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>Suzerain thread
Looks like the dlc will have more strategy elements, including managing troops. Any hopes for it?
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>>1671590
i wanna play as rumburg or however this not-russia is called and annex all the smaller niggas
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>>1671799
Rumburg is Greece tho
Sordland is Turkey
Walhen is Belarus/Syria
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>>1671590
>including managing troops
tell me more
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>>1671590
Does the game force you into keeping your stupid daughter as your heir? Can't you nominate your brother or nephew? Or just sire a new son?
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>>1671845
third world goat rapist with an IQ of 70 asking the pressing questions as usual
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>>1671840
https://youtu.be/6Yb9i-cDPTI?si=3WWvYHYunP7Kn4PG
Nothing too deep but looks like a nice addition
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>>1671845
You trace your royal line through your grandmother who was also Rizia's greatest ruler, so I don't think disinheriting your only child because she's a woman would make any sense at all
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>>1671922
Fatimid dynasty is named after Muhammed's daughter because they trace lineage from her, yet they did not allow women to inherit.
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>>1671935
Cool what does that have to do with anything
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>>1671944
You said it didn't make sense to trace lineage though woman if you were going disqualify women, which has historical precident
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>>1671951
Yeah but Fatima provides legitimacy by being the only child of Muhammad in a religion where being related to Muhammad was very important, not because she personally ruled over a golden age that's within living memory
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>>1671590
Light novels are not strategy.
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>>1671813
are you mentally hill?
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>>1671813
turk hands typed this
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>>1671985
They are adding in elements to make it more of a strategy game. Im sorry this is taking up space on your paradox board.
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>>1671985
well, I could illustrate why this game demands greater strategic intuition than your typical map painting paracuck games, but I'm feeling a bit lazy at the moment.
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>>1672139
I accept your concession.
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>>1671985
I don't think you know what a light novel is
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>>1671985
>Light novels
"Junior, you are courting death!"
Former President Colonel Tarquin Soll said with certainty, his voice as calm as a painting of the Markian Sea.
Young President Anton Rayne felt Former President Tarquin Soll's killing intent fill the bathroom. He was pushed back three meters, pissing outside the urinal, spitting blood.
"Former President Tarquin Soll has eyes, but cannot see Gumren Mountains!", Young President Anton Rayne said, as he gathered his votes to bright forth Ultimate Amendment Article 99 Reform.
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>>1672344
kek
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>>1671922
It makes perfect sense. Women are the lesser partner in a union. If you have a successor and care about bloodline it should be a man. Even a brother or nephew is better than a daughter.
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>>1672638
I bet you genuinely wonder why "roasties" don't want to be with you
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>>1672699
Dude, mommy isn't gonna give you a whiff of pussy for making this post.
This is what a female-dominated school system and culture does to a mf.
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>>1672638
m8 there's a much more direct and material explanation for male-preference inheritance
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>>1672718
forgot mah pic
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>>1672703
>Be and act retarded
>Wonder why people call you a retard
>Lash out when that happens
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>>1672755
Here's the thing, bro: the whole Western world already agrees with your vagina-worship. The fact that a guy on an obscure sub-board of 4chan refuses to bow down is not a threat to mommy.
Just relax.
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>>1672833
>>1672755
I assume this is the same person taking to themselves
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>>1671590
>>1671881
>Smolak in the trailer
hell yeah, can't wait to bro it up with him once more
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>>1671813
>greece
it's anglos larping as rus vikings
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>>1672865
he's a funny guy
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>>1671881
>actually negotiating trade deals
>deciding when to enact decrees by spending resources
I hope this gets implemented in the main campaign
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>>1671590
>including managing troops
SUZERAIN is stealing paradoxs toy soldier niche from underneath them
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>>1672941
and they're literal toy soldiers too, holy fuck chudbros we're finally home
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>>1671590
This is a good game, but I didn't like it. It made me hate politics and anyone who is 'good' at politics.
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>>1672941
This is what pdx has wanted for a while. A visual novel with some strategy elements.
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>>1673316
so which bad ending did you get?
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TOTAL BL*D DEATH
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>>1673036
>>1672941
So is it becoming a game now?
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>emergency decree
>total nationalization
>central bank and media also nationalized
>military funded to the max
>secret police state
>USP and NFP as the only parties in the assembly
>alliance with Wehlen, Bergia Zone abolished (total blud death)
>total rumburg death
I'm totally not a fascist, I swear
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Are the devs nazis or something? I guess they're trying to equate the bluds and the jews, but why even make them that fucking unlikable? They're always antagonistic unless you want to destroy your country and they're a bunch of terrorists. If they wanted me to support genocide then they completely succeeded.
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>>1674246
God damn you are stupid. I don't even know where to begin.
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>>1674246
looks like someone just grabbed the red candle
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>>1674246
Sordland is Turkey and theyre the kurds you giant mouthbreather.

