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I would like to play in an alive / persistent world that has true darkness.
Could WoW be that? WoW 2 with a new engine?
I want the 80s/90s dark fantasy back.
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>>3486479
You can see through the growth of WoW that they really decided their main audience were 9 year-olds.
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>>3486487
I remember being 9 yo and I wasn't that retarded back then.
Plus, kids this days don't have money for subscription + expansions + cosmetics + market + classic...
This are adults with 4 yo brains.
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>>3486505
The developers, or more likely the higher executive team who didn't know what a vidya game was, thought their playerbase were children. Doesn't mean they were right.
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>>3486514
And who allowed those retards in the first place?
I get that executives may not be gamers, but dude at least know in what market are you going to work.
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>>3486479
There was one "horror" MMORPG that was basically that. The world was fucked and players had some kind of monster within they could unleash and eat their enemies to gain more powers.
Don't remember the name.
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>>3486479
I don't think so. WoW got fucked by Blizzards new artstyle that affected all their games. Hilariously, Pandaria was the last "dark" style leaning expansion graphics wise before Warlords and especially legion went full chunky mobile style. That kind of proves that you don't even need to have a deliberately dark fantasy setting for more spicy designs.
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>>3486792
I think part of the artstyle problem is also that early (pre-Great Graphics Engine Update) wow was able to get away with the more cartoony, unrealistic proportions because shit had less polygons. WotLK was still running an engine that was made to work on the average PC in 2003.
The more limitations you place on graphics, the more stylised they become to work within those limitations. It's why the GBA advance wars sprites have more soul than the reboot camp models.
But you take that level of "cartoony abstraction" and update everything to have modern game model detail and texture quality and suddenly you get modern wow. The dragons are a really telling thing, though, that they have also 100% hired scalie artists, which is a dumbfuck move.
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>>3486479
I mean you can try and be as dark as you want but it's always gonna spoil the moon when most of your player base is pushing how far they can get their name past the built in censor, stripping down to their underwear and spamming the dance emote
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>>3486792

they shat the bed with wc3: wc1, wc2, diablo 1 & diablo 2 are dark fantasy, and sc is dark space fantasy
they were products of the time in which they were produced though, most of the pop culture for nerds at the time of their creation went for that kind of dark aesthetic (look at the crpgs, doom, alien, etc) because that's what was popular
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>>3486479
>"death knight" then
>"dark fantasy" wow
millennials lol
You're part of the problem.
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>>3486792
true
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>>3488161
Are you stupid? Both characters are from the same game, practically an expansion of difference.
Why /tg/ has the worst posters on this site?
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>>3488231
>Lord Soth is from wow
You must be one of those cut off date millennials that's nearly a zoomer.
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>>3486479
Armor on the right looks cool not going to lie
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>>3488306
>left: overly designed early 2000's edgelordism
>no context
>no sense of a world to belong to, just a collection of randomized fantasy features, might as well be AI
>no story
>right
>2015-2020 overly designed inclusionlordism, why can't a death knight be a shining argent paladin or whatever the fuck that cartoon is supposed to be

Both are in fact, garbage.
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>>3486843
True, that's why multiplayer by proxy like DD2 is the generally the way to go, it's just still undercooked. Maybe keep a small co op invite only system so you don't have to suffer retards but with better and more organic matchmaking.
>people will still try to populate the game with shitty meme models and dumb names but you could restrict character creation more, and/or have a vote system to remove them

For example: It's always been cool to see since DD1 someone's character they actually put work into pop up as you're wandering around out in the regular world, and they kept that in DD2. Hired more than a few pawns that way.
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>>3486842
WoW's artstyle changed because the team changed. Chris Metzen and Samwise Didier did the art for the RTS trilogy and early WoW, but eventually Metzen stopped doing art, and Samwise Didier transferred from the WoW dev team to HotS and then retired. Mark Gibbons who did the fantastic raid tier sets from Wrath through MoP left to follow Ghostcrawler to Riot. Wei Wang who did the awesome faction leader art left to go freelance. Alex Horley was always a freelancer and wound up drawing more art for Hearthstone than for WoW after WoD. And so on. Now look at who they were replaced by. Look at Ariel Fain, the tranny Dracthyr artist's twitter. He doesn't have a taste for 80s powermetal album covers or pulp fantasy novel covers or roided men. He draws tumblr scalies.

