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Focus tree fit for a Kang

Previous >>2398850
——-MODDING RESOURCES———
>bit dot ly 3GPdwPD
General Index of tutorials for photoshop, GFX, scripting, etc. This is a google doc, so be aware.

>https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Modding
General article hub on modding, also has a lot of info in general on all pages.

>Text Editors/Coding
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
https://www.sublimetext.com/
https://code.visualstudio.com/

Programs to write out proper syntax for code/scripting. Try to keep everything centralized in one program if possible; experiment and decide which one is right for you.
>https://github.com/
Where 95% of HOI modders nowadays put mods alongside the steam workshop
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———NOTABLE UTILITY MODS———
>Player Led Peace Conferences
Effectively mandatory for all playthroughs where scripted peaces aren’t a factor. Puts (you) in total control of the peace proceedings so post-war Europe/Asia looks pretty.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944

>Toolpack
Gives the player a togglable menu to change party popularity, give buildings, transfer states and annex, etc. Great for getting yourself/an AI country out of trouble, or fixing bordergore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2913150560

>Better AI
Swaps the stock AI package for one that is much more aggressive, and gives them in-game stat buffs. Best for people who think base HOI4 is too easy. Not compatible with mods that also change the AI/unit types.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3369706283

>Industrial Expansion
Adds 5 new building types to refine steel, aluminum, tungsten, chromium and coal. Adds a new infrastructure type of the same name as the mod, adding building slots the more IE is built.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2707538501

———NOTABLE OVERHAUL MODS———
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And now, the news!
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An anon went through the leaked TFR git and began posting screencaps of GFX-complete focus trees, mainly for 1.1 nations. see >>2400037
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First for Gundamn Mechs should not be in TFR outside of April Fools and endgame should only have the most basic prototype that could lead to Gundams far in the future beyond the scope of the mod
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>east india company gets a free offmap civilian factory for a year for every country you sent any amount of volunteers to
hello sirs how can S.C.A.M.S. help u today sirs
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Why did OP make another thread instead of using the other two thread.
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>>2403931
IT'S BEEN HALF A YEAR
WHY ARE YOU STILL ASSHURT THAT NO ONE MIGRATED TO YOUR FAILED BAKES
WHY ARE YOU STILL BUMPING BOTH
YOU'RE THE MOST PATHETIC, SHAMELESS FAG IN THE HISTORY OF THE BOARD
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>>2403912
Make it cavalry so it's cheaper and you can run away from fights
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>>2403942
Cavalry is also good for land grabs, unit blocking and other forms of cheap all while only requiring a tiny amount of additional infantry equipment. All in all, a very underrated unit both for actual gameplay and cheesing alike.
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>>2403940
it will stay no matter how you hate it, you gonna love it in the end. why don't you just simply report it to get it deleted then, faggot?
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>One person has been seething about his dead post for half a year
>Single handedly bumps it and makes hundreds of replies to himself to prop up a dead thread
>Necroposts hundreds of threads every month just to try to push the actual thread off the board to prop up his faggot thread from last year
What even is the point?
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>>2403959
Terminal autism.
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>>2403959
feel free to report the thread if you hate it fag
oh wait you can't
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>>2403979
Letting it stay is the better punishment for you. You've wasted untold numbers of hours bumping a thread and orchestrating entire one-man board raids to promote it. And yet no one posts in it, and every time you shill yourself everyone just points and laughs at how much of a dumb bastard you are. You're only hurting yourself by being this mentally ill and we all laugh at how assmad you are over a botched bake from 2025 not getting any attention.
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>TFR almost at 603K
>TNO still stuck at 598K
The TNO century of humiliation is in full swing.
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>>2403907
True. True.
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>>2404001
1.1 will make tfr overtake tno in visitors and favorites, mark my words
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I hope the Gundam seether gets his comeuppance and that all majors get access to unique mechs with humanoid ones being a split choice in the tech tree.
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The mechs would probably be locked behind a special project or decisions like project babel.
Don't like mechs? Just don't unlock it then.
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PPPFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>2404047
i was playing as the GMC a while ago, mechs will almost certainly be a special project since you can do many smaller projects as the company.
their gameplay outclasses anything on the mod so far, but whatever they might have planned for the other tags might beat it
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>>2404048
desu i wish real tfr had ukraine content
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>>2403901
>Hearts of Iron IV
how come this game has LESS unit deversity than its predecessor

they gave you the option to have a gazillion production lines, producing unicorn-weapons but forgot to make this playstyle viable

in HoI3 if you want a specialized division you can just go ahead and produce it - swapping out AT for AA? Makes little to no difference

Meanwhile in HoI4 you have to scale up production for AA first. Which leads to these ridiculouse scenarios where players build the same god-damn plane from 1940 onwards while not constructing a single piece of AT or AA

GAY GAME
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>>2404064
>why is the latest entry in this series from paradox less complex than the last one
you can ask the same about every paradox game right now
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>>2404048
>Grisha won so hard that the mod for the territories formerly known as Ukraine disbanded
>Total NAFO demoralization across the entire Internet
Even /vst/ underestimated the magnitude of Grisha's win.

>>2404060
Same actually. Ukraine and Belarus could make for a pretty decent package deal. Both have some great gameplay potential but especially Ukraine could use a focus tree given how important they are to the events in the mod.

>>2404064
Look I'm a BICE3 shill but even I'll admit that some of the streamlining in 4 is good for the type of game it tries to be. If I want something overly complex, I can boot up BICE3 and have it crash sixty times. But HOI4's great for comfy runs and hits a sweet spot even if I wish some elements like reserve impact and officers had been kept.
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Actual new thread
>>2334032
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>>2404051
>their gameplay outclasses anything on the mod so far
Even the Cognoscenti? I thought the Judas mini-game was kino.
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>>2404076
nigga let it go you lost
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>>2404076
Why are you so obsessed with getting people to post in your abortion of a thread
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>>2404077
cogno comes close, might be personal preference though
the mini-games the company has are very unique and fun, really makes you feel like you are managing a PMC
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>>2404077
I bet a lot of the same people are working on it so it makes sense that they'd improve with experience.
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>>2404077
>I thought the Judas mini-game was kino.
That was just a PP sink where RNG determined everything.
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>>2404113
you really got them good! congrats mate!
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Reposting in the new thread
>Can I safely ignore COVID as USA? Afaik it disappears the instant 2ACW starts.
>Are there any tricks for finishing 2ACW as quickly as possible?
>Which UoA path is best if I want to get involved in the European War? Which gives the strongest bonuses?
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I'm starting to feel like I only come here to read the monkey arguments of crazy people. I love HOI4 and its mods, but these dramas actually bring me some fun too.

By the way, I just showed up here three days ago, and I have no idea what the hell is going on here, but it's epic.
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>>2404118
No it's just a bad mechanic and it's easier to just ignore it.
>You're le heckin stupid
It's incredibly easy to come with a "hard puzzle" that no one would understand by just writing gibberish and coding esoteric requirements with RNG savescumming requirements on top of it.
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>>2404121
>>can i ignore covid
you mostly can as it only gives debuffs to states affected, but i suggest you protect the states on your territory once the 2acw starts
>>finishing 2acw quickly
there are some good resources on the tfr discord server
>>which uoa path is the best
probably cognoscenti since you get special focuses when fighting the russians, though its only for the 2EW, but you can send volunteers if you finish the 2acw in time
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>>2404124
How do you ignore a mechanic that effectively kills you if you lose? If you're just going to make shit up at least do the base minimum basic research so that it isn't obvious that you're talking out of your ass. It isn't even RNG. Just read the clues you get. It's not that hard but you haven't even played it. This is like when that KX dev pretended to have played the mod based on screenshots he lifted from this very board.

>>2404121
>covid
You can ignore it but it'll hurt your election chances. It's especially worthwhile doing as Trump because he can actually get consumer goods factories down to a level where you can build things before the war starts. As a non fed though just remove it from your homies turf and let the rest of the country rot.
>speedrunning
There are guides on Discord and Reddit. Just look up the faction you're interested in there and someone's most likely written a guide.
>EuroWars as UoA
Cognoscenti are the only ones with serious content for it.
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>>2404147
>How do you ignore a mechanic that effectively kills you if you lose?
It doesn't. It spawns 3 rebel tags that don't take much to take out and then it continues as usual. I'll rather have more gameplay than spend time on pretentious RNG bullshit minigame that's worse than EaW brodfield illuminati event chain
>It isn't even RNG
I may confuse it with other PP sink minigame since they all looked the same and I couldn't be bothered with it since it's just not fun.
>Just read the clues you get.
There's nothing telling you what you're supposed to do and what the clues are. I can't engage with the mechanic without knowing what I'm supposed to look for without looking up a guide.
>It's not that hard
Yea it's not if you look up a guide. I'm not even saying that it's hard, it's just confusing and counterintuitive because tfr have a clear problem of communicating the requirements and tend to have retarded way of doing things. Look up how to get caligula? Is it hard? Not really? Could anyone figure it out without looking up a guide? I don't think so. Calling others stupid because you made a poor mechanic is incredibly pathetic behaviour.
>but you haven't even played it.
I wish I didn't because I felt like the mod wasn't respecting my time. Heck, I regret even talking to you since it just fuels tfrdrama and we could be talking about my mod instead
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Bro wrote an entire paragraph seething about being stupid
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>>2404165
yes lets shit on tno more
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No we should stop promoting TNOphobia and denounce TFR supremacy.
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>>2404173
multipolartitybvlls won tnocucks lost
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>>2404169
>Smart people use RNG in their mechanics in the year 2026
I should stop falling for obvious baits
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>AI slopper never played the mod he's mad about
>Likely only read about the one he promotes
No wonder TNO died.
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>>2404176
thirdworldists are cucks by definition
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>>2404194
>Supports neoliberalism
>Calls others cucked
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>>2404200
both sides are on anti-white slippery slope
neolibs keeping third world on a leash is a good thing
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>>2404202
is importing 1 billion browns to white countries for cheap labor "keeping the third world on a leash"?
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>>2404204
as opposed to importing gorillion shitskins and giving keys to geopolitics to china and india?
yeah
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>>2404202
>neolibs keeping third world on a leash
>open borders
>sending trillions of aid to africa
>global trade
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>>2404205
india is handicapped by its own doing, neolibs fed china and put themselves on a leash by sending all of their industries there
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>>2404202
Ah, so you're that TNO shill that thinks colonialism is still a thing. Good to know that we can ignore everything you write as the utter gibberish it is.
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>>2404204
Keep your enemies clsoer, as they say.
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>>2404208
getting raped by the west is the foundation of thirdworldism
flavor of it really doesn't matter, latinx are whining about cia, chinks are seething about the century of humiliation, russians have 90s live in their heads rent free, same with colonialism for niggers
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>>2404219
Please explain how importing millions of foreigners into America and the EU is a good thing from your standpoint or shut the fuck up. Even if we pretend for the sake of argument that everything you say is true two evils wouldn't make a right, /pol/tard.
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>>2404165
>Illiterate award
One of the clues says that the judas is bringing materials from the mexican border, I wonder if that makes NASA or border patrol more suspect.
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>>2404221
what does this have to do multipolarity?
do you even understand what champions of multipolarity are like?
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>>2404221
If you can't compete against a subhuman nigger then I don't think you were white to begin with.
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>>2404227
>Why do I need to explain the contradictions of my world view and how it collapses when contrasted to reality?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Fuck off retard and stop derailing the thread with your retarded political sperging.

>>2404228
A lobbyist for a globohomocorpo that wants to press down wages wrote this post.
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>>2404229
>i w-win
no you don't
you can't even explain why lettting third world shitholes dominate parts of the globe would be a good thing
and if you think multipolarity = ethnostates for everyone you are genuinely retarded
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>Burt getting /fit/
You can make a whole minigame out of it. The reality of the 2ACW and other events would drive him into stress eating. The more he does this, the worse his mental and physical state get. If not addressed, after a point, bad things start happening to him (he gets couped or worse) or the NSM as a whole.
To counteract this, the player has to make Burt go on a diet/to the gym, but the player can't complete foci while Burt is off getting /fit/. The more /fit/ he gets, the better his mental and physical health.
The player has to balance completing foci with Burt's health.

Yes, this is a blatant ripoff of Abysinnia. If the shoe fits...
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>>2404073
>and have it crash sixty times
don't know about BICE3 but for regualr HOI3 there are fixes for that - never once had a crash since downloading the fix

also yes - HoI4 is better for "comfy" aka. "quick" runs

I can finish a HoI4 run in one setting, can't say the same about HoI3
... but looking back i am not sure if that is really a good thing
but I guess it makesi t better for streamers to play
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This is now a tfr hate thread. TFRetards are
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>>2404235
>you can't even explain why lettting third world shitholes dominate parts of the globe would be a good thing
Of course I can't because that'd objectively bad. You miss the point of the entire thing. You're simply being asked not to support one evil to spite another.

>>2404244
Regular HOI3 runs flawless pretty much. BICE3 is an overhaul mod that makes things more autistic and I enjoyed it a lot but it had some nasty CTD issues. So either you're playing a more in-depth version of the game or vanilla. Maybe it's gotten better with time but I doubt it. Which is a shame because I liked the depth provided by BICE3.
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>>2404253
Not even gonna bother finishing my sentence. Thats how little i see tfretards.
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>>2404125
>>2404147
Managed to eat the rebels by late 2022, hustled to save California ASAP since it was a slog to conquer in my last game under the APLA
Is there a good non-schizo path for UoA? As I understand it, Cognospaghetti requires you to sit on Trump until the rural revolt fires, and I'd rather not wait
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>>2404261
you can defeat trump and still get the insurgency
>any good non-schizo path
the current normal ones are very half-assed and don't have post war content
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>>2404121
>Are there any tricks for finishing 2ACW as quickly as possible?
If you’re planning on playing as Biden, before the war starts focus on building supply hubs at areas you’re going to push like the paths leading to Minneapolis and the oil fields in Oklahoma, and near St. Louis so you can bypass and surround them.
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>>2404261
There have been rumors of a Caligula rework that'll hopefully bring it up to the quality level of Cognoscenti. Until then it's gonna be kinda shitty, just like Trump. But it can still be fun, just go in with the right expectations. It may not have post-war content but both federal tags let you elect a president and bookend your campaign nicely. So if you're a Bernout you can do a progressive wish fulfillment run and if you're ridin' with Biden you can have him get re-elected and so on. It's not much but it's alright. When I play Trump I usually just 5 speed after winning for a but, rebuild the country, GDP-max for a bit and then get my final president in by 2028.
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>>2404261
Nobody cares tfrfaggot
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>>2404270
>>2404257
>>2404253
So much this, let's stop talking about that shitty, extremist teaser mod, and instead talk about TNO and what we like about it.
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>>2404267
> Until then it's gonna be kinda shitty, just like Trump.
I think Trump's current content is fun, but I do wish Libertarian Trump had a unique super event. Restoring the Flynn coup for a stratocratic Trump that completely betrays the People could be fun.
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>>2404267
caligula will be turned into a april fools gamerule
>>2404279
you are starting to embarrass yourself
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>>2404286
i agree current trump is fun but the content is very lacking in some areas, it will get a facelift after 1.1 doe
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Is there an archive of the Daydream In Black teaser images anywhere or are those just gone forever?
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>>2404286
Post-war is shitty if you expect more than just a book ender where you fill in the blanks. The journey there though? Love it, Trump's definitely my favorite unifier to play, but that doesn't change the fact that anything post-unification is a wet fart compared to the journey there.
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>>2404288
>gamerule
Yeah but there have been people talking about it maybe getting a facelift or a proper replacement. It might just be wishful thinking, but can you imagine a madlad Biden with a writing quality comparable to what Dystopia and Cognoscenti brought? That'd be amazing. Even if they don't, I guess it's a silver lining that it'll be kept as a game rule instead of just being deleted like everything good TNO added back in the day.
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>>2404307
>Post-war is shitty
This goes for almost every 2ACW path since almost none of them have unique post 2ACW content.
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>>2404288
>caligula will be turned into a april fools gamerule
Kind of pointless since the AI already will never go down the Caligula path without being forced to do so and it's fairly hard to get on accident.
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>>2404262
>>2404267
I've tried a few different presidents now, impressed by the sheer number of options for UoA
What are the conditions for Bloomberg's coup to fire? I had Biden step down before completing Hand on the Shoulder so I couldn't select Bloomberg for office (I think?), tried to get the coup to fire but the national spirit just disappeared when it hit 100% corporate influence. Can it only fire if the 2ACW is still ongoing?
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>>2404313
the devs really hate caligula as it is now, one of the reasons is the "dark brandon" """meme""" being promoted by the white house in a pitiful attempt to convince people biden was healthy
>>2404335
no idea, i know you cannot blow the whistle
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>>2404335
>impressed by the sheer number of options for UoA
I like it too. UOA, ACG and Russia are all kinda lacking in loc/flavor but being able to pick a fun successor goes a long way to make up for it and there's something for all tastes. Doesn't exonerate them from all the issues but it's nice.
>Bloomberg path
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Union_of_America#Possible_Leaders
When in doubt, look up the Wiki. It's very helpful for these things.
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>>2404347
They should hate it because it's an undercooked shit-show and a lazy attempt to copy-paste Tabby into TFR and then use the excuse of it being an AI in a lazy attempt to have it pass off as unique. PLENTY of reasons to hate it even beyond that reasoning. But that said I hope they make a version of it that isn't shitty instead of doing what TNO did and just delete everything. If it wasn't for how shit they are, swear to God they'd have deleted Tabby by now.
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>>2404335
You're intended to do the focus hand on a shoulder first as that unlocks a lot of stuff for increasing corporate power. It was probably just a coding oversight.
You just need to do that focus and get corporate influence to 100% (you also need stability to be over 20% as the anti federal uprising will happen if its below that) to get the bloomberg coup.
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>>2404351
It's a shame because an actually good caligula rework would basically just be the cognoscenti with a neolib instead of a neocon veneer.
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>>2404351
right now i don't think they want to rework caligula, but i have some hope that in the future the path gets some love
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>>2404348
>>2404352
>Wiki
Gotcha, looks like I was right that I needed to have Hand on Our Shoulder / Innovationists in the coalition before Biden retired
No idea why I failed the coup though, it just says "If Corporate Influence reaches Overwhelming (100%) and stability is over 20%"
I'd dig around in the mod files to find the event trigger, but the only event I can find is a coup that occurs if you pick Harris while the Innovationists have high influence
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>>2404347
>the "dark brandon" """meme""" being promoted by the white house in a pitiful attempt to convince people biden was healthy
Remember when they were reuploading old Biden speeches from when he was Obama’s VP and making edits of them like the we own the finish line speech?
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>>2404121
>>Are there any tricks for finishing 2ACW as quickly as possible
As UOA:
>consolidate armored and mechanized into one large breakthrough army
>set up front lines on Illinois border, but leave a large gap with fallback lines into the interior of ohio
>split breakthrough into two pincer units
>lure ACG into this pocket, then close it, take out half their army
>denver within 6 months
>conveniently let the Appalachia insurgency grow
>cogno takes power
>roflstomp through the rest of the ACW and restore power to the Rules Based Order
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>>2404347
>"dark brandon" """meme""" being promoted by the white house in a pitiful attempt to convince people biden was healthy
Thought it was a right-wing meme that showed Biden as a fascist authoritarian. That one angry speech he gave with red lighting on a black background didn't help matters.
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TFR needs to have an election system for major democracies

>Yes, including concurrent ACW elections with dynamic state inclusion
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>>2404060
>>2404073
Don't get people asking for Ukraine content.
Due to the nature of TFR as a mod that path would only be available if Russia loses, which limits your options. Ability to swing pro-Russia is also impossible because it would make 1ew too unbalanced and Russia can just annex you in a single click. You can't really justify extremists except maybe nationalists (and even then it's questionable why liberal europe is fine with it).
Similiar complaints for Poland. Out of all the nations that deserve content it's near the bottom, especially when UK, Italy, Turkey, India and Iran don't
No clue what you can even do with Belarus. It's annexable in one focus by Russia
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>>2404399
>Ability to swing pro-Russia is also impossible
That should be more like a conspiracy, where you undermine the country and then become a civil war tag near the more russian speaking areas.
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If Caligula Biden does get reworked the core idea of it being him going insane due to his worsening dementia/stress from the war should remain and the current Caligula Biden content should be kept as a game rule instead of being completely removed.
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>>2404367
i like how it backfired because people saw that joe had indeed decayed
>>2404379
right wingers started it with the "lets go brandon" shit, but leftists tried to use it to their favour, the angry speech was intentional
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>>2404380
Sounds like a pain in the ass to get working with ACW borders. The US elections in TNO are pretty cool and all and give some real neat election night vibes but you just know that if they implemented that mid-war it'd be a glitchfest. BoP does a good enough job for most situations. Plus a lot of TNO's election systems were dogshit and I'd rather have something basic than those. Only ones that didn't completely fucking suck were the US and Brazil ones, every other one was awful. Don't want to take my chances on that.

