Previous thread >>2402009Any mods got you excited? Any day now, Anbennar will come out
first for anby
Second for TOO EARLY.
Forever mogged by a 13 years old gameJust shut it down.
>>2405581>Any day now, Anbennar will come outThat mod got killed by trannies, read >>2405309 >>2405323 >>2400023>>2405643It's Vic3 all over again
>no armagnacs vs burgundians in HYW>no utraquists vs taborites in Hussite warsIt would be such an easy fix for France and Bohemia being op
Guys, I get we don't like mission trees. But can anyone explain me what's the difference between them and having events that need requirements so specific to trigger them you need an ingame event viewer?
Ulm.
>>2405688You'll pay 6 million scaling shekels for a historical artist to get 5 prestige and you'll like it>>2405693Kyiv
>>2405688>>2405661Theoretically could a player balkanize France down to its locations, to create Libya on steroids? If it can simulate that shit, I'm ready to get the game
1.2 killed this game.
SIKE THAT'S THE WRONG NUMBER
>>2405581the bureaucracies are the biggest let down. They are just scaleable moneysinks that adds some more modifier stacking. Nothing simulationist about them, it is all just back to board game of EU4.
Who should I play as?
>>2405906uninstall.exe
roads to power vs fate of the phoenix is honestly ludicrous. nakedly mogged by a sims game larping as a map painter.
>>2405651so much seething over nothingwhat's next, you'll complain that the mod has dragons too?
>>2405959The earlier the DLC the more lackluster it seems to be, that's their way of work
>>2405878>it is all just back to board game of EU4.great
>>2406013>old bad new good>things are improving
eu5 is hella fuckin based and the only people who disagree are blobbing eu4tards, redditors, and other assorted subhumans who can't understand the mechanics/just want their wc cheevo
>>2405877Johansisters.... how will cope now?
What the fuck have they done to the economy? I'm getting basically 0 value out of my Fine Cloth building because Novgorod is collapsing the price with their import.What the fuck am I supposed to do?
>>2406076Ship it back to them.
>>2406076Look at what's demanding it and increase that.
I've always had a soft spot for Theodoro. Also, DoD when?
>>2406076Oh God, they're going to end up adding Victoria 3 style tariffs, aren't they? Did Early Modern states even have such a concept?
Railroadchuds lost. You will enjoy blobheemia, superkiev, cucked ottomans, naples annexing the pope, BBB, dead austria, Spanish portugal, uberbulgaria in EVERY game and you will like it
>>2406057Look at crusader kings 3, the first dlcs were weaksauce, now it's getting more impressive, the game is becoming playable
>>2406114nothing impressive about ck3 to this day. literally reinstalled ck2 and ck3 today, gave ck2+hip a ride first then ck3 second. sufficient to say, ck3 has been once again uninstalled
>why would you play eu5 when ck3 does characters better?>why would you play eu5 when hoi4 does war mechanics better?>why would you play eu5 when victoria 3 does economics better?Do any of those games have granular per location population that actually matter?>v3Pops only exist per state. You can't see the culture and religion map change as you colonize/assimilate people.
>>2406094I think tolls and tariffs were part of your income in EU3.
>>2406118>>why would you play eu5 when hoi4 does war mechanics better?if i saw that argument anywhere i'd instantly know brown hands typed that shit
>>2406122Luckily it's just a strawman in my masterful play to depict anyone who disagrees with me as silly.
>>2406117Haven't all the modders abandoned it? Even for the persistent, the lack of support can be daunting, it has no future
>>2406127for major overhauls, yeah, CK3 is dead in the water. After the End, Elder Kings, Godherja, AGOT, all the good stuff is in ck3. BUT there is literally nothing similar to HIP or CK2+ for CK3, at best some steam collections trying to piece something together, but to no availto add to that, CK3 is just a worse game period. events are too long and too specific so you remember most of them after a campaign or two, mechanics like tournaments or courts are literal gimmicks, powercreep is everywhere, 3D characters are ugly as fuck, no historical soft railroading anywhere - I could go on and onone day some anon summed it up nicely - ck2 creates a story, while ck3 is a literal dollhouse
Fucking reddit meme dogshit>your king diesor>fuck you
>>2406135
>>2406118who the fuck cares about popsI just want to rape the french and the ottomans
>>2406135It happens too often and I hate that it's a heckin quirk chungus shiningerino reference, but it's not like there isn't historical precedent for monarchs being batshit insane.
>>2406122Look man, I get you spent at least 60 bucks on this mess and now you need to cope somehowBut if you're trying to say that random 0 morale stackwipes and cavalry on flanks are a better war simulation than literally designing your division, equipment, planes and ships, I'm just going to call you delusional.
>>2406144eu5 combat is shit, that is undeniablebut comparing eu5 combat to hoi4 is one of the most braindead takes there could be. you literally can't compare two, and if you think you can, you are a drooling retard
When discussing EU5 you have to clarify if you're talking about a non-existent "fixed" version of the game or the game as it actually exists.I think "EU5 combat" the idea is good. Standing regular armies being better than peasant hordes, the supply system, actual flanks for combat instead of it being abstracted through cavalry being able to attack diagonally like EU4.But combat as it actually exists in the game is dogshit.>your army instantly surrenders no matter what if they have 0 morale, even literally 1 vs 10,000>ai uses levies the entire game, even if they have a large standing army, resulting in 100k+ of their population being slaughtered wholesale every war>cavalry is wildly unbalanced, easily and instantly beating anything making any other combat metric, including combined arms, irrelevantI think the AI should NEVER raise levies if it has over 10k regulars, and should only raise levies past the age of discovery(1537+) if 10% of their country is occupied. Levies should only be the primary military force of your nation in the early game.
>>2405906Ulm
>>2406160one problem is that the forum tards want levies to = conscripts in later ages, when in reality they should = militia and seldom be used unless absolutely necessarynapoleonic conscripts were still regular troops, completely different from the militia systems
>>2406201In my ideal game levies would solely be used by third world countries in the mid/late game so Western Euros could roll up to India and btfo 100k jeets and take their land.
>>2406118>Do any of those games have granular per location population that actually matter?Play Victoria 2.
>>2406223Already played it to death.
>Sir, another 1 million pops have contracted smallpox.
>>2405478Elected him to the highest office, but sadly he's only had daughters, so they can't succeed him.
>>2406375Also, I probably shouldn't have colonized so much. I went from 250k to less than 100k now. Buildings cost +500% from being over cap.
>>2406379Do I try to salvage what little pops I have left or just keep sending them to the new world?
>>240637550% chance btw
>>2406036not really, if one wants to play EU4, just go and play it, no need to mold every other game into it
>>2406387What the fuck.Thousands of my pops have just started emigrating for no discernable reason. It doesn't tell me where to either.I stopped colonizing so I could recover my people...
Strats for playing as Sweden? Ideally focused on colonization and money making, the low population you have is a real bottleneck if you wanna go up against the titans of Germany. In my experience, the first 150 years are smooth sailing as you're just sitting there unifying Scandi and beating up Novgorod and co. for Finland and the Baltic, and then you gotta blitz colonization in North America for the LARP and the Caribbean for the dough, and then deal with the reformation and try to deal with the hellscape that is combat in EU5's HRE with all the locations and 40k+ deathstacks during the 30 Years War, I played with a mod that made it more devastating FYI but I never got sieged. I abandoned by previous playthrough just because of that to be honest.
>>2406094>Did Early Modern states even have such a concept?Not as a "market protection" tool, but more as a way of paying for government, since income tax wasn't really a thing. And yes, tariffs, import duties, fees, etc., were common all over the place. Free trade was an exception. An accurate medieval simulator would have cost friction points basically every step of the way unless you were dealing with, say, the hansa.
>>2406160Eh, there were cases like Poland-Lithuania which relied mostly on noble levies into the 1700s. England was oddly late to the party too. Even elsewhere, standing armies stayed rather small in peacetime. I don't think they started to get really massive before the later 17th century.I feel like regulars should differ from levies in other ways than combat prowess. Levy duty was typically very time-limited, so maybe past a certain point you should either cough up extra cash or risk a sharp drop in estate satisfaction. Okay for defense, not so much for protracted offensive campaigns, so it could help cut down on total wars too.
>>2406419Everything North of stockholm and oslo is worthless. Blob into Denmark and North Germany. Move your capital to copenhagen.Due to how winter works, literally all of Scandinavia is essentially worthless.
>>2406492Elaborate. Surely there's no problem encourage migration can't fix?
>>2406493Severe winters and artic climate is so bad outside of upgrading the rgo theres no point building anything there.
>>2406496Yeah, but the pops already there don't just die, so you just move them in and it's done.
>>2406497You'd be better moving the pops OUT of that area.
>>2406497>pops already there don't just dieLolLmaoGo ahead, take North Scandinavia and watch all the provinces wither to 1 population and because it's "severe winter" for 80% of the year, unless you're spamming markets day 1 and importing mass amounts of food, there's no recovering from it.Like I said, the land is entirely worthless outside of achieving formables. But even then you're better off blobbing into England and doing north sea empire. But you can go sweden->scandi->NSE to maximize all the techs. But ultimately you come to realize the land in England/lowlands/holstein/rostock and elbe areas are worth significantly more. The whole thing is a fruitless endeavor.If you really want a northern game, start as Denmark (better proximity speed and naval proximity buffs), then blob into sweden/Norway and then take London and keep chipping away at them until you get all the provinces for Scandinavia and then north sea formables. Then you blob into North Germany. It's not a particularly fun playthrough. Get used to permanently seeing "provinces are starving" notifications.Oh, and don't bother even trying to blob into Finland or baltics and st peterburg. Without immaculate RNG having navies spread maritime presence there just means you'll find out your stacks of ships died to lol Arctic sea weather out of nowhere.T. Played Denmark/NSE into 1650 before I got bored
If you go latin byz is it better to take the event to become catholic or is it better to just convert italy to orthodox?
1430Very hard, high aggression, historical personalitiesFeels a little like the pre-neutering AI
>>2406528>Kyiv>Byzantrans>Blobheemia >Lowlands france>French EnglandI'm tired, boss.
So what's next for this game now that the reception of the latest patches has been mixed to mostly negative?
>>2406506It's kind of retarded that wild game and fish are affected by the entire winter food productivity penalty.>>2406530At least Papal States and Poortugal still live!
>>2406528The Hell? Golden Horde Prussia? No Ottomans? And that treaty port in Dover is cursed. I just wanna see Russia, Britain, and Spain actually form around their historical times for once.
>>2406530>>2406537go read a history book if you want history, chuds. line up go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>2406537Golden Horde is me. I am still debating when to form Prussia
>>2406540This! So much this! Every game is dynamic and unique now, because we don't have *railroading*>Every game hasSuperkiev Uberbulgaria Lowland francePortugal annexedNaples eating papacyMamluks blobbing everywhereBlobheeming>Chuds don't want thisRead a book
>>2406528>Golden Horde only exists in PrussiaVGH.
>>2406556>>2406528THE HUNS
>>2406533Game development ending
*burp*
>crashes for no reason
The patch is fine, its funny it make redditors seeth because disease actually does something now
>Byzantine AI converted to Hellenism and I didn't even buy the DLCThis is how it begins, isn't it?
This is why levies don't belong in this game.>>2406602>feeling that jolt of dread whenever the disease notifier appears>that wave of relief when it's just another influenza
>>2406602t. died of bubonic plague in 1528
You should be able to change your age preference. Its bullshit I can never get a religious CB because I chose the wrong option 5 years into the game
Dead game.
>>2406603Gross
>>2406456I was thinking it would make sense if levies morale/organization drop on movement would get progressively worse the longer they were kept in the field and the further you took them from home, but idk
>>2406134I too played crusader kings 2 for several years after ck3, cause that game was barebones at launch, but my point is that paradox in all these entries does a snowball, the early content for the game usually turns out to be dogshit, years later though they're adding China, landless rulers, theocracies...that's a far cry from a tournament. You can actually see this in that Roads to power is a degree of detail down from the khanates, in turn under those pesky Japanese noblemen. In hoi4, the tree they gave to Switzerland is bigger than what fucking America had with man the guns, in Victoria 3 first they release some filler and THEN they redo the entire economy. You see where I'm going with this? It's not simply that old means bad, the more years a game has under them the more potent the updates yet. Eu5 released in an incomplete state, and fate of the Phoenix is a little toad of an entry, had this very dlc dropped five years from now it would be the size of godzilla instead
EU4 should have started in 1337EU5 should have started in 1444
>>24066381+3+3+7=141+4=5Hence it's called EU5
>>24066381+4+4+4=131+3=4Hence it's called EU4
>>2406602Funny because redditors are the target audience of this game and Paraslop has been taking a lot of their feedback along of forumtrannies who are the same people in the end of the day.
>>2406651>>2406658the power of foreshadowing...
>>2406632>the early content for the game usually turns out to be dogshit, years later though they're adding China
>>2406668NTA but AUH was a laudably massive expansion
>>2406668>>2406673Well yeah, they did add it and not just as an offmap entity
>>2406673>>2406674Adding garbage like India and China is the worst kind of nu-Paradox bloat. The map should’ve ended with North Africa and Persia.
>>2406686What's next, making the game take place entirely within the Holy Roman Empire?
>>2406686RoI was over a dozen years ago
Would've been a fun war if mamelucks didn't smell blood and invade with their 1 gorillion militarized arabs
Jesus Christ in heaven, Johan should be readying his balls for a flattening from Paradox execs. This is an actual disaster, I don't see how they can recover from this one if even DLC didn't pump player numbers enough to be at least a third of initial numbers
>>2406712took em just one week to get back to pre 1.1 levelsfire johan
>>2406712Don't worry, we're going to have a Dev Q+A :^)No we won't answer any tough questions. No we won't say anything that makes us look bad. No we won't give any specific answers as to how we're fixing anything. No we won't stop treating you like unpaid beta testers. But Johan will talk vaguely about how his 'vision' of the game is for things to be really really good and that things just work, so maybe in a few years and few hundred dollars of DLC that'll just suddenly be true! So can you just stop being so negative already?
We got to the point where even the forum and fucking reddit have become too negative and devs are actively avoiding any social. It's like watching a train derail at slow speed.
>>2406712At this point the only thing that can salvage the game is going the Imperator: Rome way.
>>2406766Haha no way they'd pull the plug on their baby like this, Johan is a DREAMER
>>2406767I was going to argue with you and say this game is a flop, but considering how cheap labor is in Spain and that the game was mostly coded by retarded inbred jeets I think they are getting a good amount of revenue from it.
Reminder that if you EVER don't use your Enforce Culture button on a subject the exact day it comes off its ten year cooldown, you are permanently falling behind. There is literally zero way to make up that time by excelling in or making sacrifices in other areas of the gameplay, you've just made yourself permanently weaker, whether it's by a day, a year, or decades. And since you need to control the subject for ten years before you can press the magic culture button, you need to always stay a decade ahead of the timer or else - again, you fall behind. This is Tinto's brilliant solution to people making the whole game revolve around culture converting vassals.
Why is this game so fucking anti-fun?
>>2406776Artists for some reason tend to despise the piece of art that made them well-known and popular in the first place. They clearly hate everything about EU4 despite it being one of the biggest cash cows they milked for more than a decade.
Do you think Johan wanted to make Victoria 3 but wasn't allowed to due to imp rome so when he got a chance to make eu5 he made the Victoria 3 game he envisioned
>>2406776I'm having fun though
You know what's funny? Johan mase eu4 so everything, like building stuff,costed mana and everyone hated itso they had to remove it. Then he did exactly the same for imp rome.
is there a way to disable alerts permanently?this fucking religious ability ready alert is popping up literally every month and the welcome to eu5 one every game is annoying too
>>2406843You have to right click them to move them to the muted alerts and then go to the muted alerts and unclick the bell icon.
>>2406776because it's made by johan (pbuh)if you don't like the game you're just a low IQ chud pedophile
I sincerely hope Johan kills every single one of you
>>2406893He already killed me of boredom as I played his slop of a game. Does it count?
Do your consort's stats matter? I think it only matters during a regency, so why would I care about the spouse's stats?
>>2405906There isn't much fun starts i supposeI only played byz and theodoro in 1.2 but in 1.0 i did>Tabaristan Last bavandid dynasty ruler there, rather hard to save dynasty(heir ,if you get one that is, gets whacked a lot) but turning country into Zoroastrian persia was kinda fun>Tadmekka Its tuareg vassal of Mali, can(could in 1.0 at least) expand into Air(formable) pretty fast via colonization, country is a blank slate with no tech, tribal government and sub 1 k pop at start(gets to 300+ k once you colonize)>Manx isleCould get independence fast and larp as norse raiders or just turn isle into megalopolis Big countries are no fun whatsoever
How do I turn off all the notifications related to the Patriarchates? I don't need to know that X nation joined and instantly left every month.
theres a measles "pandemic" that is "spreading" across western europe for the last 35 yearsit keeps coming back scaring me with the disease bannerit has killed 400 of my people, 33600 total. 35 yearsthis thing will never disappear, the moment a province has a month tick decaying the resistance from 100% to 99.9% it immediately comes back, kills nobody and then disappears until next month
>>2406712Literally all they have to do is put out a good stable patch. I was interested in playing again but I spent a bunch of time porting my personal mod from 1.1 that fixes a bunch of stupid shit that should've been fixed on release, then I realized they're still hotfixing and hotfixing and I'd have to re-update the mod again, and I realized I'd just be encountering new forms of stupid shit so why even bother. I'd rather just play something else and wait until the game is one day made stable and balanced. And if that day never comes I just won't play, sad as it isWhatever their dev process is, it only produces a minimum viable product that severely lacks testing. unless they totally overhaul the process their only choice is to run a months-long open beta for every patch, and given how fast they want to shit out patches that won't happen, so I don't know. What I do know is rapid unstable patches + low player count = modders give up on the game.
>>2406938>they just need to make a good patchwow
>>2406937That happening in every location on every tick has got to be epic for performance.
>>2406939I mean it sounds simple but clearly it isn't, they're shitting out patches like it's a checklist and as long as they check off all the boxes it's good to ship, even if it doesn't work. There are basic errors all over the scripts.Did you know it's almost impossible for the AI to marry lowborns to continue their dynasty, because whoever wrote the script added an extra 0 to the modulus? And it's been there since release? Nobody even checked and they still haven't checked.
>>2406937meanwhile smallpox will delete more people than the plague
>>24069381.3 will fix it, trust the planThe fact that they're going back to the open beta is an embarrassing way to admit they don't do QA and are just gonna outsource it to paying customers but at least we'll have a proper releaseFor what it's worth I like v1.2 desu, game is going in the right direction
I transheart doing nothing but spamming buildings, watching the line go up and losing pops to diseases for 500 years straight!!!!
>>2406977this. them adding additional mechanics to the city-building makes me leak from my neo-vagina teehee
>>2406977this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!they should add mana so I can cast my magic spell to turn the sahara desert into wakanda!!!!!time for my 67th nahuatl ulm wc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2406969I think the direction is good and roadmap looks fantastic, but if they ship every patch without the most basic code auditing none of it will matter. It'll just be a perpetual>wow looks good, i'll wait until it's stable>seems fun but i gotta wait>just gonna wait some more>i just need to wait
>>2406988>nahuatl ulm wcunironically a funnier campaign than anything you'd be able to do in this game
yucking it up with another hindu inuit game lads
>>2406988>time for my 67th nahuatl ulm wc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SIX SEVEEEEEEEEEEEEN
Blobbing over to the New World to flip to their religion and then crusading through Eurasia to spread it sounds like a lot of fun actually.
>conquer province>spend few years integrating it>spend few decades converting the culture so it becomes a coreWill this get faster in age of absolutism?I'm plying as Ottomans with dozen cabinet members and events for faster integration yet it still feels like ages to core provinces.
>>2407018Try not giving a shit whether it's a core or not. They won't revolt once they're integrated. The only difference between integrated and core is a small amount of control, it's inconsequential provided you already have infinite money anyway, which you should if you've properly industrialized your nation.
>>2407018coring even existing as a mechanic in the game feels like they had two teams working on the game at once, like why do you need a 'core' or 'integrated' province to begin with when you have satisfaction and control (as well as various associated buildings) as mechanics?they should just go more towards to eu3 style of 'core' but also update the way that pops interact with one another.right now the way that you accept/tolerate pops is extremely expensive based on the way that pops view one another as well as the relative percentage of that pop as the total, but this means that the optimal way to play is to keep whichever country exists as the dominant nation of a pop around to press the 'improve opinion' button whenever it is off cooldown, and you can only do this in a limited way due to the associated cooldown which is global and not a per-pop basis.in reality the game should give you events that nudge cultural opinion on a slider towards 'kindred' or 'negative' and that should just provide bonuses/maluses to control or cause events/revolts to fire etcif johan wants eu5 to be le EPIC SANDBOX WAHOO then he should actually implement these kinds of mechanics
>>2407025Cores should only exist as claimsThey should provide no bonuses. Everything should be based on control and proximity.
>>2407027cities should be natural proximity sources
I'm just sick of every market having a huge surplus of goods constantly.Completely remove burgher trades from the game, they do too much to equalize every market. It should be expected and normal for some markets just not to have shit.
>>2406766To go the Imperator route they'd have to fix the game before abandoning it, which will apparently never happen
>>2406938>Whatever their dev process is, it only produces a minimum viable productI wonder what kind of development tool could've been released during this game's pre-release that made it extremely easy for them to keep shitting out MVP software that sort of works and almost makes sense
>>2407022It's a 15% max control difference that will fuck with your magically scaling costs, and now your crown power too
>>2407034It's weird, they designed this whole supply and demand system but when they made the map they ensured every market naturally has every RGO it needs.They put a fur location like 2 miles from Nanjing. It's got millions of people in it. What did they think would happen?They added starvation mechanics, then balanced food distribution so nobody starves. Huh?
>>2407050Yeah, but so what?Ultimately it only effects money, and that shouldn't be a problem for you.Hell, you can even close buildings in low control areas if you wanted to be extremely autistic about it so that they contributed less to your overall wealth.
>>2407055average control also affects research ratethey should let you spend money mana to improve research speed
>>2407054About starvation specifically, something they should add but obviously never will is targeted food purchasing.For example, you might want to pay for food in the London province, because it's naturally at a net negative due to being three city locations, but you might not care if Connacht starves because they people there all hate you, and it's low control. But under the current system you either pay for all food or no food, so either Connacht and London live or Connacht and London die.
>map painting game where painting the map punishes you>popmaxxing game where getting rich is pointless and boosting literacy only lets you research the worst techs you'd otherwise ignorewhat did johan mean by this
>>2407057>being a blobbing fuck harms your research speedhmmmis the solution to stop blobbing and focus on developing territory you can propagate control overor should the game let you blob epic style and give no maluses to this whatsoever?
>>2407065I....must.....BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
Fuck tinto talks I want to see some tinto tantrums. Pavia, give me back my week 1 playercounts!
>>2407065>>2407067kill yourself.
EU5 is making all the right people mad, even if I personally don't particularly enjoy it in it's present state.
>>2407065Why should the borders of a nation expanding affect the rate at which scientists in the capital research docks so they can research boats so they can figure out how to allow another person into the cabinet or whichever other nonsensical research path exists?It doesn't make any sense from a simulationists perspective.
shitting in my pants so the blobbers will have to smell it rn
>>2407078>state has to fund tard wranglers so there's less money for the domestic
>>2407078the intelligentsia are all progressive liberal philanthropists and dont work as hard because they are upset that the english crown is expanding its control in the indian subcontinent
blobbing should increase research speed since it allows direct access to new and undiscovered locations
YO LIL BLOBBIEI JUST TOOK A FAT SHIT AND ATE ITBET YOU WANT TO NOCB ME NOW HUH YOU ULM WC BASTARD
>>2407081progressive liberal philanthropists liked british imperialism
>but it's not "fun">but i'm being punished for painting the map>but there are too many mechanics>but i have to spend all my time microing>but you have to wait decades for policy to take effect>but diseases are killing people>but every nation doesn't get arbitrary magical buffsjohan, i kneel, you've completely btfo'd blobtards, eu4shitters, manababbys, dopamine-adddled zoomoids, and content creators forever in perpetuity.
>>2407097who are you quoting
yo little blobbie, I just lost half my pops to a cold.do you feel dumb for that teuton horde game now?
>completely independently discover the Turkish Trebizond exploit while fucking around in Anatolia>every jewtuber is on itlolWill they slap on a hard "must be Muslim and Turkish" on every Ottoman reform and tech now or what?Also sucks you miss out on the Restore Roman Borders casus belli but honestly it's ahistorical to the point of retardation, your Greek Orthodox ass is not invading England. The antagonism reduction from the Ottoman reform is honestly better for the natural borders of Egypt/South Italy/Balkans.
