

>>58601953
Yeah, I completely forgot Juliana doesn't have one yet, but the Galar protags are at least Gen 5 age.

>>58602063
As far as the development goes Victor/Gloria are 13yo kids so they are younger than Hilbert/Hilda. Anything else is plain headcanon

>>58601898
Source?

>>58598931
capitalism

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>it's another episode of "adults ask a children's franchise to do something that hundreds of adult franchises are already doing"

>>58602135
Its exactly why I don't want adult protagonists. I don't want to give a single inch to these people.

>>58601772
The girl trying to get in my pants is closer to her 16 than 15 and she looks like this

>>58602125
For the heights or the age?

>>58602181
Both

>>58598762
Playing a child is baked into the identity of Pokémon. Saying that Poemon protags should be adults is like saying Persona protags shouldn't be high school students.

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>>58602192
The official line of figures with characters and pokemon properly scaled and the teraleak. XY protagonist is (or at least was planned to be) 14yo and Calem and Florian are both 150cm tall.

>>58600349
But I don't wanna turn into a tranny!

>>58602234
>Serena is shorter than Florian and Juliana
Oh no no no no no

>>58602214
>is like saying Persona protags shouldn't be high school students
but P2EP's MC isn't in high school

>>58602135
You’re an intellectually dishonest little bitch. The conundrum of adults reading/watching shonen manga/anime, most of which are new and get serialized for five years, isn’t at all comparable to people growing up with a nearly-30 year old franchise. The most comparable shonen series that is just as old as Pokemon is One Piece. Despite the fact that the series is marketed for teenagers, it’s consumed by a vast majority of adults, and One Piece actually deals with very adult topics because the mangaka is aware of his aging audience that stuck with the manga since its inception.

You acting like Pokemon can’t even do the same, even though the majority of Pokemon fans are indeed adults, makes you look like a big fat contrarian idiot.
>>58602151
no one cares for your excuses, pedo.

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>>58598762
At least with the cartoonish artstyle there's room for me to interpret the protagonist as a young adult chibified. The reason why the LGPE and SV protagonists absolutely suck is because they're going to look like a kid no matter how you slice it.

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>>58601841
I'll be surprised if they ever bring him back in a mainline game that doesn't take place in the past. The man is pushing 40 now.

>>58598762
they could let us make our own avatars and change a couple lines of dialogue to accommodate the age or whatever

>>58603664
Nah he's in the middle of his 30s, if anything gen X should be the perfect chance to bring him back one last time

Drives me insane that almost every issue the series has boils down to laziness. It doesn't take much effort to make at least two more models for older people who play, and they hide behind the excuse that the series is "for kids" despite fully knowing that most of the people playing are not kids and would appreciate an older model. Calem and Serena were a nice compromise, why can't we have more of that?

>>58603723
Anon, he was 10 in Red and Green and it's been 29 years since then. Pokemon games usually have a contemporary setting, and he'll be 40 by the time Winds and Waves come out.

>>58603734
>he was 10
Stopped reading here. You are a certified retard.

>>58603748
Is this another case of zoomer revisionism? Yes, he was 10.

>>58603757
It's a case of you being a fucking retard who confuses the ashnime with the canon games (or worse, a fucking bong). No, he wasn't 10, he has never been 10 in any game.

>>58603763
>It's a case of you being a fucking retard
Projection. Take your meds.

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>>58603734
11 actually

>>58603773
>no rebuttal
So I take you realized your only source for Red being 10 was the ashnime/bong fanfiction and are too ashamed to admit it. Too bad.

>>58603775
Thanks for the clarification instead of the other anon throwing a hissy fit. So Red is already 40 now.

>Red
Kys faggot

>>58603777
1 year difference, wow. Take your meds.

