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Hololive is on the news again
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>>107091550
First time this happened, it was over abusing their artists and getting caught by the government
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Again?
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>>107091550
qrd?
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Good evening, nijiniggers, enjoy your biyearly nothingburger. Let me know if you need anything else with that.
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>>107092311
>Hololive decided to insert a character based on an infamous killer who killed a little girl and her mother into their game as a joke
>The japanese people got pissed since this guy was part of a highly political court case
>They removed it and claimed it was a coincidence. Nobody buys it

That's basically it
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Sounds fun
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>>107092414
>nobody buys it
And even fewer “people” care.
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>>107092372
>Nothingburger
>Makes national headlines again
Seething Holodrone. Stick to your dramatubers
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>>107092452
Yeah, so little people care that it got the attention of actual journalists and news reporters
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>>107091550>>107092414
next they'll put the main gamers from the junko furuta experience

remember anons, 2 weren't enough
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>>107092372
>nothingburger
Can you ESLs please look up the definition of words before you use them?
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>>107092498
>actual journalists
No such thing exists.
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>>107092561
Hard cope
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>>107091550
You were late by a day anon. And it's another nothingburger
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>>107091550
>>107092414
>killer
Whilst technically true (and the holofans who were defending this in the original thread about it by saying it was pure coincidence are retarded) you're being somewhat dishonest by just saying "killer"

It was an old guy who was speeding and caused a crash which killed a child, not a premeditated murderer. Not that it makes it much better (or any less baffling as to why they included a reference to him).
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>>107092638
>>107092543
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>>107092464
>Makes national headlines again
Newspaper reposted the same Oricon News article to give some slop to the SEO and get some views. They clearly care that much that didn't even bothered to write their own articles from scratch.
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>>107092993
>It was on the newspapers but it's not a big deal
Holocope
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>>107091550
Holo is a satanist institution. Basically Israeli operated.
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>>107091550
Based, we love killers on this board, tourist
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>>107091550
1. You didn't use any "." for your post.
2. The other didn't use "," , but use 2 "." instead.