If you want a high production value high fantasy RPG with powermetal album cover aesthetics, then you are out of luck. It's 2024. All Western devs with the money have been converged by leftists through the HR departments, and Asian devs don't have a taste for powermetal album cover aesthetic at all. The closest you get is FromSoft's Souls aesthetic and that's it.
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>>3488319
That explains all the gaydar alert I got from Anduin but it weirdly seemed like they were taking their damn time about "outing" him way past the time anyone actually cared about WoW anymore.

So he's gay now right?
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>>3488326
Not yet, but according to that forum user's end of 2022 post, there is a loud clique within Blizzard that is pushing for it and is trying to oust people in their way.
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>>3486479
Dark sun mmo or nothing
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>>3488328
>not yet
Wow must be still some OG grogs hanging on still in Blizz. Not that I care about their garbage lore much less wow at all now but it's weird and amusing.
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>>3488161
>Kitiara
Fuck that bitch. Laurana the true lancewife.
Pic related.
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>>3488161
B A S E D
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>>3488319
Oh. Well then.
God I hate the slow creep of "we must portray all worlds like THIS or we're not accepting and that makes us evil"
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>>3486479
Not exactly fantasy, but The Secret World, SMT: Imagine, and EVE Online all sort of fill that dark 90s vibe. They're all mostly dead though.
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>>3489296
>The Secret World
I miss it, /v/ros.
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>>3488319
The art style wasn't great at the start either. It was noted for its outdated and low quality assets. Now they call it timeless.
I remember in another multiplayer game in the mid 00s and they imported wow models for weapons, but they always looked like toys.
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>>3488319
Wow and Warcraft 3 were a really special blend of Metzen and Samwise. If you look at Metzen's art it's all super masculine, comic book hero proportioned, grim dark warriors and blood. Metal album covers as you describe.

Samwise on the other hand is like someone read a bunch of Conan the Barbarian stories growing up, but was also a cartoonist. He somehow blends muscle bound beefy warriors with a very elegant and almost cartoony exaggeration of form.

When you combine Metzen and Samwise you get that perfect mix of over the top stylized, but still cool that Warcraft 3 and Early WoW captured. No other game has ever hit that blend as well as those two games.

One unexpected benefit of the stylized forms is that they read SUPER cleanly from far away and that made WoW the most successful at visual communication of all the MMOs.
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>>3486479
>wow
>wow 2
i hope the mmo industry keeps getting worse and worse and never dies to be reborn until you grow old and die you fucking faggot
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>>3486479
They're boring.
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>>3486479
True darkness involves loneliness. A community based game seems pretty antithetical to that. The best I can think of is having towns that are relatively bright and but every dungeon be spoopy.
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>>3493060
I always wanted to play an MMO where the atmosphere was truly oppressive. I mean setting foot outside without a strong group got you killed level of oppressive.
Players absolutely forced to work together to do anything, and furthermore if they didn't work together to keep their outposts and bases maintained, AI would build goblin tunnels, wraith tombs etc. around them and crush them right back to the starting point over time.

There would be no artificial raid points, no content timelines. New content would just be built on top of the oppression pyramid and players would not even be informed as to what it was with as much kept from the clients as possible to prevent datamining technique. If they got reset back to the start because they let Goldshire overrun, so be it, no new content for months until they built back to the proper launching points and state of fantasy civilization to be able to take it on.

In fact they would get stalked within most "safe" towns without some precautions, base defense and supply logistics would give lower level players something to do to get stronger before they went out on expansion raids.