>>58603789
>haha it's almost the same please forgive me
Nah, you don't get to save face, you are a fucking retard just like I said, you confirmed it yourself. And no, he's not 40 by now
>11yo in the first games
>gen 2 is three years later, so he was 14 there
>gen 4 is some time after 2, should be about 15
>BW is roughly ten years after that so he must be like 25
>the sequel is after two years, so 27
>Z-A is five years later, making him 32
Unless WW is eight years after Z-A the guy willl be in the middle of his 30s, not 40.

>>58603813
Why is this anon having a meltdown over a minor error?

>>58603817
>please just let me pretend I'm not the kind of casual retard who thinks Pokemon protagonists are 10yo in 2025
It's as easy as saying "sorry, I got it wrong" instead being a little bitch about it.

>>58603813
Anon, you realize ZA takes place in the past, right? Every gen since BW has taken place in the year of its release. SM even makes reference to the 20 years.

>>58603824
I thanked the other anon for the clarification. You get no apologies because you're an unhinged dickwad, that's how it works.

>>58598981
There goes the Thnikkaman!!!

>>58603813
What about when Red and Blue showed up in Alola to work at the battle tree?

>>58598768
this series is played mostly by millennial manchildren nowadays

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>>58598768
https://pokemonblog.com/2016/10/21/game-freak-explains-how-pokemon-aims-to-appeal-to-players-of-all-ages/

>>58603828
I don't need apologies, thank you, I'm just telling you what you would have to do to be treated like a person and not the subhuman you are, since you seemed so conflicted by it.
Personally I've seen to many retards who think Red is 10 to care about you specifically.

>>58603825
Not every gen, just look at 3 and 4. Z-A is clearly not in the past since the phone model is newer than the one used in SV. Not to mention that even if we ignore gens 3 and 4 and put every other game at release date without exceptions that would mean Z-A happens a year before Leon's defeat, since X and Y came out in 2013 and Sword and Shield in 2019, six years later.

The only games that match release dates so far are
>RGB
>GSC
>BW
>B2W2
>probably XY
>SM

>>58603848
That's 2 years after XY, 3 years before ZA just do the math

>>58603861
I'm not conflicted by it. All I did was make a minor error and you proceeded to call me a retard right off the bat. If you just posted the instruction manual with a simple clarification instead of calling me a retard you could've saved this thread from a lot of drama. So no, I'm not going to give you what you don't deserve, fuck you.
>phone model as evidence
This is the series that gave you a phone in the early 1900s. I don't think using a phone is reliable evidence to say that ZA takes place after SV. This would also contradict a lot of things because Pokemon games tend to reference events of previous games, and Leon is still referred to as the Galar champion by Jacinthe.

>>58603861
>Not every gen, just look at 3 and 4
Also, fucking read. I said since BW.

>>58603876
>the retard genuinely didn't play the games
Arceus' phone is literal god magic on a modern smartphone from the present, not an actual smartphone developed by the technology humans had in Hisui times, and Jacinthe says they had the champion Leon in the last event, which may have happened last year for all we know, meanwhile two NPCs talk about keeping a winning streak and one mentions even Leon was eventually defeated, confirming without a doubt the game takes place after Victor/Gloria beats the guy.
Also I didn't post the manual because I have it saved on my computer and I'm phoneposting, insomnia is a bitch. And I don't owe you any spoonfeeding anyway, do your homework next time.

>>58603892
My bad, but like I said, Sword and Shield are confirmed to happen before Z-A despite being released 6 years after X and Y so you are still wrong.

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>>58603908
>Sword and Shield are confirmed to happen before Z-A
Sauce? I don't trust that you're arguing in good faith when you insist on calling me a retard, dickwad. You're not even fully reading my posts.

>>58603922
Oh, the irony. Try fully reading my post next time. Literally the post you are replying to.

>>58603939
I've had plenty of anons making stuff up to seem like they're in the right when they're being this antagonistic, so yes I want to see a screenshot of NPC's referencng Leon being defeated. If that is indeed the case, then it makes the timeline very messy. This could theoritically make Sword and Shield take place before SM by proxy, so there's no telling when gen 10 could take place.

