Really?
>>11634620Everyone knows exactly why. One of the oscillators drifts a bit because that's something that happens with time. it's enough to necessitate workarounds for some TAS runs of Super Metroid
>>11634620>The SNES is running faster as it gets olderIt's not>no one seems to knows whyEveryone knows exactly why what's actually happening is happening.
So I can finally play shmups without slowdown? Nintendo does????
>>11634620Coomlectorbros...I don't feel too good...
This is why emulation is more accurate for most consoles at this point. Using original hardware is just a plastic fetish.
Remember, if you play on an old snes, you didn't beat the game
>>11634620>playing on original hardwareYou didn't beat the game
Australia kun thread
>>11634625I would not have expected clock drift to effect TAS playback. A TAS playback device should derive its timing from the controller port reads, so why would the system running a little faster effect anything?
>>11634743TAS input playback is done by the frame.
It's because time is speeding up so everything seems faster.
>>11634620> lie> post it on the internet> dumbest of dumbfuck retards post it on 4chanfuck off, retard.
>>11634728the literal state of emubabies
>>11634818It's from an IG post
>>11634620board rot. as the motherboard deteriorates, this effectively overclocks the system. my snes was left in a closet full of moths and now mario runs almost as fast as sonic.
>>11634771What do you mean by that specifically. Do you mean they derive their timing from the v-sync signal of the video output? Even doing it that way it should still not usually matter, maybe in some corner case during a lag frame?Also, in regards to TAS being done on frames. I have always thought that is highly retarded. I made my own tas playback device once, and I based it on controller reads rather than frames. When you use controller reads instead of frames it becomes much more resistant to desyncs.
>>11634620MISTERchads and Emulatorchads have long fought against one another...BUT ON THIS DAY WE ARE BROTHERS!
>>11634890Slow news day if they have to talk about the zus N.E.S.
>>11634620how long before my PAL snes is 60hz
>>11634620No not really, stop posting click bait shit here
>>11634890Kinda crazy how it happened specifically 2 days ago. You'd think it was gradually, but clearly started 2 days ago
>>11634890real hardware cucks BTFO
>>11634917Everyone just believes game journalists on here?>>11634896Sorry anon, you’re gonna have to do a regionless mod with a DFO
>>11634728This. Our savior Higan-person created a cycle accurate(i.e. completely perfect) SNES emulator because they saw this would happen in a vision.
>>11634909Nearly all "journalists" are just plagiarists.
>>11634886It's done by the frame of the video output, about 60 inputs a second (or more with multiple controllers). If the game slows down or speeds up slightly, it "desyncs" the input schedule from the game and the whole rest of the run is ruined.
>>11634743>>11634771>>11634886>>11634939some things in Super Metroid are tied to the ceramic oscillators that regulate audio, instead of the quartz crystal
I have a very early Super Famicom. It's so fast that it even beats blast processing! I always knew Nintendo would win in the long run.
>>11634890>"brothers" with autists that spend $400+ on an emulatorboxnah
>>11634728How many 3d consoles have 100% or near emulation yet?
>>11634983All the ones that matter
>>11634963Can't those just be replaced?
>>11634963I did not know that. So the SNES is basically non-deterministic. That is cursed.
>>11634983The NES, and it's way more system intensive than you would expect lol. Perfection is really hard to achive in Emulation.>>11634990Almost no consoles have 100% perfect emulation. Please name a few that you think do, so I can laugh at you.
They warned us about velocidensity, but we didn't listen
>>11635015>anon can't read
>>11635027>Anon dodges the question.Name some emulators that are Perfect or Near perfect (as in 99% accurate).Don't dodge the question again, coward.
>>11634728You have to admit it's fun to play games on original hardware if you can or else you never have. I have a Genesis and NES hooked up to a CRT with only a couple of games for each and it's a fun conversation piece. You're most likely never going to be in a situation where a regular person wants to play a game from a giant listed of emulated roms but if they see you have a console sitting around they might be eager to play.
>>11635032Work on your reading comprehension first.Anon's question isn't all that hard to read. If you fuck that up you shouldn't be posting on image boards yet.
>>11635056>Dodges the question>Twice in a rowLOL!!!!Thanks for confirming you can't name a single example. You really showed me;^)
>>11635060I don't give a shit about the question. I'm just here to make fun of you for answering a question about 3D consoles with "The NES".retard
Austerbros? Our response?
>>11635062NES is the only console I can name with a known advertised 100% accurate emulator period. Which is why I mentioned it.Why are you so afraid of answering the question? Just name a 99%+ accurate emulator.
>>11635068I don't care about accuracy of emulators. I already told you I have no horse in this race. I just wanted to make fun of you for not being able to read a question properly.