No PVP as the enemies would be so oppressively programmed to be stalking you like players you wouldn't need it.
It can be done since there were quake bots that were capable of chasing people through maps and sniping them off ladders at the tiniest of angles back in the late 90s.
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>>3493076
Sounds like a Minecraft server. Players build the towns, GMs spawning monster invasions to tear them down.
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>>3493076
Would be cool but PVP should exist and players allying with some AI faction too to defeat other players or AI (and later betray it because why not), with AI being more "intelligent" games could truly become a Game of Thrones.
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>>3488277
You're stupid, I was talking about the OP's image.
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>>3488312
Yes, you are a faggot
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>>3488380
CRINGE
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>>3488161
I'm not a millennial. But WoW is the most popular fantasy MMORPG, if we want Dark-Fantasy back, we need some popular to do it.
And when WoW was Warcraft was cool because the dark-fantasy influence from 90s Warhammer Fantasy.
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>>3489758
>Samwise on the other hand is like someone read a bunch of Conan the Barbarian stories growing up, but was also a cartoonist. He somehow blends muscle bound beefy warriors with a very elegant and almost cartoony exaggeration of form.
Speaking of which Age of Conan was linda there. But "dark fantasy" almost always turns into "brown and spikey" as made by people who don't know how to design armor any other way.
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>>3486479
Define "dark fantasy"
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WoW is the worst possible choice to try and turn into dark fantasy. It has never even tried to be like that. From the very beginning it was a lighthearted romp filled to the brim with pop culture references.
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>>3494297
looks a bit random but I like it
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>>3494297
I like Funcom for their willingness to stick to pulp fiction but I kind of also hate them for half assing these things when they could be so much better.

Like how many good modelers have been locked into low budget and mediocre standards hell this way over time?
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>>3494319
> From the very beginning it was a lighthearted romp filled to the brim with pop culture references.
The original W3 Arthas was not about gay centaur marriage and tranny reptiles so some reddit elements have disproportionately taken over the setting over time.
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>>3493596
GMs are an ok concept but they're ultimately too biased and limited to scale to any kind of MP game popularity. You've got to have AI because you're just never going to have 1 skilled GM with the time and energy to entertain every 4 people in a party. Then they have to have no biases to give their regs easy treasure filled stuff and invalidate the whole concept of "game". Such people barely exist.
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>>3495273
What truly bothers me about dark-fantasy is that you don't need the edgy/bizarre (in a retarded way) armors to look dark, in real life you can see medieval/modern armors (picrel) that would fit in a dark-fantasy universe and the best of all is they actually protect you.

And with the rise of the AI art and coding, despite all the good things it could create, I have the bad feeling that it will be used to create the worst armors ever imagine.
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>>3488312
Based-take.
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>>3486479
It's part of the greater problem of the infantilization of the West and the appeal to childish, liberalized fantasy that exalts the fantastical over the grounded, the spectacular over the compelling, and the flashy over the depthful. Things need to be accessible, things need to always have a positive spin, things always need to be cheery and colorful, and anything "grim" or "dour" or "gritty" or "raw" is seen as white supremacist, fascist, and "adolescent" that is meant solely to appeal to old boys/young men.

Basically the genre has been hijacked by the most pansy faggots imaginable.
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>>3495478
i like that the guy that made your picture didn't call out the bikinis
i dislike that he didn't call out tigger
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>>3495276
>You've got to have AI
So like what Everquest Next was supposed to be with Storybricks?
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>>3486479
WoW is quickly becoming a MOBA
Lots of grimdark fantasy mmorpgs have been tried, most of them korean, most of them flopped
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>>3486479
MMOs have NEVER been rpgs, they're all essentially cosmetic collection slave games made for slaves to login once a week for their one drop of content (raiding)
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>>3486487
>through the growth
>implying the main audience of warcraft wasn't 9 year olds from the very beginning
massive cartoonish shoulder pads = toddler audience. no exceptions. it's the same with warhammer
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>>3495478
Finally I see some calling out those things, I thought I was the only one that hate them.
How are the retards that came with the idea of doing armor parts and weapons as useless and ridiculous as possible?
>>3495658
I play the MMOs only for the story, not the cosmetics, raids, whatever.
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>>3486479
The issue is that the story has to remain somewhat noncomittal since all players follow it. Making death knights actually evil would not make any sense given the current setting, they would be switfly kicked from the Alliance and the Horde and promptly killed.
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>>3495876
Remember the Death Knight class order hall campaign in Legion, when Bolvar ordered Mograine and friends to invade the Paladin class order hall underneath Light's Hope chapel and slaughter every paladin in their way (comrades they fight alongside with against the Lich King in Wrath) to retrieve Tirion's remains and raise him as a Four Horseman, only for Bolvar to say "just kidding!"? Remember Bolvar ordering the Deathlord to invade Ruby Life Sanctum and slaughter red dragons and the last red dragon eggs and babies there?
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>>3495671
>massive cartoonish shoulder pads
Who created that shit? He should be punished for crimes against aesthetics.
And why many people thought and still think it looks cool? It doesn't, it looks ugly and goofy.
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>>3496380
I always assumed they were copying what was popular in anime. Though it looked cool there.
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>>3495876
In Shadowlands we could had Lord Garithos back, but he was too based for current Blizztard and its cucksoomers.
>>3495886
The Scarlet Crusade was right, again.
The Argent Crusade are a bunc of cucks and deserved it. Bolvar was kind based.