There are more than 10 posts that i noticed, and i think both of you done a pretty good job keeping this thread alive.
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>>107092593
Stay mad
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>>107094259
>Thinks anyone bothers using periods here
Based retard
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Guilty until proven innocent??????
WHAT?
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>>107091550
If HoloEarth were popular, this might be news.
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>>107091550
it's so depressing watching the current state of japan, where they freak the fuck out over this retarded shit, but if you release a cashgrab gacha designed to EoS in 8 months with 0.1% rates and a 500 rolls spark system with a 30 rolls per month income and $100 skins and all that kind of good shit, they bend right over and spread their cheeks wide open while calling everyone else whiny
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>>107094512
Name ten of those gachas.
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>>107094467
this is us when Nijisanji yabs
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>>107093935
>Holo is a satanist institution.
The world itself is becoming more degenerate but sleazy coombait and pedobait merch is not that rare in the anime industry. The only questionable stuff is some of the Hololive designs/lore but that really does seem to be directly linked to Omega. The guy loved mysticism and he added that into Myth and Council but it's noticeable that after the HoloEN projector director was replaced the overt mysticisim lore mostly vanished with Advent. Cover even went back and removed some of the detailed lore from Council so that wasn't even related to Hololive but a specific issue with one guy that was running the EN branch. Now whether the vtuber business model is moral is another question but compared to Nijisanji or some of the GFE small corpos I would say that Hololive is better than most. They have constant merch shilling and sponsorships but the talents generally want fans to view them as entertainers and in terms of moral lessons Hollywood is a thousand times worse.
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>>107091550
That's not all Hololive has been in the news for recently. Here's an article about why Cover is flopping so hard as a business while Anycolor is doing the best it's ever done.
https://www.itmedia.co.jp/business/spv/2511/19/news027.html
They talk about a number of factors. They blame Hololive losing so many talents and having lots of scandals recently. They say compared to Anycolor, Cover is much more reliant on the individual talents to make money, they have a huge personel risk of graduations, losing 1 of 200 members has much less impact than losing 1 of 80, each member represents less revenue for Anycolor so has less impact. For Cover a series of high profile graduations could easily bring down the company and things don't look good in that respect recently. They say that because a number of popular talents from Hololive graduated and redebuted as indies just fine without issues that is undermining investor confidence that Hololive's IP actually has any value. They also point to the fact that Hololive had to write down 550 million yen in merch and speculate that's down to the graduations, meaning of people keep graduating Hololive will have to take more massive write downs for unsold merch. They also talk about the metaverse HoloEarth stuff and say how investors doubt it has any future growth potential, now that the hype has died down investing money in a metaverse seems just like burning money.
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>>107094869
Mori's concert, "New underworld order", was a clear hint that hololive is a satanist institution
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>>107091550
https://x.com/Holoearth_JP/status/1993958319812485381
Uh oh they're cancelling upcoming events planned in HoloEarth.
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>>107092643
The killing was a major cultural event and scandal in Japan because the police and media were perceived by the public to be letting the guy off lightly due to initially not even arresting the guy who was some important big hot shot. So that explains why it's getting referenced but not why they thought it was a good idea to reference it.
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>>107092414
>Hololive decided to insert a character based on an infamous killer
It was a 87 year old senile grandpa who happened to be a former official.
It was a tragedy, and putting him in the game is in bad taste, but a senior citizen who cannot tell the difference between an accelerator and a brake in a situation requiring fast reaction time is hardly a "killer".
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>>107092543
>look up the definition of words
See example #1 I guess.
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>>107096839
I believe another part of why the guy got so much hate is because he refused to take responsibility for the incident. He tried to blame it on what do you call it like phantom acceleration, the car just accelerating on its own because of some electrical malfunction or the pedal getting stuck down. But I think the investigation proved that wasn't the case and he just stuck to that story or something like that.
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Japan loves capitalizing on tragedies. Think of Concrete Girl or the guy who put a kid's head on a school gate.
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>>107096883
Compared to the majority of vtuber drama looking at the definition of the words I would say this is most certainly not a nothing burger. The majority of vtuber drama has no impact at all and just gets ignored by both the talents and the company and never gets outside the small fanbase. This HoloEarth issue has resulted in the company rushing out an update to remove the offensive material, the company making an official public apology, and nationwide media coverage of the incident followed by the cancellation of planned upcoming events related to HoloEarth.
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>>107096895
Well, it kind of speaks of the senility too.
87-year olds in general should not have a license anymore. I wonder why he got to keep it.
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>>107092452
https://www.sankei.com/article/20251125-H5A2SXPPKJJJJO66XDWB6PUDEU
https://www.asahi.com/and/entertainment/16180421
literally normalfag news
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>>107095829
>meaning of people keep graduating Hololive will have to take more massive write downs for unsold merch
Cover is still selling graduated talent's merchs tho, those unsold merch were because of the decline of Hololive and bleed of fan as whole because of graduation rush
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>>107097013
>On April 19, 2019, the car that Iizuka was driving sped through a red light and hit Mana Matsunaga, 31, and her daughter, Riko, 3, while they were crossing at an intersection. Nine others were injured.
>Iizuka initially blamed mechanical failure, but the Tokyo District Court ruled in 2021 that he had accidentally and repeatedly pressed the accelerator