Devs are also turks so they want you to back genocide
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>>1674246
>I guess they're trying to equate the bluds and the jews
Sordland is probably one of the least subtle real country analogues I've ever seen in any piece of media and you've still managed to fuck it up. Well done.
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>>1674282
To be fair how many people actually know about Turkey in the cold war
Bluds are still scum, though.
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T FORCE US TO LEARN SORDISH AS WELL AS BLUDISH THIS IS LITERALLY CULTURAL GENOCIDE
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>be nationalist
>be isolationalist
>closed borders
>capitalism but with limitations
>the only ally is Agnolia
>no big defensive pact
>gandarmerie is left as a part of the army
>say fuck off to Rumburg's demands
>follow Iosef's doctrine to the word
>fully fund military
>army loves me
>no bribes taken
>right before the second term elections get couped by Iosef
>the reason for that? there was chaos on the streets for some time becasue Blud chimpout so we had to coup you, there was virtually no other way, rest in piss you won't be missed "mr. President"

Yeah, fuck this game.
He was literally the only person that I didn't piss off at some point and yet he was the one to coup me because there were riots??? It wasn't even some long term problem it happend just at the very end of the game after the dam fiasco. Rest of the game was mostly peacuful time.
I guess I accidentally made decision that just swtiched some hidden checkbox somewhere and no matter other circusmances he was set to coup me.

Yes I'm mad.
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>>1674296
Did you execute Soll or something? I've never been couped like this unless I've tried to join the CSP.
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>>1674296
Either you said communistic shit like "comrade" and "praise malenyev" to his face or you were just too impopular
Did you go to war? War fixes all your problems
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>>1674306
No I did not. I also won new constitution vote with overwhelming majority effectively mending the nation together.
Apparently large unrest right at the end of the game is all that it takes for him to coup you. The game simply ignores all your past actions at that point it seems.
I was really pissed becasue Iosef of all people couping me invalidated any decision I made during the game and made me realize how poorly written it actually is.
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>>1674311
Your game probably was bugged I'm >>1673889 and was absolutely hated by everyone (except Iosef, I did the same as you) and had high unrest until I won the war
Or maybe you weren't sollist enough
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>>1674308
Never said any leftist stuff. I avoided that like plague. If anything I was more on the fascist side but not really. I didn't ban either Reds or Young Sords for example.
Funny shit is, game cucked me out of war becasue Iosef jailed me before it started. That was also really stupid becasue considering his character he would not compromise leadership of the country in the eve of giant war with Rumburg. In the epilogue game didn't even mention anything about the war despite all signs pointing to Rumburg invasion being imminent. I mean I accepted whistleblower, I bombed them in retilation and told them to FOAD. They would deffinitley invade but game just did it's little coup and pretended that war never happened.
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>>1674314
Should've started the Sordish war machine then, cuckboy.
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>>1674319
What do you mean exactly? I made all the preparations for war that game let me up until the coup.
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>>1674322
Isn't there an option for you to strike first?
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>>1674329
Yes, when Rumburg shoots down your plane
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>>1674296
Should have allied with Rumburg and purged the military.
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>>1674278
its a diverse team chud
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>assembly rejects constitutional reforms

fuck this nigger game!! but at least I fixed the economy
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>>1674720
blud didn't order salad
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getting my constitutional reforms barely passed was legitimately one of the most nail-biting moments in any game i've ever played
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>>1674770
but how did you do it? it was all soll's intervention?
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>>1671799
If Rumburg is not-Russia, what the hell is UC?
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>>1671590
Pretty sure it will just be used against Pales and Wehlen.
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>>1672638
That's what the Anglos thought, yet their best rulers have been Elisabeth 1 and Victoria.
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>>1674867
Not-USSR.
But with Aztecs.
Man, if someone were to look at an ethnographic map of Contana it'd probably be Balkan-tier.
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>>1674901
Or, you know, USSR tier
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>>1674848
It's been awhile since I played, but it was a pretty moderate compromise constitution. I got promise of support from the conservative leader but not the liberal leader (also fuck that corrupt faggot).