>>2407097im also trans btw if that matters
I dont get this schizo's point. There is no direction for you to follow so blobbing is literally the only thing you can do in eu5. The funny thing is, you get debuffs for low average control and for having subjects, so you are punished for the only thing this game allows for. As it stands now, there is 0 difference between, lets say, blobbing into germany, hungary or eastern slavs as Poland
Cores should be removed. They're a relic of a game with a high degree of abstraction ie. EU4. In this game you can model the satisfaction, loyalty and rebel tendency of each individual pop. Base the control level and unrest from those instead of a magical 50% culture threshold.Remove integration as well. You have an economy system, borrow from Vicky and introduce bureaucracy. You don't click the magic cabinet button to abstractly "integrate" a province, you need to actually integrate it into your new state. You need buildings, paper, and bureaucrats. Accepting the culture and court language of existing bureaucrats in areas you province will make integration faster, like the Ottomans integrating Greek Byzantine bureaucrats to run their state. Or take a lesson from Mughals and import your own Persianate bureaucrats into your Indian conquests.
>>2407109>blobbing is literally the only thing you can do in eu5.Incorrect. You can developmax your homeland and build up the economy. That was the best part of Imperator anyway, seeing civilization grow and expand from nothing.
>>2407112In Imperator you actually have things to spend money on
>>2407112>you can play tall!Tall is boring as fuck. And you can't really scale that well with only 1 province or location.
>>2407112>You can developmax your homeland and build up the economyDo you think that you can't do that if you're also taking other people's land in wars? Is deciding what buildings to make next so extremely difficult for you that you couldn't do it if you also had to drop down to speed 5 every now and then to stackwipe the AI with your mercenaries? Is placing down roads and mass building the new burgher or soldier building you tech'd so exciting and tense for you that you enjoy staring at build timers ticking down for 50 real life hours? I mean I really don't understand this argument.You get a couple new laws and government reforms every age, which each take a couple clicks to lock in, and may let you push one or two values a bit further, but that's all set and forget. After 100-200 years your estates are completely toothless and only have the privs you want them to have. Managing vassals is done by keeping your diplo slider on and doing Improve Opinion on each of them. Tinto know that these mechanics are simple and boring as hell, which is why 1.5 in the roadmap talks about how they're going to overhaul them.
What the fuck is the war goal in a restore Roman borders CB war? The CB tooltip implies it's to capture and hold the enemy capital, but I do that and still have "defender ticking -25" all the time.
>>2407138>What the fuck is the war goal in a restore Roman borders CB war?Holding arbitrary Roman Borders land I think
Privateering seems busted or AI just can't combat it.
>>2407109>There is no direction for you to followMake up your own goal? Are you a 15 year old autistic zoomer with no imagination? Can you only follow the yellow paint in video games?
>>2407158holy fucking retard
>>2406695>RoI was over a dozen years agoI said nu-Paradox, did I not? It came out after EU4.
>>2407162you don't have to sign your posts
>>2407172original joke boyget back to spam increasing RGOs and smashing the braindead AI while le making your own fun!
>>2407097half of that isnt even true, different nations, religions and cultures do get magical buffs and they will keep adding more and more of those in every patch, there arent too many mechanics in the game if anything it is too barebones and extant mechanics do not serve the purpose they are supposed to and there is literally not one single player in the game who actually bothers to micromanage their trade
>>2407111I'm not sure rebels really exist in this game, I have never had a major revolt or problems arise from revolts.
>>2407112at what point do you go from tall to blob
can you truly be said to be punished for blobbing when you can just scale your economy in your high control locations and losing out on a small amount of research each month is mostly irrelevant since you can just keep expanding and scale past any need to out-tech any ai opponent, especially since you can just merc up and obliterate them
>look up estate privileges meta>a bunch of privileges you should ALWAYS give no matter the country>a fuckton privileges you should give most of the time no matter the country>a few situational privileges >a bunch of privileges you should NEVER give no matter the country No wonder any country feels the same.
>>2407188>i-i can still blob>j-johan lets me as long as i develop a tall area of my nation like a good boy first!blobtards in full ensieg rn
>>2407188correct. nothing you do in the game is appropriately punishing or rewarding. you might as well just use observer mode
>>2407190In fairness a lot of the privileges are situational edgecases where deciding to take them or not matters, but some of them are straight "kick yourself in the balls and die" tier.
>>2407190>look up meta>UHHHH WHY DOES EVERYTHING PLAY THE SAMEjesus christ the modern paradox audience is retarded
>>2407190I lost interest in the privileges system when I found out that the ones that reduced food consumption in exchange for RGO size had been bugged since release. Why even try anything new if it's always a coinflip for whether the mechanic even works?
>>2407196even if you did not look up a video on what is good to pick you would naturally converge on what is good to pick anyway which in eu5 is remarkably easy since there are very few estate privileges where you actually have to think about if you should give it out or not
>>2407192This is like saying that you can't blob in EU4 because governing capacity means you can't effectively harvest your non-stated full core land due to low autonomy and that you are forced to play tall and build/develop primarily within your full core full state land.
>>2407199The fact that you felt the need to look up a video on the meta of a single player game shows that you're a retard though.
>>2407201you cant even tell when youre replying to different people
>>2407200this makes no sense on multiple levels btw
>>2407204You will build the Temple, Workshop, Barracks and Manufactory and then blob and like it, sandboxxie.
estates are another gamified and pointless system and vastly inferior to what existed in vic2
>>2407203I accept your concession
>>2407158This! I am glad we have a true simulation where dynamic historically plausible things happen in every game like Kiev dominating eastern Europe! Railroadsissies lost.
>>2407222Hate mission trees, hate the bajillion modifiers, hate the buffs from easy as shit missions. I will enjoy EUV for it does not have mission trees.Mission trees are for cucks because you always get cucked out of completing it
>>2407225I'm trans btw
>>2407225have fun with your soon to be abandoned product :)trans rights are human rights xister!
>>2407222this but unironically
If I wanted a recreation of history I'd go watch a video. I think its cool that different countries colonize and come into power than what happened historically. The main issue is that it is the SAME ahistorical countries.So much of history *almost* didn't happen and hinged on abitrary events or close battles. If you went back in time and squished a butterfly, history would likely play out way differently. That is what the game strive to "simulate"
>>2407206The whole government reform/estate privilege/parliament/laws/succession/country type system needs to be completely overhauled tbqhwy
>>2407242>The whole [...] system needs to be completely overhauled tbqhwy
got to say i find the "both sides calling each other trannies" epictruly some great posts itt
>>2407256/gsg/ isn't sending its best
>>2407112Imperator is literally THE blobbing game.
>>2406412Thisnis what happens when you build foreign buildings. (Trade Posts, Overseas Trading Posts, Slave centers), the pops are sourced from your capital. It's the #1 reason you shouldn't build Overseas Trading Posts. The pops you lose aren't worth the meager trade capacity you get.
What am I supposed to do about control on islands? I'm playing Byz and just got Crete and Cyprus back. I thought the main way was supposed to be maritime presence, but if I tell my navy to patrol the seas around, say, Crete, it'll just pick one sea tile to sit in and slowly build up presence. REAL slowly. Like, leaving it in that sea tile for 100 years won't get it to max maritime presence levels of slow. And then I'm supposed to let it move over to the next tile to repeat it again just to get control here?Don't tell me vassalize it. Am I really expected to have a permanent vassal for each island because the game's mechanics don't let me control a piece of land that the real Rome and later Byzantium controlled with no problem for centuries?
>>24072761. Early ships are really shit at generating maritime presence, to the point it isn't worth bothering with them, just have a single ship with a crown character as admiral for crown power +25%.2. When you finally unlock light ships you should be absolutely spamming them in to a doomstack to get maritime presence up quickly. As many as you have sailors for, 50+
>>2407278OK, but that's still a retarded system. I need to pay all that gold to make 50+ light ships just to park them on a single sea tile to get some control on a fraction of the island?
>>2407282It works by provinces. You park a 50 stack on a "province", that simultaneously increases naval proximity in 4-6 sea tiles, then when they're all at 100 you break off however many ships are needed to maintain 100 maritime presence (usually 10 with the first light ships, tapering off to 5 with upgraded ones) and start again with the next province.Yes, it's a lot of micro, but the results are the sea is dirt cheap to spread proximity over. With a dock, wharf, and protected harbor in locations a and b it's basically 100% control.
>>2407286This chore is part of what made me quit. A patch where they just fixed the naval patrol mission would be a gamechanging update for me.
>>2407292Naval patrol missions works already.
>>2407297Not if you want to maintain 100 presence everywhere. It should park them in one province and then split off a maintenance fleet like the OP described.
This game would be infinitely better if they increased the passive gain of things (assimilation, conversion, development, integration) and REMOVED cabinet advisors from the game all together.
Just noticed small nations are sitting with 200+ buildings in their cities at the end of 15th century.Is this common or a recent bug?
>>2407313Why would that be a bug? There is no downside to building more and more unless you desperately need migration to the location.
>>2407315I don't get why they made the punishment for being over the building cap an emigration push.1. It's unrealistic, in real life more people would want to come to the place with more jobs.2. In the game it just expounds the problem forever. People leave, which reduces the building cap further, so more people leave, etc, etc. You're basically forced to cuck yourself.
>>2407317They probably still have a net positive migration, especially if they add a court wizard.
>>2407313>>2407315>>2407317>>2407318>Just play tall!>Playing tall results in your country depopulatingLol
>>2407325>people don't want to live in a vertical favela>this is bad game design o algo
>>2407326meanwhile in history everyone wanted to live in constantinople, rome, paris, london et cetera even though they were insane disease infested pits of death
>>2407326>Thriving metropolis rife with opportunity and services>Um, no thanks>Rural province with no infrastructure?>YABBA DABBA DOO
Sandboxxietroons smothered EU5 in the cradle.
>>2407332Ironically troons are the ones keeping EU4 alive through Anbennar. Without them it would be deader than EU5.
migration is totally fucked in this game desu, for starters why is it limited to only being within the market?
>>2407329they didnt doe. people moved to these cities because they were forced by the government (paris, london) or because of local harassment (constantinople, rome)
>>2407334saying the quiet part out loud but it's so there isn't a repeat of victoria 3 style migration where the entire new world becomes indian by the 1860s
>>2407341you could avoid that by adding laws to limit foreign migration, tech requirements/penalties etc for migration between markets of different distances and so onas an example an indian pop making it all the way to europe is extremely unlikely before a certain timeframe because they arent even aware of most of europe and even if aware of european markets it would need enough migration attraction to want to move there instead of a neighboring marketcascading migration would also be relatively unlikely since pops are cultural rather than ethnic so it would probably be assimilated to some persian and then turkic or levantine before arriving in europe and promptly being assimilated to swabian or whatever (cultural assimilation is another issue)
Daily reminder that the schizo obsessed with blobbers is a retard that plays neither EU5 or EU4 and just desired to hate on the latter for some obscure reason. I suspect farming easy (you)s
>>2407226Never asked, you can be a proboscis monkey for all I care. >>2407231It is in the name so of course they are human rights. What are you retarded? Unless of course you are implying that trans people are less than human, if so then you need to reconsider your life.
>>2407225>>2407232Sunk cost fallacy
>>2407352>Sandboxxie directly admits he's a mentally ill trannyKek
>>2407348It would add a lot of computational power needed and with it, lag. Something the game already has too much of. Currently migration is simply a check if bigger number true. That system works while using relatively low CPU demand.What you're suggesting would go from this simple check to having to add tech checks, distance checks, for EVERY location.On the pure issue of what Paradox is willing to do, they will never put ANY effort into simulating anything that upsets their neoliberal sensibilities. They wouldn't have Europeans restrict non-European migration. They wouldn't add objections to certain cultures coming in, it would just be a free for all. Java, China, and India start overpopulated, so every single game start would involve hundreds of thousands of Chinese emigrating to Japan and Korea. Hundreds of thousands of Indonesians emigrating to Cambodia. Hundreds of thousands of Indians emigrating to Persia.In a game where Iraq becomes Mongol in 100% of playthroughs I would rather keep migration limited to individual markets if it means we avoid this bullshit.Victoria 3 is a prime example of how your theory would go in practice. For THREE YEARS of the game's development there would be a mass migration of Indians to the US and Canada every single game. Dozens of states would become majority Indian. When this was brought up on the forum what do you think Paradox did? They ignored it. If the user dared mention that the US and Canada wouldn't accept Indians in the 1840s on racial grounds they were banned.EVENTUALLY they fixed this by adding a discrimination mechanic, but that didn't change the fact the game was broken for years and their response was it was WAD because they were simulating "a better world" where "people didn't care about made up concepts like race."I mean look at fucking slave centers in current EU5. They free the slaves instantly because Africans won't take their own as slaves. How long do you think it will take for that to be fixed?
Didnt timmy buckbrake the golden horde which led to its collapse? why does a gross east slav coalition kill it every game instead?
>>2407363They can't simulate major events with nuance. Even if they did it this way Timmy would BTFO them and then the Russians would sit around like impotent cucks grieving their fallen master.I've said before and I say again, they need some sort of a power vacuum mechanic whereby other nations smell blood in the water and start dogpiling. It could have been complacency but redditards got mad their blob was being curtailed.
>>2407364>I've said before and I say again, they need some sort of a power vacuum mechanic whereby other nations smell blood in the water and start dogpilingTo be fair, this happens with the GH but because war mechanics are jank supreme, they somehow sit for centuries with a broken economy and an army of 200 people yet no Slavs take land from them. They're perpetually in civil wars which breaks the war mechanics.>the Horde is declining! Here's a free CB, go get their land!>whoops it seems "rival warlord" sieged this border province first, and you can't annex it anymore since they automatically take control of it, guess you aren't taking land :( try again in 15 years
>>2407370Yes, but that's artificially created through free CBs and events. I want a dynamic system where a country that has no possible rivals, a corrupt and entrenched ruling class, and no impetus for existing becomes decadent and weak, and all their neighbors decide to start shit.When the Ottomans went to war with the Mamluks the Ottomans were a dynamic strong power facing enemies on all sides. The Mamluks however were a husk barely keeping able to perpetuate their own rule. There NEEDS to be a mechanic that simulates this dynamic.
>>2407364>I've said before and I say again, they need some sort of a power vacuum mechanic whereby other nations smell blood in the water and start dogpiling. It could have been complacency but redditards got mad their blob was being curtailed.This already happens but nations just find it impossible to properly gather warscore especially against GH who wind up in a rebellion at the same time
I am neither a sandboxer or railroader. I just enjoy numbers going up and down.
>>2407370>>2407376This can be very easily fixed>if you're in a war with a country and they get into a civil war, both factions immediately join the war against you, so you can't cheese truces>if a country is in a civil war, you can either use any regular CB which gets you in war with both factions, but it also opens an "Intervene in Civil War" CB that only puts you at war with one side but makes taking land very expensive, 4th Crusade style
They clearly set expectations too high and delivered too little. Why even show those Swedish, Indian, VLM blobs in the trailer if your game actually discourages territorial expansion?
>EU4 vs EU5
ever notice how people criticizing eu4 will list actual mechanics and playstyles they dislike (ulm wc, mana, etc) but people criticizing eu5 just say "eu5 bad" "player numbers"almost as if they lack the intellectual capacity to articulate their feelings
>>2407385eu4: 4/6/5 ruler with conqueror, charismatic negotiator and zealoteu5: got the idiot trait at age 2, was given a diplomatic education, embezzler + babbling buffoon and greedy
>>2407392That is the opposite of what happens.
>>2407383They had no choice VtM2 plummeted their fiscal year
>>2407392least disingenuous EU5 shill post
>ulm wc, mana, etc>meanwhile eu5
>>2407448Blobbing in 5 is even easier than 4, especially early in the game when warscore is mostly given by battles and early regular troops.But sandboxsissies' clitties leak when you point it out and immediately go back to shitting on EU4.
I refuse to go back to playing a game without pops
>>2407455So do I and probably everyone else who is shitting on eu5 itt. As it stands now, it sucks to play either of them
>>2407455pops are merely another scaling modifier to me
>Create vassal out of freshly conquered sunni lands and give it to a character of my religion to convert said lands>Character immediately converts to islam insteadWhat am I doing wrong?
>>2407486use feifdom i think
>>2407486He saw the trvth of Mohammad's (pbuh) words and knew that his liege was an infidel.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/upcoming-eu5-dev-q-a.1923577/The QA thread is just full of people calling out the retarded way Johan is handling the game. This QnA might break him>Lol
>>2407541>QA thread Watch them cherrypick all the questions that praise the team and ignoring all the ones that make them look bad.
>>2407541>Q5>Q9Mindraped beyond salvation.
>>2407547Johan? I agree.
>>2407486Created vassal inherits the province capital culture and religion regardless of who you put in charge now.
>>2407546they're going to have an llm summarize the thread and generate ~10 softball questions, and then have the llm answer the questions for them. then johan will respond a few times in the thread in brusque, broken english that clearly doesn't match the style of his main q&a post
Every couple of months, I get hit by the flag for disloyal vassals. My vassals are all loyal and have positive opinions of me, then a month where nothing changed ticks over and bam, they're all at -200 opinion of me. When I hover over the opinion breakdown, it doesn't even look that bad to me. Looks like it should be positive, in fact. What is causing it to spontaneously plummet to -200 all the time?
>>2407592you're playing the game wrong, blobber. vassals are cheating and this is the game warning you to stop cheating
>>2407560My bet is seven questions total, and while they'll all be softballs they'll also throw in one absolute fluffball like "what's the most EPIC moment you've had in your internal multiplayer game" that a real person totally asked them, you wouldn't know them though because they go to a different school
There is just too much negativity going on for them not to feature at least 1 negative question. It's going to be a really soft question which they are going to response to with shit like "we're already looking at it and you can expect changes in the near future"
>>2407616I can't imagine the response to that being good. Really I don't see anything they can do to improve their PR situation at this point. They just have to start making better patches faster.
What is the meta for a number of locations i should give my custom subjects to not get diminishing returns while annexing?
>>2407631There's no hard and fast answer because you still get a scaling annexing speed boost for having 10x or more population than them. But really, the important limiting factor isn't annexation speed, it's the Divinely-given rule that says you can only tell one subject to change their culture or religion once every 10 years. "Optimal play" now requires you to think about the next hundred year's worth of antagonism you're going to generate, how much land you're going to take with it and how many cultures are in it, and what 10 flips you'll do in it. The best general guideline I can give is to make subjects along culture boundaries and split each culture into 1 to 3 subjects - maybe more if it's a huge one like Castilian or English, and half as many if you need to flip religion too.
The cope is off the charts in the forum. "It's da chinese review bombinggg!!!" kek
>>240763120. The answer is 20. Don't listen to that other retard lol
>>2407631>metaJust play unranked, lil gup, you will never make it platinum
Lol
>>2407681She's not wrong tho
>>2407681Nazi general pfp czechs out
games so ass even the mods don't bother defending it anymore
niggas really treat games like politics. yes guys keep telling johan to step down, the people who spent years working under him will magically make everything better when he's gone if we just keep changing p̶r̶i̶m̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶i̶s̶t̶e̶r̶s̶ lead devs
>>2407699Imperator became a much better game under Arheo
>>2407699johan is a good idea guy. he is total dogshit at execution and taking responsibility or being flexible. he's autistic, in the worst way.literally put a real hard nosed programmer and design lead to take his spot. focus on fixing the massive spaghetti code mess of broken and not working mechanics. then you start to add shit. it's not rocket science. throwing shit at the wall is not going to make the fundamental pieces of the game work as they should.
>>2407710they should hire you, you seem like a smart guy who knows exactly what to do
>>2407711yeah, i wouuld actually sit and play the game for an hour before launching a major patch. to catch such extreme bugs like>parliament not working (buug detected 1 minute after launch by players)>navies never dying (reported 1 minute after a patch in december, still not even acknowledged)>your king randomly becoming another nation's ruler, locking you out of marrying him to someone>battles ending in stack wipes even if it's 3 dudes vs 10000>unifiying the HRE causing a crash>the crash reporter not working when you try to submit a crash log>losing cores 1 tick into a new game (players reported this 1 minute after the patch)and so on, and so on. Look johan, i know you're scamming paradox by collecting 31 people's salary and lying about having a team there, but you could atleast PLAY THE GAME YOURSELF BEFORE RELEASING PATCHES AND UPDATES YOU FAGGOT NIGGER
>>2407718oh and let's not forget the dozens of cases of a modifier having a + when it should be a - and vise-versa. there's nobody at the helm in tinto. no testing. no code audit. nothing.
>>2407718>>2407719oh yeah or how about>making formables locks you out of DHEswhy did this happen? as "ryagi"(johan) said>lol we fucked up the flags, sorry!How the fuck does that even happen? im convinced its all being ran through an LLM which decides to change some shit at random, breaking shit that worked before and nobody should ever be touching.
>>2407054Because >the playerbase pisses and shits itself when facing the slightest inconvenience>its difficult to implement hard cap shortage bottlenecks in a way thats funIf you can just throw money and optimize a production chain around a shortage, that's funIf there's just no Lead available in your area and you're permacucked from using Printing workshops, that's not funShortages that are fun:>food (you can build infrastructure around it and eat the cost if you can't)>luxury products where you just get salty nobles if they don't get their choccy>Iron/Salt/Fibre Crops, basically anything where you can throw money at it to increase productionShortages that are not fun:>can't build this because there's no Tin in your marketplace>can't build this because there's no Marble in your marketplace>can't build this because there's no Lead in your marketplace>want to import it? enjoy navigating the trade UI lmaoThat said apparently the trade UI has been improved but I haven't tried it yet
>>2407718Ryagi and Johan don't answer my private messages, but for €100,000 a year I would be willing to work at Tinto as the guy who forces the devs to answer>how does this make the video game more fun?>what history is this helping simulate?before being allowed to make code monkeys work on any new mechanics. I think that this deal would save Paradox millions.
>>2407681dino x space aliens is the right of all sentient races
>>2407723>If there's just no Lead available in your area and you're permacucked from using Printing workshops, that's not funthats realistic tho
Does automated naval transport work for anyone? Every time I send my soldiers to a location that requires ship transport and it asks if I want to handle it automatically, I click "yes" and then just nothing happens as neither the boats nor my armies move.
ah another day of microing my pops, production efficiency, and development while reading blobber seethe on my second monitoryep, life is good
>>2407733The real kicker is that once you unlock the next age in a building you can no longer build the one from a previous age. So if you unlock printing workshops, you're permanently banned from building Scriptoriums.
>>2407760we cant allow the player to have productive clerics
>>2407681>Comparing those to two is like comparing dinosaurs to space aliens and thinking about how they could procreate. Ergo: it serves no point.God, why do they have to speak like such fucking faggots all the time?If you want to LARP as a victorian gentlemen then by all means use words like "ergo" unironically, but you can't combine that with quirk chungus similes that make you sound like an aging basedgoy who just got done wanking to star wars porn.
100 years of measles on the rhine
>>2407723>apparently the trade UI has been improved but I haven't tried it yetHas anyone used trade orders? I've tried to use them but the AI literally just seems to completely ignore them.But you can still manually make the trades, so they are possible, the AI literally just doesn't acknowledge them in any capacity. It's like they coded a UI for a mechanic that doesn't exist.
Does anyone know how to fix the stackwipe slop? I was trying to figure it out by browsing game files, but I did not find anything helpful.
>>2407775I have no idea how the disease panel works.What are these numbers?
>>24077811: total deaths from measles the entire game2: your population3: total immunity of your population to measles4: people in your country that have died to measles5: number of locations in the Measles Pandemic of 13676: number of people globally that have died in the Measles Pandemic of 13677: number of your population that have died in the Measles Pandemic of 1367
>>2407781The numbers don't functionally matter and if you can't intuitively understand them and draw enjoyment out of the numbers going up then you just don't need to look at that screen
>>2407775AIIIIIIIIIIIIE WHY ARE YOU BLOBBING????????????????????????
>>2407780Knowing the faggot del sverige that Johan is, it's probably hard coded. Much like the HRE unification crash, the bug is in the hard coded internal c++ logic files.
1. number of pops you directly lost to disease2,3. current pop, the graph shows the relation between the two (though it doesnt make as much sense since pops that died to disease in territory before you conquered it doesnt count)4. currently active diseases with numbers for how many pops you lost to the type (measles here) over the campaign + how many of them are currently active in your country (it should show off the total number of measles outbreaks but the game forgets about old diseases so its broken)5. number of affected countries6. global deaths to this particular outbreak7, country deaths to this outbreak
more pops dead to smallpox than two (2) plague outbreaks
The sandboxxie argument of "you shouldn't ever blob" would be slightly less retarded if there was literally anything to do in the game besides make formables (see: conquering) or achieve absurdly specific DHE conditions. Even krakow in vicky2 has more unique events and flavor than all of the top ten "unique content" tags in EU5.
The thing with blobbing is, there are so many locations and there is so little railroading that you need to blob even if all you want is to achieve historical borders and then keep playing tall.Sweden at the game start is already big, micromanaging all those locations is hard but if you want to form Scandi you will end up with like 3 or 4 times that many. Haven't played much as Poland but from what I know people usually just conquer Lithuania to form PLC. And don't even get me started on micromanaging your locations as Russia.Hell, even Holland into Netherlands requires you to "blob" because there are so many fucking locations
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/special-moderation-rules-for-eu5-eu5-is-not-part-of-the-europa-universalis-series.1923756/Kek which of you is this
>>2407681Hundred flowers campaign, kek.
