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A thread for the creation and discussion of fan fiction and other fanworks - anything that involves a story and/or reading. What've you been reading? What've you been writing? What would you like to see more of?

>Thread question:
How do you get in the mood to write, read, or think of ideas?

>Previous thread:
>>58651545
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>>58681104
I'm thinking about my WIP throughout the day quite often, so I'm always in the mood. I just don't always have the time or the brain power to do it. I find I'm at my best when writing in the morning (OP pic being oddly fitting) when I've just woken up. My mind's clearer and if I'm better at building on the organic discoveries I make while writing a scene.

I know Sheer Force doesn't cancel out the side effects of Outrage, but I feel like it'd be fun if it did (for an antagonist's Pokemon).
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>>58681104
>TQ
Most of the time it usually comes to me randomly. I could on the road driving to the grocery store and an idea for how i can finish a fight scene or continue a dialogue i've been stuck just pops into my head. That being said i haven't had as much time to write as before due to real life stuff i gotta handle.
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...So is he gonna share the AI fanart or
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>>58681104
>How do you get in the mood to write, read, or think of ideas?
If I knew how to do that my output would quadruple. Most of the time I'm actually getting a motivation to go write I'm at work, running errands, or spending time with family, none of which I can disengage from in a timely manner. Mostly I just try and capitalize on the times when I've already gotten my work done for the day and also have the headspace to write.

>>58681427
Wasn't intending to? It was nice of them and all that they were thinking of my shit, but it didn't feel like something that'd contribute much to the thread, and I get in a weird thought process where I really don't want AI to influence how I see my characters in my head.
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>>58681104
I've gone down a "looking at Pokemon villains but it's fanart/ai and now I feel some type of way" rabbit hole, yet I've just about read all of the fics for "x reader's" on ao3 and now I feel empty inside.. and I dont trust going through tumblr since I get unrelated shit because people will tag x reader when it's not even a fic.
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I read "When I Win the World Ends".

TWICE. This has never happened before. Immediately after finishing it, I started reading it again. I have no pretensions about the slop-ness of fanfiction as a medium, I feel a vague sense of disgust after finishing 99% of it. Actual works of literature like this are what makes it all worth it in the end. I've read Pokemon fanfic since I was barely able to read and this story is making me jealous I'll never be able to create anything even a tenth as good. My God, twenty years of reading Pokemon fanfiction and it was all worth it for this alone.
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Looking for a story where a human gets turned into a Pokemon and adopted into a Pokemon family. Any recs?
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>>58681679
Pokemon: Super Mystery Dungeon
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>>58681681
I was hoping for something better...
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>>58681684
I'm sorry anon, I'll let you know if I come across any.
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>>58681679
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13694545/1/This-Wasn-t-Expected
The "adopted into a Pokemon family" happens quite late in the story, and it might not be the flavor you're after, but it's the closest I can think of that I've read.
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>>58681687
Thank you
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>>58681646
Which Champion gets wanked the most and which one gets shat on the most there?
What did you like so much about it you gave it a second read?
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>>58681689
Thank you, I'll give this a look.
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>>58681646
>"When I Win the World Ends" is a fan-fiction novel by Bavitz, centered on a Pokémon tournament where the underdog underdog Aracely predicts that if she wins, the world will end. The story involves characters like the favorite Toril, Smogon-style battles, and themes of questioning faith and resilience. It's available to read in chapters on platforms like Tumblr and the Sufficient Velocity forum.
>Created Jul 26, 2024
>Status Complete
>Watchers 217
>Recent readers 0

Just shill your story like a normal person, bro and once again I remember that the spacebattles list wasn't a meme
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>>58681679
Go here and ask: >>58662080
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>>58680084
>but they get IP banned on sight.
Adding this as cannon to my fic.