It sounds like he panicked and just started hitting all the pedals when he wasn't slowing down fast enough.
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>>107097013
>>107097218
This incident actually scared a lot of elderly Japanese drivers into surrendering their licenses.
>in the aftermath of the crash, more elderly people voluntarily surrendered their driver licenses. For example, Fuji News Network reported that in the week following the crash, as many as 1,200 people in the Tokyo metropolitan district voluntarily surrendered their licence. Following this, it was reported that, according to the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department, in the half-year following the crash, 42,252 people voluntarily surrendered their driving licence, which was 80% more people than for the same period in the preceding year.
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>>107097218
Japan has some of the strictest driver's license tests in the world. i find it really baffling that there's still idiots like him that are allowed to drive in that country!
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>>107097143
The Cover presentation said the merch that was written down was produced before 2024. So I assume they just decided it was never going to sell if it's been in their warehouse not selling for 3 years. The Cover report doesn't really say why they decided to write it down right now though. But if talents graduate that's probably going to lead to their merch not selling in the long term.
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>>107097374
The man wasn't an idiot though he had been given imperial honors and everything.
>Iizuka's 2015 medal, the Order of the Sacred Treasure for Administrative Services in International Trade and Industry, was revoked after he accepted a sentence of five years in prison.
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>>107091550
Nothingburger of the century
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>>107091550
Why did Aqua do it...
https://x.com/syonen_A/status/1993660778579386520
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>>107096181
they're postponing because vpigs and junsgang might grief the whole event. also it's in bad taste to hold an event right when the yab is still fresh.
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What's with all the holofags cope about this with their "nothingburger" posts? Objectively no matter if you think this is offensive or not a vtuber company fucking up hard enough for it to get covered in national news is a rarity. I think the last time I remember this happening was when Cover got told off by the government for exploiting contractors.
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it didn't appear on Indonesian local news, so it must be a nothingburger.
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>>107097797
This board is hilarious.
>200 CCV NijiEN member makes vague offhand statement that could be interpreted as negative if you twist it enough
>Multiple threads a day, This is it guys! This is huge Nijisanji is heckin finished!!!
>Cover fucks up so hard they have to delete stuff from their game as fast as possible, issue a public apology full of blatant lies and get national news coverage for their fuck up
>This is the nothing burger of the century yawn...
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>>107096839
He was some old rich elite that refused to take responsibility and the court basically gave him a slap on the wrist
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>>107097911
This is the mind of a Holodrone in action. Any gigayab is either a nothingburger like this or a misunderstanding like Haachama exposing the company
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>>107098604
It's funny how quickly that got brushed under the carpet. Company just calls her mentally ill to cast doubt on her claims and people just look the other way and ignore all the favoritism, bullying and exclusionary catty behavior she exposed.
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>>107099003
>>107098604
People would have torn Anycolor to shreds if they tried to use Selen's BPD to discredit her claims of bullying. But Cover does it the Haato and everyone is just fine with it.
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>>107092414
And why the fuck would they do that?
FFS you're putting so much redtape for the girl's streams and somehow you're allowing this moneysink to do shit like this? I'm so mad.
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This must have been some inside job by a staff member that hates Holo Earth because I don't see any reason someone like this would get referenced. It's not really funny or quirky, it's actually just to bait reactions.
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>>107099562
Honestly they'd be saving Hololive if they manage to kill off HoloEarth. This shit is a distraction and a money sink taking money from stuff people actually want and investing it into a failure.
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>>107093913
Why they just copy pasted the Oricon News article. If you read it they are exactly the same.
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>>107096248
>was a major cultural event and scandal
No, it wasn't. lol
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>>107091550
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>>107096960
Outfitschizo, you are not slick.
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>>107092643
same logic as maggies use with 'all illegals are criminals. He killed someone, yea he's a killer, just like someone who crossed the border illegally is a criminal.

