Almost 13 million people who bought an NES did not proceed to buy an SNES. Why not?
Competition, must notably from Sega.
>>11275264The SNES was not a revolutionary product like the NES. It was an incremental improvement.People who went on to not really like video games bought an NES because it was a cultural phenomenon.They also had competition in the form of the genesis and then even stronger competition in subsequent generations.The Wii then went on to eclipse even the NES because it was another phenomenon that was totally different from the competition.
>>11275264the NES was essentially unchallenged in the console market until the Mega Drive. The SNES was immediately at war when it was released and fighting two fronts by 1994
>sell nearly 10m less per generation with every console>this scales with difficulty of the games offered>Wii comes out with the most casual games possible and blows away every predecessorweird, frankly.
>>11275279/thread. The NES had essentially zero competition in the markets that matter (JP and NA)
>>11275309You might actually be stupid.
>>11275283A ton of people at the time also just didn't understand the idea of having to upgrade to a whole new system to buy newer, more graphically intensive games. It's wild watching news reports from the SNES release where you have angry customers swearing never to buy it because it's a rip-off, and their old NES should just be able to play the new stuff anyway.
>>11275264Parents had the idea of "you already HAVE a Nintendo you don't need another one"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTzyz2TgGls
>>11275264"You already have the Nintendo, you don't need another one."
>>11275332>"If you're a real good player, meaning you got the skill of a nine or ten year old, you can even try to JUMP your car."Still gets a chuckle out of me. I always thought this was a pretty reasonable bit of coverage for vidya back in the day.
>>11275264Damn, when you look at the raw numbers like this it makes you wonder what the average heart rate at Nintendo HQ was. Doesn't include the handhelds though and those kept them well afloat.I wonder how many salarymen jumped out of buildings because of this. It's clear that multiple people were committing dishonorable acts.
>>11275345>Doesn't include the handhelds though and those kept them well afloat.Handhelds were barely a drop in the bucket until Pokemon.
>>11275349It sold double the NES over it's lifespan at good profit margin and a lot of people had Gameboys before Pokemon.
>>11275349Not true at all. Pokemon was such a phenomenon because so many people had Game Boys already. Pokemon did however help sell the Game Boy Color which came out the same year in North America as Red/Blue.
It was really expensive at first and people had just bought an NES. It didn't seem necessary to buy the new system.
>>11275264Almost 1/4 of a person (a zoomtard is 1/5 of a person) can't understand what a simple chart means. Why not?
>>11275264>10/10>9/10>7/10>9/10Every console after is below a 5
>>11275382GameCube is the 7/10 and N64 is an 8/10, plausibly a 9/10.N64 had more industry shaking experiences (M64, OoT, Goldeneye, perspective correct 3D) than Gamecube, which during it's gen was simply the "other" console.Gamecube had a few truly great games but that's it.I agree that every Nintendo console post 'cube is mediocre though outside of the Switch (which isn't great but actually is able to carve out an identity in an over-saturated market so I give them props for that). Wii era was a dark time for us and a golden age for the Nintendo bean counters until they committed seppuku during Wii U.
>>11275403>perspective correct 3DIt was available for years before N64 and barely anyone cared about it
>>11275264Their parents did the purchasing for them, and didn't care.
>the SNES was too expensive!>kid's parent's didn't see the point of buying a new console so soon!>the SNES was competing more!Shouldn't these all go away with time? These are total sales through to the SNES discontinuation in the early 2000's. Kids who were interested in the SNES would had a chance to buy an SNES at some point, they simply never did. Almost 13 million people who bought the NES didn't ever upgrade to the SNES.
>>11275403The Wii has a lot of trash, but that's mostly because it has a gigantic library. No other console before it can compete with it in terms of library if you count the Virtual Console, and even if you don't it's still miles ahead of the GameCube (which also is essentially a part of its library) and especially the N64.Obviously N64 is much more historically important, but if I was trapped on a deserted island and could only bring one emulator with me for entertainment, Dolphin would be at the top of my list.
>>11275505And, I should add, this is despite the video games market growing rapidly since the NES. Video games were not less popular during the SNES period. The market existed, but millions of people who had an NES never bothered with an SNES.
>>11275505A lot of people just have a very casual interest in video games.I personally know people whose upgrade path was NES -> Mini NES. They never bothered with anything in between the two and purchased the latter because it was nostalgic for them.If you play games once a month or less, an NES is really all you need.
