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What's the most complex retro game?
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>>12165175
Romance of Three Kingdoms
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>>12165175
for control/movement PES 5 and it's not even close
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>>12165175
>What's the most complex
Fuck if I know, nor do I care because it probably isn't fun to play

Shout out to Ogre Battle 64 though. Took me awhile to get comfortable with it, and the amount of hidden mechanics/secrets I read about online surprised me.
>Fucking different gifts for every year if you visit a place on your chosen birthday
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>>12165175
FF8, since retards clearly have so much trouble understanding it.
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>>12165175
Anything with tank controls that isn't controlling a tank
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>>12165274
Spend time make number big
Never use magic
Magic make number go 100 to 99 UNACCEPTABLE
BAD GAME
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pathologic
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>>12165289
more like pseudo-complex for the sake of being pretentious
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>>12165319
lol filtered by easy game
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This thread lacks complexity and is useless.
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>>12165175
Probably some wargame. Grigsby's War in the Pacific (2004) had a 214 page manual for example.
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>>12165321
>easy game
thank for agreein me with me, PaTURDlogic is piss easy and shallow slop trying so hard to present itself as ''complex'' and ''deep''
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Romance games
PTO 1 and 2
Mercenary III
Elite (1984)
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>>12165329
retard :)
i don't argue with retards :)
bye bye
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>>12165175
>What's the most complex retro game?
Lords of midnight or warzone 2100, or stuff like kingdoms total anihilation,empire earth civilisation etc. Strategy/management genre.
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>>12165412
yeah old flight sims were fairly complex shit like microsoft flight sims or the microprose flight sims or gunship games
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>>12165175
Frontier : Elite 2 if you went for full manual flight autism
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as a kid:
>XCOM
found it super hard and confusing
>Vagrant Story
yes the game gives you a manual but there's still too many weapon and build customization options along with the weird risk system and chaining attacks/defenses with QTE element
>Lords of the Realm II
the abstracted fighting didn't make sense to me compared to my experiences in RTS like Age of Empires
>Mechwarrior
the tilt towards simulation confused me, who just wanted an arcade mech shooter
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>>12165175
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>>12165439
arguably Yggdra Union and most card-based games imo...
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>>12165175
Go.
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pokemon emerald
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>>12165175
Dwarf Fortress and it's not even up for debate. that game is the single most mechanically complex game ever made.

>n-not ret-
check the release date faggot
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>>12165850
>check the release date faggot
done
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>>12165850
2022 isn't retro, not even close
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>>12165175
final fantasy
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>>12165175
Virtua Fighter 4
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>>12166039
>dumb zoomers can't comprehend a time before steam
grim
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>>12165175
Probably a flight sim or a strategy game from the 90's.
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>>12165175
Tetris
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Taboo: The Sixth Sense. It taps into the mystic, drawing infinite complexity into itself. You could literally ask it what the most complex game is. You could ask it anything. And it WILL provide an answer, for those who have the eyes to see it.
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Out of games I personally have played - probably Dominions III, Civilization IV, or Yu-Gi-Oh WCT 2006.
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>>12166103
You'd think so, given how many questions we get about it around here.
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>>12165368
Lol neither does he, it seems
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>>12166410
Oh or Dwarf Fortress, I forgot I played that once. And yeah that's got to be a good candidate at least. (I don't know enough about it to endorse the claim offered in >>12165850 .)
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>>12165175
haha OP I love froggo XD
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>>12165175
hard to top the legend of mana's smithing/crafting....
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>>12166323
fair
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Nothing comes close to its density, complexity or depth
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>>12166837
B A S E D
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>>12165850
Might as well say classic unmodded Nethack.
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>>12166036
retard
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>>12166837
How is it deep if you have to play it mostly the same way each time?
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>>12165175
vampir for the ps1
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Given that PS2 era stuff now apparently counts, it isn't really that hard to find insanely complex PC games from the early-mid 2000s.
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What about sims like Falcon? Are they really that complex?
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>>12168006
Sure, though I'm guessing 75% of that book is take off and landing.
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>>12167669
alphas are not full releases and do not count
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>>12167886
You don't and the fact you say this proves you never played it
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>>12168476
>i-it doesn't count because...it just doesn't!
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>>12165175
The correct answer is Harpoon.
>>12165326
Also a contender.
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