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>>58603949
>spoonfeed me daddy
God you are so fucking useless
And information about Ultra Beasts, including their names, is public by the time the Crown Tundra happens, with Mohn even being mentioned so it should be after Sun and Moon. Doesn't really matter tho, the point is that some games do match release dates and some don't, even after gen 4, and Z-A isn't set in the past at all.

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>>58603908
>and Jacinthe says they had the champion Leon in the last event, which may have happened last year for all we know
>>58603922
It was a few days before Z-A

>>58603989
Then the games don't take place in the date they release after all. You didn't have to be so antagonistic though, I don't know what your fucking problem is.

>>58604001
Not in my translation, I will have to check the japanese version.
Still, this isn't up to debate >>58603989
Leon used to be unbeatable until he fought Victor/Gloria, and he already lost by the time Z-A happens so the game is 100% after Sword and Shield and Leon is just one of Galar's past champions.

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>>58602234
Why did they do it? They clearly have older proportions than most other protags

>>58604066
>make 17 year old protags as a nice middle ground for the younger and older fans
>proceed to double down on younger looking protagonists for the next 12+ years
Indeed, why?

>>58604076
gen 7 was the defacto pedo generation, and Game Freak has stuck with that since then for the mainline games. It’s a travesty.

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>>58604024
>I will have to check the japanese version.
I've got you, anon.
It still seems to say the same thing about how former champion Leon was there a couple of days before you.

>>58604066
XY was very fashion focused and the first time GF properly wanted to add romance in the games because l'amour and shit so they were purposely stylized to look older. In SV they went full harem because hot latin passion I guess, but they also focused the game a lot on the "coming to age" aspect with the school, the actual friend group and even the names (in japanese Florian and Juliana names literally combine into the word for youth) so they were stylized to look young instead.

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>>58604081
Isn't SM the first game that Ohmori fully directed? He looks like THAT type of otaku.

>>58604090
His teeth are yellow from all the pee he drinks from little kids...

>>58604082
Yeah this says Dande (Leon) was the champion of Galar, rather than being a current champion so yes, all this is after Galar games

>>58604076
No MC has ever been 17, if you are thinking about the Emma comparison she's never said to be younger than you, she's just short (and considering she's a hobo it's no surprise)

>>58604113
I thought it was because Serena and Calem were the oldest in their friend group

>>58604133
Was that ever said? In the teraleak Tierno is older than them iirc and none of their ages are stated ingame

>>58604113
I think it's just based on how they look visually

>>58604147
You're making me imagine Tierno as a man in his mid 20s hanging out with teenagers now.

>>58604164
Nah Calem/Serena are 14, Trevor was like 11 I think, and Tierno 17. Which is kinda odd considering those two are always together and Shauna is the one who hangs out with Calem and Serena.

>>58604185
>17 year old best friends with an 11 year old
Uh oh. oh no. No no.

>>58604204
To be fair Trevor seems the most intelligent and... adjusted of the two if you get what I mean

>>58601898
that's almost certainly not the intention. the leaks outright showed that they chose 152cm as the height for brendan and may because that's the average height for 12 year olds in japan. they explicitly stated that. all the protagonists are based on the national average for their given age. and the magma/aqua grunts were also the national average for japanese adults.

>>58604224
Just because they designed gen 3 characters with that idea (mind you that date is for RSE and got reused for ORAS) doesn't mean it's the same logic used for Calem. Also the 14yo the leak mentions could have been changed to Calem could be even younger for all we know, but what is official for present day Calem is that he's 150cm tall, it's literally one of the latests figures the scale series has released.

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Ahem.
Serena's isn't final, I have yet to see a source for the size of her figurine.