As far as Soll went he just showed up and stood there during the vote. I was afraid the whole time he was going to try to pull some shit though.
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>>1674913
Lenin was tatar?
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>>1674919
>not the liberal leader
just promise him vp, guaranteed support and you don't have to actually follow through
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>>1674920
His dad was a quarter of Chuvash (Turkic), Mordvinian (Finno-Ugric), Russian (Slav) and Kalmyk (Mongolic)
His mum was three quarters German and one quarter Swedish. And despite being a Lutheran, it's through her father rightoids keep claiming Lenin was Jewish.
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>>1674939
el goblino de eurasia.....
dios mio.....
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>>1672833
>obscure sub-board of 4chan refuses to bow down is not a threat to mommy.
>Just relax.
Nta, but you sound more ass mad that you got called out for being retarded
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>>1674939
quarter jewish is still jewish
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>>1674968
I'm also not the anon who got called out for being retarded.
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>>1674977
that would be the case, but sadly his granddad was a Protestant Lutheran
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>>1674913
Destiny is a gypsy? KEK
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>>1674989
Huh, he really does look like a Finnish peasant.
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>>1671590
how do you edit government stats again?
i'm a bit annoyed at constantly being like -1 under budget and my cabinet seething at me
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>>1675245
go to your save and edit this.

[\"BaseGame.GovernmentBudget\"]

My question is if anyone got multiple investments to work through save editing. I know it was done before but the person who did it never really said much on how they did.
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>>1674608
All turks
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>>1675301
Lmao, true
"Turkish" is a meme ethnicity and Kemalism was a mistake.
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this game is a nigger
at least it could warm me about the consequences of my actions. like i sign shit about national security and in the next turn it wrecks my tourism? what nigga? really??
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>>1671590
why would a politician be managing troops?
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>>1679111
Because in most monarchies the king is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces
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>>1679133
he's talking about sordland not rizia
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>>1679134
Well, only Rizia has the managing troops mechanic. In Sordland you just authorize the strategies your generals come up with
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>>1679111
ask Hitler
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>>1679234
I wonder how many ways there will be to completely bungle the war. Also whether it will be possible to just say "handle it" to your defense minister and barely even involve yourself
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>>1675380
>have turkic dna
>practice islam
>speak turkic languag
What are they then, peruvians?
Retardo maximo
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>>1679644
Anatolians and Balkanoids LARPing as Turkic peoples.
If having a fraction of DNA makes someone something, then African-Americans are white and I'm a Neanderthal.
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>>1679644
My great great great great grandfather was Mongolian (but no one else since was)
I speak Mongolian
I follow Buddhism
I am Mongolian
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>>1679300
judging the trailer it seems their goal was to shift the game's focus towards the political sim end of the slider this time, providing players with greater agency. and it is much needed shit indeed, considering how many times I've wrecked Sordland into a spiralling loop of economic collapse just because the game forces me to to make decisions without adequate information
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>>1679854
But won't Rizia make the original Rayne scenario look dated?
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>>1672937
I hope so. Love the game but plenty of times it feels like you have no control over what's happening unless you know all the outcomes and things that affect eachother.
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I'm sure this conversation has been done to death but Monica really is a sucky wife. I understand from her perspective why she does what she does but she is such a bad wife for a President of a nation. She isn't written bad as a character except for the main issue being in some worlds she marries essentially a neo-nazi and is then shocked when he wants women in the home. I understand the devs won't just delete her parts from the story but it really does spoil her character in those playthroughs.
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>>1671813
Sordland is in a turkey-like position, but the country itself is also a lot similar to Germany. Especially the names, and how they're mostly white.
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>>1672865
Isn't he a commie? I doubt he'll be a fan of a monarchist nation, especially when we're literally related to queen bitch of rumburg.
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>>1674913
>Waltuh
>I'm a Tatar waltuh
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>>1681067
You're*, fuck, how did i mess that up
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>>1681061
>Smolak
>commie
Nigga what
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>>1681071
He is literally the leader of the Socialist Party of his country.
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>>1681076
>>1681061
the Wehzek Nationalist Party of Nurist Socialism
so we got
>Nationalist
>Nurist
>Socialist
basically left, right and centre (the leading party of Agnolia is also the Nurist Democratic Party)