>>11275317no u
>>11275419On PC for a family-unfriendly price plus a technical skill level to install a graphics card in the 90s or at the arcade. Nintendo put it under your TV for 300 bucks. They did it first in the console space, therefore set an industry standard.>>11275506Wii was ugly and annoying. Gamecube as a new games machine was at least a step above Wii, especially as Wii ditched traditional control schemes for a gimmick.
>>11275506Wii is absolute garbage. Made for lowest common demoninator casuals like (You). Every single nintendo franchise besides mario kart took a major step back on wii. Galaxy 1/2 could've been great without awful waggling but they just couldn't help themselves.
>>11275534Mario Kart Wii was the first shit one.Double Dash is much better.Shit opinion.
>>11275534Yeah, waggleshit was a dark time. It made you feel like a huge faggot playing any of the games which is great for geriatics, women and children but not for the turbonerds nintendo forgot to pander to. Wii is absolutely disgusting, it's hideous in design, UI, and forced gameplay mechanics because of the fucking waggleshit controls.You know why a Wii is amazing today? Because it's an overclocked GameCube you can softmod in 10 minutes that can do 240p, making the Wii an awesome entry point for everyones fleeting CRT nostalgia phase and zoomers who missed out that want to buy my hunk of junk tube for 150 bucks.
You guys are all young and just guessing based on modern conjecture. I am from the period and the explanation is a bunch of adults bought it to play golf because gaming was accessible casually and they finished with gaming after that because they were just too old to keep up. Nintendo sold a ton of systems to hotels and dentist offices, only a very small number of those ventures worked out, so the people who did kept going until around n64. I personally stayed at a hotel in the 1980s and it had a Nintendo in the tv in all the two bed rooms and a Nintendo arcade in the lobby you payed quarters to get literally 1 minute of playtime from a cart you selected. What you guys lack in perspective is the way games were viewed at the time by the general public. It became a bit less accessible to adults around snes because of the music and colors and graphics were a huge hit with kids but not as adult friendly as nes with simpler graphics and sound. Newer systems were simply over stimulating for a generation that maybe seen a bit of arcades or Atari a few times. The 1980s people had tons of money and jobs, Nintendo had tons of hype and value for your buck, it was new. SNES was like a movie sequel to cynical adults used to everything being a cash grab let down. So, economy and demographics and sales environment in the games market.
>>11275264That's global sales, and SNES was sold in fewer markets than the NES. And many of the markets it was sold in, it just was not competitive.Nintendo themselves is to blame for this. Their fucked up franchising model for importers along with their terrible PAL support and absolute refusal to localize games outside of markets Nintendo sells directly to ended up harming their sales greatly up until the Wii generation.
>>11275561Nintendo fucked that up with the NES too.There's a reason the NES was far less popular in Europe.If anything, Nintendo made more efforts for the European markets with the SNES than they did with the NES.
Weird shit is that they made more money in the 6th gen than PS did.What's the deal with that?
>>11275537no, based opinion
>>11275649What's good about Mario Kart Wii?
>>11275651What's good about Double Dash?All GC sequels are just inferior versions of the N64 games.OoT > Wind WakerSmash 64 > MeleeF-Zero X > GXKart 64 > DDMario 64 > Sunshine
>>11275651>playable Rosalina>best original tracks>way better handling than DD>bikes>online>lots of single player unlockablesI have no idea how anyone can prefer double dash. The gimmick seems cool at first but in practice it barely adds anything. Ds and wii were peak mario kart, even though it's non retro and pains me to say it.
>>11275653Literally the only one of these that's true is 64>sunshine. N64 also has ZERO metroid games which is a huge knock against it. Doesn't have pikmin, or animal crossing (outside japan) either. On the other hand, GC has no (real) kirby game and 64 has the best one. Only a small, small minority of autistics think smash 64 beats melee or X>GX. I like gamecube just a bit more, but it's really close.
>>11275653>>11275654Double Dash has the best handling.64 feels stiff and shitty in comparison.Wii feels like the Brawl of the Mario Kart series. More content, but dumbed-down and slow. Rounded-down corners for babies.
>>1127567264 is the best one you stinky faggot.Mario Kart 64 is instant fun with the most soulful graphics and best tracks. It's legendary, dare I say the perfect kart racer.As someone who really hates the Wii, even I would have to say MKWii is slightly better than Double Dash. Double Dash had a worthless gimmick.
