Why does SoulCalibur 2 feels much faster and smoother than the later games?
>Why does [x] feelPablo, you need to stop with these threads. You're not a woman. You never will be one.
around 2008 fighting games became obsessed with dramatic slowdowns, lengthy cutscene super moves and heavily increased hitstun, all of these things give you more time to recognize what's happening on screen so despite technically having the same frame data and thus general speed as earlier games, HD era fighting games take longer to actually play out
>>12161138Didn't IV nerfed the overall movement?
>>12161146And you need to quote things properly if you intend to use language for your pathetic little inferiority complex kneejerks.God, I hate fat people.
>>12161138You can play as Link!!
>>12161159Games became focused on being more fun to watch than to play
>>12161138I like being able to play as Link. Simple as. The only games I play are this and Ocarina.
>>12161138That's a five OP.
>>12161297Not Majora's Mask?
>>12161171SC4 is generally considered as the slowest game in the series
>>12161138God, SC2 still looks incredible. Look at the detail on her costume and her shoulder piece moving slightly.As much as I like SC6, there's something about it that makes the game look cheap despite its modern graphics and beautiful art direction. Like it lacks a type of polish that 2 has, and I'm not sure what it is, but I can tell whenever I play these games.4 has a little bit of this lack of polish as well, just not as much as 6, both still and play great though.
>>12162204SOVL. Simple as. SOVL Calibur 2 has SOVL.
>>12161138>Why does SoulCalibur 2 feels much faster and smoother than the later games?you might feel this way because there's very few things going on mechanically. guard impact wars are also frequent and that changes the pace.functional air control and 8 way run side steps add to the smoothness that sc5/sc6 ruined. sc is basically 2d street fighter with side steps now.gameplay wise sc4 pre-update is the best imo. on the game's release throws beat "just" impacts. its basically sc2 without the guard impact trades.its a damn shame they ruined that in the first patch, but at least all the dlc works regardless.
>>12161138It doesn’t
>>12162235lolno>guard impactcompletely useless due to 2G bug>functional air control and 8 way run side steps add to the smoothness that sc5/sc6 ruinedcompletely false>sc is basically 2d street fighterLOL, No, no it is not, you don't play fighting games
>>12162210ok soul, but there has to be an actual explanation for it, it's not just a feeling.
>>12162254>this feeling is not just a feelingNo, it is. You think feelings are somehow less or lesser because they cannot be described because you have had your brain rotted by the poison of (((materialism))). SOVL is SOVL. It neither requires nor allows for further explanation.
>>12162249not that anon but at least explain why for those that don't know
>>12162262Maybe for other things, but for this I disagree, clearly something was lost in translation after SC3, besides Sovl.
Bumping this thread because of that obnoxious faggot spamming his shit again.Ivy Sex.
>>12162343I fucking love BOOBS
>>12161138we should be asking rhe same questions about the boobs
>>12162343I recognize Ivy, but who's the other hole?
>>12162419She's Dora, a character from Queen's Blade: Spiral Chaos. That animation is from the sequel, Queen's Gate: Spiral Chaos. The difference between "Blade" and "Gate" is that "Gate" uses licensed characters, like Ivy, Mai Shiranui, Lily (Tekken), Iroha (SamSho) and others.
Didn't SC2 have full 8 way directional movement? It's very different to how other 3D fighters work. And it should have been standardised I feel
>>12162343sauce?
>>12162343
>>12162160No, Majora's Mask is a disgrace and poorly designed.
>>12162618Queen's Gate Spiral Chaos
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>>12161146>PabloThere's no pablos in Brazilian and cartels don't like lgbt aside the current president
>>12162715>look up gameplay >SRW with teatsdamn, i was hoping it was Namco x Capcom 1.5 or arena fighter
I don't like the movesets in Soul Calibur II (its the most complicated of any Soul Calibur game and probably not necessarily for a good reason) and the Guard Impact system is the least intuitive.
>>12162204afaik SCVI had a very little budget to work with because Bamco had zero faith on the series after SCV, it's incredible that the game still looks good despite that.
>>12163365Its not SC2 is pretty simple, 3, 4,5 and 6 are all vastly more complicated>and the Guard Impact system is the least intuitiveOnly because of a bug that renders it functionally useless.
Going ps2 exclusive on SC3 fucked up the momentum. SC was on track to be as big as Tekken if Namco had treated it as such.
