how do i play spartans in aeo2?are there any mods that somehow enable campaign special units in single player skirmish?
>>1900124>how do i play spartans in aeo2?pump out as many hoplites as you canthat's itSpartan infantry is stupid good but they're trash at literally everything else also build forts, Spartans don't get walls but they do get murderholes and trebuchets, if nothing else forts can be a good deterrent >are there any mods that somehow enable campaign special units in single player skirmish?doubt it, dlc's been out for a week, but I'm pretty sure all those assets are available in the editor thingy so I'm sure someone will make something >picgood tastelove that dude's art
>neither gayreek civ got bonuses to skirmishers >also no skirmisher cavwhat the fuck is this?
>>1900142Age of Amongus?
>>1900124L stands for Lakonia
>>1900254Laconia, as in laconic, as in 'not many words'? Double kek.
>>1900254everyone knows m8. the joke is that its simple (and laconic), not that people dont know why there would be an L
>>1900433ди нгaхyй
>>1900153>Athenians getting charge attacks on their skirmishers and Spartans getting 50% training time reduction on skirmishers doesn't count as skirmisher bonuses because.... it just le doesn't, ok???whatever you say, bárbaros>>1900218didn't even notice the map kekstill, Athens best girl
>>1900466>still, Athens best girlI don't know...that Spartan is doing things to me
>>1900124>fanky eyes making the jokeThe joke is - sex.
>>1900142i thought she had a gatling gun for an arm. That would've been much cooler
How do I stop my archer blob from targeting 1 unit at a time and wasting arrows?Also, what's the deal with attack move vs patrol? Is there really a difference?
Spartans need a fast infantry unit imo
>>1900258That's where the word comes from, yes.
>>1900658>How do I stop my archer blob from targeting 1 unit at a time and wasting arrows?Stop micro: using the stop command and let archers decide their targets
Timed scenarios are annoying. Let me explore in peace.
>>1900560>that Spartan is doing things to meit's gonna be those two Theban girls doing things to her when Epaminondas gets his way...
>>1900796>All Thebans are liars. -Epaminondas the Theban
The magyar voice lines are really lolw quality huh
>>1900466Shouldn't she be chiseling a big booby muscle woman? I don't understand these artists who just can't do it right.
>>1900817>play own country>monk voice actor is good>military voice actor is good>male villager has some weird lines, but is clearly pronouncing things right or at least trying his best>female villager can't even pronounce basic words correctly, can't even do basic consonant sounds selecting villagers makes me irrationally angry 50% of the time I can't fucking handle it I hate women so goddamn much
>>1900828Why would she do that? Athenians were obsessed with men.
>>1900892greeks in general viewed women as kitchen maids and childbearers only, they viewed men as beautiful and had young men lovers instead of women. Greeks were extreme faggots but we tend to omit that from history lessons
>>1900909Admiring male figure is not being homosexual, stop projecting.
>>1900910https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Greece>The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece amongst elite circles was between adult men and pubescent or adolescent boys, known as pederasty>The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identity as modern Western societies have done. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated.[8] Within the traditions of pederasty, active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth.>Admiring male figure is not being homosexual, stop projecting.it's okay to be a faggot, anon. You admire naked male bodies just like ancient greeks did.
>>1900934>Wikipedia anythingNo
>>1900817Persian, Armenian and Burgundian are really fucking shit.
>>1900969>find me a source that supports my headcanonno such source exists, m'faggot.
>>1900969Faggots TO THIS DAY day still think of themselves as not gay by dicking down assholes.
>>1900981ok dude, this is not your diary and nobody asked what you did today
age of empires 2?
>>1900796Oh, the humanity...nice, spartan bullies me, who is in turn bullied by the thebans into submission
Anyone wanna play team games?
>>1901230not for the next 2 weeks from me... :(
How the hell are you supposed to sack those cities in the Spartan level where you need to get gold for ships? The teal city has annoying priests, big army and keeps making more units.
what a great DLCmakes up for the last one
>>1901272get trebuchets, the mercenary camp has them
>>1901268Guess I'll ask on the next thread
>>1900892If it's a world where women hold political and military power they would be chiseling big booby muscle women you stupid worthless faggot
>>1901311Yeh but that camp is quite far down the road. Managed 83 ships anyway but still.
Any mods that play AoE1 music instead of AoE2 when you play as the new civs in skirmish?
