Anyone who still thinks Mario 64 is a good never tried to get 100 coins in Tick Tock Clock
>the game sucks when I intentionally force myself to play the optional missions I don't like Kill yourself
>>12160051I remember white knuckling my way through this with the official guide at my side, on a rental copy no less. I swear I'd never do it again after I accomplished it. One of my prouder gaming moments. I wish I had that same insane drive for gaming I did when I was 12.
>>12160054Why are you so shit? I'm older than you and can easily beat games from when I was a kid in a fraction of the time.
>>12160068I can beat 8-bit games no problem. Early 3D stuff lacks precision in their controls.
>good game BAD>because one of the optional courses was too hard for meYou should seek Canadian healthcare, NOW.>>12160072SM64 has very good movement precision.
100 coins in hazy maze cave was my least favorite star
>>12160051I got every star and enjoyed it. I'm replaying it right now in fact. Sorry that you aren't up to the challenge, lil bro.
>>12160051if picking up coins in a stage you can retry infinitely with no enemies trying to kill you is your idea of hard then wait until you play literally any other game.
>>12160072mario 64 has super precise controls if you know what you're doing (which you shoud once you get through the last star door)>>12160080dire dire docks 100 is my least favorite because there's barely enough and swimming/poles just feel worse than normal platforming
>>12160080Hazy Mazy Cave in it's entirety is the worst level in the game. They're all a bit shit after the first floor of the castle though.
>>12160051TTC is one of the high points in Mario 64. It actually requires platforming skills and there are a number of ways to make your ascencion to the upper parts of the level quicker. Im sorry that youre bad at the game OP.
>>12160145>>12160076Mario 64 controls like shit and has a lot of issues and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't. I hate the way he shuffles around in place when you just want to turn around, I hate how heavy he feels to just simply move, I hate the unreliable wall jump, I hate the way you get knocked back like getting hit in fucking Castlevania if you jump and simply brush up against a wall, I hate the shitty fucking camera that just tells you "No" when you try to move it the way you want it, it all fucking sucks ass. Also this is one of the only games I have ever played that consistently shits itself for no discernible reason, I don't care that it's an early 3D game, 90% of the time when interacting with a ledge of any kind Mario spasms up and down it for several seconds and usually ends with you falling to your death. Not to mention invisible walls randomly materializing literally out of thin air.It's okay to like Mario 64, it was revolutionary for the time and set the standard for 3D platformers and basically invented the genre. I am however sick to fucking death of everyone pretending it's this flawless masterpiece and like nothing better has ever come out. It's dated and has a lot of issues. Almost everything else that came after it is better, even just on the N64 itself.
>>12160051>tried to get>triedholy shit dude it's a game for children
>>12160192translation:>massive skill issuemario cannot be tamed by weak feminine zoomer hands such as yours.
120 stars is a joke compared to GoldenEye cheats and star fox bazooka. You guys suck at videogames.
>>12160051skill issue
>>12160051Dire dire docks is way more annoying from what I remember, since that stage barely even has 100 coins in it.
>>12160051Lol I think I have to agree. Did this earlier this year.
>>12160051>this game isn't good because I don't win easilysad!
>>12160051I did get 100 coins in the clock level and I still think it's a great game.
>>12160192>I hate the way he shuffles around in place when you just want to turn around,skill issue, lightly move the stick>I hate how heavy he feels to just simply movethat's half the appeal. go play any of the floaty mascot platformers that tried to rip off sm64>I hate the unreliable wall jumpit's reliably 5 frames every time >I hate the way you get knocked back like getting hit in fucking Castlevania if you jump and simply brush up against a wall,skill issue, don't bonk camera and invisible walls are valid complaints though
>>12160192banjo kazooie is the perfect 3d platformer
It’s less tedious than Rainbow Ride’s 100 coins.
