>>2408428
What the fuck is 'zero dagger'???

So the planets that will get added are:
Toliman, a water planet. The locals have a queen.
Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants.
Songlurch, a jungle planet. It's the home world of the bugs and the local humans are a bunch of hippies who sing with the bugs.

>>2408440
It's a code for: "WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THIS SHIT!"

>>2408441
>Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants.
Please let us kill muties... I don't give a shit if they just have black skin and an extra toe. Just let me kill them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2408428
I really don't like the whole OMG YOU USED THEM 2 MISSIONS IN A ROW YOU MONSTER shit. Well game if you had some more white pilots maybe I wouldn't have to.

Imagine you're trying to play Menace but then someone kicks your door in and pushes you over and just starts raping your ass
That would be so fucked up

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>>2408804
you should genuinely feel bad that you felt this was acceptable to post

>>2409137
I'll make sure to post a vamplew one for you next time :)

>>2408590
it should be more like 3 or 4 missions. even 5.

>>2408441
>Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants.

"Agitatis Ultramarini!"
"Dominitis Ultramarini!"

>>2409149
Or it should just not exist unless you take like 50% damage multiple missions in a row or something. The positive one pop too often too really if we're talking abalance.
Just feels weirdly penalizing when you could only possibly have so many pilots of squads in general and it happens to you early on. You get no warning the mission before or anything that they are getting tired unless I'm missing it. It happening later in the game is obviously a completely different story.

uhh where update???

>>2409218
should be in 4-5h given their past record

>>2409220
Fucking German pieces of shit only releasing shit at the end of their workday. Won't somebody please think of the slackers?

>Menace update, TW:WH3 DLC drop, Mechanicus 2 relese, Warhammer skulls event, AOW 4 devstream reveal for next DLC
Damn a lot happening this day

Update's out my fellow giganiggas

>Light Vehicle Weapons now fit into medium slots
So does the fact you can equip light weapons in medium slots mean you can twin link light weapons on the basic APC?

>>2409510
twin-linked automatic nade launcher
accept no substitutes

>Reduced 'AT Wardog' attack range from 6 to 4

RIP drone

>>2409516
Not that big of a nerf, you can throw it pretty far to begin with. A nerf of 2 range is not that bad.

>Light Vehicle Weapons now fit into medium slots
So taxi Exonde is stronk now

>>2409524
He was always stronk

>AI acts too passively in a number of situations
At least they admitted it. Now until they adjust it.

The real MENACE is these light weapons HAR

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Vamp you feeling okay?

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Umm what's going on? Why won't she climb on what is the game trying to tell me.

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Bro wtf am I looking at, is the entrance now on the left side?

>>2409582
HJOW ABOUT YOU STOP FUCKING NOTICING FOR A ChANGE DUMB CHUD

>>2409185
>You get no warning the mission before or anything that they are getting tired
this is my issue
make it a stat we can see
i'm certain some sls (pike, tech) last longer than others too (carda, sy) so it must be tied to a stat

>>2409185
You know, I agree. But I do like the mechanic despite its flaws. The whole Battle Brothersian "grit and misery simulator" shit activates my neurons and I get a perverse satisfaction from being forced to use piece of shit Singh when my A team gets combat fatigue. It's fun to have shitty situations thrown at you. The reduction in loot drops burns me though, restricting my access to fun toys is where these dour Germanic devs go too far.

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No shadows

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>>2409600
Shadows?

why is NVG creating shadows

>spend 2 months "fixing" the heavy tank
>re-release it without its ability to use a ti-tank rounds
Great, now it's worse than it was in the demo. The new vehicle version of the crocodile is also broken. What do they have dozens of beta testers for if they release shit like this?

>>2409591
Yep.
>>2409597
I like it in theory I don't like how it is in practice. A lot of it just feels in the game for the sake of it rather than "hard."

>first map on expert backbone vs pirate terrorists
>pirates keep retreating into the forest vs my 4 squads
nigga i want to like this game but i dont even care about the fucking tanks
make the ai work

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Cheaper than expected.

>>2409597
What's wrong with singh?

