>>3625534
>In addition, lie that your name, that is on the fake passport that you used to get here, is your real name. But also tell them where you hid your fake passport. When the officers are off to retrieve the fake passport, upon which they will see that your supposedly real name is actually a fake name in your fake passport, stay where you are and don’t flee yet.
>When they come back, learn that the fake passport was no longer in the place where you hid it. It disappeared unbeknownst to you.
>When the officers are gone again, about to find out that other verifiable fact any moment now, have a look at the crime scene again and mark the direction from where you think the bullet came.
>Leave the hotel and flee to another city. Your plan is now fulfilled.

i don't mean this lightly or as some generic insult or meme.
But genuinely why did you post this

>>3625534
None of that was part of any "plan" you mongoloid nigger.

>>3625541
it's a bot

I don't think most of that was part of a plan

I wish i was hard mercenary with star tattoos that fuck ex supermodels

Which Disco Elysium graphic should i get tattooed on my shoulder? These are pretty cool tatoo ideas

>>3625541
I call this practice "quantity posting". A lot of posters (especially new ones from reddit) seem to have it in their head that they have a 'quota' of posts to meet, and thus make a post every time they come up with a tangible concept for a post that isn't complete nonsense (we're not talking about shitposting here), even if there's no reason anyone would actually take an interest in it (themselves included). It's how you get all of these unfunny posts that just take a meme format and insert something topical, like that pointless Fallout 3 Trailer Park Boys post that's up right now.

>>3626042
>Schizo ramblings of someone that been here for 10 years or so and thinks hes an epic "oldfag" that belongs to secret club
This site died before you "discovered" it kek

>>3626050
I think I actually triggered you with that.

>>3626052
Not really timmy but whatever you say
Thing is youre just as bad as reddit with your pseudo elitism of teenage boy

>>3626056
Now you're just saying random words.

>>3626042
>especially new ones from reddit
Don’t sign you are posts

>>3625541
I don't mean this lightly or as some generic insult or meme.
But genuinely why did the devs write this. And why do people praise the writing.

>>3625545
>>3625632
Sure she just happened to stumble upon a town without police! And staging the lynching and calling the police is just a coincidence, happens to everyone! Also leaving the town at just the right moment, when she apparently could have done that the entire time, it all makes sense guys!

>>3626211
I would appreciate it if you could get to the point instead of incoherent stuttering
obviously a lot of people who get involved in a murder investigation didn't plan on it
and the fact that she could leave the town explains why she bothered to stay in the first place, she could've just bounced if things started pointing her way

>>3626220
Sure because just saying ‘it wasn’t a plan’ completely gets to the point of this thread and explains the game super coherently!
>the fact that she could leave the town explains why she bothered to stay in the first place
No that does not explain it in the slightest. She leaves after completely risking getting arrested multiple times. There’s also the passports thing, meaning she wouldn’t be able to get off the island

>>3626062
Youre not very sharp

>>3626211
she didn't stage the lynching, retard

>>3626071
you don't even know what you are talking about

>>3625534
It's shrimple. She craves neoliberal mercenary cock and communists giver her the ick.

Reminder that more women leave a man because he is boring than because he mistreats them

>>3626670
they enjoy, downright fantasize about being objectified almost to a universal extent, but ive yet to find one single femoid self aware enough to actually admit this about themself. where as men just want the hottest piece of ass possible, we all know it and openly admit unless theyre already cucked into a relationship.

>>3626235
>She leaves after completely risking getting arrested multiple times
it was a while since I played it so I may be mistaken
so go ahead and name 2 situations she was at risk of an arrest
in fact the way I remember it I don't think you have enough evidence to arrest anyone in any point of the game until you finally meet the deserter

>>3625534
Klaasje does plan things somewhat, but those plans are almost entirely intuited without much logic and reason, because that worked for her until her espionage gig went up in flames. She should think things through better than that and she knows it, but she can't.

Part of it is her being incapable of reinventing her way out of an existence as a hot and mysterious lady who just has everything naturally going her way - she cannot cope with the reality of this sort of existence no longer being the case for her, and she bluntly admits to it.

Another part of it is that she cannot process struggle and loss - hence her running away from her home country, and her escapism into sexual promiscuity and drug abuse. She cannot deal with it even in a life of escape itself, which in turn directs her towards self-destructive tendencies. Lely's violent and meaningless death was the last straw for her. She partially wants to get caught, so that it can all be finally over.

In short, she's not a mastermind of any kind - she literally causes her own troubles, feels (more so than thinks) up a flawed solution, goes "eh, if I do this it can probably work, maybe", and this point no longer even cares much that it is quite unlikely to work. Dop note that most of these decisions she made while being literally high as a kite.

