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Continuing from last thread >>10769616
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>>10806414
I opened my Panasonic Tau and i am doing some cleaning, but what is this?
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>>10806416
The flyback transformer.
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gex looks the best on crt because he is all about that crt tv traveling
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>>10806416
Lick it and see what happens.
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I noticed there is a bit of distortion in the uppet top og the picture, the service menu of my Panasonic Tau is very limited.
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>>10806504
Strongly recommend you carefully finish dusting, button it back up, close the service menu, and go back to the classroom. You don't have to know everything about everything to start dicking around with a spare TV, but you aren't ready to fuck up your one and only.
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>>10806416
>>10806504
you should try adjust focus and see if you cant get te image a little sharper
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>>10806584
I did, cleaned up the TV and put it back on.
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Soul vs soulless?
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>>10806945
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>>10806945
What a clean lil JVC.
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>>10806945
Really nice.
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even the local pickup only stuff is over $500 now...
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>>10807446
Shoulda bought when you started seeing these threads and normie linus tech tips started hyping up CRTs. You KNEW everyone was gonna jump on that shit.
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>>10807446
Dann. Glad I kept my 1994 RCA Colortrak Plus.
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>>10807446
I threw away enough shitty CRTs back in the 00s that I could've retired now if I just stored them. It's BTC all over again.
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How much would this setup cost today?
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personally I like the landfill CRTs with the built-in VGA cable cut off for the 5 cents of copper
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>>10807471
>cool tv
>Godcube with gb player and wavebird
>not a fat PS2
>shitty controller
>unknown SNES
>cool lil NES
>two rarer Nintendo Shitty Fours
>some boxed games

Cute little setup I like it.
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>>10807472
You should definitely avoid those mass resellers on ebay since they literally are just grabbing CRTs out of landfills and selling them as is. Shit's been outside for 15+ years. I'd rather buy something from a thrift shop where it's probably just been sitting in grandma's attic since the 90s.
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>>10806416
The heart of the CRT
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dumb question but anyone know if the service menus for the PVMs have multiple save states?
i find myself adjusting the settings between two different states over and over again. i know i could just write my settings down but i still have to punch all that shit in. the manual has not just a write function but also a read function, where i can read back the settings currently sitting in ROM. i assume its just reverting to your own settings without power cycling the unit but i want to make sure.
the model is a PVM-14M2E
heres the manual on the service settings page. though its a bit poorly translated.
https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1507579/Sony-Trinitron-Pvm-14m2u.html?page=16#manual
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>>10808115
I’m pretty sure most tvs have different stored settings per every AV channel
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>>10808419
This looks cool… in menus
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>>10806948
why does this look like an lcd?
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>>10808812
It doesn’t, it’s just a 31khz screen by the looks of it with VGA
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>>10806414
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>>10806948
31khz CRTs always look objectively bad displaying 240p content. The only way to make it worse is to be flat 31khz. Fucking gross man.
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>>10808884
>silver
>curved
>mask with rounded corners
what the fuck were they thinking
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>>10808929
>what the fuck were they thinking
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>>10808929
"we'll sell this cheap slop in the western market, they'll buy any old shit over there"
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>>10809105
Battle station
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>>10808887
i think they look good for early games with simple, blocky looking sprites. atari and arcade and the like
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>>10809112
Your speaker covers are upside down.
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Is there any gracious way to remove the black cover/the buttons without taking apart the whole TV just to get to the front? I'm tired of my TV being cursed to keep going down its channels while it's plugged in.
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>>10806945
>>10806948
Based. trinitrons always look this bad compared to a quality shadow mask
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>>10809160
just get something like a really small screwdriver or needle and stick it above the button and use leverage to force it back down.
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>>10809218
The button isn't even really stuck, it works but there will be random presses (every few minutes, sometimes a few in quick succession one after another) or whatever the TV's interpreting it as. It doesn't feel much different to press than the others. I'd rather just somehow disable the button but I might try something with a needle, not much to lose.
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>>10809160
on most tvs it's either a separate board or the buttons are on the main board, but either way you can get at it by taking the back off and sliding the board out. there might be screws or clips or whatever holding the board in place
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>>10809134
Took them apart and re-wired them to a new amp. Lol. It can get super loud.
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Every half decent unit in the UK is expensive as balls, I really missed the boat.
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I got one of the last lines of Toshiba CRTs made in the mid 2000s. It's a pretty decent sized screen, probably 32' ish. I got it because my neighbor at the time was gonna throw it out and knew my buddy used CRTs for Melee, so he dropped it off with me.
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>Memorex CRT TV
What are our thoughts boys? About to receive one for free from a family friend
Probably going to get a pic later
Hit or miss type of brand? Beggars can't be choosers in this environment and nothing beats free
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>go looking on Craigslist
>see something I want
>send an e-mail to the seller
>send mail back and forth for a few days
>get an e-mail saying he suddenly has a bad back and can't do anything for a few days
>week and a half passes
>no reply
>get suspicious, send follow up e-mail
>still no reply
I guess something I did or said made him decide not to sell the thing to me.
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I'm planning on selling a 27 Sharp at some point. I can't get the geometry quite right but it has component so looks good on Wii or PS2.