But lets cut straight to the case, Smolak is Saddam Hussein. But lets also cut straight to the case, the devs don't know what a failed state is or they failed to depict it properly, because Hussain's Iraq was never a failed state. The closest country Wehlen resembles today is Myanmar. And while it's instable, it's far away from being a failed state such as Somalia and Libya.

And unlike what the game implies, Saddam while being in the Baath party, split of from the Syrian Baath party, couped against the leftist government with heavy help from the Americans for the sole purpose of attacking and destabilising Iran. Smolak was supported by UC and they didn't egged them to attack the Deridian theocracy.
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>>1681102
>Smolak is Saddam Hussein
And Lukashenko, and bit of Bashar too
Honestly he is every "non liberal" ruler stereotype rolled into one
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>oligarchs? in prison
>old guard? buckbroken
>colonel Soll? rotting in prison
>liberals? coping and seething
>rascist chuds? dialating
>Bluds status? loved and cared about
>Homelessness and poverty? eradicated
man the game is easy when you take care of reactionnaries and the old guards and the oligarchs all at once, taking care of the liberals is easy specially when you are the one that liberalised the constitution and not them
just make sure to not show that you're a commie and defund the army and thats it
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>>1680971
>marries sollist
>divorces him for being a sollist
der eternal w├Âman
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After playing the game enough I'm not sure what "liberalism" even is. Like, I could be the most benevolent hyper-capitalist ever, but because I (an elected official) have more power than the assembly, that's considered tyrannical. It's all nonsense.
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>>1679882
yeah i hope it will make it look dated. this game needs more grand strategy elements
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>>1674943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
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>>1682188
avatarfagging is a bannable offense
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>>1682203
Who's avatarfagging?
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>>1682204
leninfag, idk what else to call him
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>>1682212
Are you the guy I mindbroke, because I posted one too many Lenin react pics?
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>>1682214
not denying that you're avatarfagging then
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>>1682217
That's... not what avatarfagging is.
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>>1680971
She fails on several levels, but it actually became worse with the update as you can be upfront about not caring and when you call her out on that she just says she thought she could change you.
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>>1682232
I CAN FIX HIM
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>>1680971
In my opinion, Monica is the common flaw these CYOA type of game tend to have. Usually the world is presented in a way that things act based on who you choose to be, but there's always certain parts of the game in which something just doesn't feel right for all playthroughs, like that thing was made with a specific type of playthrough in mind.
In this case, Monica feels like she was written for a reformist Rayne with progressive ideas. You play as something else and Monica just feels out of place
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>>1682427
Monica is a progressive liberal, yes. Not an extension of (you). What is the issue?
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>>1682445
She doesn't has to be an extension of the MC, but if there's a way to choose the character's background, things should act based according to that. But even if your character has been a sollist since the beginning, choose to perserve national values and all that, Monica acts like she's not aware of all that, until you act against her ideals (which she should expect given that she has been married to the MC for a long time).
So the problem it isn't her being a progressive liberal, it's just the fact that she doesn't act according to who the MC is.
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>>1682448
>politically ignorant
>right up until your face meets a wall
>erected by a significant other
Perfectly realistic, to be honest.
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>>1682451
>also easily manipulated and lets the issue drop if you just let her fail on her own and then say you're too busy with important shit to help her
people who complain about her legitimately have skill issues with women
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>>1688872
You died because you weren't paying attention/made stupid choices
You can be right on the far corner of authright and still get a good ending
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>>1688911
This game is literally impossible to play without a guy.
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>>1688924
Unless you know how the real world works. (You don't.)
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>>1688938
>Unless you know how the real world (as imagined by turkish diaspora in germany) works
Fixed for you
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>>1688959
Thanks for confirming.

No mention of communism, btw? Just straight to the racism? Weak.



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