What is (generally) your favorite RPG class or subclass and why?Me personally I enjoy the versatility and style of mages and magic users, though I don't mind other classes as they can be just as cool/useful.But mage/sorcerers have got to be my favorite.
>>3883841Wow, what an original thread. Great pic, too.
>>3883841> images (1) (31)I love how this is the new "look how cool I am, I don't even give my images real names" poseur tactic. What a joke this kid is.
I like when you can mix freely between the two. I lean heavily towards magic users but want to incorporate some kind of fighting/thieving skills in between. D&D rules and elder scrolls games facilitate this the best imho.
>>3883841Blasters. Warlocks, Kineticists, Creators, Elemental Bombers, Ice Orb Sorceresses, Prismatic Spray Embermages... the kind. Feels great to refine the main damage mechanic through synergies and enjoy overcoming seemingly difficuilt obstacles like Spwan of Rovagug or Shadow King through sheer number stacking..
>>3883841Human, standard fighter class or standard mage class.Depends on how retarded or tiresome the games' magic shit is.Subclasses is for nerds that like to collect cards
>>3883966Not real D&D. nuD&D takes out the glory of limitation and rigid frames.
>>3883973You can multi/duoclass in aD&D
>>3883841Healer or some kind of caster. I am a man, but a soft one.
>>3883841Pure warrior, pure mage, or pure thief
>>3883841Mage-Rogue archetype,Psionic, Occultist(especially if lovecraft flavored) or a Support class that leans into magic.
Whatever is closest to "regular dude with a sword".
Paladin.bonus points if there’s no Paladin class and I have to make up my own
>>3883841When/if I can ever find them done in a way I find satisfactory, I like fencer dodge-tank types especially when there is some sort of riposte ability.Magic is alright but I wish there were more games without it.
>>3883841Blue mages or any class that requires you to do some specific quest or crafting to improve their skills.
>>3883841Shifter. It's fun to collect shapes and turn into whatever suits the situation.
>>3883841As a kid/teen who was introverted and in my little frame of mind unique and slightly above average in intelligence, I always played mages for the power and because Gandalf was awesome. Now, as an old man I prefer hybrid classes the most, or paladins when I can.
>>3883841Fighter or Monk. I like hitting things hard, simple as. Doing it with your bare hands is cool.Mage is great, but it really depends on the game. When you have a variety of spells with interesting effects, then I love Mages.
>>3883983>Mage-Rogue archetypeWay too few of these.
>>3883841I enjoy playing a white mans class. Anything that summons niggers to do the work for me.
>>3883841My favorites are the two extremes.Gish:Yeah I can cast spells and fight. Giga-Chad best at everything. I was just born superior.Monk:Spells? Weapons? Who the fuck needs those? I have perfected myself through the sheer power of will and have risen above your petty world of "magic".
>>3883983>Support classThose are cool but only in multiplayer for meI don't like supporting NPCsBut supporting people is funMakes me feel like the grown-up who took the kids to the park, so they can play while I keep them safe
>>3883972Dangerously based
Hybrids
>>3883841I enjoy sneaking around and pulling out my pud at grocery stores. Sometimes I wiggle it around. So naturally I play thieves.
>>3883967What's the name for this set of classes?
>>3884303>GishUgliest of terms
>>3883841All classes are basically fighter (close melee) or mage (range spell). All other classes are derivation and that's boring imho. There should be actual talker classes or acrobats or whatever.
>>3883841I'm on the same boat with the mage class. Don't get me wrong I love hitting enemies with a big ass sword but I love just desintegrating whichever npc annoys me
I'll go for an assassin, so long as you're not forced to be an edgelord wearing gay fetish black leather bodysuits. Robes are good, just regular unassuming clothes are great, but I'll be fucked before I wear a "look at me I'm an assassin" gimp costume in the middle of a city. I particularly like that Lucien has stubble to show that he's just some fuckin guy doing doing assassinations. Cults in general are better when the bulk of them is a bunch of random assholes joining them for the perks and the money, and are not all spooky edgy clean shaven masters of the occult. The wet dream is having a faction of, if not good, then at least lawful neutral assassins who work in service of the king or whatever, secret service types. And fuck dual wielding too unless you need to fight someone head on, then it's a sword main-hand and a parrying dagger in the other.If not, I'll go for plate and sword & board I guess.
>>3883978Why did you use "but" there?
>>3884205Which games don't have them?
>>3886253You'd like the spy / assassin village in Dragon's Dogma 2.
>>3883841I like martial classes with magic, but I don't like it when they *cast* regular magic. Being a fighter with some wizard spells is boring as sin, I like it when they have a magic gimmick instead, like spellblades imbuing spells directly into their weapons or having a teleporting martial etc. The exception for me is FF red mages, but they still typically get a few unique spells and doublecasting.TL;DR give me gimmicks on my guy with a sword.
>>3886257>Dragon's Dogma 2Game looks a bit flashy for my taste but I'll check it out when I have the time, thanks
>>3886265As a bonus answer: I would love for an RPG to give me a dedicated shapeshifting class. I'm so completely sick of spellcasters being the designated shapeshifters because it means that all the forms have to be balanced around also having access to spell, so it's either dogshit to compensate for spells, or it's not dogshit and the class is broken because they get both spells and cool shapeshifting. Altered Beast on the genesis captures the feeling better than every iteration of druid I've played both in actuall TTRPGs and video game RPGs
>>3883841As race always Human for class cleric would be it>Can use Heavy Armour>Weapons>Even MagicThere is something about screaming how much you love God while you are wacking and burning demons and shit
>>3883841fighter, human, male, white, mail armor, longsword - maybe a crossbow to spice things up.The idea of being a mook going against magical witchcraft is appealing.