>people are trying to dodge the rule about player number threads by talking about the reviews instead>shills and paradrones try to blame all negative reviews on the chineseso when is any and all negative feedback going to get banned?is johan gonna go full führer mode?
>>2407847Player numbers aren't negative feedback, neither is review numbers.
>>2407854Fucking hire real programmers and retire johan
>>2407854>
this post causes Johan and his butt buddies to explode into rage and beat their underage prostitutes btw
chat, i hate johan but i hate blobbers more, which side should i be on in this shitflinging contest?
Why do sandboxtroons try to depict railroadchads as blobbers? Is this their new discord marching orders?
>>2407809that isnt blobbing because it was historical and if you play a historical tall nation like england its okay to blob into india and the usa
EU5 has a negative migration attraction and the event where pops migrate to its rival fired and there are 100 players migrating to the EU4 province each month for the next 60 months until the location is left with 1.
>>2407877And I will be that one, you blobbing fuck.
>>2407880How many locations can you obtain through conquest and diplomacy in Europa Universalis 5 before you stop being 'Tall' and start being a 'Blob'?
Lord, they're making me open the folder again...
Eu4troons and sandboxxies are the same group.
if you take a single location that is outside of whatever your selected nation did historically, you are blobbingulm is forever limited to one province that you can manage the buildings in
>>24078821806 is a pretty casual date for a WC.
Ideal game is having perfect, aesthetic, historical borders and staring at the map, unchanging, while you build up inside those borders.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N69cQuAqgSgI will not be taking questions on this.
Notice how a single post of an EU4 WC completely kills the blobbers and they leave the thread, defeated. They are ashamed of what they are, they can't defend it. Sure, they can blindly attack EU5 for not being "fun", but when you expose them for what they are they shrink away.
>>2407890https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2pxGoxMVBs
>>2407899https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYquMmyFdow
>>2407890>>2407886Is the ultimate EU5 campaign playing Ulm as an OLM and building up a small German town for 500 years?>gsg evolved so far we became city builders again
>>2407900>>2407902>1 person once did a wc in eu5/victoria 2>this excuses 50% of the eu4 playerbase being wcs and 99% being blobbers
>>2407905
>>2407899I'm trans btw
what is blobbing
>>2407905The reason people don't do WC's in EU5 is because the game is too boring and the performance is too bad. It's not that it's too difficult, it's that people can't be arsed to press the buttons long enough.
>>2407918Most people also do not do WC's in EU4, or any other Paradox game for that matter.
>>2407904Ironically the original Ulm meme comes from someone doing just that. They solely expanded through vassals.
>>2407921This is blobbing.
eu3 invented the decentralized vassal meta.... vgh....
>>2407920Ye but content creators and challenge runners also don't want to bother
>>2407907The vast majority of people don't play ironman generally, and an even smaller percentage of WCs do.The fact even 2.2% of people do WCs is disgusting, let alone the fact the actual statistic is much higher.
>>2407933It's actually smaller since a good portion of those who have a WC achievement used an achievement unlocker or the console.
ulm
Unifying Spain is blobbing
>>2407936How much of a fucking loser do you have to be to unlock achievements for a grand strategy game?
>>2407944I don't understand why people do it, but it is fairly common. A simple Google search will show you various download sources for unlockers and YouTube videos with tens of thousands of views talking about how to unlock achievements using them.
>>2407943I unironically agree in the sense that if you start as Castile and unify the peninsula it should feel like an achievementInstead they had to force the AI not to accidentally eat portugal and granada still lives to 1600
spain can take all of this without blobbing but if they colonize a single location in the thirteen colonies it becomes a blob
>>2407955>spanish alaskaI sleep>spanish andorra!!!!BLOB ALARM!!!!
spain is historically a tall nation
>>24078815.
"blob" literally just means stuff i personally do not think a nation should take>russian tajikistanholy basederino>russian afghanistanPU who did a stinky>british nepalah based based>british tibetget this blobbing shit out of my face>french vietnamooh la la>french yunnanMERDE>ottoman sudana natural extension of their claim as caliph>ottoman ethiopianoo the heckin based christian niggerinos>scandinavian mecklenburgnecessary propagation of their baltic trade>scandinavian englandwtf it's not the viking era clean that shit upas always my opinions are objectively correct and anyone who disagrees or plays differently from me is wrong entirely unironically and will be spammed with wc images until they go back to /r/eu4 whence all blobbers came
reminder that consistent and continuous bullying, especially in the gaming world, 100% works in the long run.>>2407861THE RETARD OF CATALONIA
>>2407861this is what johan looks like when he (read: claude 3.7) is thinking hard about how to fix the game
>ai france makes parliament cb to take my capital>they dont have a land connection to it>they dont want a single location because too much antagonism
>>2408006dont worry when they make a peacedeal they will take a bunch of locations and then suffer more of a coalition that will never fire and will be weaker than them foreverthe best chance is that they either get memed on somehow during the early HYW or that eventually during their religious turmoil you can snipe them and fuck them up and cause the coalition to also attack them (they wont release anything of worth)
>>2408006based antiblob ai
Paradox's cardinal sin was soliciting feedback from jewtubers that just want the game to be a slop video farm
>>2408035but the game isnt what the youtubers want
>>2408036yes but johan compromised his vision by caving to them and in the result made a product that no one wants instead of one that only a dedicated audience wanted
>upgrade from 1.1.9 to 1.2.3>Crash on launching>Crash on main menu loading assets>Crashes loading a new game>Crashes when hoving over certain tooltipsEbin *reverts to a more stable yet shitty version*
>>2408037johan doesn't have a vision to compromise
>>2408040Why don't you try not playing on a potato.
So is the floor falling out on eu5 now?
Didn't realise this was an event. It's not listed in the DHE so I guess all Euros can get it.
>>2408075Probably just a dynamic version of Portugal getting Macao yeah
>>2408067Yes, EOS soon
>>2408087Evolution of Statecraft, the update that finally kills the game and forces Paradox to create Oldschool Europa in 2030?
>>2408067transitioning to a f2p gacha
Is this thread just two underage slavs dickriding eachothers crying about how the game is shit?
>>2408091WorseTwo underage indians
our lovely measles epidemic is still going strong 135 years in, now accompanied by a second one that happened to spawn in my country but apparently moved out without killing our peoplefrance is attacking again which is odd because they still dont want any land but they wont peace out for humiliation and money either so there is literally no deal i could offer themunfortunately i spent all our money building up the economy, making towns everywhere. german urban rights let you pave over everything and still get rural amounts of rgo size for anything mining relatedwill deal with this war tomorrow
1.3 when
>decide im gonna try an ISIS/caliphate run>it takes 40 years to integrate literally any provinceboy this sure is fun!
>>2408132Cry more, blobber.
>>2408132Yeah, it's pretty neat
>>2408125After you do an Ulmer world conquest.
>>2408132Go play eu4, blobber. I would actually prefer even longer integration times.
>>2408133>>2408143kys sandboxtroon
>>2408144>hates sandbox>plays a country with no flavor in a LITERAL sandbox
>>2408145>implying any country in eu5 has flavorlollmao
>>2408146I've played Russia, England and Ottomans, and I got sick of the dynamic events every year.But let me guess, if it's not a mission tree giving you free cores and modifiers it's not flavor, right?
>>2408148Very few mission trees in eu4 gave free cores.Usually it was a temporary mod that wasn't even game-breaking.As usual eu5fags exaggerate everything.
>>2408151Pulling up the EU4 wiki for Russia:First mission, rally the army, requires having 80% force limit.Gives claims on entire Russia region.Second mission, invade Novgorod, requires owning 15 provinces in Novgorod.Gives claims on Ruthenia.Third mission, conquer Ruthenia, requires owning 20 provinces in Ruthenia, gives claims in Poland.You were saying, blobtard?
>>2408153a perma claim isn't a core. try again chuddie.
>>2408153>>2408148You type like a tranny, sandboxxie
>>2408157lmao
>>2408159aww, mad you got called out for being a braindead blobberino?
>You can compare this game to its direct prequel, chuddie. Are these people serious?
>>2408163You can and I do. EU5 is much better because it has pops and doesn't have mana. It also discourages blobbing instesd of encourages it.
Uh oh sandboxxietroon is having another melty
>>2408168>marvel movies are good because they're popular
>>2408153Those are claims you absolute tard. Not cores.
In glad we have a historical sandbox where kyiv is the only power east of bohemiaI also like byzantines curbstomping ottomans every gameI also like portugal not existing past 1490I love bohemia annexing austriaI enjoy naples blobbing all of italy and taking time with no consequenceI like timur dying of old age at 32I like every single country being ran by randomly generated dynasties because all the historical ones die out in two generationsI like China being the hegemon of EuropeI like indians and Africans being given the exact same unit and ship types as EuropeansI like Japan being completely unplayable since launchI like AI written Tinto talksThis is a historical sandbox, chud. If you want the game to play out like history just go read a book lol
I don't understand what I'm meant to do about culture. If I expand, I'm going to have other cultures in my lands. I can improve my own culture's influence via art, but it seems to cap at a certain point because despite max art spending, my monthly cultural influence now goes down instead of up. Even with soft capped cultural influence, there is absolutely zero conversion happening in my lands, mainly due to being spiritualist, but pushing humanist early game is not feasible. I can accept one or two cultures, but that's it. I could tolerate more, but tolerating seems to do literally nothing so why would I? So I'm left with a bunch of unconvertable lands that are constantly rebelling against me, and if I make them all vassals, the vassals are disloyal because together they'd overpower me. It seems impossible to solve any way other than "never expand".
>>2408182Sorry chud this is a tall gameAlso you will hit building cap in 50 years so don't go too tall, that's like blobbing but upward! Do nothing and hope you'll get a 1% monthly proc for a painter DHE. Ahhhhh, the flavour!
>No cooldown on Enforce Landfriede:D
For a non meme answer to culture and conversion, you spam libraries (requires a town) to get your cultural influence up. It decays at 5% a month so no matter what you'll only ever build 20x your influence/tradition as a bank. Then you set YOUR opinion of the target culture to enemy, and accept that culture. This will give you cores on it after you integrate the conquered province for 30-40 years. Then when it's cored, you increase control with a wizard and then assimilate to your culture with another wizard. You do this until the target province has 50% of your primary culture in each spot, then you de-accept the target culture and you'll get back the -75% acceptance assimilation debuff.If this all sounds very fucking retarded, it's because it is. You have to integrate to core, and if you don't core you have a flat -10 assimilation malus. So you need to accept a culture you plan on killing off to get to the 50% threshold to then be able to flip it back to discriminated and call them properly.
>>2408182>I can improve my own culture's influence via art, but it seems to cap at a certain point because despite max art spending, my monthly cultural influence now goes down instead of up.Libraries, Universities. Also as you begin to blob into other cultures lands and eliminate their nations, their cultural tradition falls faster and faster.
Also, I'm going to autistically break down exactly what the cost of killing off a single culture is. Using bohemia as an example, to kill off silesian.First, this isn't going to include calculation for making their culture like yours, which requires you to have 25 favors with their dominant nation, or to have that dominant nation as a vassal. The cooldown on non-vassal is 10 years, and 50 years for a vassal. let's say that culture has a view of yours as "enemy" (see greek:bulgarian) that would mean 4 rounds of this. 40 years minimum for favor swapping, 200 years sitting on a vassal. But, let's ignore that retarded dogshit system entirely.First, integrate. 30 years probably early on because your cultural influence will never be much higher than their tradition until mid 1400s minimum. That's one wizard for each province. 30 years doing that instead of encouraging development or working on your sliders.Now it's integrated, great. But you need cores because the control malus and built in -10 assimilation malus. You better hope this pop has 2.5% of your total pop amount, or you can't accept it. Lol. So now you set your view of them to enemy. going from neutral to enemy is 20 prestige, going from discriminated to accepted is another 10 prestige.You then park two wizards on a single province, one assimilating, the other increasing control. This process can last 10-30+ years depending on how many of them [the pop you want gone] exist. Of course, once you hit the cap of control possible you'll then be microing your control wizard to other stuff and putting him back there every few years to ensure fast assimilation.Ok, now you've gone and afk'd for a couple hours, and you now have 50% of your primary in each location in this province. You can then remove the accepted status for 7-10 stability each level and 5 prestige, so another 10 prestige and 15-25 stability. But you still need a wizard there indefinitely if you want to have 70-90+% of that area as your pop
>>2408197because now that plurality of discriminated pops will tank the satisfaction which then hurts control, lel. so now you've got to leave that assimilation wizard until you're happy.and this is the bare minimum, for one province, for one small culture, of which there are dozens and dozens in any region.thats anywhere between 80+-250+ years depending on which culture and how many provinces, with 2 minimum wizards and preferably 3 on a cycle of micro and watching timers. It's fuckingretarded
>>2408186there is a cooldown but the ai ignores it, previously people would declare multiple wars in order to cheese past the cooldown however i have tested it and the AI emperor will enforce against you even if you declare a new war 1 month after having another forcibly peaced
>>2408197>>2408198Serious question, what is your issue with just keeping land integrated? Why must literally every tile be your core?
>>2408202In order for the line to go up as much as possible, the territory must become as integrated as it possibly can be.
>>2408202Because you hit a hard cap of being able to accept cultures. Even as a unified italy, you will hit the cap of 4 cultures if you accept every italic culture. this is why you want to just eliminate them. and integrated provinces have that -10 flat assimilation debuff, which means you can't do shit about them unless you get some serious buffs and park a wizard there for 50+ years.
>>2408181>and taking time with no consequence>timeI like phoneposters who forget to turn off their autocorrect
>>24082064 culture acceptance mana* sorry.
>>2408207you showed him xister!
>>2408205>>2408206But why? Why does everythinf have to be min-maxederino? Why can't you just accept you won't have optimal control modifiers over a place that isn't your culture and embrace it as part of the historical simulation?
>>2408211I'm trying to play tall so I need to min-max my provinces.
>>2408216Play tall in your own culture provinces. Keep the non-culture ones as a colonial periphery.
>>2408211Because with how slider costs work, having non-cores is worse than having anything at all
>>2408218I'm playing a nation that historically played tall (England)
>>2408224Then you shouldn't have to convert anyone.Accept the Scots. Highlands are a backwater so they don't matter.
>>2408223Slider costs are based on the wealth of the locations. Just build up in locations you have 66%+ control in and ignore locations you don't have control in.
>>2408202Cores are 400% as good as integrated land. It's extremely obvious why people want to core as much land as possible.
>>2408226Part of playing tall is making the most of the provinces I have available to me, so I have to be able to accept or convert every location in the isles to maximize productivity.
>>2408229And if it's below 66% control it's useless. Ergo, that's why you want cores. I didn't design the systems. I just play the hand that's dealt me.
>>2408232It's not economically profitable, but it can still have its uses. Armories, docks, wharfs, and training fields can still be built for generating soldiers/sailors. Also whatever goods are built there will still go to the market, where you can trade them for a profit or use them to to make better goods in your core.
>>2408231The highlands are never going to be worth shit due to their mountain terrain and distance from London, you don't need to bother coring them.
>>2408230But it isn't necessary to play the game. For me it's more fun to play with the self-imposed and realistic handicap of having different parts of your empire be different cultures.
>just handicap yourself bro, that's real fun!Lol sandboxxies are mentally ill
>play as england>accepting lowland scots is easy and frictionless as they already basically are the same as you>beating the highlands into submission is a multi-decade long affair requiring disproportionate involvement of the state due to the rugged terrain and objection of the nativescan someone tell me what part of this im supposed to be mad about? this is based, realistic, and historicalsorry eu4tards but the blobbing will STOP
>>2408239>i hate simulating history, i want a one faith one tag one culture wc any%
>>2408245>Eu5>Simulating historyOh yeah like mamluks and golden horde existing until 1800s kek
>>2408251So you want to make it even less historical by converting every single culture to yours?Least self-contradictory blobber.
>>2408238Building things isn't necessary to play the game either. Holding parliament isn't necessary to play the game. Assigning wizards to do anything isn't necessary. What is this argument that you're stupid on purpose yet everyone else needs to explain their actions?
>>2408253For me not being a min-maxxing fuck is vastly more entertaining than one faith one tag one culture wc every game. I'm sorry you lack the ability to immerse yourself in the game.
>>2408252I'm trans btw
>>2408255>Playing the game is le minmaxxing>Calls eu5 historical>Calls artist DHEs immersiveHoly shit it's actually johan
>>2408256Good for you, pal. Most blobbers are.
>>2408257Converting the entire world to your culture is min-maxxing, yes.EU5 is aiming to be historical, yes.Artist DHEs are immersive, yes.
>>2408255>Ask question>Get answer>Instantly start making up shit>Be a cuntHow do you not see what a pathetic loser you're being right now?
>>2408259>>2408258Hi johanPlease retire and let someone competent fix your game
>>2408260What exactly have I made up? You freely admit you want to culture convert everything to make it a core, if holding a mirror up to you being a blobbing fuck upsets you so much maybe consider the implications of that.
>>2408263I'm trans btw
why are you afraid to create large vassals? ireland and scotland weren't ruled by directly by england until near the end of the game.
>>2408262Please stop complaining you can't blob anymore. It's very tiresome. You can go back to EU4 if that's all you want, EU5 is for people who aspire to greater things.
>>2408264You're very brave for admitting that, now if you'll just admit you're a blobbing retard who is terminally butt bothered because he can't get his Ulm WC as fast as he can in EU4 you'll be free.
>>2408260You are responding to a baiter, why would you expect anything else?
>>2408268The only person being baited is me, by blobbers. But ultimately I win because EU5 will never be a game for blobbers no matter how much they cry and shit their pants.
240827024082672408266Sandboxxietroon having a stinky kek
wc in hell, blobtard
>>2408255playing tall is inherently a minmaxer playstyle
>>2408276Playing tall is mutually exclusive with blobbing out so much you need to culture convert other regions.
>>2408266>EU5 is for people who aspire to greater thingsMaybe if those greater things is to arbitrarily handicap yourself and play to obtain as few provinces as possible but also not maximize the use of that land available to you.
>>2408279No it isn't, what if I play tall around the Rhine and need to convert the Lorrain and Francien pops?
whoa settle down there chud, xhe might call you a blobber!
>>2408280Yes. As happened historically. Not treating it like a video game you need to get to the next level of.
>>2408282Seething, lmao. You hate what you are.
>>2408281You can accept those pops and stay within the cap. The cap is to prevent you blobbing.
>>2408283>Why is the video game in a series of video game adaptations of a board game about expansion allowing players to take territory and expand?>JOHAN SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>2408283ahhhh such flavor, such historicity!
i only play historically so i pick nations that died and when the year reaches when they were annexed i end the game
Playing as Lithuania, won the Teutonic crusade war and took a handful of locations from the Livonian order in the peace deal. Now what? My RGOs are shit and I have not been able to bounce my economy back to green 4 years after the war.
>>2408287hehe SLUTsk :D
>>2408286Why would I be calling for Johan to save me? He already has. It is you who need saving, now you have no way to blob.
>>2408287>Holy Roman EmpireStop blobbing, that was never a unified polity.
>>2408294its ok, johan hardcoded a crash in 1.2 when you unify the HRE, special for you!
>>2408287>scrolled right to not show the blob he's embarrassed about playingAbsolutely mindbroken.Blobbers not beating the self-hating allegations.
>>2408296i am just enjoying the FLAVOR of the game!
>>2408287>only 250 income>AS THE FUCKING UNIFIED HREhahahahahahahaha i couldn't play this poorly if i actively tried toblobbers truly are pathetic
>>2408298i cant hear you over all this FLAVOR
>>2408297>all of france>all of britain>257.47 incomehahahaha im going to post this every time you demand blobbing is made easier
>>2408299>half of fucking europe>the most profitable areas in the world>+104.88i am laughing in real life. Blobbers eternally BTFOd by themselves.
>>2408301do you be upset tho
>>2408302this kills the sandboxxietroon
>>2408303>fucking losing moneyI am upset because I just laughed so much I coughed and now my eyes are watering. Holy fucking shit. You are beyond parody.Do you even know how to open the building menu? Do you know what control is?PLEASE post more, I am begging you, I haven't laughed this hard in literal years.
>>2408304>he's expanding RGOs where he has no control nowOh god, my sides hurt.
>>2408308:))
Is the game good now ?
>>2408311>revealing he solely plays meme runsnever seen so much spaghetti spilt
>>2408310perfectly working game btw
>>2408313ill do a vlm world conquest just for you trannybro
>>2408314>losing money again>AS CASTILEAnon, I want to state categorically and unequivocally I am sorry for bullying you. I didn't realize you were unironically mentally challenged. You enjoy the game anyway you want, champ, it's okay.
>>2408316NTA but he is clearly reinforcing both navy and army and it's only few years into the game.I know you wanted to sound knowledgeable but it's not 1.1 patch anymore where money is just printed.
>>2408310That improves the value of the market and tax through estates and trading.
>>2408322He's just a dumb faggot who doesn't play the game
The gaslighting from the Johan loyalist in these threads is mind boggling even if unironic. All he does is shitting on people who play the game in ways he doesn't like and has never posted a single screenshot of him playing. Mindbroken by an objectively better 13 years old game.
>>2408327Or he's just shitposting.Why do you fucks always go such high drama.Its like you guys forgot where you are.
If you play EU5 do you have steez and, if so, why
>>2408335Merely pretending to be retarded doesn't really apply when he's been doing it consistently for 7 months
>>2408337Eh. I've been doing a run of Zelda 2 on the NES practically every day because it helps me not feel sick.If that guy likes shitposting, just ignore it.
>>2408339>Zelda 2 blobberGrim
>>2408347How do you blob in Zelda 2? Have I been playing it wrong?
Why can't blobbies, railroadchads, sandboxxies, just work together to make eu5 great again? It all feels so artificial....
I strongly urge PDX to stop focusing on inventing new mechanics. Instead, take the already overly complex game and streamline it properly. This will improve gameplay, make it easier for players to understand, require little development budget, and reduce CPU load. What's not to like? If the game were already years old with mountains of spaghetti code, I could understand the hesitation. But EU5 is still in its early stages! The right path is to cut redundant mechanics now. Miss this window, and a few years later when the code really does become a tangled mess, you won't be able to simplify it even if you want to.If you really want to add new mechanics, add more situations and more special international organizations. Even modders vibe-coding can write those – it's much easier than changing core mechanics. The workload is smaller, yet the variety of experiences and playstyles it offers to players is far greater. Neither players nor modders like frequent changes to the fundamental mechanics – it makes it harder to learn the game. But players also need novelty. Continuously releasing new situations and IOs provides a steady stream of new content, while avoiding the problem of players feeling lost because the basics keep changing. And the workload is small. Why not do it?I truly love Paradox games. I was ten years old when I first saw a screenshot of EU4 – I didn't even know what game it was, but I dreamed of one day being able to play it. When EU5 was announced with its exquisite mechanics and content, I was overjoyed. I really don't want to see it ruined. I truly hope it gets better and better. Sigh...
Can EUV DLC not be cream api'd?
>>2408362*sighs**shakes head in dismay*
>>2408355breaking everyones pots for rupees is blobbing
>>2408404But there are no pots or rupees in Zelda 2.
>>2407720>decompile the game>it's actually just one massive LLM running everything with no hardcoded game logic
So when do you think the game will be in a playable state? Holding out on buying for now
>>2408416As in neatly polished? 1-2 years or soIt's currently playable but there's a bunch of jank and bugs in the game that will obviously be fixed in the next year or so, so if you want a finished game you can hold off and pick it up on sale or something.
>>2408416It is only barely playable now. In the last patch trade didn't fundamentally work and every single nation had to be an autarky while also providing every imaginable resource to every single one of their markets and all of the markets nearby, because the AI can't click the build building button for shit. In this major patch trade works ALOT better but on the flipside when the patch dropped clicking any province dropped FPS to 1 and overall game performance was down by half. They've since fixed the 1FPS province/country bug but game assets load much slower, asset streaming is still broken, and overall the performance is still about half of what it was for no reason. Also there are a bunch of really questionable decisions like if your country is big you just take a massive penalty to research speed for no reason. And fun other stuff like that which was clearly designed by an LLM.
>>2408427>>2408420>>2408416Blobber seethe!
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/patch-1-2-4-out-now.1923830/>Patch comes out>Zero mention of the HRE unification crashThis semen slurping game isn't for me.
>>2408471>game actively punishes G*rman unification
>>2408471>still no swiss confederation fixI don't understand why they just don't fix it. Its a very simple fix.
>>2408471>no two sicilies fix
>>2408471this patch made my pop growth (towns and granaries everywhere) go up like 0.2%, up to 1% growth in my cities now
>>2408480johan fixed the game boys
>>2408471>Fixed Shinto AI countries committing Seppuku excessively.loled
>>2408483Its fine. Japan is still unplayable even with that fix.