>>2404399
>Due to the nature of TFR as a mod that path would only be available if Russia loses
Dogshit take, might as well say that we should delete Dugin and Frank because they depend on the respective country losing.
>You can't really justify extremists except maybe nationalists
The EU sweeps for Azov, moot point nigger retard. They also sweep for Al Qaida in Syria so there's literally zero reasons why they wouldn't portray the 1488 crew in Kyiv as wholesome democrats as long as they aligned with their interests.
>No clue what you can even do with Belarus. It's annexable in one focus by Russia
Replace the annexation with a puppeting or otherwise delay it like you do in the LDPR route and then give Lukashenko (or whoever's relevant) a potential role ina post 1EW government post-annexation if applicable. It's not that hard, nor is it difficult to give Belarus a role as an independent pro-Russia country. Some of us enjoy playing smaller countries too y'know.
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>>2404424
TNO's voting system is fixed if they added a second gui showing a spreadsheet of all voters broken down by state, voter type and party loyalties.
This is completely unironic as the current system is needlessly vague about how much increasing popularity drift with nativists vs isolationists actually matters.
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be honest with me guys, does anyone actually play those meme mods like TFR or tota, or are you just here for the memes and the troondev drama soap opera?
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>>2404438
Seeing as any question about TFR gameplay gets genuine advise and guides I'd say people play and care about it, yeah. Same goes for other mods but usually mostly when they just updated.
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>>2404438
I play the TFR Florida submod because Im from Florida
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>>2404448
An alligator wrote this post
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>>2404438
nigger its literally the most popular mod out there right now why do you keep pretending its a flop
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>>2404454
Because he's assmad about the mod he works on (TNO) flopping after they decided to delete all wars.
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>>2404454
>the most popular mod out there right now
That's not TNO. Why must TFR fans lie so much? Are they just mad TNO is more popular in the marketplace of ideas? Is that why they spread TNOhate?
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>>2404462
savor the last moments of tno still having some popularity, you already lost the subscriber race and in a few months tfr will have more visitors and favorites
you reap the rewards of sucking the fun out of your mod
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>>2404462
You're right, TNO definitely isn't the most popular mod. You lost the race to 600K despite having a 150K sub head start and now everyone's laughing at you. Instead of coping and seething about your loss, shouldn't you ask your head devnigger Mango to take some responsibility and resign over this L?
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>>2404462
>That's not TNO
You're right, as mentioned, it's the most popular mod out there. Not TNO.
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TFR is the Undertale of grand strategy games
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>he's not even trying any more
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>>2404448
Are you a satanist rape victim, cartel execution victim, UN comfort toy or "just fuck my shit up" Florida state conscript?
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>>2404404
Wouldn't they just join Novorossiya which gets annexed?
>>2404424
You can still play Russia and Germnay after winning.
Syria is bumfuck nowhere, A european country going full 1488 is gonna raise some eyebrows
Why wouldn't Russia annex belarus?
>bigger role
You can litteraly have him lead Russia in two different paths
While I cna somewhat buy doing something with Ukraine, what can be done with Belarus, genuinely asking
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>>2404499
TNOsissies, our response?
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>>2404540
You're utterly stupid and everything you say is garbage. From pretending that Syria wasn't the most talked about geopolitical hotspot for a decade, to pretending that people that love Saudi Arabia but bitch about Iran have a cohesive moral compass, pretending that the same people have actual qualms about Azov and Aidar, it's simply baffling that you can either be so utterly ignorant about politics, or so dishonest that you'd lie so brazenly about them. But then you spout shit like how you seemingly don't understand that lines of code can be changed to have Russia not just annex Belarus every time and add options like playable puppets. Not understanding that people actually like smaller tags is especially baffling. Boot up KR, EaW or OWB and try those for a change. Many of the greats there are minor tags. TFR would be a lot better if they also showed smaller countries some love like those mods do.
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Is there mod based on the last of us yet?
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>>2404563
Syria is still far away and much easier to ignore. It's not right on teh fucking border
Russia doesn't really have narrative reasons for not anexing Belarus outside of EdRo path. Independent belarus will stick out like a sore thumb. You are telling me USSR is back but belarus is its own separate country? Ok lol
And what can you even do with Belarus, narratively speaking? It's always secodn fiddle to Russia and it's size means it will have ass industry, unless you give it vanilla paradox tier buffs
I also played other mods, so suck my dick
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Is there mod based on the last of us sfm porn yet?
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>>2404577
>It's not right on the border
Didn't stop every single Redditor from believing that Ukrainain hardcore nationalists are wholesome liberal democrats even if they're significantly to the right of the people they'd normally call Nazis and you're clinically retarded if you don't think that the same people that turned Al-Qaida into wholesome democrats wouldn't sweep for them either for as long as it was convenient for them.
>Muh narrative I must annex
Add an option to turn the country into a puppet like an ASSR or something similar. There are plenty of ways to do this.
>Belarus can't WC so why'd I play it
Same reason people play Belgium, Serbia or other middling tags in other mods. You don't need huge industries and massive amounts of power to have fun. Sometimes being limited and being a support tag for a major is just fun. You also mentioned several narrative reasons yourself such as Lukashenko being able to ascend to power later, something that'd absolutely be more rewarding if you got there by beating NATO as a CSTO partner.

Anyway you may be creatively bankrupt but hopefully this at least got the rusty cogwheels in your head moving. And I actually doubt you played other mods and if you did try to play as smaller countries. Unironically, plat some of the smaller ones in KX or something. There are plenty there that offer fun challenges without being majors or having huge buffs.
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>>2403940
What is some nigger bumped all the threads below his when Poland is asleep?
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>No Black Hebrew Israelites path for BLA
DAS RONG
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>>2404605 (Me)
I'm actually looking into these guys now and there's a surprising amount of them, honestly they really should get a path in a future BLA update or be a path for the Jewish Defense League.
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>>2404584
This transformation occured during a war. But fine, point conceded
>Add an option to turn the country into a puppet like an ASSR or something similar. There are plenty of ways to do this.
Ok, so you're stuck as a puppet, you must follow everything main USSR does, out of all regions to gain autonomy it's the fucking Belarus and the neostalinist are explicitly against republican autonomy. Even worse for LDPR.
There is difference between being a middling power and a dud. You can't go tank heavy beacuse of your shit industry so you can't outmicro and line infantry sucks in tfr. You didn't even really beat NATO, you were along for the ride. Lukashenko coming to power is experienced perfectly fine through Russia gameplay
Here's a challenge-conceive two intresting scenerios for Belarus playthrough. Don't forget to mention how you can do anything in the game with garbage industry and manpower and explain why Russia doesn't annex you outright
Funny you bring up Serbia because that country has genuine potential, already existing conflicts and is large enough to pull something off. Instead it's muh ukraine which is very limited in what you can do (but at least has size, army and industry) and non-entity that gets annexed two-four years into the game
Especially when fucking India and UK aren't playable. There are actually plenty of minors that could partake in existing and new wars. Ones that aren't as limited. KX is much older than TFR and less development intensive
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>>2404523
we support genocide rape and nuclear holocaust in the name of the white race here sir
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>>2404637
Rudolph's shiny red nose will guide the nukes to their targets in the Great Aryan Liberation War.
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>Communist MAGA but IRL
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>>2404060
Yes. Particularly I wish there was more to Ukraine in TFR than just
>fail to build an industry (debt spirals out of control, cant even build 1 mil factory)
>wait for Russia to attack you (no choice)
>Let Donbass go (no choice)
>auto-join NATO (no choice)
>Click decisions to build 100 units for free (you still cant afford them though)
>Win or lose first war you are ABSOLUTELY FUCKED second war or get fully integrated with 0 warning or input depending on the path Russia takes
It sucks a lot that once Ukraine wins they get territories that cant be integrated as well.
I 100% understand that Ukraine in TFR is not meant to be playable but the skeleton is essentially a puppet state for [insert lead country of NATO here] or Russia. It doesn't even resemble an independent country and I guess that is by design since that is how it is in real life but TFR isnt a stranger to anti-realism.
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>>2404662
I bet my left testicle that there will be more (or actual) Ukraine content in the near future.
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>>2404666
We'll get a functional skeleton by 1.2 at the latest I'd bet. That seems like a reasonable conservative estimate.
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>>2404662
I think Ukraine was confirmed to get content at some point, but it (like Poland) would probably be difficult to design content for due to it losing its autonomy in a 1EW defeat scenario.
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>>2404113
The clues are usually very obvious, there are only like 5 sets of clues.
Figured it out in the first try but that's only because I can remember what I had for breakfast this morning unlike (You)
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>>2404413
Remember how Youtube removed the dislike button because of the White House youtube channel getting dislike bombed into hell because of Biden?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Some retard was arguing about Super Heavies being damaged by infantry soft attack. You don't know how combat works. The chance to hit is still there no matter what but it's much much lower when the infantry has less attack than your total defense.
Your division templates are probably shit, not the actual tank. Super Heavies are generally strong just not great for the IC.
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>>2404694
kek'd
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>>2404652
Rue Battalion of the Reindeer Nations
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The country in TFR that actually needs content is India. It's like the poojeet memes have infected the entire dev team and they can't take that country seriously despite the fact it's supposed to be China's #1 enemy.
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>>2404705
>the entire dev team can't take [India] seriously
Then again, it's really hard to take it seriously.
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>>2404705
india has some focuses for the GAW, it might get content in the future
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>>2404705
I'd say Japan is China's #1 enemy, but India is up there.
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>>2404662
>I guess that is by design since that is how it is in real life
STUNNING
AND
BRAVE

Such a daring post.
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>>2404705
>despite the fact it's supposed to be China's #1 enemy.
said no one ever
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>>2404705
some china paths should get an option to create a meme virus to depopulate india
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>>2404714
Same population, shared border, nuclear weapons. I don't see how it's not.
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>>2404718
isn't there a path where you can literally get this guy as a minister?
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Path for this feel?
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>>2404723
Path for this feel?
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>>2404723
Any Trump path really. The definition of The Burgerreich.
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>>2404723
NSM
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>>2404713
Its true and undeniable.
>Geographically only relevant due to being a border region of a greater empire
>Culturally downstream of the dominant culture in the empire it was a part of
>Name is literally "Borderland" referring to the empire it was a part of
>Linguistically 95% identical to the mother tongue of the empire it was a part of
>Unable to assert it's existence alone
>Unable to enforce it's own borders
Hence why having an alt-history mod where such a failed state can succeed is genuinely intriguing.
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>>2404685
Now that I looked it up I remember that it wasn't about the clues, I lost because I didn't had enough PP due to failing RNG minigame and running out of time. I don't remember being able to make any decision
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>>2404729
>bullshit multipolar propaganda, the post
such a brave post you made. 10 roubles have been deposited into your account
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>>2404730
Its simple. The events tell you how to select Judas.
You need 100 PP to purge a cabinet member. They are in the "The Cognoscenti" panel on the decision tab. A small box pops up and asks to confirm after you click a portrait. After you purge a member there is a short wait and then an event confirms or denies if you caught Judas.
The trick is to stockpile like 200/300 PP after you get 4 or 5 clues and purge the ones you suspect all at the same time so you don't risk Judas blowing up the third world on one bad guess.
>>2404731
>multipolar propaganda
There is one pole and its my dick being shoved up hohol refugee pussy.
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>>2404676
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3612672104
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>>2404734
Gunther had SIX actual players operating for him, two of which were supposedly cracked at MP, all going up against one guy.

Grisha’s win would’ve been just as impressive without herr Gunther around.
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>>2404739
It's impressive as a game feat, but that's not the point. Going around pretending winning in a video is like winning a real war is embarrassing, and it's even more embarrassing that he did it by command of the government. I'm sure his old classmates cowering in a hole somewhere to avoid the drones are real impressed when they hears Grisha gets to avoid the draft by winning at video games, what a fucking hero.
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>The /uhg/fag is posting the gore he faps to in a blind rage over his side losing a HOI4 game
>Bet everything on ecelebs and lost
>"LET ME SHOW YOU HOW MUCH I DON'T CARE"
This is why everyone hates and laughs at you. The fact that you're going to react like this post is also politically motivated and not just someone laughing at how mad you are only makes you look even more mentally ill.
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Can't uhg fans go even a single day without posting gore?
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>>2404763
It's always politically motivated, all protestations to the contrary are Russoid psyops. If being antiRussian makes me mentally ill then I propose a dictatorship of the insane, since the sane are apparently evil.
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>>2404781
>People thinking it's funny when ecelebs exhibit DSP levels of skills is a Russian psy op, actually
Nigga you're fucking mindraped lmao.
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>>2404615
>ermmm small countries are hard to play so they shouldn't get content
Just say that you're at the game
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>>2404724
Radical-Centrist Russia
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>>2404734
You retards are both mongol rape babies who were turned into third world countries by random oligarchs.
Genuine nigger tier petty nationalism from the both of you.
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>>2404739
The problem is that Gunther's team had no one with recent TFR experience. Thie composition was also fucked since they should have 1 UK player instead of Ukraine or Romania.
Whoever played Poland was supposed to build air instead of the France player, who could have gotten Gen5 fighters before the first war.
The ruleset allowed not only stratbombing but flickerbombing too (which Grisha didn't even need) yet no one bothered to even put up air wings in their home territory when strat bombing in TFR is more broken than in vanilla.

Team coordination was just a giant meme and NATO players treated it more like vanilla than TFR while also not being serious about ti due to the lack of test runs.
Had all the players done a recent Germany/France and Russia playthrough in singleplayer, this would have gone down way better. I wiuld argue 6 randoms from this thread would have done better.
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Path for this feel?
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Is the guy who hates Russia the same poster who shills for TNOver?
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>>2404818
>Ukraine
It's a good country, starts with one of the largest armies in Europe.
>strat bombing in TFR is more broken than in vanilla
Sort of. The planes he built actually had less strat bombing than you can achieve in vanilla.
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>>2404821
Conservative UoA or Romney Cognoscenti.
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Tons of TNO's leader meeting notes just leaked and they're full of copes, broken dreams, admissions of failure and bad jokes. Their dev Q&A posts from the devcord also leaked.

23 November RT: https://files.catbox.moe/gilnye.pdf
14 December RT: https://files.catbox.moe/tqxb8j.pdf
28 December RT: https://files.catbox.moe/2hva9t.pdf
15 February RT: https://files.catbox.moe/lz8pzj.pdf
Questions: https://files.catbox.moe/zppx1f.pdf
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>>2404838
how does this stuff like this even get leaked half the time. is it mostly just disgruntled devs or what?
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>>2404862
Infighting. Basically everyone hates each other there. It's usually Reich & USA vs everyone else.
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>>2404862
You can see in the November leak that they call development volatile and in the questions pastes you can see them having bad morale over all leaks. There's apparently lots of secrecy and other measures going on too. And shit still leaks left and right even from the management levels. Shit's fucked. There's definitely some kind of civil war going on there.
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Lafayette wearing the helmet is no different to seeing a feudal lord in full armor during wartime, in Crusader Kings. Europe is just returning to tradition
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>>2404838
i wonder whats the sentiment internally after the 600k loss
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>>2404838
>some presidents
>some
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Now I hang up my uniform for good...
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SLAVA ROSSIYI!!! The Huns and Reds are no more!
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Rossiyski Mir
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>>2404783
And its irreversible. I have immunised myself against Zigger psyops through fanaticism. I refuse to change my mind, entertain any arguments against me, or treat Russians like human beings until they kill Putin. It doesnt matter how far from reality I stray, that's a ancceptable sacrifice; what matters is that I am immune to Russoid propaganda and thus will never be swayed into supporting them.
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Hello i just downloadeded how to win as nazi :)
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>>2404936
Ukraine lost. Fehlinger lost. TNO lost.
Russia won. Grisha won. TFR won.
Suffer.
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>>2404936
>i mindfucked myself and dehumanised an entire people but this is a good thing
This is why people mock /pol/tards. It doesn't matter that you claim to be a not-racist socialist, you're the same kind of scum as the wignats.
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>>2404943
Don't siege Leningrad. Take it immediately.
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>>2404943
Invade Poland in 1936 and Sealion UK immediately
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>>2404946
You have to sing your posts with Z my fellow zigger.
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>>2404999
this
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>>2405012
Not a Z enjoyer but I should do that in all my replies to that guy desu. Validating his schizophrenic delusions would make him more mindbroken.
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>>2405018
I am not an actual zigger either but it's funny to LARP as one.
Almost as funny as qanonposting.
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>>2405020
I'm gonna qanonpost so hard when DQRK Trump releases.
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>>2405022
Sqqn my fellqw pqtriqt. Fqllqw the white rqbbit.
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Path for this feel?
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>>2405028
NatPop CAR KRX
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How is it possible that TFR still hasn't added GypsyCrusader into the mod? He'd be great as a leader for NSM.
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>>2405042
Here is your idea executed but with 20 other ecelebs added so you can appreciate how horribly cringe it would be to add everyone that normies want to add:
>https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3605831121
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>>2404723
Libertarian Trump
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>>2404723
>>2405052
He looks like he's wearing a mask though so it has to be a UoA patriot, and Cognoscenti world domination with McDonalds banners everywhere really fits that vibe. If he wasn't wearing a mask though then yes definitely conservative/libertarian Trump.
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>>2405065
Oh damn nice observation right there
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>tno faggots are now accusing other mods of having cp on their discord servers

Freudian slip much?
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>>2405083
He isn't though? He's saying that the Nazi chuddery made him leave and that only CP could be worse. It's likely a false flag either way, I doubt he ever joined and is just making shit up to stir drama and fit in with the Reddit crowd.
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A total victory, no faction remains to oppose the new world
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And the new world will be .... the world of tradition
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>>2405083
>>2405089
He's right.
Its been a long time but this is literally like when I joined the TNO server when Pacifica was the lead dev. The kind of things that were being said in voice chat were so vile. They posted pictures of high ranking nazis and were talking about how they wish they could kill jews like them.
Like its one thing to be writing fiction of a genocidal ideology but its another thing to be casually advocating for genocide in a public chat.
Literally the only thing that could make it worse is if you were a paedophile.
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Haven't played the game in a while, I heard that Paradox made changes to subs and now destroyers are OP?
Any navy nerd here wants to tell me what's the current navy meta is?
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>>2405103
Subs, destroyers and cruisers are a way to go if you dont want to think about things.
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>>2405099
What if I want to genocide pedos?
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>>2405103
Don’t bother with submarines, they’re a waste of dockyards and convoy raiding isn’t that strong

>meta
Make a few super-fast cruisers with lots of airplane catapults, put those on patrol, set them to never engage. Have these as their own fleet split into several squadrons

Make actual ships, lots of them, put them on strike force, set them to always engage.

Picrel are endgame ships, but even tier 1/2 modules should be okay for early/mid game.
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>>2404890
I really hope they go back on de-masking him. He is meant to be a representation of a common feeling among the French youth, not an actual person. It'd be a waste of a cool concept to make him turn out to be some random obsucre French White Nationalist.
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>>2405099
>>2405083
The iron166 guy is talking about fmtw, accusing them of having 'p on their server, which isnt true because im on the server since it was made and there never was an incidente like that, just a tnonigger getting triggered at a mod for not putting a giant "le nazi bad" sign on every chud character they introduce
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>>2405089
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>>2405134
I think it's fine if they turn them into real people as long as their arcs and all that get respected. Don't pull a fucking TNO is all I'm asking. But I can see them wanting to move away from all the anonymous leaders at least in higher positions.

>>2405135
Thanks for the additional information!
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>>2405135
>they didnt fall for my TNO slander bait
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>>2405124
>convoy raiding isn’t that strong
Says you. I convoy raid with my main fleet and it obliterates. It's far more useful of a mission than Patrolling or (g-d forgive me for this) Str*ke F*rce.
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>they have to resort to spreading misinformation and fake accusations about other mods to retain a little bit of relevancy
sad!
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>>2405160
It really did happen though and you're just coping.
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>>2405155
Does convoy raiding actually target enemy fleets, or just convoys?
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>>2405160
TNO never recovered from Slackjawed’s videos, btw
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well well the usual suspects back at it again
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>>2405163
If you have engagement risk set to high or more and the enemy is on strike force, your fleet will fight the enemy fleet when they respond to your raiding.
Atleast, this is what I have observed in my games. I don't really know if it's routine behavior or not. When it comes to navy I tend to do the same thing every time.
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>>2405167
>the enemy is on strike force
Or convoy escort*
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>>2404662
yes, narratively there is little room for Ukrainian content outside of major rewrites of game narrative and railroading


Most interesting thing I could see happening is only having a Russian victory EW1 take left bank Ukraine and then have some sort civil war in the rump state, with eventual EU intervention
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>>2404977
Hey Im leaving them an out. I dont hate them because theyre Russian, I hate them because of what they do. All they have to do is kill Putin to prove me wrong. Of course, I doubt that will happen; so far, nearly all of them have proven to be sheep.
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>>2405187
A rump state/frozen conflict was Putin's goal after Hostomel anyway. There should be mechanics for such things.
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>>2405083
the only hoi4 mod server i saw have cp neing posted was the TFR discord, they share and distribute cp basically hourly. sick people over there.
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>>2405187
You literally have the the seeds for interesting content right there in irl.
You have plenty of evidence of how corrupt Zelensky is. So if he achieves a total victory in TFR it would just give him even more power.
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>>2405134
Same, if they do follow through we demasking him I hope he's a young Frenchman to preserve the idea of him being a symbol of the angry French youth.
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Im clenching my asshole so hard not to start spurging at the ukraine discussion.
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>>2405187
I don't think you'd have to do too much with it. Give the Lvovistan that currently forms some venues besides being annexed and you're golden. I think it could be very fun both to fight as and against if you gave all their 1EW results that aren't pro-Russian a full Omsk tier level of vengeance and militarization. You know how Serbia often gets to punch above their weight class? Take that and put it on steroids with the Azovites or whatever makes sense in response to LDPR etc. All tags you'd need to change are skeletons and you can even have the alliance map sorta make sense if Czechia and Slovakia can't join CSTO. Sure it'll be hard for Ukraine to survive if Russia gets a maximal victory but if they're on 20% recruitable population it'll still be a heck of a nut for the enemy to crack.

1EW win would be far easier too. Just allow elections with some mixed options ranging from left to right. Maybe even have one or two that isn't too cynical or bleak even!

>>2405200
Either that or throw him out. Budanov and Zalushny are obvious coup candidates and maybe you can build from there.

>>2405188
>Is a victim of a psy-op and shills relentlessly for a neocon project in a country he has no ties to
>Calls others sheep
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>>2405202
one of the devs said lafayette would become the "representation of the renewed french spirit" so in a way you are right
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Reworked Lafayette must keep his current 3EW song, it's too good to change. Also if/when he gets a 3EW victory superevent it should be another Auroch song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pOl6Fg4wx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smTevH2D8LQ
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>>2405192
Putin dies in TFR and never survives so who cares what his intention OTL is.
The alt history paths Russia has are great narrative wise.
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>>2405211
Medvedev Victory: NAFO style Azov/Atlanticist/EVROPA style larper coup (Fascist)
Soviet Victory: Banderite Azov (natsoc)
LDPR Victory: Maknoite left accelerationists? (Totsoc)
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>>2405229
>Who cares
Madvedev seeks to secure Putin's legacy in a few paths at least so probably him.

>>2405233
Great thinking desu. NAFO Azov and legitimate Banderite Azov are both great fits. I think that rump state Zelensky vanning everyone with a pulse also works for the EU. So maybe:
EU: NAFO Azov radnats or AuthLib Zelensky.
CPRF: UltraNat or NatSoc Banderite Azov.
LDPR: makhnovite anarchists or Vanguard Socialists.