Just too heavy for me, it's in storage at the moment. I'm on the lookout for smaller tv's that have NTSC support as I'm in a Pal country. Though I have a nice little Kambrook rebranded Pal only Goldstar for Genesis, NES and Master System. Otherwise I have to play NTSC on my larger 29.

My friend knew someone and just picked up 3 Trinitrons in a swap. They're around for sure but these days it's more about having connections getting good TV's. On Facebook market a few Mitsubishi's have been cropping up lately.
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>>10810108
Sorry to hear that. You might have to look on FB market with a wider radius or out of your area. Sometimes people give TV's away that are an hour or so drive away. It depends if you think the tv is worth getting long distance, since locally often people will charge for TV's.
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>>10806504
>I noticed there is a bit of distortion in the uppet top og the picture
Live with it, thats how flat glass CRTs roll.
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>>10808884
99% certain this same panasonic is what i have rotting under my desk as i type.
>>10810101
IIRC they were the manufacturers behind the disney CRTs, in which case while not the nicest aren't completely horrible from what I remember. Although if they are the same, the inputs are a bit limited (RCA and Coax.)
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>>10810129
>I'm on the lookout for smaller tv's that have NTSC support as I'm in a Pal country.
I was in the same boat, wanted a 21" but for some reason smaller TVs with both NTSC support and SCART input are very rare over here.
Picked a nice looking Samsung thinking this is it but turns out there's no NTSC support, though otherwise it's very nice. The picture is soft enough that I don't really need composite from all the consoles that support RGB, but I'd really want to play my famicom on it as well.
Now looking at buying a multi-system VCR, will something like this help or this only works for tapes?
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>>>/wsg/5478581
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>>10811531
CRTless cope
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>>10811531
Those kids are making my hoard more expensive, thanks.
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>>10809112
does that controller work well? every other repro n64 controller is complete garbage but ive heard this one is "ok". How does it compare to oem?
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asked my boss if i can have the crt (27") hanging in the staff lounge. still works, hasnt been used in like 15 years.

now i think im crazy though because i already have a 21 inch that works fine...but its flat screen and the one at work is curved.
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>>10811627
If you got space for more it's not crazy. They don't last forever.
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Probably retarded question coming through:
My CRT's a bit messy with vertical size and I often have to do adjustments regardless because of PAL/NTSC shenanigans. Does making vertical size bigger just move the scanlines apart a bit more or what is going on? Does it mess with the lines' alignment with the image or with the quality in any other way?
Not that I've really noticed any problems so far, but I got curious.
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>>10812068
>Does making vertical size bigger just move the scanlines apart
That's what it does
>Does it mess with the lines' alignment with the image
What? The lines are the image

What you should do is bust out measuring tape and 240p suite, open monoscope pattern and adjust the size until the red square is actually perfectly square, that's the correct aspect ration.
As for going back and forth between NTSC/PAL I just recommend to never play the PAL versions at all, unless you're playing Amiga or some shit
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>>10809105
i'm so accustomed to seeing Dreamcast VGA setups it feels weird to see it hooked up to TVs
>>10809112
bnuuy
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>>10811428
Finding a multiregion VHS player in the wild is like finding the holy grail.
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>>10812415
Maybe in your region, player in the pic is being sold near me for like $5, if it actually works for my purpose I'll go buy it instantly
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>>10806414
I want to emulate 80/90s era games with a more native look on my PC.
Should I get a $100 13" 1993 Sony Trinitron about 1 1/2 hours away or should I hunt for a CRT monitor instead?
I'm thinking a monitor would be a better call because the T.V. is going to require conversion fuckery to get my P.C. to play on it, but, it is a Trinitron.