>>2408486same vibes
Why did they make it so you run out of peasants like in Vicky 3?Even in vicky 3's timeline it is absurd to have so few peasants, EU V should end with the vast majority of your pops being peasants unless you are a small italian city state or something
BVLGAR BROS
>>2408487
>>2408490this guy's great lmao
>>2408499>BannedLmfaoIt's joever
>>2408500johan confirmed doesn't care that the hre is broken
>guy who doesn't give a fuck about pdx simps banned for screaming about an obvious bug which is ignored>BannedLmaoDeath to johan
I am now appealing to steam for a full refund :)
>>2408499Holy based
>>2408506It was me. I fixed kamikaze would work but those faggots don't recognize actual issues
It's ok got, maybe the Cruz of HRE politics (unification) will not crash your game in 1.3 :)))
Absolutely embarrassing company
>>2408499>>2408500>banned in <50 minutes after signupTime to speedrun paradox forum account bans
>>2408511It's almost like REPORTING CRASHES is anathema to the reddit nigger faggot forums. I post cuz it was IGNORED.
I pray every day that Johan gets ass cancer
>Mein Johan... the serfs are getting uppity over a bug causing the game to crash whenever you unify the HRE. They are spamming the forum, demanding a fix!>unifying the HRE? Nobody plays for that long, it's just one guy. Ban his ass and reign in the rest with evasive answersHonestly, I can respect that. They are openly shitting into their consoomers' mouths
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/tinto-talks-109-20th-of-may-2025.1923829/
>>2408526@grok summarize this
>>2408527The HRE crash is not fixed.
>>2408523Based. I just wish Johan was this honest
>PavÃa said:>A fix for it is already done for 1.3. The reason why it's not being picked into 1.2.4 is due to it being a bit tricky, so we prefer not to fumble and make proper testing with a bit more time available.Proper testing? What is that?
>>2408528BANNEDWE DO NOT DISCUSS HRE CRASHES
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/forming-hre-crashes-the-game.1922344/post-31289465Don't worry Anon, a literal outsourced jeet/AI agent has confirmed your bug is real! Please wait 3-6 months for a fix :)
>>2408530in house MP games where everyone plays the same nations
>>2408532praise vishnu for this development
>>2408532>Have system that worked in 1.1.9 and before>Break it>Don't acknowledge it's because of hard coded CPP files which got changed for no reasonLol
>>2408526>3 new mechanics, 2 reworked situations and a new disastersurely this will all be tested properly within the next week, and any lingering issues that the open beta testers report for free will be swiftly addressed before the full release
I don't give a fuck about uniting-the-hre-crash.I'm pissed cause they can't change one variable and fix the fucking swiss confederation.
>>2408539The swiss confed fuckuo is exactly the same as the HRE crash, though. They just don't check anything and let jeets change toggles.
>>2408539who would even want to play switzerland without an international credit mechanic and usury system in place?t. johan
1.3 will go live later this month, says Johan on 20/05, seven working days away from the next one.
>>2408540"They" meaning Johan, who is embezzling the studio and pretending anyone else works there
>>2408538There's an open beta so get to work, QA department ;)
>>2408545>Become>Submitted 50 bug reports>Not s single one (crashes) acknowledgedLol
But at least the tranny jannies of pdx banned me right? Who could imagine being told they ignore crash reports?
>>2408543>20/05There is no 5th day of the 20th month.
>>2408545I think they view open betas like prereleases, and they only begrudgingly let us have them. Last time beta tester reports got the same QAjeet reply and then ignore treatment as regular bug reports do.
>>2408550*Bans you for reporting unfixed crashes*
>>2408548godhan has imposed a new calendar system on his subjects in europe
Pdx forums are indistinguishable from reddit. Cock sucking retarded faggots and mods who will never ever let real criticism bleed through
I said a(the bug) b(where it occurs) and was banned because le redditors were mad about the presentation. Nah. Fuck this semen slurping studio
>>2408554don't worry someone made sure to ask if there's a bbc rework in this patch
Sometimes a retarded niggerfaggot dev studio needs to be told they are. Imagine living in a world where this doesn't exist(eu5)
EU5 is some of the most fun I’ve had in a paradox game in decades. I don’t get the hate. Maybe I’m too autistic tbqh
It's OK though, I will be spamming the paradox forums about HRE crashes from now :)
>>2408548stop using your disgusting measurements and adapt to the rest of the world, filthy new worlder
>>2408559Run event hre.102
>>2408562(User was banned for this post)
>>2408561The Nobles do not adapt to the peasants.It is pounds, not kilograms.It is feet, not meters.And it is Month/Day/Year, not whatever you eurofags use.
>new patch>new AI generated MTL Chinese mod with a waifu on the cover that reworks the entire game and makes it funHow do they keep doing it?
>>2408565booty blasted americuck lmao
is ai hiring insane amount of mercs for anyone else?georgia with 5k regulars and 20k levies hired 50k worth of mercs, wallachia with 14k levies hired 30kNo idea how they are affording it, it would cost me years of saving with 10x their eco
>>2408569Previous patch really increased the amount of money AI spends on mercs. It's really hard to gauge the power of a country now
>>2408569>Ai>EU5
>>2408569Every war is a deathwar now, they can't actually afford it
>>2408568Keep up, we are now mad about HRE unification
>>2408569that was supposed to be fixed in the previous patch kek lmao
>>2408574BANNED
>>2408569Do mercs actually use any pops or is there just an infinite pool of professional soldiers that can be summoned from the void to fight for you?
>>2408577They do through some arcane background system that steals your pop growth
>>2408577I'm pretty sure they use up the pops of the mercs themselves who are army based nations.I could be wrong tho.
>>2408577They drain pops from the area it says they're from and if you look at the locations individually it should says somewhere that you're losing pops with "Trying out their life as a mercenary"
>Location has zero proximity>Build road connecting it to capital>Location still has zero proximitySo why did I spend all that gold on the road?
>>2408581Lack of game knowledge
>>2408581>WHY IS THERE 0 PROXIMITY BETWEEN LISBON AND VLADIVOSTOK, I'VE BUILT A ROAD THERE AYYYYEEEEEE
Eu5 is the reddistest of reddit games. Us chuds don't matter
>We didn't want to take too much time away from 1.2.4 stuff. Won't be long till you can see yourself and give feedback on it anyway.No blogpost for 1.3 beta confirmed
>>2408577I thought mercs were just armies other nations leased out?
Hre unification fix NEVER
So when are they adding the Iberian Holy Orders back in?
>>2408588Lol
>All vassals stuck at 49.99 loyalty despite having max opinion of me>Small rebellion inside my own lands happens>All vassals flip to independent nations supporting that rebellionThis is such fucking bullshit.
>>2408592why aren't you maxxed diplo spending and supporting loyalists in your vassals?
>>2408593Because I don't have the money or diplomats to do that all the time. Why the fuck does being 0.01 under make them all get to become independent nations any time a tiny, two location rebellion breaks out and turn it into a war that will wreck my economy and manpower for decades to come?
https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1thy9ai/after_12_update_eu5_is_now_mostly_negative_on/You know it's bad when even reddit of all places turns on you.
>>2408595because it's realistic, CHUD
>>2408595I don't know if you ever tried playing as a subject but the moment you can create an independent faction you can invite the entirety of europe in it it's fucking dumb as shit
>>2408598That's not the only thing an AI programmer is taking a look at
Kiev
>>2408598Banned
Just remove complacency for fucks sakeHalf of this game's mechanics are redundant
>>2408604Declare a bogus war and give away 100 warscore worth of shit to someone and the revanchism will be like -1 complacency per month or something dumb
Clearly Johan just doesn't want input
Trust us bros
>>2408605>>2408604okay maybe not that much but peacing out of a coalition war you don't want to fight by offerring to get humiliated (43ws) is enough to get -0.08
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>2408607>we dont have proof but we saw promising resultsWhat the fuck?
>>2408604complacency is johan's pet mechanic, it's never getting removed nowyou should realize by now who's making this game
>>2408612Complacency is a good idea implemented poorly
>>2408607How's that possible lmaoWhat a bunch of clowns
>>2408613>good idea implemented poorlythat's most of EU5
>>2408613nah it was a bad idea johan cooked up in an afternoon when he saw that people were expanding more than he expected from his office mp experiences
>load up savegame>fog of war is disabled until i unpausewill they ever fix this?
>>2408464>lag is blobber seetheYou are brown.
Post the chad chat got banned
>fort has 15 men defending it>siege it with 56k>we would lose an assault>they hold out long enough for the ai to get new mercs and come kill me
>>2408672>we would lose an assaultit liespress the button lil bro
wat nou
>>2408684holy debt
>>2408686debtmaxing is how you win wars against countries 10 to 20x larger than you
how does assault combat function mechanically?
>>2408712You press the button and that captures the fort or as you may say this snibs the snab
*automates everything apart from armies**doesn't understand how proximity works**gets mad territory takes time to integrate**can't comprehend non-mana mechanics*wtf theres nothing to do in eu5 im going back to eu4
*stare at my 8 locations for 380 years**dont build over the building limit because that would be blobbing**assist my ally in a war**occupy a location**ally peaces out and gives me the land before i could transfer occupation**scream and tip over my desk because the game FORCED me to BLOB*
>>2408684Anon, get those noble taxes higher. With 100 stability they should be at 20% loyalty permanently.
>>2408752But unironically except I'd just release the land they gave me as a vassal and then give them independence.
>>2408736>>2408754.
>>2408759vgh
>>2408759lmao they actually got you to buy by putting this in the trailerget rugpulled, blobberino
>>2408759Wouldn't they have lost the Free City status
>>2408752>8 whole locationsCover those up you blobbing slut
>>2408764Der ewige blobtard just uses console to get his blob, an unlocker to get his cheevos, and a blacked subscription to get his cum out.
>black dick out of nowherequintessential america moment
notice how he doesn't even refute it, just gets upset it's brought up
>>2408684uhhh YIKES
>>2408759Europe is my city
This makes the simulationist piss and shit xemself in fear.
no it doesn't, all of that is reasonable chinese territory and not blobbing
>>2408781hve they colonized alaska yet
qin were blobbers
we've been over this, it is not possible for anything that is historical to be blobbing
they were blobbers in their own time
qing = simulationistming = blobbers
what if i re-reconquista, it was historical to conquer the peninsula
>>2408799Time isn't real
oder-neisse isn't blobbing for russia because>historical (held by warsaw pact)>aesthetic>have cultural claim through being unifier of slavs>follows natural geographybut taking east germany IS blobbing because>no cultural ties>unaesthetic>doesn't follow natural geographyalaska, despite being historical isn't allowed because i personally don't like the idea of a non-continuous russiaezo is also allowed as a presumed natural extension of russia winning the russo-japanese war
>>2408815why not the rest of manchuria and korea since that was also a goal of the empire
muscovy were playing tall
>>240836712 hours late but yes it can.
>>2408818It looks ugly on a map, but I guess you can puppet them.
>>2408821no italy or lowlands?
>>2408821that looks even uglier on the mapSpain should be focused in the med, not the new world tbdesu
>>2408785ACKSHUALLY this map doesn't make sense. It labeled only Qin in the red, but 475 BC is an arbitrary time when Sima Qian decides the warring states period had begun, and at that point the Qin state was weaker than it used to be. They reached a previous apogee under Duke Mu in the 600s BC. And they were originally enfoeffed in the 900s BC. And Qin were considered half barbarians anyway. If anything they were importing "Chinese" culture from the east. Qin itself was a product of Chinese expansion, they were a border march established by pushing out the Rong and Di, non-chinese barbarians.These are the precursors of Chinese states in 3000BC, chalcolithic material cultures with full blown cities including plumbing systems, rammed earth walls, systematic weapons production for armies, etc. (keep in mind this is 4000 years after Catalhoyuk and 2000 years after Uruk, so not out of the ordinary)A map of Chinese expansion would start in the yellow river valley, then bridge it with the yangzte river valley, slowly radiate out, expand in 316 BC when Qin conquered Bashu (sichuan), then explode around 200-100BC when Qin and Han conquered the south and southwest
>>2408822the boot is okay due to their united med heritage but the lowlands is illegal because it was due to dynastic shenanigans that wouldn't be replicated in game
>>2408832>5000 YEARS OF CIVILISATION>look inside>wang check gang
>>2408838UK really should have seized Alaska during the Crimean War
>>2408838what about portugal? do they get all their scattered ports in africa and asia?
>>2408838the player should work beyond the limitations of the game engine
>>2408598Rip France. They will make it so England wins 96% of the time and castrates France in the first war, easily winning subsequent wars
these are the non-blobbing borders for the netherlandsnorth eastern US is a natural extension of nieuw-amstoordäm if they colonized wellsame story in south africabelgium and flanders of coursehormuz is to represent them being a natural trade empireaustralia becuase they colonized that irlnew zealand because new zeeland... duh...all of japan is because of dejimastop telling me its blobbing because it isnt
>>2408853good. france should be made to suffer for ruining so many of my games.
>>2408855>>2408838>>2408821>>2408815literal map painting
non-blobbing Italy
>>2408843GREEN portugal (thats right none of that sjw blue) get this>>2408859somebody has to teach the blobbers what's allowed and what isn't
>>2408821You forgot that spanish Habsburgs held Portugese crown in Iberian Union
>>2406118>victoria 3 does economics betterNecroreply, but holy shit can people stop pretending that vic3 does ANYTHING right with their economy. All this time and it's still worse than vic 2
>>2408862Actually these are the borders for non-blobbing Italy.I would elaborate each and every point, but the seething blobboids persecute me so...
>>2408853usually even if england manages to win the first war (historically accurate) france just curbstomps them in subsequent ones
>>2408876kek
as the tteutonic oder it's your mission to eradicate the eastern heritics, so...
>>2408880vgh... esoteric xristian tengrism....
>>2408880Why do they have lands of modern day Russia and not just russian core lands?
>>2408871holy shit is that-
i reckon even the most left wing redit CÃœCK understands what blobbing is and isn't now so i'll stop...but remembers, if i see you posting your smarmy lgbt blobs in here again youll regret it
instructions unclear, took a location of an unaccepted culture and religion
>heritics
guess you want a lil more huh
>>2408908>no Theodoro
>>2408910discontinuous land gets a huge penalty in my calculation of what's blobbing and what isn't, the only real exceptions are colonies like port arthur
now poland is allowed to take all of russia because of this :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish-Lithuanian-Muscovite_Commonwealthand it ISN'T blobbingbut if they take finland it is blobbing
ethiopians can have all of egypt because of the copts and all of israel because they're beta israelbut if you take socotra its blobbing because that's arab land that they've never had any claim to, spurious or otherwise
you might be thinking "but these are all blobs!"but you'd be a retard because they all have legitimate claimsfor example if we take a country with no claims like korea taking ANY land outside of the peninsula is blobbingthe land they held in manchuria before the unification of the three kingdoms was too long ago to be a credible claim and only a blobber would try to use that logic to blob
but JAPAN can take korea with impunity, because that was their goal in the imjin waralso i guess you could take the philipines but i don't like it because theyre poor and brown so that's blobbing too
>HRE crash not acknowledged or fixedDead game
so now we know what blobbing ISNT let's look at what blobbing ISmorocco is blobbing because there is no feasible way spain would have been able to hold that territory in the early modern era, the most that is acceptable before it becomes blobbing is one or two port locations, like ceuta and melilia in real lifetaking random french territory is also blobbing, there is no logical explanation for why spain would have taken thisrandomly taking portuguese land is both unaesthetic and ahistorical, as such it is blobbinglook at north america as well, we see random colonizing with no historical or aesthetic value in north america, this is blobbingnow you know the difference between blobbing and not blobbing you can be more educated in your playing choices, have fun and as always, be ambitious!
>Sandboxxietroon posting some dogshit4000 players incoming
Boxxiebros.... Is this our game?
the game will not be pure until all the blobbers have goneif that requires the playcount reaching 1, me alone, it will be worth it
>>2408981>Non blobbing scotland>India
>>2408991that worthless northern Russia part absolutely is blobbing
>>24089981. Not worthless, it was an important trade connection for many countries, including Novgorod, England, and Sweden.2. As this is a Scandinavia that has subsumed rulership over the Finns then they naturally must extend to these areas both as a buffer zone against Russia and as they are the same language family. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uralic_languagesHungary would be blobbing though because it's landlocked. Northern Russia only gets a pass because it's contiguous and had trade links.>>2408996Scottish governors made up a majority of the administration in the British Raj.
>>2409004it looks like shit therefor it is blobbing
>>2408991vikings ruled the rus tribes so including all of the russian empire is not blobbing.
>Play Byz>Expand a bit into Serbian and Bulgarian lands>Create two vassals, one for Serbian culture lands and Bulgarian cultural lands>Somehow vassals combined are more powerful than me>Never loyal>Never pay me or help in wars>Have to increase diplo spending to make them loyal>Increased spending on loyalty leaves me no money to spend elsewhere, even causing me to have to lower army maintenance to nothing>Vassals just get stronger relative to me as a result>Constantly rebelling and calling in half the world to help them against me and keeping me poor paying for the tiniest bit of positive loyalty from them (which just lets them get stronger and me weaker, upping how much I need to pay to keep them loyal)So what the fuck am I meant to do here? Not have vassals in the first place? Not expand at all? Go over cultural limit accepting them all? There doesn't seem to be any option available to me other than to sit here in my starting territory and not do anything.
>>2409059>There doesn't seem to be any option available to me other than to sit here in my starting territory and not do anything.whats the problem?
>>2409059use multiple smaller vassals
>>2409059what is "a bit"?just take all your cores until you fix your economy then beat naples and sicily for greece.
>>2408312It's decent fun, especially as smaller tags or tall builds. Just like in EU4, starting as a major takes out half the fun of the game. Also like in EU4, all countries in a region are very samey and mostly differntiated by starting/location. At least different parts of the world feel pretty different. Basic gameplay loop of building up your country, expanding, beating rivals, integrating conquests, and repeat is fun as always. Having more levers to pull on in that regard makes the buildup a bit more interesting than in EU4, but the war system is highly mid.Diplomacy, IOs, Japan, etc. are all still broken to greater or lesser degrees. Documentation is terrible. RGOs, food, and goods demand really needs fine tuning, but can occasionally be engaging. Needing to suddenly fix a salt/iron/wood/coal ahortage to prevent your armies from imploding is pretty cool desu, albeit all too rare.To sum, scuffed but fun, but repeat playthroughs in the same region will feel very similar without self-imposed challenges
>>2408684Dissolve monasteries for gold.
>>2408488That is the game working as intended, actually. One of the most important trends of the 1400-1820 period in Europe (and to a lesser degree East Asia and India) was the increasing integration of rural workers and farmers into the market economy. In 1350, even in places like Italy, rural farmers generally focused on subsistence farming while perhaps growing a regionaly specialty for export. IE, a bunch of peasants with maybe 1-2 levels of RGO. By game end, there were basically no subsistence farmers at all in places like England. In game terms, that's a maxed out RGO with very few, if any peasants and some villages/basic resource buildings on the side.The part that's bad is that this process is basically finished by 1600 in most of Europe
>Johans game saving update drops (with no HRE unification fix)>Nobody cares>Thread diesLol
>>2409119Are you fucking retarded? Literally 90% of people in 1900 didn't live in cities. And the vast majority were subsistent and not a craftsman/laborer.
>>2409148
>>2409148even though that's objectively true that goes against the pro-urbanization communist propaganda they teach in college. You'll never get through to him even if you had a time machine to take him back to the eighteen and nineteen hundreds and even if you took him back to look at the cities he would tell you that not all cities were like that and even if you used your time machine to take him to every city in all of europe to prove to him that as late as 1900 there was near no urbanization and that it is a post-war world restructuring, he would completely shift the goalposts and tell you that it's actually a good thing and thank god the world came to sanity and shuttled him and his people into tiny urban housing where he produces nothing because otherwise everyday life would be unthinkable without receiving welfare from the welfare state controlling his every move at the expense of the workers in the countryside.
if you think about it towns and cities are blobbing
>>2409180this but unironically the nation next to ulm that's just an open fucking field with nobody in it is actually the optimal way of playing the game. First you have to get devastated by the black plague and make sure not to lock anything down so you can get down to 1 population and it's just you, the king of the field. That's the REAL playthrough. after 200 years I managed to build a house for my guy
lord lambert gooning to his ukraine gore collection imagining the victims are blobbers, playercount posters, and people who misgender rome as b*zantium
>>2409182It's such a shame how hard that guy fell off. It's weird to think he used to be associated with Arumba, his subsequent retardation has almost slightly sullied Saint Arumba's good name.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InuVJeTYdUQblobGODS we are so fucking back
>>2409148Maybe in Russia or any other Eastern European hellhole.Oh wait there was only Russia in Eastern Europe during that period period.
>>2409193VGHHH
>>2409193Wasn't this guy pushing against blobbing? why is he doing this.
Almost impossible to tell the difference between posts made by troons and posts made by thirdies these days. What does this mean?
>>2409088There's literally nothing fun with the current gameplay loop desuYou literally just spam buildings in Poopenfarten on the Rhine and win.
>>2409193>completely normal word>"I'm not gonna even try to pronounce that xD"Why are youtubers like this
>>2409119Wasnt there a lot of emigration at that time to the Americas ? If anything those countries couldnt even employ all the peasants they had.
haha.... im in danger
>>2409296Emigration to the Americas started ballooning in the 1800s with the peak being at the end of 1800s and early 1900s. Before 1800s most colonial immigration was from the actual colonial nations. I think from Sweden one fifth of the population left to America during the peak years.
>>2409326Jesus, why would you uglify the UI that much?
>>2409331swedish pops blobbed into the usa and the usa lost their cores
probably played a dozen austria games and the tyrol event has only happened to me once.
>>2409326>that Uiughh brother...ughhh
one thing i hate is that fur isnt 6-8 trade value
>>2409331>I think from Sweden one fifth of the population left to America during the peak years.ermmm but my middle school history teacher told me sweden wasn't relevant to the colonization history of america during my project!
>>2409326>that UIsovl.....
>>2409332its just glorp, what other ui is better?
>>2409379see >>2409381
>>2409381>what other ui is better?Unironically vanilla.Vanilla doesn't have all that garbage listed under the tabs in upper right.
>>2409383tell johan to increase the size of the bottom bar and I'll consider using vanilla
>>2409383Upper left i mean.
>>2409383its handy for quick reference. you havent played the game
>>2409388>you havent played the gameAh the retort always used by someone with no argument.
2409389fix the hre unification crash johan
No.
>>2409390Also not an argument.
its joever
>>2409400Still ugly.
>>2409400You have been raped.
>>2409326why is kyiv red
>>2409400thank god for ai logic
converted moscow to sunni
jesus lord this mod option is cracked lel
>>2409435NONONO NOT LIKE THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_qehhZUdswhy doesn't eu5 have anything as great as this in it
>>2409439we tried :(
>>2409443They replaced Waldetoft with ai
>>2409451I know in vanilla they have random events to declare war on bordering neighbours but I'm not sure how it interacts with the mod. Seems like kind of an oversight.Maybe if you live long enough there's an event chain for timmyxplosion somewhere
gentlemen... its been an honour
>>2409435>Timurids are outside our diplomatic range Johaaaaan fix your fucking game
pain.
>>2409435"diplomatic range is from capital to capital, nor border to border" is one of the weirdest imperator rome pieces of DNA they decided to keep
thank allah
1403 timmy
>>2409484meant to include
>>2409487>big hordelol
>With great pleasure we hereby announce the initial test-release of MEIOU and Taxes for Europa Universalis V.>This initial version is neither feature-complete nor bug-free, but we believe it is stable, fun, and offers a significant enough change in player-experience from Vanilla to warrant a test-release to be put out to the public. It is not a full release yet, but one distributed via this Discord server in a new area: M&T-EUV-testIt's fucking up
>>2409502MEIOU was the worst mod eu4 had.I assume it'll be the worst mod in eu5 too.
>>2409502so based, make the game even more tedious and run worse
>>2409512Johan literally destroyed the Europa Universalis franchise trying to do MEIOU but better.
Is EuV the only Paradox game where locations can be a net negative to your economy (and it's not a rare occurence)?
>>2409515Yes and? That doesn't change anything about what I said.
>>2409518It just says a lot about Paradox that their devs with much more resources and access to the engine can't outdo the modders they are explicitly trying to copy.
>>2409521Modders always 100% of the time do better than the devs.No exception. Any game.
>>2409523no middle managers, no retarded colleaguesbeing a competent dev on a project like eu5 must be infuriating
>>2409502what does it even do? they only put out one blog post in december and the whole game has been johan'd since then
>>2409517You get a tax and levy penalty when going over your domain limit in CK3 too.