You gotta admit, all of these slap pretty hard as revanchist routes!
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Could non-Azovite UltraNats work? Does that even exist?
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>>2405246
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>2405245
Probably a guy like Zalushny their former military chief that got exiled to London irl. He was always more of a hard-right nationalist without going full LARP. There are also many other nationalist units and I bet you can find at least one that isn't totally nuts but idk how relevant they'd be.
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>>2405248
>me on the left
>>2405252
They deradicalized™ after becoming a proper unit in the military over 8 years instead of being paramilitaries. You can still find more extremists there than in other units but this isn't 2014 anymore.
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>TNO's writing lead sacked and replaced with Jag
Heads are already starting to roll as the regime tries to insulate itself from the fallout caused by losing the race to 600k.
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>>2405252
If you're picking between western and eastern jewish puppets you may as well pick the ones with less aids.
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>>2405262
>They deradicalized
If you believe that and that they're happy about the current shit-show then you probably believe in moderate rebels and other media fairy tales too. They weren't really in the proper army either, were they? I think they were in the national guard and had some autonomy and privileges compared to the mobiks and other sad-sacks. Might've changed recently though, I honestly haven't paid very close attention to it. I just know that at least as of a few years ago they were the same LARPers they always were, and were never going to achieve any of their dreams because neither the EU nor the Americans would realistically never let them. Would be funny though if they were able to give the Euros the middle finger though in TFR.
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>>2405267
>Posts a picture of Putin next to any Jew
>This is supposed to make me forget all about Merkel opening up the EU and every ill of neoliberalism
I hate this lesser of two evils meme.
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>>2405269
>moderate rebels and other media fairy tales too
Strawman as usual.
"""Moderate""" rebels all deserved the barrel bombs. Azov had to deradicalize to a degree or else Russians would have a gorillion pieces of evidence of them being nazis. Then EU governments would have to justify why they armed nazis. You defeintly do have extremists but it isn't nearly on 2014 levels.
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>>2405272
>any Jew
Russia has the highest rate of non white immigration of any country in europe per capita. If you don't count iberians as white then that does become Luxembourg but russia would still be second.
They also love sodomy.
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>Ukrainian Government in Exile
there you go
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>>2405277
They had plenty and it didn't matter and would never matter because the media in the west would just explain it away and every Redditor would still rationalize why it's still wholesome and liberal. At least in Europe, but most media there is state run or state aligned. America's a bit different and better, but you'd still have at least two years of unconditional sweeping under Biden.
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TFR is so irrelevant and boring this is now just a ukraine war discussion thread & tno obsession
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>>2405300
TFR fatigue is real and it's strong. I'm done hearing the same people who defend pedophiles like otto von biscuit talk about MUH FIRE RISES!!
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>>2405304
>otto von biscuit
He was fired after they find out he was a pedophile, idk what else you want them to do.
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>>2405308
No it was because he wanted to interview an Atomwaffen member.
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Is TWR good? looking for something with realistic lore, good gameplay, and replayability
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>>2405311
don't tell me you actually believe that's why. It might be. But they know what he did.
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>>2405312
ITS BETTER THAN THE FIRE RISES I WILL TELL YOU THAT!
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>>2405308
Didn't know he was a pedophile. That's really disappointing. i didnt mind his videos
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>Cobble is seething about TFR and Otto again
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>>2405322
Im not your boogeyman, shitskin.
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>>2405324
Dude you keep posting this and every time it's proven to be fake. Why are you even seething about him still anyway? He was fired last year.
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>>2405312
>realistic lore
It's fairly realistic but does have a KX tier himmler path for eurasian conquest. The rest is normal though.
>good gameplay
All of russia is fun
>replayability
Again playing different countries in Russia is fun but there's basically just 2 endgame states of whether germany got raped or not. Some paths avoid that like with himmler but most of your runs will look broadly the same at the end.
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>>2405327
>Why are you seething over a pedophile bro? he got fired! everythings ok now!
Good point. Let's just forgive all pedophiles because they're on the sex offender registry.
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I'm sad that tfr hate is normalized now. everytime i come here 80% of the posts are people making fun of or criticizing TFR. i miss when people actually liked the mod and talked about it, i guess it really did fall off.
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>he's trying to astroturf an anti TFR sentiment
Ok Dark Czarist posting on KF's TNO thread right now.
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>>2405324
I dunno why but the likes crack me up
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TFR is good, but it's still too similar to TNO. it needs less railroading
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>>2405342
nigger is obsessed with tfr
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Paths for this feel?
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>>2404666
>I bet my left testicle
If you fail the best I am taking that testicle and going to make you eat it like an apple.
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>>2405342
Which faggot are you
Kill yourself
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These threads sure are useless now. I guess the agenda 2030 is working really well, and people don't even realize that.
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>>2405376
it's just a tfr hate general now. sad!
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TNO is a shining example of what a mod should be. Unlike TFR, TNO is a masterpiece.
>Gripping like an A24 slow burn horror film
>Thought provoking and feelings-based method to story telling
>Writers who are aware of their diverse audience
>Bold and brave like trans visibility day
>Stunning like Hunter Schafer on Euphoria
>Promotes love over hate like Dylan Mulvaney
>Accepting of LGBTQ+MAP persons
>Approachable by the vast majority of minorities
Overall just a lovely mod made by lovely persons(xhey/xhem)!
Love (TNO) beats hate (TFR).
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>>2405378
no one cares dude
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I am in contact with 4chan mods to permanently ban any discussion of The Fire Rises in /vst/.
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>>2405380
I care. On behalf of all marginalized people I care.
A hateful mod such as TFR has no right to exist alongside so many other unique and inclusive mods made by such a diverse array of persons(xhey/xhem) in the HOI4 modding scene.
I mean there is just no excuse for this bigotry in the big 26.
Love always wins. NYA!
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>>2405381
That's going to be really hard for you in particular, because you love to talk about how much you hate it.
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>>2405383
Hot
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>>2405371
>collapsing world
>britian
>Rotha Lintorn-Orman
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>>2405385
I don't care for TFR. I just like making you shills who are TOTALLY NOT TFR DEVS OR BROWN SHITSKINS (or both) angry.
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Will 1.2 add UK content to TFR? Surprising that they aren't playable.
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>>2405391
1.1 is going to come out in 2027, and 1.2 dev hasnt even started. tfr will probably have collapsed by then, so no.
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>>2405392
Correct. Unlike TNO, which actually releases on its promised dates, like Yippee, TFR is all smoke and mirrors to justify funding third world propaganda.
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>>2405391
It's one of those things that got put on hold because 1.1 was overscoped. Originally the plans were to include them in 1.0, but the content made for it was lousy and half baked like NSM is or worse. The skeleton is kinda meh so I hope they go back to the drawing board.
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>>2405365
The periods of anti-TFR astroturfing on 4chan and dark czarist posting on KF align near-perfectly. I’m certain it’s the same person behind both.
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>>2405401
He usually just spergs out for an evening or two before giving up again.
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>>2405391
No, 1.2 is focused on East Asia and Australia. The Yookay is probably getting something in 1.3, which will be focused on Europe.
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>>2405401
its the same tno devnigger doing this
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>>2405406
As they're separate dev teams and the america team is already saying that massive batch updates are pretty ass I wouldn't be surprised if 1.2/3 were cut up into more minor updates focusing on each country individually.
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>>2405407
They act quite differently though. TNOdevnig uses AI crap a lot and mentions TNO frequently.

Czarist just spergs about Otto and says ‘TFR dead mod’ and variations, and occasionally says ‘TFR brown’.
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>>2405407
It's not. >>2405412 is right, most likely. If it is the TNO dev, he's started to mimic Cobble/Czar and why'd they do that?
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>>2405414
xe is trooning out on the farms now
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>>2405392
>1.2 dev hasnt even started
It has though, obviously nowhere near finished. But NK, SK, and AUS content have all been worked on a bit.
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>>2405427
the koreas have most gfx done, australia has the general outline done
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>>2405428
Any screencaps of Korea GFX?
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>>2405428
Any work on Taiwan and India (besides the AI war tree)?
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>>2405432
the tree is a mess, probably to be expected since its early in development, but the gfx is outstanding
>>2405433
india doesnt have anything new, taiwan had a few new nat spirits
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>>2405436
Can you tell us anything about the leftist Japan path(s)?
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>>2405440
japan did not have anything new, but one of the korea paths is 100% tied to the nationalist japan path
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>>2405444
Any more details about this path?
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>>2405447
its mostly loc and gfx for now, but it looks like japan will be invading south korea and establishing a colonial administration there
in one of the previous threads a leaker posted some of this path's gfx
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>>2405427
I meant 1.3, not 1.2. knowing how retarded the tfr dev team is they'll probably have 1.2 done before 1.1
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>>2405456
>1.3
Probably just a few general outlines, but besides that yeah they'd be too preoccupied working on 1.1 and other shit to bother with 1.3.
>they'll probably have 1.2 done before 1.1
No chance, but even if they somehow did that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
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>>2405456
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>>2405461
it would be awful because asian "people" don't deserve content before Americans.
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>releasing updates with content is bad actually
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>>2405475
I never said it was bad, it's bad when you don't even release content at all.
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>>2405475
Take the Kiwi logo off him, he constantly gets negrated and heckled whenever he posts in the TNO thread.
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>>2405479
i can see your point, hopefully they keep their promise of being more consistent after 1.1(even doe they released some minor updates during the wait for it)
>>2405483
geg
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>>2405483
>gio scotti
>greek towel boy
He's a 'closet' pedo too don't forget.
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>>2405392
>collapsed
Just like your angel TNO has never collapsed.
Why did literally all the original devs leave/get overthrown so easily btw?
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>>2405516
I find it insulting you think i like nuTNO, especially the devs. I don't like liberals. I voted for Trump.
>>2405483
It hurts me greatly that Lolcow Reddit does not appreciate my presence, stop bringing it up.
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>>2405534
>I voted for...
doesn't matter.
You change your beliefs on a dime depending on who you want to start trolling.
When it's cool to be a TNO tranny, then you do that.
When it's cool to be a TNO conservac|_|ck then you do that.

Your trolling doesn't even have a purpose, Mateusz.
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>>2405541
I think you're confusing me for the TNO ai poster, that's not me. I don't care for TNO.
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new boogeyman just dropped guys!
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Can someone upload the leak somewhere with all the personal information/dox deleted?
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>>2405545
There's only two so far.
>DQRK CZQRIST (BWC slut)
>Nicola/nudev/Mateusz (BRC slut)
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Hey my mod achievements reset every session, how can I stop this?
I can get them just fine but they don't stay once I quit the save. I am using creamapi for the dlcs. Normally not much of a problem but it's disappointing and with shit like Cog's Ruina Imperii it means I need to go into the files and change the conditions for it to work properly.
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>>2405564
There's a few more, and to expand on the ones you listed:
>DQRK CZQRIST - KF Username of (most likely) either Czar or Cobble. Posts here from time trying to stir up hatred for TFR, a mod he was thrown out of after a coup.

>Nicola - A KX janny that for God knows what reason has a vendetta against numerous mods. Has been caught posting here several times usually to call people stupid for not being as realistic as KX, a mod he considers to be highly realistic. Spends most of his days seething about mods on Discord.

>Kateryna - More of a /tno/ cryptid, he's their head janny and is considered both on /vst/ and the team to be a talentless nepo baby that scrapes Wikipedia for content. Gained infamy after trying to sue a fan Wiki and was caught defending his proposal on /tno/ after it leaked one sad Christmas Eve. Has many grudges, most notably against Ashley and Pacifica because /vst/ respects their pronouns. Many pro-nudev posts get attributed to him (including early AI slopper posts), but this is an over-reaction caused by him being a head moderator.

>/uhg/poster - A retard that was banned from the TFRcord for telling a Russian janny to die. Obsessively rages about TFR because of this and exhibits deranged behavior even by /pol/tard standards. Goreposter.

>TNO AI Slopper - A manchild that has spent dozens of hours posting pro-TNO AI slop. People mostly debate if he's a troll or actually this stupid.

>Old thread poster - A manchild that made two bakes in Dec 25 and Feb 26 that he keeps bumping, trying to get people to migrate over to them. A harmless cartoon villain that amuses and confuses anons with his silly schemes to make his aborted threads relevant.

I think that's all of them.
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>>2405574
>p*tin is le savior of the white race in big 2026
𐑈mh
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>>2405576
>puts words in my mouth
>post gay ai porn
Ok, faggo.
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>>2405573
I'm not czar, cobble, or the guy who molested you as a child. Just because I am not a raped goycattle with a different opinion doesn't mean I am your boogeyman.
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>>2405583
Seethe harder, DQRK CZARIST.
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>>2405577
Ever since the war escalated there has been an uptick in Soviet Union and red army glazing.
Before 2022 you wouldn't see people post something like "Russia must liberate Ukraine from the nazis" posted unironically.
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>>2405573
I used the wrong name here: >>2405564
>TNO AI Slopper
>/uhg/poster
This is Mateusz. He is both of these. He may even be Nicola as well because whenever Nicola posts about realism some AI slop post is soon to follow usually accompanied by complaining about how TFR is for "multipolarism" or whatever russian shit.
So yeah, the topics of these "three" fags intersects too much for it to not be one guy under my observations.
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>>2405584
Do you think I'm trying to hide the fact it's me or some shit? Is my name an insult to you? I plan on changing my name on Kiwi anyway. Czar larp is dead.
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>>2405586
>supports Russia and Palestine is le based chud
This is just the 3rd world position. You admit to being brown if you support both.

>Supports Israel and Russia is maga
Unironically the Indian position.

I am not on this graph since I want Israel and Palestine to nuke each other.
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This board is an anarchistic shithole and the two chimps above make it so much worse.
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>>2405586
Possible. AI slopper and /uhg/guy, quite likely. Nicola, not so much but I can see the resemblance.

>>2405587
>Is my name an insult to you
More of a joke really.
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>>2405590
In this general we support totalitarian dictatorships.
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>>2405591
It's not a joke, I would obviously, unironically, use "Dqrk Czqrist", a reference to Qanon, as a serious name.
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>>2405588
>WAAAHH the meme you posted doesnt include every single ideology
>whaddaboutism
Just shut the fuck up, nigger. laugh a little its good for you. stop taking jokes harder than a russian taking dick in a gulag.
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>>2405593
It's a joke because you're such a cartoonish loser. Like when you posted to KF to create a false flag, deleted your post, and then had your post undeleted because they caught on to your shenanigans so that the entire thread could laugh at you.
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Who gives a shit. Stfu, damn.
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There's no point in making these generals. It's just /uhg/ lite and seamonkeys (tfr players in 2026) posting about their brown girlfriends cosplays or some "porn = funny" shit you'd laugh at in middle school.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ BBC slut
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>>2405595
I made a mistake over a !!YEAR AGO!!, also I did not delete my post, neither here or on lolcow reddit.
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>>2405598
Nobody has ever made a joke like this before!
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>>2405600
Your mistake was registering that account and starting to stir shit there as part of your butthurt crusade against a mod team you got thrown out of, dumbass.
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>>2405594
THE MEME HAS TO INCLUDE ME NIGGER I NEED TO FEEL REPRESENTED
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>>2405586
thirdies of the world unite
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>>2405602
"The joke is you're czar even though you're obviously not but im a dumb monkey shitskin nigger"

I'm convinced you are AI, you don't even read what i say, you just say "you're czar" and some other bullshit. I know this site is mostly bot traffic but i would've hoped vst was spared.
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>>2405601
>Nobody has ever made a joke like this before!
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>>2405605
Its called covering all your bases and he is doing a masterful job.
You're one of the names he's calling you thats why it pisses you off. If not then you would just disengage and forget about him.
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>>2405585
>uptick in Soviet Union and red army glazing
Pretty sure thats just russians glazing their own victory.
>nazi
Easiest slamdunk propaganda because the stupid ukranian did it to themselves (nvm they have zero principles of the 3rd reich)
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>>2405607
You are a child rapist. If you deny it, it must be true! Im just covering bases bro.
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>shart memes
Yeah, fucking nuke this thread.
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>>2405610
I don't save let alone post such images because they are ugly. I genuinely believe ugliniess is an attack on the soul.
Look at one of the above examples. It's hideous. There is no beauty, it's just deformation. But this isn't like seeing some guy who unfortunately had his face ruined because of a car accident. It has been created deliberately. Someone woke up and thought that he should create ugliness today. When you see these images it is a direct attack on your soul. It is actual evil in .png format.
Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>2405609
>>2405610
>kiwitranny seething about sharty
You will never be 1 fraction as based as any söyteen.
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its 2 am in white countries so im going to bed, seamonkeys lost. TFR devs lost. >>2405608 is a pedophile btw
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>>2405613
quoted the wrong post but i never make mistakes so unfortunately hes a pedophile now
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>>2405608
Before 2022 Russia shilling was tied to modern Russia. Most of the Russia shills absolutely opposed the Soviet Union.
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>>2405609
The fact that you are so angry about silly half-assed insults outs you as a kiwitroon BTW.
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>>2405611
Sounds schizo but the massive uptick of grotasque person in you face is a psyops imo. All the widemouth closeups, extreme fishlense, nignog closeups, etc.
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Dugin or Prigo, which one is more fun/kino?
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>>2405615
Nah thats ostensibly wrong.
Grisha for one, was praising Lenin and had multiple patriotic russian videos on his youtube pre 2022 (idk about now).
Russians love the soviet union they always have. It was their country at its peak.
>>2405608
It makes a lot more sense to understand that the Soviet Union is revered because it won a "just" war against "evil" [nazis] equivalent to the US's perspective of WW2.
WW2 didnt just shape the first world, it also shaped the second world in the same way.
The way the russian boomers are patriotic about the SU is the exact same as the way american boomers praise the US.
>The US "saved" Europe
>The USSR "saved" Europe
Its the same neocon shit just a different spin.
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>>2405617
>WOW this image sure makes me LOVE niggers so much more!
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>>2405622
>Prigo
no content unfortunately.
If you LARP it can be fun but dont its boring.
Definitely Dugin. Make sure you play on Veteran and pump the NATO buff slider all the way up otherwise there is 0 challenge btw.
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>>2405625
Grisha is Russian. I was specifically talking about Russia supporters who were not from Russia. Like pre-2022 it was extremely rare to see some guy with a Western flag post Soviet Union or red army glaze unironically.
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>>2405627
Is Dugin really that strong? I played LDPR Russia which was already strong. Recently did Confucianist China and it was completely overpowered.
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Path for this feel?
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>>2405629
He has a bunch of broken buffs. It's pretty much just artificial difficulty through ridiculous and unjustified stats.

>>2405631
Win 1EW, create your greatest enemy, lose.
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>>2405631
guandong fujitsu path?
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Ok now that that spergout's over I'm replying back to my buried question >>2405568 so it's more likely to be seen
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>>2405586
nafoids seething at this pic
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>>2405574
>savior of the white race
>looks inside
>largest muslim population in Europe
>largest amount of fags in europe
>largest non white population in europe
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>>2405734
>largest population in europe
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>>2405739
Highest in fags per capita, rest I'll concede as Albania and Bulgaria exist.
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>>2405734
>>largest non white population in europe
that would be turkey, there are around 80m of them
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You niggas will do anything except talking about HOI4 sometimes.
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>>2405734
>highest rate of alcoholism in Europe
>one of the highest drug use rates in Europe
>2nd highest suicide rate in Europe
>one of the highest divorce rates in Europe
>one of the lowest life expectancy rates in Europe

Putin should honestly fix his own country. I don't want Russians to die for his retarded ambitions in Ukraine. I like these niggas actually but Russia is not trad.

>>2405739
>non-white can't into per capita
The memes write themselves.
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>>2401860
APLA - Anarchists.
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>>2405782
Where did the post mention per capita anywhere?
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>>2405752
Too busy posting nafo propaganda.
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Best radio mod?
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>>2405794
TFR is unplayable without it. Dunno if it's the best but it's the biggest enhancer.
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>>2405794
>best radio mod
Equestria at War Music Mod
Nothing quite like Peacetime Platonica, Equestria´s Finest and Forest Deer
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>>2405794
eaw radio rapes every other ost
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>>2405794
Pax Brittanica beats out everyone else imo
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When the fuck is 1.1 coming out it's been a fucking year already
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>>2405962
Two more weeks, we still need Dark MAGA to release first.
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Really sad to still see tfr taking up all the traffic. This place used to be so much more interesting
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>>2405962.
PATRIOTS WILL BE IN CONTROL SOON
2 MORE WEEKS, VANCE HAS THE ANSWER.
TRUST THE PLAN.
Z.
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>>2405969
You can start a discussion about a different moment whenever you'd like, for example when is OWB releasing another map expansion?
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>>2405969
then post toozers?
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>>2405969
Let's talk about how TNO is imploding and just fired their writing lead because he's shit at his job and said something that was actual vantablack brimstone from the depths of niggerhell
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>>2405978
The brimstone in question:
>For me, I work on TNO because I enjoy it, I like writing for myself. I do not write for the vocal minority that plays Hoi4 and expects TNO to work like Hoi4, or is only interested in specific countries. I do not wish to degrade the level of my work to appeal to them, and I suspect most other members of the team feel the same way. I especially would not want to do so when what we have been doing seems to be rather successful with over 500,000 subscribers now
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It's TNOver.
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>>2405981
>He thinks it's only a small amount of people that want a HOI4 mod to play like HOi4
How do these people end up working on mods for a game they seemingly don't even like?
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>>2405981
What a fucking faggot.
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>>2405984
I genuinely don't know how the Mangoite/Realism clique even found out about TNO and decided to launch a multi-year effort to take it over when they despise the medium it's built in the first place.
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>>2405974
>>2405977
That's not the discussion I miss. I want to see nazis and trannies going at it. I want underage boys getting groomed to trooning out and drawing pictures with their own blood, I want to see a father exposing his CHAZ participating tranny son and having his mod implode after an interview with terrorist. I would unironically like for czar to win since he would at least be a great source of drama, but no, nothing ever happens in the year 2026.
>>2405978
I talked about it on tno thread. It's good that it has it's own thread, someone needs to have it too
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Someone give me a quick rundown on TNO please. Never played it but heard that it used to be le edgy mod 4 years ago with decent content.
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>>2405998
>I would unironically like for czar to win since he would at least be a great source of drama
Czar's coup succeeding would have been a great renewable source of drama since he would have ran the mod into the ground and killed it, but I'd rather a good mod continue to be good and release updates than turn to shit and die for the sake of having fresh drama.
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>>2405978
what happened?
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>>2405969
How come TNO gets a dedicated thread but not TFR? 80% of posts itt are about tfr and the tno threads are typically dead unless something happens.
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>>2406000
>QRD
It was a mod in development since before HOI4 even released, it was originally a roleplay thread on a forum then Panzer started organizing people to work on a Vic2 mod.
After HOI4 released, they moved development there.
Released in 2020, it raised the bar for HOI4 mods. The modding drama behind it is deep.
The old mod had wild things in it like Alantropa. Now it's been reworked by a new clique of people who abused the team lead voting system then abolished the elections. They are hard at work removing everything original and turning it into basically a slightly more edgy cold war mod.
Anyway, the mod itself is good. Very edgy, but good.
If you want to try it, I recommend using one these 2 forks:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2980739000
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3583339918
Requiem is a fork right before the controversial new map that added a billion dumb states to south america and antartica. It also has russian content up to 1982 for Omsk and Novosibirsk and generic 1972+ content for the rest.
It's also way more optimized than the base mod.
Rises Again is a fork of 2021 TNO with Atlantropa intact and 72-82 generic russian content.

If you want a list of what you should try.. For Requiem, definitely a russian warlord country, Germany, USA then Guangdong. TNO peaked with Guangdong.

Rises Again is basically a time capsule of the old mod, you can play whatever.
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Path for this feel?
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I'm so demoralized bros... TFR is dead.
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just had a game as Soviet Union after not touching this game for 2 years

forgot how gay it way
a gazillion focus points that are hard to keep track off if you want to play historical but at the same time railroad you into the most niche-"historical"-things that you could just do on your own (like the T-34)
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Hey /vst/, GoodWinSon, the lead dev of TNO:RA here, ask me anything!
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>>2406020
Sorry to hear that you are a mouthbreathing retard. There nothing hard about keeping track of focuses in Soviet Union tree. They are literally a stright lines down.
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>>2406021
when did you become a pedophile?
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>>2406024
>t. plays vanilla without dlcs
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>>2406025
I don't know to be honest.
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>>2406019
hello astroturfer, how are you doing?
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>>2406028
Hello idea gal, you will never be a woman.
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>>2406029
i'm not your boogeyman
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>>2406030
Lol!
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TNO:RA should have a Russell B. Long presidency path.
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>>2406034
im a retard who has to use ai to do the development for me, can you make me a prompt?
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>>2406021
>>2406025
>>2406027
What made you become a gay namefag who tries to stir up drama for no reason?
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>>2405794
Neofolk Radio
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>>2406039
I'm an avid user of lolcow reddit, i obsess over people who don't know i exist.
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has anyone here ever heard of the fire rises
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>>2406043
Was that you replying in character as goodwinson or is that you just confessing?
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>>2406045
yeah its the best and hottest mod right now
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>>2406046
what do you mean character, how do i pretend to be myself? I have over 1,000 messages on reddit 2.0.
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>>2406045
No
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>>2405981
>>2405984
>>2405994
This meme, replace women with trannies and dudebros with boomers.
There you go that's TNO dev team.
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who the fuck is that
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Question regarding decision conditions:
Is it possible to set a condition for a country to check if it has access to (non-imported) resources?
I had an idea for a decision to build a steel mill regardless of who you are (rather than those pre-designed for a handful of countries), but only accessible to pull if you are making less than 4 steel in your country (plus other requirements).
Can you set such check at all, or is it impossible?
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>>2406026
I have the No Step Back, you retard. There is nothing complicated about navigating that focus tree.
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>>2406055
Some crackhead from Seattle larping as Letsinger.
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>>2406016
Thanks my nigger.
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>>2406055
He looks like he will bomb your house
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>>2405981
TNO and the drama surrounding them sounds like a video Fredrick Knudson (yes he is unfortunately a furfag) or American Krogan would make a 5 hour long video exposé on.
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>>2406020
You would have killed yourself over the old Soviet tree. It was by far the worst tree in the entire game.
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>>2406064
BTW someone should do this. I would but I have no idea where to start. I don't like Discord and I understand they probably deleted a lot of old conversations. And it would take more than a year of consistent work to read all the mental diarrhea they write on a consistent basis because they are troons.
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>>2406066
4chan archives, the KF thread, and if you can somehow recover them the dsrfunny threads and slackjawed videos
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>>2406065
i enjoyed it
35-day-focus-nodes are cancer
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>>2405969
it's not 2016 anymore. world history is happening now and people want to see it on a screen
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>>2406069
The most interesting part of TNO's development imo was the rise and not the downfall.
As a Vic2 enjoyer I find it really funny they wanted to make TNO in Vic2 given the limitations of Vic2. Notoriously Vic2 is a pile of steaming garbage when it comes to mod stability.
After they ported the game it was really good for a while but this was only because the devs who made it happen didnt quit/told to get fucked yet.
It had a year long string of updates during the pandemic where it was really fucking fun to play.
Then the nudevs took over, cut everything that everyone loved and destroyed the scope of the mod.
TNO didn't deserve the slow burn bonfire of a death it got. It really was lightning in a bottle and spiteful loser "devs" decided to wreck it.

