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>>2408428What the fuck is 'zero dagger'???
So the planets that will get added are:Toliman, a water planet. The locals have a queen.Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants.Songlurch, a jungle planet. It's the home world of the bugs and the local humans are a bunch of hippies who sing with the bugs.
>>2408440It's a code for: "WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THIS SHIT!"
>>2408441>Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants.Please let us kill muties... I don't give a shit if they just have black skin and an extra toe. Just let me kill them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>2408428I really don't like the whole OMG YOU USED THEM 2 MISSIONS IN A ROW YOU MONSTER shit. Well game if you had some more white pilots maybe I wouldn't have to.
Imagine you're trying to play Menace but then someone kicks your door in and pushes you over and just starts raping your assThat would be so fucked up
>>2408428
>>2408804you should genuinely feel bad that you felt this was acceptable to post
>>2409137I'll make sure to post a vamplew one for you next time :)
>>2408590it should be more like 3 or 4 missions. even 5.
>>2408441>Fira, a wasteland planet ruined by the energies of the nearby gate. The locals are mutants. "Agitatis Ultramarini!" "Dominitis Ultramarini!"
>>2409149Or it should just not exist unless you take like 50% damage multiple missions in a row or something. The positive one pop too often too really if we're talking abalance.Just feels weirdly penalizing when you could only possibly have so many pilots of squads in general and it happens to you early on. You get no warning the mission before or anything that they are getting tired unless I'm missing it. It happening later in the game is obviously a completely different story.
uhh where update???
>>2409218should be in 4-5h given their past record
>>2409220Fucking German pieces of shit only releasing shit at the end of their workday. Won't somebody please think of the slackers?
>Menace update, TW:WH3 DLC drop, Mechanicus 2 relese, Warhammer skulls event, AOW 4 devstream reveal for next DLCDamn a lot happening this day
Update's out my fellow giganiggas
>Light Vehicle Weapons now fit into medium slotsSo does the fact you can equip light weapons in medium slots mean you can twin link light weapons on the basic APC?
>>2409510twin-linked automatic nade launcheraccept no substitutes
>Reduced 'AT Wardog' attack range from 6 to 4RIP drone
>>2409516Not that big of a nerf, you can throw it pretty far to begin with. A nerf of 2 range is not that bad.
>Light Vehicle Weapons now fit into medium slotsSo taxi Exonde is stronk now
>>2409524He was always stronk
>AI acts too passively in a number of situationsAt least they admitted it. Now until they adjust it.
The real MENACE is these light weapons HAR
Vamp you feeling okay?
Umm what's going on? Why won't she climb on what is the game trying to tell me.
Bro wtf am I looking at, is the entrance now on the left side?
>>2409582HJOW ABOUT YOU STOP FUCKING NOTICING FOR A ChANGE DUMB CHUD
>>2409185>You get no warning the mission before or anything that they are getting tiredthis is my issuemake it a stat we can seei'm certain some sls (pike, tech) last longer than others too (carda, sy) so it must be tied to a stat
>>2409185You know, I agree. But I do like the mechanic despite its flaws. The whole Battle Brothersian "grit and misery simulator" shit activates my neurons and I get a perverse satisfaction from being forced to use piece of shit Singh when my A team gets combat fatigue. It's fun to have shitty situations thrown at you. The reduction in loot drops burns me though, restricting my access to fun toys is where these dour Germanic devs go too far.
No shadows
>>2409600Shadows?why is NVG creating shadows
>spend 2 months "fixing" the heavy tank>re-release it without its ability to use a ti-tank roundsGreat, now it's worse than it was in the demo. The new vehicle version of the crocodile is also broken. What do they have dozens of beta testers for if they release shit like this?
>>2409591Yep.>>2409597I like it in theory I don't like how it is in practice. A lot of it just feels in the game for the sake of it rather than "hard."
>first map on expert backbone vs pirate terrorists>pirates keep retreating into the forest vs my 4 squadsnigga i want to like this game but i dont even care about the fucking tanksmake the ai work
Cheaper than expected.
>>2409597What's wrong with singh?