>Play Spartans>"Hail Napoleone!">Play Persians>"Jamaica!!!"What gives?
is there even a single reason to actually go for the swordsman line over hoplites
>>1901810hoplites aren't affected by suppliesswordsmen with equal resources accounting for gold win outresource efficiency vs. pop efficiency
I've finished most of the campaigns that I care about in the base game, which of the DLCs have the best campaigns?
>>1901832>Return of Rome>The Mountain Royals>Battle for GreeceI mean these DLCs specifically
>>1901832the campaign in the latest one is great
>>1901810gold efficiency basically
>>1901810you're playing persians
assuming that future chronicles dlcs are forthcoming, it seems likely they will follow a similar pattern to battle for greece>focused on a specific period in history with more granularity than regular aoe2 (ie: instead of greeks, spartans and athenians. instead of celts, scots and irish. instead of chinese, wei han and shu. etc.)>focused on a period of history with many ups and downs for its various players (crusades, perhaps.)>focused on a period with potential for unique mechanics from standard aoe2 (oystering, policies, etc.)please theorycraft with me about what future chronicles dlcs could be about.
>>1901994Philip II shows up in the final cutscene, so 'Chronicles: Rise of Macedon' is my betI think it'd be really cool if they just picked up where Battle for Greece left off with the Thebans fighting the Spartan hegemony and then overthrowing them as the first chapter, then switching to Philip II's perspective with him turning Macedon from a fractured backwater kingdom with barely an army into the hegemonic power of Greece and later we follow Alexander as he absolutely dumpsters the Persian Empire and conquers everything from Epirus to India
>>1902019Macedon would be nice>Companion cavalry at the castle>Unique upgrade to hoplite to get them 1 range sarissas
>>1901994I want Age of Chivalry: Hegemony polished and ported into AoE2 DE.
Why do people like this DE edition, it looks like shit compare to HD.
Actual dumbass
If they're going to make the new dlc campaigns this easy they should had a fourth difficulty setting for people who actually know how to use hotkeys
>>1902272DE looks far better, it has far better animations and the units look like units instead of a couple of pixels on the screen. You are just a jaded contrarian faggot.
>>1902454don't reply to obvious bait.
>>1902309ok big guy we get it you're a pro SP gamer
how do you play Athens?buff Hoplites or buff archery range units? they seem decent at both.
I think the Athenian allies dont really work as intended in the last level. they barely harassed me, only send over a few ships and all their buildings can easily be take out by leviathans. I saw some had filled transports but they moved their units to the Athenian side or not at all.
Are generals allowed now? Should we make a pastebin and get some links in the OP from now on?
>>1902705Are you still not tired of OPs being all the same boring repetitive gibberish in generals? Why do you even feel the need to make a pastebin
>>1902705everything is allowed now, we have a football manager thread and mods refuse to take it down because /vst/ - Sports, Roguelikes and Fighting Games. There are no rules
>>1902730What genre would footbal manager be if not vst? The Suzerain thread was completely out of place
>>1900658i guess you could split them into two control groupsor press the split stance then let them target the closest targetst. 600 elo
>>1902743>What genre would footbal manager be if not vst?sports. Sports games genre. If football manager is a strategy, then farming simulator is strategy too.
>>1902800Aren't simulators their own genre?
>>1902810aren't sports games their own genre?
Wish the dlc would've found a way to include Nicias and Alcibiades
Are there any good mods and custom campaigns that I should check out?
>>1903115everything in victors and vanquished (except like two maps) is available on the workshop
Now what?
>>1903222now we wait for chronicles 2
>>1903222I got that second achievement despite researching all of the infantry techs at the wonder.
>>1903222go for the final achievement: have fun
>>1903232Buddy, I wish.
>>1903222>play a different age campaign>play another strategy game>read a history book>get a social life>directly confront how devoid of purpose your life is until you go insanechoose one of the above
>>1903284I already made up my mind
>>1902586Given the economic bonuses, they're adaptable which is the point. The default policy is kind of ridiculous by just being better Romans and Strategoi are usable as glass cannons for either, giving you more punch on any unit.In a random map game, I'd imagine FC into Hoplites probably wouldn't be bad in pocket?