>>11275264Competition.Mega Drive in US and parts of EU, PC-Engine in JP
>>11275676Mario Kart 64 is a fun game, but it feels like shit to play after Double Dash.You get used to it again right away and can have fun, but it is worse.Who gives a shit if the gimmick of double dash basically boils down to being able to have two items? It doesn't detract anything.
>>11275739I unironically think DS is still the best version. No gimmicks, just a ton of content and solid fundamentals. Just goes to show you it's a great series where everyone can point to a different favorite.
>>11275746I think DS feels closest to Double Dash, controls-wise.
>>11275325Yeah, it's wild that parents weren't jumping at the chance to drop another 200 dollars on something that could just be a passing fad for all they knew.
>>11275264 Almost 13 million people who bought an NES did not proceed to buy an SNESYour thought train is not correct and you need to learn to read data. Your post is implying 2 things: 1) that these NES sales data are only from before the SNES was released, and 2) that 62 million sales means 62 million different people.And both of these are incorrect. Nintendo kept selling new NESes at least until 2003, but realisticly it kept selling decently until 1995 which is when the last NES bundle was released.Secondly, that's 62 millions sales, not 62 million different people. The first batch of Famicoms in 1983 (when they say "NES sales" they mean NES+Famicom) were prone to failure and many people had to buy a second one when Nintendo fixed the faulty parts. Then you have the people who bought an OG Famicom/NES and then bought an AV Famicom or a Toploader later on; and people who bought 2 units for various reasons (my mom bought a second unit sometime after 1995 because one of our pads was broken and lone pads couldn't be found at that point, but the NES was so cheap it didn't fucking matter to just get a new one).I'm actually amazed nobody's picked this up ITT, I guess everyone really is retarded except me.Especially the week-ends posters.
>>11275754First round of famicoms would have only affected Japanese early adaptors and wouldn't affect the figure significantly.People would have bought multiple super nintendos too. It has a redesigned model as well.
>>11275264>Almost 13 million people who bought an NES did not proceed to buy an SNES. Why not?MegadriveMasterSytemTurbografxPCetc...
>>11275778yeah, i didnt buy a snes because master system LOL
>>11275787You didn't buy anything because you were born in 2000
>>11275264I always assume the official sales for most consoles is actually higher than the reported number. This is only sales they have been able to track. Doesn't usually factor in third world countries, bootlegs, or maybe even hand me down consoles or used consoles. With that in mind I can easily see it being true that quite a lot more people played these consoles then were sold for sure.Well as for your question. I think Nintendo's appeal slowly declined until they hit it huge with Wii. PlayStation absorbed a huge chunk of their market for awhile. They floundered big time with Wii U but then bounced back insanely well with the Switch.In another reality maybe PS1 doesn't become a thing or maybe Sega does decide to partner up with Sony to release the Sega PlayStation to compete against Nintendo. The third brand becomes 3DO maybe? If it weren't for PlayStation then Nintendo and Sega would have sold a lot more consoles. Turbo and Genesis probably stole some of that 13 million away from NES btw.
>>11275264I wanted to check out Sega gaming side. I like to switch console brand every generation
>>11275641handhelds and pokemania
People grew up and didn't want to play the same bing bing wahoo kiddieshit anymore
>>11275839>I always assume the official sales for most consoles is actually higher than the reported number.All console sales number are estimates. Check the sources on wikipedia and you'll find out they're *estimates* from literally-whos found in some 20 years old newspaper you never heard of. At best.Also Sega was known for having inflated numbers because they'd count sales towards stores, except they ended up getting a lot of returns from unsold products. Nobody knows if the wikipedia estimate sales figures are before or after those returns.
The market was honestly staggered by the NES to the point where it held the industry back. Even into the early/mid 90s, a lot of people, especially outside Japan, were still into the Famicom. When in reality, the Famicom was always supposed to be a 1983 console, and it was kept alive for a very long time. Basically, Japanese technology in the 80s and 90s was moving at lightspeed, and most of the world didn't really care or understand. Japanese were taking video games a lot more seriously than us and everybody else. The fact that a Super Nintendo even existed probably didn't even register to a lot of people.
>>11275753Those parents were retarded.
>>11275561>PAL supportYa we never got any of the tentpole rpgs. They seemed to abandon the console early too. No Blood in Mortal Kombat made a lot of people buy a Megadrive too.