>>12163376they keep sabotaging SC for tekken because they can't force esports growth the same way they did with tekken. SC didn't need shit like meter and supers like they stuffed into tekken.
>>12163563SC2 is the only game that I believe had 8WR attacks that only worked in one direction (so Nightmare had unique attacks assigned to both 9A and 3A). I believe all the other Soul Calibur games don't care which way you're 8WR'ing if you're going to do something, it's always the same attack.
>>12162698But you can play as Link.
>>12163590SC had meter before tekken you retarded faggot tourist
>>12162698thats a bummerthe dungeons are actually pretty fun
>>12163887My mistake nigger, tekken 7 is 10 years old and I forget they were trying to copy street fighter with soul calibur 4 first like everyone fucking else did at the time (and still is). Don't try and be a disingenuous faggot and try to bring up the guard bar from soul edge either.
>>12163887What he said is still true, bamco can't foster an esports scene on the same scope as tekken with SC so they leave it to die every time they release one and go "look, no profit". That said 3 is still my favorite, loved chronicles of the sword and I'm surprised nintendo hasn't commissioned bamco for a SC clone for fire emblem using that very same gamemode as a base.
>>12164019The very first game in the series had meter, you dumb underage cocksucking tourist
>>12164035>What he said is still trueIts not
>>12162204>filenamethat's a giant woman according to japanese people. she's taller than siegfried, anyway. (before they retconned him to be taller than her by like half an inch in the newest games lol)
>>12161138My personal theory is that most fighting games on the 360/ps3 era got slowed down significantly due to how poor the latency was on early HD televisions, Smash Bros Melee didn't even have an input buffer it just processed the input on press, Brawl did and is a much slower game to account for it.What we should really want from current fighting games is 120hz options being widely implemented, I know Samurai Shodown does it.
>>12163590fgc killed fg, many such cases
>>12164357lmao, aww
>>12164379nope. soul caliber 3 is slower than soul caliber 2, i've tested this on an ordinary CRT television. the programming is different.
Favorite SC songs?hard mode: No Wind Stagehttps://files.catbox.moe/9rq7r0.mp4
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>>12165152Dunno what that means but anyway.https://youtu.be/fOzNXE17_oI?si=XBvZunvo-ZLj9XDKhttps://youtu.be/-CWywLxwQw8?si=q94sgPO-1tT9QXVnI thought it was real cool of Namco to have both of these in III (although if I'm being honest the SC1 version of "The New Legend" is definitely better).
>>12162204Referring to a "British Empire" in the 16th century irritates me.
>>12162698thats a hot take. Its a challanging design but not a poor one. I can understand being mad that such an obtuse game is the follow up.
>>12164357heh
>>12162278It was CALIBER
>>12166043Sole Caliber?
>>12161138Tits too small.
>>12165152https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ec6FRL1dw4's OST if the best.
>>12163563>Its not SC2 is pretty simple, 3, 4,5 and 6 are all vastly more complicatedSC5 is not vastly more complicated. Movesets were gutted to the point characters like Ivy had no stances.
>>12161138>Why does SoulCalibur 2 feels much faster and smoother than the later games?SC6 is faster than SC2.
>>12168003If life gives you lemons...
>>12161138In SC III they nerfed the 8-way run speed because stepping was too powerful in SC II. It was possible to step many horizontals. Attacks in SC III are still much faster than in later games. In SC IV they made both the 8-way run and attacks slower because that was the first game with online support and it was their way to mitigate latency issues, but it made it less fun to play. SC V increased the 8-way run speed a little bit, but kept the slow frame data on attacks. SC VI brought the 8-way run speed back to SC II levels, but also kept the slow frame data. It's possible to cover a decent chunk of distance with 8-way run even in a time span of a relatively quick attack and Namco's netcode has not improved at all since IV, which means that telling what will hit and when in that game is difficult. They were forced to add a bunch of "suck to opponent" retracking for half the moves to "fix" it in Season 2.
>>12161159The frame advantage values on block, hit and counter don't tell the whole story about frame data because it's possible to increase block and hit stuns for both the attacker and defender by the same amount and end up with a move that takes more total frames to display but is just as (un)safe. This makes reacting to moves easier so it's theoretically better for online gameplay, but it also makes the game play slower.
>>12167250Not true. SC6 has a bunch of extra recovery time on most moves that makes the game play slower and whiff punishes easier to get than SC2. See >>12169982 and >>12169996 .
