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what the fuck is going on and why is the game lagging to shit
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>>1668048
oh no you fell for the bloat&taxes meme?
those praising it were just shitposting, nobody is playing this trashy mod
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>>1668091
This, 2.5 was the last playable version, barely
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>>1668156
Is 2.5 that much better? And by that I mean, is it easier to learn and with less bloat? I can't stand the estate bullshit in the new version
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>>1668169
>Is 2.5 that much better? And by that I mean, is it easier to learn and with less bloat?
Yes, significantly
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>>1668048
>hungary is called hungary
>wallachia is called by it's native name
modders really can't stick to one rule...
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>>1668091
Other things the "Paradox bad now, old good" crowd was shitposting about - nobody plays HoI3, nevermind the Black Ice mod, unmodded Vic2, unmodded CK2.
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>>1668091
I've played this mod, but it was around the time before the estate rework(when they took provinces) All I remember is that playing inside HRE was retarded, but there was some fun to be had outside of it (with Poland for example)
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>>1668257
unmodded CK2 is good. I play hoi3. Blackice is a meme though
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>>1668048
God i want to play that mod so bad
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>>1668048
3.0 was a mistake. All those buttons taking up the building menu, all fucking useless
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>>1670003
Does the building still get done by a branching event?
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>>1668048
I never understood the point of MEIOU, like you reworking every aspect of the game with a script-based system are not great for performance.
If you hate every game mechanic so much you feel to need to remake it from scrap, why even make a mod, when you could make a game of your own?
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Honestly I just want a mod with MEIOU's map but without all the new mechanics.
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>>1668048
I've never seen these building symbols on the map, do you use a submod?
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The price of greatness
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I played MEIOU in 2.51 or something as England. Had no idea about the intricacies of the economy but I became rich anyways by plundering everything not bolted to the ground in France, Flanders and Italy and then dumping it into buildings.
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>>1670349
with 3.0 you might cripple yourself doing this because you destroy your food source by burning france
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>>1668257
I play unmodded ck2, it’s fun
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>>1670367
England was dependent on French food exports in the 14th century?
I thought it only tipped over into needing imports to sustain itself with the 19th century population growth.
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>>1668091
whats the best and less bloated older version of the game?
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>>1670270
try victorum Universalis. it's not entirely vanilla cuz manpower and shit like that is reworked
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>>1671101
How did i never hear about that mod
Thanks anon
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>>1671101
>>1671188
Having played it a bunch I will say it's hilariously unbalanced and you will become an economic juggernaut within a hundred years without even trying. The gorillions of provinces and monuments stack together to an absurd degree. Also the earlier start date is terrible and you will have no buildings to make or extra gov capacity until 1444 when the normal techs start, it just makes an easy game that much easier.
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>>1671193
>and you will become an economic juggernaut within a hundred years without even trying.

sounds like every paradox game
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>>1671797
There's regular broken and then there's making 1k a month as the netherlands without even owning all of the low countries yet. They added way more provinces and money but all the expenses are mostly unchanged so you end up with way more than you know what to do with so you can just dump it all into the numerous monuments and advisors to dev more and stack more bonuses so the loop only gets more severe that much faster
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>>1668257
I play unmodded vic2
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Been meaning to try this mod out though I'm not exactly sure what the differences are between 2.5 and 3.0. Can someone give me a rundown?
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>>1668257
>nobody plays HoI3
I just had a campaign as china, last of the few games that were actually challenging
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>>1668048
What the fuck is this?
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>>1671909
the best mod for any game and the only reason to play EU4 in 2k24
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>>1671819
Same, looks like it's just us two though
>now neither one of us will be virgins
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>>1671909
Looks like MEIOU & Taxes but something went horribly wrong with its scope creep in the past few years
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>>1668257
Retarded zoomer
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>>1671835
>2.5
Bloat
>3.0
Bloater
Just pirate two versions of this nigger mod and see the differences with your own eyes. I've never played 3.0 so the only thing I can tell you is that its even slower than 2.5 despite the 3.0 update being hyped up as "the update that'll fix performance" for fucking years straight.
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>>1671835
3 is even more autistic
>>1672621
since I've got my new pc i can play meiou on normal eu4 vanilla speed
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>>1668257
hoi3 is great (if it didn't crash every 20 minutes) (laa does not work)
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>>1672630
this, why hasnt anyone fixed this
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>>1672562
>and the only reason to play EU4 in 2k24
That would be Anbennar.
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>>1674070
>>1671101
>>1671193
Is there any mod that actually makes vanilla eu4 good? I played anbennar and 2.5 to death and 3.0 is a pain in the ass
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>>1668169
2.5 is a version of EU4 with some extra complexity added. 3.0 is a barely functional simulator haphazardly crammed into the Clausewitz engine where you need to click through eight different event menus (each of which takes several seconds to load) just to build a fort.
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>>1674370
if you had at least an iq of 120 it would be fun
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Have the devs just given up? How is it still in alpha after all these years?
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>>1674372
It's not an IQ issue, it's an autism issue
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>>1674373
They probably realize a lot of people hate it and try to make it more palatable. I think a recent update made it so if you overinvest you don't bleed money it just gets stored for later. But it's hard to salvage. To be fair i don't know what i would do if i were them.
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>>1674070
>orcs are le chivalrous sopthisticaed niggas ACHTUALLY

na fuck that fantasy shit
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>>1671101
I gave up on VU because it's getting bloated now too. They're putting out a savegame breaking update every week but what done it for me is the ruler education stuff where it takes 5 years to get a degree or you get massive penalties to mana generation, tech and idea costs.
Sounds fine but it applies to republics as well so the malus is pretty much permanent.
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why do people recommend 2.5 over 2.6?

is 2.6 slow like 3?
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>>1674722
So just fucking genocide them.
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I remember waiting literal years for 3.0 to come out only to make the game completely unplayable and giving up. From reading this thread, it doesn't sound like much has changed.
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Is this compatible with the CK2/3 save converter?
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>>1676519
I'd imagine its not
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>>1670261
>why even make a mod, when you could make a game of your own?
a meiou dev tried that already and his tranny coder ran off to japan lmao
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I just tried it myself and holy fucking shit the way the game lags out for at least ten minutes at every year tick
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>>1677396
It's better to think of it as a turn based game
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>>1675832
2.6 is just an upgraded version of 2.5. people are just used to saying 2.5 I guess, since that was the big split with 3.0
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>>1674374
so mentally retarded?



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