>>11275761>1) that these NES sales data are only from before the SNES was releasedWhy would people buy an NES instead of an SNES if the SNES is allegedly so much better?>2) that 62 million sales means 62 million different people.In the case of repeated purchases, the SNES had faulty units too, especially early units with failing CPU's, it actually had a significantly higher failure rate than the NES, meaning the SNES should have benefited more from repeat purchases than the NES.
>>11275283>People who went on to not really like video games bought an NES because it was a cultural phenomenon.This. My dad bought an NES for himself when it was new and put it away after a while because he's terrible with technology. The only time he played a video game after that, outside of a short stint with some golf on the family N64 that lasted about a day, was with the Wii.
>>11275283>>11277071What was preventing the allegedly "way better" SNES from being a cultural phenomenon and attracting people who weren't gamers?
>>11275283>People who went on to not really like video games bought an NES because it was a cultural phenomenon.Absolutely retarded statement, and I'm not even a nintendo-fag.
>>11275283>The SNES was not a revolutionary product like the NES. It was an incremental improvement.>People who went on to not really like video games bought an NES because it was a cultural phenomenon.By this logic then the PS2 should have sold less than the PS1 because it literally didn't do anything new other than be a more technologically advanced PlayStation.
>>11275279fpbp. This is it really. It went from NES being the only name worth a damn in town to do you have a SNES or genesis. That's really all there is to it.
>>11277280Games were an established market then.It was no longer a fad.Everyone that liked games even slightly had a PS2.
>>11277270>The system that causes all grandmas across the world to subsequently call all other video games Nintendo wasn't a cultural phenomenon.
>>11275403Wtf drugs are you on lmao
>>11277489What part is bothering you?
>>11275264>Almost 13 million people who bought an NES did not proceed to buy an SNES. Why not?People are saying Genesis which is true but I'd say Nintendo pulled off a pretty big win with the added competition. Like 33+ million Genesis were sold world wide so if it was just people moving to Sega then SNES sales should be around 28 million. That's before we take into account the PC Engine too.Either a lot of people had both, a lot of Genesis owners were new customers or the market for Nintendo expanded, probably a mix of all three. Nintendo had gone from what was practically a console monopoly to having two major competitors and still walked away with 49 million sales, more than both the competitors combined.They still did incredibly well that generation all things considered, it's really the N64 generation where they lost the momentum to Sony for the next 2 generations.
You dad, who also bought the Game Boy to play precisely one game (Tetris) did not translate into a long term customer. 5 years is also, for example, enough time for a 15 year old to enter college and for gaming to become less of a priority.
>>11275264I skipped it for the Sega Genesis. I wasn't really invested in Nintendo flagship properties and Genesis had Altered Beast and Golden Axe.
>>11275403>industry shaking experiencesThis is a lot of narrative bias you bought into
>>11277623You made the better choice.
>>11277628>analog sticks as standard >perspective correct 3D>Mario 64 perfecting the 3D camera >popularized the console fpsThis easily puts the N64 over GameCube. I’m not saying it’s the most important console ever made, I’m saying it was more significant for the industry than GameCube.
>>11275264I had a NES. I wanted a SNES. I guess I was too retarded to know how to ask for one. And I ended up getting a Model 2 Genesis for my Birthday. And for all the games I could have got with it; I got Tazmania. Luckily I did get much better games latter on.
>>11275668>N64 also has ZERO metroid games which is a huge knock against itmetroid is the most overrated shit ever
>>11275279But I had an SNES and a Genesis.
>>11277006>Why would people buy an NES instead of an SNES if the SNES is allegedly so much better?Because it takes quite some time from you publish the SNES, until it has a decent library. Which could be mirrored in "PS3 has no games" meme.Your second argument doesn't make sense if you consider the context either.Going from 32-bit to the 3D era was fucking wild. Another option would be to buy a different console, as the competition ramped up a lot in the SNES era as well.It also plays into the economic dynamics as well. You could splurge on a SNES, or you could buy a significantly cheaper NES + second hand games. You could bring up the Wii in this, which got 4 major revisions as well, and follow that trend. The only reason it didn't have more staying power is the collective consumer move to HD.
>>11275309>>11275279I am sure it's not the fact that they were kind of pridefull and in a way unhelpfull towards 3rd party devs, especially with the N64 and Gamecube giving them low storage while games where getting bigger and that's NOT even counting FMVs
>>11277302>It went from NES being the only name worth a damn in town to do you have a SNES or genesis.ever heard of the turbografx?
>>11279246most people didn't, no
>>11275264>NES did not proceed to buy an SNES. Why not?they were waiting for the holy messiah Wii >>>/v/>real reason: they bought a GBA later.