It is the perfect tragedy narrative for a few hours long Youtube video.
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>>2406075
35 day focuses are great.
Look at the dogshit vanilla Ottomans tree and tell me the game needs more 70 day focuses.
I'm genuinely shocked PDX never tweaked the Ottos tree after release. I wonder if they have a contract saying they cant modify code used in Battle For the Bosphorus for 99 years or something. They 100% outsourced that DLC and it was one of the worst expansions of all time solely because of the focus tree length. You have to wait until 1945 to reach peak strength. Dogshit.
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>>2406075
It was genuinely terrible.
The Great Purge was a 210 day focus. You also had to go through three 70 day focuses which did nothing to reach another focus that took 210 days to complete so you could actually go down the diplomacy tree which was very limited.
It was 630 days of literally doing nothing.
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>>2406058
> There is nothing complicated about navigating that focus tree.
it's ass

why is the whole purge split into half a dozen focus-points?
why am I required to suddenly switch branches to progress in the current branch? (there is no visual indicator for this being necessary btw)

game turned into "press the button every 35-70 days"
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>>2406083
https://www.moddb.com/mods/a-new-order-last-days-of-europe/articles
https://www.moddb.com/mods/a-new-order/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/unpl24/a_little_history_on_the_oldest_map_of_tno_in_hoi4/
Top comment is from Panzer giving a long rant. If you want to know anything about the Vic2 days, then you would need to go through his posts.
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>>2403901
>>2406056
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>>2406055
nobody cares about tfr here.
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>>2406056
https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Triggers
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>>2406087
>Why PDX didn't tweak one of the worst DLCs they ever made, and on an utter meme path?
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>>2406107
>in_country
>extracted = yes
AWESOME!

Thanks!
Will post when I have time to pull this (likely tomorrow)
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>>2406021
>>2406025
>>2406027
>>2406038
>>2406039
>>2406043
>>2406046
>>2406049
>Being so butthurt by a one man fork that you have to pretend to be the lead dev to slander him
Keep sneeding.
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>>2406065
>the worst tree in the game
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>>2406109
>uhm the ottoman empire only stopped existing less than 20 years ago. therefore we need to make it so it never happens again
>its realistic
Anti-alt history realism niggers kill yourself. You are in the wrong game and community. There is a reason you are gatekept from other games too.
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>>2406119
Hello goodwinson
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>>2406090
>why is the whole purge split into half a dozen focus-points?
>why am I required to suddenly switch branches to progress in the current branch? (there is no visual indicator for this being necessary btw)
Literally Modern Day mod.
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>>2406120
This one actually have you good bonuses and some agency like earlier wars or a bit of flexibility in diplomacy. Soviet tree had 630 days of filler where you literally did nothing before you could get to the severely limited choices.
One good thing about the Italian tree was being able to get focuses for both carriers and battleships.
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>>2406090
If you think this is in any way complicated, then you are indeed a retard.
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>>2406148
>This is your brain on being a roach
Reminder it took an Afghanistan DLC to outdid the levels of fantasies the Ottoman path contains

t. playing HoI since it was called EU: HoI
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Norman, I kneel
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>>2406120
This is one of the better trees, especially as far as major goes
Especially when compared with the shitfest that's the current Italian trees.
Nigger who thing bigger = better trees deserve the rope
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the economy of conquest shit in the new german tree is so fucking annoying, that I just opt to do the other branch.
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>>2406183
It is good if you know how to manage it and can complete the autarky in time. Personally, I too prefer to take my time and bleed my enemies before striking, so I also do the other side even if it has weaker bonuses.
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>>2406183
i like it, you won't outscale allies anyway, might as well get better upfront bonuses
what i found annoying is if you found RK before stealing the gold, the option just disappears
i lost -60% gold decision because i created british RK before using it
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>>2406204
It puts me on a timer to go annex countries and because I am a good-ish human player, it just makes me end the game early.
So I can't take advantage of the autarky bonuses anyway.
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>>2406183
>the economy of conquest shit in the new german tree
Is this in vanilla? I havent played vanilla since 2021.
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>>2406213
>vanilla
yes, it is.
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>>2406214
>>2406183
>>2406193
>>2406204
>>2406208
>Vanilla is now more of a modded experience than mods
just fucking shut it down
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>>2406208
it's not about autarky, you get bonuses to mils and free shit upfront
civs are a noob trap, especially on germany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmasRtbhtJY
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>>2406219
paradox devs are trying to catch up with modders by adding complex mechanics to each new focus tree
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They are having a mental breakdown over in /tno/ after they calculate that its impossible for the big tno update to release this year or next. Its hilarious to watch, an insider is crashing out as he keeps providing team figures that show the update will never release.
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>>2406248
I only want the nixon personalist dictatorship and schlafy becoming a fascist after getting cucked by her gay husband.
Everything else I don't care about.
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>>2406248
TNOsissies... is it over?
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>>2406258
Wait until 2028.
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>>2406261
shit
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>>2405969
it's just a single discord trying to make the general their own
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>>2406269
I thought that I was crazy but I think that really is the case. It's really reminiscent of the time where tno devs took over the general and I felt like I was crazy when I called out mods flaws and got tons of replies trying to argue back on every single point no matter if it made sense or not. The same dynamic is evident in tfr where my critique of lafayette and other OCs where I couldnt get a word across without tfrtards malding, but when the Novo acknowledged my critique and promised to change the same group turned on to having the same position as Novo despite arguing against it 5 minutes later. It's kinda surreal to see.

Then again 4chan as a site is easily curated and there are countless of evidence like mods being in contact with FBI and Gamergate 2 being obsessively deleted and everyone mentioning it getting banned. It's not hard to imagine there being some kind of conspiracy behind it or that main posters may be connected through other platforms like it was the case with tno devs.
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>>2406273
this is schizophrenia
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>>2406222
damn it really is all the same but worse.
Why did they bother offering a choice?
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>>2406283
one is the "I don't want to engage with this" and the other is historical
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>>2405969
>>2406269
>>2406273
why are you replying to yourself all weekend, every weekend?
lolcow behavior.
I hope you get abused at work during the week.
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>>2406258
>>2406263
Have you ever noticed that no other mod team does this shit?
Storyboarding is for an animated cartoon on nickelodeon or cartoon network not a hoi4 mod.
Narratives don't need this much planning.
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Is there any information, leaks or otherwise, on new Franz content? I know there was supposed to be a Jingle Jungle update dedicated for Right Germany, anything about that?
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>>2406283
desu if you are playing vanilla on easy nothing really matters
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>>2406273
they mostly post in eastern european time
won't be long now until they are finally locked in the cage without internet access
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>>2406291
its a cursed dev team, at this point these are only being made to be leaked because its never hitting steam
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>>2406294
actual work hasn't started on that
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>>2406294
What I really want to know is has there been any released info on the Putin path or stalemate 1EW outcome?
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>>2406335
pretty sure there hasn't
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>>2406335
Honestly I’m pretty sure most of this chart has been scrapped / put on indefinite hiatus / we’re just concepts only barely entering development. Or this was just a fake.
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>>2406342
not really i can access some of them on the git
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>>2406342
>fake
Nah a lot of the stuff in here was announced later on after the chart leaked, it's possible some of this stuff got scrapped but the chart is real. For non announced stuff hopefully the Dugin expansion, Wagner expansion, and Jingo Jungle survived the axe.
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>>2406343
The some in question?
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>>2406342
definitely not fake, but most of it has not started development
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>>2406345
rapture and elysium are named, some other builds are most likely russian updates
there are also other branches i haven't been able to access, one of them being what i believe to be the german update
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>>2406347
‘Not able to access’? Are they password protected or something?
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>>2406348
i can't clone them for whatever reason
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Why is this thread moving so quickly?
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>>2406351
Discussion of leaks + faggots shitting it up and samefagging
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>>2406351
off topic bs
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If Vanguard of the Wild can invade Europe we need a special event where Ted's top guy caves in Schwab's head with a boulder.
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>>2406335
I want to be able to put identitarians in charge of Germany and federalize as a chud EU without losing to Medvedev.
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>>2406364
uncle ted would unfortunately have died of cancer at that point
VoTW will probably get post war content though
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>>2406367
Losing to Medvedev should allow the player to pick any faction. Influenced by war-time and post-war decisions.
Maybe the EU just digs up the old WW2 propaganda posters and frames the russians as a bolshevik asiatic horde.
And for the communists as an ever expanding fascist empire with an oligarchy.
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>>2406373
Maybe you should. The EU reactions aren't realistic anyway.
A Germany with worse covid, Saudi refugees, an economic crisis and loss in a war against Russia would 100% go fascist no matter which party ruled Russia.
Then again realism shouldn't kill the fun.
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>>2406335
The Frozen War sounds like the coolest fucking thing ever.
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>>2406382
I wonder how they will actually put it in the game. Maybe something like both factions ending up with the states they control or the war simply freezing with modifers like it is done with Myanmar.
Really has the potential to become the most kino outcome of the war.
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>>2406386
The Myanmar modifiers suck. They dont apply to volunteers and units can still get hit and lose org. Other than that the Shan microstates dont participate.
Most likely it would be a real peace but the war continues with the border skirmish mechanic or something.
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>>2406388
Border skirmish mechanic could turn it into the slog that is the real war between Ukraine and Russia. I unironically want to lose 20000 men to take a single state after 7 months.
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Ma and Mason linked up! Burn it or nuke it?
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>>2406392
They should make sending volunteers to it impossible then because it would break that idea.
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>>2406396
James Mason is genuinely a funny guy.
Some journalist asked him about people committing terror attacks because of his book. He said that he doesn't condone such attacks but if you are going to do it, at least do it right.
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>>2406248
1.1 or yipee whos coming out first
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>>2406416
1.1, based off the leaks it'll probably release around the end of this year.
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>>2406416
1.1, by a long shot. 1.1 is just America stuff, yippie is reworking America, and Germany, and Amur, and Africa at the same time.
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>>2406416
1.1
Yippie's scope is fucking enormous.
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>>2406416
did you check /tno/? they have a fuck ton of work to do
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>>2406427
stop saving the thumbnails!!
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>>2406427
wrong file sorry
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>>2406427
i didnt know it was this bad, just dissolve the dev team and let tno rot
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>>2406273
You aren't crazy, like 80% of posters itt are just Otto von Biscuit's discord buddies. Ever since i exposed him these generals have saw an increase in spam and shilling for tfr. It's not a coincidence
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>>2406434
didn't you say you were jealous of him?
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>>2406429
No, >>2406427 was the right file
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>>2406435
why would i be jealous of a pedophile
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>>2406434
>80% of posters itt are just Otto von Biscuit's discord buddies.
I have been schizo posting ITT for a year straight. I never ever touched discord and will continue not to. THank you.
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>>2406441
You said he got away with it, while you couldn't.
It was kind of sussy the way you worded it.
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>>2406444
Oh i got the joke it's making stuff up to try and get a rise out of me. Clever, I'll fall for this one later.
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like 80% of the posts itt are just a couple kiwitroons. Ever since they were comprehensively named these generals have saw (this is horrible grammar btw) an increase in spam and shilling for tno. It's not a coincidence
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>>2406441
How is Otto von Biscuit a pedophile?
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>>2403797
I know that one is more iconic but they should use this portrait instead, less goofy looking.
>>2406342
It was most likely true but by now discarded after red dawn.
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>>2406453
It should alternate between the two randomly, his base portraits already do that.
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Why does Russia have no manpower in TFR? It just does not really make sense to me outside of balance reasons but surely there is a better way to represent that then changing one of Russia's defining aspects militarily.
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>>2406457
in the 1st war? you are supposed to be outnumbered by NATO
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>>2406457
Its very negligible because you can field 100 strong units easily. The mechanized, mbts and other such brigades trivialize the low manpower.
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>>2406457
You can get dozens of divisions from your puppets to fill the gaps.
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>>2406457
1. The ‘Modern Conscription’ modifier which reduces your recruitable pop by at least 50%. No, you cannot remove it normally.
2. You probably went down ‘Enchance Gerasimov Doctrine’ in your military tree instead of ‘Refine Deep Battle Theory’.
3. If you’re going the LDPR route, you’re having extra manpower sucked up from occupying Central Asia + caucuses. You don’t get cores on those until after the 1EW I think.
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Can the TFR devs make it so NATO doctrine isn't so meta?
I would pick CSTO or the other one (I cant even fucking remember now that I closed the game) but in every situation NATO doctrine is literally just the best.
Since Mechanized + Tanks are so strong, line infantry/militia/special forces + artillery are so weak, there is no point in bothering with anything but moto+mech+MBTs unless your country doesn't have a lot of factories.
And further, tanks are crazy inexpensive relative to the industry and production buffs you get in most countries which exaggerates this problem.
Right now you can just use an okay Gen 2 tank design in a mixed Mechanized and MBT template and you never have to worry about it being out-classed by a Gen 3 tank since they are too close in stats. Better tanks and better tank parts should be expensive but scale better equivalent to the cost so there is still a reason to spam bad tanks for fill but make better tanks so you can beat the shit ones. Maybe even add more armor and engine upgrades so there is more of a gap between the starter tanks and the end game tanks.
Mechanized is also too good for the cost. It's like a maxxed out light tank for half the cost. Light Mechanized has almost no difference in stats compared to Mechanized too, almost totally redundant.
Special Forces are not strong enough by themselves and no doctrine really gives them the power they should have. It's a shame because the vanilla SF trees aren't visible but there needs to be a replacement for it otherwise SF is irrelevant.
NATO doctrine wins right now because it gives the best buffs relevant to the ideal army composition and templates (which in most cases you start with).
Like how vanilla superior firepower was in the past. There was no point in picking that over the others in 9/10 cases until they changed the entire doctrine system.
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>>2405794
desu i like plain tno ost more


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqNp8eg6JkU&list=PLYdmSYGE7W1njkYPbBoqTlQ14MZsHIvKs&index=1
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>>2406495
They have been reworking the doctrine system to be in line with the DLC.
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>>2405981
His full statement. Allegedly, not what got him banned.
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It's absolutely insane that Yippie for TNO has plans to go up to 1977. While the rest of the world has no content up to that point.
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>>2405981
>>2406565 (me)
Although he himself claims that he was shitcanned because he started a shitstorm over his genuine desire to delete Guangdong.
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>>2406565 (me)
>>2406567 (me)
For people who aren't up to speed: deleting Guangdong is actually something a lot of nudevs want because it represents a lot of what they hate, and marks the clear line between their reign and what came before them. In case you ever wondered why the mod's shit it's because they spend a lot of time fighting over which popular tags to delete. If you doubt me, please remember that Burgundy is confirmed to be deleted in the Germany rework (releasing never) and Goering along with two full Russian unifiers got skeletonized.
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Is he right?
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>>2406567
Not sure if that's a joke or real.
He was actually fired because Mango's in Downfall mode and the writing team has consistently failed to write enough for the past updates and are way behind writing for Yippie. He can't manage his team but they didn't fully purge him because he's still on good terms with Mango and his clique.
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>>2406570
It almost certainly isn't a joke. The same team that's skeletonizing half the world wouldn't shitcan someone for suggesting that they should skeletonize a tag that a lot of them hate and regard with the same bitter envy they regard Tabby with.
>Mango in Downfall mode demanding that ghost divisions conduct counteroffensives
lmao. What losing the race to 600k does to a mf.
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>>2406568
don't chinese fans love guangdong?
this shit is evil
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>>2406629
It has succeeded
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>>2406569
No. He is, in fact, quite wrong.
>>2406568
Wrong. Nobody on the Team wants to delete Guangdong. Obsessed TNOhate (me)poster, you couldn't be more wrong.
>>2406457
Because TFR is simultaneously overly conceived and poorly planned out. There's about a million routes for Russia, but it's as deep as a puddle.
>>2406427
>>2406429
Wrong information. It's all so tiresome, you know? It's literally impossible trying to negotiate or cooperate with you "people." You willingly lie to present your beliefs. You refuse to be reasonable in your analysis. You just TNOhate, all the time. When I first came upon these threads, I couldn't believe it. I literally could not believe my eyes. I began marking the amount of TNOhate in a Notepad document. I reached fourteen obvious instances after just minutes of browsing, not even going through a quarter of the thread. Ctrl + F "TNO" right now will quite literally show you that it has been mentioned ninety (90) times. TNOhate's worldview is so maligned and confused that it thinks about TNO in the worst possible light wherever it goes, at every possible angle. It seethes at seeing TNO's success. It seethes at seeing its triumph. It is pathetic.
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>>2406637
I am a TNO dev and I can confirm we are removing Guangdong.
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>>2406637
>MAGA Accelerationism
I think we've figured out what the secret Dark MAGA path is.
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>>2406640
it's barron going rogue btw
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>>2406642
Kino incoming. Still hope we get Army of Donald John Trump content at some point even if this is true.
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>>2406637
welcome back ai slopper, how was your weekend?
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>>2406637
>Nobody on the Team wants to delete Guangdong
Your writing lead did!
Based image btw this is literally what we can all get behind. You're actually making some decent AI slop now.

>>2406645
Clearly he's still completely felted by TNO's loss in the race for 600K.
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>>2406637
Current, accurate information or gtfo
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>>2406429
>nixon half done
>schlafy barely started
It's so fucking over
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>>2406640
Its a fairly obvious parody of the german civil war so I think either hegseth or barron will lead the militarist trumpism.
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>>2406697
No leaks. Your era of outdated leaks is over. They were never current, either. The amount of "pwn" you and posters such as this TFRposter-liar >>2406639 thought you could exact upon TNO is over; you rely on the same outdated memes and information, whilst TNO development continues, to your abject horror. I know, you know, the silent majority audience who read this thread and take sides knows that you are afraid, afraid and losing. This is a new era in HOI4 Modding posting. The very fact that that there's one obsessed TFRposter in this very thread that cannot believe there are multiple people who support TNO and think they must be all the same person shows that the mere thought of multiple people believing in TNO, who have hope for TNO, who wish TNO well and have faith in the modern TNO development team, create a sense of terror that results in cognitive dissociation.
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>>2406711
ok
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>>2406644
I really hope we get that in an eventual Caligula facelift. Doesn't have to be massive, just let me play as the AoDJT, let me avenge America's #1 martyred hero and give me an ending. That'd be great.

>>2406709
Why'd they do a GCW meme after the civil war? It's just going to be a normal succession I think.

>>2406711
>The era of leaks is over
>All the recent TNO team lead roundtables just leaked >>2404812 >>2406220
Leaking has never been so BACK.
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>>2406569
nigga was nervous to release his broken submod and had to make an essay about it. Lol!
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>>2406719
>Leaking has never been so BACK.
>relying on false and fake leaks
You really think that will stop TNO development? That it will hurt things? It won't.
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>>2406724
Nigga earned his right to walltext after making one of the two successful TNO fan forks all by himself through the power of autism. At least he delivered something worth talking about instead of endlessly talking about what he wants to do.

>>2406725
Oh no I hope you guys will continue because you're lolcows and an endless source for comedy at this point.
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>>2406737
>haha someone I don't like is such a LOLCOW
>I think this person is funny he's such a LOLCOW
>wow this person did something I disagree with that totally means he's a LOLCOW
You don't know what a lolcow is. And, no, someone's poor pathetic attempt at an unsanctioned intellectual property theft of The New Order to create his own unauthorized version is not "earning his right" to anything.
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>>2406748
A lolcow is a silly bugger that never learns from their mistakes and keeps repeating their errors in defiance of objective reality. Please tell me how Nepalese Antarctica is a hotly desired piece of content.
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>>2406457
Did you go for Gerasimov doctrine? It exists so that AI Russia loses more often. A player can play around it, and maybe even come out fo it stronger, but it requires planning beforehand
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>>2406719
I more meant the tropes for each guy, there could just be a regular succession like you said. Alslo on re-reading I think Vance more represents the militarists as well.
Bormann - Donald Jr
Speer - Rubio/other moderate
Goering - Vance
Heydrich - Barron
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>>2406782
Jr gets capped, his assassination is part of what causes Trump to go Dark MAGA.
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>>2406495
>Like how vanilla superior firepower was in the past.
Grand Battleplan was better for years until the doctrine system changed. Superior Firepower being the best doctrine was before the Soviet DLC when everyone was running 7/2s and 14/4s. Even then I used Grand Battleplan with pure infantry to dunk it on the AI.
Most Youtubers just kept using Superior Firepower and line artillery because that's what they have always been using. In fact before the update to doctrines, it was arguably the weakest doctrine.
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>>2406782
Disagree in parts.
Bormann - Don Jr, you're on the money.
Speer - Alex Jones. He's the most hardcore paleocon of the MAGA crowd and an actual reformist that's promised to destroy every fragment of the neocon regime. Rubio? Nah, he's a neocon nigga. He'd just preserve the old order. Speer's the reformist that'll make things live on, and as nutty as the guy is, I think Alex Jones fits the bill once you get past the memes.
Goering - Hegseth. Think about it. The strongest shill for Trump's wars, evoking Christian nationalist fervor to make people enlist for the Trumpist cause.
Heydrich - Nigga you're wrong, Barron Trump isn't insane. He only wants paybacka gainst the guys that killed his dad. You're better off with BASED Joe Kent. The most UltraMAGA patriot there ever was, and in this timeline where Trump never betrayed him he'll put everyone that ain't MAGA in a fucking ICE camp.