Forgive me, I'm fucking retarded.
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>>10812952
>13"
>100 dollars
that's definitely some scam level shit unless it's super cool.
CRT monitors are good but any one that's not a trinitron is dim as fuck and you'll need to put your window blinds down for it to be acceptable
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Should I get this one for around 24 bucks
Would it be good for snes and ps2?
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>>10813278
More pics of how destroyed it is
It works tho.
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>>10813282
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>>10813012
That's just because people don't set the gamma properly. You're supposed to calibrate it in the operating system. You can do this for Windows and Mac.
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Funny line in Illusion of Gaia for guy interested in Tradition Chinese Medicine and Qi Gong
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>>10813378
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>>10812952
>on my PC
Connecting a modern PC to a CRT with correct resolution is a monumental pain in the ass and would only work properly if you get a TV with component/RGB. For the price of all the cables and converters that allow you to do that you could get a Wii
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>>10813278
>>10813282
>>10813286
It's tiny, beat up and likely RF only, what makes you think it's worth anything
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>>10813548
Looks cool
Can be cleaned
Tiny is good.
But indeed it is RF only. Can I convert av to RF somehow
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>>10813584
Get an old VCR.
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>>10813592
How would a vcr help
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>>10813607
to convert AV to RF, retard
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>>10813607
He's saying that a workaround is running a VCR through to it as a converter
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>>10813012
>>10813539
I think I'm just going to get a VGA monitor and fiddle with Nvidia/Monitor settings to get the look
Will probably be a good idea for PC games anyways

If that fails, or I think I want a T.V. too, I'll take your advice and get a Wii as an emulation machine

Thanks for the advice
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>>10813615
>>10813617
Thanks sorry for my ignorance
I might get it since it looks nice and is cheap. They had other newer models but I kinda liked that one. Dunno. Seehow.
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>>10813592
The idea of a tiny TV sitting on top of a giant VCR seems so funny to me.

>>10813632 If you don't plan to actually play tapes you can find an RF modulator, they're much smaller.
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>>10812427
Proof or Liar!
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i got one of those cheap HDMI to component converters to watch anime from my PC on my CRT TV, but im getting pretty heavy color banding.
is this just down to my TV not being able to display as many colors as a modern LCD display or is this because of the cheap converter? would going with an old GPU give me better results?
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>>10815664
>is this just down to my TV not being able to display as many colors as a modern LCD
Anon, your CRT is analog, it's definitely the converter.
Try limited HDMI range but likely you need a different converter.
>would going with an old GPU give me better results?
The one with actual VGA port paired with analog to analog converter would be your best bet on having something that works, the DACs in china devices are notoriously shit.

For a bulletproof method that doesn't involve trying out random crap from amazon and torturing your PC into doing ancient resolutions is burning your anime to DVD. Takes a while but works 100% of the time and looks good, that's what I do despite having a working PC to component setup, it's a lot less janky.
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>>10815684
i tried DVD players back then but i had some retarded issues where three different dvd players were not able to properly do letterboxing despite the content being the correct resolution and all.
so far, the converter has been the best solution and is the least amount of work once its setup.

i know there is a list with a bunch of AMD GPUs floating around that support analog DVI or something. will need to get my hand on that again
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>>10815691
>dvd players were not able to properly do letterboxing
Your TV is supposed to do letterboxing, you will lose detail otherwise. Why are you watching 16:9 stuff on CRT anyway?
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>>10807471
I'd give you $50 and that's the best I can do.
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>>10815664
>>10815684
>>10815691
>>10815716
Consider using a ps3 softmodded with movian for you old TV/anime needs. Will play everything before H.265.
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>>10811428
Turns out mister can output NTSC games as PAL60 over composite and it looks really good.
Maybe I can keep this TV and emulate everything.
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>>10816193
>NTSC games as PAL60

Why would you want that? For when your TV can't deal with NTSC?
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>>10816218
>For when your TV can't deal with NTSC?
Exactly that
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>>10816218
NTSC looks like complete shit.
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>>10816193
Isnt the Mister Composite output kinda shitty?
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>>10816382
What the fuck? It's the opposite.
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>>10816409
I'm assuming he is referring to color which is the only difference between PAL60 and NTSC.
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>>10816409
PAL has perfect color, and is extreamly sharp, whilst NTSC is blurry rainbow vomit.
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>>10816414
>>10816418
Is that for SNES only?
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I'm confused on what's the difference between the two SCART inputs on my Sony, if it matters which one I'm using with my consoles, as well as which one is which on the back.
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>sell good condition PVM for bargain 'i'm-sick-of-looking-at-it' price
>too big to ship safely so local only
>have had 8 people want to buy it then bail at the last moment
at this point i would rather smash this thing with a fucking hammer and throw it in the dumpster than play these silly little games with people for another two weeks. it really sucks not living in a major metropolitan area. i thought the CRT market was chock full of retards with too much money?
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>>10807446
Is the market like this now? I see the small desireable CRTs and they get snatched up pretty much in hours of posting, but back in 2020/2021 the same model would sit on local listings for like 2-3 weeks basically.
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>>10816524
These ones specifically, the 7-13 inch Sony ones, those are rape level in terms of price
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>>10816534
Yea they p much are. Anything larger than 20 inch is basically still ewaste, at least in my area.