>four lakes 1v1>me magyars, him huns>archers starts harrassing my eco in feudal, I defend with towers and skirms>as we hit castle age he instaintly drops two castles + siege + monastery outside my base>he pokes my castle, raises a few buildings>imp>his trebs and trash claim all my TC, castle and whole army>meanwhile I have been booming into 2x his vil count>sneak all my vils to the side of the map>leave 10 farmers behind as decoy>it works>while he has a standing army of 40 in my old base trebbing houses waiting for me to resign I build a new base with castle>check out his base with a knight>dude has been on 1 TC no dock the whole time 1 hour in>fuck up his economy>his answer is to keep building castles in the middle>I mass an army of horses + trebs and pick them off one by oneafter the 2h mark victory has never felt so sweetanalysis: he bested me in agression and early strat, but failed on eco, microing and unit counters. also my eAPM was double his
What setting do you guys want the next Chronicles to be in?
>>1900124I don't get the Spartan one. What fucking else lambda is supposed to represent if not L?
>>1903493It's a joke about laconism
>>1901398Imagine calling anybody a faggot while being this mad that women are attracted to men. Cope, seethe, dilate, tranny
>>1903475Charlemagne campaign featuring some combination of Saxons, Lombards, Basque, Umayyads, Avars
>>1903500Oh...Oh...Good one. And now I feel like a moron, too.
>>1903509Don't worry about it. I just love historical jokes with anime girls
>>1903475viking conquests all the way until wilhelm the conqueror
>>1903475crusades
The fuck, why are some DLC civs unlocked? Are the devs doing some kind of free weekend type deal to bait DLC sales?
>>1903512>anime girlsThey were supposed to look like anime girls? They just look like gaijinegroid cartoon characters.
>>1903762they made it so the first 3 dlcs are bundled up with the base game nowthey also made it so you can't buy the base game standalone anymore, which fucks me over because I've been waiting for it to go down to below 10 bucks on sale before buying it
>>1903764Go to OP post, you inbreed
>>1903772That's what I'm referring to, dumb ESL.
>>1903462On four lakes you need to prioritize taking 2-3 lakes, the lakes allow you to spam cav in castle age. Also you should open scouts first, you are making a lot of food from your fish, you can make your own range a little later you will have like 10+ on wood.>>1903762The devs stated that they are giving away the 3 earliest DLC's.>>1903767It will go on sale
>>1903762haha get freebie'd boy
>>1903767Why didn't you buy the game for less than 10 bucks which has been pretty much every seasonal sale in the past few years?
>>1903806Because I didn't feel like playing aoe 2 back then
Not sure if I should get v&v
>>1903836play it on the workshop and decide if the other two maps are worth the $13
>>1903846How good are the other two maps? How long does it take to complete them?
If there were a tournament that allowed Battle for Greece civs, do you think any of them would see play?
>>1903855Athens is just Romans with better economy for archers or even knights.Idk about the others, Persians might be op in some configs
Romans should get chronicles unit skins.
>>1903870celts, goths, and huns as well
Why is Persia and Assyria and Babylon doing so good nowadays?
>Laconia>Laconia>LaconiaYou morons do know the city-state was actually called Lacedaemon, right? And that Laconia is just the modern Greek region?
>>1903879Agreed. Keep their architecture though.Celts will never happen though because of the tutorial campaign.
>>1903896We know we just don't care for such faggy pedantry
>>1903906>we knowIf you said Laconice, I could pretend to believe you.
>no sale on aoe2de due to them recently including the dlc into the basegamesad.
>>1903903>Turn on Antiquity Mode>Celts now use Chronicles buildings and tech treeSimple as
>>1903855>water map>everyone picks Athens 100% of the time
>>1903836>>1903846five of the missions are new
>battle at the kalka riverFuck this mission jesus christ
>>1903512They werent destroyed though
>>1903764They look anime-ish to me>>1904117They were soundly beaten and their lands ravaged thoughever
Is anybody trying the public update preview? Anything cool?
So sicilians are bulgarians, but worse on land and slightly better on water?
>>1904281Patch Notes where
Someone made an Alexander the great custom campaign. Its pretty good so far.
>>1903972>Make medieval ships deal bonus damage vs antiquity shipsFixed
>>1904287There is no patch notes because there isn't an update yet
>>1904283uhh... purely socio-economic factors
>>1904283Nobody is taking Bulgarians over Sicilians in any tournament except maybe BF and even then without a pond you're worse than Sicilians.