Overall, not a bad list. I think mine would make for a better gigaTrump run, but yours is fine too and I mean no disrespect.
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>any leaks that make the TNO team look bad are false and fake
Delusional
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>>2406568
Why do they want to delete Burgundy? That's like the TFR devs removing playable countries from the ACW.
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>>2406799
Because Burgundy isn't "realistic". honestly, I don't know. A good excuse would be that the lead for Germany, Lamounier, is a gigantic moron that hates the mod he hijacked. How else could you explain him removing one of the most popular and iconic parts of the mod? Same retard that had Hitler abolish slavery and become a generic USA expy in the cold war in the name of realism.
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>>2406637
>>2406711
(You)
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Notice how when any sort of aryan mod discussion starts happening the untermenschen TNO subhuman starts blabbering on about his gay mod again?
The astroturfing is transparent.
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Wonder if the NK civil war will be restored when NK gets content, would be a good way to cause a political shakeup in the event that China loses the Taiwan war.
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>>2406806
Lamounier honestly doesn't deserve to look like a cool BOPE nazi.
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>>2406808
It's so fucking weird how TNO makes Germans have 30 layers of plot armor but are also written to be the most evil heartless monsters alive.
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>>2406637
What's wrong with the points on the right except BRICS?
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>>2406811
aislopper is a liberal faggot
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>>2406811
>>2406817
aislopper aka mateusz the nicola impersonator is a troll with 0 belief system that changes his rhetoric every other post.
he writes gibberish for the (You)s.
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Do you ever savescum after getting completely wrecked by the AI and it suddenly becomes passive when before they were attacking endlessly and even attempting encirclements? Is this an actual feature or is it all in my head?
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>>2406825
The AI aggression level 100% resets on reload. I've ALT-F4'd out of unwinnable situations came back and won before.
Has to be intended behavior.
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>>2406827
>Game encourages rage quitting
Bravo Paradox
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>>2406819
It's funnier if you think that he's like Nicola and actually believes the nonsense he writes.
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>>2406825
The AI will only attempt to majorly push/make encirclements if its already doing well. By holding it off after you reload the ai just presumes it can't win by rushing and does minor pushes instead.

Basically every better AI mod fixes that by just making the AI always aggressive unless it's actively losing.
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>>2406872
So basically, just giving everyone a focus on offensive modifier that's tuned to work for general gameplay? Makes sene really.
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I'm doing a Gunther run, what path should I make russia go down for maximum larp?
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>>2406907
medvedev
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>>2406566
Why would you even want to play as literal nazis, chud? Kys.
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>>2406907
You're locked into EU only, so you're kinda limited.
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Russian_Federation/Medvedev#Possible_Leaders
For a serious run: Pick Medvedev, it's the closest to what you'll fight IRL. Putinist AuthDem is the closest to what a "bad" United Russia is and it fits his anti-Putinist LARP.
For giga LARP, pick a communist or fascist from the above list of your liking. It's more of a "I'm definitely the lesser of two bad guys" vibe that way, and is a pretty good larp.

Overall though Fehlinger's just fun, enjoy your run and post screenshots when you're done buddy.
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>>2406916
QPQ's hands wrote this post.
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>>2406919
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TFR doesn't get enough credit for making subs the most powerful ship class. Even /k/ and Youtube military commentators don't usually realize or stress that submarines are the most powerful, most important kind of warship in the current era. The idea that surface ships, especially large ones like aircraft carriers, are the most important is an outdated WW2 hauntology that everyone still believes for some reason. A modern sub can sink absolutely any other ship easily while the opposite is not true. You do need surface ships for power projection, but if you don't control the sea first - which requires submarines - they're useless.

TFR surface ships without ASW get fucking massacred by submarines, and even those that do have it don't trade with them favorably unless they're dedicated ASW corvettes. Diesel sub spam is an easy way to sink fucking everything - only a multiplayer match where another player spams corvettes could counter it, the AI never makes enough.
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>>2406941
Subs are the only ships I make as Russia in TFR.
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>>2406941
I spam missile cruisers as every country.
In the European Wars the other side never really contests naval zones and they don't matter much anyway.
In the Asian Wars, navy matters a lot more but if you just spam missile cruisers the enemy fleets will never win against you anyway.
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>>2406941
i will never engage with the navy, you can't make me do it
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>>2406941
A few unarmed low visibility subs for spotting, (ground based not carrier) nav bombers for killing enemy ships and your starting fleet to get naval superiority after killing everyone is still the best ic wise for both japan and chinese.

For every other country you can just use your starting dockyards to spam subs like you said as you don't need anything better.
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>>2406929
based
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>>2406941
>*flies in your path*
>*blows up your subs*
>*blows up your ships too*
>*shreds your convoys also*
>never has to build carrier
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>>2407047
Naval bomber spam helped me wipe out the majority of the PDTO’s navy save for a couple ships within a month of the Great Asian War starting
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>>2406421
Was this made by a Rebo? TFR wiki has this image but with a name on it.
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Has there been anything posted about interactions between the APLA and redneck revolt?
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>>2407082
I guess so, the version without 'Made by Rebo' was posted here first. So either he made it or saw it here, took it, and claimed he made it. But he probably did just make it and didn't take credit until it was shared outside of the thread.
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>>2407151
They have their own National Front called the United Front (I think), who actually unifies the country will probably be determined by who has the most legitimacy like with the National Front.
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The National Catastrophe modifier for Russia is funny. You lost the first European War, so your industrial development tanks so hard, the majority of African nations know how to use tools better than you.
Dugin is op but how are you supposed to actually get to good industrial development with Navalny?
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Thoughts?
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>>2407229
Amerifats made Germany and France content. the Russian team made Russia and Japan.
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>>2407229
>Charles III becomes an Absolute Monarchist for no reasons
Because it's fun, but a constitutional monarchy path would be nice.
>Stephane Ravier
Don't follow French politics, what's wrong with his inclusion?
>Germany has like three paths
Technically four, but they could still use touching up. Which they are supposedly gettng if Jingle Jungle is still happening.
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>>2407229
>russians
he is wrong
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What is the most nazbol path for each country?
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In TNO if I failed to get PADESM airlifted into Madagascar before the conflict stage progressed to warfare is there anything I could do to make the Communists take power in Madagascar and prevent a total Sphere victory?
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>cool roleplay focus
>+5.0% consumer goods factories modifier
>political power gain: -25%
>factory output: -5.00%

>cringe focus
>2 free civilian factories in 4 different states
>gain political power: +150
>gain base stability: +10.00%
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Hello, it's me, the "aislopper"
I want to apologize for my previous behavior, TFR won and TNO lost
I'm trans btw, if that matters
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>>2407229
RDS
(Russian Derangement Syndrome)
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>>2407257
BASED
BASED
BAESD
BASED
FUCK TNO BOTTOM TEXT
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>>2407257
aisissies...
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If Mango lost the AI sloppers he's lost the elections.
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>>2407229
Imagine other popular hoi4 mods if everyone had to be their boring irl selves
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>>2407257
Untrue. Your obvious false lies are barely worth addressing; facially, you spew dishonesty.
>>2407229
>it must be Czar
>no it must be that other Xposter!
>it must be a polish person!
>it must be an AIposter
>i-it can't be someone else, because surely only one person hates TFR
>if more than one person hates TFR, it might mean that I'm wrong in mine own beliefs, and that cannot be the case!
>>2407261
West Derangement Syndrome. WDS. See. We can do it, too, multipolarbot.
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>>2407277
>West Derangement Syndrome. WDS. See. We can do it, too, multipolarbot.
the left can't meme
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>>2407277
rds
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>>2407277
>They stand before emptiness
>Both the aliens and humans are TFR in the bottom panel
The left can't meme.
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I call out otto von troonscuit and his cronies and thread activity immediately flops, even with the tno ai poster posting, its still dead. They're scared. The end of hoi4 modding generals is here.
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This shtick would've worked better if he'd had any relevance to the community in the past several months and wasn't permabanned from the mod you say he's shilling for.
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>>2407410
Schizos aren't very good at adapting to changing conditions.
His last relevancy was being felted by Grisha like the rest of Fehlinger's NAFO team lmao
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>>2407456
And he was only there because he was the only one besides Fehlinger that knew anything about TFR and he lost hard lmao.
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>>2407410
and if his friend didn't make a video attacking TFR for banning him
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>>2407387
Good, generals are shit anyway and just lead to shitposting and drama like this. It keeps being proven correct every single day.
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>>2407543
unlike normal game threads, where each popular game has it's dedicated schizo posting the same image over and over again
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>>2406941
How are you using them? Old way was splitting them into raider fleets of a dozen or less IIRC, is that what you do for actually sinking enemy warships too? Or do you sub deathstar or something?
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This thread is so fucking boring that we're still posting about the NATO fail stream from a year ago.
Nigger bon bizkit this Greaser that Grampther this how about you tongue my fucking anus.
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>>2407667
>Nigger bon bizkit this Greaser that Grampther this how about you tongue my fucking anus.
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>>2407667
>a year ago
Are you a time traveller
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Why France in the fire rises can't become the EU while Germany can?
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>>2407708
No he's just a butthurt moron.

>>2407739
Because Germany is the alliance leader and they're supposed to form together anyway. It doesn't really matter until they let the Euros have more freedom in which 2EW path they choose.
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Bokoen got banned from Twitch for saying that Russia deserves to get glassed.
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>>2407786
he has been going off on twitter recently
>WHY ARE THERE COMMUNISTS AT INTERNATIONAL WORKER'S DAY?!?!?
and now picrel
I would if he would say the same about the ICE protestors..
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>>2407786
>armchair general barked for bloodshed
>got banned
Good riddance, God I hate these kinds of niggers. Pavlov's house offered more resistance than his entire country and in his infinite HOI4 eceleb genius this faggot says Allies should have crashed straight into a ten million strong Soviet army at it's zenith.
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>>2407819
>police beats up antifa
I support this regardless of context.
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>>2407786
>>2407819
>>2407822
>>2407833
I'm not a gaming youtuber for a living and I would never be one but if I was, I would abstain from every political debate, never use xitter, never cultivate a politically based audience. I would just exist as a boring faggot youtuber and that's it.
Evidently you don't gain followers for being a politicaca crying about "MUH RED BLUE. WHITE BLACK YELLOW BROWN" bullshit it doesn't make you money it literally makes you lose followers. Like I just don't see the point. No one asked for your opinion on gay ass protests happening in daneland or whatever the fuck country you live in.
Those elsagate pedos are kinda smart because they target kids with slop instead of adults who will move heaven and earth to DESTROY anyone who disagrees with them on the minorest of things like what side of the road is the correct one to drive on (it's the right btw).

TLDR What the FUCK is a kilometer
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Has the developers of the fire rises had said anything about coups for the ACG?
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>>2407838
>No one asked for your opinion on gay ass protests happening in daneland or whatever the fuck country you live in.
He has a PHD in politics, you know.
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>>2407782
>>2407788
The /tno/ baker gave a shoutout to TFR for getting 600K.
>TNO was so committed to realism that they lost on the anniversary of Germany's IRL capitulation.
lmao
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>>2407852
Oh fucking god damn it you just summoned aisloppa again
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>>2407859
He was going to shit up the thread anyway. He just can't help himself. He's so mad over dead mods.
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Anyone got any tips on how to deal with occupying territory as AWD? I know it's supposed to be a bitch to deal with and rape your manpower, but any advice?
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>>2407871
don't bother with it
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>>2407819
rundown on him? is he a rightoid zionist or something?
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>>2407871
There are a few focuses that make compliance less ass but overall you're kinda fucked. Make a good basic occupation division with some MP and research better MP to spare yourself from the headache. The good news is that if you beat the Deep South and South you're going to be pretty safe and if you're lucky when the NF goes to war with Biden you can get some really decent land grabs. One of the most important things you can do in your campaign imo is to try and block off the Patriot Front from gaining more land westwards by grabbing as much of the midwest as possible when Biden dies. It'll make the final wars a lot easier.

>>2407896
He's a rad-centrist NAFOid from Denmark. As far as I can tell he's just a massive EU establishment shill.
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>>2407896
EU cocksucker and reddit extraordinaire. Tried to ruin Grisha after the war started, which backfired in spectacular fashion.
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>>2407929
How?
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Bokoen is a libcuck retard but I also literally want Grisha dead so I'm not picking a side in this one.
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>>2407938
>I'm not picking a side in this one.
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>>2407938
desu he might be a cuckold, but at least he's not a propagandist for an anti-white regime that started the most destructive war in europe since ww2
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>schizo still replying to himself to make it seem like he holds the majority opinion on a dead thread
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How do I add events?
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>>2407989
this deluded faggot subjecting himself to russian psychiatry was amusing
what's he up to these days anyway
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>>2407993
idk probably OD'ing on benzos again.
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>>2407786
>>2407819
>>2407822
It really is astounding how Westerners play into every piece of propaganda Russia portrays them as. Some middle class centrist Dane espouses genocide and the FSB's marketing department gains a breath of new life.
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>>2408000
checked, westerners are retarded
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>>2407848
Well it sure doesn’t fucking seem like it given what he says and how he conducts himself
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>>2407786
>>2407819
>Kick
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>>2408010
what did he expect? he isn't a top streamer who the platform can't afford to lose.
he can't just say a country should be wiped out irl.
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>>2408016
Bokoen forgot that twitch mods are commie intafada types, not liberal NAFO EU simps like he is.
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>dust trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5DqhUnDi8Q
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>>2408002
He behaves EXACTLY as retarded as you'd expect someone with a PhD in polsci that also suffers from Xitter brain rot.

>>2408010
>Get banned from the gigaliberal platform for crimethink
>Move to the filthy gutter without rules
He's gonna get fucking shanked. It'd be really funny if he started to pick fights with the local fauna of political streamers there like the Kino Casino or some of the Sector remnants.
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>>2408030
Should it be Trump Jr.?
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Hello guys, aislopper here. Mango refused to give me a blowjob and my bull got angry at me again.
Fuck TNO.
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>>2408039
Hell yeah brother
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>>2407838
I would never engage with politics except for dropping some minor hints that I am a chud.
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>>2408039
me on the left
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>>2408049
raped behavior
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>>2408000
Then there's me. Some guy who makes niggers like Fuentes look moderate, who just wants to return to 2014 borders, without further bloodshed.
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>>2408062
And then there's Chunky. He's dead.
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>>2408057
Nah that would be some libtard saying that staying non-political is unacceptable but the moment you voice anything political diverging from 2026 leftist rhetoric, they call for your death.
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everything but modded hoi4
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>>2408080
Any news/drama from any mods lately? Besides the TFR and TNO leaks.
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>>2408010
This is like if a right winger got banned from xitter and took a vacation to bluesky lmao
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>>2408062
>who just wants to return to 2014 borders
Why do you want the US to re-invade Afghanistan?
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QLL PQTRIQTS GQ!
GQ NQW!
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>>2408101
Fake
>>2408102
Real
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>play KX
>find an interesting path
>it's short
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>>2408105
wut path anon?
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Path for this feel?
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>>2408106
Any of the New York ones, honestly. There are a lot, but they're all short, and apparently very few of them are unifiers and none of them has a post-CW tree.
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>>2408109
Every single New York path is actually a unifier, and I believe most get unique cosmetics upon doing so, but it's not very fun unless you use the buff in the rules.
Also, I think most paths can do the generic American forpol tree after unification, which is better than nothing, though yeah - most political paths only being 6 focuses deep is sad.
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>>2408112
It's something, but I wish they were more complete. All those people look interesting.
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>>2408112
>>2408118
NYPD being the unifier is canon and no one can convince me otherwise.
You telling me Fred Trump would give a damn about unifying the US?
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>>2408129
>Getting UltraTrump 75 years early
Nice.
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>>2408129
>businessman not wanting a larger space to do business in
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>>2408141
>>2408150
The long dick of the law will sort you syndie sympathizing racketeers out.
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>>2407786
>>2408010
Apparently enjoying his time off slop dot tv
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>>2408180
>KiwiFarmsDotNet
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>>2408180
>"Hurr Russian population deserves to get nuked for not deposing Putin"
I hate this take. As if he would be a resistance fighter combating the current government if he switched places with the average Russian.

I dislike the current Russian government too but it's funny how hating on Russians collectively is perfectly legal racism because of the war. Yet when I only call for deportations of economic migrants, I get labeled a racist. I could face genuine legal threats if I called for revoking the citizenship of New Europeans who clearly shouldn't be here.
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>>2408213
>As if he would be a resistance fighter combating the current government if he switched places with the average Russian.
This but if you were under a timelimit of a few days in the past and guaranteed to return to your body in the present.
Groundhog day but it's one guy slowly causing an entire mass uprising in another country.
Someone needs to make a movie based on this idea.
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>>2408213
>I hate this take.
It's pretty retarded since I imagine hearing shit like this would make the average anti-Putin Russian second guess if getting rid of him really is a good idea when his foreign detractors call for the mass killing of Russians. And now to make my post on topic I hope TFR's Russian warlords eventually get content.
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>>2408030
>when you're so bored waiting for a new update you make new content by playing shit that isnt meant to be played
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>>2408225
Many such cases.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_4PNyZ480
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>>2408215
No make it a roguelike indie game instead.

>>2408219
>this would make the average anti-Putin Russian second guess if getting rid of him really is a good idea
I remember hearing Farage talk about how Germany should have been utterly crushed after WW1 instead of the armistice because Versailles was apparently not severe enough. I definetly did not become more sympathetic to the British government and political parties of the past and now.
This is on topic because it's like how Russia gets screwed over after the 1EW.
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>>2408213
There's something unnerving about seeing all these live learn love liberals go full eternal race war because a TV told them that a people is metaphysically evil and that a country they didn't know existed is Harry Potter. It makes a lot of the post-1EW situations more credible really. You don't have thinking publics capable of nuance in these countries. All of them going 1488 because a television told them too? Sure, why not.a critical mass would go along and all the indoctrination of the past 50 years would vanish. What an iron hand over media does to a mf.
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>>2408307
>seeing all these live learn love liberals go full eternal race war because a TV told them
This started long before the war, though. Not specifically against Russia, but we've seen those liberals give the worst Nazis a run for their money since at least 2016.
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>>2408307
It's truly insane how Charlie Kirk (the most moderate nigger tof our time) was killed for political reasons by a leftist, while millions of leftists cheered about his death and made fun of his dead body collapsing in his seat.
You can get these people to support Stalin era like purges and everything that came with them for the right cause.
Imagine if just for a month, there was suddenly proper press coverage for crimes committed by migrants. Like that one Brit who got stabbed to death a few days ago and the police apparently handcuffed him when he was bleeding out because the perpetrator claimed the Brit was racist.
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>>2408213
let's say for a moment that a brave russian liberal shoots Putin dead.. his successor will be even more extreme and crackdown even harder on people's rights.
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>>2408365
And result in greater likelihood that Putin's regime would collapse like a house of falling cards. The more leaders you wipe out, especially when there's little planned succession, the more the organization faulters. You would know this if you played TNO, but your TNOhate is so obsessive you can't see the geopolitical lessons it offers.
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>>2408365
>Vladimir "Gick Warfare" Putin dies
>Fuck warfare and incrementalism ends
Why are they acting like this is a good thing? Oh wait they're high on their own supply, believe everyone is Hitler and more or less criminalized any nuanced discussion beyond "they're like Mordor lel." Niggaz genuinely think that when Mr. Moderate dies everyone will hold a massive pride parade through Moscow and pledge their support to America and the EU (after both said they'd destroy them). Can you imagine if an event like that fired in-game?
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>>2408358
Charlie Kirk would be fighting for authoritarianism in the Patriot Front if he were incorporated into the mod. He truly was a terrible person who knew very little about the world around him.
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>>2408384
Why would he do that when he'd be more accurately be shown as a ChristCon and would at best b a Christian in the ACG or at worst one of the less radical guys in Army of God
Are you high
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>>2408389
He was closer to Miller and Bannon, two Patriot Front guys, than Boebert, for example.
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>>2408391
Neither of those should be in Patriot Front desu as anything but AuthDem tier which is how nationalist populism is usually depicted. So Jacksonian, maybe, but you're wrong if you think he'd roll with the fash crowd.
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>>2408382
>The more leaders you wipe out, especially when there's little planned succession, the more the organization faulters
Israel unironically believes this
didn't actually work
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>>2408433
>bro just one more assassination and iran will collapse donald please five million more bombs to attack iran just one more assassination of a political figure and the islamic republic will cease to exist, replaced by gay rights freedom democracy
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>>2408180
whats twitch stance on Israel Gaza genocide?
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Assuming it already isn't one 'America is a lunatic asylum' really should be a loading screen quote for TFR.
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>>2408462
You can mention it but they have a vague hateful conduct rule that forces you to treat the Israelis with kid gloves and you aren't allowed to say bad things about Zionists etc. It's ok it you praise it, but if you use these terms negatively it magically becomes a slur.

Presumably, calling for the extermination of either involved country would and should fall under this rule if they're consistent.
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>>2407935
Grisha refused to cuck out after the war started, so he and anyone like him were kicked out their youtuber group. Your usual vindictive shitbag behavior.
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>>2408512
Very cringe behavior. Glad that karma Boomerang cane back to shatter his jaw.
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>>2408512
he was a straight up Zigger retard and 100% deserved ban
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>>2407819
imagine being such a nafobrained neoliberal subhuman that you get banned on fucking twitch of all places
>we live in a democracy but I'm going to argue for genocide
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>>2408551
someone should snitch on him for shilling for prigo
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>>2408358
>made fun of [Charlie Kirk's] dead body collapsing in his seat
In front of his chldren, too.
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I'm a tourist, and you guys seem way chiller than I was expecting.
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>>2408622
Don't worry his children are being mind raped into mossad agents. They spawned from Erika after all so that makes them maternally jewish.
>>2408626
what did you expect?
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>>2408634
Idk. Maybe something as bad as /pol/ crossed with the onions from r*ddit.
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>>2408635
>Maybe something as bad as /pol/ crossed with the onions from r*ddit.
/gsg/ is down the hall and to the left.
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>>2408636
Don't play anything but TFR and vicky 2 these days, so I'll pass.
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>>2408639
based map painter
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playing 1.1 is so fun
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>>2408635
There are some retards that fit that bill that post here but most of it's just autistic people painting maps or discussing mods.
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>>2408653
Are you a time traveler from 2028?
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>>2408512
I think loji is annoying but this gif is really cute
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Do I have enough air recon?
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>>2408688
Rookie numbers.
(Yes)
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>>2408682
no i just have the leaked build
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>>2408689
ty... By the way there's a subdoctrine for air recon and in addition to Scout Plane range it also gives generic intel boosts
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>>2408237
Germany was treated extremely fairly after ww1, especially compared to the deal they tried to impose upon the russians.
Really the only thing they should have changed was to allow Austria to join Germany if the Austrian people voted for it in a referendum.
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>>2408691
desu I don't want to play a leaked build of 1.1 because unfinished mods are usually dogshit.
>t. played other in progress mods before
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>>2408693
Name of the mod you're using that improves the stat UI for doctrines?
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>>2408703
There's no mod, but I have every DLC enabled and have a 1.1x UI scaling modifier at 1440p
When selecting a sub-doctrine you can click a little button at the bottom and then hover over the sub-doctrine to see the potential benefits
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>>2408693
What does intelligence even do?
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>>2408704
I see the button now. Didn't know that was in the game. Thank you.
>>2408705
Mainly better recon which means better tactic selection from your generals. For navy it directly helps naval supremacy. For air, detection bonuses. A lot of other shit too.
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>>2408707
Enough to dedicate an entirely new plane, IC to build it and an entire doctrine based around it? Sounds like a lot.
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>>2408707
>For navy it directly helps naval supremacy.
nvm this is fake news. Helps spotting speed not supremacy.
For Air it's basically useless in combat also.
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>>2408710
nah it's shit. Maybe it's worth it to have a naval bomber that can double as naval recon but recon planes meant to help your army are extremely niche.
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>>2408708
even he condemns Bo's statements and says the ban was justified
it's so fucking over
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>>2408715
yeah aisloppa has the minority opinion confirmed.
just like the contrarian faggots who were saying vic3 was good.
totally debunked by results and the test of time.
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>>2408707
>Mainly better recon which means better tactic selection from your generals
This, and then you can sometimes see enemy divs even when not in combat or a faction. And then there's also the +15% damage and defense bonus in combat from "intel advantage" which can be slightly useful
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>>2408708
>>2408715
>iSlop the Moist Cr1TiKaL of HOI4 modding says that you're a retard that deserved to be banned
He should just hang himself right now. I for one look forward to seeing him get mogged on Kick.
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>>2408719
he realized that the casino kick money pays a lot, because he made $200+ just with people watching the stream.
he is probably going to stay there and who knows? maybe a casino sponsorship wouldn't be that bad!
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>>2408720
>Bok will become the new Bossman Jack
I can't fucking wait for the arc where the Danefag starts buying meth from Somali migrants.
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>>2407871
core TX and/or GA/NC asap, if you have to set occupation laws to no garrison for some states to save manpower that's fine
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grisha's rt handlers deploying shills here on the day of the stream was absurd
why would you ever do that in a thread with single digit number of posters
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>>2408699
>imposing severe economic sanctions that create a mass poverty and hyperinflation while also limiting what you can and cant do to fix your economy is being extremely fair
You are a clearly retarded
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>>2406806
Is there any point in time where TNO gives way to actual dynamic gameplay and player choices, or is it just scripted garbage and mega events? Every diplomatic option was greyed out. Is diplomacy even unlocked later?
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>>2408693
Does anyone even use recon planes?
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>>2408742
Hyperinflation was intentionally caused by the weimer government so that it would be able to void it's own debts during the ruhr crisis.