didn't realize thread was dead
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>>58681104
Adhd and autism causes me to crave novel ideas, so I tend to be in an eternal state of 'unable to stop thinking of ideas'.
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>>58681761
That thread's a whole other thing
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>>58681732
Lmao thank you anon. At least the recurring thread bros don’t pull shit like this.
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>>58681104
I work full-time and I have tried to balance it out but I fail each time, Ideas pass like rain to the ground and every process that stucks does so for it is an obsession that keeps me sane, yet not enough so to actually write it out fully. I only have fragments, snippets of dialogue, vague colours of horror and cut of screams that refuse to come together in my head. I've also tried reading IMO chp 7 for the past month now and I feel bad not finishing and commenting on it, I don't know, I keep thinking I'll literally blank out again and start seeing shit. I know I should take my time, but even in calm I can't go very far.
I guess I'm stressed and burnt out for now.
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>>58682026
I remember somebody complimented my fic and got accused of being me. Now whenever I see somebody glazing my fic I wonder if somebody thinks I'm just shilling.
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>>58681732
Why would somebody secretly self-shill a fic way after it's completed?
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>>58682436
If the author posts something new in the near future, you'll have your reason.
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>>58682026
I'd prefer if people shilled as much as possible, not just for stuff they write but read and liked too. Don't even try to be humble or subtle about it.
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>>58682218
Just sleep it off you dramaqueen.
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>>58681732
Pff, I don't really care if you think I'm shilling the work. Just read it. It's very very good and I had to get it off my chest. The author is probably never going to write another Pokémon fanfic unfort. The blurb doesn't really do it justice either. It's more like a meta-commentary on the stagnant nature of the franchise and the "sports man who always wins" mythos wrapped in a tournament arc with a cult plotline and sapphic rivalry in the center. The battles were apparently pre-planned in Showdown and I loooove it. I haven't seen anyone else doing dramatisized turn-based Smogon battles. Probably not everyone's cup of tea, but the game mechanic-y nature is justified in-universe and actually important for the narrative structure too. If you've ever raged because you lost a battle to a crit para full para this fic will twist the knife in.
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>>58682816
>turn-based Smogon
Ah, so that's why past me never bookmarked the fic to read later despite hearing about it a few times.
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>>58682816
Please tell me there’s a stall battle.
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>>58682910
Unfortunately not a fully fleshed out one since it's based on Gen 9 with Megas (minus legendaries) and the "meta" in the story skews offense. But there's a battle with a lot of switching between two regenerator mons. And more than a few sequences of rapid switching for positioning (the audience hates it kek)
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Anyways here's some fanart of the protag of the story I found on tumblr. I love this airheaded lil cult psycho. I'm not going to shill anymore after this, I just wanted ppl to know about the fic. Thank you for listening and I hope you have as great a time reading it as I did.
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>>58682638
Well then, write fangs, yap about your stories. Tell me, why should I give your work any attention?
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>>58683125
That's fucking Gakumas Fujita Kotone.
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>>58683258
Well, it's fanart for a niche fanfic lol.
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>>58683267
Is that Cynthia? Why is she angery at the brown little girl?
And you didn't answer my post, you jerk. >>58681702
What are the relevant characters and who gets wanked and who gets shat upon?
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>>58683276
Cynthia is a miserable old woman in this since she never managed to win the World Champ title. Red gets jerked, but he's basically silent and portrayed as inhuman and weird. Both are minor characters. The two protags are OCs, rivals and depicted in that fanart.
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>>58683283
>anti-Cynthiaschizofic
And that's a skip.
Never trust a potential shaun.
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>>58683283
>Red gets jerked, but he's basically silent and portrayed as inhuman and weird
Wasn't it stated that he has some Ash elements in spacebattles?
>Nobody ever uses PokéSpe Red
Can't tell you if that's good for his fans or just sad
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>>58683207
I will attempt to be more shameless this time.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/59572648/chapters/151934926

In Mine Own is an adventure/mystery fic focused on character writing, an ongoing themed narrative, and the exploration of a world set after the events of the Pokemon video games, currently wrapping up its first arc, with more to come.

Beginning in Kalos, nine years after the events of X & Y, the story follows 15-year old Kuzey Ferris and his partner Crest the Charcadet as they return to their family's ancestral home following the disappearance of Kuzey's parents.

On his first day there he encounters two bizarre girls with identical faces and no memory of their pasts or each other, pursued by masked men aiming to capture them both. Sucked into their danger, aided by the Looker Bureau and a host of new and familiar faces, Kuzey must find a way to overcome his fears and protect these girls. And if he can, then he might manage to solve the mystery of his own parents' fates, and uncover the plans of the King of Fables, and what it means to create a world "In Mine Own."
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>>58683207
Final Fantasy fag here.

I've been writing lewd fiction for two decades. This story is my first attempt at writing something not lewd. Its an attempt to see if I can actually finish one of the many projects I start as it has a clear road map and ending. But beyond that it ultimately is a simple case of appeasing my autism for pokemon and Final Fantasy.