Does that mean he's a hardened killer and that illegal is a hardened dangerous criminal? Not necessarily, no, but they'll milk the dishonest association for all they can.
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>>107097797
>>107097068
Read both articles and you can see they are exactly the same piece. The same same text, written exactly to a t. And both cite the source as Oricon News. They care so much about this thing they just copy pasted the infor of another cite and decided that that was good enough for them. That is how much they care, lmao.
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>>107100363
Yes it was? It got huge amounts of news coverage. They've made documentaries about it and erected memorials to the people killed. It's not just some random traffic accident.
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>>107100728
That's literally all news outlets. Maybe one day you'll realize how centralized news is, and how it's being used for propaganda.
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>>107092452
The worst downplaying of the year
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>>107094869
>hololive gets pointed out and exposed
>deflect to "b-but the world" and muh X-bait
If this is some attempt at trying to defend Hololive, you're massively failing at it
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>>107097478
sunk cost fallacy of the century
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>>107093935
>Satanists are going bankrupt to the point they don't pay their operatives and have to steal money from Peter to pay Paul
>Hololive has been on a freefall ever since the multple graduations and getting exposed for not paying their talents nor the other contracted people they hire
>Both have ties to blackrock
Coincidence? I think not
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>>107100722
Brown people suck.
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>>107094424
>scroll up
>plenty of people using punctuation
>scroll down
>plenty of people using punctuation
>all their posts are more interesting than the retarded zoomer that doesn't
Curious.
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https://x.com/Holo_Data/status/1993976130840539452
Yikes Hololive has even lost the lead on watch time to Nijisanji now. It's funny people keep saying vtubers are reclining. In reality it's just Hololive.
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>>107101960
the obvious solution is even more sponsored streams!
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>>107101960
I didn't know Phase is actually at 2% now. It doesn't seem like they did anything significant for the increase to happen.
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>>107092372
I remember when the mafumafu incident was called a nothingburger
Good times
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>>107097734
As long as reporters suffer zero accountability for fraudulent, incompetent, irresponsible, and malicious reporting, journalism doesn't exist.
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>>107094259
holy autism
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>>107102023
It was a nothingburger until Rushia decided it would be a good idea to send a bunch of discord chatlogs and DMs with her manager to a dramatber
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2-3 people circlejerk, 80 posts, and still no actual explanation as to how and why is this supposed to be a big epic tragedy
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>>107101960
No shit multiple talents not being paid and overworked then graduating led to a loss in viewership
In reality, it was almost always EN causing the problems both in Hololive and Nijisanji
The EN branch is also responsible for the talents having less freedoms and appeasing more to globalist censorship

Delete the EN branches, and all the "blackrock" or whatever poli-drama issues will solve itself
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Never heard of this guy, is he the IRL basis for Truck-kun?
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>>107096839
>>107097013
This is the scariest part of growing old. I cannot cope with the fact that my cognitive abilities will degrade so much that I might do stupid nonsense like this.
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>itt:defending retarded holoass devs who thought that it was a good idea
can't make this up.
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Do you think nothing of his mistaking brake and accelerator? You feel nothing about you is this?
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>>107102184
I don't know about that, you can't really blame Haachama exposing the Holo JP mean girls clique lead by Miko that has been bullying other girls on EN.
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>>107102500
I think he should have accelerated harder.
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If anyone wants to throw some strays at browns knowing they'll stick, this thread's your chance.
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>>107102617
Just like Riku
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>>107101163
>documentaries
They made exactly one documentary. And mostly because the people were accusing the police and the NEWS to trying to bury the thing. So of course they overcorrected the whole coverage.
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>>107102608
>Miko
Nah, it's led by the management. Always was and always is. They have the final say to everything.
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>>107102181
It's more than 80 posts if you count the previous thread, it's just the same retards seething entire day when people say no one cares about this nothing burger, they still can't answer the real damage of this socalled huge yab, and just keep repeating it's on mainstream news, before this during the whole artist thing they also got into the news and even found guilty because of the new law and yet ended up as nothing burger, I remember some retards say it's over for Hololive because they are gonna get blacklisted by artists
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The funniest part about this thread is that there are posters here desperately trying to convince people that it's a nothingburger

We get it, you want this to be a nothingburger so bad, no need to repeat it
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>>107104679
You have the chance to refute it by giving the answer of the real damage, yet you gave none so far, at least last time you give your shot saying they are gonna end because the artists gonna blacklist them even tho you ended up as a moron that got slapped by reality
Also
>no need to repeat it
Ironic
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>>107105433
You being this asspained and on constant damage control about it is pretty funny
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>>107105476
I'm not the one arguing in all day in two threads
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>>107105530
From the looks of it, it seems like you are

Kek
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>>107105581
This >>107104353 is my first post in this thread
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>>107105629
Sure whatever you say

Have fun with the "nothingburger" damage controlling lol
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>>107096960

nijisisters…
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>>107105663
I have fun reading all your seethe, I want to do some damage control but you haven't listed any real damage yet, cmon give me some chance to do damage control lol
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>>107105731
>I want to do some damage control
Kek, nice admission