>>11275264Easier games and the snes looked girly
>>11277108because adults are smart and wont buy another system for their kid just because of "new" graphics
>>11277458I never said it wasn't a cultural phenomenon, retard, because that part of the statement wasn't the premise of the sentence.
>>11275264nes games were still being made well into the early 90s, then the PSX came out and obliterated the competition for the next two generations
>>11275264Because the parents thought it was a scam, they were like "why do I need another nintendo"?
>>11275264>Why not?Genesis.
>>11275558Good post. I remember playing Double Dragon while getting my hair cut at the barbershop
>>11279990hey, RETARDhere's someone affirming my point>>11277071Suck my fucking cock you bitch.
>>11275264The NES was too good. It was also kind of like a once off, too. A lot kids had a NES when they were little but they didn't upgrade to anything else, they just moved on to other things in life rather than continuing to get the latest games. It was less common to play videogames all throughout your teenage years then.
Some people weren't on board with the "you keep buying them" thing. It was redesigned to look like a VCR and that's how some people thought of it, something that would be a fixture, not something that would be made obsolete.
>>11275264>We already bought you a Nintender with a whole buncha tapes. Now you're telling me you need a SUPER Nintender? Sorry kiddo, but that just sounds like a scam.
>>11277280It can play DVDs. That was a big deal back then.
>>11279246I didn't even know what a Turbografx was beyond cursory mentions online until I was in my 20s as a '93 kid. We had an Atari, Genesis and NES, SNES at the grandparents', but somehow dodged all the Turbografx stuff, not even bargain bin remnants.It simply got devoured in the SNES vs. Genesis console war hype.
>>11275314The PC Engine outsold the Famicom as soon as it launched in 1987 and maintained dominance until the Super Famicom came out in 1990, retard.
>>11275309wii was advertised as more than video game console, it was also a fitness product. the same dumb ass women who bought every infomercial exercise gimmick since the Thigh Master also bought a wii
>>11279246the only people in the west who know what a turbografx is even now are terminally online nerds like us. go to a random person in the street and ask them what their favorite PC engine game is kek
They moved on to the superior console.
>>11281246> superior> turbofaggox16superior than nes, worse than everything else. quite an accomplishment of hudson.
>>11282939It was an accomplishment.The PC Engine came out in 1987.Releasing it so late in NA was retarded.
>>11275403>perspective correct 3DNobody ever once mentioned the PS1 graphics being wobbly or shaking when I was a kid, and I never noticed it either.In fact, almost universally it is something that emerges in the 2000s with the rise of emulators.
>>11282947Same goes for saying N64 had vaseline filter and low framerate. I never noticed, or cared as a kid. So what now?
>>11281054>The PC Engine outsold the Famicomthey didn't even reach 750k in sales in USA until 1991. it failed everywhere except in japan.>>11282945>Releasing it so late in NA was retarded.oh yeah but releasing it earlier probably wouldn't have helped matters when genesis (and news of it) were arriving sometime in 1988 in japan. and you also had computers like amiga that had amazing games that were close to arcade. hard sell to get people to buy a console that looks and sounds out of date.
>>11282971Yes that one year before the genesis was huge in Japan, and the system itself was comparable enough to the mega drive to prevent it from getting very popular in Japan.Same thing could have happened in NA as long as they beat the genesis to market by a similar margin.
>>11282947>>11282952It's less apparent on a CRT.
>>11282952a lot of n64's graphics quirks are solely due to microcode. very few developers knew how to program their own and those that did didn't program it well were limited by poor and incomplete documentation. the video chip is very flexible and could display very crisp graphics but you would never know this based on the slop vomited up by games developers during its lifespan.
>>11275264Lots of people bought a Genesis before waiting for the SNES came out.
>>11282971>The PC engine failed everywhere it wasn't sold and only succeeded in the place it was sold, where it did phenomenally well and and outsold bing bing wahoo.Yup
>>11275264I'm in a place where the master system was popular and I know that a lot of people got a snes as their next system. Many people just want to get the competition because they feel they may missed out on stuff before or they feel the current brand has become the boring conformist.>>11275558Thing wasn't marketed to boomers so they whined like they usually did. Back then old people convinced themselves they only played serious mature games like kings quest.>>11275778Or just keep the nes until ps1 because many were brought in 1990 and 1991. How many parents said "but you already have a nintendo" when they asked for a snes.