https://youtu.be/XF3omoRE2EY?si=wfrJ5VMsuQ-jkbBr
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>>3496386
>coping anime
>anime, where logic and common sense go to die
>anime, jap blackhole
It's all so tiredsome. This is why 2 nukes weren't enough.
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>>3495648
Can MOBAs be grimmdark?
Also WoW its becoming more like Sims 4 than a MOBA. At least MOBAs don't have tab-combat.
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WoW is a faggot game where you're either killing animals or dicksucking the guild leader for raid drops.
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>>3486479
>I would like to play in an alive / persistent world that has true darkness.
But then how would developers sell rainbow unicorn mounts and skimpy outfits to make money?
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>>3497178
>But then how would developers sell rainbow unicorn mounts and skimpy outfits to make money?
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>>3486479
>Could WoW be that? WoW 2 with a new engine?
I don't want a WoW2. I just want it to finally die out.
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>>3486479
Dark Fantasy does not work the entire time you are logged in. You need a more complete emotional cycle
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>>3488317
fuck that, I want WoW but with only one server.
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>>3493076
That is really close to FF11, you would pull a second orc and have to run back to the castle gates to get it off your back, ruining the experience of every player between you and the door. I miss the danger of MMOs, be it player ganking or mob ganking
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>>3494131
NIGGER
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>>3486479
i don't recall darky knights having crystal nipples in my /vr/ games.
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>>3495876
This is also why MMORPGs aren't actually RPGs, there is no consequence and no reactivity for any action.
Even the slightest differences in choice like one faction having paladins and the others not having them was too much for whiny players and lazy cut and paste tuning devs.
Even the racial choices were all but removed other than cosmetically, same with the crafting bonuses.

Just a twitch gacha grinder after a while, with bad action mechanics since it's still tab target.
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>>3500345
>12 days later still mad he got clocked on not knowing who Soth was.
Damn son, you must be one of those millennials who are too stupid to feel shame.
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>>3499845
>t. retard
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>>3500690
>Even the slightest differences in choice like one faction having paladins and the others not having them was too much for whiny players and lazy cut and paste tuning devs.
>Even the racial choices were all but removed other than cosmetically, same with the crafting bonuses.
At this point, Alliance and Horde should united in a single faction, so the players can finally play another one (Scarlet Crusade, Twilight's Hammer, etc) that is actually cool.
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you guys are all in search of LOTRO. nothing comes close to being as atmospheric an mmo
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>>3510402
It's so old though, what's quality of life like? Tab target combat? The classes seemed boring? Do you actually group with people into a dungeon and play a role or just wander in an empty single player wasteland now?