>all your seethe
Nice projection

Lole
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I thought the funniest part of this whole incident was their apology where they tried to pretend it was just a coincidence to try and save face. Come on let's be serious nobody is buying that blatant lie. Just saying whatever they have to say to try brush it under the carpet. Like with Haachama where they tried to cast doubt on her accusations and allegations by blaming her stream on mental illness.
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>>107091550
Game is basically dead so hopefully this brings in more players
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>>107105772
My bad I should've put quotation marks for you to get it because you're too dense
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>>107105900
What was the hope for HoloEarth on the long run? Was it meant to be like a replacement platform for YouTube? If it got popular enough they could host all Hololive streams in the game and cut out the YouTube middle man taking 30% of everything they make on streams?
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>>107105900
They need to think how to make people play it regularly, if the goal is just to bring in more players they can easily achieve that with events etc with the talents but most people are going to stop playing completely after those events
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>>107106025
I assume all vtuber companies want to get as much of their revenue to come from sources outside of youtube as possible right? Nobody wants to lose 30% of revenue to a platform unless it's absolutely necessary.
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>>107102031
You do realise this goes both ways? Too much policing and interfering and you will end up with press like saudi arabia
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>>107099003
>It's funny how quickly that got brushed under the carpet.
Cover did some obvious damage control after the Haachama rant. While she does seem to suffer from a fear of stalkers considering how often Nenechi has to keep moving her house it makes sense why she worries about that stuff. Hololive can be vicious and they were quick to call Haachama crazy simply because she made some negative remarks about management.

>>107106025
>What was the hope for HoloEarth on the long run?
A way to have more paywall idol concerts without having to give a cut to other services, an easy way to encourage HoloPro unity in a game environment were unicorns are less likely to complain, and obviously a way to sell digital merch to fans. Of course it would be have been smarter to pay an experienced game developer to make HoloEarth instead of hiring a 100+ employees to chase after the Metaverse dream.
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>>107091550
Can I pay him to kill male collabers?
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>>107107335
Ah, outfitschizo. Getting new talking points.
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>>107107335
It's crazy how easily the western fanbase let that slide. Them calling Haachama nuts to try and deflect from her criticisms. Normally people would be up in arms if a big company tried to discredit a victim of bullying in their workplace by using their mental health against them. Especially if it's a young woman who is the target of it, they might as well call her hysterical or something. It's a terribly really scummy tactic to be gaslighting your own talent like that real black company shit.
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>>107100298
Yeah, that's how newspapers work. You can read the article online
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>>107107710
I know you're a schizo but
>big company bullying
That's false, if you deny Haachama mental illness which she admit herself she doesn't take her meds then it's not the company bullying her but it's the other talent and since it's talent vs talent people don't just jumping to a conclusion like the usual big company vs an employee, so you're framing this as big company vs a talent shows you don't know what you're talking about or being dishonest or both
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>>107108629
She said the company was predatory and took advantage of her when she was a teenager then ruined her youth. Then she also said the company hasn't paid her in months and that they give people preferential treatment. She also said management wouldn't let her graduate and that they never let her try any of her own ideas, that they keep on her on a tight leash

That's not about the talents at all.
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>>107108629
Who are you even quoting? My post never said anything you said there. I said "people would be up in arms if a big company tried to discredit a victim of bullying in their workplace" not that she said she was being bullied by the company.
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>>107105900
It won't. Nice try on the hate marketing though, Holo intern
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>>107108854
You're lying and time looping the same shit that has been explained countless times such as
>hasn't paid her in months
>rejecting her ideas
Even some nonsense like wouldn't let her to graduate, there is no such thing like you can't quit a job
And here is the thing, if you believe Haachama is completely sane and sober during that stream then you have to believe everything she said including the party clique etc, so do you believe other talents are bullying her or not?
>>107108906
>not that she said she was being bullied by the company.
Sure, but do you believe she got bullied by other talents or not?
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>>107109811
That's what I have been saying this whole time? I'm not sure why you ever interpreted it as me saying the company was the one bullying her. If she's being bullied on their workplace and then they try discredit her by using her mental health against her when she tries to speak up about it, that reflects awfully on the company. They would be gaslighting their own talents for the sake of attempting to damage control.
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>>107108160
>that's how newspapers work
They don't create their own content and just repost the note from other news source?
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>>107110239
I'm not the anon you are talking to about this but yeah that's fairly commonplace. Lots of news organizations will pay other news organizations to use their coverage for certain topics. Have you not heard of associated press? They serve news stories to over 15,000 other news organizations globally. That's the same sort of thing that's happening here these newspapers have a deal with oricon to use their reporting for their entertainment sections.
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>>107110205
Thanks for the confirmation, I just wanna know if you're a coward anti or not
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>>107110547
It's clearly not beyond Cover to lie to their audience for the sake of saving face. They did it in response to this HoloEarth incident too claiming it was a mere coincidence this guy just happened to be have the same name, appearance and lines that referenced the crash. And you'd have to be braindead to believe that.
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>>107094645
Half the stuff releasing on DMM these days is EOSing within a year. That said, the rates are generally more generous (like 200 pulls for pity and like 100 pulls a month). THAT said, half the stuff is also AI slop (but that doesn't seem to have an overwhelming correlation to what succeeds or fails).