>>3626712
You can arrest her after you figure out that the window was replaced and confront her about it. The scene where Harry's psyche gets compromised.

If you do that the game later describes a scene of Moralintern G-Men visiting her in custody, with a very transparent implication of them killing her then and there. No trial, no jury, no nothing.

>>3625534
Additional nitpicks
>Stay at penthouse of hotel for months (have loads of money apparently).
Duh. Craptons of drugs she takes cost way more than Garte's hovel anyhow.

>Hang out with mercenary that harasses other women, brags about his atrocities and is always dressed in armor.
She craves safety, which can take the shape of a strong man capable of protecting her. At the same time, she knows that he can be dangerous to her and is drawn to that as well, due to her self-destructive drive. Exacerbated by Lely turning out to be legit pleasant company. Her biggest regret about the entire case is that the sniper bullet got Lely and not her - dying in embrace of someone who cares about her would be the one things she still wished for at the time, and even that was taken from her.

>They will agree with it because anyone who comes to their district is desperate and deserves protection (even when they can afford a luxurious penthouse for months).
They literally simp for her.

>Call the police.
She couldn't take looking at Lely's rotten face anymore.

The most obvious solution to all of her problems seems to be just getting the hell outta Dodge immediately, but that doesn't take in the account her extreme exhaustion from the chase and suicidal spiraling down. She doesn't resist arrest for the same reason, even though just bolting past Harry and Kim should be trivial.

When Harry gets compromised, he not only sees through her lies - by doing that and not lashing at her in retribution he shows her that he actually cares, and that the world is more than just the advancing wall of doom and bipedal tools she can throw in the wall's way to buy herself another day or two. She gives her a reason to live and struggle on. She's one of the people that Harry can actually save. And her being ultimately a helpless and terrified victim of what is blatantly injustice, it is his duty to save people like her.

>>3626725
>G-Men visiting her in custody, with a very transparent implication of them killing her then and there
that's pretty cool
it's about time I gave this game a go in another playstyle to see the content I missed

>>3626725
>>3626732
>goes "eh, if I do this it can probably work, maybe", and this point no longer even cares much that it is quite unlikely to work.
How would calling the police be something that would maybe probably work, she could have done literally anything else about Lely hanging there (not to mention it was her who caused it, she didn’t seem to mind Lely being hanged near her house when it was going on).

How would lying to police officers and antagonizing your friends maybe probably work.

How would sending the police offers to find the passport maybe probably work.

>most of these decisions she made while being literally high as a kite.
Not most, just a few. Not when she called the police, because she would have mentioned that when Harry was getting aggressively suspicious about her calling the police. Also she apparently could think pretty reasonable while on drugs, as seen by how she came up with the lynching plan right after the murder when she took an extra dose, and prepared it herself and well enough to fool an experienced lieutenant like Kim.

>They literally simp for her.
They state multiple times it’s their duty and say that Martinaise would just be a dump if they weren’t helping people. The game doesn’t downplay this with Harry’s skills.

>The most obvious solution to all of her problems seems to be just getting the hell outta Dodge immediately, but that doesn't take in the account her extreme exhaustion from the chase and suicidal spiraling down.
Literally made up bullshit.
>She doesn't resist arrest for the same reason, even though just bolting past Harry and Kim should be trivial.
She absolutely does resist arrest with everything she’s got. Not physically no, bolting past two physically fit men, one a big guy is not trivial.

>>3626554
She certainly did, did you immediately kill Ruby or something?

>>3626825
>How would calling the police be something that would maybe probably work
That wasn't le meticulously planned. She was hysterical.

>How would lying to police officers
That's not some meticulous plan either. She expected RCM to just roll about, remove the body, ask a typically questionnaire and fuck off forever. Because that's how police usually handles such cases in Revachol. That's literally what Kim would do if he was alone. What she did not expect is Detective Raphaël Ambrosius Costeau having a metasomatic breakdown next door for a week and then sniffing out the whole scheme in excruciating detail because that happens to be his board for reassembling his collapsed psyche.

>antagonizing your friends
She does not believe in such a thing as "friends". She's a fugitive from the Moralintern law, everyone is out to get her, there is nobody she can actually trust. That's how she perceives reality.

>Not when she called the police, because she would have mentioned that
Not really, no.

>Also she apparently could think pretty reasonable while on drugs, as seen by how she came up with the lynching plan right after the murder
We've just gone over how the plan is actually quite seriously flawed in a number of ways.

>fool an experienced lieutenant like Kim
Kim is exceptionally, heroically bad at seeing through bullshit of any kind. That's his defining fault as a police officer. He believes people.