If I'm going to just hang up my brain and push buttons, unironically diablo 4 I might have better odds of having a bit of mp fun than sorting through ancient cliques of grognards and archaic UI, or all the wow trannyism, and I am the eternal grog myself. Did it ever even have builds of any kind?
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>>3496387
Garithos schizos be like
>zamn, this irrelevant Disney tier villain that exists to be dunked on by the campaign protags be fire!!1!1
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>>3510639
>watching current WoW lore
Yep, Garithos was fire, unironically.
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>>3486479
You gotta no where to look
>true darkness
Maybe "Dark" isnt the point.
You want edgyness, play any sandbox MMO, youll be struck with the hard baton of ANCAPistan.
You want horror? Probably not the right genre, secret world kinda tried.
>>3494297
Conan is another good example, shit is good. But its not "Dark" fantasy, its pulp fantasy. But youll still ahve Dark Gods beeing spooky and unknowable and unwashed masses toiling under uncaring wizard kings
>>3495478
Ironically your pic related wouldve been a great MMO if they actually had the skill to get it done.
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>>3510891
to get to my point about pic related.
EQ2 will not give you the Berserk expirience. Or some dark soulsesque world.
But if you pick an evil character, espeialy if you start in Freeport, youll be in for a Dark ride.
not the heckin Star Wars dark side dark ride, even if it looks unneccesarily edgy with all the spikes.
but the low level expirience will be almost like ageneric high fantasy version of morrowind. Everyone is out to get you, every NPC is a prick. Every NPC is exploiting you.
Every Quest you do will be about stomping the shit out of some poor schmuck.
The game eventaully bought into th emodern MMO "suck off the players dick constantly" train, but this wont come online untill at the very earliest level 80, the cap at launch was 50 so theres a lot of content to do in which the game treats you as an absolute mercenary.
Specific mention goes to the RoK Expansion.
Which is an entire continent with very little in terms of a set plot.
Theres various factions you can help by doing quests for them. as a mercenary.
They all hate each other.
Every single one of them is evil. Every single one of them is some splinter group of an ancient slave taking necromancing genociding empire, every single one of them is lead by some ridiculously callous Lich.

To get this out of the way. Is everquest 2 a good game?
No.
It came out the same year as WoW and it very much is like WoW, only the game never got popular so it didnt change its formular nearly as much as WoW did, sure its got dungeon finders and stuff but it never realy took off in a wild direction.
This also means it is extremley unpolished.
Should you play it? Probably not.
Is it the Dark gritty MMO you want? Probably also not its unapologetically high fantasy.
But it might have some of the points you like.
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>>3510901
Hard CPU dependency was EQ2's mistake at the time. Then again it also looked way better than WoW if realistic visuals were your thing.
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>>3510969
it sadly aged like absolute milk
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what is the class fantasy of the "Death Knight"? I never played WoW or Warcraft so I don't know what they're all about
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>>3510891
OP here. In my case, "dark" is the point, you have MMOs about absolute everything EXCEPT true darkness (not edgyness).

I just want a world that give me "Paradise Lost / 80s rock scifi-fantasy" vibes
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>>3511055
Originally were orc witchers that lost their bodies, so by the power of the dark magic their spirits were put in the human bodies of fallen paladins.
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>>3511062
which ones ended up in a female human body, and how pissed were they?
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>>3510969
>dynamic shadows
>in 2004
goddamn
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>>3500694
>the moron still doesn't know how to read
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>>3500375
that's because it's the same game, they're both from wow
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>>3511059
oh it exists, or they tried, several times.
Maybe not sci fantasy but there was Mortal Online or what it was called that waas all about an unforgiving kinda crap world.
There was also a Korean MMO that was downrigth body horror themd, that actually had sci fi elements, i have no idea what that one was called tho.
Wasnt there also one that was basically Fallout but an MMO?
i know theres plenty MMOs out there with dark and callous worlds.
Of cours emost of them ar eshit, or all of them, its not like good MMOs are a thing that exists.
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>>3511658
That is why I hope with AI we finally get a good MMO, or at least a good MO, because if you think it, none of the so-called MMO are massive.
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>>3511673
why woudl AI help in that.
The expensive parts about MMOs are maintaining the multiplayer setup,
If anything, AI will make that worse because theres gonna be more slop competitors for a dwindling market
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>>3486479
nothing to do with MMORPGs, modern day WoW is just extremely neutered and feminized now because Blizzard and the fans failed to properly gatekeep it. it's World of Affirmationcraft now where everything is a giant HR meeting where everyone's differences are celebrated and we get to throw a big pride parade for the special dragons that use different power. it's not Warcraft anymore, period.