>>1904283Sicilians>Early unique unit gets surprisingly hardy for infantry; supplanting villagers for building towers is one advantage>Donjons are an outright replacement than a supplementary building>Farm upgrades are ridiculously wood efficient if they can be kept safe>+100 stone upfront is far more flexible>Net bonus damage reduction across soldiers actually works well in Feudal especially and makes generic Camels more questionable against Knights, but does nothing at all for Crossbows and/or Knights trading>Knights are otherwise generic until Hauberk>Fast building on TCs and castles are excellent for booming and forward or defensive play, respectively>More conversion resistance after pulling mystery niggas out of your ass, which needs five (5) TCs to maximize>Team bonus is only good on naval maps, but can help scout water early in and landings become more practicalBulgarians>Unique unit competes with other cavalry options that are above average; Sitrrups is great either way>Kreposts are tougher as lower commitment buildings, but you still need a Castle for key unique techs>Cheap blacksmith upgrades allows for easy tech into different units alongside a useful team bonus>TCs save on stone instead, decent but only 100 if you just build two more>Discounted siege techs are nice, but still slow>Also saves a fair amount of resources on infantry upgrades - good for a MAA rush, though Bagains somewhat offsets this later in>Surprisingly decent cavalry archers too for a European civ not called Magyars, but one of two civs to have no crossbows whatsoever>Arguably has better lategame trash of the twoSicilians are also one of the more altered civs post-release; the bonus damage reduction was nerfed, both techs used to be single-use with no lingering benefits (Scutage also just sucked), Castle build speed used to be a lot faster, the team bonus changed two times, Donjons only trained Serjeants, and a lot of little tweaks.
>>1904560>Sicilians are also one of the more altered civs post-releaseDidn't they also have a bonus to transport speed for a while?
>>1903972>>1904289What would probably help is if AoE II civs got some kind of scouting ship when making their first dock in Antiquity mode. Dock and Shipyard team bonuses aren't compatible either. These civs might be made for the campaigns but it's a bullshit not to balance them for even just skirmishes: it's easier to adjust scenarios and those are fundamentally made ridiculous with the hero auras going on anyway, and AoE II campaigns manage just fine despite Forgotten Empires's competitive-focused balancing.Like, for fuck's sake:>Athenians' default policy is better than the sole Romans' economic bonus, which is already a solid buff, and have a trickle of food via lumberjacks on top of that>Strategoi give the player's everything military at least +1, maybe some interesting implications with ranged units>Spartans are all over the place, a Polemarch can pull some unexpected wins and harass villagers, but his death is a huge setback for TC production, Hippeus are also a weird Huskarl/TK blend who are slow and hit like pool noodles compared to most infantry, even just missing Shock Cavalry and Siege Engineers probably makes them too one-note in Imperial>Hoplites have UU armor for some reason despite being regional, so Spartans would especially have to try to end a game against Japanese quickly or else they're completely fucked, retard strength simply doesn't work against Nipponese steel folded 9001 times>Achaemenids are probably the least 'problem civ' of the three, but Reed Arrows alone are better than the inherent Mongol, Saracen, and Ethiopian attack speed bonuses combined; why would you ever not want this over Sparabaras?I'd actually like to see some mixed games be more practical, or at least a contained Chronicles metagame of sorts when more expansions drop for it. But there's a lot of work to do.>>1904561Used to be transport ship armor, then a free transport. Now it's a buff to their LOS and lowered cost.
>>1904560Sicilians? More like Sissylians.
>>1903222now you RETVRN TO TRADITION
>>1903475just continue the story>Chronicles: Rise of Macedon>Chronicles: Punic Wars>Chronicles: Mithradatesand keep going until you get to Augustus
opinions on buffing the handcannoneer? i'm all for it. :)
>>1904593Sure. Buff Handcannons by buffing infantry.
Is this the worst campaign in AoE2?
>>1904283The main difference is that the sicilians can allow for a lot of silly strats, like the youpudding strat, they build tc/castles fast af so they can castle/tc drop pretty well and the +100 stone is nice for walling people in too. Bulgarians are just a strong late game civ while sicillians are just a weak civ in general but with meme strat potential.
>>1904579>buff to their LOScomplete nothingburger
>>1904660brown and black people campaigns are pretty shit in general
>>1904660just boom hard and go hussar + camel archersit's pretty much the same process as mission 1 but easier since you aren't stuck in castle age
>>1904687Not terrible but highly situational. Better on a Migration-style map, but a 50w transport with boosted LOS is plenty usable for early water scouting before the warships get out. Would you take it over something like cheaper Docks? Probably not.>>1904660It's one of the most boring. Worst would be El Dorado
>>1904660No. Yodit is.