That is all to say that I have confidence in my ability to craft a good story. But is that enough to get your attention? If you really want to know why you should read it then the answer is that I have a huge ego and if you don't read it and tear it to shreds then I'm going to become an insufferable blight on the world of pokemon fanfiction. You have a chance to stop this tragedy before it begins by giving feedback. Otherwise I will flood the internet with melodrama.

https://archiveofourown.org/works/63406333
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>>58683207
Debating doing an ironic copypasta version of >>58681646 for PoPT but it might be too cringe. Yes this is Pofag
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>>58683978
i give u my permission
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>>58683823
Damn, there's just something magical and nostalgic about XI

https://youtu.be/yVYhcXmXSB0

https://youtu.be/pVZgBk7_jTM
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>>58683207
>>58684044
I read “Prince of Po Town,” TWICE. This has never happened before. Immediately after finishing it, I had to start reading it again. I have no illusions about fanfiction. Most of it is slop, garbage, cringe. But this? This felt like being thrown into Game of Thrones rewritten as a psychological torture program for an isekai protagonist. Every chapter made me whisper “They’re not gonna do Ian like THAT, are they?” They did. They absolutely did.

Twenty years of Pokémon fanfiction have not prepared me for this level of ritualistic humiliation. I’m not even sure this counts as a story anymore. It felt more like a spiritual trial, a government stress test. The faction politics of Ula’Ula Island, the Ultra Rift looming like the Eye of Sauron, the constant sense that things can and will get worse for Ian specifically.

My God. Two decades of fanfic, and it was all just training for this. And the worst part? I wrote it. I’m going to hell.
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>>58684164
>Distant Worlds
That exact youtube video, I know it well. Also

>Rhapsodies ending posted 10 years ago
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>>58684586
Ah yes the trauma of, let me check my notes here, 'having a hot princess from the past wanting to bear your children'.
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>>58684927
>That exact youtube video, I know it well
Based, that video unironically helped me in a time of need
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>>58683207
PMD with a 'literally me' absol main character. What more could you want?

https://archiveofourown.org/works/49048243/chapters/123742576
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>>58684948
I was going to play it at my wedding but I had to settle for just Main Theme and You are not Alone from 9. Still, getting my wife to walk down the aisle to this was totally worth it.

https://youtu.be/O8IBoFIFE-E?si=xzM67VjpgKPClEpe

It's also the song Sarah plays on her lute for Wol, though you'd never know it.
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>>58684932
Don’t forget getting to have amazing sex with Mina.
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>>58684979
Happy for you, anon.


Anyways, I know is still too soon but it kinda feels as if ZA flopped since even here it barely gets a mention unlike PLA
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>>58685528
>it kinda feels as if ZA flopped since even here it barely gets a mention unlike PLA
For me it's less that I dislike it and more that I can't really use anything from it because I'd already settled on a lot of things that contradict its events. I had Sycamore stay as the Kalos Professor, nobody ever brings up that one time all of Lumiose City almost got fucking eradicated, Clemont is still around and very active in the city's well-being, Emma kept her (much cuter) long hair, and Lysandre's fate is very different.
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>>58685528
LZA basically wiped its ass with story elements from XY to be fair. Kalos writers aren’t taking that lying down as IMOanon said above

There’s a way to do it, but having to re-jigger half the plot doesn’t make it easy. Which is why Sword/Shield don’t have shit either.
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>>58685528
All I've gained from ZA is that Kalos can be shit on more and probably deserves more flack than Galar.
>anti-homeless architecture
>debt collectors running the city
>ghettoes rebranded as "wild zones" over solving the problem
>attempted omnicide being completely forgiven
>AZ choosing to die rather than endure the humiliation of watching Kalos degrade any further
>Volo feeling so bad for Kalos' lack of culture that he donates to their museum
>their own champion being less popular than Leon
>Kalos' own iconic architecture attempting to glass the region
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>>58685682
It needs a better publicity agent than Galar?
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>>58685528
Ironically enough, ZA might be the game that gets me to actually write something for the first time in my life, I love it.
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how do I write codependency and psychological issues without making it seem too much
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>>58685709
By not making a big deal about it? The Dawnsert fic mentioned some threads ago involves literal brainwashing but it's never treated like a big deal. If they can get away with that, you can probably get away with unaddressed codependency issues.
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>>58685682
There's a lot of material IRL you can borrow to shit on Kalos some more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judgment_of_Paris_(wine)
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Any ideas on how to spruce up Johto, or at least make it more engaging?
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>>58686398
Go to Kanto immediately.
I think the Rocket remnants need a lot of reworking, Archer just does not feel like a proper main Villain.
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>>58685528
I've been wanting to play it, but money issues have kept me on a soft boycott for pokemon stuff. Still haven't bought the dlc for SV.
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>>58685709
Why are you writing it? Genuinely pursuing the exploration of a topic without worrying about how people might take it will produce a better work, but if you want to keep your audience in mind I would ask yourself why you're worried they might find it too much.
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>>58686398
Spruce up? Give it the Kanto treatment. Despite everything, modernization is going to hit the region. Its inevitable. It might fully embrace it like Kanto with its 'we don't need cultural sites' mentality. But most likely its culture will remain a strong presence even as its cities grow and technology dominates. It might instead become heavily 'tourist' centric with all the pros and cons that come with that.