Metzen is a gay weepy pussy now that censored Sylvanas because one of his daughters thought her design was silly (because Warcraft isn't made to appeal to 12 year old girls, retard) so don't expect him to inject any testosterone into things either, this is just a hail mary to try to get the game to fade out on a high note instead of BfA and Shadowlands being the last impression these games make before they're put out to pasture
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>>3488319
>He draws tumblr scalies.
The dracthyr aren't even hot in ANY form, it's so fucked up.
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>>3512181
The ultimate monkeypaw.
Wanted Naga since vanilla. Got drag Queen „dragons“ with ugly females and a gangly extremely unthreatening „dragon“ form that doesn’t even show armor and can’t even play a tank class.
And now that the „scaly „ role is filled naga will never be playable
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>>3512181
>>3512539
They really are awful. I don't understand who they're meant to appeal to besides trannies. It's really weird since that gamergate tranny also drew people that looked like androgynous victoria's secret 2005 or 1975 alien twigs. They look nothing like anything else from WoW setting including the hot red dragon sloot which is the type of dragonform race people actually want to play, or some roided lizardman-esque type with cooler scales that you see in bg3.

Even the tumblr furry foxes and panda or fat fetish races are less creepy, but I guess the downhill has to accelerate a little more before people finally are uncomfortable enough to leave their boomer slot machine former d&d sim. It can't be long now, literally any competitor could take them out that actually understood what is fun about you and a few bros in a dungeon/campaign and didn't just go for the easy whale cash win.

As gay as bg3 can be it looks like the Third Reich / الثالثة الفتوى compared to that nonsense and can be a blast with a few like minded friends.
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>>3512121
>modern day WoW
Why even pretend World of Warcraft wasn't always lowbrow crap enjoyed by imbeciles?
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>>3493076
That's just lifeweb. Truly an experience, also constant threat of rape from other players.
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>>3512602
>>3512539
I've always understood WoW had kinda cartoony/simple graphics for ease of play on toasters but following the model revamp it got harder to project attractiveness onto a cartoon. This sounds like coomer logic but I'm really just asking as a person without an erection why they don't have anybody on the art team that knows how to make attractive (cute/cool/sexy, the gamut!) faces, male and female. The HotS team had them (and it's not like they're doing anything anymore).
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>>3512926
>The HotS team had them (and it's not like they're doing anything anymore).
Heroes is basically the logical way to do a visual upgrade of that art style.
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>>3499849
When he said he wants danger, he means a rabbit dashing through a field to escape a hawk, not a mindless slug crawling through an open field waiting to get picked apart by a pigeon.
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>>3511070
Back then, before the "dark ages of inclusivity", all paladins were males, so all the death knights were also male.
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>>3512121
>where everyone's differences are celebrated
>celebrating differences by making everyone EQUALLY boring, because now everyone can be whatever class they want
Kek.
>Metzen is a gay weepy pussy now that censored Sylvanas
I wish that bitch was stayed death after Wrath of the Lich King like was originally intended. Now is "Zombie Mary Sue".
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>>3512539
>>3512602
Here are your playable naga, anon.
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>>3513244
thanks doc
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>>3486505
More like 29 year old trannies and tumbler faggots with the mental capacities of an actual 9 year old.
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>>3488231
>Nu-wow is the same game as OG pre Activison wow
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>>3488319
>If you want a high production value high fantasy RPG with powermetal album cover aesthetics, then you are out of luck. It's 2024. All Western devs with the money have been converged by leftists through the HR departments, and Asian devs don't have a taste for powermetal album cover aesthetic at all. The closest you get is FromSoft's Souls aesthetic and that's it.
Don't you fucking remind me.
The fact that some of the OG's from golden DnD era are still around as well as artists like Luis Royo and NOBODY tries to work with them or at least take some inspiration from them is a fucking tragedy. Imagine entire game made in this artstyle.
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>>3496386
>>3496388
>zoomies talking about others being like kids because muh big shoulderpads