>>1904688Rajendra and Gajah Mada were amazing and Sundjata was pretty cool too.
>>1904591Interesting. What civs would they have?
>>1904117>Sparta pushed out of Laconia, never to take it back>Sparta as a city reduced to a 3rd rate shithole>Spartans as society so completely broken, they nearly died out on their own in next two generationsYeah, I heard about that great Spartan comeback from the grave.
>>1904747This. I loved the Sundjata campaign. African King Arthur is dope.
>>1904748>Rise of MacedonProbably Thebes, Macedonia, and some random Indian civ.>Punic WarsI would wager Etruscans, Romans, and Carthaganians.>MithradatesI don't want to play Pontus.
Fuck Cleon.
>>1905011Cimon, man.
I hate this mission so fucking much.
>>1904748>Rise of MacedonMacedon, Thebes and the Hindus Valley kingdoms >Punic WarsRome, Carthage and the Iberians>MithradatesPontus, Armenia, Bythinia(if they don't want to just recycle the Romans for this one)
>>1905061Are you playing on hard? It was quite easy on moderate when I just send ships on a raid and gave soldiers to my allies
>>1905109>Are you playing on hard?Yes like any respectable person.
>>1905108>Hindus Valley kingdomsI honestly have no idea what their campaign would be.>IberiansSame for them.
>>1905011based
>do literally anything>get glowing golden achievmentnobody is playing this game anymore...
>>1905115I was just trying to get to three civilizations under the assumption they can reuse assets from previous Chroniclesalso as enemies, it'd be weird having elephant riding indian kindoms being just generic persians or not having Carthaginian allies represnted at all
>>1900433>not that people dont know why there would be an LI can guarantee you 99% of the troglodytes that often this site have no clue what Lacedaemonia is.
>>1905135sounds like a flesh eating bacteria.
>>1905116why is she black
>>1905117>14.5k in-game>Win a Game as the Celts - 51.4% completed a tutorial mission>William Wallace - 17% completed the tutorial campaign>2 Wild Boars in the Dark Age - 42.2%Is it just the terminally autistic, MPnigs?Like, holy shit.
>>1905146I guess most players are just old fags playing MP forever but I only play campaigns, partly because I can't login to the microsoft account.
>>1905146majority of players are REALLY bad at the game and play exclusively sim city random matches against easy AI
>>1905146MP wins count towards achievements. With an older player base who has most likely played HD and other previous versions, seems unlikely the tutorial would have a high play rate. Boar one is weird.
>>1905221Seems like there is just plenty of people that buys the game or got it for free and just never opened it
>>1905146The other thing is whether how many people actually have played the game than having it sit in their library, this happens a lot on Steam. Also, this game has been around for 25 years, so people may not feel the need to do Wallace's in DE.
>>1903945this sucks, hopefully it will go during the winter sale in 2 weeks
>>1905108No Parthia?
>>1905117Always reminds me that TW3 achievement for finishing opening tutorial area, about 2 hours of playing iif you want to clear it out fully.24.something %3 out of 4 people didn't finish a fucking tutorial in a game that lasts for well over 120 hours in baseline
>>1905350tutorials are for weak faggots
>>1905146This is like the fifth time I bought/downloaded this game before I got it on steam so I can imagine its the same for more people that didnt bother replaying campaigns.
>Daut v Larry in WWCup 2 ROUND OF 16Who are you rooting for
>>1905482daut, always and forever.
>>1905482vipah
>>1905482THE LORD
>>1905117DLC achievements in particular are pretty rare for this game. Most people are fine just playing multiplayer, and many of them are just fine playing the base game civs.
was a fun dlc , also that ending hinting a Alexander story next
>>1905145we wuz greeks
>>1905116>appear in one (1) scenario>become one of the most likeable charactershow did they do it
>>1905530Artaphernes and Aristides were the coolest characters. Datis was also nice starting as a quasi-rival to Artaphernes but ended up becoming bros.
>>1905530>Alexander story nextMacedonians, Ptolemaians and Seleucids?