>dumbass Unovan tourists keep trying to touch the Eeveelution sisters
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>>58685689
It needs gamefreak to be brained hard enough to forget Leon exists. I’m fucking tired of Leon.
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>>58686925
I'd pick Leon shilling everyday over Geeta shilling because she was just that bad
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>>58686947
I never played Gen 9 and don’t watch the anime. Is it actually like Leon’s situation?
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>>58686947
How about no Leon and no Geeta?
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>>58686766
Nail on the head for one of the things I'm focusing on with Johto. Younger generations pushing to modernize Johto to keep the region alive while the older generations dig in their heels in fear that the changes will alter the soul of Johto itself.
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>>58687056
Geeta didn't get shilled like Leon. She is just disliked for being brown. More seriously, she gets clowned on because she makes large boasts about not being able to hold back and then fails to live up to those boasts with really poor team building (and getting beat by three nfe mons vs her ace in the anime). She also seems to be disliked by most of the gym leaders.
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>>58686766
Alright, so I could see whatever governing body seeing the writing's on the wall as far as "progress" goes, but they need someone to get the traditional institutions on board. Insert a trainer, maybe they're a trainer that did stuff in another region, or maybe they're the child of a prominent modernization official and a traditional spouse, basically negotiating the gap (and has to beat each institution's top trainer to prove things). Meanwhile there's a group menacing important cultural sites (masquerading as Neo Team Rocket), trying to move the caretakers off. Maybe these sites are sacred for a reason (maybe something involving the Unown and other Legendaries).

Turns out the Team Rocket group is actually a rogue modernization official and their cronies (trying to control the sacred sites). This Neo Team Rocket uses Future Paradoxmons because "the FUTURE" (and I like when villains have them desu).
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>>58687917
continuing this line of thinking

Institutions/ Caretakers of Sacred Sites
>Sprout Tower Monks
They're respected but seen as weak. Secretly they look out for the Ruins of Alph and are actually the strongest group in Johto (maybe MC is from this faction and MC in unkowingly trying to unify the traditionalists against Neo Team Rocket/ the futurists)
>Ilex Forest Shrine Guardians
Caretakers of the Celebi shrine, weird anomalies started happening when the sacred site started getting messed with. Slowpoke Well became a cave to seal some Legendary that didn't belong?
>Goldenrod City
Where the futurists are based. They're not evil, just a member of theirs is. The Radio Tower was built on the ruins of an important site, perhaps hauntings/ shenanigans happen here. The monks that protected the Burnt Tower moved down here and hatched their plot which evolved into the futurist movement because humanity was irredeemable.
>Ecruteak City
Kimono sisters, the order of monks guarding the towers are here. Beef with the Burnt Tower monks happened a while ago, it's the cultural center of Johto.
>Olivine City Ranchers
They have special techniques for making the finest beef (think highly graded Wagyu Beef) but don't want it exported since they don't think the methods work with scale.
>Cianwood Sea People
Descendants of the people of ancient Sootopolis (maybe the other way around). They watch out for the Whirl Islands, very water based. Tourism exploded here when the new Safari Zone popped up, bringing unwanted attention to the Whirl Islands...
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>>58687917
>>58687951
continuing because bored
>Mt. Mortar
Group of warrior monks/ nature guardians took up roost here with the Karate King moving to Johto. They're elite, battle-hardened warriors (and might even have Aura Guardians with them cuz who knows). Sacred spot likely is some ancient aura staff or something. Maybe a Macguffin the attackers of Ecruteak's towers centuries before were after that was smuggled away.
>Mahogany Town Ninjas
The empty ninja hideout is well known, but a secret society of ninjas has survived in the shadows this whole time, sabotaging progressive movements from the shadows. They operate out of houses in the forest behind the Lake of Rage, basically having their own society. Might've even told old TR about their hideout to put the ninja clan out of the region's memory.
>Blackthorn Dragon Masters
Typical "muh dragonz" group, thinking they have special powers/techniques. Maybe MC gets a Dragon Type and gets lots of grief from this group. They're protecting something sacred to Dragon Pokemon, and it cannot be allowed to fall into the wrong hands. Of course when it does, the MC is crucial in stopping all of this.

Where's the Champion in all of this? Lyra and Red are too busy breeding a line of trainers that could conquer the world one day Idea for a cute traveling companion mismatch: MC (assuming male) is hostile with a young Clair look-alike (think niece/ sister/ cousin/ maybe even daughter even) early on. When MC catches a Dragon Type, NotClair gives MC shit for having a Dragon Type but not being a Blackthorn clan member. Of course they end up together because fuck you I like tsunderes.
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>>58685682
>attempted omnicide being completely forgiven
Did people actually forgive Lysandre? Didn't seem that way from the cutscenes i watched.