>>2409600>>2409601see >>2409586
>>2409600>>2409601
>>2409710Honestly nothing. But I don't really dig the "zerg out a bunch of soldiers for stat modifiers, strength-in-numbers gimmick. I never really promote him or figure out how to make a good build. Like, you've got a cost-effective rifleman squad, fine. Just kind of bums me out. Compare with Kody or Tech or even Yaz who feel so dynamic and unique and elite. You know?
>>2409534They're not admitting that AI blatantly cheats and knows your position at all times.
>>2409779Give him hollow point rounds. They shred. Don't worry about that gay ass shit about armor pen, it's not that important since you are still dealing armor damage, and the shots that go through armor insta kill everything. It feels so good.
>>2409779>rule of coolYeah, alright. That's fair. I like him and pike as marking pathfinders in jaeger kit with binos and hollowpoint mod1s. Maybe also a pal or ghetto rpg if the budget allows.
>>2409779comparing a one star to 3 stars and 2 stars is dumb.yeah they're not as fun or exciting, but 1 stars are cheap for what they do. yeah its a shitty niche, but that's why they are 1 stars.
i wanted to run pike as another infantry squad because his stats are solid and he's the only marine's marine without a twist but he just seems so much more valuable as a command squad with the ap action, rally, and call outif I had a crocodile I'd probably give it to him, as is I just hand him either the gpmg or an at weapon, sometimes when people are weary I cycle them out and give him a full squad and he does fine stillI wish you could choose who you're gonna unlock while recruiting, griefinger and yaz would be among my first picks, and sy is okay cause she's cheapy cheap, don't really care for singh, he seemed weaker and less versatile than the other sls even with a big squaddarby is alright but she has such a nothing personality I'd like to give wetteroth a shot but I've never got him, and haven't had the opportunity to run vamp yetI might have been more inclined to hire him it he was a sexy french twink/femme fatale instead of a nigga who looks like he'd be in a thugshaker video thoughwe should have a lady with frankie vibes, I think that's what the dice femme fatale is named, sy doesn't count, she's just a bitchstill hot but not the same wayI don't have many opinions of the vehicle sls because I haven't used them much, I will say though, I'm not sure rewa is actually stronger than achilles in my short experience with both, because while rewa's unique perk is definitely better, it seems like achey is operating at the level rewa's perk takes her too as his baseline
ESL or just high as fuck?
>>2409842Sachin is boring compared to the other 1 stars too. His main niche will be jumping the grenade when the bullshit forced to sacrife someone story even happens.
>>2410254yes.
Gee, which one to pick
>>2410273Are the rewards actually the same?
>>2410275Same as same can be
>>2410273>>2410278I think you should pick sabotage supply infrastructure.
>>2410281But what about that sabotage supply infrastructure? even the goddamn map is the same
I actually like using the sepoy guy, really good at just laying down fire and one of the more likeable personalities.
>>2410240Rewa isn't stronger, Achilleas is the best overall pilot period. She can just shoot really straight and true when her perk is stacked up, but the man won't go down unless you specifically try to get him killed, and all the while he will be turning all kinds of enemies inside out faster and faster.
>>2410298Bullshit. Achilleas is a bro but he is expensive as all fuck while bringing mostly comedy relief. Rewa has 40% base damage with no additional questions asked or procs required from a single skill for one. That said, you forgot el spico. Man lights a cig, drags a line while praying to hefe and completely shrugs off anything. If they can even hit him with all the defensive perks he can take. Best of all? Vehicle elsa or grenade launcher doesn't count against fervor so the fucker can crossmap like no one else.
>>2410312Plus base damage but minus base accuracy. Achilleas shoots straight enough from the get go and 100% x2 tank cannon shots is greater than 140% cannon.