You also see a lot of fast EOSes in the non-ero space, but I thiiiiiink those are all Chinese? It's more a function of the Chinese putting out so much stuff, so you see less JP stuff these days.
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>>107110618
If you think saying Haachama is mentally unstable during that stream is to save the company face then you might be retarded, if anything that's to save Haachama because that's serious allegations against other talents, if it's proven to be untrue then they don't need to punish Haachama and if it's proven to be true they have to take action to punish the bullies, the point is, the company barely got anything to do with it, maybe something like "they should've monitor their talents better to prevent something like this" but that's ridiculous and very controlling in fact they actually a black company if they do that, they can't really ban the talents hanging out each other
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>>107092414
that >killer is just a random npc guy with white clothes and a white hat lol
>>107091550
retard
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>>107110430
So they are just producing slop for the SEO.
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>>107111100
I'm not sure if you've ever had a job before or not but if there is bullying going on in a workplace between the employees the company is absolutely responsible for dealing with that. Most normal companies have entire policies and procedures in place around this kind of thing. It's absolutely bizarre that you think it would just be between the members and that the company shouldn't be involved. They would be liable for allowing bullying of employees to go on in their workplace.
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>game about cute girls who sing (i assume I never played it)
>devs add a reference to a tragic automotive death
lmao
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Can someone post that one 8ch screenshot? You know which one
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>>107111789
>They would be liable for allowing bullying of employees to go on in their workplace.
Haachama claim is that she got bullied because other talents don't invite her to their parties, let's just say that's true, how come it's the company fault? Those party aren't company events, go ahead explain, sounds like you don't even know what you're talking about, do you even watch the stream?
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>>107092414
But why? Even Hitler would be more tasteful
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>>107091550
I think what gets me about this is how out of the blue and odd it is. What would possess someone to add something like this into the game?
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>>107112495
i'm more inclined this is just some intern who thought it would be epic to sneak in real people references in the game. happens a lot since Cover likes to hire fresh graduates who have zero experience with office etiquette.
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>>107092414
>character based on an infamous killer
Who's the character and who's the killer?
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It's not just the appearance it's literally the name too. If it's just an intern doing it for the laughs then whatever, but it's more the fact that they let it get to this stage where it's in the published game is what's really concerning.

Another thing I think people on 4chan probably aren't aware of is that the leaker, the one that cover should have done something about after Miko directly mentioned it in that post-Haachama stream, is still on suki kirai with the same ip talking about this and the internal plans on what they're doing about all of this. Cover is unironically full of antis all the way to the top, it's all a bit strange right now
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>>107113725
someone called "Mr. Koro" I heard
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>>107113757
is this the same leaker who claimed Cover higherups were fuming mad and wanted Haachama's head after she did that stream?
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>>107107710
>Especially if it's a young woman who is the target of it, they might as well call her hysterical or something. It's a terribly really scummy tactic to be gaslighting your own talent like that real black company shit.
True, and Hololive gets away with a lot of nasty stuff because most fans still like the content. I believe many fans do realize that management is horrible but they don't want to damage the brand name so they still defend the company.