>Volo feeling so bad for Kalos' lack of culture that he donates to their museum

I really hope this is foreshadowing for his return. Would be a waste for Gamefreak to never use him ever again.

>their own champion being less popular than Leon
I'm also hoping that ansha has some relation to Diantha as well. She doesn't have to be her daughter, i will accept Ansha being a kid version of her. Because Diantha deserved better than what she got.
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>>58688024
>Did people actually forgive Lysandre?
He's not locked away, punished in any real shape or form, or even in exile under a new identity, so the only conclusion is he's been forgiven.
At least the scientists getting off scot-free makes sense since they have an inherent value. What worth does Lysandre have that can't be confiscated? His friendship with Sycamore and Diantha? Yet another reason to shit on Kalos. Maybe this is why Diantha's gone dark, she's avoiding the bad PR for forgiving a man who tried to kill every single one of her citizens.
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>>58688024
>Did people actually forgive Lysandre? Didn't seem that way from the cutscenes i watched.
No one walks up and says "We forgive you"
Emma actually is looking for him nearly the whole game because she thinks he's up to something bad, but stops when she realizes he's just helping Zygarde to protect the city
Griselle and Grisham also blame him for ruining their lives lmao
>>58688044
Bro actually thinks being forced to live 3000 years isn't a punishment
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>>58688044
>this is why Diantha's gone dark
You didn't even play the game, she hasn't gone dark at all.
She literally has a new movie coming out soon that people are excited for.
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>>58688054
>tfw the government forces me to live for 3000 years off the taxpayer's dollar with the freedom to commit any crime I want, be it legal or ethical
PLEASE don't do this to me PLEASE I would be SO BORED especially if I have proven to have a desire to destroy the entire world PLEASE don't give me the time to make a comeback and do it for real PELASEEPALSEPLASPEL
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>>58688060
Oh okay, you're just shitposting.
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>>58688059
She's using her acting carreer to distract from the fact she's their champion who just pardoned an attempted omnicide because the guy was her friend, obviously.
>>58688065
Immortality is not a punishment if you have a motivation to compel you along it. Especially for someone who doesn't value friends and family like Lysandre.
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>>58688069
She didn't "pardon" anything, she's not the Champion, stop using the word omnicide when you don't even know what it means, and they weren't even that close.
Brother the whole point is that Lysandre changes his perspective on things, one of the last bits of dialogue is him remarking that being able to meet people in life is a gift
Did the whole thing where they made him a foil to AZ just go over your head?
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>>58688091
Is this lite-RP from an in-universe perspective or is Diantha your waifu?
Lysandre is proven to have a close friendship with Sycamore and Diantha. He's in bed with their E4 and the rest of the upper class. There's no justification for his pardon, and especially not for him walking the streets.
>Did the whole thing where they made him a foil to AZ just go over your head?
Did the whole thing where he attempted omnicide go over your head?
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Anon, you're being stupid thinking this is some kind of political ploy when Z-A is extremely clear that Lysandre was saved by Zygarde to be its representative. Whether he's punished or not has been taken out of human hands, Zygarde is effectively his parole officer.
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>>58688117
>Z-A is extremely clear that Lysandre was saved by Zygarde to be its representative
That's not what happened at all.
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>>58688106
No I'm being literal.
Diantha stopped being the Champion at the end of XY, she wouldn't have any authority to pardon someone, if you assume that the Leagues have governmental and lawful authority over their regions to begin with.
He speaks to Diantha like 1 or 2 times, and it's not a particularly normal conversation.
One member of the Elite Four was a member of Team Flare, and she's literally vanished from the public eye by the time of ZA.
No one pardoned him, he's a hobo whose presence in Lumiose the majority of people are ignorant of, he appears before a little over a dozen people in ZA and not one of them is some kind of legal authority, even Emma is just a private detective.
He specifically was not trying to commit omnicide, his whole argument was "There are too many people for the amount of resources we have. People suck and will fight over such resources, creating tools of death and destruction like this ultimate weapon made 3000 years ago. We must decrease the total number of people and maintain a strict "in-club" in order to have peace."
>>58688119
It literally is, Lysandre remarks that he was saved in order to balance out his actions and feelings.
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>>58688129
>Diantha stopped being the Champion at the end of XY,
That happens after Lysandre is caught. Classy how she squeezed that one in just before being dethroned.
>He speaks to Diantha like 1 or 2 times
That we see.
>No one pardoned him
He's walking the very streets he tried to omnicide.
>He specifically was not trying to commit omnicide
He was, he even admits it towards the end.
>It literally is, Lysandre remarks that he was saved in order to balance out his actions and feelings.
"Guys it's cool, a god said you should forgive me and that I'm actually the messiah."
He's another Cyrus and Ghetsis, but because he's friends with the elites he walks the streets. Stay classy, Kalos.
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>>58687985
>Lyra
Red's seed is too precious to be wasted on such a weakling. He will impregnate Nemona and Jacinthe to create a line of brown supersoldiers.
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Huh, do you guys care about villains plots now? They're fucking retarded, the people behind those plans too, Pokémon villains are trash and shouldn't be used at all in a fanfic or their goals and personalities should be changed
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>>58688157
>That happens after Lysandre is caught. Classy how she squeezed that one in just before being dethroned.
Okay, so just your fanfiction then.
>That we see.
So more of your fanficton.
>He's walking the very streets he tried to omnicide.
He's a hobo man, who is going out of his way to keep a low profile, he is not going around talking to normal people so that they can yell out loud "WE FORGIVE YOU LYSANDRE"
>He was, he even admits it towards the end.
No, he just confirms what I said.
>"Guys it's cool, a god said you should forgive me and that I'm actually the messiah."
That's just more fanfiction dude, nowhere does the game say he's some kind of messiah, he's specifically Zygarde's errand boy.