>>1905221I know they do. Boars IS the indicator of MPfags. I play occasionally, and campaigns only, I DO NOT have that achievement. I don't think even the tutorial campaign gives you the opportunity for it. I would need to launch skirmish, or MP to get it. Most likely.
i maek knight
>chiakaramchataiframaia
>>1905627Sex with villager woman
>"NOOO ITS MY VICTORY , ITS MINE NOT SPARTA YOU FAGGOT AEGIS YOU HEAR??!"what the fuck was his problem?
>>1905585agree i loved artaphernes bassicaly having always to chase aristagoras as the little fag always fled very comedic
>>1905636>what the fuck was his problem?spartan
Why is this game so fucking stressful to me? Even just playing campaigns my eyes go bloodshot so quickly
>>1905627>konami!
>>1905584by doing literally nothing wrongAthens died with him...
>>1905636Spartans were all autistic assholes, but if it makes you feel any better he gets his comeuppance when the Athenians with the help of the Thebans kill him in battle
As much as I love the new campaign, it really is too easy even on hard. But maybe the last third is where the difficulty is.
>>1905788the only difficult mission is the one with the election gimmick
>>1905790Oh yeah well I bet all your men died at Thermopylae
WAKE UP ALREADYIT'S SEBASTIAN VS FREAKING ANDY TODAY
Wandering Warriors Cup 2Round of 16 today/tomorrowhttps://liquipedia.net/ageofempires/Wandering_Warriors_Cup/2>Streamshttps://www.twitch.tv/t90official (co-host) (faggot)https://www.twitch.tv/dave_aoe (co-host)Schedule is post picPotential spoilers of results
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If I make a lobby and select civ set: AoE2 + Battle for Greece, can my friends that don't own the DLC select the B4G civs?
>>1905638
>>1905854This is 4chan. You can say FuckinAndy.
>>1905916>This is 4chan.No. This is Sparta.
>>1906070epic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvYZRskNV3w
TGs are not working right?
>>1905790the regent mission definitely pushes the time limit and tests how well you can quick-boom
Fuck Torone.
>>1902707We can make an all-encompassing pastebin or rentry without shitting up the OP.
>>1905600>I don't think even the tutoriallitterally the first art of war mission gives you two boars
excited? hope memb casts
>>1905600Nah, pushing deer is for mpfags, most single player gamers can hunt boars.
>>1906362Is it being played now? Then yeah, really happy for another tourney being played in office hours.
>>1906368Pushing deer is absolutely a waste of scouting time.Send 4 villagers to deer with no mill, they get all the food and walked for ~10 secondsSend 4 more to the other two deer, shift clicking them so they don't waste any food.Very rarely you'll get harassed by doing this at 1400 elo at least.
>>1905600>Boars IS the indicator of MPfags>>1906368>pushing deer is for mpfags>>1906418>Pushing deer is absolutely a waste of scouting time.>Send 4 villagers to deer with no mill, they get all the food and walked for ~10 seconds>Send 4 more to the other two deer, shift clicking them so they don't waste any food.I'm convinced this thread does not actually play the game.
>>1906425They don't.
I need a list of all good custom campaigns.The mod list on ageofempires.com is quite unusable and full of chink language campaigns.
>>1906433I'm not surprised
>>1906425They don't but if someone can get away with milling deer then it's whatever
>>1906418Its absolutely worth pushing deer in so that you get the food in faster. My rule of thumb is find the sheep and then go to deer
>>1906490Have you done some tests in the scenario editor? Overall I notice pushing deer is worth just a tiny bit quicker food vs sending out hunters, if you have berries up it's negligible.
>>1906438How can you stomach Armenian voice acting, Ghostmaster? It's almost as bad as the Persian voices.
>>1906558Does not bother me at all, I kinda became fond of the deep Armenian soldier voice, male villager sounds kinda dumb but I can ignore it.And believe, Persian voicelines are not the worst, Gurjara and Georgian voicelines are the fucking worst in this game.
>>1906557Man do you even read your posts? How can deer under the TC could be possibly on the same level of berries
>>1906467>if someone can get away with milling deer then it's whateverThe thing is that you cant get away with it.Only Armenians and Georgians can get away with it, since ox cart can collect hunt and roam the map for food.Caucasus civs are amazing in Land Nomad for that reason.
>>1906569>How can deer under the TC could be possibly on the same level of berries6 on berries can keep up villager production. Once the hunters arrive you'll have the same total amount of food as pushing deer.