>>2409600
>>2409601
see >>2409586

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>>2409600
>>2409601

>>2409710
Honestly nothing. But I don't really dig the "zerg out a bunch of soldiers for stat modifiers, strength-in-numbers gimmick. I never really promote him or figure out how to make a good build. Like, you've got a cost-effective rifleman squad, fine. Just kind of bums me out. Compare with Kody or Tech or even Yaz who feel so dynamic and unique and elite. You know?

>>2409534
They're not admitting that AI blatantly cheats and knows your position at all times.

>>2409779
Give him hollow point rounds. They shred. Don't worry about that gay ass shit about armor pen, it's not that important since you are still dealing armor damage, and the shots that go through armor insta kill everything. It feels so good.

>>2409779
>rule of cool
Yeah, alright. That's fair. I like him and pike as marking pathfinders in jaeger kit with binos and hollowpoint mod1s. Maybe also a pal or ghetto rpg if the budget allows.

>>2409779
comparing a one star to 3 stars and 2 stars is dumb.

yeah they're not as fun or exciting, but 1 stars are cheap for what they do. yeah its a shitty niche, but that's why they are 1 stars.

i wanted to run pike as another infantry squad because his stats are solid and he's the only marine's marine without a twist but he just seems so much more valuable as a command squad with the ap action, rally, and call out
if I had a crocodile I'd probably give it to him, as is I just hand him either the gpmg or an at weapon, sometimes when people are weary I cycle them out and give him a full squad and he does fine still
I wish you could choose who you're gonna unlock while recruiting, griefinger and yaz would be among my first picks, and sy is okay cause she's cheapy cheap, don't really care for singh, he seemed weaker and less versatile than the other sls even with a big squad
darby is alright but she has such a nothing personality
I'd like to give wetteroth a shot but I've never got him, and haven't had the opportunity to run vamp yet
I might have been more inclined to hire him it he was a sexy french twink/femme fatale instead of a nigga who looks like he'd be in a thugshaker video though
we should have a lady with frankie vibes, I think that's what the dice femme fatale is named, sy doesn't count, she's just a bitch
still hot but not the same way
I don't have many opinions of the vehicle sls because I haven't used them much, I will say though, I'm not sure rewa is actually stronger than achilles in my short experience with both, because while rewa's unique perk is definitely better, it seems like achey is operating at the level rewa's perk takes her too as his baseline

ESL or just high as fuck?

>>2409842
Sachin is boring compared to the other 1 stars too. His main niche will be jumping the grenade when the bullshit forced to sacrife someone story even happens.

>>2410254
yes.

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Gee, which one to pick

>>2410273
Are the rewards actually the same?

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>>2410275
Same as same can be

>>2410273
>>2410278
I think you should pick sabotage supply infrastructure.

>>2410281
But what about that sabotage supply infrastructure? even the goddamn map is the same

I actually like using the sepoy guy, really good at just laying down fire and one of the more likeable personalities.

>>2410240
Rewa isn't stronger, Achilleas is the best overall pilot period. She can just shoot really straight and true when her perk is stacked up, but the man won't go down unless you specifically try to get him killed, and all the while he will be turning all kinds of enemies inside out faster and faster.

>>2410298
Bullshit. Achilleas is a bro but he is expensive as all fuck while bringing mostly comedy relief. Rewa has 40% base damage with no additional questions asked or procs required from a single skill for one. That said, you forgot el spico. Man lights a cig, drags a line while praying to hefe and completely shrugs off anything. If they can even hit him with all the defensive perks he can take. Best of all? Vehicle elsa or grenade launcher doesn't count against fervor so the fucker can crossmap like no one else.

>>2410312
Plus base damage but minus base accuracy. Achilleas shoots straight enough from the get go and 100% x2 tank cannon shots is greater than 140% cannon.

>>2410325
Yeah, -15%. That's like two kills or commando for Rewa to get net neutral, if it's even relevant because marked ATGMs basically don't miss and they hit like a motherfucker between fury, tankbuster and finisher. Then you have berserk and she shares drive-by with him and neither of those depend on rolling a dice whether your masochism will pan out and give you more AP or leave you with a defect that may or may not completely stop you from shooting or moving and which you have no natural way to mitigate. Something almost everyone else including Rewa have the ability to do.
If he and or medium walker were cheaper I'd use him but he in that ain't remotely worth like 500 points and at a goddamn minimum. And while entertaining in a organ truck or mortar ifv for his suppression he definitely ain't worth that price when ivory exist with a better toolkit for the job. Man's a mess unfortunately.