Germany imposed a similar level of reparations upon France after the Franco-Prussian war and they paid it just fine as they didn't chimp out and ruin their economy to spite germany.
The only economic restrictions on Germany was just constraining their military industry so I don't know what you meant by that part.
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>>2408743
Nothing is unlocked, everything is railroaded and for the most part you're completely beholden to scripts and RNG. The only parts of the mod that actually functions like HOI4 content is what you have in Russia. It doesn't help that they're removing most wars and what little's there is being reduced to GUI slop that actively removes any agency. The worst part is that gimping the player makes it far more complicated to actually implement. They've even done shit like disabling Balance of Power to have their own custom cold war GUI as a replacement for normal volunteer sending. It's fucking insane how dedicated they are to making everything worse on purpose. They should just have made something for a different game if they hate everything about HOI4.
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>>2408746
Imagine lying this hard.
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>>2408741
>no one watches streamers, if you watch streamers you are a state sponsored shill
holy fucking cope.
Bokoen is this you trying to deflect from your mentally ill ban?
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>>2408743
>Is there any point in time where TFR gives way to actual dynamic gameplay and player choices, or is it just scripted garbage and mega events? Every diplomatic option was greyed out. Is diplomacy even unlocked later?
No. TFR is garbage.
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>>2408746
>Franco-Prussian war
did it last 4 years? did it cause france to lose millions of working age men? did it cause france to basically go broke?
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>>2408756
>This post is extremely low quality
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>>2408748
What the hell? How is it even shilled so hard if it's non-gameplay? Is it just ideology-tards gushing over the fictional political systems and alt-hist scenarios like "agrarian spartanism"
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>>2408758
>criticizing TFR should be a bannable offense!!!
t. TFRplayers. It's sad, really.
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>>2408762
No, but copy+pasting a post and replacing 3 letters should be.
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>>2408756
>>2408762
This. So much this. Fight back against the TNOhate!
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>>2408767
>samefagging
>copypasting
this is why you need to be banned regardless of what mod you are talking about.
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>>2408760
To re-state what he was saying, the mod had good gameplay at one point.
Then there were multiple cliques that took over, one that was working the long game to take it over for years finally won and destroyed everything that once made it cool.
All the gameplay related things were removed and skeletoned.
All the whacky world non OTL stuff that made the world interesting was removed.
>Is it just ideology-tards gushing over the fictional political systems and alt-hist scenarios like "agrarian spartanism"
Now it is exactly this. But it took a decade for it to get to this point.
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>>2408766
A witty retort is not a bannable offense.
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>>2408757
I meant that it was similar as a proportion of gdp post war ~2.5 in both cases. If the germans had kept sound economic policy instead of refusing to pay and then intentionally ruining their economy it would have been fully repaid by the late 40s
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>>2408775
>implying tno is a parasitic creature
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>>2408699
>Germany was treated extremely fairly after ww1
That is a fucking insane comment to make and to compare the situation to the Franco-Prussian War >>2408746 is nonsensically facetious. France lost Alsace-Lorraine which is the only possible comparison and even that pales to the utter destruction of the German Empire and her allies. Putting aside the economic issues, which were of course designed to break them, the cultural and territorial treatment of the Germans was the exact opposite of fair and the driving factor in setting up the rise of Hitler and the Second World War. You can not excuse the absolutely imbecilic decisions made at Versailles by looking at Brest-Litovsk and saying "but the Germans". Both Wilson and Lloyd George, along with many others, knew how awful the treaty was in regards to Germany and sought a fairer and even equal partnership with the newly democratic state.
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>>2408793
Between this and making all TFR enjoyers be depicted as cool chads that like to party I'm torn between him being a TFR sleeper agent and being genuinely retarded.
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>>2408744
>Does anyone even use recon planes?
I thought I was just tripping when I saw this, but apparently Scout Planes on Air Recon missions are counted as "air superiority" so it decreases your enemy's defense when you're attacking them with green air.

So in addition to giving you the intel advantage damage boost you also get literal air superiority for some reason, this is despite not having any weapons on the scout planes. I'll definitely use scout planes from now on if I'm fighting nations without any air force to speak of.
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>>2408808
wtf that's crazy 5000 hours i had no idea
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I am so proud that this community is standing up and fighting TNOphobia and creating a more safe and inclusive space.
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>>2408802
xe is a cuck
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>>2408808
>you get air superiority from disarmed scout planes
Apparently, you can also get air to air kills with bombers that don't have any weapons other than bombs. I got an ace with a tac bomber that had zero air attack.
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>The New Order: Mountains of Caucasia
Can you still get Josias as a leader in Kaukasien?
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>>2408826
No, it's based entirely on the nuTNO lore. No Josias or anything that really stands out. Just another instance of the devs using submodders to make their generic shit for them.

>>2408817
I think it's safe to say that the planes have some kind of basic gun baked into your stats but I agree, it's pretty funny.
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>>2408836
lol should have thought
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>>2408848
I personally went from being ready to redownload TNO to losing all hope in the span of a few seconds ngl.
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caligula got a new event
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>>2408899
Post it
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>>2408906
it was a lie, its about biden killing foids
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>>2408907
thats fucked up, I disavow
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>>2408907
Lies, my man Biden would never do that.
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>>2408699
>Germany was treated extremely fairly after ww1

>Britain contnued blockading Germany for A WHOLE YEAR after the armistice had been signed which led to hundreds of thousands of additional civilian deaths
>Germany had to pay reparations which were so severe that despite cutting down on the required payments, Germany was paying reparations until 2010

The British and French government deserved everything that happened and worse.
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>>2408907
My Eternal President.
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>>2408907
sounds cool
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>>2407228
At least they don't become a completely new tag and lose all MIOs and equipment designs like France.
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i think it's funny how western historiography flipped the script on revanchism
even the word itself is french, but instead of blaming the french for 40 years of radicalism and nudging the world toward destruction, institutions blame germans for payback
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>>2408945
Easily fixable btw its just that no one sees this as an issue so it wont get fixed.
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>>2408955
Foreigners acting like swine is just they culture. You reacting to this deplorable behavior is unmotivated skinhatred that should have you thrown in jail. This mentality is, in fact, the entire basis of western morality and has been for over a hundred years.
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>>2408985
>Foreigners acting like swine is just they culture.
It's actually not real. Foreigners don't commit more crime. And if they did, then this would be due to socio-economic factors. And if these didn't matter than this would be out fault for colonialism o algo even if the country in question never had colonies in places these migrants come from.
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>>2408987
It's like you asked an AI to generate as many boiler plate talking points in a single sentence.
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>>2408962
You don’t even need to remove the civil war, just have the player stay on the FRA tag instead of being swapped to FAF or whatever the socialist France tag is.

Or, have FAF and socialist France inherit the same MIOs and give them a buff to development growth and speed after the civil war.
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>>2408962
I imagine (and hope) they will eventually, it's not a huge deal but it is very annoying.
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>>2408997
>He got TFR just for the femboy meme
Since he also subbed to femboy anime shit for vanilla I think he just wanted to tell us that he was a gigantic fag.
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>>2408997
this branigger had no achievements on steam
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>>2408997
Well clearly the devs should honor this latinx by adding an event to the AWD where xim and xer buttbuddy try to join the AWD only to have landmines strapped to their chests and forced to bumrush a UoA position.
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>>2409001
I mean that's not uncommon. Many people just don't play vanilla with ironman on even if they've sunk a few thousand hours into HOI4
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>>2408997
it's crazy that tranny groomers are still allowed to operate freely
are they actually being protected by mossad or some shit
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>>2409009
>are they actually being protected by mossad or some shit
Yeah nigga, did you think feds grooming autistic teens on the internet to commit acts of terror was just a meme?
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>>2409009
Yes.
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>>2409009
cringey teen gets radicalized by discord memes of anime girls saying nigger
>this is because of trannies
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>>2409014
>>this is because of trannies
Yes.
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>>2408997
Well, so far score is 1:1 for mass hooting between TFR and TNO and I have no doubt more reatrdation will continue
Events to watch out for
>Someone Russian will commit a warcrime with Omsk patch
>former TNO dev murder-suicides due to 41%
>Gunther and/or Grisha stumble into power and cause a major international accident
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>>2408795
Germany wasn't treated fair but it was treated much better that it deserved. Germany at the bare minimum shares responsibility for the war, as instead of reining in their weaker ally they tacitly supported the Austrian high command which was itching for a war and waving away all offered concessions from Serbia. And Belgium can't be excused, no matter how important to German offensive plans it was. Also, Lenin.
>utter destruction of the German Empire and her allies
Pic is what utter destruction of an empire looks like. Austrians got off light because Hungarian part of the empire was what had most of the ethnic minorities. Ottoman empire was also dissolved but Turks pulled of a miracle of the century and managed to get away with most of the bullshit they did.
>you can not excuse the absolutely imbecilic decisions made at Versailles by looking at Brest-Litovsk and saying "but the Germans"
Yes you can. Brest-Litovsk was meant to utterly ruin Russia as a country, both economically and militarily. Were that not so harsh, Versailles would have certainly been much lighter. For reparations, as of 1918 it could have only been reasonably expected that Germany and Ottomans were going to be in any position to pay since AH was falling apart at the seems and Bulgaria was just a small Balkan country. Then Turks did their thing, negotiated from a position of strength and the payments could only fall on Germany.
>Lloyd and Wilson
Wilson in particular was an insufferable holier then thou retard. He wouldn't be grandstanding if his country was the battlefield for the Western Front, turned into a free for all anarchy, lost 50% of it's male population or got Cadorna inflicted upon itself. They could rain in Serbia, Greece and other smaller nations and organizations, but France was looking for vengeance and no amount of moral grand standing was going to shift the sentiment there.
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>>2409019
>Some French autist starts larping as Lafayette IRL
It was inevitable...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQs-8F7Kvo4
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>>2408997
>femboy virgins go for low level attacks with low kill count that ultimately do more harm than good

>tomboy chads target government officials and strike fear into political opponents across the nation
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>>2409023
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>>2409001
>>2409006
The most common cheevo has been achieved by 20.1% of users. This is far below most other games and really comes down to the conditions tied to getting cheevos. The vast majrority of people who play Ironman without any mods want to get cheevos but most players don't care about them.
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>>2408997
>Gay manifesto has a section where it's just 'IT'S DA JOOOS' over and over again
>Proceeded to shoot up a mosque instead of a synagogue
I'm calling fed-op.
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>>2409015
Shooter has a whole section like this
>It was the trannies (the jews of gender) and the feds who are all also trannies
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>>2408997
I would have pinned this profile as a glownigger. I simply could not believe that CunnyHitleriteRapist88 with a black sun, swastikas and a random character as the avatar could be 100% non-ironic.
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>>2408997
Otto von Biscuit did this.
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Any superevent that goes harder than this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDRhcnOaOvo
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>>2409034
>Pic
We need Africa content NOW.
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>>2409038
That is the teaser for Sahel War update. Guy dressed as a tomato is Traore.
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>>2409034
There's a section in the manifesto where he complains that normies made Ongezellig bad. It's one of the biggest sections lol
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>>2409023
The Serbs had terror groups which were actively funded by Russia. The Russians could have simply dropped their scheming of literally financing terror groups in Eastern Europe.
It was understandable why Austria chimped out. Despite them acting like the literal devil, I don't blame the Anglos for joining WW1.
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>>2409025
>Some French autist starts larping as Lafayette IRL

I am strongly against any kind of political violence. It is important to remember that griefing gets you banned from the server. So if you grief, might as well go for the admins. However we should all cooperate and build a friendly and cooperative community on our minecraft server where griefing is not tolerated.
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>>2409043
>Ongezellig
Did that get gayer, or did they ruin it?
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>>2409019
I'm pretty sure we've had Omsk references in Donbass. It'd be based and funny.

>>2409038
Yes.
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>>2409023
>Germany at the bare minimum shares responsibility for the war
Not according to the Treaty of Versailles which is the point we are arguing, that document denotes Berlin as entirely to blame.
>instead of reining in their weaker ally they tacitly supported the Austrian high command which was itching for a war and waving away all offered concessions from Serbia
All of Europe either tacitly or directly supported the Habsburgs after the assassination, support only dried up after their foreign office dithered on the proper response. The Kaiser himself said they had waited too long for a war and concerning Serbia's response - "A great moral victory for Vienna; but with it, every reason for war is removed.". You should also remember that this is the 1914 German-Austria relationship and not that of the late war where the OHL more or less ordered around the AOK, Germany had no real authority to "rein in" Vienna any more then Moscow or London did. You could state that the Germans could have threatened to break their alliance but why would they have done that? You cannot assess these situations with hindsight if you are going to pass moral judgements.
>Austrians got off light because Hungarian part of the empire was what had most of the ethnic minorities
That is wholly reductive, the Austrians did not get off light as the very land you say the Hungarians lost was part of the same state as the Austrians themselves. Austria-Hungary's dissolution should not be seen through the lenses of that regions modern settled borders, an irredentist would not care that the 60% of land they lost was not primarily Austrian. Hungary by itself is an almost perfect example of how short sighted the victorious Entente was.
>Yes you can.
No, you can't. Either your foreign policy is grounded in pragmatic morals or it isn't, allowing emotional whiplash to dictate terms is exactly the kind of nonsense that led to the stupid complete blame cause.
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>>2409089
>Brest-Litovsk was meant to utterly ruin Russia as a country, both economically and militarily.
And it was just as disgusting as what was done to Germany, which was likewise ruined both economically and militarily.
>Reparations
A significantly easier pill to swallow then extensive territorial loss and abject admonishment by the international community after suffering a horrifying famine and defeat in a war.
>Wilson in particular was an insufferable holier then thou retard.
Hardly relevant when that particular saviour complex arguably would have avoided the Second World War.
>He wouldn't be grandstanding if his country was the battlefield for the Western Front, turned into a free for all anarchy, lost 50% of it's male population or got Cadorna inflicted upon itself.
And how did that vengeance end? With a German ensign flying over Paris atop the Eiffel Tower twenty years later. I understand the maximalist demands made by the French but they were clearly a mistake compared to Lloyd George and Wilson's ideal peace. I understand this may seem to contradict my earlier statement about hindsight and judgement but understand that the French demands were seen as unreasonable even at the time and many knew this would cause a second outburst in fighting between Germany and France later down the line. This is not hindsight at work but a direct and contemporary criticism of Paris' intent.
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>>2409090
>Lloyd George
GEORGE FLOYD XDDD
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>>2408997
>the astolfo rises
The niggers are gonna get murdered by the true wigger crackies on prison, years from now.
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>>2409090
>image
Damn, that one was a half-breed.
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>>2409094
He would have laughed at that
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>>2409090
>I understand the maximalist demands made by the French but they were clearly a mistake compared to Lloyd George and Wilson's ideal peace.
The german reparations were cut to a fraction of what they were along with them being given all the land they could have hoped for and they still had a chimpout that killed tens of millions of whites.
Total Teutonigger Death was the only proper solution.
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>>2409096
>He doesn't know
Xey acked, they're getting molested by true wigger crackheads in Hell right now.
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>>2409033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuI3aRvSAw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxefvfd_Mo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE7bI9us6i4
Rest In Peace chinateam.
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>>2409100
That is a completely different argument, dealing with Hitler's Germany in 1938 to dealing with Ebert's Weimar Republic in 1919 is impossible to compare. By the point of WW2 no amount of friendly neighbour diplomacy would have stopped the invasion of Poland.
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>>2408997
Can the guys at the FBI make the costume designs less goofy, this looks fairly embarrassing.
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>>2409103
Wrong
>>2409037
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>>2409103
I wish the Revanchist super event changed depending on the path China went down, the Chinese Empire has a unique one but it'd be nice if the others had unique super events as well.
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>>2409109
I'm not sure about the militarists and normal nationalists but the technocrats 100% should.
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>>2409106
What the fuck is that in the backseat of the car
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>>2409112
Not the 1984 ones but a "cool" cue could be added at the end.
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>>2409043
>>2409065
>'zellig
it's forced meme EPI troonslop. No one actually likes 'zellig. It's furfag shit.
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>>2409122
>it's fo-ACK
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>>2409100
>The german reparations were cut to a fraction of what they were
And it still took until 2010 to fully repay them. The Entente governments were niggers.
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>>2409139
>were
Still are.
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>>2409105
People have to look at the conditions that enabled Hitler to rise.
The Germans had a famine, the economy was completely wrecked, extreme national debt, millions of young men were dead, wounded or shell shocked, there was an outright civil war in Germany, the country was hit the hardest globally by the 1920s financial crisis and the government was a complete meme that got nothing done.
Most people don't realize just how terrible the conditions were. We don't even learn in school that we got blockaded after the war was over or that we had a civil war in 1918.
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>>2409142
>Most people don't realize just how terrible the conditions were.
Absolutely, the years following the war rivals the conflict itself in terms of sheer human suffering. From the Spanish Flu to the economic devastation to direct mortality the world was apocalyptic, there is no surprise Communism, Fascism, Nazism and all ideologies promising a new world were so quick to rise amongst humanity. The Russian Civil War alone is a tragedy comparable to the First World War when you look at the numbers of avoidable dead.
>We don't even learn in school that we got blockaded after the war was over or that we had a civil war in 1918.
I can not even imagine how horrid the lessons are in regard to treating your people's history, I'm British and it's atrocious here and we won the wars. I consider the First World War and it's aftermath to be the greatest crime in human history, a collective act of suicide by the greatest civilisations in the world. Leading from this, I think Europeans have a certain unique enrapturement with alternate history - a tie to a world that no longer exists and a dream of one that could have been. A distinct sense that it did not have to be this way.
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>>2409152
WW1 was truly the greatest disaster. While there were periods afterwards in Western countries where life was good, everything terrible that we deal with nowadays can pretty much be attributed to WW1 in one way or another.
Granted the German government also had plans that would have completely fucked over France and Britain, the best outcome is the war never firing in the first place. I hope everything is going well for you nigger because your government is truly dystopian.

All this makes you think how different everything would have been not just if it never happened but what if it happened years earlier or later. WW1 started at the most unfortunate time when it came to weapons technology which led to all the stalemates. Tanks and air support weren't developed enough to deal with entrenched machine gun positions. Kind of like how drones and modern reconnaissance are currently fucking over both Ukraine and Russia since neither side has the air superiority or technology to mitigate the impact of drones enough.
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>tno releases dedicated iberian update (only real old world fix in forever)
>iberian wars still critically bugged and never ever ends
fucking sloppa holy shit. what's the point of all the stupid minigames if all they mean is that i have to scour the files to find the console commands to fix their garbage? the conflict doesn't even have anything that couldn't be accomplished with vanilla mechanics.
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>>2409230
The funny thing is that the man-hours they sunk into Iberia will be irrelevant because they'll no doubt remove it once DV deletes its only remaining reason to exist (Germany seizing the Portuguese colonial empire)
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>>2409230
It released early because Mango was spooked over the race to 600k. While it's likely bullshit, I'll still believe it because it's funny.