>>12160395The only improvement subsequent Mario games had on controls was making the walljimp more clear and easy to pull off. The walljimp in SM64 does kinda suck ass and doesn't telegraph well. 5 frames is not much to work with
>>12160531i prefer the challenge of 5 frames, but it is bugged where only the first frame wall kick preserves momentum when it's intended to gradually decrease on each subsequent frame
>>12160076>SM64 has very good movement precision.
>>12160068This, I replayed the game for the All Stars collection on Switch, I got all 120 in an afternoon. Even courses I was dreading like the sky world weren't bad.
>>12160192All critiques are correct
>>12160192Don't disagree with any of this, and I even like Mario 64. I've noticed an odd phenomenon. I feel like early 3D stuff has "aged poorly". It's just all has nagging issues I can't get over. I do not feel this way about 2D games at all. Super Mario Bros feels like a timeless masterpiece to me. 64 just feels sorts of awkward and clunky
>>12160540Just because you're dog shit at the game doesn't mean it doesn't have good movement controls
>>12160578I don't even hate the game either but it's insane to me how hard people are willing to die to say the controls and physics are flawless and perfect. I blame speedrunners and the autists that watch them for poisoning every discussion of this game thats taken place over the past 15 years. Retards watch the speedrunners do crazy shit and assume that the controls are just that good and thats how everyone can and should be playing and don't consider that anyone could possibly just be casually playing.I think proof enough of this insane weird bias Mario 64 fans have is that they will never mention how dogshit the camera is but because its socially acceptable to hate Mario Sunshine theyll openly cry about that games camera even though its fully controllable at all times and never gets stuck on anything and is unquantifiably better than 64. Just ridiculous Mario 64 fans need to grow the fuck up lol.
grandpas having issues with 3d environments
>>12160052>Because its optional its okay that it sucksThey could have just not made something that sucks
>>12160051nah, TTC is a top 3 stage for me since it focuses on tight platforming. I always enjoy it. and you can just hop in at midnight if youre a scrub.>b-but its repetitivedont care
>>12160192all valid except complaints except mario having momentum which is objectively better (also why smb1 physics>>>>all the other 2d games)and its still the best 3d platformer ever made anyway. not even close.
>>12160561>, I got all 120 in an afternoon.get a job
>>12160540>hates SM64>has nigger tranny saved on HDDI feel like these things are correlated.
>>12160192>Mario 64 controls like shitStopped reading there. Git gud, brah.
>>12160608They kinda act like this with the N64 in general. I think it has something to do with the age range someone who uses 4chan nowadays. Like the N64 is in their nostalgic sweet spot or something.
>>12160051100 coins for the clock and rainbow ride are the best missions in the game
>>12160608damn bitch why are you crying so hard because a lot of people enjoy something that you can't?instead of spending your time trying to spread your misery to those unaffected, go find something you like and spread your joy about that
>>12160405banjo-kazooie has almost no platforming
>>12160837>(((critical theorist)))>capable of joyfucking lmao
>>12160192>Also this is one of the only games I have ever played that consistently shits itself for no discernible reasonwat>90% of the time when interacting with a ledge of any kind Mario spasms up and down it for several seconds and usually ends with you falling to your deathwat>invisible walls randomly materializing literally out of thin airw a tare all the replies saying "9001% correct!!!11" samefagging? because it smells like it
>is a goodWhat? Is it not a good because of this? It's just not a product anymore because of this shit?
>>12160578>aged poorlyHoly fucking yawn what a meaningless phrase. The game hasn't changed, and the changing expectations of the average player has no bearing on the quality of the game. I beg you, remove this buzzphrase from your vocabulary
>>12160935cope
>>12160857*laughs in Click Clock Wood*
>>12160857it might not have many bottomless pits but there is definitely plenty of platforming
>>12160192>see an essay starting with "Mario 64 controls like shit">ctrl+f camera>one resultThank goodness, I won't have to read this shit, because I know it's retarded pc-cattle or a misguided zoomer.