>They state multiple times it’s their duty and say that Martinaise would just be a dump if they weren’t helping people
That's how they perceive it. We know that's not the real cause behind the lynching cover up. They do try to help people, but if it was anyone else - anyone that doesn't compromise their emotions - they would not play the whole lynching tune.

>bolting past two physically fit men
Anon, Kim is a binoclard, and Harry is an aged alcoholic. What would they do? Shoot at her with their pepperboxes?

>>3626825
>Literally made up bullshit.
Anon, you might be on a spectrum.

>>3626835
>She was hysterical.
>Go from "eh, if I do this it can probably work, maybe" to nah anon she was absolutely hysterical!
She didn’t sound very hysterical when talking about it. Perfectly recalled everything about the call and why she did it.

>ask a typically questionnaire and fuck off forever.
>That's literally what Kim would do if he was alone.
Like Kim wouldn’t go back to the Hardies to check the story up with them lol. There’s no way you would deliberately go against the established fake story and fuck over your friends just because you think the cops are stupid.

>She does not believe in such a thing as "friends".
Whatever temporary allies then. In this situation she knew they kept their end of the deal because she just heard from the police officers they had told the correct story

>Not really, no.
>Police officer asks again about a specific testimony because it doesn’t sound believable
>Also starts talking about arrest with his colleague
Yeah certainly not a good time to shed some light on the matter, after you already admitted to frequent hardcore drug use

>We've just gone over how the plan is actually quite seriously flawed in a number of ways.
It’s not if you’re extremely paranoid about coming into contact with any sort of authority (in a no police zone). Like I said, she did it well enough to fool an experienced officer

>Kim believes people.
This is about coming up with a plan that can theoretically fool an experienced police officer, not how it played out. Her work in the shower with the body etc. It has nothing to do with Kim believing people and everything to do with the autopsy

>We know that's not the real cause behind the lynching cover up.
No, we don’t.
>if it was anyone else - anyone that doesn't compromise their emotions - they would not play the whole lynching tune.
Like I said, your skills would see through them being compromised and simping.

>>3626835
>>3626836
>Kim is a binoclard, and Harry is an aged alcoholic.
Binoclard is not a real word, let alone an argument. So basically a roleplaying faggot is accusing me of autism.
You can literally max out your physical skills and run around all day (Kim talks about that as well so he also has good condition)
>Shoot at her with their pepperboxes?
Pretending Kim doesn’t have a gun

>>3625534
You'd be surprised at how stupid human beings can act in reality, especially those who willingly call the police and expect to magically not be implicated in events they were involved in. A character acting illogical isn't a sign of bad writing, a character acting illogical and being presented as logical is bad writing.

>>3626882
>those who willingly call the police and expect to magically not be implicated in events they were involved in.
Those people have a reason to call the police. She didn’t. Also you’re comparing her to people with the IQ equivalent of a gorilla.
>a character acting illogical and being presented as logical is bad writing.
She’s presented as a smart and articulate ex industrial spy. Also it’s a detective game so pulling a ‘the centerpiece of the story is actually acting retarded lol’ is a fundamental sign of bad writing, even if they hope no one will think it through and be distracted by the ending (they were right with that)

>>3626894
>Also you’re comparing her to people with the IQ equivalent of a gorilla.
Anon, she's a woman..
>She’s presented as a smart and articulate ex industrial spy.
When she's first introduced she's presented as a whore with substance abuse problems. I agree that the whole setting up of the fake lynching is stupid but you're proposing her to be a more sophisticated character than she actually is. The whole hardie boys are retarded socialists who realistically would do something so unbearably fucking stupid that the major writing problem isn't that the lynching was set up but that letting them die in the tribunal is proposed as being a negative outcome somehow. They get kids addicted to hard drugs and terrorize local businesses and the writers expect me to feel sympathy for them? Lol.