My man if you're not going to engage with me seriously, just don't reply lmao
I get it, you didn't like ZA, but lying about the plot to try and keep up some weird narrative is just odd behavior.
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What if Archie and Maxie became jannies for fugg?
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>>58688177
>your fanfiction
My man it's canon that Team Flare is defeated before becoming champion and that Lysandre has had conversations with people off camera.
I get it, you think Gamefreak writers are infallible for some reason, but lying about canon to try and cover up their swiss cheese narrative is just odd behavior.
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>>58688198
Yes, they're defeated, but nowhere does Diantha come out and say "Pardon Team Flare please"
That doesn't happen, that's why I said it's your fanfiction.
I mean dude, we know for a fact that a good number of Team Flare's members were taken into custody, no one gave them some kind of pardon.
You're inventing things to get mad about.
Also, claiming that I think Gamefreak writes are infallible is mindboggling, where have I said that? Lysandre and Team Flare were bottom of the barrel trash in XY, ZA just made them actually interesting for once.
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>>58688214
She doesn't announce his arrest either, and in the next game we see him walking free. Checkmate.
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>>58688221
All that means is that he wasn't arrested, not that he was pardoned.
These two things are not the same.
Please respond to me seriously instead of trying to get a "gotcha" on me.
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>>58688231
Curious how a few grunts get taken but the close friends of the Kalos upper class gets off free. Hmm yes, quite.
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>>58688232
The hitler youth is also running around scott free but to be fair they make a mean cup of coffee so I can see why they'd be forgiven
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>>58688232
And now you loop around to repeating yourself, without actually engaging with me.
I will not repeat myself, the only close friend of Lysandre's that we were made aware of is Sycamore. There is no evidence that Lysandre had a close friend in the "upper class" who could advocate for some imaginary pardon for his actions. Malva is not an argument, as she has left the public eye, clearly not enjoying her previous positions.
This will just continue on, until I get tired of it and leave the conversation, at which time you will present yourself as having beaten me in the argument, despite not actually doing so.
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>>58688236
They are not running around scott free, they are literally stated to be social pariahs that are not treated well by the public who are aware of their previous association.
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>>58688258
Yeah but they're not behind bars for being part of an organization that tired to end the world. And they keep hanging around the genocide terrorist Cafe like retards
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>>58688252
Well, that's your fanfiction. The fact of the matter is that a man entrenched in the upper class is walking free after having orchestrated illegal raids, defacement of natural monuments, and attempted omnicide. There's no excusing this, and even the "he's a messiah who god says must walk free" excuse only goes far enough to protect him alone and not any other member of Team Flare.
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>>58688268
They were kids, anon.
That's the whole point, they were made pariahs because of the actions of their parents and elders.
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>>58688069
Whats the point of even becoming champion if you can't pardon your friends when they try to kill everybody? Power belongs to the strong. Skill issue.
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>>58688274
What are you even talking about? What is fanfiction in stating that Sycamore was close friends with Lysandre, and that XY didn't give us a list of other close friends of his? What is fanficton in stating that Malva has left the public eye? You're the one creating this idea that Lysandre was going around rubbing elbows with the elite to get them to somehow pardon him, this is never established in any capacity.
People were aware of Team Flare, people looked up to and respected Lysandre, but that was because he had been a philanthropist before his misanthropic episode as a genocidal maniac, they weren't singing his praises after the fact. In ZA we can clearly see that Lysandre is not in a position of power and honor.
And again this "messiah" thing, what are you talking about? He's Zygarde's errand boy during the events of ZA, no one is worshipping him.
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>>58688298
Explains Lysandre's sudden tune change. Corruption bad and makes the world ugly, but seeing that corruption save his life made it all wonderful again.
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Dudes have I just been getting baited this whole time?
I'm sitting here trying to parse anon's position but I legitimately cannot conceive of a legitimate reason for the stuff he's saying.
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>>58688324
Yes. I know little about ZA but I saw your question while scrolling through the index and decided to jump in for a laugh.
Although now I'm a bit concerned because now I know Lysandre's pardon is because he claims to be the emissary of a god. What the fuck lol?
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>>58688354
Alright this one got a legit laugh outta me anon, good job.
I'm gonna hop off here, I'm not really having fun at this point, and it's gonna get on the nerves of other anons if we keep going, it probably already has.
Sorry dudes, didn't mean to shit up the thread so bad.