>>2410278
no anon, the rewards, at the bottom, are the effects the same?

OH FUCK THEY RELEASED THE UPDAT EITS OUT GET STARTED RETARTS

>>2410463
I thought about it but nah, game is boring. I play it for a bit and I just don't care. I don't care about the units, the planets, none of it. Why would I want to help any of these "people"?

>>2410515
great another dumb chud looking to oppress biopoc LGBT and jews

>>2410515
>>2410517
why are talking to yourself

>>2410517
>>2410523
why are you talking to yourself

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>>2410517
>>2410523
>>2410541

>>2410616
nice right click view page source bro

>>2410630
I don't understand what that means

>>2410631
dude can you just post about the game instead of talking to yourself for half the thread

>>2410631
>There are tech illiterate zoomers on /vst/ now
It's a sad day.

>>2410636
>>2410637
Be nice to me

>>2410643
Fuck you, me.

>>2410515
Too true. There should be a planet full of nothing but law-abiding while males, so I have something to fight for.

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>>2410663
kek yes that is true but no really there is no set up to why you should give a fuck about any of it. Game just dumps you in and hopes the sseth cameo gets them an early "review" for easy sales.

>>2410666
nice right click view page source bro

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>>2410667
>there is no set up to why you should give a fuck
Cutscene skipper or just plain retarded?

>if i bring up the 10 second "cutscene" that doesn't establish anything maybe it will be a different cutscene this time!
Unless something new was added in the update the cgi doesn't do anything but establish the menace and the text intro establishes even less. Why the fuck would anyone care about a bunch of nowhere planets in the middle of... somewhere... with... maybe people? on them.

This game set itself up as x-com but instead its just defending amazon's gas station in space. Wow, I'm so excited.

>>2410667
67
>>2410669
69

>>2410680
Amazing. It's like you're closing your eyes and then getting triggered that you can't see anything.

>>2410674
Is this cutscene in the room with us right now?

:)

Hey dev since you cry in this thread regularly you should know your game sucks in its current form.
At least it isn't as fugly as battle brothers.

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>>2410715

Imagine if instead of killing the enemies tried to rape your squads and you had to rape fight the enemies and your OCI was stuff liek cum bombs and instead of APCs you get massive drivable dildos

>>2410887
stick to starsector modding

>>2410887
you might want to jerk off before posting next time.

>>2408590
Wait, 2?
I haven't played since the beta dropped not to burn out on the game but I could have sworn it was 4 missions, then they would get a weary status effect so you knew to rotate them off before they became exhausted.

>>2410935
how about you help me ?

>>2410937
That is just it anon, we don't know, that is the point of the post. If it is 4 ok but show me my mans r tired. When you're trying to run mostly pilots and one guy is just feelin icky its kind of rough early on kek

>>2410937
you are right that at least it warns you BEFOREhand though*

>>2408590
It's rng 10-20 missons in a row. ANd if you can't afford second pilot after 10 missions it's totally on you.>>2410974
>ut show me my mans r tired
You get orange icon debuff + orange frame around portrait.

>>2408590
It takes a fuckload of missions for the weary trait to appear, and it disappears after a single fucking mission.
Seriously just swap out one, maybe two SL's at most and the next mission you can use them again.

>>2409591
i just precycle people that i feel like im too reliant on and its a complete non issue

>>2410887
i feel a a bit raped by hmg trucks flanking me from the fog every now and then

>>2411279
>>2411291
nah

>>2411279
>>2411291
Well tell the game to have more white pilots and give them out so I can use more than a drunk guy.

>>2411442
You have a british lady, a greek dude and a redneck, there's like three White pilots.

>>2411444
And they are given to you randomly with increasing cost and you can't just buy one right after the other.

>>2411454
Sell some shit and buy them then.