I'm still kicking myself for not getting the 2 Commodore 1084's I had a chance to get back in 2017 lol.
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>>10816534
>>10816524
The real redpill is understanding that the bigger sets are the best. No matter how greedy the seller is, he'll be forced to mark it down eventually because no one will pay hundreds of dollars to lift a 150 pound TV from some boomer's basement.
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>>10810101
Yea they're ok. Most offbrand CRTs are just manufactured by an OEM. As long as it has composite input, it'll be fine.
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>>10816546
I still see them at the local recyclers. A bunch of large CRTs that nobody cares to post on classifieds and just get thrown out. But I think a decent chunk of the desirable ones get siphoned off this way because of lack of knowledge or in this anons case
>>10816518
not wanting to deal with people on FB marketplace.
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>>10816540
24-27inch is the most you need anyhow when it comes to displays.
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>>10816518
>too big to ship safely
nothing is impossible.
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>>10816546
I got my 32 inch Trinitron a few years back and it was 20 bucks, works great. Though, I'm a big guy so I can handle it fine even going upstairs... Maybe not up 20 stories, but whatevs yo
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>>10816540
The little one's are the best, but everyone knows it so they get snatched up or marked up like 500%

I used to have a plain old Magnavox 13" with DVD made in 06/07, but I tossed it immediately when the old flat screen was passed onto me in the early 2010s
I never would have guessed holding onto it would have been a better choice, but I was a teenager
>>10816546
That's why I have my eyes on a 27" 1999 Trinitron by me, no one wants it because it's so big and heavy, and it's cheaper
It's almost 100 lbs
I'm checking out PC monitors first before I buy it, would be better for my use case
>>10816552
It was Coax/RF only unfortunately, the hunt continues
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>>10816591
I have an extra 13 inch here, a Toshiba with the combo DVD, if you were close to me I'd be willing to give it to you for free.
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>>10816518
You got a sister or a cousin? Get me a green card so I can be local to you and I'll buy it.
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>>10816579
>DEI hire fedex worker has a shitty day and throws package down on concrete doorstep
>breaks
>now you have to refund whatever the buyer paid and pay a ton more to ship yourself back a broken now worthless set
>fedex will weasel out of paying any insurance you had and will likely take it to court to get you to fuck off
would risk it if i fished it out of a dumpster like most people do but unfortunately this was also a dumb purchase i made myself. nobody is paying freight rates for anything but the highest end multiformats and BVMs
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>>10816648
I work for fedex and packages are routinely mistreated and that is considered normal.

It depends on your driver though. If you get a good one then they tend to have a better way of doing things and will organize and plan the day better. Others won't GAF and basically just toss packages around.
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>>10816463
Says right there, input 1 is composite and RGB, input 2 is composite and s-video
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>>10816693
I don't get it though. It's SCART. What's the difference?
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>>10816703
SCART is a connector, not a signal. the first input can receive composite or rgb if it is being sent, the second can receive composite or s-video if it is being sent.
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>>10816391
You maybe thinking about the rgb to composite converters that were used with mister initially, that was terrible, after YC cores were developed it's pretty much the cleanest composite you can get out of an emulator box. There's zero dot crawl on most cores.