>>1906575No you fucking wont, luring in 3 or 4 deers with Scout will yield way more food way quickier than collecting berries, without the 100 wood investment nor the villager walking timeIt's like you are spreading misinformation on purpose
>>1906583You might get the food negligibly quicker yes, but it's the same total amount of food in the end.What matters is to keep TC working fulltime until you advance and berries won't stop you from that.You need 2 buildings for feudal, 1 lumber camp and 1 mill is enough. Build your barracks as you advance unless you want to do any fancy militia rush.
>>1906584>You might get the food negligibly quickerMUCH faster, and having a fast feudal time is key to not bloody die, luring deer will always be optimal compared to wasting 100 wood milling deers or having a lot of dead villager walking time hauling food from the deer patch to your TC.Also if you want to do MAA rush you will need a barrack BEFORE clicking feudal so milling deer just to make another mill on berries is not an option, nor is walking to the deers.Luring deer will ALWAYS be the correct call.
>>1906584>What matters is to keep TC working fulltime until you advanceand you get to advance much faster when you've pushed deer, which in turn makes your rush better
deer pushing is too much micro for the average player and just leads to idle time, this is knownberries are the safer bet if you're bad at micro, deer are better if you can micro well. it's that simple.
>>1906589>a lot of dead villager walking timeIt's not a lotYou need 1 mill for farms either way, you're putting that on your berries.>>1906604>advance much fasterHow much faster? Collecting berries isn't that slower and the total food from 4 deer is exactly the same if you pushed or not. Using 4 villagers guarantees you won't let anything to rot as they walk and the time they take to TC is often barely nothing. They couldve collected what, a total of 10 food if you pushed deer? That's nothing.>>1906633It's not even about micro it's about using your scout to explore the map, keep tabs on your opponent, steal their sheep, bother a villager or two, find out their early build. If you just use your scout to slowly push deer to the tc for 3% faster food collection you're just wasting time.
Oikodomēo!
>>1905865S U P P L I E SUPPLIES
>>1906750prostagmata?
>>1906750metaLERO.
9/10 times I see pro pick vikings in 1v1 in a tournament, he loses. It always gives me the feeling vikings suck ass but they have a 52% win rate overall. Are they just super noob friendly skewing results in low elos?
>>1906796Noobs can't micro galleys so they make fires and Longboats destroy fires so yes.
>>1906744it’s literally about the micro of taking time from everything else to babysit the scout pushing the deer, this is literally too much work for the average low elo player to reliably handle and leads to idle vils/tc while they push
>>19067444 villagers walking to a deer off to the side and then walking back is like at least 30 seconds of total villager time wasted PER DEER, that's minutes they could have spent farming or helping with sheep for even faster food income for faster uptimea difference of 1-2 minutes is huge if you're racing against your opponent's rush
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtLAhE6pT2g>viper spoke to a dev about melee units not working properly>dev wasn't sure what was he talking aboutLol how can you NOT play the game you are doing?
>>1906796>WaterOld school naval civ, now faces a fair deal more competition in other civs that can match them there.>LandAn infantry civ that lost Thumb Ring to incentivize using them. You can guess how that goes. Free Wheelbarrow/Hand Cart is good, but you're later split between two unit lines that both kind of want a unique tech each to stand out.
>>1907148Coding and playing are two completely separate actions anon.You have no idea just how many devs simply do not play their games. Many do not play any games AT ALL. Most only play gachashit on their phones or switch gmaes and consider sitting down on a keyboard/controller as 'work'.
>>1906796Pros overemphasize the free weelbarrow because 'oh wow i just gained 3 villagers' but what is the point of free villagers if your civ sucks
>>1907171>Coding and playing are two completely separate actions anon.Didn't realize>You have no idea just how many devs simply do not play their games.It was clear from the beginning that devs don't even test this mess so playing it was always off the table
>>1907148>>1907171there's a dev team led by Nili (who's a pro player himself and has bitched plenty about shitty pathing) that has started working on pathfinding issues recently, so there might be hope of something actually getting fixed for once
>>1907188Sure Nilli
>>1907188isnt he working in a mirror factory now?