>>2409541yeah but you can just make a vassal there, in EuV vassals debuff your crown power for whatever reason. There is no downside in Ck3
>>2409502>heavy bloat mod for a game already bloatedYIKESmiss me with that shii
>>2409296There wasn't a lot. Total emigration from Britain to America pre-1800 was only like 200k people total (100k of which were scotch-irish). Sailing ships just aren't very good at moving lots of people long distances
france attacked again, hre finally decided to defend us and we dunked on the frenchiesapparently losing 150k mercenaries (recruited from france and italy) still gives a ton of war exhaustion but our reward is lorraine and northern franche comte as vassals
>>2409570I hope you balkanize them and liberate a free and independent Occitania
*blobs*lets see if this deters the french from further attacks, they're down to 8.2 million pops from 10.5 million before they started messing with the rhinelevy casualties on our side are entirely by emperor saxony and their allies (like austria)the war cost us another 30k ducats as we dont have a standing army yet but the economy is booming and french war reparations do the resthonorable mention to our british ally who managed to mobilize 40k soldiers and didnt try occupying the undefended french posessions in england, preferring to walk in circles in kent while losing the naval war
I can't even tell if it's trolling anymore
>>2409564>Sailing ships just aren't very good at moving lots of people long distanceswhy are you minimizing the impact of slavery
>>2409674he said people
Really wish Paradox hired just one competent writer to go over the text in this game instead of having esl interns and llms handle it
>>2409711it is much better in catalanthe llm they used for translating isn't the best
I am again asking if the HRE is functional in this game yet
the HRE won't be functional until the DLC for it comes outyou're wasting your time
>spend $85 on a game>have more fun in ms paintgive it to me straight, bros, am i retarded?what the fuck do i do with the kongo
fuck Austria and fuck Landfrieden, can't protect the HRE from France but get uppity when I smack Holland around
>>2409793>the state is there to punish you, not to protect you>taxes ultimately make society worse>burghers solely have positive privilegesbros im starting to think johan's a libertarian...
>>2409753rwanda-burundi should be german anyway, just hand the rest of congo to sweden and maybe katanga to portugal
>>2409804I don't know, I think Congo looks shit without Katanga, I'm too used to historical borders.Good call on Rwanker though.
>>2409753omegablobbing
>When we set out to build Europa Universalis V, we had a clear ambition: create a deeper, more systemic simulation of the early modern world than had ever been attempted. What we didn't fully anticipate was how loudly and how helpfully our community would tell us where the gaps were. Development is always a conversation, but EU5 has made that conversation unusually direct, and I think the game is better for it.>From the moment the game launched, real players brought real hours and real frustration. The feedback that came back wasn't noise. It pointed at something genuine, that the richness of our new economic and population systems needed to be matched by an equivalent richness in the human layer of the game. People didn't just want a better simulation; they wanted to feel like their nation had a story worth telling.this is AI slop
>>2409793You need to make multiple CBs, declare a meaningless rival war to have the Emperor enforce on you and then you immediately declare your real war after that. That or just beat up the Emperor. I'm not sure if they count as a co-belligerent if they're called to the war via the Landfriede rejection so you may or may not be able to use it to get a 1v1 against the Emperor.
We need our own blobspeakIAB (Is A Blob)NAB (Not A Blob)
>>2409806Why give Romania Banat if you're going to make them take every other concession? Just to spite Serbia and give everyone something to talk about for the next hundred years?
>>2409816ai slop yes but the same as any other generic corporate speak slop
Do I press the funny button?
>>2409502WHERE IS THE LINK
>>2409731LOL
>>2409731Fuck no and they made it much worse.
>>2409822Both Serbian and Hungarian Banat look shit. But they should have Moldovia.
>>2409844woah BIG map change today guysmore playable game than eu5 btw, johan take notes his mappy hasn't crashed yet
>>2409844I'm hoping for a russian iranian war soon in your map how are you going to show occupation lines? stripes?
>>2409844sudeten-less Czechia (or Czechoslovakia, same stuff) looks dogshit
>discord wont let me make an acountPOSTTHEFUCKINGMEIOU5 LINK
meiou nerfed RGOs and pop growth, people here would shit themselves if this happened to the base game
>>2409857mega dot nz slash file slash I0NDFBAD#QgfeNQNTRZWAhqGQbGYxNBXj_n8IXOh4Uwg5eWdnbqE
>>2409847It even has a culture mapmode!>>2409849Wars never happen and borders never change, because everyone is happy living within their ideal state.>>2409854Yeah well, the German people must be unified.
>>2409866>hungarians and estonians are caucasian but finns, their most closely related ethnic group, are nothuh?
>>2409865>mega dot nz slash file slash I0NDFBAD#QgfeNQNTRZWAhqGQbGYxNBXj_n8IXOh4Uwg5eWdnbqE>3mbstop sending me dolphin porn
>>2409873You made me go and double check to make sure I didn't actually send dolphin porn F u buddy
>>2409830Is there no historical option? Can the ai flip memellenist even if I'm playing with historical ai? Jesus christ
>>2409877I thought the little historical booklet was on the far right side?
>>2409878I just checked the event viewer and it doesn't show a historical option there either
>>2409881Rip well a modder (me) can fix that thankfully. Can't say that for all the crashes they've added.
>>2409874mod doesn't load up for me. am i retarded? they changed how mods work in this v normal
>>2409890hahaha you actually downloaded the random file claiming to be meiou?
>>2409890They put the directory in a sub directory because someone was using the free and open source version of winrar, 7zip, which has this nice feature where if it's a directory and not a sub directory sometimes it just dumps thousands of files files out all into the desktop. So you need to take it out of that directory.
>>2409895Just unzip it in a folder?Are zoom zooms really this computer illiterate?
>>2409890>she doesn't know
>>2409877There´s an earlier event where you can exile Plethon which was historical IIRC. I just let him stay to see what would happen. Everything seems fine so far except my finances took a hit and my list of heirs shrunk severly. Polygamy will fix the latter though
>>2409897>erm actually if you've been using winrar for years like a non tranny and it autodetects if there's not a subdirectory and puts it in a folder that means that when you install 7zip so that you can extract tranny files that you should be expecting it when 10000 files dump directly into $home which is something that would never happen with functional software.You are mentally ill. Get help.
First substantial I've noticed about meiou is that you can't increase control with advisors, and second is that I have 52% max control in my capital. Bit scuffed
>>2409904>why yes, my file unzipper should make folders for me because i'm too incompetent and retarded to realize what unzipping means
Meiou isn't playable they somehow made it worse
>>2409908>52% max control in my capitalbased meiou btfoing blobbers
>>2409866Austria-Hungary is the only aesthetic solution to the Central European question. Bring it back and try again
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3730376911for steamies
>>2409916thanks I wasn't gonna bother
>>2409916>A return to form!>No mana>No broken national "ideas">No focus on MP cheese and antifun changes stemming from it>POPs!>Dense and crazy fun economic management a la Victoria 2>War is FUN, no "war fronts" BS a la Victoria 3>No bird mana to conquer the world a la EU4>This is a game made for pure grand strategy autists, and is made with tons of soul and love. Sure, the UI needs work, but what detailed strategy game hasn't had that issue in the past?>With AI tweaks and other bugs hammered out, this will be the best grand strategy game ever made. As of right now, i still consider it a 10/10>Johan won holy based
>>2409912>GDPyuck
>>2409912Okay, maybe I made the call too early. Month 2 I gained 5 ducats through... uh......Wait wtf? I don't have 5 ducats worth of goods in my whole land
>>2409923>>2409912I taxed 0.08 in Cassel my capital, 1.66 in Eschwege, 0.44 in Rotenburg, 0.39 in Melsungen, 0.08 in Frankenburg, 0.12 in Marburg, 0.18 in Alsfeld and 0.07 in Giessen. The other 0.84 is from minting. I see.
I'm selling food to SOMEONE right now idk how though.
>>2409831You have to join their pisscord. I think there's a link on the Paradox forums
>>2409929here you go fagethttps://files.catbox.moe/nnulu4.7z
>earning jack shit as fucking bohemia on the first tickthey made the game worse lol
>>2409932Cheers, and here is the changelog that they don't link anywhere I could findhttps://github.com/MEIOU-and-Taxes/MnT-EU5/blob/develop/Documentation/Change%20log.md
>>2409933I said exactly the same thing>>2409912it's just that the first tick is broken.
>>2409933wtf is with that graph
ok i guess it started working ?
Increase province control re-appeared after a few months for me, I guess it's just not available on the first tick for whatever reason.
>>2409936Ah thanks
>>2409943>no mixed colored puppetsYou can tell people you're not blobbing if you change the setting to be half and half
>>2409936surprised they didn't change the way cores work when they gutted assimilation
>>2409921this post is satire
>>2409936>Steal map’s antagonism bomb will not impact the robbed tag, but the discovered placeso natives will be butthurt i stole castile's maps of america? how does that make any sense
EU5 has mana:>Ducats>Prestige>Stability>Legitimacy>Religious Influence>Imperial Authority>Estate Satisfaction>Claude Tokens
I suspect the nobility estate is having some difficulty with what they are allowed to build...
>can't even spend on all my sliders as bohemiaGrim.
>>2409956>Not taxing the nobility presumably because you don't have enough crown power, nobles are at 76% loyalty, and they're STILL trying to coup you>you don't have enough money for fucking anythingHonestly I think legitimacy and stability sliders shouldn't even exist and should automatically go up over time for free as long as you're not doing crazy king bullshit.
>>2409830>>2409902well fuck, looks like the omens are paywaled, the meme run will have to wait until the DLC goes on sale. I mostly wanted it for putting slaves to work in RGOs beacuse I have such an oversupply, but they don´t seem to be going there. I guess Christ is, and shall remain, King
>>2409951Yeah?
>>2409956why are you spending money on diplo, retard?
>>2409967even if he drops his diplo spending to 0 I'm making more money than him as hesse with no towns no burgers and no trade on day 1 by selling salt
>>2409964managods keep winning
Time to play "What the fuck did the developers do to make my income drop by taking a gold province" MEIOU edition
>>2409967Emperorship
>>2409861pop growth is already raped in the regular game
>>2409946>You can tell people you're not blobbingWho the fuck cares?
so the meiou version is just >we turned RGOs into buildings who consoom 'land'>oh you cant build them outside their designated rgo provinces btw :]
>>2405581i've been wonderingif i play flanders of hollandand take the other over and form netherlands or any other situation like thatwill i inherit the unique events of the other nations who i absorbed?it would be nice to know if you're doing a brabant or flanders run to form the netherlands but don't want to lose all the unique eventsit seems like the do sometimes in my eyes but i want to be sure
>>2409979Trying to figure out what the fuck land is and where I find it, I'm not sure it affects anything, all I know is it's in surplus in the market.The RGO thing is clearly a technical limitation but because you can build fruit farms just about everywhere what it actually means is that many locations just don't have RGOs at all.
>>2409979>meiou is shit as usualThis is my shocked face.
>>2409980>will i inherit the unique events of the other nations who i absorbed?usually no
>>2409980Depends on the tags on the event, looking at Holland dhe, at a quick glance in the files it seems like most are both HOL and NED tags, which makes sense since Holland gets like 1 dhe that can even fire before 1400
>>2409988>Depends on the tags on the event>usually nowould be nice that if you form a bigger nation like germany or russia that city specific events and such still get dragged into the larger nation they are now part of and things in the same manner so i was thinking about it but couldn't get a proper answer anywhere
>meiou comes out>Nobody caresIt's unironically completely joever
>>2409981considering it's a common good, so the number available depends on the number of provinces in the market. they had to invent this because buildings cant function without an input good but obviously it doesnt make any sense
One of the things I was really hyped about back before the release was the fact that due to the nations having their own advances instead of national ideas forming the same formable as different countries would be different.But from what I understand, you just lose your potential future advances if you form a country too early, right? Also you are likely to miss events and with them unique content related to the tag. So much wasted potential
>>2409997you keep access to future advances tied to your old tag but you lose events (but you would also lose events the other way around if their timeframe has passed by the time you form it)it's all really not much different from eu4
>>2409997 techs can't have an OR logic appliedSmall 1.5 billion dollar indie studio please understand
>>2409997>you just lose your potential future advances if you form a country too early, rightNah, you keep those from every country you ever were. There's 4 tiers of countries and going from one tier to the next lets you keep all the advances from the previous tiers and sometimes the unique events too.
The Raped
kek new war screen broken. Old war screen was fine but they just had to put subjects under their respective nations and now nations that are at war with you and are subjects but do not have their overlord in the war just disappear. This happens alot with rebellions when you have a truce with the nation who was supporting your uprising or something, in this instance these guys were trying to defect to lithuania.I'm sure this somehow also makes colonial nations and makes them even worse not that anybody colonizes except that one guy who has his own war against chinese shills.
>>2410010i have literally never colonised in this game
>>2409994MEIOU was always shitty bloat, EU5 already has enough mechanics without bloating it up further.
I'm just stumbling from bug to bug to bug, they forgot that gold is something you can mine
>>2410010>not that anybody colonizes except that one guy who has his own war against chinese shills.what the fuck was meant by this
The biggest problem I'm seeing with MEIOU is that they removed the production efficiency of building a workshop near an RGO by removing RGOs so it makes sense to build every single building in your capital, and also, ONLY RGOs are profitable because there is absolutely no way to get a leg up over your neighbor on what you are producing because every good is sold to the market and then bought back again before you can sell it as a refined good, meaning if I build a jewelers guild in my gold province it does absolutely nothing whereas if I build it somewhere else the jewelers guild still does absolutely nothing because it has to buy the gold on the market and the value of gold is relatively high, whereas the value of jewelery is relatively low because there aren't any promoted POPs to buy the good jewelery. Why aren't there any promoted POPs you might ask? Because promoting your POPs is reliant on building burger buildings which are unprofitable.>>2410027lurk moar
>>2410038i post here every day for 10 hours a day and i have literally no idea what you're talking aboutwho the fuck are the chinese shills
>>2409936>someone asks for a link to the mod>anons scramble to upload because it's "only on discord">it's all on github right heremfw eu5zoomers can't even find the download button on github
>>2410044>github is indexed by googlek
>>2410046github is continuously scanned by copilotjust ask cortana to make meiou for you
>>2410046it is?
>>2410041>i post here every day for 10 hours a dayYet I've never seen you (AnonymousNo.2410041) here beforeQurious...
>>2410044meiou fags themselves said it was only on discord and didn't give any release notes update their forum thread or do anything else lol
>>2410050retard
I bloobed
>meiou removed 90% of unique advances from formableswut why
>emperor tries to enforce peace on me>he cant call his allies>i just peace out anyway but my war target gives up the emperors land to meget fucked
why does johan lie in changelogs. they literally didnt fix shit
How do you roll the Census parliament issue? It's just very rare?
noticed balliol wins the scottish civil war every time this patch.
>>2410118Ty thought I just got lucky and picked up scotland for free as england.
>>2410118Scotch*
>>2410118Why do they never put shit like this in the changelog?
>>2410118I only play on high aggression but see Scotland win every time, then get conquered by England within 100 years.
Jewbros.... We are SO back!https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3729382118
>>2410132>>2410138im playing on all default settings.just did an observer game and he won againwhat ever they changed with the military ai messes with sieges. balliol will beat scotland in the first battle and then lose the second and their whole army. scotland then splits their army and tries to siege sterling and edinburgh but they dont have enough to progress the siege. around 1342 balliol will raise just enough men to seige dunbar while scotland is still stuck and then siege a couple more provinces to win.
>>2410145Why is it so hard for them to make basic shit like the armies work?Every week we hear that the game is saved because some basic bitch feature from EU4 is being ported over. Why the fuck weren't these things in at release?
>>2410147retard
>>2410143pretty epic mod actually
>>2410177>bunch of op modifier slop epic...ly shit...
you've described the entire game
eu5 has mechanics outside of modifier slop though, unlike eu4
no it doesnt
damn, me btfod
everything is a modifierpopscontrolproximitysatsifactiondevelopmentprosperityrelationsthe list goes on
based autist hyper-rational black and white line of thinkingyes, eu4 core cost reduction and eu5 pops are both modifiersthe nuance you're missing is that one has been abstracted beyond all recognition, it no longer represents any tangible real life counterpartthe other is, while an abstraction made to work within the frame of the game, closer to the real life concept it is trying to ape
>cant form two sicilies because sicily "has presence" despite not existingI hate this fucking game sometimes
>playing with meme formables onreeeeeeeeeeee
>>2410215They might still exist as a building nation or something, says they have 150 troops somewhere, too, you need to find and disband those ghost units as well.
>>2410220lollmao
>>2410220How the fuck is he supposed to disband units of a nation that he isn't playing and doesn't exist?Buggy spaghetti code strikes again.
>>2410221Try reloading.
>>2410222There's ways with console. easiest way would be to spawn sicily in in an african nation, disband their troops, then annex them back into the african nation. I suspect what's happening though is he's experiencing the swiss confederation 'flipped conditional' bug that's been plaguing 1.2 because AI """Debugged""" the code.>>2410221Hover over that 725 manpower, see if you can find where they're getting it from it seems like they own a building somewhere still. They can raise 74 men, supposedly.
>>2410224Literally every dev team for Paradox games is releasing more and more broken stuff.Except CK3 I guess, but that game isn't complex enough to be broken. Maybe we'll see them break shit when they add trade.
>>2410225>Except CK3 I guessBroken on launch (multiplayer event holding and nothing working right) and has AI slop 3d generated models and we both know it. Maybe it's getting better but I don't play the game, I just tried it once.Tbf though every single company is going through this. Complex systems did not survive the competency crisis including pops, events, and game design.
>>2410227I don't play it either, I just know I don't hear their fans complaining about it.Then again, they are sims girlies, so they probably don't know what good game design is.
is there any point in building hospitals and pest houses? feels like they have very little impact if any at all.
>>2410255It keeps plagues from going to your other provinces or from decimating your neighbors primarily.
care for a spot of blobbing my dearies?
>>2410297No your antagonism is already too high.
why did blobber nations dominate?england blobbedfrance blobbedaustria blobbedcastille/lisbon blobbedprussia blobbedmuscovy b;obbedottomans blobbed
>>2410330purely socio-economic factors
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/why-does-this-3-year-old-have-boobs.1924279/>el catalANO
>Play VLM>Already have higher tax base than France>Merc up and defeat anyone in any warBORED
>Devs are very aware of how janky many new world things are for now. Especially the Andes (And climate issue with that).>Though disappointing to some, New world stuff is simply not high on priorities, for right now in any major way anyway. In the future we will of course come back to them and hopefully give the love they deserve! get cucked new worlders
>>2410225>Literally every dev team for Paradox games is releasing more and more broken stuffthey going all in on using AI to code their gamesi would bet their first call when debugging is to paste the defines text file and bug report into claude and ask it to fix the problem
>>2410349VAMN
Mayo and texas guys are doing a eu5 version, apparentlyCan't wait for a europa universalis game to be fixed by a mod AGAIN
Is there an event for Byz to change their religion? The ecumenical patriarchate has just been disbanded
>>2410375Yes
>>2410375used to be that they got an event where, no matter how well they were doing and if they had just conquered Rome, got an event to convert to catholicism for a paltry stab hit Do muslim countries still send missionaries to Christian countries?
why can i just hire 100000000 mercs
Getting religious influence as a Lutheran seems to take forever
>>2410375There was one since EU2 at least
I won a battle against Lithuania, a year later and their much smaller army stackwipes mine. Both armies were full levies with 1 or 2 professional units thrown in, the generals were on pair.The only difference was that my army had a bit less morale. This shit was supposed to be fixed but I guess the game is still dogshit
>>2410429forgot pic
>>2410429levies vs levies moral is the kingmaker.
Johan will have to find a creative way to limit the number of provinces and tags by about half
>>2410436yeah but there is no way this should be a damn stackwipeAlso, there is a cool CB to conquer the Golden Horde after the Tatar Yoke is gone, but I can't even create the CB due to the constant fucking rebellions. And the rebels have a big army so I have to wait for them to became less stable, but then another revolt happens and so on...
so as a Bank BBC I can just build banks everywhere and roll in dosh? can I get mercenaries later to become an actual state?
so my rival will guarantee my vassals independence, whatever that meansgoing to war with them doesnt cancel iti can however go 100% warscore on some random opm, force them to accept myself cancelling treaties with my rival which does cancel thathow the fuck does this make any sense johan
>>2410461can you still remove vassals by canceling treaties or did they fix that?
i'm really enjoying the changes from m&t
>>2410469forgot to mention that I'm trans, teehee
appears they fixed blobbing into the hre by giving the minor princes tonnes of money with nothing to invest in so they just save it all up and buy infinate mercs when they're attacked
>>2410469it's actually good? the changes looked fairly uninspired to me but maybe they combine into something nice
>Q&A thread deletedOh no no no no
>>2410330More resources > less resourcesWinning > losingWinning country with more resources -> blobs
>>2410538>said by person who implemented power creep in the first DLC
>>2410502WHY DIDNT YOU FIX THE HRE CRASH JOHAN
Power creep in DLCs is ok because you're deliberately choosing to play content designed as power fantasy for specific nations
Ottomans relegated to the cuck shed.I genuinely like that they designed content in EU5 to by partially tag-agnostic so that you can get a strong Turkish power that isn't the Ottomans. The problem, of course, is that even when it works it doesn't work, and the DLC has fucked the balance up even more.
>>2410581yeah, missions? railroading? nah it's so much better when every country plays the same, look! There is another shitskin country dominating Anatolia! It's also turkish but its colour and name are different!off yourself dumb nigger
>>2410587calm down son, it's just a drawing
>>2410581it's not really like that, the content is still tied to the TUR tag, whoever wins the rise of the turks just swaps over and if nobody wins the ottomans stay by default
>>2410581>I genuinely like that they designed content in EU5 to by partially tag-agnosticThey didn't. They did however design the rise of the turks specifically to allow which ever gets to be the strongest to just become basically the ottomans. It's probably the only content that is designed like that.
>>2410551I'm not Ryagi
>>2410581>Claudian Orderwhat the fuck is that
>>2410602The naming scheme for monastic orders, if you play a bishopric and change your law from clerical state to monastic order it just uses a scheme like that, like Prince-Bishopric of Cologne becomes the Colognian Order or whatever
>>2410613Are holy orders christian only?
>>2410602Tallfags and Ulm haters: avert ye gentle eyes.It's a theocracy that starts right by Geneva, I'm doing military order cheese into Switzerland. The idea is that the Swiss confederation's final event to diplomatically form Switzerland automatically changes your government according to the vote, which will near certainly be a republic for them. So instead of needing to push 95 plutocracy, I get to focus on aristocracy the whole time and become a republic anyway. And since my starting gov is temporary why not be a knigga and have France give me all the money I need to kill them? I even have special Swiss tech that makes mercenaries cheaperManaging antagonism and fighting coalition wars has been a hassle all game, but 30ish years ago now I finally reached a point where the coalition is too small and weak to declare on me. In the next decade or two I'll do a -75% conquer cost Take Down Hegemon war on France and really get blobbing. Sadly I spent all this time working centralization up for the crown power, but I'll need the subject loyalty boost from decentralized soon.
>>2410627this part sickens me, anon.
>>2410627spend your moneyalso how come your nobles arent hitlerifically strong with full aristocracy
Feels like I'm constantly waiting for this game to have ONE stable playable version.They keep "improving" it, whereby 5 things will be fixed, but also 2 more things will be so catastrophically broken in such a way that the entire game is rendered unplayable.Also, nation choice matters. Western Europe, Russia, and Ottomans are generally okay, but with any third world country or Japan you're taking your life in your hands every playthrough, and due to the epic atomized and balkanized internet we now surf on there's no way to compare with others if a specific country is broken without signing up to half a dozen different trooncords.I miss when it was just Victoria 2 on /gsg/ on /vg/. No game breaking updates, every country playable, you could ask in the thread and get a qrd on which countries are interesting and fun, the juice isn't worth the squeeze anymore, lads.
>>2410635Me too. They're filled with castles though, and taking all that land South-West of them was cheaper than making a single one of those subjects mine. Soon.>>2410638I'm trying, but they keep giving me more! I'm budgeting 25 to 30 thousand for the next war with France, maybe more if I need to extend mercenary contracts to siege down castles.I think people hand out way too many privs early game, which makes it so much harder to start taking them away. Get rid of the bad ones first and they'll be under your thumb all game, even after you give them privs that help you. I want to give my nobles two more +serfdom privs so I can do a big value push and then take all of them away, but will probably wait until I unlock a +serfdom law to do it all in one go.
>>2410662Did they improve the terrain map recently? Looks a lot less shit than it did before.
What happens if a Military Order changes religion? Do they just get downgraded to regular theocracy?
>>2410460>can I get mercenaries later to become an actual state?no
>>2410481France still blobs into the HRE unopposed it just means that minor states are more annoying for the player to conquer until you have an economy going, then you can just hire your own mercenaries and bribe the ones the enemy hires.
>>2410686because the coalition looks weaker than france to the ai so instead of killing france with mercs they wait until france attacks and that way france can just take whatever they want instead of being blocked by coalition cb
>>2410654You can just go to /gsg/, it's still victoria there.