>>10816414
I'll try to AB test on a different TV when I have the time but I honestly doubt there's a major difference.
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>>10816714
Lmao of course. I was confused because my PS2 works with both, except of course it would since I'm using a composite to SCART adapter while I wait for my SCART cables.
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>>10815684
>analog to analog converter
do you mean just an adapter? where no signal conversion happens, just changing from one connector shape to another?
i have two old GPUs, one with DVI-I, one with DVI-I and VGA.
i cant find simple DVI-I to component adapters but VGA to component and DVI-I to VGA are plenty to find.
would that work? and with better image quality than HDMI to component converter boxes?
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>>10816817
VGA and composite use different signals and need active electronics for conversion
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>>10816825
just noticed myself, the plugs on the image are the wrong color, but the cable is for component, not composite.
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>>10816817
This is called a "breakout cable" in most cases.
VGA to component cables are for devices like random projectors or MISTER that can output ypbpr over DB-15.
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>>10816817
No, I mean something like vga to component transcoder. It's converting rgb to ypbpr but not through a crummy DAC that crushes colors.
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>>10811626
its good because you can reach all the buttons
without moving your hands
still think the original one is the best though
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>>10816391
>>10816193
Question, do Mister uses Retroarch? does it allow you to load up PNG and other images as an image displayer? does it have a media player?
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>>10816879
>does mister use retroarch
Anon, I......
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>>10816865
does the stick work well?
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>>10816854
something like this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174166352619
its not easy to tell chinkshit from good products apart though, sadly.
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>>10816916
>>10816854
theres also the retrotink rbg2comp but that is scart to comp, not vga. and i dont know if vga can adapt to scart lossless
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>>10816916
Wakaba is 100% legit, not even chinese, it's just some guy making these by hand so they're perpetually out of stock
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>>10816928
SCART = RGB + combined sync
VGA = RGB + vertical sync + horizontal sync
it's possible.
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>>10816951
seems like hes also the only human on the planet making VGA to Comp specifically. i can find comp to vga, plenty of scart to comp, but the only VGA to comp is his.
>>10816959
looks like i would need yet another converter for vga to scart. and while i can find simple cables just fine, finding proper converters proves difficult.
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Is there any way to connect a PC to a CRT via converting HDMI (from the PC) to Component (on the TV) that doesn't break the bank? Already tried finding an old video card with S-Video but living in Shitholeistan means no old shit available for cheap in large quantities (or at all). Any adapters or something that can work?
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>>10817114
I don't think there is an affordable way to do that. If you are unable to find an old video card with svideo you are unlikely to find a solution to convert HDMI to component.
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>>10817114
Yes, its called IMAGINAAAAATIOOOON
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>>10816518
Contact the CRT neckbeard collective on twitter/youtube(RetroRGB, RetroTechUSA, Dark1x/John Linneman etc.)
They might take it off your back
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>>10816985
>but the only VGA to comp is his
There's this https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004717500469.html?sku_id=12000030216209548
I have one, it works. There was a bunch of similar devices back when analog video was relevant so maybe you can find some of those used.
>finding proper converters proves difficult
You don't really need a converter for scart, just a cable with a transistor to combine sync and resistors to bring the voltage down. Sold in a bunch of euro stores and fairly easy to make yourself but pretty pointless if you don't have an actual scart TV in your setup.
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Zoomers collecting old dirt no one cares about thread.
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>>10817720
You are old dirt no one cares about.
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>>10817114
yes, its very simple and very cheap. you just get one of those little converter boxes like picrel. very inexpensive and do their job. but image quality isnt the best.
im having noticeable color banding issues when watching anime so i will now go the analog GPU route instead. check the last dozen posts.
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>>10817720
rude. some of us are boomers selling old dirt to zoomers.
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>>10809206
The Trinitron there is a PC Monitor and it's running the game upscaled
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>>10818971
Pretty cool anon although you should have made your own DIY stick instead of buying 8shitpoo but it is what it is.
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>>10818971
There's a 7550 by me, hoping this person messages me back but the listing is 2 months old
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>>10819104
Its a good monitor
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>>10818976
Yea. This was my first one. I changed the stick. One of those good brands.
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>>10818976
Eh?
they work great for wireless
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>>10818971
holy fuck turn down the brightness anon
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bump
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So the convergence in the center of the screen on the latest TV that I've got is completely fine, but completely fucked in all 4 corners. Can I fix that with just spinning the rings without getting center out of whack or do I have to stick magnets into this thing?
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bought 2 (TWO) NEW vga cables. none of them go over 1800x1350.
am i doing something wrong here?
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>>10817526
>ReviewTechUSA

Neck yourself, i dont wanna watch a grotesqurly shaped fat homo manchild sucking cucumbers, poecelain chickens and horses and acting worse then DSP while neglecting his blinf daughter.
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>>10820632
Different guy, RetroTech is just a dude fixing CRTs
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>>10820607
they need to be made out of gold
>>10820468
You'll need to do manual correction with convergence strips (can DIY or order premade from ebay sellers)
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can anyone identify the sony trinitron model here?
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>>10822448
Is that real?
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>>10806945
what game is that? road rash?
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>>10822550
Looks like PS1 Road Rash, yeah.
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>>10818515
trinitrons look like shit even if you use upscaling
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>>10813584
i have a more modern vcr that doesn't convert composite to rf. another way is to get an rf modulator, but a vcr might be cheaper
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>>10816193
what hack?
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>>10822589
A Plumber for all Seasons, it's pretty comfy
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This man is the reason PVMs are now worth a $1000 dollars.
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>>10822854
Yeah, no
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>>10806945
That game has nice skyboxes
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>>10822565
I have never seen a VCR that didn't convert composite to RF.
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Thoughts on HD CRTs?
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>>10811428
VCR update, doesn't fucking work.
It can play NTSC tape in PAL color just fine, or even record NTSC video from line in and then play it back in PAL, so the circuitry to convert the signal is all there, but it's never applied to whatever comes into line in. Bummer.
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>>10822854
Gee is almost as if Millenial hipsters are just subversive infiltrators that are in just for the money and dont care about ruining things for people
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>>10822861
Yeah no how?
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>>10823803
>>10823806
So do you not have a good CRT or something? Glad I'm not in that boat.
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>>10823830
People who get them nowadays for cheap DONT BRAG, because they know hipsturds are peeping.
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>>10823686
A little bit peepee, a little bit poopoo.
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>>10822854
If you didn't get a PVM before youtubers made them popular then it sounds like you needed youtubers to teach you they existed in the first place, and in that case how are you any different from another 10000 shitters driving the price way up searching for one?
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>>10823686
Would be amazing if they made them in 27" or gave them multisync
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>>10823695
> so the circuitry to convert the signal is all there
Maye not. VHS does not use composite video, it has its own encoding, so the conversion is probably happening before conversion to composite.
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Why are sellers like this?
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>>10825612
>from israel
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>>10825612
>from israel
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Does anyone know what/where DIGIview comes from?
I got a monitor made by them, but I've never heard of this company before and I can't find anything online
Works fine at least
>>10825612
That's ridiculous
>from Israel
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>>10825612
Last week some palestinian kid was playing his polystation on one of those
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>>10825649
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>>10825612
>From Israel