>>2410325Yeah, -15%. That's like two kills or commando for Rewa to get net neutral, if it's even relevant because marked ATGMs basically don't miss and they hit like a motherfucker between fury, tankbuster and finisher. Then you have berserk and she shares drive-by with him and neither of those depend on rolling a dice whether your masochism will pan out and give you more AP or leave you with a defect that may or may not completely stop you from shooting or moving and which you have no natural way to mitigate. Something almost everyone else including Rewa have the ability to do. If he and or medium walker were cheaper I'd use him but he in that ain't remotely worth like 500 points and at a goddamn minimum. And while entertaining in a organ truck or mortar ifv for his suppression he definitely ain't worth that price when ivory exist with a better toolkit for the job. Man's a mess unfortunately.
>>2410278no anon, the rewards, at the bottom, are the effects the same?
OH FUCK THEY RELEASED THE UPDAT EITS OUT GET STARTED RETARTS
>>2410463I thought about it but nah, game is boring. I play it for a bit and I just don't care. I don't care about the units, the planets, none of it. Why would I want to help any of these "people"?
>>2410515great another dumb chud looking to oppress biopoc LGBT and jews
>>2410515>>2410517why are talking to yourself
>>2410517>>2410523why are you talking to yourself
>>2410517>>2410523>>2410541
>>2410616nice right click view page source bro
>>2410630I don't understand what that means
>>2410631dude can you just post about the game instead of talking to yourself for half the thread
>>2410631>There are tech illiterate zoomers on /vst/ nowIt's a sad day.
>>2410636>>2410637Be nice to me
>>2410643Fuck you, me.
>>2410515Too true. There should be a planet full of nothing but law-abiding while males, so I have something to fight for.
>>2410631
>>2410663kek yes that is true but no really there is no set up to why you should give a fuck about any of it. Game just dumps you in and hopes the sseth cameo gets them an early "review" for easy sales.
>>2410666nice right click view page source bro
>>2410667>there is no set up to why you should give a fuckCutscene skipper or just plain retarded?
>if i bring up the 10 second "cutscene" that doesn't establish anything maybe it will be a different cutscene this time!Unless something new was added in the update the cgi doesn't do anything but establish the menace and the text intro establishes even less. Why the fuck would anyone care about a bunch of nowhere planets in the middle of... somewhere... with... maybe people? on them.This game set itself up as x-com but instead its just defending amazon's gas station in space. Wow, I'm so excited.
>>241066767>>241066969
>>2410680Amazing. It's like you're closing your eyes and then getting triggered that you can't see anything.
>>2410674Is this cutscene in the room with us right now?
:)
Hey dev since you cry in this thread regularly you should know your game sucks in its current form. At least it isn't as fugly as battle brothers.
>>2410715
Imagine if instead of killing the enemies tried to rape your squads and you had to rape fight the enemies and your OCI was stuff liek cum bombs and instead of APCs you get massive drivable dildos
>>2410887stick to starsector modding
>>2410887you might want to jerk off before posting next time.
>>2408590Wait, 2?I haven't played since the beta dropped not to burn out on the game but I could have sworn it was 4 missions, then they would get a weary status effect so you knew to rotate them off before they became exhausted.
>>2410935how about you help me ?
>>2410937That is just it anon, we don't know, that is the point of the post. If it is 4 ok but show me my mans r tired. When you're trying to run mostly pilots and one guy is just feelin icky its kind of rough early on kek
>>2410937you are right that at least it warns you BEFOREhand though*
>>2408590It's rng 10-20 missons in a row. ANd if you can't afford second pilot after 10 missions it's totally on you.>>2410974>ut show me my mans r tiredYou get orange icon debuff + orange frame around portrait.
>>2408590It takes a fuckload of missions for the weary trait to appear, and it disappears after a single fucking mission.Seriously just swap out one, maybe two SL's at most and the next mission you can use them again.
>>2409591i just precycle people that i feel like im too reliant on and its a complete non issue
>>2410887i feel a a bit raped by hmg trucks flanking me from the fog every now and then
>>2411279>>2411291nah
>>2411279>>2411291Well tell the game to have more white pilots and give them out so I can use more than a drunk guy.
>>2411442You have a british lady, a greek dude and a redneck, there's like three White pilots.
>>2411444And they are given to you randomly with increasing cost and you can't just buy one right after the other.
>>2411454Sell some shit and buy them then.