>>58604357
>trainer figurines
What's the figure series, scale and company that makes them? I wouldn't mind buying a couple to put on my shelf.
Gloria, if she's the right scale, would look good at my poker table diorama playing against professor Indiana Jones, unmasked Iron Man (with the old pencil stache), and unmasked 60's Batman

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>>58604373
The Pokémon Scale World series is produced by Bandai and distributed only in Japan, scales all the trainers and creatures at a 1/20 of their true size, has all those trainers, some variations (like Victor and Gloria in the gym challenge uniform, Kris, OG Brendan and May...) and like 240 different pokemon figurines (a few of them are of the same pokemon but only when they are released in multiples packs, like there are two Bulbasaur, three Pikachu, a few like that).
I doubt you can ever get yourself those without importing. I think some of them are even exclusive to some specific stores (not only Pokémon Centers).

And unless Henry and Tony figures are like 9 cm tall, Gloria's 7.75cm tall figure will look ridiculous next to them.

>>58604438
I would love to get at least one version of every character but
>Red
>Ethan
>Brendan
>Lucas
>Calem
>Victor
>Rei
>Florian
I'm sure it's niche series and will cost a decent amount, multiply that for the eight protagonists they have so far and it's gonna be quite the money. And they have yet to add five more protagonist.

>>58604438
Thanks, anon. Time to throw good money away.
I was in Japan 2 months ago. If I knew this toy line existed, I would've bought a bunch then.

>>58598762
>Juliana (14)
that is a fucking LIE
the SV protagonists are 9 years old at fucking most
god I hate running around looking like a fucking elementary schooler in those games

>>58604438
>unless Henry and Tony figures are like 9 cm tall, Gloria's 7.75cm tall figure will look ridiculous next to them
They're 6-inch scale, so they'll tower over Gloria.

>>58604502
I know. The academy in SV shows and explains it is attended by people of all ages, from pre-schoolers to adults, and yet, we’re forced to play as a single-digit age kid while the protagonist’s friends are all clearly late teenagers, nearly twice the protag’s age. It’s so weird.

>>58604495
Damn, I'm sorry for you

>>58604502
>the SV protagonists are 9 years old at fucking most
9 year olds don't look like this >>58601772 nor are 150cm tall, dumbass

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>timeline discussion

>>58604810
I can't believe AZ having sex with Celesteela is the reason we have Let's Go Pee and BDSM

Pokemon will always be for kids
>but adults are the majority of the players
So what? They just don't grow out of the franchise.

>>58598762
Pokémon games are inherently about coming of age stories. It wouldn't be Pokémon if the protags are adults.

>>58603813
Gen 2 and 4 happen roughly at the same time. The Red Gyarados rampage is mentioned on the news in DP

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>>58604204
>>58604185
According to the leak Trevor is the youngest at 10yo, as young as Wally was, Shauna is 12, like Brendan, Ethan or Lucas, Calem and Serena are 14 like Hilbert, Hilda, Cheren and Bianca, and Tierno is 16 like Emma.
So yeah, this is what Calem, Serena and Shauna see every time they encounter the other two members of their "friend" group.

>>58604357
Lucasbros don't open this!

>>58598768
Japanese children play Fortnite on their smartphones just like every other kid and zoomer, they don't give a shit about ancient video game franchises. Pokemon is Star Wars level of millennial irrelevancy.

>>58604810
What does BC stand for?

>>58598762
Let me guess, your childhood and teenage years were terrible?

>>58606058
Before Chimecho duh

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>>58598762
Why do they make the pokegirls so sexy when they're kids? Checkmate.

>>58604312
And in the games calem and serena are taller than brendan an may. and the only npc models taller than them are the adults. Brendan and May are clearly presented within the game as taller than the child npcs but shorter than the teenagers which matches thier official ages. You can't seriously think calem is meant to be younger and shorter than brendan when the figure still uses calem's in-game proportions. and in-game their heads are the same size but calem is has taller proportions because he is taller.

>>58598762
Bump

>>58598762
bumo

>>58606196
Kill yourself, pedo.

>>58598762
No. There's plenty of other games you can play if you want to be some random tax paying adult.