>>3883841>take equal levels in all classes available>novice of all trades
>>3884076>>3883967You got any good game examples for these outside the usual Pathfinder/BG examples? Itching for some fresh RPGs where I can put together a party of characters I built
>>3886687Pillars you can make a serviceable riposte rogue off-tank.
>>3884205They don't work right in most crpg since there's nearly always a better fighter / mage combination.You're rarely allowed to be creative enough to do a true rogue/mage playstyle.PF Arcane Trickster is a cut above but also kind of not since it's just to give you a "backstab fireball" or scorching ray with extra sneak damage die. A true rogue mage should be filling a hall with illusions and backstabbing that way, or setting up elaborate intricate area traps with telekinetic manipulation and such, more ninja style trickery, less brute force in other words. Skyrim sadly enough has it done better than many here with illusion spells and paralysis and working light system with backstabs albeit a crude one.>>3884303Cleric is still the original and best out of the box gish.>>3886265BG3 is pretty amazing for gishes, 6 eldritch knight , 5 cleric of your choice for example, I prefer LightSpirit guardian buzzsaw on top of dual wielding light of lathander and another good cleric mace plus helm of arcane synergy is pretty kino for me right now.Beats a paladin or palasorc gish to me since you can still get the pure higher rank cleric spells this way and you mixed in the useful low level arcane melee spells like booming blade and movement stuff, shield too.Not gimmicky enough? How about some extra divine guardians and weapons helping you out, or blow up the battlefield with the light version of a super fireball that only targets enemies.
>>3886823>Spirit guardianCasting haste on this fucker let's him move around
Rogue/Thief>sneaking is fun>need one to open locks/chests and check for traps>backstabs do great damageEvery now and then I get tricked into thinking I'm actually a bigger fan of two-hand warriors, but every game I try to make one they end up being little bitches that can't do shit. Rogues are just too useful.
>>3886823>Cleric is still the original and best out of the box gish.This is offensively wrong. A cleric is categorically not a "gish". A gish is a fighter/mage multiclass specific to the githyanki race.>paladin or palasorc gishOh God, it gets even worse.
>>3886892Cleric bard fighter rogue gith?
>>3883841>Cleric is still the original and best out of the box gish.Who said we were talking about DnD?And even if we were you are still wrong.And clerics are fucking gay, sucking some deity's cock for magic.I do not bow to God.I am God.Especially in DnD like settings which is very much possible to attain divinity, you have to be a total complete loser to bow to a God.
>>3886892He is not wrong faggot.Gish originally meant a githyanki fighter mage, but has since changed meaning and means anyone who casts and fights.Words can change meaning you know?
>>3886900>He is not wrong faggot.He is wrong, faggot.
>>3886901https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gishwell the whole world disagrees with youand the evolution of language is a popularity contest
>>3886907>unironically citing AI in the big '25You have to go back.Yes, I am aware that secondaries misuse terms. That is why I helpfully corrected anon.
>>3886908https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gishhttps://www.yourdictionary.com/gishhttps://www.reddit.com/r/BG3Builds/comments/1b3v6kj/what_is_a_gish/https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gishhttps://www.wineverygame.com/word/meaning/gish.htmlhttps://www.definitions.net/definition/GISH
>>3886919>reddit.com/BG3Buildslol, lmao
>>3886921Im posting the top 10 google results you gay personyou shouldn't be insulted with gay btw cause the original meaning is happy
>>3886923Listen here, you fucking bundle of sticks, I am aware that people misuse the term gish. You are not telling me anything new. I am stating that they are wrong, and are misusing the term. You citing examples of people misusing the term is not refuting what I am saying, it is providing more examples of the phenomenon I am describing.
>>3886928You don't get how language works do you?It doesn't matter if people are "misusing" the term.Whatever the majority decides is correct.There are no "rules"E.g.>awfulmeant awe-inspiring. people "misusing" it turned it to very bad>terrificOriginally meant “causing terror.” Misusing it turned it to excellent>guyFrom grotesque Guy Fawkes effigies, turned into man>meatOriginally meant any kind of food in general. Now means animal flesh.etc etc etchalf the words you are using are a product of "misuse"yet if you go on calling awe-inspiring things awful, because you insist that it is being misused, nobody will understand you and you are the idiot
>>3886930Just because terms with time gain different referents does not mean that words cannot be used incorrectly fucking dimwit
>>3883841Mage, specifically leaning support or utility caster. Strictly speaking, not healing, but it is a useful thing to add, that usually has overlap with the role anyways. What brand of support or utility varies a lot, but that's part of the fun, usually. The value from a role like this almost always depends very, very heavily on context and what's actually good in the game..
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Personally i have always liked summoner classes, but they are better in tabletop that in videogames, that way i can personalize them totally, like summoning a wyrm of brimstone or an ancient totem boar of iron or stuff like that
I like wizards, especially something themed around lightning or teleportationA well implemented thief can be cool too