>>2411459Again, you can't just "buy them" you get 1 at a time and then you have to do more missions, which if you need to rest a pilot is difficult. You also don't get to pick and it costs magical "authority" to get the pilots. You'd think you would know this stuff.
>>2411463Nigga you literally buy a slot machine activation and then they are free to hire (why don't you have lots of authority? Lmao)There's not that many pilots so your odds of getting the White ones is pretty high.
>>2411469You cannot buy 2 pilots in a row. You can only buy one at a time, no matter how many authority magic points or how many magical trade supplies you have. You understand that yet?
>>2411485Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over having an undesired SL for a short period of time?
>>2411486Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over me having an opinion on a shitty game mechanic? Are you seriously throwing a massive hissyfit over you not understanding basic parts of the game and how they function?
>>2411490You're not supposed to be able to pick every single SL you want, that's the point. If you want every single SL you're going to have to pay for them all.
>>2411444>>2411459>>2411469>>2411486>>2411493your game sucks lil bro
>>2411494>Heh, you're explaining how game mechanics work as intended? What are you? Retarded?
>>2411497Sure, so get out of the Menace vst thread then lmao.
>>2411493>If you want every single SL you're going to have to pay for them all.You can't, even if you want to, as you can't buy more than one at a time, something you seem to be ignoring repeatedly at this point. It doesn't matter how many funbucks you have. You can't buy more than 1 pilot at a time. You can't leave and come back and get another one. Hope this helps.
>>2411500You have to buy a new SL each operation, it's not that hard.I think cancelling an operation also resets the store.
>>2411499Nah I think I'll tell the devs what is wrong with their game and I think you're just going to have to seethe about it.
>>2411501Not one of my posts has been about difficulty. I never once said it was "hard." The game isn't hard, it is bad in current form. The "challenging" difficulty isn't challenging. It is boring.
Now I really want to know who pays to shit up vst threads with nonsense. How the fuck do you even get employed to do such a thing?
>>2411507>make menace>cry about how NO UR WRONG in threads on internetvery shrimple
Sounds like the update is very fun kek
>>2411444>british ladyWho
>>2411525I think he's making a joke about the brown lady with bandages kek
>>2411527Could also be turdworlder cope. We pajeets are actually british and such.
>he spends more than 1 point per PD usedngmi
>>2411442>Well tell the game to have more white pilots>implying that your preferences for skin of pilots is flaw of game mechanicGo away retard. Really.
>>2411605gee i wonder why that upset you
>>2411605KEK
so basically the wayback are racists that hate the TCR because they are white. this is why i make all the brown SLs run into pirate gunfire, they deserve it
>>2411667A considerable amount of the TCR's SL's are non-White though lmao.
I just purchased this game today mostly blind.I have maybe 500 hours with xcom + long warWhat am I in for?
>>2411605thou doth protest too much
>>2411671an early return until they finish the game
>>2411671>What am I in for?Imagine Xcom but with less overly simplified mechanics. So that massive machinegun actually fires more than 1 bullet.
>>2411676shit bait
>>2411671indian saars join your forces in return for google play gift cards
>>2411678can they be redeemed?
>>2411677Oh yes, because your turnbased game is super detailed when simple things like 'machineguns firing a burst' are not modelled. Lmao.
>>2411680sephora only
Feel like even if the AI was fixed to not hide away and let themselves get picked off piecemeal pirates would still be almost unable to fight an even moderately geared player. Like with how battle brothers worked raiders could still sneak kills if you got lax with hooked blades or 2H maces but 70% of their forces trying to fire ARCs from max range or tickling you with scrap assault rifles, they've got no chance beyond your third mission.
>>2411692The AI is either over the top pushing you or hiding in a corner, no inbetween that I've seen. Defend a spot for 8 turns oh that sounds ea- jesus crimas where did all you fuckers come from?