>>58609114
Do you even know where you are buddy

>>58606450
Calem/Serena have never been modeled in the same game as Brendan/May, dumbass
And nobody said Calem is younger than Brendan, just shorter

>>58606121
yes

>>58609195
Everyone who buys things pays taxes buddy, you are also tax paying when you buy potions and shit

>>58610729
I'm pretty sure that Magikarp wasn't taxed

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>>58598762
"Back when the games were more abstract and used 2D chibi sprites, my imagination could fill in the details. However, since the 6th generation, with their increasingly detailed 3D models, I've wanted the option to choose a different avatar. Given that there's very little difference in having a child as the protagonist, they could offer the other 'class' trainers as selectable options from the start."

>>58612573
>Given that there's very little difference in having a child as the protagonist, they could offer the other 'class' trainers as selectable options from the start."
As mentioned already, Pokémon games are coming of age stories. Kids grow from being a kid at home to becoming the Champion f the region, meeting powerful Legendary pokémomn who test their souks and find them worthy. Doesn't really make as much sense for an adult to go out and have their coming of age story, unless they're mentally handicapped to the point of being a child in an adult's body. But hey, that's why the series aimed at kids keeps its protags around the kid/teen phase - it was good enough for the nip salarymen on the train in the Gameboy era, it's good enough for you in the modern age.

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>>58599959
this

>>58598775
/thread

>>58601810
>N
???
Why are we all pretending like he’s any different from any other villain? At best he just got more screen time.

>pokemon is a le coming of age story!
right, sure, randomly going from 10 year olds in the GB/GBA games to 18 year olds in XY and now down to a 9 year old protagonist in SV gives a whole lot of credibility to your bullshit rhetoric

The rivals in SV were all late teenagers, with the protagonist as the sole child, while attending an academy that’s explicitly stated to be attended by people of ALL ages, adults included.

>>58614066
>The rivals in SV were all late teenagers, with the protagonist as the sole child
Ok, and? That's still a coming of age story, including for the rivals. Arven has the whole thing going on with coping with loss and accepting that nothing will fix his shitty childhood now.

>>58598762
honestly whats up with calem and serena, did they just neet for like 8 years or what, doubt they were going to trainer school or something since you get tutorialed in game constantly

>>58614066
>18 year olds in XY and now down to a 9 year old protagonist in SV
Why are you making shit up, retardo?

>>58605934
This is what DSzoomers actually believe.

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I never had a problem with the characters age specially now that you get to give them whatever clothes you want, it would be as retarded as people that want adult protagonist in persona, if you want that just play SMT

>>58599532
Why not make it so you find three wild pokemon who escape in three different directions and the one you follow is your starter?

>>58613062
>Coming of age story
Just make it about having fun traveling around with pokemon.
Make it so your PC decides to stop being a wagie, grow some balls and become the very best in the region.

>>58614669
>missing the point
The VAST majority of adults in the pokémon world AREN'T hyper-talented pokémon savants, which is why they end up as adults in the pokémon world, owning a couple pokémon to keep themselves company in their lives while they work and live in the world. Castelia city's FULL of buildings, we can only enter a select few, however, because only a select few have people willing to battle all comers working in companies that ALLOW trainers to stroll in off the street and issue challenges. We only see what's relevant to us and we've seen enough to know this is something afforded to ALL kids when they reach a certain age, as part of their upbringings. Making an adult protagonist, who has no idea, clue or concept of pokémon battles laughably unrealistic compared to a kid who's been exposed to pokémon, but not actually educated about such things as gym challenges or trials of ability (because the point of the presentation is educate new kids about the games and universe, so would INVARIABLY end up handholding the unskippable tutorial).