>>3495671
>it's the same with warhammer
Look at the people that played wargames in the 80s and thing again upon what you said
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>>3489296
thanks, i didn't know about smt. i love playing dead mmos as singleplayer games.
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>>3510402
thanks, anon. im planning on playing that.
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>>3510409
>empty single player wasteland
Sounds good to me. I love singleplayer MMOs.
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>>3514094
Don't get me wrong, Luis Royo has talent but those winged xenos are pretty gay.
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>>3514095
>big shoulder pads in Warhammer have sense, despite looking weird
>big shoulder pads in anime don't have fucking sense (like many other things in anime)
I get you want to be "le contrarian", anon, but at least be contrarian by making sense.
Literally anime is shit since the early 10s not just because the downgrade of its artstyle, but because is just "look cool/has big booba, consoom/cum, don't ask questions".

You have modern animes wasint half of its episodes and sometimes even more, explaining shit that we already know just by seeing what happened than explaining things that actually need to be explained and are NEVER expalined in the end.
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>>3514088
When the Scarlet Crusade was cool, those were the times...

https://youtu.be/4ORL6hml_MQ?si=_vQejOV7As30gnsN
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WoW is a Lobby based action RPG with open world elements, let's not get it twisted anon. You reach level 10 and you'll never have to leave the main city ever again.. unless of course you have to get to another main city, so you can repeat the process. WoW is a hot piece of trash that's overrun by COD players since the Activision merge.
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>>3486633
It was called Requiem.
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>>3515375
>action RPG
It's tab-combat, I wish was action-combat.

Also, I think WoW-beyond-main-cities would win a lot of attention if was like Warcraft intended, a fight for the control of the planet, instead the current UN-like pacifism bullshit.

BfA was a waste exp, imagine the warfronts actually worked and instead of being 20v20 in a little place, was the entire planet with all the players (like in Planetside 2).
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>>3515379
Why there are no more Requiem-like MMOs? I just find it today, thanks to you, and looks pretty cool.
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>>3515381
Tab target 1.0 made sense when it was representing a series of tactical decisions with powers that were different and interesting.
>sheep this, dps that, snare this, aoe that, counterspell this
Tab target 2.0 when EA got a hard on for guitar hero with powers that all became 1/16th of a firebolt or whatever while at the same time realizing they could never put true action combat into WoW due to engine limitations became trash
>don't even look at the game anymore just make your outer tunnel of addon ui garbage while ramping up 30 seconds of guitar hero rotations just to do what spamming firebolt used to with occasional pyroblast timings
>never look at the art or be invested in the phoned in story again, just buy our shit and inflate the gay pride parade numbers during quarterly review
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>>3517906
Someday players will have to break the melon (with their wallets) about corporations re-using the same over-used engine for 20 years.
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>>3514631
>those winged xenos are pretty gay.
>tfw you will never exterminate a bunch of homo demons as a sexy slut with swords Xenoblade style
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>>3514638
>but because is just "look cool/has big booba, consoom/cum, don't ask questions".
It's called style over substance
And i don't give a fuck. Most modern anime is trash indeed. But it's not because of some silly designs.
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>>3518443
>>tfw you will never exterminate a bunch of homo demons as a sexy slut with swords Xenoblade style
I get your point bro, but for once I would be cool seeing winged xenos that aren't androgynous femboys.
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>>3518445
>It's called style over substance
>But it's not because of some silly designs.
It actually cause it, its the first grain of a mountain of sand.
Every franchise that had become shit in the last 25 years, first started with a visual downgrade, it's like a "Troy Horse" to see how much devs' lazyness the cuck-soomers can tolerate.
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>>3486505
>I wasn't that retarded back then.
>This are adults
You were and still are retarded.
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>>3486479
Requiem Bloodymare captured that aesthetic perfectly. Was an amazing game at launch, then got overrun with Brazilians for being free to play.
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>>3486479
Left would look even dumber in game.
What kind of stupid mace is this?



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