>>3626911
It's less sympathy and more that the Hardie Boys are better than literally nothing. I'd rather have some dumb rednecks shooting criminals than letting said criminals run free and clean because they have guns and your average citizen may not. The game beats you over the head with the fact that Martinaise has been an abandoned shithole for years. It's a ghetto district that the cops simply chose to look away from. The last time they were there it was to get into a shootout with members of a gang that had gotten a little too bold. At the end of the day, it's a negative outcome to allow well-meaning, if crude and petulant, citizens of your city to be gunned down by foreign mercenaries in a makeshift, unsanctioned military tribunal. If the platonic ideal of a "good cop" could exist, then they would be opposed to innocent civs being shot. Full stop.
The only crimes they're guilty of are tampering with the scene of the crime, obstruction of investigation/non-cooperation, and desecrating a body. Hardly worth execution. Add in the fact that they're being asked to trust not only a member of a militia that has abandoned their district for decades, but one whose first action upon arriving was to go on a 3-day apocalyptic blackout bender. If a seemingly incompetent, amnesiac public nuisance with a badge from a negligent citizen law enforcement group that acts as the finger of a foreign power started coming around to ask questions, I'd be skeptical as well.
Yes, they're retarded drunken socialists, but they're also impassioned citizens who care about the growth and stability of their home. The drug issue is a separate one, and it's not like the Hardie Boys themselves are drug dealers either. They're just kind of assholes who work for the same shipping company that houses the corrupt king socialist fuckwad who wants to traffic drugs.

>>3627147
>If the platonic ideal of a "good cop" could exist, then they would be opposed to innocent civs being shot. Full stop.
Revachol must be free of the communist menace in order for it to be made great again. The Hardie Boys dying is a net outcome for everyone.

>>3627147
>The only crimes they're guilty of are tampering with the scene of the crime, obstruction of investigation/non-cooperation, and desecrating a body
Not true, they're also responsible for trafficking drugs into the community and are directly responsible for ruining the entire district. Did you even play the game? Cuno is so strung out on speed that he can barely function and he's not even of age. What they've done is legitimately sick. Without them Martinaise would simply be a poor fishing village with a few touristry locations rather than a crime ridden dangerous ghetto full of thugs.

Hey dont speak about my wife like that

>>3627296
>Revachol must be free of the communist menace in order for it to be made great again. The Hardie Boys dying is a net outcome for everyone.
Extremely based.

>>3626877
>She didn’t sound very hysterical when talking about it.
Confirmed for spectrum.

>>3627300
>Not true, they're also responsible for trafficking drugs into the community and are directly responsible for ruining the entire district.
No, that's Ruby, who associates with HB, but who's explicitly not one herself.

>>3627417
Hm so Kim and Harry are both on the spectrum? Because she didn’t sound ‘very hysterical’ at all, nor did the skills say so. She kept her soft tone while explaining. Also that would be pretty suspicious during an interrogation. https://youtube.com/watch?v=jvlg5hdpZVs

>>3627558
>Hm so Kim and Harry are both on the spectrum?
Kim almost is. He's bad at people stuff and admits it, and feels more comfortable tinkering with his Keneema. Harry's Skills are compromised. And in any case, we are talking about her calling the station, which she did because she could no longer take the sight of Lely's rotting body in her window. So she made an irrational decision under the overwhelming pressuire of her emotions. She acted hysterically. And even then, just in the arrest scene that you linked:
>A little whimper.
>Her voice cracks suddenly - like there's a garrotte around her neck.
>"...I have to lie *all the time*." She looks at her hands, her fingernails are chipped white. "I'm so tired of this".

If you don't see how she's hysterical all the way through the entire game (including leaving a clue for Harry and an apology note) and just barely managing to conceal it with lies upon lies, you might be genuinely autistic.

If she could. she would spend a whole week curled up into a ball and whimpering, but she's not allowed to do that - she's too scared, but approaching the point where she's too tired to even be scared.

When Harry arrest her it's her final breaking point. .

>>3627579
>When Harry arrest her
I let her to take a hike

>>3627579
>And in any case, we are talking about her calling the station
No we aren’t, you literally said this: “>She didn’t sound very hysterical when talking about it.
Confirmed for spectrum.”
>And even then, just in the arrest scene that you linked:
Those things aren’t related to the ask about phone call option (so they might as well not happen)

>>3627612
Advanced spectrum.

>>3626828
>did you immediately kill Ruby
>didn't speak to everyone else even
You don't even have to have Ruby alive to realize whatever cuck was upset Klassje slept around with one of those soldiers. You also should know that's not even how he died to begin with.

>>3627620
I accept your concession. Feels good to gradually reduce simp posts to two words lol

>>3625534
The only people who think this game has good writing are non-readers and especially those who don't speak English as a first language. You see it over and over again in threads here praising it to the moon. It's not only a decent story for a game, not just a good one, it's GREAT, it's the BEST story ever told in gaming, it's verifiable world literature.
Read a book you fucking retards. For that matter play a game, cause this isn't either.

>>3627639
I'm a reader and I think DE has good writing
t. reader
also being an EFL or ESL doesn't matter, since it the same person judging other game's writing as well
if you think it matters, you are a retard
so thanks for once again proving the point only <110IQ retards try to bring down DE

>>3627639
In all fairness videogame storytelling is a REALLY low bar, specially when ones does exactly what you telling us to do and read actual classics or the greats. Disco Elysium still has infinitly better writing than 99% of games you come across out there, even ones praised for their writing. The only games I see rival DE in that regard are visual novels, which aren't really games and DE is basically a visual novel anyway.