I hate when /pol/ is right
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Always check estate sales
I almost gave up because the 2 they showed online were gone
This was still in the basement, literally losing my shit
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>>10825851
Estate sales? Is this in your car? Did you score?
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>>10823440
mine's a sony dvd/vcr combo. for some reason it only outputs rf from rf input and composite from composite input
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>>10825945
Yes
$60
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>>10825969
Paid $60 too much.
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>>10825851
neat. what's the model?
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>>10825976
1343MD
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>>10825969
So basically you cooked and now you're feasting? post pics of it running when you're done. I wanna see.
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>>10825986
I have the 19in version of this. Great device but a couple things to know:

1. You can't do much adjustments without opening up the back and there is no service menu.
2. The rgb ports will not work with component without the retrotink converter.


Got mine for around $300 and it was a deal, enjoy!
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>>10825993
>2. The rgb ports will not work with component without the retrotink converter.
What console outputs component but not RGB?
Getting right cables would be a better idea than a converter.
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>>10826005
>Getting right cables would be a better idea than a converter.

RGB should work fine.
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>>10825963
Curious as to the model.
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>>10825627
>>10825632
Kek. Never change, jews.
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>>10823806
Not him but RetroTechUSA is a very niche channel that few people watch
You can blame John Linneman instead
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Any of you guys have experience with these cheap things? Is input lag a huge problem?
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>>10826732
It's just bare HDMI to 480i composite. Input lag isn't overtly noticeable. Was pretty fun just to look at youtube videos on my 27" panny using it doe
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>>10826732
For the price they are unbeatable. Works great.
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>>10826027
SLV-D350P
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There is an A20 bvm near me and I want to buy it but I have some concerns.

First, I keep hearing about sync issues via some RGB. Does this apply to ALL RGB sources? The monitor comes with the original BKM-68X so it has the inputs but will it work with SNES, PS2 etc?

I know master system has issues with it but I don't really care about SMS games.
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>>10816193
Maybe not the place to ask, but how does mister compare to using original consoles+everdrives/ODE? Cost aside
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>>10828597
Any answer you have to wait to get here, you can get on google quicker.
>>10828701
If you use SNAC to directly connect your controllers via serial, then it's pretty much exactly the same.
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>>10828463
Are you sure you aren't doing something wrong? Not passing composite input to the RF output would remove the ability to monitor a recording from the composite input on an RF only TV. Not only would this be a bizarre choice the manual makes no mention of this being the case.
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>>10828701
Graphics, sound and controls wise I can't tell a difference, except for NES core looking slightly different (colors aren't the same no matter what palette you pick), and composite output is cleaner than some (real MD is blurrier, real NES is crawlier)
Appearance and feel wise originals always win, even in a nice case mister feels janky and looks way worse than any old console.
User experience wise it's 50/50 for me, some days I'm in a mood to just plug in a game and keep playing, some times I want to flip through 30 random games on random consoles.
It's very useful, especially if you want to play on a CRT, but I don't think of it as a replacement for my consoles.
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anyone else just stopped giving a fuck about the geometry
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I can't get this computer monitor to display 4:3
I think I narrowed it down to the fact that VGA pin 9 missing or the monitor not having that chipset capability in the first place