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(You) reincarnate into Lysandre's body after the ultimate weapon grants him immortality. Zygarde saves you but senses Faller bullshit and fucks off. You have none of Lysandre's memories, no backing from a Legendary this time around, and 5 years until Ange levels Lumiose. What do (You) do differently?
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>>58688424
Zygarde is the key to stopping Ange so you've fucked the hypothetical up from step one. If it doesn't get involved, there's no stopping it.
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>>58688424
If I have my own memories, then I would get to Lumiose immediately and let AZ know that having Mega Floette stop Ange won't work if Ange is allowed to get too much mega power
That's the reason it goes rogue at the end, just too much energy that Floette couldn't properly control.
Otherwise we're fucked my man, Zygarde is the only out.
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>>58688435
>>58688441
What if you went up to sky pillar and contacted Fugg or called on the Champions from other regions?
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>>58688424
To absolve myself of any responsibility I'll warn AZ like >>58688441 but otherwise I'm bailing to another region.
If Zygarde really cares he'll find someone else. If he doesn't care then there's no sense sticking around, better to go elsewhere and let the champions or some other legendary clean up the mess.
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>>58688171
Girls please there is enough red cum for all of us.
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>>58688529
Blue's hogging all of it and not leaving any for the rest of the class....
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>>58688173
Instructions unclear in my fic Cyrus is happily chilling in the distortion world, Giovanni has waited out the statute of limitations in hiding, Archie and Maxie have made up and cucked that one Magma admin chick, Ghestis is the ruler of the world in his coma dream, Lusamine has retired to spoil her grandkids, Rose is getting his vacation in rich people jail, the Sada bot just knocked up the Turo bot through sheer unga bunga energy (ancient infinity energy). The only villain that is irredeemable is left flipper on red map that useless fucking bastard.
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>>58688424
Warn people about it and then fuck off. If Hitler rose from the dead and said 'this shit is going to kill everybody' then people are going to at least investigate. Even if they arrest me I don't give a shit. I'm immortal I can outlive their life sentence. But I'm built different so they won't catch me.
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>>58688024
To think that my simple question could lead to such an argument. I didn't even mean to start this, i was genuinely asking.
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>>58681689
This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for, thank you. If you know anything else like this let me know.
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>>58685682
>anti-homeless architecture
Sorry but is that truly a bad thing?
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>>58689035
In the pokemon world, maybe. I bet Lysandre asked Diantha to pass a bill for it
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>>58689035
It means that homeless are enough of a problem that they needed to invest in such
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>>58689035
It's out of place in a world that basically has nearly every need fulfilled.
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>>58689040
Funny because he ended up as a hobo
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>>58689110
it’s pottery
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>>58689062
To be fair most trainers are homeless kids and lumiose is a big city.
Instead of sleeping in the park they should camp outside city borders or rent a room.
Or own a house i guess.
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>>58689062
they are for the Pokemon
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>>58689195
Wild zones are our strength.
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>>58689035
It implies the leadership isn't working and the city would rather hide the rot than address it.
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>>58689226
what did they mean by this?
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>>58689327
Weren't Pokémon already doing construction work as far back as Gen 1.
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>>58689398
That's probably considered a sort of unpaid labor unfit for humans.
>but human construction workers are there too
they're the trainers, and they train their dumbass construction-stock pokemon by example.
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>>58689398
nah that was slavery
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>>58689445
>unpaid labor unfit for humans.
Me when I send my Machoke into the Chernobyl Exclusion Zone to scavenge for junk to resell.
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>>58689398
Construction workers are scum who get around Pokemon labor laws by larping as fightfags
>why no officer Jenny, my team of machop laboring under the hot sun all day aren't slaves, they're honing their muscles
Since fightfags (and let's face it, their pokemon too) are already prone to extremely retarded forms of training the law tends to looks the other way.
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>While Mega Lucario can concentrate its huge aura into a destructive force, Mega Lucario Z surrounds its entire body with its aura, cloaking itself to increase its defense, flexibility, and agility. Mega Lucario Z can use its aura in a variety of different ways, such as stretching the aura thin into a shield or channeling it into its blows by concentrating the aura into specific parts of its body, such as its legs or fists.

