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What are the best non-Japanese RPGs in your opinion and why?
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>>3656964
Fallout, Planescape, Deus Ex, Arcanum, Icewind Dale
Didn't like BG1/2 as much or VtMB.

Newer games are harder to recommend but I did enjoy Tyranny and Tides of Numenera, and especially Underrail. Underrail is probably the best indie CRPG, it's big and has godlike exploration at least on the first playthrough, and some exceptional quest design in places.
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>>3656980
And for console tier games, ME2, DAO, DXHR, F3 and FNV are all decent or good
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Baldur's Gate 2 is inarguably the best CRPG ever made and arguably THE best game ever made.
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>>3657088
It's not even a good CRPG.
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non-japanese implies that the best rpg is japanese lol
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There are no actual RPGs made in Japan, you didn't need to clarify.
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>>3657140
>>3657139
>globohomo westoid
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I don’t know, never played one and never will.
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>>3657088
It's a pretty good game. The only thing it truly lacks is difficulty in the form of AI behavior. Strategic and tactical QoL improvements would be a great benefit. Expanded stealth & device mechanics would be really great, too. There's no way they were gonna be able to implement any of that before launch, though. Devs still can't do complex AI, which is why they like turn-based so much.
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>>3657163
The thing about BG2 I never see anyone mention is that the story might as well be non-existent. There are dozens of sidequests but they all feel very "gamey" like you know why they're placed where they are, what was the intention of the devs, and what their outcome will be.
It's not at all a halfway point between Torment and IWD, it's much closer to IWD except there are a bunch of quirky party members. The NPCs? Might as well be the same shit as IWD.
But maybe I'm being unfair? BG2 is a big fat gigantic content pinatra you can keep hitting for I don't know how long. Its flaws are hardly a problem if you are focusing more on getting the next epic level ability and making all the pieces fall into place so you can faceroll encounters.
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>>3657139
no it doesn't?
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>>3656964
Ekundayo always has your back in kingmaker and all he asks is that you let him hunt trolls in peace and if you really want to you can help the tavern owner lady soften him up and heal from his grief.
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>>3656964
Every answer in this thread will be bad because only idiots spoonfeed.
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>>3659405
This
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>>3659401
Looks like nigger to me
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>>3657088
rollplay game not a roleplay game
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>>3657088
Correct
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>>3659760
easy to make that mistake at first, but he's just a black guy.
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>>3656964
Bethesda games.
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>>3661744
what role is your character playing
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Gothic 2, Deus Ex, VTM:B, PS:T, Disco Elysium, Drova. they're best because they either sell the progression and exploration well or they have the best stories, the ONLY merits that can truly elevate an rpg.
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>>3656964
Baldur's Gate 3 is the best CRPG
Fallout: New Vegas is the best WRPG
Mass Effect trilogy is the best ARPG
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>>3662067
I forgot to explain why:

>Baldur's Gate 3
Simply has the best overall package, its gameplay is very good, excellent mechanics that combine immersive sim elements, dynamic interactivity and good tactical depth and variety, good world design that combines rewarding exploration, intricate level design and excellent encounter design, great reactive dialogue and fun meaningful quests to tackle, iconic and memorable characters and great visuals and music, its the pinnacle.
>Fallout: New Vegas
No game comes close to what it does, it masterfully combines the old isometric Fallout lore and writing with 3D open world Bethesda world design, making it the dream WRPG, as the rpg mechanics are meaningful and the sense of roleplaying, progression and adventure are unparalled.
>Mass Effect Trilogy
On par with Souls franchise within ARPGs, Mass Effect has one of the best worldbuilding in RPGs, the solid action gameplay combines with high quality cinematics and storytelling make for a very engaging and memorable space opera Arpg where your characters and the way you interact with them will leave an impact on you, its Bioware at their best and yes its way better than older BG games or Dragon Age.


Those are the Holy Trinity of the genre.
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>>3662070
you're dumb as hell and I mean that
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>>3662081
lmfao yeah keep crying
>you're dumb as hell and I mean that
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>>3662119
Post/image combo.
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>>3662126
You are seething because your game is not on my list, get a life insecure retard.
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>>3659401
shit I thought this was a rpg companion thread
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>>3657163
the gameplay is utter trash, even with intelligent opponents. scs proves how shallow and awful the "gameplay" of bg2 really is
a complete unbalanced mess
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>>3657088
More Baldur's GOAT 2
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>>3659405
what do you do on 4chan if it's not todiscuss things you like?
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>>3657191
Maybe you're just projecting. Do you even go to any of the BG2 forums or are you just basing your experience on the shitposting done here? Plenty of people play for the bants, too. The NPCs are easy to fall in love with or hate outright. Their little quests add a lot of character, too. I personally feel bad if I don't hustle to go get Imoen. The story is epic. You go all over the place and all the quests are pretty reasonable, if not pretty damn good. Irenicus is out of control and his voice actor is the shit. Those starting scenes in his dungeon and in the city are awesome. Those dreams are a trip until you understand what's going on. I personally like Nalia the most. She is a very good daughter.
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>>3662070
>everything about ME
Fucking kek, great bait.
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>>3656964
Do you people genuinely enjoy making the same threads and posts over and over again?
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>>3657088
Wasteland 3 is better for many reasons, despite its flaws
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>>3662676
1/10 bait
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>>3656964

>What are the best non-Japanese RPGs

We call them CRPGs and you wouldn't like them anyways. Go back to playing Final Fantasy
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>>3662677
Not bait, just the truth
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>>3656964
So the wall is really in fantasy games too? Fuck Imoen... what happen?
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>>3663175
Irenicus.



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