Every resolution comes out in a 16:9 aspect ratio with black bars on the top/bottom of the screen leaving blank space even after adjusting the screen settings on the monitor
Is there any way to salvage this?
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>>10831787
By pin 9, I mean the EDID signal btw
I think I narrowed it down to this but I'm not sure
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>>10831794
Damn, you can force a VGA monitor into 16:9 with EDID bullshit? Wonder if there's a way to do that with a PS3, that would be pretty cool.
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>>10831787
>>10831794
Nvm, I'm an idiot.
The monitor is squishing the image vertically and I'm only getting it to look somewhat normal with the adjustment buttons.
There's something wrong under the hood.
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Just fully set this up, how bad is my geometry? Only thing I'm seeing is the top third of the screen is pinched horizontally. Probably gonna fuck with this thing for an hour or two tomorrow and try to get it worked out.
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>>10832296
It's hard to see geometry issues in 3d games. If you play a side-scroller, any issue will become evident.
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>got new (to me) TV a month ago
>needs IR sensor replaced
>never soldered before but dad has, so I ask him to help me with it
>do research during that month, PCB uses lead-free solder
>finally get the chance for him to come over and do it
>walk off to grab a flashlight
>come back
>he's started without me
>"Jeez, this solder just doesn't want to melt."
>he's only ever worked with lead solder
>iron is cranked up to the max temperature, 900 degrees
>pads get lifted, can't put new sensor in without running wires or scraping up the leads
>"Oh well, it's not the end of the world. At least it was only $15."
I just needed somewhere to vent about this because I love my dad but holy fuck I'm livid. Any other time he's a "measure twice, cut once" kind of guy.
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>>10833363
Learn to solder, manchild.
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>>10833395
That's what he was trying to do, nigger
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>>10833404
retard
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>>10833395
That's what I was trying to do...
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>>10833421
By lifting the pads, retard? Watch a youtube video and practice on some old broken tech or a practice board, moron.
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>>10833429
You sound pathetic and miserable
You probably deserve it
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>>10833435
Deserve what, retard?
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>>10833429
Anon, can you read? My dad was the one that lifted the pads. He started without me. By the time I got back, the damage was already done.
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>>10833443
Can you read? Did I not tell you to learn to solder? You don't learn to solder by having your dad ruin your shit. Do your own work instead of relying on others.
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>>10833462
Miserable loser
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>>10833465
How's that IR sensor situation working for ya?
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>>10833462
Please re-read my initial post.
>never soldered before but dad has, so I ask him to help me with it
>so I ask him to help me with it
>help me
I'm sorry for not explicitly spelling out that I was expecting to do the soldering with him assisting me.
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>>10833468
Not even the anon with the issue, you sound like a pissy loser
You deserve your miserable shitty life
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>>10833469
Please re-read my initial post.
>Learn to solder, manchild.

>>10833475
Stop projecting. tranny.
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>manchild sperging out derailing the thread
so anyway
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>>10833489
unsurprising that he is a /pol/tard
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This is what no soldering skills does to a man.
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>>10833493
I'm sorry your father molested you or was never around, this isn't healthy.
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>>10833504
Stop projecting, tranny.
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>>10833508
>molestation victim loves tranny porn
classic
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>>10833493
This got a chuckle out of me.
I don't understand you but at least I'm not mad about the whole situation anymore. Thanks anon.
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>>10833517
So what did you learn today, boy?
>>10833509
Stop speaking about yourself in the third person.
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>>10833519
>So what did you learn today, boy?
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>>10833527
No, it's that you as a man should do things on your own...
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>>10833532
I'll get it fixed. If anything, this is a good learning experience and it's a good thing that it's a cheap device. Plus I already have a CRT so it's not like it's a big deal if this one doesn't work out. My frustration mostly stemmed from how flippant he was about it but oh well, it is what it is.
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>>10833539
Disown your dad.
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>>10833231
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>>10832376
Okay I'll hook up my SNES later today and see if you can see what I'm talking about.
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>>10832296
Looks fine to me
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the geometry on my tube television is slightly off, oddly enough it seems to straighten up the longer the tv is on
is that normal or am I losing my marbles?
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>>10834160
With old electrical components, it is normal that they may work better after warming up. It's a general caution to leave a CRT on for like half an hour before doing adjustments
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>>10833872
contra
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>>10832296
There's no way composite is the only input on this TV
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>>10834269
It's S video. I agree something is wrong.
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You don't don't have anything new to say about CRTs today?
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>>10836365
I bought a BVM Saturday and have been playing on it today.
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>>10836768
Picture proof?
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>>10836770
I can't take good photos of CRTs yet
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>>10836771
60hz shutter speed or 30 for 480i for starters.
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>>10836776
This is running at 480p.
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>>10836779
60hz it is then
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>>10836779
>>10836771
God damn this shit is so soulful. I fucking wish I could get one in yurop.
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>>10836779
>>10836771
>came with the controller and a mount for it

How much did you pay anon? Also what model?
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>>10836831
It was an insane amount. Only tv I spent more on was my 83in oled.