>>3627420
You're either being intentionally dishonest or skimmed over much of the game's dialogue, or simply didn't press the Hardie Boys enough when confronting them. The Hardie Boys work for the Union, the Union peddles drugs into Martinaise at the behest of Evrart. They are directly responsible for helping destroy the entire community, they are not the head but they are ultimately complicit and willing participants.

>>3627579
>So she made an irrational decision under the overwhelming pressuire of her emotions. She acted hysterically.
Professional spy btw

>>3627698
>the Union peddles drugs into Martinaise at the behest of Evrart
Yes, but they believe it's for distribution to other countries, as Revachol has no sources of income otherwise. Not for local consumption. They are naive idiots for thinking that it can work that way, but they are also specifically not in on Ruby's logistical network.

>>3627726
>Professional spy btw
She's in the situation she's in specifically because she was not very good at it and lost the nerve because she was thinking too much.

>>3627639
>The only people who think this game has good writing are non-readers
Nah, the game has A-tier prose and characterization for XX century standards. S-tier for contemporary ones.
t. /lit/

>Read a book you fucking retards.
Name the book. Go ahead. We're waiting for a showcase of your highbrow literary taste.

>>3627742
She's in the situation because she isn't a well written character. The mind creating her could have written her into all kinds of interesting situations, and he chose this one because he is not talented especially when it comes to female characters.

>>3627747
Blah blah blah k ofc sure man you're so smart and educated

>>3627742
>She's in the situation she's in specifically because she was not very good at it and lost the nerve because she was thinking too much.
Where did you get this from? From what I know the job was just over and the higher ups didn’t want any loose ends

>>3627757
>From what I know the job was just over and the higher ups didn’t want any loose ends
We don't know that, and neither does she. She assumed she'll be disposed off and went AWOL, which did paint a huge bullseye on her head. She could pull a Lely and learn to be a useful asset by climbing over people and corpses, but she didn't have what it takes.

>>3627747
>The mind creating her could have written her into all kinds of interesting situations
but this is an interesting situation...

mommy with sword was hotter

>>3625534
>Go to revachol because it's a big city, stay in the shithole part of town because that's what you can afford while on the run
>literally a cafeteria on the first floor, more of a cheap shit hostel than a hotel.
>fuck bad boy because bitches love bad boys
>assume shot was a freak accident and not an assasination attempt because no further shots are fired and no one comes to the building to kill klaasje
>no one calls the cops because it's a shithole
>Vigilantes agree to help because she's a pretty woman and they didn't like the merc or Wild pines
>"make yourself the motive of the lynching"

fucking hell you're retarded, they did their best to cover it up and make it seem like they killed the merc for being sent by wild pines
>call police because you understandably hate seeing his corpse
>lie to the police to maintain your cover
>do your best to change your story when your found out
>explain the truth when finally confronted in an effort to get pity because blond white girls can literally get away with murder sometimes, and the union simps already helped her, why not cops
>panic and flee when you become less sure that the cops might still take you in, or expose your identity and location

Anon, she's a woman. What did you expect?

>>3627874
Ur talking about the window? Yeeeeee she was

>>3628256
>assume shot was a freak accident and not an assasination attempt because no further shots are fired and no one comes to the building to kill klaasje
>no one calls the cops because it's a shithole
No she didn’t assume that, and no that is not why no one called the cops. Gets kinda repetitive these anons saying ‘retarded’ while clearly having comprehension problems themselves. She didn’t assume anything and if she still wanted to cover it up (for no one, not because it’s a shithole but because Wild Pines pressures people into not calling the police) then she could have simply left like she could have done the whole time apparently.
>they did their best to cover it up and make it seem like they killed the merc for being sent by wild pines
No they didn’t lol, did you play the game? Literally the first thing Titus says when you ask him ‘why’ is ‘rape’.
>call police because you understandably hate seeing his corpse
Which was your own idea.‘Understandably’ lol like there’s nothing else you can do about it
>lie to the police to maintain your cover
No she didn’t, she lied to the police ánd didn’t maintain the cover (of the lynching)

>>3625534
Luxurious penthouse?

>>3631541
OP lives on a corroded piece of rebar poking out the side of a half-collapsed waste treatment facility building in NY which he pays $7000/month for (1/3 of the rent, he shares it with 2 other guys), please understand.

>>3631541
You are quoting from a line about the vigilantes perspective