>>12160051I got all of the coins, cope harder. You got filtered
>>12160192lotta words to say you're an unskilled retard
>>12160051>post the actual best area in the game
>>12160206>speedrunning facility>beat time to unlock the cheat>die during the fadeout>fission mailedGoldeneye was cancerous.
>>12161527>one of the cornerstone games of speedtrooningNo shit.
>>12160731>Git gud, brah.But Miyamoto's son will struggle...
>>12160051The 3D Mario games are all shit, and only trannies defend them
>>12160935Hilarious watching /vr/ constantly seethe about something that's demonstrably true.
>>12160051rainbow ride's is worse because of the autoscroller carpets and the tightest blue coin switch in the game
>>12160908https://youtu.be/YsXCVsDFiXA?si=QCbh1zI_TXwQRPzounfortunately its real and pretending it isnt just makes you look retarded. I get hit by a few every time I go back to the game. I agree with the anon on some of that stuff and think its okay to critique the game for these things all of you guys jumping in to say hes just bad at the game and is wrong kind of proves his point
>>12160051this picture possess a negative aura...
>>12160620>everything in the game has to be good or the whole game is bad
I'm pretty sure everyone has gotten 120 stars in this game. Also, don't even remember this section, that's how easy and straightforward it is
>>12161796why did I just watch a fucking four hour documentary on super mario 64 geometry. how sad has my life become
none of the 120 stars are difficult or annoying in particular, except the wing cap star in the clock room. but theyre all really fun to get. nothing feels annoying or like padding. except that shitty wing cap star. I really wish future 3d marios were like this too, but no. their main campaigns are good but trying to actually 100% them will become an awful chore.
>>12160051>easy blue coins>easy red coins>a bunch of boxes with 10 coins>can make almost every stage hazard harmless Yeah, you fucking suck.
>>12160052this isnt /v/be nice
>>12160192This sounds like someone who has only played the game emulated on some shitty usb controller that wasn’t properly calibrated for the n64 range
>>12160051Not even that hard, retard. I bet you tried to do 100 coins with the stopped clock
>>12161527>die during the fadeoutYou died which means you lost. Get better.
>>12160051mario 64 is excellentt. 100%'d it
>>12162779I played it on real hardware with a brand new OEM controller. Been going through a ton of N64 games lately and having a blast overall, just Mario 64 is a piece of shit. I genuinely had more fun with Gex 2.
>>12161905Yes, you dumb negroid.Is a car still good if its brakes are terrible and can get you killed in an accident?
I 100%ed this game in grade school, stop being a baby OP.
>>12162983>comparing entertainment to a caryour priorities are out of whack
>>12163426>No analogies allowedShut the fuck up.
>>12163426make a food analogy>food analogymake a different analogy>lol do you really think entertainment its comparable to cars???knuckle draggers as far as the eye can see on this site.
>>12160051Sounds like you’re extra bad at baby video games made for children.
>>12163430>>12163441its a garbage analogy. a game can be enjoyable despite a bad section or level, and its purpose is just to entertain, which is subjective. A car must be fully functional to serve its purpose, there is no subjectiveness to it.
>>12160051That's one of the easier levels to get not even just 100 coins but all coins. It's more Tiny-Huge Island, Lethal Lava Land, Tall Tall Mountain and to a lesser extent maybe Rainbow Ride and Hazy Maze Cave that suck when getting all coins. Getting only 100 coins in any level is braindead easy, OP is gay
>>12160192The control is fine, it's just momentum. Mario 64 is like swinging a heavy chain around, at first it's hard but once you get the skill and rythmn it feels great and you can do great tricksThe ledge/camera/invisible wall shit is true though
>>12160051How would that reduce the quality of the game as a whole to the point where it could be considered bad? Your logical argumentation is completely cucked and raped.Anyway, I did that when I was 10 and I don't even remember doing it.
>>12160051>Mario 64 is a goodWow, it's yet ANOTHER shitty jeet ESL garbage thread.