>>2411459
Again, you can't just "buy them" you get 1 at a time and then you have to do more missions, which if you need to rest a pilot is difficult. You also don't get to pick and it costs magical "authority" to get the pilots. You'd think you would know this stuff.

>>2411463
Nigga you literally buy a slot machine activation and then they are free to hire (why don't you have lots of authority? Lmao)
There's not that many pilots so your odds of getting the White ones is pretty high.

>>2411469
You cannot buy 2 pilots in a row. You can only buy one at a time, no matter how many authority magic points or how many magical trade supplies you have. You understand that yet?

>>2411485
Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over having an undesired SL for a short period of time?

>>2411486
Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over me having an opinion on a shitty game mechanic? Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over you not understanding basic parts of the game and how they function?

>>2411490
You're not supposed to be able to pick every single SL you want, that's the point. If you want every single SL you're going to have to pay for them all.

>>2411444
>>2411459
>>2411469
>>2411486
>>2411493
your game sucks lil bro

>>2411494
>Heh, you're explaining how game mechanics work as intended? What are you? Retarded?

>>2411497
Sure, so get out of the Menace vst thread then lmao.

>>2411493
>If you want every single SL you're going to have to pay for them all.
You can't, even if you want to, as you can't buy more than one at a time, something you seem to be ignoring repeatedly at this point. It doesn't matter how many funbucks you have. You can't buy more than 1 pilot at a time. You can't leave and come back and get another one. Hope this helps.

>>2411500
You have to buy a new SL each operation, it's not that hard.
I think cancelling an operation also resets the store.

>>2411499
Nah I think I'll tell the devs what is wrong with their game and I think you're just going to have to seethe about it.

>>2411501
Not one of my posts has been about difficulty. I never once said it was "hard." The game isn't hard, it is bad in current form. The "challenging" difficulty isn't challenging. It is boring.

Now I really want to know who pays to shit up vst threads with nonsense. How the fuck do you even get employed to do such a thing?

>>2411507
>make menace
>cry about how NO UR WRONG in threads on internet
very shrimple

Sounds like the update is very fun kek

>>2411444
>british lady
Who

>>2411525
I think he's making a joke about the brown lady with bandages kek

>>2411527
Could also be turdworlder cope. We pajeets are actually british and such.

>he spends more than 1 point per PD used
ngmi

>>2411442
>Well tell the game to have more white pilots
>implying that your preferences for skin of pilots is flaw of game mechanic
Go away retard. Really.

>>2411605
gee i wonder why that upset you

>>2411605
KEK

so basically the wayback are racists that hate the TCR because they are white. this is why i make all the brown SLs run into pirate gunfire, they deserve it

>>2411667
A considerable amount of the TCR's SL's are non-White though lmao.

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I just purchased this game today mostly blind.
I have maybe 500 hours with xcom + long war
What am I in for?

>>2411605
thou doth protest too much

>>2411671
an early return until they finish the game

>>2411671
>What am I in for?
Imagine Xcom but with less overly simplified mechanics.
So that massive machinegun actually fires more than 1 bullet.

>>2411676
shit bait

>>2411671
indian saars join your forces in return for google play gift cards

>>2411678
can they be redeemed?

>>2411677
Oh yes, because your turnbased game is super detailed when simple things like 'machineguns firing a burst' are not modelled. Lmao.

>>2411680
sephora only

Feel like even if the AI was fixed to not hide away and let themselves get picked off piecemeal pirates would still be almost unable to fight an even moderately geared player.
Like with how battle brothers worked raiders could still sneak kills if you got lax with hooked blades or 2H maces but 70% of their forces trying to fire ARCs from max range or tickling you with scrap assault rifles, they've got no chance beyond your third mission.

>>2411692
The AI is either over the top pushing you or hiding in a corner, no inbetween that I've seen. Defend a spot for 8 turns oh that sounds ea- jesus crimas where did all you fuckers come from?

>>2411692
Menace is a lot less RNG-heavy than Battle Brothers was, so yeah outliners where some shitter gets a surprise kill on your elite dudes because of a lucky roll simply doesn't happen. Which isn't entirely negative, but it does make matchups that are already uneven, even more uneven because there's less random noise to even things out.
It's not just pirates either. Bugs are entirely pathetic past the second or third mission. They either need to phase out early-game factions and replace them with stronger ones, not just add stronger factions to the mix like they do with the Rogue Army and the Menace, because then you still get Pirate/Bug missions, but actually replace them. Or they need to make enemy factions evolve over time and give them better stuff to fight you with so they can keep up.