>>11635075>He can't do itLOL
>>11635079Of course I can't. I've never researched the topic because as I told you three times now, I don't care.
>>11635032>>11635068WoW64
>>11634983virtual boy
>>11635082>"I DON'T CARE!!!!!!">he autistically screeches againSure you don't, champ.>>11635087I'll look into this, thanks for posting an example.
>>11635091That's a 3D console, he asked about 2D ones, like the NES.
>>11635042Most people aren't interested in playing retro games period. They'll gladly watch some e-celeb talking about a retro game and playing it poorly, and talk about that e-celeb, but they have no interest in playing themselves.>work at a ski lodge one winter around 2017>bring SNES, two controllers, and my flash cart loaded with roms and romhacks>overhear some coworkers talking about some e-celeb's review of a retro game>"you guys like old games?">"hell yeah!">break out my SNES, hook it up(they still had some old CRT), ask what they want to play>"uhh, anything is good">load up an easy SMW romhack>they played for about 5 minutes, then suddenly found a reason to go be elsewherePeople like to say they are interested in old games, the majority of them don't actually want to play those old games. They are hard, clunky, and lacking modern QoL features the modern generation can't do without. Running out of lives/continues means losing all progress? Having to explore around or draw your own maps? That's so clunky man!
>>11634923Byuu IS A mentally broken MAN, he was not an ""Enby"", enby is a fucking lie from cultural and social Marxists like John ""Asshole Pedophile"" Money. Byuu did not kill himself. he's either homeless, barely hanging on, or is under a new moniker/username.
>>11635104>picks the most sperg-core game possibleno fucking wonder he ran away
>>11635104>most peopleSays the faglord who thinks his singular experience represents most people on Earth. Where did this happen, anyway?
>>11635104>SMW romhackImagine being this autistic
>>11635108oh please mr socialite tell us lesser fags more of your real world experiences
>>11635118>t.thinks he is the world. I would, But its not really retro
>>11635113the funniest part is most of the smw hacks don't run correctly on real hardware as they were constructed/hex edited by drooling & obese morons that used 20 year old emulators.
>>11635062>claims other person fails at reading comprehension>proves that they lack it themself
>>11634728emulators are far better and for some reason autistic manchildren just cant accept it
>>11635163people pretend that 1 frame of latency makes emulated games unplayable, while simultaneously playing real hardware on an lcd tv in "game mode" which adds far more latency
>>11634728Playing on the original hardware will always be the most pure, authentic and accurate option. Anything else is just cope.
>>11635223>accurate>console is literally running faster than it's supposed to
Emulators can't keep up due to inferior speed, this is why speed runners prefer original hardware which works as intended
>>11635223>>11635237
I hate emulation because it decreases the value of the games I spent over $400k on. Yes, poorfags, I spent more than you will ever have on video games. I just wish I could afford to buy a car or a house.
>>11635015Name a 3d system that matters retardkun so I can laugh at you
>>11634620Tutti
>>11635012Every copy is personalized...
>>11635168Shouldn't "game mode" reduce latency? I thought that was the point.
>>11635735No, that's SM64, and Doshin the Giant.
>>11635032>Near perfectMesen's NES emulation
>>11635750"game mode" doesn't turn your lcd tv into a crt, there's still more latency. NTA, btw.
>>11634923>i.e. completely perfectList problems with bsnes
>>11635279I had something like this happen to me a few times, which is partially why I sold all of my shit and started emulating exclusively. The thought of sinking exhorbitant amounts of money into hardware that will be half a century old before long just doesn't make sense. Emulation is basically a solved problem for 6th gen and under outside of Xbox and Saturn; and now that this old shit is starting to deteriorate to the point where even the accuracy is questionable, I just don't see the point anymore unless your goal is to sip chocolate milk, play dying hardware and pretend you're 10 years old again.
>>11634620no the retard who made that claim has his brain slowing down so the games seem faster.
>>11635279that would only be true for CD games. the data layer in a DVD is sandwiched between plastic
>>11634625Isn't it just the oscillator for the sound chip and not the oscillator for the actual CPU? IIRC the CPU's oscillator uses a quarts crystal which does not drift, but the one used for the sound chip is of a cheaper material that has since broken down a bit making it vibrate a little faster than it was meant to.But yeah, the SNES isn't really "running faster", just the sound is by a tiny amount, and everyone knows exactly why, the "nobody knows why" is some really bad clickbait considering the articles I read with the same headline explained exactly why in the very article.
>>11635042Depends on the game and hardware.I don't think you gain shit from playing NES games on real hardware, but GBA benefits a ton from it.
