What's the most complex retro game?
>>12165175Romance of Three Kingdoms
>>12165175for control/movement PES 5 and it's not even close
>>12165175>What's the most complexFuck if I know, nor do I care because it probably isn't fun to playShout out to Ogre Battle 64 though. Took me awhile to get comfortable with it, and the amount of hidden mechanics/secrets I read about online surprised me.>Fucking different gifts for every year if you visit a place on your chosen birthday
>>12165175FF8, since retards clearly have so much trouble understanding it.
>>12165175Anything with tank controls that isn't controlling a tank
>>12165274Spend time make number bigNever use magicMagic make number go 100 to 99 UNACCEPTABLEBAD GAME
pathologic
>>12165289more like pseudo-complex for the sake of being pretentious
>>12165319lol filtered by easy game
This thread lacks complexity and is useless.
>>12165175Probably some wargame. Grigsby's War in the Pacific (2004) had a 214 page manual for example.
>>12165321>easy gamethank for agreein me with me, PaTURDlogic is piss easy and shallow slop trying so hard to present itself as ''complex'' and ''deep''
Romance gamesPTO 1 and 2Mercenary IIIElite (1984)
>>12165329retard :)i don't argue with retards :)bye bye
>>12165175>What's the most complex retro game?Lords of midnight or warzone 2100, or stuff like kingdoms total anihilation,empire earth civilisation etc. Strategy/management genre.
>>12165412yeah old flight sims were fairly complex shit like microsoft flight sims or the microprose flight sims or gunship games
>>12165175Frontier : Elite 2 if you went for full manual flight autism
as a kid:>XCOMfound it super hard and confusing>Vagrant Storyyes the game gives you a manual but there's still too many weapon and build customization options along with the weird risk system and chaining attacks/defenses with QTE element>Lords of the Realm IIthe abstracted fighting didn't make sense to me compared to my experiences in RTS like Age of Empires>Mechwarriorthe tilt towards simulation confused me, who just wanted an arcade mech shooter
>>12165175>>12165187>>12165265>>12165439arguably Yggdra Union and most card-based games imo...
>>12165175Go.
pokemon emerald
>>12165175Dwarf Fortress and it's not even up for debate. that game is the single most mechanically complex game ever made.>n-not ret-check the release date faggot
>>12165850>check the release date faggotdone
>>121658502022 isn't retro, not even close
>>12165175final fantasy
>>12165175Virtua Fighter 4
>>12166036>>12166039>dumb zoomers can't comprehend a time before steamgrim
>>12165175Probably a flight sim or a strategy game from the 90's.
>>12165175Tetris
Taboo: The Sixth Sense. It taps into the mystic, drawing infinite complexity into itself. You could literally ask it what the most complex game is. You could ask it anything. And it WILL provide an answer, for those who have the eyes to see it.
Out of games I personally have played - probably Dominions III, Civilization IV, or Yu-Gi-Oh WCT 2006.
>>12166103You'd think so, given how many questions we get about it around here.
>>12165368Lol neither does he, it seems
>>12166410Oh or Dwarf Fortress, I forgot I played that once. And yeah that's got to be a good candidate at least. (I don't know enough about it to endorse the claim offered in >>12165850 .)
>>12165175haha OP I love froggo XD
>>12165175hard to top the legend of mana's smithing/crafting....
>>12166323fair
Nothing comes close to its density, complexity or depth
>>12166837B A S E D
>>12165850Might as well say classic unmodded Nethack.
>>12166036retard
>>12166837How is it deep if you have to play it mostly the same way each time?
>>12165175vampir for the ps1
Given that PS2 era stuff now apparently counts, it isn't really that hard to find insanely complex PC games from the early-mid 2000s.
What about sims like Falcon? Are they really that complex?
>>12168006Sure, though I'm guessing 75% of that book is take off and landing.
>>12167669alphas are not full releases and do not count
>>12167886You don't and the fact you say this proves you never played it
>>12168476>i-it doesn't count because...it just doesn't!
>>12165175
>>12165175The correct answer is Harpoon.>>12165326Also a contender.