Joking aside what gets me about the update is that Iberia shouldn't even exist in nuTNO. Not saying I want it gone, but it makes no sense since their reworks removed all reasons for it to exist. No more Atlantropa, Germany not grabbing Portugal's colonies, etc. It's probably their best update since Guangdong (wow beat out Antarctica and Mexico) but it's still so marred in issues and feels like it doesn't belong any more.
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>>2404267
>>2404367
>>2404867
>>2405167
>>2405267
>>2406367
>>2406467
>>2406567
>>2407667
>>2408767

SIX SEVEN
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>>2409232
I'd say 50-50. There's a chance it remains just like Burgundy and other things they want to delete because so many supposedly moving parts are stuck, or you'll eventually see Spain and Portugal split and skeletonized. They said they'd have to rework several minigames over DV but that it was no big deal and that they could just edit some names around. Yeah right.
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>>2409233
>>2409232
>>2409230
>obsessed with TNOhate that you keep seething about it despite it being content that's going to be revamped once DV releases
I literally do not understand what the TNOhater thinks when he makes a post. Why does he care so much about content that will be removed and is outdated? DV is coming, and it will provide years of sandbox that will allow far more development than what currently exists, which hampers the development team and prevents more narratives from emerging. TNOhaters just cling to the past. They love TFR and the multipolar world and hate TNO and the democratic values it encourages.
Why?
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Speaking of, someone in /tno/ discovered that the Germany rework has been scaled down to a demo to be released alongside America and that it'll have as much writing as various skeletons without major interactions. Five years and counting well spent.
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>>2409238
Why do you make TFR the good guys in every meme?
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>>2409239
/TNO/ is filled with the craziest schizos ever imagined. Don't trust them.
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>>2409238
>Shills for TNO
>A mod where the Allies lose, never take Normandy and Britain eventually falls
The left can't meme.
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>>2409241
https://files.catbox.moe/gm6dv2.pdf
You can read the document yourself. Tons of these released after they purged the writing lead.
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>>2409238
>the content is and outdated and irrelevant before the patch is even uploaded therefore it's ok that it doesn't even work
wow, you sure changed my mind, total tno victory such a peak of mod content
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Why should I pick light tanks over MBTs?
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>>2409246
Faster, cheaper. Good as a way to provide some hardness to otherwise soft divisions and they're better at keeping up with faster mobile infantry. It's just a decent unit. MBTs are obviously way better for punching through enemy forces, but the light tank is good in various support roles in particular.
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>>2409248
Thanks nigger.
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>>2409250
Yw KKKraKKKa.
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>TFRfanatics obsess about subscriber numbers, despite the fact that TNO still appears before TFR when you search the steam workshop and TNO has more unique visitors by magnitudes more
>TFRfanatics commit acts of TNOhate every day over perceived faults in TNO's development, despite TFR's 1.1 delays being approximately roughly the same
>TFRfanatics seek to ban all positive discussion of TNO
There literally is no convincing the TFRcrowd about TNO. It is remarkable how there can be such delusion about a mod, but here we are. The amount of TNOhate committed in these threads is ridiculous.
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Steam "relevance" algorithm PROVES that TNO is dead.
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>>2409273
TNO lost.
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>>2409277
Panzerites we're so fucking back.
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Open HOI4 Steam Workshop
Sort by Most Popular All Time.
You will scroll past TFR, TNORA, TNO Requiem, Plankton's New Order before finding TNO.
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>>2402201
>Burt went /fit/ IRL.
Can I get pics of this? I apparently suck at google cause I can't find shit
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>>2409281
They're on his Twitter. Should be "NSMcommander". He looks like a middle aged man on roids now and he's 100% too boomercoded to know how to shoop it.
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>>2409280
Now try most subscribed. Thanks.
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>>2409283
Only major mod there that's worth a damn is KR. Other than that it's mostly utilities and relics like MD. TNO still loses btw.
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>>2409283
>Sorts by subs
I can't wait for OWB to overtake TNO.
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>>2409288
I literally scoffed at your response. Demonizing me for sorting by most subscribed when you "people" obsess over subscriber numbers the most? You're the ones who brought subscribers into the equation, now you backtrack when it makes you fall flat on your face.
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will this thread ever recover from these discordian catfights
it was funny the first time but i've nowhere to talk about mods now
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>>2409293
First ai slop to actually look good
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>>2409293
TFR has overtaken it in subscriber numbers though!
They wonned bigly.
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>>2409238
You've gotta be trolling at this point if you can't see your argument is self-defeating. Yeah, the entire update is going to be reworked out of existence and this is somehow a good thing? Are you fucking insane? Coders, artists and writers all wasted their time on the Iberia update for it to inevitably be reworked away. TNO devs are masochists or some shit.
Also framing TFR as the Nazis while shilling a Nazi victory mod where the leads are giving Germany plot armor so nobody can actually defeat it is certainly a thing.
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>>2409288
I'll make a graph of both to give a guess when they'll overtake them
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>>2409294
It is simple. When TNOhaters stop obsessing over TNO, then I will stop the defense of TNO. The problem is they literally cannot help themselves. They must obsessively hate TNO. It wasn't considered a problem until someone stood up to them. Only then is it "tiresome." No.
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>>2409301
kill yourself unemployed autistic
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>>2409301
People don't hate TNO, though. They hate the people who are both incompetent and also hollowing the mod out and wearing it as a skinsuit. Nobody would care if the nudevs were competent and could get their reworks out in a timely manner, but you've got the worst of both worlds: the reworks are shit, retarded plot armor for Germany and libwank in America, and not even the fun kind where you can regime change Germany or Japan, and they're also constantly delayed because the leads felt the need to rework their reworks, like when Mango replaced Romney with a Chinese guy (an Asian president in a timeline while the US is in a cold war with an ascendant Japan, because this makes sense, like having a Russian president during the OTL cold war) because of his butthurt over Drumpfler winning the election in 2024. Or made Wallace and Goldwater able to nuke Haiti(???)
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I love TNO!
I want to play 12 years of Nixon NOW!
NIXONREICH FOREVER! 8M HAITANS DEAD.
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>>2409298
I knew a TNO dev once. He said he didn't mind his tag being reworked from scratch because now he had something new to do. Really seemed like he was just doing shit for the sake of having something to do.

>>2409306
In short: people like TNO but hate nuTNO post-hijack.
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>>2409306
>because of his butthurt over Drumpfler winning the election in 2024
Is that actually the reason?
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>>2409307
Only good shit about the US rework.
>It's an attempt to blackwash
THE LEFT CAN'T MEME
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>>2409309
Yeah, the lead dev is a major Democrat activist and a long term Kamalist with serious TDS.
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>>2409309
He never outright stated this, but it's fairly obvious that Romney was removed because he wasn't evil enough and Mango wanted something shittier, or at least that's what some leaks from back then claimed. It was hot on the heels of Trump winning the elections and as a result, Mango wanted the Republicans to be more evil.
You can literally see him saying that Fong's cabinet is EVIL in this collage of screencaps lmao
Also see him calling Romney 'romnoid' for some reason.
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>>2409314
Nevermind, he did practically state it.
>Least bad/kinda wholesome albeit boring Republican
>"Didn't fit my narrative"
He really was still butthurt about the election and fucked up his own work because of it.
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>>2409314
>>2409315
now bring up QPQ's unhinged messages or tweets
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>>2409314
There's also shit like him dissing Republicans in the UI toozers way back. Which, fine, I don't like them much either but if you can't separate your political beliefs from your art then the quality will suffer. Just do what TFR does and let everyone speak with their own voice and LARP their own LARP. There are a few tags like that in TNO like Amur and they're pretty good.
>It's being reworked
NOOOOOOO
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>>2409315
>Mod delayed because Trump won bigly
>Devs literally mindraped by the W
THAT'S MY PRESIDENT
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>>2409318
You mean this certified hood classic?
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>>2409318
Him starting a war with KR over Huey Long was funny too. Of all the fucking people in the world, why Huey Long?

>>2409322
>TRD
>RethugliKKKan
Not butthurt about the elections.
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>>2409314
>>2409315
XD
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>>2409323
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>>2409323
hitler is still alive 1960...

also, axing unique alt-hist (npp) features so you can fit more real-life seethe about the other party? less go new golden age of modding
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>>2409325
Ah, this classic.
An anon systematically dismantled his points the first time it was posted.
>semi-literate
Huey Long completed a three-year law course at Tulane University in a single year and passed the Louisiana bar exam.
>dog fucker
he made that up, completely
>sieg heel goosestepping
Long publicly ridiculed the European dictators, he wanted nothing to do with them.
>steal as much as he could physically carry
He didn't steal from treasury. He made a law where state employees were required to donate a part of their salaries to fund his political campaigns.
>impoverishing the state for vanity projects
He taxed the shit out of Standard Oil to build
1. thousands of miles of roads and over 100 bridges
2. a charity hospital system for the poor
3. free textbooks for everyone, even black people.
4. an expansion for the state university
>making promises he had no intention of fulfilling
He did fulfill his promises to the poor, that's why he was popular.
>regular invocations of martial law
Very exaggerated claim. It's a valid criticism, but he didn't use it regularly.
>a vocal and enthusiastic white supremacist
Laughably dishonest. Unlike his opponents, he avoided racebaiting. His programs helped both whites and blacks.
If he was an actual white supremacist, he would have allied with the klan, as many southern politicians did. Instead the klan actually campaigned against him.
Dude actually thinks that Huey being a natpop in KR isn't massive character assassination.
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>>2409328
Do you have any of the things that got him banned from EaW and made them cut all ties to TNO? I doubt it since I bet a lot of it was just in DMs to EaW devs he was harassing but still.

>>2409330
He hates the Republicans so much that he just can't see them working together ig. Total dogshit move. Having the centrists on one side and everyone that hates them on the other is a fun setup and brings some much-needed new energy to standard politics in America. I also liked that it brought in some strategy into the mix too since a R-D win with progressives taking a Congressional seat might be bad for you if you're playing as Wallace. Now it's just party lines shit.
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>>2409333
Man you really saved all the receipts of this bastard, didn't you?
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Mango losing the race to 600K was a MAGA W.
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>>2409319
>>2409320
>>2409323
>>2409325
>>2409328
>what is Liberal Derangement Syndrome
See, we can do it too. Ridiculous theorizing. Anytime there's a theory about TFR that makes it look negative, most of the TFRfags and TNOhaters in this thread jump in and attack it as "irrational" and "illogical." But when there's ridiculous theories that make TNO look bad, that exact same crowd jump up and nod their little heads eagerly and guffaw and jeer, uncaring of how illogical it is. The hypocrisy is deafening.
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>>2409342
Nigga because your theories that make TFR look bad are based around people who the devs immediately cut out like cancer i.e. otto von biscuit for unironically suggesting interviewing atomwaffen or the guy who put pedo shit in the flavor submod
Meanwhile, Mango and QPQ are still leads on TNO.
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>>2409345
That is to say, you have no real criticisms of TFR that aren't hypocritical, like complaining about how long 1.1 is taking (HALF A DECADE OF REWORKS, STILL NO YIPPIE) or literally just vibes (whining about muh multipolarism and democratic values or whatever)
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>>2409342
TFR let's everyone LARP. You can be a hardcore Bernout, Kamalist, ride with Biden, go commie, go NatSoc, and everyone gets their place in the sun. There is no bias, and the mod let's you put 2+2 together that Atomwaffen is evil. Meanwhile we have TNO's leads being literal activists that sabotage their own mod over political butthurt. Gee, I wonder which will work out better?
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>>2409349
But you see, it's bad because you can play as Russia and China.
TNO's devs being retarded democratic party activists is a feature, not a problem, to this guy. He's probably elated that TNO's next update will alledgedly contain US content up to 1977 while Germany is reduced to a demo.
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>>2409354
>Germany reduced to a demo
>After 5 years
Beyond parody.
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>>2409323
Basically anyone who had a slightly more aggressive cabinet than JFK during the cuban missile crisis would have led to billions dying in ww3 so this is fairly accurate.
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>>2409333
Huey is the literal definition of the authdem slot and they still fumbled it.
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>>2409358
Okay QPQuck.
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>>2408997
Ho was his profile even found? Did he link it in his manifesto?
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i don't care about tno or tfr
is great war redux good?
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>>2409364
After the bay of pigs failed nixon and his cabinet would have definitely responded militarily instead of just intensifying the blockade. The military response would also be completely fucked as the CIA thought that Cuba had only 2 tactical nukes that would be used on any invading force when in reality they had about a hundred that were aimed at the US mainland.
I'm not anti nixon as he was the last president who wasn't a kike lover, it's just that basically anyone more hardline than JFK would have ended the world in that situation.
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>>2409393
It's basically r56 level of quality/vibes except for germany which has a bit more going on with no proper althis paths.
So good but basic.
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>>2409393
Better than Likgas's mod.
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>>2409393
>steals your city
>will make fun of you for wanting it back
This is why we need another partition of Poland, they are hypocritical cunts jealous of Russians and Germans.
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>>2409333
Well, you know, he was against the corporate interests, so he is clearly evil natpop.
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>>2409432
It's Lithuania, who gives a shit.
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>>2409432
Poland should be destroyed. Unrelated.
t. German

>>2409441
No one that matters.
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>>2403901
Shame none of the BLA paths will have unique post 2ACW content on release, we must free African brothas and sistas from neo-colonialism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHwGnGrm_k
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>>2409501
As long as we get a kkkrackkker reservation puppet then I'm fine with them pushing post war content to a later update
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>>2409501
>Sunset Invasion of Europe but it's real niggaz storming the beaches and zergrushing the beaches of the Spain and eastern Siberia
God that'd be such a fun way to spice up 2EW.
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>>2409349
In reality, the only real options are pro-multipolar, alt-right options because the pro-democratic options are all inferior and not as well developed. The most well-developed options in TFR for democratic, western nations revolve around meme anti-western conspiracy theories that push people toward anti-globalist, regional mentality that the multipolar forces around the world latch onto and push and encourage. The democratic ideals enforced by TNO are far more interesting and make for more interesting gameplay than "lel create chaos and sow discord around the world!" What do you think sounds more interesting, building the world up through a democratic and free organization of nations, or bringing the world down into chaos and death? If you think the latter, then it's no wonder you suppose the multipolar world.
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>>2409604
that image goes hard.
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>>2409604
Is this a secret toozer for TFR's Italy content? Is the AI slopper actually an elaborate ARG?
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>>2409618
Yes
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>>2409604
>nations revolve around meme anti-western conspiracy theories that push people toward anti-globalist, regional mentality
Not my problem that the western liberalism is fundamentally globalist. Also mainstream globalist liberalism is opposed by everyone.
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>>2409526
>2EW
GAW too. Total China and Z domination. Revenge for Johnny.
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>>2409612
>>2409618
>>2409621
Fascism isn't "cool." It's a totalitarian system that threatens the western democratic world order that has propped up the entire human civilization since Plato.
>Athens and Sparta
>Founding Fathers and George III
>France and Germany
>United States and China
>TNO and TFR
There literally is no better purpose in one's life than to support democratic values of the West, and support the ideals encapsulated and forwarded by TNO.
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>>2409628
It's opposed only by those who don't understand how the world works.
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>>2409632
>Athens and Sparta
Athens were Russia, they were literally an OLIGARCHIC democracy were only tiny minority could actually vote
Your point?
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>>2409639
His other examples make little sense either. Britain was hardly the worst monarchy by any stretch of the imagination and the people in the colonies weren't exactly serfs, France and Germany fall in similar places throughout most of their rivalries and both the US and China are survaillence states but the Chinese one has a single party and the American one is a lobby-run duocracy that's invaded half the globe. All of these run through various shades of gray and that's a big problem when you're a midwit trying to do complete black and white scenarios.
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>>2409637
This would work better if it was the nuDev TNO logos blasting the OG TNO logo with references to old stuff like Tabby etc being yeeted. Solid concept and catchphrase though, 7/10, could use some workshopping.
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>>2409639
Better than the alternative.
>>2409645
You don't know much about George III if you think he was anything but a tyrant. And, your comment about America invading half the globe shows your inherent bias; no wonder you support TFR.
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>>2409645
>France and Germany
This one is probably closest to what he was attmepting to convey, because France was ultra democratic, where people would often rise up and the government actually fall due to it.
While Imperial Germany was a ver ylimited authoritarian democracy, centralized under Prussia, with Junker strenglehold on politics and economy and military interference which only got worse as WWI progressed.
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>>2409651
>>Better than the alternative.
>exclusive oligarchic control and disenfranchisement of women, non-citizens and young males and the practice of slavery is actually a good thing
This is why your liberal world order is collapsing. Because you literally will support any evil just to defeat your opposition.
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>>2409651
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Invasions_by_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_regime_change
OK neocon.
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this nigga is using more electricity than a fucking washing machine to generate these pictures
why is a liberal pro-AI
you people are supposed to hate AI because it destroys the planet and shit
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>>2409651
>And, your comment about America invading half the globe shows your inherent bias; no wonder you support TFR.
>>2409661
OK neocon.
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I am still surprised nobody made an actual mod based on his ideas, now that I post this
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>>2409621
Save us from this Samsaric existance, oh Trumpisattva!
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>>2409664
AI is the single most important invention developed since the internet and is increasing productivity of the human species at an exponential rate. We're entering a glorious new era, which is why we need to remain vigilant against authoritarianism and its tools of propaganda, such as TFR.
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>>2409666
The digits on that one aren't a coincidence when WhatIfAltHist is involved.
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>>2409673
>increasing productivity of the human species at an exponential rate
[Citation Needed]
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>>2409673
>AI is the single most important invention developed since the internet and is increasing productivity of the human species at an exponential rate. We're entering a glorious new era, which is why we need to remain vigilant against authoritarianism and its tools
Alexander Karp is that you? Why are you seething about TFR?
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any fellow trans tfr players here?
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>>2409689
>/uhg/poster's hands wrote this post
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>>2409689
TFRetards, everyone.
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>>2409695
you make it so obvious its you czar
otto von biscuit VVON
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>>2409673
Good movie
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>>2409698
do you think glorifying a pedophile is going to make me mad
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>>2409698
>>2409701
No one gives a shit about Otto, be less obvious next time you troll. He's been exiled from the community for ages ago.
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So, about them HoI4 mods.
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>>2409706
What's HoI4?
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>>2409333
I think you’re misunderstanding what “NatPop” means in the mod. NatPop isn’t Nazism, it’s just hyper radical populism. NatPop isn’t specific to race. Boris Savinkov has been the NatPop leader for Russia for forever and it’s not like he’s an outspoken white nationalist (he’s not even a Russian ethnopurist). Just like with Fascist esque ideologies irl (Mussolini wasn’t not an ethnopurist either), it’s more of a big tent of populist adjacent ideologies. To say, then, that Huey Long shouldn’t be under the umbrella term of National Populism is to say that Hitler shouldn’t be under the umbrella term for Fascism (which, of course, some would argue should be true. If you’d agree with that premise, then I concede). If you actually play the mod too, Huey doesn’t actually become a dictator anyway (although he doesn’t have term limits, term limits weren’t a thing at the time anyway) but in itself isn’t contrary to National Populist thinking (the two just correlate).
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>>2409706
i like
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2668048070
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>CTRL+F
>multipolar
>14 results
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I CAN'T RELEASE
NOTHING EVER RELEASES
IT'S TNOVER
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>>2409812
people should call thirdworldists what they are
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>>2409829
Chuds aren't thirdworldists thougheveralbeit. At least they aren't by default.
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>>2409840
they are useful idiots for them
western rightoids are unknowingly or sometimes willingly pushing for cultural decolonization
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>>2409855
>Not supporting neoliberal globalism makes you a thirdworldist
What kind of retarded-ass psy-op is this? Go back to /pol/ or /k/ instead of shitting up this place.
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>thirdworldist
I think I've seen this word only used by faux 'nationalists' who in reality shill for israel exclusively
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>>2409829
>>2409855
Z
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>>2409813
That's literally the worst part about TFR. It has been in development for approximately two years at this point, and it has had one major release, its initial release. Yes, there have been touchups with France, China, Russia, and a few other things, but those are comparable to Guangdong, Ukraine/Britain, Antarctica, Mexico, South America, etc., in TNO. People fail to understand that it takes time and effort to development good content. TFR has pushed out terrible content at a quicker pace, but it still takes time. I get it, though. TNOhaters, however, don't seem to get it with TNO.
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TNO THIS TNO THAT TNO THIRD WORLD TNO MULTIPOLAR TNO FASCISM TNO DEMOCRACY IS BADASS TNO COLONIZATION TNO NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS
No seriously can you just shut the fuck up?
Don't you get tired of thinking, writing, posting this fucking SLOP every fucking day of your life?
You used to do this every weekend now you do it every fucking day of the week.

What
the
fuck
does
this
accomplish
?
Its just retarded. None of it has any coherence whatsoever. Its not funny. Its not interesting. Its not nuanced.
Its just low effort SPAMSLOP.

I never see you post this shit in /tno/ (your containment thread) so this means you are dedicated to shitting this thread up every day. Just go. Populate your containment thread then it wont be slow anymore.
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>>2409870
neoliberal globalism is a tool of western dominance
everything else seeks it's destruction for the benefit of the third world
feel free to crawl back to your discord if you want a hugbox
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>>2409965
/TNO/ is a troll thread filled with utter TNOhate; it's not a containment thread, because as you can clearly see by CTRL+F "TNO" in this very thread and scrolling through the posts, TNOhate is everywhere here, too. If there was no TNOhate and all TNOhate was contained there, then I wouldn't need to post here. But, to counter the TNOhate here, I must post here, where there at least is some resistance against the TNOseethers.
>>2409969
Not to mention that the third world would 100% create its own dark version of globalism that would seek to funnel all resources into China/Russia and benefit them, as seen with policies such as the Belt and Road Initiative, etc.
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>>2409971
Want to talk about your mod in a positive light? Go to your containment thread.
>>>/vst/tno/
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>>2409969
Neoliberal Globalism is literally turning us into the 3rd world.
We will eventually end up in a dystopia where we will get a mix of cyberpunk but without the cool cybernetics and feudalism without the lords having enough honor to die with you in battle.
Neoliberal Globalism seeks to strip us of everything and turn us into the perfect consumers that do nothing but work and consume.
Worker's rights are being abolished, taxes increase yet go nowhere that actually benefits you, owning gets slowly replaced by renting, cost of living continues to increase.
It is one of the most dehumanizing ideologies to exist. Complete annihilation of everything that makes us human because in the eyes of the people leading this ideology, we are nothing more than exchangeable economic units whose only use is pumping the GDP for an elite of politicians, CEOs, bankers and shareholders.
Neoliberal Globalism is truly evil.
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>REQUEST FOR TFR LEAKCHADS
Was the ACW starting map altered at all? Were any warlords cut or added? Screenshots of each applicable region/country information tab would be appreciated.
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>>2409969
>neoliberal globalism is a tool of western dominance
>everything else seeks it's destruction for the benefit of the third world
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>>2409982
In the history of human civilization, worker's rights have increased, not decreased. Taxes are important because they fund government initiatives that help everyone. Owning is overrated and a meme; the cost analysis if you crunch the numbers is that renting is better, and renting offers flexibility of moving whenever/wherever you want almost any time you want; salaries increase as cost of living increases. The "perfect" world of 1960s also sought to create in its citizens consumers who worked and consumed. Working and consuming helps generate local and national incomes. Only America has the sheer population and scale of a massive population that has high incomes and that can consume to great degree, and it drives the world economy as a result, benefitting the U.S. more than any other nation.
Globalism benefits the United States along with everyone else. This is not a zero-sum game. There can be multiple winners: the human species.
Your advocacy of anti-globalism is truly evil and seeks to destroy progress.
>>2409984
Unfortunately, TFRfags don't believe in leaking for TFR; they think leaks are fine and dandy for all, especially TNO, except their own tribe. It is sad.
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>>2409990
I don't understand why you keep claiming that there have been no leaks when there are leaks in this thread. Is this just you being salty because people are excited about the focus trees that were shown instead of shitting all over them like they do with the dumbass US reworks and its sixty shades of centrism? Ever stopped to think that it's because of the content?
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>>2409985
i wish i was a glowie so badly
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>>2409784
Nigga the SPD is more nationalistic than he was. If he was a northern politician the devs would have put him under either authdem or socdem.
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>>2409984
>Was the ACW starting map altered at all?
Not a leak, but based off the Texas teaser and a couple other minor teasers we know some new minor warlords have been added and others tweaked.
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>>2410009
>ATF Texas is gone
sad
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>>2409784
>it’s more of a big tent of populist adjacent ideologies
Not it's not lol. If anything they're less populist version of otl far-right because the leftists like mussolini and mosley were put into totalism while monarchists and other traditionalists are more prominent.
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>>2410012
Yeah that is a shame, that little blocked off 'State of Texas' part should be turned into the ATF.
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>>2410008
Now you've done it. Now you're going to get a tirade about the SPD-NSDAP pipeline.

>>2410009
A full list would be nice! It looks interesting and they seem to be changing these up in some good ways.