>>58612573
This old fuck (and Whitney's whole shtick for that matter) is a direct lift from GS, back when Pokemon's worldbuilding per the Gameboy era was set in "real life but with Pokemon who have gone largely unknown and barely understood until Professor Oak's breakthroughs in research, and then Pokemon became hugely popularized thanks to Red's prodigal success story" before RS started revising it into "the Pokemon world", and now we have conflicts from 3000 years ago involving Pokemon, emphasizing they've always been right by humanity's side since the very beginning.

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>>58614704
Oak wasn't involved with the early research into pokémon, you dumb cunt. All he did was develop the first ELECTRONIC pokédex from the various pre-existing sources of information available to him. And yeah, the separation of real from Pokémon world allowed them to explore concepts and more importantly Pokémon designs keeping it strictly to "the real world but no-one bothered to study these incredibly amazing creatures until the 1800's because reasons for the game's existence in the first place".

>>58598762
Pokemon is a series for all ages/kids, so no

>>58614743
Fair enough on the clarifications, I'm well aware of Zukan lore but because of how absurd it is that no one actually gave a shit about Pokemon aside from a rare few back in those centuries-ago times, and they were never further iterated upon after those initial findings, it's important to recognize Oak's importance to GB Era worldbuilding because his sheer commitment to research basically inspired everyone else to start caring.
...Except everyone was still retards, Oak himself included, because no one ever thought to actually conduct research at night time, so species like Houndour and Murkrow, Kanto natives, went completely unknown until after Red's journey, and also everyone was an asshole to their Pokemon universally so species like Crobat were unheard of too.

OG lore was retarded no matter how you put it, there's no way someone wouldn't have conquered at least half a continent just by enslaving a few pokemon hundreds of years ago

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>>58598762
>he doesn't want to be a careless kid again, making friends and going on an adventure to grow up a little and forge unforgettable bonds
It's the ultimate cozy fantasy. What's the problem?

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>>58615773
Can't wait for SEA region to have another one of these.

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>>58615787
Yeah, it's why I really enjoyed SV despite its flaws. It really encapsulated the Stand By Me feeling they apparently always aimed to have.
Wonder if they just got lucky though, I'm not sure if Gen 10 will be able to compete. ZA's writing was pretty good as well so I'm carefully optimistic.

>>58615810
SV beta story was already pretty interesting and wild and we got a more refined version of it. WW planned story so far seems like another SM so I'm not really optimistic about it at all

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>>58598762
The best we got is Wes, and he's 17.

>>58615899
Yeah I was genuinely surprised that the story we got in SV was actually better than the beta concept. I don't think that's been the case for any other gen so far.
And yeah I know what you mean. But hey, considering how much they changed for SV and how early of an draft it is for gen 10, a lot could still change. We'll see.

>>58615787
The more I read King, the more I realize how mid his books are and carried by the adaptations

>>58598762
>PLEASE get adult protagonists
but then they wont be hot

>>58598931
the company stole his roundness

>>58598787
Shut up kid.

>>58598768
Miyamoto made games that remind him of himself.

>>58604066
Basically just to give Serena that frenchy outfit

>>58598787
They're most likely all at least over 18. Emma has a canonical age of 16 in XY which means she's 21 in ZA and the protags look to be around the same age as her

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>>58598762
Teenagers are too tall and need eat more food

>>58617796
Emma is a hobo, makes sense for her to be shorter despite being older

>>58599516
>The young protagonists wasn't even the main focus, they just wanted an RPG series set in the MonHun world to explore the setting and lore

You have this completely and brazenly ass backwards, Stories was initially trying to expand into the kid market and only aged itself up slightly for 2 and more for 3 because it was mostly bought by people who wanted more monhun. And stories setting and lore is entirely incompatible with mainline and just as retarded. Mon hun’s setting has always been vibes first

>Ethan
Kys

>>58598762
No. It hotter to slut them out if they’re kids

>>58618554
let me see up her shorts game freak

I hope they’re never adults so those weird fucks who ask for beard customization never get an excuse

>>58619600
Kill yourself pedo

>>58619607
I NEED To customize the beard on my 30 year old hag #realwoman #respectmypronouns