>>2411770
>Menace is a lot less RNG-heavy than Battle Brothers was
You know other than when it completely borks out and damage stops not applying to the enemy and you have to reload to fix it.

>>2411772
It's sad that you don't know the difference between bugs and RNG.

>>2411781
nah the bugs must be killed, i'm from buenos aires and I say kill em all

>>2411772
I've had three playthroughs of Menace and never had that happen, not once.

>>2411786
Sounds like you need to git guud then

Greifinger is based and rigged as fuck with Vanguard deployment, assassin, etc., coupled with jetpacks. Holy shit he just runs around the map annihilating everything. I'm wishing I got Vanguard on Rewa now, because it's such a rigged perk.

>>2411605
BASED, anon. Always tell racists to fuck off.

>>2411827
kek you're still mad about this? You're going to be brown tomorrow still just so you know. You won't just wake up white one day.

>>2411830
Michael Jackson did

>>2411836
... you know what anon you got me there kek

>>2411820
You need to be at least 18 to post here

>>2411692
>Feel like even if the AI was fixed to not hide away and let themselves get picked off piecemeal pirates would still be almost unable to fight an even moderately geared player.
You really misunderstand how stupid current ai is.
Sure, rats gear is bad in most cases. But they have heavy number advantage and free (or almost free) trucks and cars.
With their numbers they completely can supress all your units in 2 turns and you can't do anything with it.

>>2411878
>doesn't play the game
>just trolls posts
ok

>>2411894
Not my experience. Pirates are easy as fuck. Not as easy as bugs, mind you, which are literally free missions, but still very easy.

>>2411898
>Not my experience
Yes, since current ai so stupi so you can't even understand how it bad.
If you have at least little experience in board games you should understand how opposite side can play. But look like you don't.

>>2411605
CRINGE, anon. Never tell racists to fuck off.

>>2411900
>pirate AI is bad
>that means the pirates are too hard
wut

Looks like the real MENACE were these brown waybackers heh eheh, heh, heheheh, heheheheheh, heageafgaeHAHAHAHAHA

The real Menace were the anons in /mengen/ we met along the way

the real menace was those robot tanks in terminator 2 those were pretty spooky
the menace in menace look like retards

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Cheerfully realizing and accepting that Pike is just Godfather from Generation Kill

>>2411497
your opinion is trash.

most of the retards that complain about shit in this thread complain about things that will make the game stupid fucking easy and retarded with no actual fun

>HURR SUPPLY LIMIT
>HURR EQUIPMENT SLOTS
>HURR SLS
>HURR OCIS
>HURR MARKET PLACE RNG


every fucking argument always comes down to people wanting to play with all their toys all the time. but that's fucking retarded, because then you'd play the game once and experienced it all. While I think one of the strengths of battle brothers was how it was a game that was fun to play ironman on. And I think menace is the same way, I have way more fun when there's limitations,

These retards couldn't design a game to save their life.

>>2412370
nice strawman, ranjesh, you get to keep the jam

>>2412400
what the fuck is up with the mentally retarded on this sites obsession's with jam?

>nooo my village doesn't need the jam

>>2412404
In colonialism days, British aristocrats would slather jam on jeets to attract pesky insects so they wouldn't get bothered while playing golf.
The deal was the jeet could keep the jam if they kept bugs away from the British.
Jeets are very upset that this was discovered.

>>2412406
Okay, and they think about this constantly? they really are retarded.

>>2412409
They think about it constantly because it reminds them how fucking pathetic of a subspecies of human they are.

>>2412411
Obviously by they I mean the retarded mongoloids autist that spam that shit on this site. I don't give a fuck about what indians did 100 years ago, I care about retards do today on this site. I'm pretty sure if we went back in time I could find one of your ancestors doing something retarded and degrading for pennies too, probably sucking dick for morphine or something.

>>2412413
>Seething jeet
Jej