>>2410012
This, however, is not one of them. Maybe you could have it so that if Biden wins in a landslide they become a factor? Just a thought. Wouldn't change much but having another UoA or ACG contender in a region would make the elections matter slightly more even if they get whacked most of the time.
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>>2410019
Kind of unrelated but I hope you'll be able to actually campaign and win the election as patriot front/party of socialism and liberation (APLA's political wing).
I just think it would be a nice way of fully breaking off from the prewar stuff just being the feds with everyone else being an afterthought. The other factions are too minor to win an election so maybe they could just focus on building up support in their starting areas.
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>>2409984
Moors added near the coast of Georgia.
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>>2410028
This is bu-
>The national spirit icons
Kek, what the fuck?
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>>2410028
Apparently this group is a real thing and they think blacks wuz da real natives.
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>>2410028
We wuz colonizers n shee
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>>2410023
That's silly. It works in KR/KX because there's a lot more setup for the alternate parties to work, but outright winning as the PF, APLA or the like? That's a bit much. But if you want to go with a non-federal unifier you could have it work so that you enhance your starting position. Sure, AOF can't win the elections but getting a Free Stater into office in New Hampshire would give them a better starting position when the war for New England starts.
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>>2410023
Non feds are going to get their own pre 2ACW focus tree's which is nice, it'll probably only pop up after the election though and still if you only sided with Biden initially.
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>>2410016
>>2410028
Someone please post something like >>2410009 but for the other regions.
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>>2410042
>Side with Biden
>Wait forever
>5 speed
>Do nothing
How about make a focus tree that's about creating more instability and generally prepare the ground for non-feds?
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>>2410045
>>Do nothing
I make an effort to mask up my starting area and the starting areas of my potential alllies, but yeah other than that the pre-2ACW section if you intend to play as a non fed is rather dull since you throw on purpose to get the minor buff.
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>>2410043
Here's some other tags that got shared here in the past, didn't post the second one though and I've never seen it before. No idea where that guy got it from.
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>>2410053
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>>2409984
there were plenty of changes, western military command was removed
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>>2410054
Bad boy bad boys, watchu gon do? Watchu gon do when dey come for you?
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>>2410055
You sure? I think they just got rebranded to reinforce that they're AVG-allined.
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>>2410054
>>2410056
I hope they're playable.
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>>2410061
Doubt it'd happen anytime soon, but one of the cop tags being playable at some point would be fun even if it'd just end with you either being absorbed by one of the feds at the end of the 2ACW or becoming the new feds if Trump and Biden die.
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>>2410058
yeah they were rebranded
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>>2410065
>Commune of Flagstaff
>Rockies Revolutionary Front
>Nauvoo Legion
>New Frontier
Plz share their ideologies, also damn did they really cut the Mormons? If so that's honestly a bad change, Mormons forming their own insurgent group in a 2ACW scenario in that region is totally believable and makes for excellent potential future content. Hopefully they restore them in the future.
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>>2409990
>In the history of human civilization, worker's rights have increased, not decreased.
You are being intentionally dishonest or you are retarded.
I said they are being abolished. Worker's rights weren't even a concept in the distant past. Worker's rights are actively being abolished.

>Taxes are important because they fund government initiatives that help everyone.
Because money to 3rd world countries, state media that tells you to hate yourself and NGOs that make your life worse is totally in my interest.

>Owning is overrated and a meme; the cost analysis if you crunch the numbers is that renting is better
At this point I believe you are honestly baiting but I will reply anyway.

>salaries increase as cost of living increases
Not nearly in the same scale. Literally proven by facts and logic. https://www.usdebtclock.org/

>Working and consuming helps generate local and national incomes.
Again arguing againts a point I never made. The problem is everything except working and consuming getting killed in favor of more working and consuming.

>Globalism benefits the United States along with everyone else.
Yes I love it when companies offshore countless jobs abroad while simultaneously importing millions of 3rd worlders to drive the wages of the remaining jobs down.

>Your advocacy of anti-globalism is truly evil and seeks to destroy progress.
"no u" type argument. I hope you are a troll because you act like a genuine retard. You didn't make a single point why globalism is good outside of muh GDP and progress for the sake of progress. Your points sound like things WEF niggers say unironically.
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>>2410066
mormons are still there
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>>2410066
flagstaff is libertarian socialist, rockies is also libertarian socialist, nauvoo is conservative (they are the mormons) and new frontier is fascist
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Is the doctrine rework coming with 1.1?
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>>2410069
Are they? I don't see Brigham's Army.
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>>2410071
>nauvoo is conservative (they are the mormons)
Ah, well hopefully the full on theocracy they used to be is still in as a skeleton path the AI can go down.
>new frontier is fascist
Just plain ol classical fascists or is their sub-ideology something else?
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>>2410077
new frontier is ultranationalist
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>>2410053
The UFO makes it look like a meme.

>>2410054
Old.

>>2410056
>LAPD tag
Interesting.

>>2410058
Isn't he around now too? Maybe that's just another rebrand.

>>2410066
Mormons could be a fun separatist group for sure.

>>2410071
Please just make a simple map using screenshots of the leaders tab next to the map so that we know what you're talking about.
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>>2409995
>i wish i was a glowie so badly
https://www.cia.gov/careers/
Glowniggers would LOVE to work with you aisloppa.
Bad news is they would probably force you to post on /pol/ all day specifically /uhg/. But you can still visit /vst/ and read!
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>>2410087
here it is
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>>2410012
what are you calling "ATF Texas" you mean the Federal Command of Texas?
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>>2410091
Nah he'd be sent to shill up in /chug/ and try to get the Ztards and policies there to support gay pride globalism. /uhg/ is the CIA home turf so it's safe.
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>>2410096
https://thefireriseswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Federal_Command_of_Texas
Seems like it.
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>>2410091
That wasn't me. That was another intellectual who understands that working for the federal government is the highest honor one can achieve in life. Competent public service is as important as paying taxes and buying Western products: it protects Western democratic values.
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>>2410136
Z
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You know I tried Suzerain recently and it hit me. As much as it may be unrealistic or too easy to be able to just force a country and its entire government to swap ideologies like you can in a Paradox game, Suzerain has the opposite problem. The deep state and entrenched interests are realistic but it also makes it completely absurd if you then roleplay as anything but an establishment shill or mild reformer because almost everyone including your own cabinet should be against you and yet the story just hamfistedly forces them to go along with what you're doing. At the same time, actual radical change (as opposed to just espousing radical beliefs) is extremely difficult to enact without getting yourself killed. It's bizarre.
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>>2410156
i think it makes sense on short timescale
i haven't played dlc, but the main game has you playing for a single term
you either join the establishment and continue authoritarianism or transition to democracy
revolutionary change from the inside is impossible in such circumstances
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>>2410156
>>2410161
I don't really like the writing, for reasons regarding worldbuilding, but it would be interesting to see a dlc for a nation that is decisively Communist or Capitalist - a Galmland or even Cortanan and Arcasian perspective for instance.
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>>2406263
I'm sorry to say but kino
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>>2410238
Yep, this is the lead Dev's thinly veiled yes talking.
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>>2410243 (me)
>yes
I just realized after hitting update that was an autocorrect fuckup and I meant to type tds. Dev's got political brain rot is what I'm saying.
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>>2410265
>>2410243
The TNOhater (me)poster is probably the worst offender in mental gymnastics of TNOseething that I have seen in these threads. Literally every long-winded post I have seen of his lamenting anything related to newTNO development is overly lengthy and unnecessary. It literally is without a doubt the longest I have seen someone talk without saying anything, or going to extremes. If someone posts something that expresses interest in TNO, the TNOhater (me)poster jumps in with some insane and crazed TDS (TNO Derangement Syndrome) / LDS statement. It literally is bewildering the lengths you go to TNOhate and TNOseethe in every HOI4 Modding thread. It leaves one flabbergasted. Literally and genuinely mind-boggled.
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>>2410300
What the fuck are you even talking about?
What the fuck does that have to do with what you replied to?
Did your script break or something?
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>unite america as PF
>no heads of navy available
>have no ships
>no way to build ships
>no way to get navy experience
>literally impossible to build a navy because i cannot design any boats
>even with the rebuild the navy focus
thanks i guess the naval command can just chill or whatever
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>>2410319
Report it as a bug to the devs. Most likely this is a casualty of the lack of post-ACW content. If they don't fix it before or in 1.1 they're losers. It'd be fucking inexcusable of none of these tags had navies post-war by then.
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>>2409969
>neoliberal globalism is a tool of western dominance
When I go outside and see a sea of black people speaking incomprehensible African gibberish in what is supposed to be a European country, I remind myself of how they're totally being dominated by the neoliberal globalist system and I feel at peace with my own replacement.
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>>2410300
Are you okay? Did you have a stroke? Can you smell toast?
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>>2410334
Just taking the bus work these days is enough to make me think that James Mason is a moderate.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/oR07g9Ct41U
Grisha is collabing with this guy. Shame I can't watch it because I'm not Russian.
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>>2410380
Why cant you watch it? Youtube subtitles are a thing and they are generaly good for the sort of slop content you want to watch.
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>>2409969
>>2410334
Most of these would be very happy to return to their own countries, but politicians dont want that, they want a cheap labour force and use these reffugees as political tool to turn people against each other, it would be easy to send them back and give them resources, know-how, and capital to rebuild their countries there is nothing stopping that except greed. The Simpsons thing about lawyers also holds for politicians, without them we would live in a utopia.
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>>2410420
>Most of these would be very happy to return to their own countries
No they don't, they see free real estate and won't care about the locals they have to bully, beat and kill to get it. They know if they tried that in their own countries they'd start a civil war against whatever "the other tribe" is.
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>>2410427
Sucks to suck, French/Mutt boy, it is only your own fault as a result of your imperialism.
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>>2410334
There were fears by some that German settlers would never adapt to the customs of America and would forever stick to their language, not assimilating. That was disproved with time. So too will these immigrants. People are just interested in giving them a chance because of the color of their skin.
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>>2410440
Bullshit.
Mexicans have been encroaching into America for 250 years and they still refuse to speak English.
Why would subsaharan Africans bother learning Euro languages? They don't need to. They don't learn english in the US either.
>>2410431
Are you gloating because you are a shitskin? I doubt.
After hearing your voice you sound like some SEA or Chink hapa aspie retard. You don't sound black, brown or light brown.

Imagine being such a negrophile that you have to argue and exclaim it in a thread about HOI4 modding. We get it, you jerk off to nogs. Now hush up Tenda Spencer.
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>>2410485
>Mexicans have been encroaching into America for 250 years and they still refuse to speak English.
They do speak English. Tons and tons of Mexicans second or third generation latinos in the U.S. speak English. Most if not all do, in fact. It's difficult to permanently live in a society without speaking its language--not impossible for adults though--and it's so easy for children to pick up on languages.
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>>2410485
>tenda spencer
now that's a name I haven't heard in a while lol
I remember when ricecels were all the rage, nowadays they got superseded by jeetcels
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Cease with the political discussion and keep the thread on topic, to discuss mods such as the best playthroughs of TNO and how to min/max economies in TNO (no bothering to discuss min/max economies in TFR because of how rudimentary the economics system is).
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>>2410485
>Are you gloating because you are a shitskin? I doubt.
After hearing your voice you sound like some SEA or Chink hapa aspie retard. You don't sound black, brown or light brown.
You are a retard, because I am from Slovakia
>Imagine being such a negrophile
I literally want them to leave and be sent back to their country you moron. Give them resources, some funding and knowhow, and send them back. Everyone will be happier if they will live in their own countries.
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TFR could use the route guide like KX has.
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>>2410431
>Mass immigration and neoliberalism is a collective good, a rising tide lifts all
>Don't blame good foreigners for the consequences of some corporate greed
>Fuck you the dark horde is a biological weapon used to punish your ethnicity
The mask slipped awfully quickly. I do wonder who could be behind this post?
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>>2410542
>>Mass immigration and neoliberalism is a collective good, a rising tide lifts all
I am against neoliberalism, learn to read, I stated it right in that initial post
>>Most of these would be very happy to return to their own countries, but politicians dont want that, they want a cheap labour force and use these reffugees as political tool to turn people against each other, it would be easy to send them back and give them resources, know-how, and capital to rebuild their countries there is nothing stopping that except greed
Neoliberalism is literally just modern imperialism, trying to sustain their system by importing reffugees for cheap labour.
>Don't blame good foreigners
Yes, there are good refugees and bad refugees; this was always the case.
>consequences of some corporate greed
Literally stated that.
You really need to realise that 4chigger isnt some hivemind and that you might be talking to two different people.
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>>2410562
The fact that there were might be two or (gasp) even three(!) people that oppose his views is incomprehensible to him. It's very strange that he thinks that it's literally one poster who posts in opposition to some of his views. I haven't quite seen anything like it. It must be extreme mental illness.
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>>2410440
It was never about skin colour.
If race was literally just COLA O DEY SKEEEEEN nobody would be an unironic racist.
It just happens that darker skin seems to correlate with lower intelligence, and American blacks prove that the Flynn Effect can only go so far.
It's either genetics (which is more than just skin color) or behavior considering black people tend to act like fucking animals no matter where they are in the world. Thirteen do fiddy.
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>>2410573
>darker skin seems to correlate with lower intelligence
TFRplayers, everyone.
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>>2410584
Yes, it's in touch with observable and provable reality.
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>>2410584
You activated my trap card!
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I'm playing New York in KX. What path do I go, commie niggas or gangsta niggas?
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>>2410621
Real gangstas!
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>>2410621
all the paths are just wacky dogshit, you get 10 focuses per path
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>>2410633
>Hating fun
>Y don't the city state be having 8000 focuses about taxes
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>>2410640
>8 different paths
>none of them are fun
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>>2410606
>this whole post
Embarrassing. You're very unwell.
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>>2410642
At least one of them is a Christian WC, so it can't not be fun.
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>>2410647
Yes exactly unwell is what Mateusz the no life slovakian slop poster is.
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>>2410647
>all the people replying to me are actually one person
>*samefags*
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>>2410647
Mad that you got found out?
You admitted all of that info btw.
None of it was made up, only re-organized by a dedicated autist.
You are a lolcow.
Seethe.
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>>2410642
Sorry about your bad tastes.
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>>2410653
I don't samefag, actually. None of the (You)posts there is me pretending to samefag. He thinks I'm the Slovakianposter. I've already said I live in a timezone on the opposite end of the globe.
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>>2410606
lol, nice try, retard
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>>2410665
(you)
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>>2410668
You can clearly see I have posted screenshot from site, not archive. Are you really this desperate for validation?
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>>2410671
>Screenshot 2026-05-22 at 14-02-01 (0) _vst_ - Hearts of Iron IV _ HOI4 Modding - Video Games_Strategy - 4chan.png
What makes you think that is an archive picture?
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>>2410673
The fact that there are no options like in your picture
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>>2410672
Looks pretty cool!
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I hate niggers
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>>2410682
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>>2410677
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>>2410689
are you retarded?
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>>2410693
Are you? Why would the "archive" have more options than the active thread?
The "archive" doesnt look like that anyway.
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>>2410704
>completely misunderstands his point
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>>2410706
What is the point? and why are (You) samefagging to defend youself?
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>>2410708
His point is that you have different options than him, so your post showing a You button means nothing, because you're using something other than the main vanilla 4chan website.
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>>2410714
>His
My*
You're acting like its impossible to remove (You)s.
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>>2410672
He would literally be 14 years old in 1936 but somehow KX is still realistic according to Nicola.
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Is paxbritannica worth playing? I started out as Russia but got too bored and dropped before a war could start. Maybe I'm just bored with hoi4 but I don't have enough time to just stare at the map doing nothing for 1-2 hours
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>>2410718
>in 1936
The ACW doesn't start until much later.
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>>2410724
Britain and France are fun. The world is interesting (too bad they're reworking it and getting rid some of the interesting stuff they had for Brazil), and the mechs are fun. I would recommend playing France (if you want a Nazi Germany experience) or Britain (if you want a Britain+/Kaiserreich Germany experience).
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>>2410726
It ends by 42 and that does not look like a 20 year old in that portrait.
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>>2410718
This is very clearly post civil war tree, being a Burnham successor considering the subideology. Which would place it at least into the 40s, because that is were generally the civil war ends.
So he would be in his 20s by then.
Also it is weird that more mods dont do this for actual invasion of Japan. Considering it was actual american fear to invade the mainland Japan due to how strong of a resistance they would face.
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Here you guys go. >>2334032
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>>2410595
NTA but I don't know why some people think IQ is genetic when chinks and japs on average have higher IQ's in the modern day and yet got absolutely raped by europe/america due to whites starting the industrial revolution.
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>>2410741
LMAO are you still seething that people ignored your thread after half a year you dumb nigger?
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>>2410746
>Emperor tells you to stagnate
>You stagnate
I'm over simplifying a bit but there are a lot of reasons for it. It's like how high IQ autists throw their lives away.
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>>2410741
BASED anon
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>>2410741
We are never ever EVER using that thread faggot stop trying.
Kill yourself.
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>>2410741
king shit
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>he replied to himself twice
>instantly after each message making fun of him
Imagine being this fucking mad. Keep seething you gay nigger.
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When the admins dont want to stop the samefaggers there is no point in not samefagging.
From now on I'm going to post 2+ posts so that I'm proven right whenever I mean to post one.
Fight fire with fire.
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>>2410775
Sounds like a good idea.
Yeah basically this there isnt a point in trying to argue just psyop the thread because admins don't care when the schizos shit up the thread.
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>>2410775
There might genuinely be like 1 or 2 jannies for the entirety of vst.
I think that because a few months ago the actual cobble was spamming pedoshit and it took several hours for a janny to ban him despite everyone reporting it.
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>2410741
fuck off

>>2407786
>>2408010
More from the bokoenbunker
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>>2410781
Hah, he's scared.
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>>2410780
This thread is especially lower priority for some reason.
/gsg/ is jannied 24/7:365 but /hoi4 modding general/ is basically /pol/CHAZ.
You can say nigger here, spam+flood, and off topic post to the point where it's basically /pol/lite.
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>>2410793
Sounds about right. Basically this. You can do whatever you want here and nobaldi cares. Thats why the schizo poster Mateusz is responsible for 300+ posts ITT.
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I like modded HOI 4 :)
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>>2410793
A bit exaggerated, the /uhg/fag gets jannied hard for instance, same goes with less egregious off-topic bullshit. The thread is fast and no one cares about keeping up with it but the pattern I noticed is that whenever a /uhg/fag goreposts or Cobblefag/Czar posted loli back in the day the Jannysignal would go off and they'd scour the thread for offenders. Otherwise it's pretty most treated like a small containment thread of sorts outside of major violations.

Don't be a fucking retard basically.
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>>2410531
There's a submod that adds in an ingame guide that's pretty good.
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>>2410527
>immigrants come to White country
>get given a free education, funding to travel and "resources"
>"This will stop immigrants coming!"
You are incredibly generous when imagining their moral character. Anything other then the whip will be seen as weakness by them and a chance to exploit you.
>Slovakia
That makes sense then, if you had a colonial past then you would know from first hand accounts how absolutely deceitfully greedy and imbecilically self-defeating these people are. You can build them wells, plant crops for them and even build schools but within a year or two all of that will be sold or decaying all the while they say "Sorry boss, yes boss, not our fault boss".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDJ4-MtAkQ
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>>2410647
Literally everything in that post is correct. I don't see the issue.
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Reminder this is what I sound like: vocaroo.com/15t05xjDsagQ
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>>2410746
Whilst Asian IQs are certainly high, a lot of their cultural markers are incredibly toxic to advancing beyond anything that is not already widely accepted. If you take the example of Japan and run with it you have a people that were very far behind technologically, administratively, philosophically and militaristically yet were able to rapidly advance to be able to combat a major European power thirty or so years after their transformation began in earnest, after fifty years they were on their way to dominating all of Asia through direct military conquest. Yet all of this was only because they were copying British, French and American ideas that were all evidently far superior to their old Shogunate way of thinking - their rapid advancement was only possible after all the ground-breaking discoveries had been done by others. You can take this further and see in it one of the explanations for Japan's defeat in the Second World War - they refused to change from these things that had propelled them forward so vastly. The Imperial Japanese Army was far more similar in character and tactics to the one that fought at the Battle of Mukden then the Soviet Army or the American Marines were to their 1905 contemporaries. That is not to say that the Japanese are, as a people, incapable of innovation but just that their culture and traditions tend to isolate those who wish to think outside of the box. You can even compare the Chinese usage of gunpowder to that of the British and see how utterly dominant the Europeans were during the 1800s regarding it.
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>2ACW starts in KX
>Canada joins as one of the factions I'm fighting against
>Canada is in the Entente, which means the whole Entente joins a simple Civil War
>the Syndies of America joins the 3I, which draws them in the shitstorm
I'm aborting this run. Fuck Canada.
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>>2410945
Enjoy the three-day.
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HoI4 mods motherfuckers. HOI4 MODS.
Collapsing World updated in April and focus tree has the most devious split.
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>>2410980
What is worse?
Both decisions of the split being terrible or the based one being terrible while the cringe one being good?
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>>2410985
>What's worse
You tell me
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>>2410980
>Collapsing World
Has anything updated regarding Britain? Also do you have era appropriate equipment yet instead of vanilla tanks and planes? I need to see the A7V featured in Himmler's wild ride.
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>>2410980
any mods with gypsy states?
romania doesn't count
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>>2410968
But I'm still here.
Jannies hate TNO. They know I'm right thats why they will never ban me. TNOhate is based and correct.
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>>2410968
>My feelings are hurt!!!! JANNIES PLZ BAN HIM HE HURT MY FEELINGS
Embarassing. You're very unwell.
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>>2410980
>meet with the Roma people
AVE ROMAAAAAA
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>>2411055
The likes of Trajan, Aurelian and Constantine look at Romania from heaven. They see gypsies scamming tourists and smile because Roman legacy is in good hands.
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>>2411048
>>2411051
You make samefag accusations all the time because you samefag, by the way (btw). The projection is obvious to anyone who cares to analyze you.
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>>2411129
You're coping.
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>>2411136
nice inspect element
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>>2411147
You can clearly see I have posted screenshot from site, not archive. Are you really this desperate for validation?
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TNO is so irrelevant that not even Youtube slop posters getting sub 10k views use it for clickbait.
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>>2411129
>everyone else is samefagging not me
>>2411147
>everyone in this thread is the same person
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>>2411148
You can use inspect element even on the site.
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>>2411147
>>2411148
>>2411150
>>2411151
>>2411152
Stop replying to yourself.
Literally 0 activity on the board besides these posts.
Absolutely obvious samefag.
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>>2410440
>>2410488
>Mexicans are capable of assimilation
Brown hands stained with high fructose corn syrup leeching off of welfare typed these posts.
The vast majority of mexican illegals refuse to integrate, refuse to learn english, refuse to assimilate or integrate.
Some illegally immigrate here, poop out 4 poopcolored babies, live 30 years here, get deported and still don't know english.

They break the law to come in, break the law by not understanding the language the law is written in, then get grandfathered in as residents and citizens.
Its the literal opposite of assimilation. Invasion.
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>>2411150
so is tfr apparently
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>>2411158
Its a normie video for normies so of course some edgy mods wont be praised.
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>>2411155
I CAN'T UPDATE
NOTHING EVER RELEASES
BILLIONS MUST REWORK
THE SUBSCRIBER NUMBERS HAVE FALLEN
IT'S TNOVER
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>>2410996
They gave britain 5 full paths
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>NuTNO gets a Kaukasien submod
>Looks inside
>The gameplay loop of Mexico, 0 wars, 0 reasons to ever touch your military, completely neutered and sterilized economy fitting the modern lore
>Anything interesting removed
>Literally made by a nudev
These people will always stand in the shadows of their betters and it makes them seethe.
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Japan has gone completely insane.
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>>2411556
One of the tags/paths just needs to be given the Dream Twister from Alpha Centauri, preferably the Insurrectionary Anarchists even if they're too retarded to actually invent something like that. Maybe handwave it as a UoA deep state creation they salvage after conquering them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lva8L-J8x04
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>>2411556
Did we get more stuff revealed? Got anything else?
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>>2411560
That game in general is a good source for plausible sci-fi inventions.

>>2411570
Maybe it's from the leaks?
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>>2411560
>>2411570
>>2411597
this is from a pax britannica submod
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>>2411600
Fuck.
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>>2411600
Rare Pax Brit W.
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>>2410993

>>2410993

>>2410993

Migrate to the quality thread. Fuck TNO.
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>>2411797
I'll migrate tomorrow.
You gotta get better about the news though buddy. Admittedly a lot of them relate to TNO's collapse, so I'll give you a pass on this one and let the /tno/ baker suffer from their idiocy.
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>>2411804
What are you talking about? and
Who gives a shit what you do, faggot?
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>>2411877
You, nigga.



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