Cultivation is canon btw.
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>>58690004
Wait, this shit sounds like Ash's aura boosted Lucario
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>>58690004
Barely qualified to be in the semiquasi halfstep demipsuedo qi condensation realm.
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>>58690023
Using Swords Dance once allows Lucario to transcend into the Immortal Ascension realm thoughever
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>>58690004
>such as stretching the aura thin into a shield or channeling it into its blows by concentrating the aura into specific parts of its body, such as its legs or fists.
Huh, so an aurafag using aura bullets could work too? Neat
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Q89EpDlBILo

>Ash clears Homelander
What does this mean for powerscaling?
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>>58690065
Wrong thread, sis
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>>58690056
>my SI/OC's Lucario(male(masculine)) after a single Gravity Training session(he's on a 5 flintstone gummy's a day diet so he's packed full of nutrition)
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>>58690056
Aura sphere is already just one big Aura bullet.
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oh my arceus
hold your rapidash
meowth's out of the bag
it's a growlithe eat growlithe world out there
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>>58690296
Bouffalant crap is a favorite mine.
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>>58690318
consider tauroshit
we're still trying to figure out what it is he hit but it was certainly something
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>>58690296
>oh my arceus
this ticks me off because Arceus is supposed to be unknown to almost everyone
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>>58690377
>What the distortion
>Giratina's lettuce
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>>58690377
This is why I go with 'by Mew the Mother'. Also a big fan of Lugia's Bollocks. Thats not a pun though, just feels sailor like.
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>Writing a totally normal character interaction with the love interest
>Suddenly the writing gets horny
Damn it
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>>58690941
>have a niche fetish that keeps me from getting horny unless I write specifically that
Score another point for autism, all it cost me was my ability to have normal sex.
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>>58690955
>have a niche fetish
>write specifically that, but SFW
I may be stupid
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>>58689496
Pokémon would consider horribly dangerous activities like that training and your machoke will probably discover a new hulk side evolution doing it.
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>>58689496
Just send a Snorlax with Immunity
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>>58691110
Machulk, a roided out green Machamp with its arm pairs fused together, and mysteriously wearing a pair of purple pants it scavenged.
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It may be weird to ask, but are you guys doing alright?
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>>58691147
I mean that unrelated to the discussion at hand.
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>>58691059
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>>58691147
My wife is having health issues, we're struggling financially, had to cut Thanksgiving vacation short due to weather, I have lost all motivation to write, and the porn game I tried to download the other day was too big for my current computer space to handle.

All things considered I'd say I'm currently in the top three best spots in my life so far.
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>>58689780
Government too scared to add the "trainer must be training with their pokemon" clause to the law
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>>58690222
HE round too
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>>58691209
I hope you weather through it all anon, I can only wish you the best.
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>>58691059
My fetish is a loving relationship that goes beyond just sex.
WHICH IS WHY I'LL WRITE MISSIONARY! YOU CAN'T STOP ME!
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>>58691209
You should be focusing on filling sacks instead of draining yours to skyrim mods
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>>58690377
Which legendaries/mythicals should be extremely unknown in canon? Giratina, Arceus, Deoxys? Maybe Celebi and Lugia?
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>>58691147
Things are mostly okay. Wife and I are doing well, coffee prices dipped a little so we were able to lower the price at the shop for the holiday season. Got some looming car trouble and the battery on my phone's expanding so those are some expenses I've got to consider, but on the other hand five years ago I was about to lose my home, single, and depressively drinking, so I'm very grateful for where I am now.

>>58691209
I'm sorry things are rough for you right now, anon. I'm rooting for you
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>>58691364
Genesect, because it's partially man made and in secret.
Marshadow, because it hides in peoples shadows all the time and exhibits traits that would lead people to mistaken it for other small fighting type pokemon.
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>>58691147
it could be worse
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>>58691147
Got noticeably worse between me starting to write about my day and me hitting send. Work sucks and at least part of it is my fault,
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>>58691329
I fail to see how cumming in somebody's balls will help.
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>>58691364
Phione. Maybe the four cursed objects since people wouldn't know they were actually pokemon.



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