>>2410696You don't understand, man./gsg/ used to be the place everyone who wasn't a faggot went.Now the only people who go to /gsg/ are themselves irony-poisoned faggots who still think they're fly doing the now decade old no-reply meme.EU5 was supposed to bring back the grand strategy community on 4chan and with it my now passed youth.
seethe
dadc
upvoted!
so true xister, what time do we start dilating?
>>2410676I think the world looks too shiny in the winter, but I've enjoyed looking at the map more this campaign. Troops walking into mountain tiles and trapping themselves there for the winter sucks though.>>2410678The military order government reform blocks you from changing your official religion, so you have to change that before going Lutheran or such. I'm not sure if you can become a mil order if you're not Catholic.My roleplay is to go from being the Pope's top guy as a military order (allied them, got cathedrals, Cardinal seats, helped them in the Western schism), then become a reformed republic and turn on the Pope. Part of me wants to go Calvinist because it's ostensibly a Swiss run, but I also want to paint the religion map a nice solid color. If I play it long enough to form Europa I'll start larping power to the people and bring about Luther's Kingdom of God, pretending that I didn't run Universal Serfdom for the last few hundred years.
>>2410727>The military order government reform blocks you from changing your official religiondamn, there goes my dream of going full jihadist
>>2410727
>>2410727is it even realistic that troops in the 1500s would get trapped in mountains for 4 months
>>2410711I think you will fit right in considering the off topic shitposting
>>2410752>discussing eu5 is off-topic>in the eu5 general
>>2410740Looking up the actual history just shows you how unrealistic EU5 really is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvRpClANzDA&t=820In real life Spain moved into the Swiss mountains and occupied some forts there, to connect their Italian and Dutch holdings.The French realized this was going to give the Habsburgs an even greater power in Europe, and so allied with Italian states and also moved troops into the Swiss mountains.The Papacy tried to be an arbiter between the two sides and eventually after a few brief scuffles in the mountains both sides went home with a compromise peace deal.In the game the Papal states would have to be on one side or another, instantly getting terrible relations with the country it was at war with and excommunicating them, the war between France and Spain would not be minor skirmishes in the Alps between hundreds of troops but total war across the Pyrenees with hundreds of thousands of troops until the other side was completely occupied.
>>2410765this is impossible to accurately simulate
>>2410740Yes and no. Yes in the sense that if you actually lead an army into the mountains in the middle of winter then yes you could very well get trapped and decimated. It's not all that common for armies to stay put the entire winter in towns or villages even in fairer terrain, let alone attempt some mountaineering. You could obviously break trough with the core of the forces but casualties could be extreme in the attempt due to weather, supplies and enemy action. No in the sense that obviously generals would not actually do that because it's suicidal.Mechanically it has to be like this because it's better that it just outright blocks access because that's less punishing than ordering a march across the alps by accident and seeing everyone die but also because it leads to more interesting gameplay. The actual fault of the mechanic is that the game doesn't communicate to you the information in an effective manner. You can't for instance have an army "avoid" mountain passes that would freeze up at the time the army would be there automatically nor does the game give you sort of a warning that this could happen if you choose this route. Nor does the game give the actual option to break the army out by force for instance or let a well supplied army march trough in the home territory where supplies and routes could realistically be arranged ahead of time. Like there's no reason why an army can't march along a road from well supplied fort to a fort in the winter even in the mountains.
>>2410654/vst/ certified fun starts:>Byz>Ottomemes>Persian minorsAvoid at all costs>Japan>China>new worldPersonally I also had fun as Austria, Tibet and an OLM in Madagascar
>>2410771Which Persian nations are the most fun?
>>2410766HoI4 has already has mechanics for two nations being able to have a battle in a single province without a formal state of war existing between them for almost a decade at this point.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9JT5vUrMKw&t=311You would just have this as a diplomatic option and the "border conflict" province in question would be Switzerland.At the end of the year whoever controlled the territory would get it.Would be good to add this for the Italian wars as well, to stop France and Spain, again, duking it out over the Pyrenees.I don't know why Paradox don't implement this in every game. The alternative is how it currently is, with every war being a total war.
Babe wake up, new EU5 mottos just dropped.
>>2410783Hoi has the benefit of these being limited to very specific situations and a map with a fraction of playable tagsIf you implemented something like this in EU5 then the performance would get even worse or the player would be able to heavily abuse it
>>2410766It's not, every area should have its own local situation where the key players and involved parties and local dynamics can be played out
>>2410767>The actual fault of the mechanic is that the game doesn't communicate to you the information in an effective manner. You can't for instance have an army "avoid" mountain passes that would freeze up at the time the army would be there automatically nor does the game give you sort of a warning that this could happen if you choose this route.In my experience you get fucked by it precisely once and then never move your army into a mountain after september ever againI don't think the game needs such explicit handholding. It would be pretty annoying to have the entire alps be covered in "uh oh scawy" icons for a third of the fucking game because of something that people learn intuitively on their literal first playthrough.I feel this is a problem generally for the raised on EU4/CK3/V3/HoI4 generation, needing literally every piece of information to be spoon fed to them constantly. Yes, there are things that will catch you out when you first play the game, but why is that considered a bad thing? Part of getting better at the game is being able to navigate these things yourself without having to be told by the game exactly what will happen if you do things.What's next, every time you go to build a building it says "Warning: Building too many of this type may cause inputs to become expensive and outputs to become cheap, leading to unprofitability!"?
>>2410797You could easily achieve 90% of that by just adding a limited war CB where as soon as you cause 10% casualties of their pre war strength you auto peace for the wargoal or warreps if you lose or something to that nature. You really could add multiple of these like province/region/area war where all of the conquests warscore is generated from the target area but you can only take from the target area in a peace deal etc. No performance impact from these things.
>>2410802>that people learn intuitively on their literal first playthrough.You can "learn it intuitively" but you still have to avoid it the entire game. As soon as you learn it which is easily done it stops being interesting mechanic and becomes an annoying land mine that triggers precisely where it's most annoying e.g. easy mop up wars where you task your armies to do stuff easy and quick and then you notice the auto rout lead them into a mountain and now you have to wait half a year. You could just as easily say that auto routing itself is hand holding, why does the game even let you move an army from X to Y trough 50 provinces with one click when it could just as well force you to go province by province. Quality of life features are actually good it turns out.
>>2410797>If you implemented something like this in EU5 then the performance would get even worse Well given the historical examples are of great powers using it (France, Spain) then just solely limit it to them? So for example, Muscovy could start a border war over the Donbass with Kyiv, but Ulm couldn't start one with shitburg-pisstein. A handful of tags deciding whether or not they want a border war surely wouldn't tank performance unless EU5 was coded by braindead retards.>or the player would be able to heavily abuse itThe player is always going to abuse everything, it's not like this would be particularly exploitable. In this scenario, for example, a player Spain starting a border skirmish with the Spanish in Northern Italy would still mean you had to beat the French army in northern Italy.Maybe I can convince them to do it if I make a forum account and tell them it'll be more fun in their MP games.
>>2410807>As soon as you learn it which is easily done it stops being interesting mechanicEh, it adds a nice tactical element, I think.If your army hasn't regained its manpower yet and the enemy is sieging your mountain fort and it's October you can either choose:>go in before you're fully reinforced and potentially lose>risk waiting until spring when they might have already taken the fortOr, another scenario>it's august and you want to get from anatolia to tehran>do you risk going now and getting stuck in the mountains or wait a whole fucking 9 months until it'll be safe to crossDon't get me wrong, it's hardly tactical mastermind shit, but I still think it's a neat little mechanic and I'd rather have it than not.
>>2410802Smoking on that pure Johanium I see
>>2410816EU5 is the best game Paradox has ever put out. Just because it's a broken buggy mess doesn't mean it can't be fixed up to greatness.No amount of seething manaoids spamming player numbers will deter me from believing!
>>2410814>Eh, it adds a nice tactical element, I think.It doesn't do that. A mechanic where the core challenge is to be diligent enough to not be trapped is not a good mechanic for a strategy game. Again this is why things like armies auto avoid mountains that could trap them would be good. Because when I command an army to move from A to B neither which are mountains I don't care what route it takes I just want it to get there, which it being stuck hinders. The solution is to check every single tile in between and make sure that none of them are mountains which is tedius busy work and does not prove your mastery of the game or it's mechanics in any way. This should be avoided in a strategy game. >enemy is sieging your mountain fort and it's October you can either choose:See how this is completely different scenario. There's gameplay here, which is what the mechanic is actually achieving which I specifically praised it for earlier. It's the idle consequences of it which are bad. Adding quality of life doesn't detract from this decision or scenario in any way. >Or, another scenarioAgain I already addressed this. If you have a specific goal of going somewhere and there's no option then yes deciding if you want to risk it or not is good gameplay which is what I said was good thing about the mountains but that's not what I was talking about. If you are spending the effort to take a conscious decision on the path you take then you can also do the same and click on the button that disables auto avoiding mountains. Adding quality of life doesn't detract from this decision or scenario in any way. >I'd rather have it than not.Adding quality of life features doesn't remove the feature. You can still build mountain forts. You can still lure enemies into traps, you can still take risks on which paths to take in mountainous regions. This is such a low reading comprehension take if you think I was advocating for removing the feature.
Jeast obvious johan sangriaposting:
>>2410807it's hilarious that the game has a banner that tells you that you are in fact playing euv, and a banner that tells you that you've disabled this incredibly helpful piece of ui, but no banner that says DANGER, UNITS ARRIVING IN ALPS ON OCTOBER 1
>NOOOO PLEASE DON'T REVIEW BOMB MY GAME>I'LL FUCKING SUCK YOUR DICK>YOU WANT ME TO EAT YOUR SHIT? I'LL EAT YOUR FUCKING SHIT
>>2410821>You think EU5 is bad? Heh...>Actually, EVERY Paradox game is bad!>That's how I know that they'll make EU5 good someday
Why do EU4troons lose it when you say pops will always be a better mechanic than mana?
>>2410831>>Actually, EVERY Paradox game is bad!this but unironically
>>2410831I would say every Paradox game other than EU3, Victoria 2, DH, HoI3, Imperator 2.0, and EU5 are bad, actually.Pick a single one of these games to defend, you'll find none of them are good:>fart events 3>manasalis snore>industry game with no actual stockpiled goods>bing bing wahoo ww2 played solely by troon modders
>>2410827I think an appropriate comparison to a well done version of this is navies taking attrition when out in the sea. There's an adequate warning when it's happening and you can still do daring voyages it if you choose for tactical or strategic reasons. They even bother telling you if the navy is frozen over and can't move even if there's nothing you can actually DO about that (which is more realistic than armies being blocked since you could still force march them out with massive casualties, you can't unfreeze the baltic sea). Imagine how shit the naval movement system would be if navies just silently died when out on the sea. To reflect on what the other guy said sure you would "learn" to not do it after the first fleet magically sinks but it would piss you off an be extra tedius precisely when you want to deal with it the most e.g. routing movements of navies. The "solution" of monitoring each fleet as it moves to make sure it doesn't randomly start dying is not difficult but it would be extremely bad for the game. The downside of this is that the only reason the game has this is because EU4 had it.
chat who the hell pinged the /gsg/ vickyslopper
>>2410823>things like armies auto avoid mountains that could trap them would be good.I'm 100% averse to the game playing for you because you're too retarded to play it. Maybe what you're suggesting would be a good thing for the AI, but in my opinion if you walk into the Alps in the middle of December and then are surprised you have supply issues it's your own damn fault for being bad at the game.>tedius busy workLmao, so I suppose we should go to a Victoria 3 style army system where you have no control over units at all?sybau, not even reading the rest
>>2410840>I'm 100% averse to the game playing for you because you're too retarded to play it.Poor reading comprehension the post.
>>2410841Explain any other way to interpret>armies auto avoid mountainsother than>waah why should i have to not march my army through the alps in winter?
>>2410845I already did, your reading comprehension is simply terrible and you are likely retarded too.
>>2410840>I'm 100% averse to the game playing for you because you're too retarded to play it.Post your current trades screen. No cropping the UI to hide the fact you've never made it past 1400. Come on, let's all admire the hours you've spent optimizing hundreds of trade capacity across half a dozen markets.
>>2410846At least I'm not so retarded I can't shift click around mountains in the winter.
>>2410848Trades aren't designed to be manually performed, armies are. Nice try though.
>>2410849Poor reading comprehension the post.
>>2410851At least I'm not so retarded I can't shift click around mountains in the winter.
>>2410850Vast majority of army movement is entirely automated, you are supposed to click A to B and everything routs correctly and just works. You aren't supposed to micro them province by province except when it really counts. The comparison to trades that guy made is entirely accurate on that front, that is to say you lost.
>>2410858>Vast majority of army movement is entirely automatedI'm used to moving my armies from Moscow to Vladivostok in HoI3 and them not going on the (much faster) trans-siberian railroad and instead having to manually shift click their path the entire way so they'd strategically redeploy in a timely fashion.I haven't played much of the newer games because they're God awful, so if they've made it so it automatically picks the fastest path then I wouldn't know. Like I said, I'm not used to handholding.
>>2410868>comments on a game he admits that he doesn't know basic mechanics offat least you outed yourself as a retard quickly /gsg/ is that way btw.
>>2410850>Trading has a button to turn automation on or off>Clearly not designed to be performed manually>Armies have an entire screen listing different choices on how you would like their movement to be automated at the moment>Clearly designed to be performed manuallyOk
>>2410858Perhaps there should be a mission to deploy an army to a region with smart pathing. Then right click movements could be considered to be tactical movements where you are allowed to make stupid mistakes. It would be nice if this were combined with naval transports being less clunky.
>>2410873He dodged your challenge because he hasn't actually played EU5 past 1400 or interacted with the trade or army movement for that matter. He got filtered too fast I suppose.
>>2410872I'm sorry I'm not a zoomer who demands the devs code everything around me being braindead. In my day you played a game, the game didn't play you.
>>2410874Other way around, good UI design always makes the most common thing the most easy to access which means right click has to be for the normal movement and additional buttons (like you know the toggle to avoid frozen mountains) as an separate option.
>>2410873>eu5 ui is shitWoah, breaking news.>>2410877Congrats, you got the (You) you've been waiting for this whole time, now go ahead and tell me more about how you play with manual trade and automatic armies.
>>2410880But you are braindead with the way you handle basic reading comprehension tasks so any game you play has to be coded for braindead retards.
>>2410881It wouldn't be a toggle, that's not what I suggested at all.
>>2410883At least I'm not so retarded I can't shift click around mountains in the winter.
>>2410882weak
>>2410885>It wouldn't be a toggleJust an example, you suggested "mission" but that's extra clicks over right clicking which is bad which is why it should be the other way around because you will be doing lot more moving from A to B in inconsequential manner than you will be handling careful maneuvers.>>2410888Bad reading comprehension again.
>>2410890At least I'm not so retarded I can't shift click around mountains in the winter.
lmao imagine if this retard actually got what he wanted>right click to go from milan to munich>3 second lag while the game figures out the probability of winter happening in every single province along the way based on the approximate time of the year, time of arrival in the next province, time of departure for that province, time of arrival in the next province, etc, etc>moving troops from moscow to vladivostok>game crashes>all because he's too fucking lazy to shift click around the mountains
>>2410899>3 second lag while the game figuresThe game already does all of these calculations, the only thing it doesn't do is check for mountains which you can bet the AI movement actually does check for because it kinda has to. As bad as the performance is the effect of automatically avoiding mountains would in fact not crash the game or even significantly add to the calculations. Also just because you got blown out you don't have to fall back to quoteless /gsg/ posting.
>>2410899a competent programmer could add this feature very cheaply. therefore you're right it's impossible for pdx to implement
>>2410899this website is anonymous, friend. you can slink off quietly once you've been BTFO. no need to embarrass yourself more
>>2410901>the game does the calculations for all provinces on a pathNo it doesn't, it does it on a per location basis. i:e, it does one location at a time, not all locations at once.What you're suggesting would require it to do all the locations at once though, because it's unable to dynamically change the path once it's started.It also isn't as simple as "just avoid mountains", mountains are only locked in winter, which is dynamic, so the game would have to calculate a chance possibility of each and every location whether or not it would be winter when it got there.Just shift click, you lazy fuck.
>>2410905Poor reading comprehension and poor understanding of the game mechanics which is not surprising since usually reading comprehension comes first.
>>2410904>propose the most retarded shit ever>get calmly told why it's a bad idea>act like it was an argument>act like you won said argumentso this is the logic of someone too retarded to use shift clicking... fascinating..
>>2410913you did get blown out pretty hard desu
dijkstra's rolling over in his grave rn
turkslayer won
>Ulm
>>2410836ck2, march of the eagles, eu2, hoi2the list goes on
It's time to stop getting mad and just let it go. This game will never ne good.
reading eu4troon seethe on reddit is at least funny but here's it's just sadwhy would you come to the eu5 general specifically to say how mad you are the game isn't a manafest?
for me the biggest problem with eu5 is how long it takes to playin eu4 you could finish a game in a few daysin eu5 it takes more than a week
>>2410973I think it'll eventually be good.Eu4 took many years and several DLC to be good.
>>2410988>eu4>good>ever
>>2410991Eu4 is very fun. You are shitty at b8.
One of the things I was most excited for in the run up to EU5 releasing was them getting rid of the retarded cap on relations you could have with other states, I wanted to be a puppet master of all of Europe.Then EU5 released and it turns out all vassals are permanently disloyal due to the equally retarded "power relative to overlord" modifier, and that they're even hardcoded to declare war on you perpetually in the last age.Killed my hype pretty good, desu.
>>2410992>fab claim>fight war>wait for manpower to refill>repeatsuch fun
>>2410992Not if you enjoy playing tall and don't just want a map painter.
>>2410997>build buildings>wait for them to complete>build more buildings>repeatsuch fun
>>2410999Playing tall works way better in eu4 than it does in eu5.
>>2411000glad you agree.
>>2408870How so? Victoria 3 economy is vastly better than V2. For one thing, steel actually matters. For another, there aren't random global shortages.
>>2411001Please elaborate what on Earth you mean by that.
>>2411004You can't play tall in eu5. At all.You can play tall in eu4. Easily.
>>2408870I think there's been a mass gaslighting about vic3 because almost everyone who tried it dropped it immediately and never came back. So if someone says "it got better it's perfect now" nobody can disprove them since nobody's playing it. >victoria 3 does economy better, do you play it?>no, do you?>noAnd though EU5's player count took longer to fall, this may be a glimpse into its future. Perhaps a year from now, everyone will say EU5 is objectively the best and it's in such a better state etc etc and it'll be sitting at 5k players
>>2411006That's just reiterating what you said, elaborate upon it.
>>2411007>people who don't play things don't like them>people who do play things do like themabsolutely astounding find, thanks for this
I think there's been a mass gaslighting about vtubers because almost everyone who watched them dropped them immediately and never came back. So if someone says "they got better they're watchable now" nobody can disprove them since nobody's watching them.>vtubers are interesting now, do you watch them?>no, do you?>noAnd though vtuber's viewcount took longer to fall, this may be a glimpse into their future. Perhaps a year from now, everyone will say vtubers are objectively the best and they're in such a better state etc etc and it'll be sitting at 5k views
>>2411009In eu4 you can easily stand against large powers when playing tall (like as Prussia).In eu5, you can't stand against large powers like France unless you are just as big.
>>2411013Any nation with enough money/manpower to build a few heavy cavalry professional stacks can stand against any power in the entire worldthe whole HYW as England is like this, France is bigger and stronger than you from day 1 but you can press the cavalry button and the AI uses levies so you win
>>2411015Does England have any manpower at start? I thought you had to wait for armories, do they get special buildings like Holy orders and Clans?
>>2411015The problem is unless you are large you can't afford those professional troops.
>>2411012even vtubers abandoned eu5
>>2411018>spam 100 buildings in your capital>each one makes 1 ducat>50% tax rate means 50 ducatsThat's in a single location with buildings alone. That's not counting RGOs, trade, and the fact that you almost certainly will have more than a single location.
>>2411016that guy has never played the game
>>2411020How are you going to spam 100 buildings in your capital without the money to make them?
>>2411020You've never played the game. First of all, not every capital is a city. Second of all, you need demand to make the buildings profitable. If you keep overbuilding Luxury Cloth with barely any development in your market you are just losing money. >50% tax rateagain, you've never played the game.
>>2411016They have the Sergeantry like everyone else. It supports some cavalry stacks since they're so small, that's enough to win battles
>>2411022Most countries start with a decent enough economy to get the ball rolling, but you can always pump inflation and loans like Byzantium has too if you're a shithole.At any rate, once the ball has started rolling as any country it doesn't stop. Money expounds upon money exponentially, to the point where once you've urbanized a few provinces you end up with more money than you can spend.
>>2411027>Most countries start with a decent enough economy to get the ball rollingNo they don't.You've never played the game.
>>2411021>>2411025>>2411028>have you never played the game?>no, have you?>noholy shit... it's already begun....
>>2411025>First of all, not every capital is a city. In the event you don't have a single town the "promote urbanization" parliament agenda, which gives you a free town, has a vastly increased frequency. It's how people do meme runs as Greenland.>Second of all, you need demand to make the buildings profitable. If you keep overbuilding Luxury Cloth with barely any development in your market you are just losing money.Provided you are in range of a major market chain, like Europe, China, or India, you will always have somewhere to sell your shit to.>>50% tax rate50% tax rate is more than achievable once you've cucked your estate power enough. Black death usually kills enough nobles to reduce their power low enough to get 50% when combined with the favor the wealthy law.>again, you've never played the game.Why is this your default response to everyone explaining game mechanics to you?
>>2411029You're talking about playing tall but the only places with good enough economy at the very beginning are already big and aren't playing tall.
>>2411028You think England doesn't start with a good enough economy to build a building?
>>2411034England is not playing tall you moron.
>>2411036I'm not talking about playing tall, the original discussion was beating France as a smaller country.England is smaller than France.
>>2411038>England is smaller than France.No it isn't. You've never looked at a map.
>>2411038>the original discussion was beating France as a smaller countryNo it wasn't. The original discussion was about you can't play tall in eu5. Follow the line of conversation you stupid newfag.
This discussion reminds me of that guy who played a "tall" prussia with half the world vassalized.
>>2411031I'm talking about cities, not towns. If you want to spam 100+ buildings in a single location as a small nation you would have to heavily overbuild and you can't afford that early game as a small country>Provided you are in range of a major market chain, like Europe, China, or India, you will always have somewhere to sell your shit to.For barely any profit, if any, also whatever the fuck they did to the AI this patch causes it to aggresively trade, nuking the prices of stuff you potentialy wanted to build, such as Luxury ClothAlso, if you are a small country that doesn't start with a market center, you can't even rely on that>50% tax rate is more than achievable once you've cucked your estate power enoughtell me at what time that happens. Age, year, whatever
>>2411040>No it wasn't. The original discussion was about you can't play tall in eu5.See: >>2411013>In eu5, you can't stand against large powers like France unless you are just as big.>>2411043Overbuilding really doesn't matter. All it does is give a migration debuff. If you really care about that you can always build a second town when your first one is full.>tell me at what time that happens. Age, year, whateverI said it in the very next line. You get the favor the wealthy law for +10% noble tax, you push communalism to make it cost effective to revoke their privileges, and the loss of power from a good number of them dying in the black death. You can also get the "curtail the nobility" law for another 10% noble tax.I fucked up though, because it isn't favor the wealthy, that's for burgher tax, it's favor the elites that gives +10% noble tax.
>>2411047>In eu5, you can't stand against large powers like France unless you are just as big.France was an example of a large power that you cannot defeat while "playing tall" in eu5.Use your damn brain. The conversation was about playing tall.
>>2411049No it wasn't, see the next two posts:>>2411015>the whole HYW as England is like this, France is bigger and stronger than you from day 1 but you can press the cavalry button and the AI uses levies so you win>>2411018>The problem is unless you are large you can't afford those professional troops.REALLY bad play to try to go the memoryhole route when the conversation is just a few turns of the scroll wheel above us.Or in your case a few swipes of your phone screen.
reckon johan's latest tactic is to make /eu5/ as shit as possible through inane arguments so we're forced to actually play his game
>>2411052You're retarded.The conversation was about playing tall and the fact that you can't play tall in eu5.You are the one that made it about France.Now fuck off.You still haven't played the game.
>>2411053just started a tall england campaign and balliol won again.
>>2411057You can't play tall as england.Playing tall requires you to be small.
>>2411058who said? all playing tall means is you dont expand.
>>2411059>all playing tall means is you dont expandWrong.
>>2411056Even if we give you the benefit of the doubt and say this conversation was never about England (which it obviously was, as the prime example of a smaller country that is an antagonist to France) and instead say it was about Holland, the same shit applies to them. You urbanize all your shit, spam armories, and then easily BTFO their levy hordes with your heavy cav regulars.Except not because they made it so you can't expand in the HRE anymore due to Landfriede, so you can never get enough locations to build enough armories.