But it was between $1500 and $2200. It's an A20 and they go for about $4K without all the bells and whistles.
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>>10830310
upon further review, here are my findings:
playing a tape will output both composite and rf
inputting an rf source when no tape is playing will output that same source over rf, even if the vcr is unplugged
inputting rf will not result in outputting demodulated composite
nor will inputting composite output modulated rf
inputting composite doesn't even output that same composite signal
so pretty much the inputs only seem to be for recording, and the fact that rf goes through at all seems to be unintentional. if there's something else you want me to try, i will, but i don't have a spare tape to record to.
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>>10836776
>30 for 480i for starters.

HuhI had no idea. It werks.
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>>10836837
>A20

Anon...
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>>10833363
So you knew all this, yet didn't tell him.
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>>10836909
I went through the details a couple of weeks ago regarding what I had researched and pointed out that it was lead free solder with a higher melting point. I should've reiterated that beforehand instead of assuming that he'd wait for me to come back and I accept responsibility for that.
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>>10834264
Why does there is 240p limes?
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>>10836882
yep, 60 doesn't capture the other field reliably, so 30 blends them both like it should.
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>>10836954
He did nothing wrong. He helped you out purely from a place of love and yet you're still acting like a child. Atleast he's wise enough to not feel sorry for destroying a piece of trash. You're a zoomzoom inflating the value of a shitty crt tv, yet he knows the true value of it. Plastic waste. Please apologize to your father since it's easy to guess you acted irate and passive aggressive for his honest mistake. Get a better hobby.
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>>10836771
>>10836779
>all those buttons
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>>10833539
>how flippant he was about it

no shit he was flippant about accidently melting something that belongs in the dump
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Guys is there a VCR thread somewhere? I can't seem to find one. Trying to get a VCR to go with my CRT TV for let's say 100 bucks. Thing is I'm in yurop and want it to have SCART and play NTSC tapes as well.
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>>10838098
Why not just use composite?
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>>10838676
SCART better?
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>>10838892
but its vcr, it's gonna look like shit anyway
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>>10839048
That's not true.
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>>10822556
You are retarded
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>>10839280
NTSC/PAL VHS YIQ/YUV S-VIDEO/CVBS
SCART RGB?
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Bros, I'm strongly considering grabbing a VGA CRT monitor for $20 for my desk so that I can have Launchbox displayed on my main monitor and then display the actual games on the CRT.

Is it simple to use CRT EmuDriver to send a 31khz signal to the monitor and get some nice, sharp looking gameplay with tasty scanlines?

I'd like to move my 20" trinitron downstairs and just load RGB-Pi onto it, as it's just too big, and the geometry isn't in the best shape.
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>>10836771
What a nice monitor, wish I had it. How many hours does it have on the counter?
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>>10838892
VCRs that play NTCS tapes say so right on the front panel.
There's no point to getting one with scart since it will display composite anyway, that's what written on the tape.
S-VHS player will display s-video but there are no commercial releases on it so unless you have some home tapes recorded with an S-VHS camera it's completely pointless.
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Can I fry my CRT by fucking with the screen voltage pot?
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>>10841121
>There's no point to getting one with scart since it will display composite anyway, that's what written on the tape.

So there wont be any difference in video quality? It will be at least more convenient for me to use a scart cable though. I was wondering about S-VHS too, but I just felt like they were more expensive. You're saying there's no movies or anime or whatever released in S-VHS format?
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>>10840465
Lol retard
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>>10841202
>So there wont be any difference in video quality?
Absolutely none, VCRs that have a scart plug just send composite signal over it.
>It will be at least more convenient for me to use a scart cable though.
Use a pin adapter, literally same thing
>there's no movies or anime or whatever released in S-VHS format?
Yeah
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>>10841264
So basically what you're telling me is to just buy any working and clean looking 4 head + "hifi" VCR by JVC or Panasonic.
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>>10841270
Right.
Here's a trick to raise your chances of finding one with NTSC playback: set search for sellers from Ukraine
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>>10841287
Nah I'd have to pay VAT and maybe customs. I'll just read the manual.
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>>10806414
not audio cucked.
new table.
>>10816891
yes it does, its like an xbox clone.
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>>10842354
That looks sick bro but where are your playstations and dreamcast?
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>>10838098
A ton of PAL VCRs from the 90s early 00s will play NTSC, you shouldn't have a problem finding one. It usually is indicated in some way on the chassis
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>>10841264
> VCRs that have a scart plug just send composite signal over it.
I would be suprised if there are no VCRs that output RGB. VHS is not coposite video, as such it would be better to convert VHS directly to RGB rather that doing a round trip through composite.
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>>10808929
round corners are based
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>>10833231
ditch the hokey tube amp and ugly tv and get a tv that does both with tubes



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