>>2411692Menace is a lot less RNG-heavy than Battle Brothers was, so yeah outliners where some shitter gets a surprise kill on your elite dudes because of a lucky roll simply doesn't happen. Which isn't entirely negative, but it does make matchups that are already uneven, even more uneven because there's less random noise to even things out.It's not just pirates either. Bugs are entirely pathetic past the second or third mission. They either need to phase out early-game factions and replace them with stronger ones, not just add stronger factions to the mix like they do with the Rogue Army and the Menace, because then you still get Pirate/Bug missions, but actually replace them. Or they need to make enemy factions evolve over time and give them better stuff to fight you with so they can keep up.
>>2411770>Menace is a lot less RNG-heavy than Battle Brothers wasYou know other than when it completely borks out and damage stops not applying to the enemy and you have to reload to fix it.
>>2411772It's sad that you don't know the difference between bugs and RNG.
>>2411781nah the bugs must be killed, i'm from buenos aires and I say kill em all
>>2411772I've had three playthroughs of Menace and never had that happen, not once.
>>2411786Sounds like you need to git guud then
Greifinger is based and rigged as fuck with Vanguard deployment, assassin, etc., coupled with jetpacks. Holy shit he just runs around the map annihilating everything. I'm wishing I got Vanguard on Rewa now, because it's such a rigged perk.
>>2411605BASED, anon. Always tell racists to fuck off.
>>2411827kek you're still mad about this? You're going to be brown tomorrow still just so you know. You won't just wake up white one day.
>>2411830Michael Jackson did
>>2411836... you know what anon you got me there kek
>>2411820You need to be at least 18 to post here
>>2411692>Feel like even if the AI was fixed to not hide away and let themselves get picked off piecemeal pirates would still be almost unable to fight an even moderately geared player.You really misunderstand how stupid current ai is.Sure, rats gear is bad in most cases. But they have heavy number advantage and free (or almost free) trucks and cars.With their numbers they completely can supress all your units in 2 turns and you can't do anything with it.
>>2411878>doesn't play the game>just trolls postsok
>>2411894Not my experience. Pirates are easy as fuck. Not as easy as bugs, mind you, which are literally free missions, but still very easy.
>>2411898>Not my experienceYes, since current ai so stupi so you can't even understand how it bad.If you have at least little experience in board games you should understand how opposite side can play. But look like you don't.
>>2411605CRINGE, anon. Never tell racists to fuck off.
>>2411900>pirate AI is bad>that means the pirates are too hardwut
Looks like the real MENACE were these brown waybackers heh eheh, heh, heheheh, heheheheheh, heageafgaeHAHAHAHAHA
The real Menace were the anons in /mengen/ we met along the way
the real menace was those robot tanks in terminator 2 those were pretty spookythe menace in menace look like retards
Cheerfully realizing and accepting that Pike is just Godfather from Generation Kill
>>2411497your opinion is trash.most of the retards that complain about shit in this thread complain about things that will make the game stupid fucking easy and retarded with no actual fun>HURR SUPPLY LIMIT>HURR EQUIPMENT SLOTS>HURR SLS>HURR OCIS>HURR MARKET PLACE RNGevery fucking argument always comes down to people wanting to play with all their toys all the time. but that's fucking retarded, because then you'd play the game once and experienced it all. While I think one of the strengths of battle brothers was how it was a game that was fun to play ironman on. And I think menace is the same way, I have way more fun when there's limitations, These retards couldn't design a game to save their life.
>>2412370nice strawman, ranjesh, you get to keep the jam
>>2412400what the fuck is up with the mentally retarded on this sites obsession's with jam?
>nooo my village doesn't need the jam
>>2412404In colonialism days, British aristocrats would slather jam on jeets to attract pesky insects so they wouldn't get bothered while playing golf.The deal was the jeet could keep the jam if they kept bugs away from the British.Jeets are very upset that this was discovered.
>>2412406Okay, and they think about this constantly? they really are retarded.
>>2412409They think about it constantly because it reminds them how fucking pathetic of a subspecies of human they are.
>>2412411Obviously by they I mean the retarded mongoloids autist that spam that shit on this site. I don't give a fuck about what indians did 100 years ago, I care about retards do today on this site. I'm pretty sure if we went back in time I could find one of your ancestors doing something retarded and degrading for pennies too, probably sucking dick for morphine or something.
>>2412413>Seething jeetJej