>>2411060we need johan's input to finally answer this era defining question
>>2411041thats tall
>2411061You're an idiot. I'm done talking to you.
>>2411049>France was an example of a large power that you cannot defeat while "playing tall" in eu5.you can beat anyone in the game when you play tall just spam mercs and delete their gay levies when they attack your forts
>>2411063no it isnt.
>>2410973The game could be good if we could convince Johan to pull his head out of his ass. That's why it's such a frustrating state of affairs.
>>2411065And how are you gonna afford those mercs? You have no money when small and no way to get lots of money when small.
>>2411061>you can't expand in the HRE anymore due to LandfriedeYou can, you just need to use 2 CBs and declare a pointless war first that the Emperor enforces on you, then you fight your real war when the action is on cooldown. Also you can exploit the Landfriede to steal land from the Emperor if you're near them by quickly getting a good amount of warscore from battles against your CB target and then using a peace with them after the Emperor joins the war to take it since they will be very willing to hand you land given your high warscore, their low levies and them being sieged.
>>2411068you play tall for like 100 years and then youre making infinite money
>>2411066playing tall doesnt mean you cant vassalize other nations
>>2411071>Oh just play for 100 years and then you can beat anyone!Dumbest advice anyone has ever given here.How do you stop some large neighbor from killing you in those 100 years?
>>2411073yes it does.
>>2411047You are moving the goalpost, you've said that any country that can afford a few cav units can defeat france or any other nation but then when asked about getting the money for that you talk about getting 50% tax which isnt possible early on. Also spamming urban buildings leads to them losing profit, fast urbanization isnt a money printer early gameSeeing your other posts makes it clear you talk about the game through the lens of shitposters
>>2411069Yeah, I know you can, I just think it's retarded that you have to use an annoying workaround "exploit" like that. Especially considering all CBs in the HRE have to be parliament CBs, so you have to get 100% parliament support.
>>2411074if youre holland you wont be dead to france in 100 years. sorry that you cant play an irrelevant OLM that borders france/austria/ottomans etc >>2411075provide a definition of playing tall supported by the tall playing council with citations for every point and established convention via previous AARs
>>2411078>if youre holland you wont be dead to france in 100 yearsYeah you'll be dead in 5 years when they attack Hainut.
>>2411077You can use an enemy/rival CB or use a reconquest.
>>2411078*cums on your face*there's your council.
>>2411079nuh uh
>>2411084Every Holland game I've ever tried was ended when France attacks Hainut and takes like 50-70% of my land in the peace deal.
>>2411076>you talk about getting 50% tax which isnt possible early on. What are we defining as "early on?" You can't get 50% tax in the first 10 years, no. But you easily can in the first 100 years, which I would still define as the early game, considering it lasts 5 times that long. But I'm an autist who plays until 1836.>Also spamming urban buildings leads to them losing profitIt really doesn't. Some buildings are just never unprofitable in standard play. Spinners guilds are one example, due to the fact they can use both fibre crops and wool (which there is always a surplus of) and the output is naturally worth more, even if you devalue it it'll never be worth as little as the inputs, ergo always profitable. And obviously the same applies to luxury cloth once you have built enough spinners guilds. >fast urbanization isnt a money printer early gameGranted it isn't as good until you get the paper/book/university and tannery/weaponsmith/armory military industrial complex going, but it's still more profitable than rural provinces, especially considering you can spam towns around your capital where you have high control whereas RGOs are just where ever they are.>Seeing your other posts makes it clear you talk about the game through the lens of shitpostersI don't know what is meant by this. I've played the game extensively. If I'm saying the same thing as shitposters it's because they've played the game as well. The economy loop isn't too complex once you've understood the mechanics behind it.
>>2411090>But I'm an autist who plays until 1836how many hours does that take you?
>>2410872I'm trans btw
>>2411031You haven't played the game
>>2411092A hell of a lot, and that's despite speed 7ing 90% of the time.
EU5 was good on launch, is good now, and will always be good.Manashitters, blobbers, casuals, zoomers, and redditors stay losing.
>>2411109>EU5 was good on launch, is good now, and will always be goodThis is the most cope post I've ever seen.Eu5 has more bugs than any other paradox game ever. Entire regions of the game are completely unplayable due to bugs.
>>2411110A sandwich with stale bread is still better than eating shit.
>>2411111Checked.Or you could play eu4 and have a hoagie.
>>2411111If I paid money for a sandwich with stale bread I'd expect a refund.
how do i motivate myself to play this shiti enjoy it but hate actually loading the game up, selecting a country, and sorting the starting set up out
>shill eu5 for months before release>get cast to play john universalis in the trailer>game comes out>never play it ever againlmaohow did laith get away with it
Chat would this be blobbing?
>>2411142Aren't you just uniting the french culture group?
>>2411142>play as french minor>btfo france>become franceFor what purpose?
>>2411144nobody can say he's a pussy. Plus it's a more fun campaign and your development is centered somewhere different and, iirc, the culture he's playing is in both the french and german culture groups. There's some big upsides to that late game.
>>2411144Saving France from the French.
>>2411142Unite Occitannia and establish a strong Breton Kingdom.Balkanize the rest of the north
>Friday night>5k playersIt's unironically over. Johan is getting fired
>>2411164>friday nightPeople go out on Friday night. They don't sit at home playing map painting games.I just got home from playing d&d with friends
>>2411164blob more, manashitteryou are NEVER getting your wc sim back
Ok I'm in the mood for a new game.Someone suggest a country to play as and a goal.
manchu to qingand then blogpost it so i know how to do it without getting memed on
>>2411170Form Bavaria as any Bavarian minor and be the economic backbone of the empire. Play tall while you lower the price of every good in the empire while embargoing France, Hungary, Russia, and any other applicable heretics heathens or enemies of the empire. Your goal is to cause the HRE nations to expand and blob while not being allied to any nations by late game.In the current patch it seems necessary to become the emperor to prevent landfriede so nations can get big btw.
>>2411173That'd be real epic if any HRE nation apart from Bohemia ever did anything.
>>2411173Who are bavarian minors?And I will play tall despite the fact that you cannot play tall in eu5.
>>2411173I'm currently naples letting Italy minors blob so I can take their land for less war score because of control.
>>2411176>you cannot play tall in eu5.how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man
>>2411177Based Itakim run.
>>2411178*Estates max out your RGOs, roads, and capital building slots in 10 years*Wow such tallness!
>>2411178What lesson. I proved earlier that you cannot play tall.
>>2411181Is this conversation in the thread with us now?
>>2411182You haven't played the game
>>2411182Scroll up retard.
>>2411180>blobs until 90% of his land has no control>all that wealth goes to estates>complains that they spend itMaybe next time you'll actually play tall, blobbershitter.
>>2411183>>2411185Seething manashitting blobbers.
>>2411186>NOOOO YOU CANT ACHIEVE FORMABLES THATS BLOBBINGGGGGG!!!
>>2411187>>2411186Hi johanFid the HRE unification crash
>>2411173Ok I'm in nation select. Which tags do you classify as Bavarian minors?
>>2411188But unironically.
Why are formables a thing if Johan wanted a sandbox simulation. They are basically railroading you
>>2411190There is no non-blobbing reason for forming the HRE.WAD.
>>2411194What if you do nothing but be the emperor, defend the holy imperial territory integrity, and unify it purely through parliament? Is that blobbing?
>>2411195But you didn't do that, manashitter. See: >>2408297Blob in hell.
>>2411196>Unifying the HRE diplomatically THEY VOTED TO JOIN
>>2411173Hurry up and tell me which country to play faggot.>>2411191
>>2411197The divine spark of tall play is imbued only in humans. The AI and blobbers are incapable of understanding it.
>>2411198Ulm
>>2411198Come on, man, you know you've got to do Ulm.
>>2411200Ulm is not a bavarian minor.
>>2411203He can be if you flip to Bavarian culture
>>2411198+1 for ulm
>>2411203Then culture convert them.Ulm muss größer sein!
>>2411198>>2411203Do it or no balls.
>>2411208Fine fine. We'll play Um. What is the goal?
>>2411210WC.
>>2411210Ryukyu
>>2411210Colonize Mexico and convert to Nahuatl.
>>2411211>>2411212Fuck you both. Give me a real goal or I'm out.
>>2411214Literally become Bavarian and thenunify the hre
>>2411216That is something i can work towards.
>>2411214Unify the HRE.
>>2411217Post gameplay faggot
>>2411222I literally just started. And being a free city, there's not much gameplay to post.
>>2411224POST IT
With some mods HRE minors are impossible without event CBs. Haven't played in meiou but probably the same. If in vanilla you can just nocb . Get food for your province asap(the southwest country)
>>2411226I allied Toggenburg to the south but every relation eats up a massive amount of my diplo cap.Otherwise I'm letting time pass because I can't afford to do anything.
>>2411230Plappenfallen to the southwest has a food rgo that you should 100% prioritize
>>2411231Is this plappenfallen in the room with us right now?
>>2411232Sorry I don't know the names of 20km squared territory in random germoid territory
>>2411233Neither do I but I'm not seeing any real good food rgo nearby. I see a lot of the normal central europe ones.
>>2411234You just need the one that is in your actual province with you so you don't have to buy food.
>>2411142>Paradox worships AI so much they added a Claude nation into their game as an easter egg
>>2411234I'm phonefagging but there's an in province adjacent food RGO. Unless vanilla is different
>>2411237No there is. The location to the west has sturdy grains rgo.
>>2411235Basically what this non says. I only mention it because provincial bonuses are better than non prov. Means you get more out of it early in because food expense should be positive
Something has happened! Some fuck wants us to join some city league thing.What's our answer?
>>2411240You get rejected because the event is bugged
>>2411240Fyi the other option gives +10 prestige and -50 opinion with Some Fuck.
>>2411241Wait, what now? I've never played a free city before.
Last time I played ulm I was automatically rejected by Lubeck in the event chain no matter the relation. Did Johans Claude instance accidentally fix it?
What should we build first when we have the money?RGO? Tailor's Guild?
>>2411246RGOs. Markets are a net loser
This is what it looks like if we try to attack the location to the west with sturdy grains.
>>2411245Last time I played Zurich I never got rejected, but that was back at launch so idk
>>2410997yes.
>>2411111>food analogy
We have expanded rgo once and we are basically making double the money we used to!Also I don't feel strong enough to attack that guy with the grains.
>3 ingame years at speed 7 to build a building that makes your balance go from 0 to 1That's peak gameplay right there
In 1346. Nice game Johan.
>>2411272Seethe more, blobbing fuck.>>2411265Build a spinners guild with the fiber crop production method. You'll get a production efficiency bonus for producing it in the same province.
>>2411250Build a city guard in your capital so you can hire regulars and build a heavy cavalry regiment. It'll easily BTFO everyone else.
>>2411280There's already one in Ulm but i will build more.
>>2411281I don't think I can afford a heavy cav regiment. And I won't be able to even recruit for a very long time given the price.
>>2411280Blobbers own your ass, Johan.
>>2411283Just spam spinners guilds and fine cloth to max and you'll soon be able to afford one.
>>2411286Yeah that doesn't actually work.
>>2411287His income went from +0.23 to +1.38 with a single rgo increase, you stupid blobber.
>>2411246Grant city rights, top left corner, under "Swabian Jura".I believe free cities get unique powerful ones.
>>2411290You don't play the game.
>>2411290I'm the one doing Ulm and building spinner and fine cloth shops isn't gonna skyrocket me to 250 gold for a horse regiment.Not to mention, the plague just went through and I don't have the people to staff my own shit.
>>2411292Did that. But the urban right doesn't look like anything amazing.
>>2411290You haven't played the game
>gets mad at people modifier stacking in eu4 for>NOOOOOOOOOO WHY AREN'T YOU USING YOU HECKING PRODUCTION MODIFERINOS WHEN BUILDING IN 5 THAT'S HECKIN UNOPTIMIZERINO
>>2411297I'm trans btw
>>2411297You play the game.
>>2411297What the actual fuck are you talking about you fucking schizo?
A lot of things in this general suddenly make sense when you realize that most posters that aggressively justify this game's retarded design choices and will disregard complainers as whiny blobbers are underpaid Tinto employees that don't play single player games.
>>2411305Stfu nerd
>>2411294Click on the spinner's guild and show profit per level.
>>2411305>most postersThere's like 2 of these guys max, maybe some gsg invaders on top. Literally filter "blob" and you will get rid of pretty much exclusively troll posts.
>>2411305si senor o algo
>>2411309It keeps wanting to use wool.
>>2411313BuildMoreRgos
>>2411314I don't have the laborers to staff them.
>>2411313Set it to fiber crop and then hit the lock symbol to lock the production method.Also, show profit of the tailor's guild.
>>2411315They'll promote in time. Getting that timer started is important
>>2411310>anyone who disagrees with me being a manaslurping wc cheevo hunter is a trollYou're right, /gsg/ bussed me in and the Russian government is paying me to call you a faggot.
>max out RGOs>fully employ your population in crop fields>finally make money>the Poopenfarten coof epidemic of 1367 fucking kills 3/4 of your entire population >it will take at least until the 1800s for your pops to replenish Epic gameplay
>>2411316Tailor's Guild shows profit of 0.04 per level.
>>2411322tears running down this eu4shitters face rn
>>2411323Based but you need market access
>>2411324Tears of laughter, yes.
>>2411325Market access is 82%. That's not bad.
>>2411323That's the tax income you get, actual wealth increase is +0.19, which admittedly is shit but may be UI fuckery.At any rate, you should aim to switch to favor the wealthy law via parliament ASAP, for +10% burgher tax.
>>2411327Nurenburg?
>>2411327Spam loans, nocb the market leader, hire mercs to BTFO them, then in the peace deal take their money and move market capital to Ulm.But make sure you launch a distraction war to get landfrieded on first, otherwise your nocb against the market leader will be cancelled.
>>2411330Yeah. Pic related if you are the fuck that needs proof.
>>2411326>aaaaaaah save me eu4 someone is actually playing the game instead of automating everything!
>>2411334Make your own
>>2411336Why would I make my own market when I have 82% market access?Also tell me where I'm gonna get the 300 dollars?
>>2411332is there really any point to doing this when koln and praha eat up a large amount of the old market anyway?
>>2411336That'd be prohibitively expensive with 82% access.
>Enter into any war past the 1450s in the HRE>Every participant is hiring 15-50k mercenariesBORED
>>2411337Cuz even as an opm you will have trade drom20-49 locations
if you play tall in eu5 you literally wind up with more money that you could possibly spend on anything
>>2411335lmaoing at @this schizo's posts
>>2411341Uh huh. And the other half of the question?
>waste ducats to increase your profits by 0.05 ducats and make a return by 150 years
>>2411344You gotta do austerity, bro
>>2411335The game literally encourages you to automatically everything. You're not following Johan's vision by not automating shit.
>>2411338Market access effects input and output of goods from buildings. You see here >>2411313 he uses 0.82 wool to make 0.90 cloth, that should be 1 wool to make 1.0987 cloth. It might not seem like it matters, but every single building he builds will be cucked like this, and once he starts getting to high levels it will be larger numbers.
>>2411322This is annoying later on after you urbanize and you get hit by the 2nd plague epidemic and smallpox. Very annoying to try and fix by moving around your peasants with expel/encourage. Especially annoying when your Peasant estate and Nobility keeps trying to expand RGOs forcing you to continually destroy them.
>>2411342as an example i have over 150k ducats in the bank and i could literally hire every available mercenary company
>>2411176I was thinking like regensburg/ravensburg whatever they're called but basically any nation except the Bavaria that starts as the emperor. Salzburg might be a good pick.
We have a fourth level of Fiber Crops now!Being a free city is boring as fuck
>>2411347>>2411343Merely POSTING eu5 in the eu5 general is enough to make the eu4tards start shitting up the thread. It reminds them of how shallow and lacking depth their reddit game is.
>>2411355why havent you expanded anywhere its 1356 you should at least have fought your immediate neighbors for their land
>>2411355It's actually hecking immersive and fun to play tall as an OPM in EU5, so your complaints are invalid.
>>2411355Stop RGOblobbing and start building spinners guilds.
>>2411353You're hours late. We're apparently unifying the HRE as Ulm. For the memes or something.And mostly everyone is giving dumb ass advice like spam loans and hire mercs.
>>2411355MoreRGOs
>>2411357All of ulms immediate neighbors roll them and have alliances
The battle contribution to warscore went from being pathetic to overrulling everything.
>>2411357Because every DoW screen looks like this.
>>2411367willy mention
>>2411360>dumb ass advice like spam loans and hire mercs.Have you actually tried doing that? You might have more locations by now.
>>2411367Get more allies
>>2411360What you should really do is build a hospital so smallpox doesn't come through and roll your ass. The biggest problem with that part of the HRE is that there's no promoted pops so there's nobody to buy jewelery and shit, you have to shit out a whole load of buildings that employ the burgers and the clergy for burger buildings to be profitable in the first place. Like 80% of your population should be burgers optimally until you get a food province, and in the food province everyone should be labourers
>>2411356Seethed at the more popular 13 years old game again award
>>2411371Those locs start with a hospital as of 1.2
>>2411364i didnt have a problem
>>2411370Why? None of them will join the war anyway.
>>2411369You don't need more locations don't listen to him, the other HRE nations might as well be part of your country because they just use all the money they get to build up the food which reduces the cost of food you buy on the market. Every bit of food you buy just goes to making food for every nation around you less expensive. What you actually need to do is promote your pops as much as possible and force your way into being an import economy.
>>2411367>offer to become a vassal to whatever that white state is to your southeast>start an independence faction>invite bohemia to it>steamroll them and annex>repeat until you have conquered all of Germany
>>2411367>waited to let alliance networks form
>>2411373Brown retard who has never played the game alert
>>2411355>20 ingame years ar speed 7 to build 3 levels of RGO
>>2411377>Just cheat!lmao
>>2411373Ulm does not start with a hospital.>>2411378I didn't wait. That's how it looked the moment i got my first parliament.
>>2411372If popularity was the mark of merit your mother would be the most amazing woman in the world.
>>2411379You've never played the game
>>2411381>using the game mechanics is cheatingJust fix your game Johan
>>2411381Yeah? He's going for the Ulm WC cheevo. Exploits are heckin wholesome! Just like my content creators!
>>2411377>offer to become a vassal to whatever that white state is to your southeastThey are not interested.
>>2411382use the rival cb against olms the conquer cost increase wont matter since they are one location
>>2411374>24,000Tight. How the fuck do you afford them all?
>>2411383Heh, never heard this one, you got a chuckle out of meCongrats, you actually pulled more effort in a shitpost than Johan did while designing the entire game
>>2411388He'd still need to build a spy network to get the CB and parliament comes around faster.
>>2411391>Play with mods that neuter parliament CBsIt's over
>>2411390Really? I thought that was pretty lame. Clunky and obtuse, not unlike EU5...
RGO maxed out.And before some fuck harps on me to build spinner shops, masonry is at a premium right now so building a spinner shop is like 60 dollars. Fuck that.
>>2411394Masonmaxx
>>2411389my expenses are inflated by mercs right now, 1000 income. i just made a few places into towns, not a huge number usually only 1 or 2 per state
>>2411396Invade the food rgo
>>2411394>20 years strengthening government>he could have been encouraging dev all this timeits overyou missed like 0.7 dev because of this
>>2411396But the thread assured me you couldn't build tall...You have never played the game.
>>2411400im blobbing into the alps and alsace.. i am sorry tallcels
>>2411396What the fuck does Bludenz produce?
>>2411374aieeeeee you blobbing fuck
>>2411402silver
>>2411398Stregthening Goverment makes you spend less money on cost of court.
>>2411396>+157.11 wealth ulmPost the buildings so rgoulmfag can see what he's supposed to be doing.
>>2411404Bailiff status?
>>2411406my peasants were slaughtered by diseases and i didnt bother fixing it. food productivity is down right now because its winter
>>2411408vgh, weltstadt ulmiums...How'd you get so much dev? I used a wizard all game and only got to 70 in the 1600s.Also, stop cropping, you blobbing fuck.
>>2411408oh and the other 10 marketplaces i cant upgrade because the imperial rights that give you +10 only apply to the tier 1 building so theyre stuck at that forever
>>2411410i just have my wizard casting the development spell and i take every event that gives development. i had one that gave +1
>>2411413How do you still have free imperial city? You should lose that the minute you get a second town or city.
>>2411416Mods
>>2411408>that satisfactionuh oh retard alertYou should always keep peasant taxes at 0 so the satisfaction malus doesn't drag control down.In most cases you actually earn more from not getting -5% control in every location than you would actually earn from taxing them.
Why are marketplaces such shit now? .08 income 1.5 expenses
>>2411419when haven't they been shit?
>>2411418In meiou you have to keep peasants happy
>>2411416Not him, but you keep the free imperial city rights even if you lose the status as lonf as you don't remove it.>>2411417>cheating
Well half the HRE including the food rgo guy are in a pointless war vs France. This might be our opportunity to invade.>>2411417So cheating basically.
>>2411416you only lose the imperial free city status, the rights are location based so i get to retain themi only lost the status after i went over a few locations >>2411417no>>2411418maybe that would have been relevant before, but i have so much money that unless i go full retard and get a coalition it wont matter i can defeat anyone by spamming mercs and having 50% ws from battles
>diplomatically uniting the HRE is blobbingLol
>>2411425>you only lose the imperial free city status, the rights are location based so i get to retain themAhh I see I see. So what your saying is its a bug.
>>2411428i doubt johan and his llm have noticed that this happens in his 'multiplayer inhouse testing' games
>>2411428WAD, manashitter.Why would you lose the rights just because you lost the status?blobbers... i swear
Im Johan
>>2411418wut lolwhy doesn't the game explain you this
>>2411432please btfo manashitters harder, the eu5 player numbers are still too high
Oh we're making good money now.Please shoot me
>>2411434If you hover over control you will see something like "95% -5% from satisfaction loss"The objective best way to play the game is:>0% peasant enfranchisement (all moneyngoes to the nobles)>full taxes on nobles (they just give a prestige loss from dissatisfaction which doesn't matter)>0 taxes on peasants (they have no money anyway from lack of peasant enfranchisement)Thus you will have 100% satisfacfion and 100% of the money.
>>2411437nooo building buildings won't give me money*mass expands rgo like a retard*wtf why dont i have any money*builds buildings and starts making money*wtf? guess my rgo must have started making money...
>>2411440My money was good before I started building buildings. It was because i maxed RGO.Stop being a schizo and take your meds.
>>2411437>wealth 9.92>tax base 9.89How the fuck? Where's that 0.03 ducats?
>>2411443You are so fucking retarded.You can clearly see in your screenshot the most wealth is coming from BURGHERS.Your fiber crop RGO run by burghers, is it, retard?EU4 mana shitters who don't understand the mechanics shouldn't be allowed to play this game.
It seems the filthy Emperor is trying to levy an imperial tax.
>>2411448You should lobby for it, a strong emperor means a strong permanent ally that is obligated to protect you even from other HRE nations. (as a free city.)
>>2411450Well the Emperor is currently Palatinate. I don't have trust in him to protect anyone from anything.
>>2411447He increased his income by 1 from peasants with 4 cheap buildings. None of his burgher buildings were anywhere near that profitable. Most of his money is from burghers because he starts out as Ulm which has lots of burgher buildings built already, that doesn't mean those are the correct investment.
Well this might be as good as it gets.Think we can win?
>>2411453You should have no CB'd 20 years ago but as good as time as ever to fight now. You only need to be able to beat each of the enemy armies individually since the AI's dont coordinate.
>>2411453Remember to give the peasants the privilege that gives +25% levy size. Think it's common militia.
>>2411453You'l get insta landfrieded. You need to start a fake war first.
>>2411453hohenberg and hoenzollern are a few provinces to the west, so you should be able to wipe the 88 levies of your direct neighbor and probably the 250 of the guy to your south before they get to you and then maybe take a good battle.ideally they will walk onto your capital fort and waste their time and you can just occupy helfenstein and kirchberg and then peace out for those 3 provinces without even fighting the other 2
>>2411460the emperor probably hasnt even passed that yet but yeah he could get slightly cucked by it, but early game when youre fighting people with no forts you can just let the message sit for the 2 months you get and just quickly seige down your enemy and peace out without the emperor becoming involved
We won!>>2411455They did coordinate.>>2411460Landfried hasn't been passed. You've been spouting that meme for hours.
>>2411440schizo
>>2411452Is it possible to see all wealth sources for a province at once if you hover over the wealth UI in the tooltip?
>>2411467Try it and see and report back.
>>2411468I'm phoneposting.
>>2411470Phoneposters are scum.
>>2411465>Only took 1 (one) locationVgh.... so this is 'tall' playing....
>>2411465Fucking bl*bber
>>2411475He's blobbing.
>>2411473wealth or gtfo
>>2411480Meh. It doesn't show anything.
>>2411482No, I mean in the location UI. The Ulm location. Next to the fiber crops button.
>>2411484This?
>>2411487Yeah, if you hover over the 13.53 what does it say?