OHNONONO, HERA BROS WHAT IS THIS, THIS SET SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BEST OF SEVEN, ITS ALMOST OVER!>>1906557>Push in deer>Have almost all of the food gathered by the time you click 19 pop feudal age.>Long distance>Still collecting deer while aging up, its hard to get a fast uptime because your villagers are delayed by 20 seconds of walk time
>>1906584Its more common to do 19 pop and lower nowadays so yes I would rather have the food quicker and get my archers/scouts out quicker maybe even men at arms
>>1907246wait how is he losing
>>1906796Its rather map dependent, new water civs have powercrept the Vikings, Armenian galleys have extra range, Dravidians have a lot going on water
>>1907252Because when it comes to pro 1v1 matches the results are always closer than whatever the ladder or the crowd says about who is better
>>1907252Hera wants to speedrun first 3k player out of a S-tier tourney
>>1907252It might come down to Houseboat last map, what has Hera got for that, Mayans?I think I have seen Mayans on houseboat but I don't remember seeing them win.
fucking egaloos
How do Mayans deal with cheap hussar into eco?Its looking completely ogre
AJAJAJAJAEVIL HAS BEEN DEFEATED
>Hera eliminated from the tournamentand just like that, suddenly I'm excited to watch this game again
when i make my millions, i'll make tournaments that aren't during 9am-5pm USA.
kino
Tourney with Chronicles civs when?
Just finished the Chronicles campaignIt wasn't the most difficult campaign, but I think this might be the best campaign they have ever done and S-tier at the very least. The characters are memorable, the scenarios are varied, and we got a whole bunch of new things introduced including a changed up naval game
>>1907476>The characters are memorableMore importantly, the dialogue is memorable. From all Ensemble campaigns there is at least one line I can quote by heart and it evokes something within me. As for the FE campaigns, only a handful (even if the campaign itself is good that doesn't mean the narrative is memorable). In Chronicles practically every mission had a quote that left an impression on me, be it because it was well-written, well-performed or just because it was meaningful to the story.
By Zeus, his head came clean off!
>>1900124Anyone know what that custom song t90 plays sometimes is called? It uses 'all hail, king of the losers' soundbyte. Couldn't find it myself.
>>1907482HELP! CRUSSSADERS ARE ATTACKING AR TRADE RUTESSSS
AoE2 DE now officially has something like ~290 scenarios, not counting Return of Rome pushing it over 300 this really is the greatest SP RTS of all time, and arguably the best MP
Guys. Strange request.I am doing an awards show for my friends, we used to play AOE 2 over covid. It was 3v3, river in the middle and then one person on evenly matched up top middle bottom. Can someone tell me what the name of this map is as I need a picture of it. Thank you.
>>1907607Is Google broken
Man I really don't like viper videos when he needs to speak in low volume, can't the baby sleep on the parent's bedroom?
How do we stop this Allah's chosen warrior?He said he's already on the way to 4k.>meanwhile, Viper joining Daut in the has been meme player list
>>1907658he lost 3-1 yesterdayhera is FINISHED and will become another washed up has been like viper before 2026 the mossad has guaranteed it
>>1907607just launch the game lol
I played through almost all the campaigns in AoE2:DE (many of them I already played in HD), but even though I bought Dawn of Dookies on release date, I am keeping that for last. Because /vst/ told me it is the most touching story in AoE2 history and the bestest campaigns ever.Already finished Mountain Royals, Persian last, so now gonna do Babur and the other two Indians. /vst/ also said that those are amazing, but I just cannot imagine how Indian campaigns can be any good.Wish me luck!!!
>>1907681The indian campaigns are all megashit except for the Hindustani one which is ok
>>1907672>>1907609I tried and I cant find it
>>1907683Rajendra is pretty good though.
>>1907688Mountains?
>>1907695Isn't that the classical Highlands map?
>>1907734I also couldn't find it lol
>>1907497unironically kino
>>1907683Honestly I found the Babur campaign to be the weakest. Rajendra is easily among the best in the entire game despite being of one of the worst civs.
>>1907681Rajendra, Jadwiga and Gajah Mada are easily the best campaigns.Other campaigns of the same expansion are decent.
>>1907769>Gajah Mada are easily the best campaigns.t. pinoy
All hail Nicov! The rightful defender of the healthy meta!
>>1907796So I'm that as well as a poojeet and a poolack?
>>1907858watched Hera's stream POV of that final game and he was seething so fucking hard about the demo ships, it was hilarious
>>1907859Your origins are varied and mysterious
>>1907859you are whatever race we project you to be
BY HADES...I THINK THATS MY LIVER..
>>1907946Love this guy.