>>11634620So one day it'll be faster than the Genesis? Haha get fucked Sega!
>>11635868LolOK mate
>>11635897>Vapid responseUnderstood.
>>11635914>Vapid response to an empty statementseems fair to be honest
>>11635917There's nothing empty about saying that a system with no distinct hardware features offers little by way of using the actual hardware and the reverse.As long as you're playing on a CRT, you're getting the NES experience. Meanwhile, on GBA, you're just not getting a display with the right display res and speaker quality and the intended lack of brightness the sprite art of several games was built around via emulation.This isn't difficult stuff.
>>11635925Sure it is, your subjective preference is not an objective factstop acting like it is
>>11635925GBA looks way too garish on any kind of normal display. And even if you use color correction a lot of those games have those annoying ghost trails for your character that can't be removed. It looks best on a front lit gba sp.
>>11635930Captain Autism over here.>>11635938I think some games work best on the base, unlit unit. Golden Sun, Magical Vacation, Sabre Wulf, Harmony of Dissonance, Mega Man Battle Network 1-3, etc. Most stuff from late 03 and on is best with a backlight though, yeah.I've got a frontlit SP and a ITA modded base GBA. The SP works best for the games that were very specifically tuned for the unlit and frontlit screens. The ITA works for everything else.
Ideally GBA would get a screen that lets you swap between color modes on the fly so you can just fucking get it LOOKIN GOOD every time
>>11634620Le.spoopy YouTube video with voice over from le anti social nerd
>>11635943>Captain Autism over here.>talks about colour spaces on GBAuh huh
>>11634620For me, it's the GameCube
>>11635938Shut the fuck up retard.
>>11635108China Peak in California. This anon here: >>11635118 wasn't me. I can get friends and even relatives who will be interested in playing retro games if I hook up a console. But I rarely meet anyone in public who is interested in retro games. And every single one who says they are will suddenly run for the hills when the opportunity to play a retro game presents itself.>>11635107>>11635113>screams autism/sperg because I insulted e-celebsGo back to pretending to care about retro games. Someone might believe you one day.
So I should buy the last production model SNES Jr., right?
>>11636035Is China Peak full of obnoxious Aussies?
>>11636035Just don't make people play autistic romhacks lol
>>11634620Yes
>>11636221wtf?Why is Australia catching random flak
>>11636349I mean because I know a bunch of douchebag Aussies who went over on working holidays and did working stints at Canadian and American ski slopes
>>11636354Can’t handle the bants I guess
>>11635860doors and at least one kind of hazard are synced to sound effects
>>11635962Yeah, basic hobby discussion vs thinking someone is proclaiming facts and not opinions because they didn't append "imo" to their post.
>>11636035When someone says "oh boy I love retro games!" they're probably inviting you to show them a game they've not seen before, not fucking Mario.
>>11635104>loads up a bootleg fan made mario instead of the real SMWId run away too
>>11635984The super Nintendo is almost as fast as the gamecube now
>>11635104>Invite someone to play games with you>Boot up a game that isn't actually multiplayer
>>11634620Self augmenting technology. Future generations will be able to play Morrowind on SNES.
>>11636221Nah, mostly local Cali fags and a lot of South Americans on J1 work visa's. The J1's are mostly rich kids from South America on vacation who are "working" so their parents get off their back. The locals are a mix of stoner kids from around the state and the mountain folk who live locally around China Peak. If you are looking for people actually interested in playing retro games, I recommend retro-focused arcades. People go there specifically to play retro games, and most of them are willing to play anything from what I've seen.>>11636806>implying that makes a differenceI've tried all sorts of games. Co-op beat-em-ups, racing games, fighting games, platformers, people just aren't interested. I can even get relatives interested in playing Sega Marine Fishing with the fishing rod controller on Dreamcast, but I tried that one year at a ski lodge in Colorado, and no one was even interested in trying out the game. It's as casual-friendly a game as you can get, has very good graphics that have aged well, and doesn't require a new player to read the manual before they can play. Not one person was interested, including the four guys who just spent an hour talking about AVGN and how much they love retro games.A large part of the retro game community is a bunch of posers who want people to think they like retro games, when they will never touch one willingly. Given how many people felt personally attacked enough by my comment to scream autism, makes me think more than a few people here are a part of that crowd.
>>11635104>bring game to work>can't understand why people fuck off to go work instead of playhow many goodboy points do you have left for the day? if you're a boy you'll spend them all on tendies.
>>116351045 minutes is a long time for an adult play anything when not sitting on a couch at home. how long did you expect them to stay?
Yo
>>11635104>SMW romhackyour autism scared them off
>>11634728Silence, emutranny