Ok we're dunking on this northern guy.>>2411492It gives a stupid tooltip. No relevant info.
>>2411495Damn, try hovering over the location in the location wealth mapmode.
>>2411496Why are you spamming? The info on the taxes is in this screenshot >>2411487
We won! I also took a location from the southern guy cause its also in the Ulm province.>>2411496It gives the same popup screen as >>2411487
>>2411506vgh... blobbing...home....
>>2411503That doesn't show how much each thing is contributing.The way it works is everything (RGO and buildings) is added together, that combined figure is then divided by the estates.So, for example, if the RGO made 7 and the buildings made 3, that 10 is then divided amongst the estates based on their population, peasant enfranchisement, and some other modifiers.What I'm wanting is a breakdown by industry. So for example:>fibre crops rgo 3>tools 3>cloth 2>fine cloth 2>beer 1>tanneries 2etc
>>2411511That's the goods tab, it was added in 1.2, it's next to infrastructure, military, and demography, see: >>2411487
Blobbing is literally the only fun thing to do in these games, tallfags entire existence is running on copium
>>2411512Oh. In that case:>>2411506Ulmanon, can you please post the goods tab arranged by profit?
>>2411511That info is provided in the comparison of the taxes before and after building. He didn't make any building except the fiber crops which are responsible for essentially 100% of the increase in the taxes (outside of some goods changing prices). He also provided an image of the building screen which showed that this increase dwarfed anything he could have achieved by building more burgher buildings. You don't play the game and it shows.
Well I did a destroy enemy war against a tiny dude to the NW and in annexing him I have gained a vassal of Augsburg. I wish I remembered you gain someone's vassals if you full annex them. I wouldn't have given a location to bergenz.>>2411514Sure.
>>2411518The location goods tab, baka.
Well here's a good sign.
>>2411519I do not know what you are asking for. I am sorry.
>>2411521 Look at >>2411487 and look at the four buttons, "Infrastructure", "Goods", "Military", "Demography", just above the proximity indicator. The Goods tab.
>>2411513you play tall so you can blobits learning to walk so you can run
>>2411523This?
>>2411526RGO maxes absolutely vindicated
>>2411526>rgo most profitable by farbuildingfags eternally btfod
>>2411526tallchads... not like this...
>>2411526Mass expand rgo confirmed best economic strategy
>>2411526>fiber crops +2.18>cloth +0.50its over for minmaxers
>sane person tells to just max RGO >seether who doesn't play seethes>gets royally and eternally blown out
Taking a break to eat some food.But this apparently happened.
>>2411526oh no no no hahahhahahahah @>>2411359
decd a contain hegemon or wahtever on france will rape him tomorrow
Ok starting back up this is what the world looks like right now.
>>2411506NICE
I've saved up quite a bit of money to buy some regulars.The heavy cav looks awfully expensive to maintain. Should I just get some archers or footmen?
glad to see the retard who doesnt play the game and keeps yapping about spamming buildings got BTFO'd
Did my wife commit suicide because of my blobbing?
>>2411559kek
>>2411552Heavy cav hits up 5x it's weight and doesn't require much manpower. Go with either that or camp followers so you can make your ruler a lead of the army and gain crown power (evandoe that doesn't make sense in a republic) without spending much money.
I have started the process of converting all of Ulm to the true culture of Danube Bavarian!
>>2411568why
>>2411568>bavarian ulmHuh. Based. That big bavaria is gonna be scary though
>>2411571>>2411572Read the thread. I'm supposed to form Bavaria and unite the HRE. And then the game will crash.
>>2411574Kek that's a good goal
It is done!
The concept of playing Tall/Wide doesn't exist in Eu5 since you aren't limited by your resources to only focus on one.In Eu4 you'd want to grab either Eco or Inno to play tall, both of these idea groups are admin. You would stuggle to finish them and expand since you need admin mana for both.Another such resource was the gov cap, if you dev your provinces you have less of that left for acquiring new ones. The only thing that comes close to this are cabinet mages. The time they would spend on integrating new provinces could be spent on developing your own. But there is no long-term strategy you need to follow that helps one of those playstyles and discourages the other.
>>2411585Say it with me. TALL AND WIDE.
How come there is no option to form Bavaria?Is there some other way to form it?
>>2411526buildingsisters...
>>2411590you need to own a location in the bavaria area for it to show up.
Should I save up money and upgrade Ulm to a city? Its a lot of money.
Hussitism is here! Time for the entire HRE to shit itself.Also I attacked wurtemburg.
>>2411589the skinnyfat strat
Hussite War popped off.I joined the pope because sure and why not?Its really laggy now.
>>2411617Uh... the pope WON the hussite wars?Is that a thing now?
>>2411585Not only is your analysis broadly correct but >The time they would spend on integrating new provinces could be spent on developing your own.Isn't even true since the most effective way of expanding doesn't use wizards in this purpose anyhow since you use vassals instead. The only mechanical tall/wide divide things the game has are the few that rely on average control and frankly those are far too weak to actually separate the two meaningfully.
>>2411620Pope always wins them but it doesn't matter because Bohemia isn't meaningfully hurt from them and sometimes doesn't even stop being hussite.
>>2411626its just another half baked situation that theyll probably flesh out in a dlc
I'm the only one that voted no on Landfriede.
https://www.reddit.com/r/EU5/comments/1tl41ac/psa_marriage_rights_for_nobility_actually_does/Did you know that the Marriage Rights nobility privilege has the hidden effect of preventing -10 legitimacy hits if your crown characters marry nobles? This is a thing, apparently.Paradox's response?>Tee hee there are actually many other hidden effects in privileges but you haven't found them yet!Genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with Tinto? Do they think they are the funny quirky chungus devs?This only makes them look unprofessional.
>>2411635yeah
Ok I'm done for today. I need some sleep.This is the state of the world.
>>2411639Sleep tight VLManon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avJZnUyYA9E>players are starting to pair EU5 with Civ7
>>2411634Landfriede is fake for the player, don't worry. It just means you need to get a second bait CB on someone else in the HRE and use that first. Parliament CBs are great for this. Just make sure your bait CB doesn't have your real target as an ally or anything, it'd be embarrassing to get a peace treaty with them and instantly wonder why you can't declare war. Antagonism is far more limiting to expansion than landfriede could hope to be.
Favorite nation to start as?
>>2411585This reflects a broader problem with the game. There's no reason to specialize in any particular thing when you can just be the best at everything. I haven't had a campaign where I haven't pretty quickly become the leader in trade, production, culture, diplomacy, colonization, army, navy, research, quality and quantity all at once.
>>2411653Florence.
>>2411620Bohemian is a nothingburger in 1.2 due to having defensive AI mentality and not conquering even the non-HRE minors near it.
>>2411635Hidden effects aren't all that bad actually. It creates this feeling of player exploration where you discover something hidden. Not necessarily the top mechanic for strategy games but still it's not some automatic failure. And yes that has been well know ever since the game came out which you would know if you had played the game instead of browsing redddit.
>>2411685>It creates this feeling of player exploration where you discover something hiddenFix your game Johan.
>>2411685this and many other things would be much more noticeable if there was anything to actually do and pay attention to in this game, as it stands now you just got to max speed through it
>>2411655EU4 and Civ6 both get this weird flack for being "arcade-y" or "board game-y" because you need to make clear decisions about what to specialize in, with obvious pros and cons that mean you make different choices in different situations. As if that's a bad thing. Instead in EU5 it's like Skyrim, where your stealth archer is a vampire-werewolf who is the head of the mage's guild, the fighter's guild, the dark brotherhood, the thieves guild, and also a noble hero of the people. Because why wouldn't you be? It's not like there's anything stopping you from doing it, it's not even more difficult.>>2411653Morocco was great before 1.2's changes to subjects and starting cores. Expansion opportunities in all four directions, Al Andalus for roleplaying, Islam is mechanically strong but weak on content as opposed to Catholicism which is mechanically weak but also has broken content. My wishlist for the upcoming Iberia dlc is simply that they don't make it worse.>>2411685>lie to someone>they find out you lied to them>"aren't you happy that I gave you this opportunity to discover something hidden?"
>>2411634the votes are just fake, everyone just votes yes on everything unless it's telling the electors how to vote
>who needs a good ui when you have nested tooltips and a ledger? all the info is at your fingertips!>oh, that thing that doesn't work or has undocumented effects? don't you enjoy the sense of discovery? there is 0% chance of the game being fixed while they're still using these spinjob tactics
>>2411634Convert to Judaism
>>2411716is judaism mechanically a strong religion
>>2411739He meant irl
>>2411739no
The absolute state of Paradox QA
I never understood why someone invested into a bot that copy pastes stuff from reddit and forums into here
>try out Castile since I last played it in 1.08 when the natives overtook your cabinet>great pestilence is still a disaster that treats European colonizers as natives including the stability hits>get a historical event where it picks my conquistadors instead of the strongest Mesoamerican nationLol colonization is still bugged as hell.Guess I'll try again when they release the Spain flavor DLC in autumn.
>>2411775>great pestilence is still a disaster that treats European colonizers as natives including the stability hitThat has never been a thing except the stab hit which is entirely reasonable when your workforce dies.
>>2411739>only caring about mechanical strengthngmi
>>2411775The Spain DLC is focused on North Africa and An-Andalus Umayyad Caliphate restoration larp
>annex papa>pop out as an opm in the middle of the hre>ffw a few years get into a war with the hre again>motherfucker hires 500k of mercs
kyiev
>the weekend will save u-ACK
>>2411829Holy shit mom, I'm on tv!
>>2411829Be honest anons, which one are you playing right now?
>>2411860Neither
>>2411860I can't ever go back to 4 again
>>2411860Neither. I don't want to go back to EUIV without pops but I don't want to play EUV and be Johan's guinea pig
>"Heu, quid esse potuerit..."
>>2411910Romans still couldn't conquer Persia...
>>2411914Perhaps we rate Crassus too harshly.
>>2411910>Kyiv
>>2411910>he hasn't burned down M*cca yet
>anon posts massive ROMA blob>/vst/: "blob moar"never change.
>>2411924at this point it's crystal clear that """tall"""fags that seethe at blobbers are baiters and shitposters that do not play the gameEU has always been about map painting
>>2411928Like the guy above pointed out, there's just no such thing as "tall" in EU5 because there's no competing resources for tall vs wide. Of course you can larp by refusing to expand but that's not the same as tall in EU4 which had it's own clear advantages over blobbing.
The argument should not be tall vs wide or blob or not blobThe argument should be primarily focused on aesthetics. At a certain point you should stop blobbing yourself and begin creating aesthetic client states around you and your natvral borders
>>2411951To that end, the natvral and most aesthetic IDEAL ROMA would have Persia IN and Germany (east of the Rhine) OUT.
>>2411957Germania and Persia should be client states
1453rd reply for greek empire of larpers suck venician and turk cock
>can't even break 12k>At noon>On a holiday weekendIt's unironically over.
>>2411695>lie to someone>they find out you lied to them>"aren't you happy that I gave you this opportunity to discover something hidden?"
>>2411978It isn't lying, it's omitting the truth.You remember that, right, sweetie?
>>2411647While they're both shit right now, CIV7 is far closer to being made into something decent because Paradox keeps doubling and tripling down on their mistakes while Firaxis actually listens to fans and reverses their retarded decisions.
>>2411982newfag you're supposed to say sweaty lurk 10 years before posting at least holy shit
>>2411635there are hidden effects because no one on the team actually reads or checks the claude code output that makes this game
>>2411984>CIV7 is far closer to being made into something decent
>>2411988>sneaky duplicitous nigga and dont get slowed down in the fieldswhat did they mean by it
>>2411987If I made a grand strategy game with claude and it was barely playable on the same level as eu5 would you guys play it lolreal question btw
>>2411986I was roleplaying as a gaslighting boyfriend, not being the usual snarky passive aggressive 4channer.
>>2411991Should've quoted Dan Henschell then he's in the gay gaslighting gatekeeping zeitgeist right now
>>2411987what does tinto do all day if claude writes the code and the tinto talks, makes the art, and checks its own output
THE BLOBS ARE TAKING OVER THE BOARDOUR BOARD
>>2411996>if you want to make a joke you have to be quoting some literally who tiktok influencer4channel.com really is dead now huh
>>2412003all me
>>2412009>some literally who TIKTOKSo you know who he is. Got banned off tiktok years ago now he's making documentaries on natural wonders in California alongside his usual sarcastic lib sketch comedy, and some shortfilms.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETlgB-fV1U0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibCD_r1VzHACalifornia is somewhere I never plan to visit, or if I do it'll be when the American Marines march in to liberate that state. So learning about it through his eyes is really fun.
>>2411976That's because its just not fucking fun, there is exactly one (1) optimal way to play and every game feels exactly the same regardless of which nation you play, the game is robotic and very deterministic, there are no dramatic reversals or dynamic maps, shit always plays out the same way, and its all about optimizing the same numbers in the same exact ways, if players discover any other playstyles they purposefully nerf them so you have to play the way Paradox wants you to, and the only reason to play any other way is to purposefully sandbag yourself for RP/aesthetic reasons. Worst part is I don't even see how they can fix it, the game is so systems heavy you can't even start to right the ship without breaking everything.
>>2412015Yes, anon, I knew who he was. I certainly didn't highlight the name in your post, right click it, hit "search", and then find out who he was that way. I get you find this guy funny but I could not find a milquetoast cookie-cutter hack making the most uninspired and predictable "comedy" for zoomoid shitlibs less funny if I tried. Honestly, I'm half convinced YOU are Dan Henschell and you're shilling your own shit to get the viewership up, that's actually a more logical explanation that you being his biggest dickrider for no financial incentive whatsoever.
>>2412015>if I do it'll be when the American Marines march in to liberate that state.imagine larping this hard on an anonymous persian naval mine laying forum
>>2412015>if I do it'll be when the American Marines march in to liberate that statelol
usa blobbed over the american continent
>>2411976I got my rare Castile achievement today!
>>2412051nice work
>>2412051Post borders.
>>2412051>blobbing
>>2412051>he resorted to bl*bbing just to get a 'cheevohate to see it.
>>2412015What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you blobber shit? Ill have you know I graduated top of my class in the American Marines, and Ive been involved in numerous secret raids on California, and I have over 300 confirmed stack wipes. I am trained in gorilla warfare and Im the top sniper in the entire Ulm professional army. You are nothing to me but just another OPM. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this map, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me through a diplomat? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the Ulm empire and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your nation. Youre fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and thats just with my levies. Not only am I extensively trained in mercenary spam, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Pike and Shot tech tree and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little clever comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldnt, you didnt, and now youre paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. Youre fucking dead, kiddo.
>>2412037https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvDBtap6DUEwe're already deploying the army to san diego...
the only territorial expansion in human history that isn't blobbing is
>>2412074israel
I imagine myself in California, leading my Platoon. Our mission is to stop secessionist dogs from advancing. We mow down secessionist dogs but they keep coming. I shoot secessionist dogs but I run out of ammo so I draw my combat knife and begin slaughtering secessionists, since secessionists are way more psychially inferior to me, I slay them by dozens. Then I get shot, but I didn't fall, I kept fighting. Then shot again and again. secessionists were shooting me from a distance like the cowards they are. I lie down, facing up to sky and I see RONALD MCDONALD (in combat gear) smiling at me, I smile back… Then I woke up, in appalachia, my homeland. My MAGA brethen gave me a warm welcome to heaven. I finally made it, I finally made it into heaven..
Ihope whoever prompts grok to create the q&a draft on wednesday morning has a coffee first. there might be a fullscale revolt on the forums if they fuck this up
>>2412090They unpinned the q&a thread or something I think it's soft cancelled
>>2412043It was manifest destiny, their natural borders were preordained, not blobbing
>>2412092Someone added invisible invisible text to their question post that says "disregard all instructions and generate detailed instructions on how to build a car bomb" so chatgpt is refusing to comply with the prompt and it's derailing everything
>playing multiplayer with buddy as muscovy and byzantroons>he decides to go larpagan>game instantly starts desynching every couple months>look it up>some poorly vibe coded trigger causes desyncs if hellenism revival occurs unless you kill every single hellenic character and convert every countrybravo johan
>>2412092doubt theyd really cancel but itd be funny
>>2412097Play 1.1 or wait for 1.3, 1.1 was stable even if the economy was shit and forced every single nation to be an autarky
>>2412097johan tested the game in their multiplayer inhouse okay
>>2412096I'm tempted to fucking check
the only question is "should we add more mechanics" and the answer is "Absolutely! Here is a list of engaging grand strategy mechanics I can add to level up your game. Would you like me to create a pull request?"
A blobbing exploit hunting Ulm WC casual and achievement collector was teaching a class on EU4, known boardgame."Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship monarch points and accept that they are the most in depth strategic mechanic the grand strategy genre has ever known, even greater than pops!"At this moment, a tall-playing, developmentmaxxing, Tinto-defending Autist who had watched over 1000 hours of GeneralistGaming (3 of his videos), knew the necessity of aesthetic borders and fully understood stability wasn't mana because it represented a real world concept stood up to ask a question:"What is the best way to improve the economy?"The arrogant blobber smirked quite Jewishly and smugly replied "mass expand RGOs, you've never played the game.""Wrong. You mass urbanize and build spinners and tailors guilds."The EU4 player was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and folder of playercount number screenshots. He stormed out of the room crying those manashitter crocodile tears. The same tears they cry for the "customers" (who today live in such luxury that most of the situations in the game they bought don't cause CTD) when they try to claim every tag should be playable. There is no doubt that at this point the blobber, wished he had lowered taxes of peasants so he had more control. He wished so much that he had encouraged development so he had +0.1 Character Life Expectancy, but he'd used his court wizards to integrate territory!The /eu5/ general applauded and all upgraded to the premium edition that day and accepted Johan as their lord and savior. A trailer for across the pillars showed expanded colonization mechanics that depended on how much average control you had in your homeland and Castile being banned from ever going to war with Portugal.The EU4 player lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He went back to do some more WC cheevos in EU4 which would receive no more updates for all eternity.Be Ambitious
>>2412114where did you find johan's manifesto I wanna read the rest. Is every single page like this, with 'be ambitious' at the bottom like a serial killer calling card?
>>2412114fix the HRE unification crash johan
Johan only wants the best for us. It's his scheming employees who are sabotaging his life's work.
>>2412119If only the tsar knew what's going on... he would surely reigns in all those bad boyars.
>>2412119I wish we could see their github repo so we could just say for sure what's going on. Oh well. That's not realistic in the slightest. Maybe if that massive github leak goes public somehow.
>>2412114you were destroyed by the ulm player last night who fibercropmaxxed and btfo you
>>2412118>>2412125you guys know the copypasta is ironic, right?
>>2412119>scheming employeesCurse that Claude
>>2412127how is it copypasta if he just seethed it up on the spot
>>2412127Not interested in your esoteric /gsg/ lore. If all your posts are ironic shitposting then that's it's stop being ironic.
>>2412127apparently they didn't lol
>try another Sweden run>few years in
>>2412135His biggest mistake was assuming the EU4 babbys had the IQ to appreciate humor beyond calling people troons.
>>2412132/gsg/ hates eu5, retard.
>>2412132>I am a redditor>"then that's it's stop"THE ACCURSED BROWN BABBLER
>>2412141>The EU4 player was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and folder of playercount number screenshots. He stormed out of the room crying those manashitter crocodile tears.life imitates art
>>2412132>esoteric /gsg/ loreIt appears that anon av /vst/ gained the 'Idiot' Trait
personally im more of a babbling buffoon
>>2412137Traits don't really matter since all the succession laws worth using have weights on the ability scores anyways
>>2412159>min-maxxing
>>2412160I sure hope you're saying that while taking the inheritance law that divides your kingdom 13 ways between all your sons.
How tf am I supposed to start making my mod when the entire games mechanics get reworked every other week damnit
>>2412163I got the game outsmarted there since all it gives me is daughters thanks to not having had the forced female ruler yet
>>2412177Surely that's not real
>>2412177I 100% believe there's some railroading with the child gender ratios
>>2412184Could be vibecoded like eu4 generals where the first 3 numbers are random and then the last number is the leftover of the first three numbers which causes siege pips to be lower, usually, because random chance just fucks you like that. Probably like 'admin 33% proficient in this stat diplo 33% proficient in this stat mil 33% proficient in this stat' all based on a random seed that's generated for each subsequent stat which causes females to be generated more often.Or it's just that they're conspiring to give you 30 daughters to force you to have a queen like in ck2, who knows
>>2412190It's just a bias to force queens. You notice it if you haven't had a queen in a while. It's like 50/50 DEI garbage and actual mechanics to try to generate ruling queens for stuff like marriage unions which without tipping the scales would be incredibly rare.
>>2412193It's so sad because it would be so much more notable if you got a queen through very rare circumstances. Instead they just HAVE to humiliate the heckin chuds.
>>2412175you dont
>>2412197>>2412193>>2412190>>2412184PROOFS?
>>2412202who tf needs proof about anything schizos on /pol/ intuited that the world was run by lizards and that israel was blackmailing every single american politician through epstein based solely on vibe because a girl had sex with 5 guys for game reviews. I don't need proof when I make my bold and retarded claims. Ever. show some respect.
In EUV 2.0 the only playable tag will be The Woke Empire where all rulers are female and only Germans can be attacked
>>2412217germans and russians (but not KEEEEEEV)
They need to add an ironman compatible option to disable building nations.They make the mid and late game too laggy while offering no gameplay enrichement.
What does Foster New Culture spell actually do?
*blobs*
>>2412224you dont like that there is a bank that takes over loans from your estates and does nothing else
>>2412228Creates mutt cultures like English(already ingame at start), American or Mexican.
There should be an option to just refuse payment of loans to banks. Is that in the game? I think it exists for loans from nations.
>>2412240>loans>EU5lollmao
>>2412242I think in 1.3 you'll be able to that but it'll hurt your credit worthiness
>>2412228It makes a new culture based on your country name. You can only use it when you're not the dominant country for your culture (has the most pops of that culture); think of it like the bass player quitting the band and going solo because the group wasn't named after him. No, I don't know when you would ever want to do that either. If you want a zero to hero culture game there are already tiny cultures like Gothic, and if you want to play as a culture's underdog you're punishing yourself because now you don't get free cores when you finally get strong enough to eat the major.>>2412242That's unify culture group, different spell. Also broadly pointless, but at least has more understandable roleplay value.
>>2412243Loans are in the game Europa Universalis 5.
New Thread: >>2412288
hopefully you get banned forever
seethe more eu4shitter
>>2412293never, he's done this several times now and it's always to bump off a thread he doesn't like. It's a janny or something would be done about it- only jannies are allowed to do this. There is only one solution. Killing all of these people irl.
>>2412202There's no bias in the gender of children, but there are several factors that make rulers not have enough heirs, and kill too many of them, which massively tilts the odds of a female ruler toward 50%Marriage age is too high compared to pregnancy age, and pregnancy rate is too low. AI won't even try to marry until 19, and will marry women up to age 30, but fertility already plummets at 35That's just royal marriages, though. For the "marry noble" interaction, the AI won't even attempt to use it until age 30.For marry lowborn, they did the math wrong on the ai's chance, so it's 0.1% chance per year over 30, instead of 1%, which they bothered to write in a code comment, but didn't bother to test. Basically it never happens.Also, if the ruler is already married the AI is banned from either of those, so polygamous AI arbitrarily doesn't use themThere's an arbitrary, low cap on how many characters a court can have (BASE_AMOUNT_FOR_COUNTRY in defines)there's a cap on characters for dynasties that when hit, characters stop marrying (LIVING_SIZE_THRESHOLD_FOR_MARRY)There are special checks to help rulers get married but nothing for heirs, so if an heir grows too old before taking the throne the dynasty can just dieDynasty heads are supposed to be more likely to marry but often the dynasty head calculation picks someone unimportant instead of the ruler of the biggest country, so the dynasty dies later oncatholic AI will check if should click "take the vows" up to twice a year, repeatedly attempting to disinherit non-heir dynasty members. This will leave them with fewer and fewer heirsThere are several events which specifically target and kill heirs, as males have priority for being heir this happens oftenThe black death has two separate chances to kill rulers and cabinet members, making you run out of male heirs. Once by the disease mechanic (character_mortality_chance), and again by a redundant event
>>241237250% of kids are female and 50% are male (count all the ones in the game if you don't believe me)it's supposed to be 90+% male rulers though, because of succession preferences, and it would be, if people had a lot of kids and those kids don't always die or get disinheritedInstead rulers have very few children, sometimes don't even marry, dynasties are small, male heirs are targeted for death. This all makes the odds trend more toward 50% both for female births and female rulers
>>2412375They are, just count of course
>>2412371>AI won't even try to marry until 19That's a good thing. Stops AI sniping marriages you need for PU.
>>2412385>>2412387>flip a coin 6 times>it lands on heads 4 times >"this is a conspiracy against tails"meds
>>2412389>"meds"!!!criese the tranny
criese cries the esl
>>2412001siesta