>>11282971>it failed everywhere except JapanThat's exactly the point in was making retard, the cunt I was responding to claimed the Famicom had no competition.>>11282982No, the PC Engine sold more units than the Mega Drive every year without exception.
>>11283121My wording was not the best but that's what I was saying.The PC Engine beat the mega drive in Japan, so if they had released the TG16 with a similar lead, they may have had taken Sega's position.
Divorce became more prevalent.
>>11275403Switch is good for the same reason the PS1 was good: the competition was/is too busy shooting themselves in the foot.
>>11284364This.XBOX is pretty much the Saturn, while PS5 is the N64, though at least N64 had SOVL and a ton of gems, PS5 is just slop after slop, Sony moving to California was really the end for their creativity. I loved the PS1 and PS2, it's a shame how far they managed to fall.PS5's quite sleek though.
>>11284385>I loved the PS1 and PS2, it's a shame how far they managed to fall.Yup... That said, I'm also not surprised the hubris gained from the success of the PS1/2 lead them down this path.
>>11275283I agree with this. A revolutionary feature brings in normie sales. It's also why the DS did so well. Why buy the new SNES when it's pretty much the same as the other Nintendo from a few years ago, and little Jimmy and Suzi barely use that one anyway. That new PlayStation though, the games are like movies, and it's a Sony!
>>11284385What is that, an internet router?
>>11284509>Why buy the new SNES when it's pretty much the same as the other Nintendo from a few years ago, and little Jimmy and Suzi barely use that one anyway.Guess I understand why graphical power became a very important marketing gimmick during that gen (and subsequent others) now.
>>11275505Yes, in fact a lot of those SNESes must have been bought when the system was dirt cheap and the late classic games like FF6 were out. I was a Genesis kid and I still got a $99 SNES eventually.
the decline from NES to GC is crazy. what the hell happened
>>11275279And NEC in Japan.
>>11284385They did move their software department back to Japan (ran by Hideaki Nishino), hardware department is still in California because of AMD.
>>11285720>They lost the arcades and RPG's to the Sega Saturn and Playstation, American sales of the N64 held up. >The GameCube probably picked the worst generation to like like a Fischer Price playset. GBA saved their asses.>The Wii was a comeback as they innovated in both the console and handheld space.>The Wii U was under powered, had a laughable gimmick and 3DS kind of had the same library, most people went with the 3DS. >Switch is when they finally realized their handhelds have always been successful and went all in making a handheld with an HDMI dock so you can play it on the TV.
>>11279069Most people didn't have divorced parents who tried to buy their love by getting them everything they wanted.
>>11285720Nintendo losing their minds about piracy mostly. They originally had a stake in Playstation and dropped at the last second when they saw CD burners. NES was a windfall because it launched uncontested.Also they had huge GameBoy / DS profits the entire time, so the argument for them to get into the loss leading race with Microsoft and Sony wasn't really there.
>>11285823>get one console for christmas early in gen (1990-93)>get other for birthday/christmas later when lower in price (1993-95)why do so many act like owning both consoles back then was impossible? i get why normalfags would only have one or the other but if you were an avid gamer in a middle-class household, why wouldn't you have gotten both by around 1994 or so?>t. 1999 zoomer but actually researched how much each console cost throughout their respective lifespans
>>11285720>Super NES had a CPU that was too slow for normie tastes, same with the ram.>N64 had laggy ram and barely any space.>GameCube barely had any space.
>>11286524This. All the Nintendo consoles after the NES were pieces of shit on a hardware level, which directly affected the quality of the games libraries. This caused a slow bleeding of third party support, starting with the SNES, which progressed more and more. The NES hardware was a piece of shit too, but it was the only option at the time, and could be extended by relatively cheaper helper chips a lot more easily than the later hardwares, so it was "good enough" to not drive developers away, unlike the SNES, N64, and GameCube.
>>11286456Gaming PCs existed and were ruinously expensive. Dad would have a PC and the kids would have a console. Singular. Maybe be able to touch dad's PC with intense supervision.Also a lot of properly middle class families, meaning rich enough to blow up a business without jeopardizing their living standards, were pretty strict about policing their kids' screen time and wouldn't buy them a lot of vidya stuff. I had the typical estranged working class parents buying me off with video games, and the middle class kids would usually hang out with me to play games rather than the other way around.
>>11275309Youre retarded. Go beat literally any NES game then play Wind Waker and tell me which is harder.