>>107109811
>there is no such thing like you can't quit a job
Some of the Nijisanji vtubers were stuck under a contract for over a year even though they clearly wanted to quit. The vtuber industry is a field where it's actually a major issue because corpos do lock them under an contract that stops them from being an indie vtuber until they can officially quit. It would make sense that Cover twisted her arm to stay in Hololive until next year so they wouldn't have to explain 9 graduations in less than a year.

>>107113968
Cover has been trying to get rid of Haachama since the Taiwan yab you don't need insider information to know that management will most likely fire her.
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>>107114701
>stuck under a contract
This doesn't mean you can't quit you disingenuous faggot
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>>107101960
>Checks calendar
>KZHcup League of Legends with lots of participants
>ROF-MAO anniversary
Kek, it requires their strongest livers to even make a dent on Holo's normal day viewership
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>>107109811
>Explaining
Your attempts at pardoning Holo management aren't actual explanations. Rushia has also complained about people bullying her in Hololive
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>>107109811
It's not that they can't quit. It's about the fine they have to pay if they quit mid contract or while signed on for a project (fes)
Then there is the social pressure. "But we need you. Won't you think about it again. You are letting others down. Can we talk about this after X"
Unless your job is flipping patties you can't just quit willy-nilly without consequences
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>>107116817
But then how can Haachama recover from this though? I get the feeling that a lot of people will just say that people only tune into her return stream, only when things like this happen to her but never her normal streams, and that's it. And then she'll validate that exact statement. And then she'll further spiral into depression.
Can she even trust her own Haatons at this point?
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>>107117001
It was obvious she can't trust her own fanbase when they were perfectly fine with Hololive getting Haachama thrown into a mental hospital even though Haachama herself said she hated it and that she wasn't crazy
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>>107117084
Drug Addicts also say the same thing when they're about to be admitted for rehab
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>>107091550
>Ver.1.1.0
Doesn't this imply the game is finished?
Where's the big launch hype? Who's playing?
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>>107117294
Holodrones would rather Haachama suffer than admit Holo management is shit
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>>107117084
damn, Japan must be quite the corporate dystopia if a corpo can just calk into your house and have you committed into an asylum
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>>107116657
>Rushia has also complained about people bullying her in Hololive
Yeah people streaming on her slot is bullying
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>>107103596
NTA but what you're saying proves his point that it was a big deal in Japan...
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>>107117084
She can't trust her own fanbase but she can trust (You) because you actually care and watch her not just using her for the narrative
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>>107117816
It was a big deal for the reactions against the police and the media. Not because the accident was particularly sinister.
Also the fucker died on prison and was stripped of various of their awards. Like the guy was punished correctly for his actions. It's not like a pedo that walk away with a suspended sentence.
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>>107117489
>Send her to rehab
>Holo wants her to suffer by sending her to rehab
>Don't send her to rehab
>Holo doesn't care about her mental suffering
textbook
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>>107117888
What does it matter who the nips are specifically angry at? Referencing the event at all is callous given that people died in that event not to mention how politically charged the topic is.
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>>107117888
>Goalpost
>moved
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>>107117001
>return stream
>implying they will ever let her return after that
She will be put on ice until she quits of her own accord.
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>>107117594
They called her parents that she herself said was abusive and got them to throw her in a mental hospital
>>107117688
>Pretending it was only that
Cope
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>>107117986
Why send someone who says they aren't mentally unstable to a mental hospital the second they start telling people about how abusive her job is?
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>>107119829
>Pretending it was only that
The fact that streaming on her timeslot is bullying according to her means she is just a menhera, even her most devoted fans already gave up defending her after so many lies, and the fact that you use her as your "proof" only shows that you're an EOP schizo, well it's already obvious you only pretend to care about them anyway, be honest for once, who's your oshi? post merch and membership
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>>107100722
your logic is deranged, they are, by definition, killers and criminals. The fact that it hurts your wittle fee-fee's is irrelevant
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>>107120755
>Rushia is just crazy
>Kson is just crazy
>Haachama is just crazy

What a coincidence
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>>107101163
why was it even a big deal? hundreds of people die every day in traffic accidents, it's tragic but who cares?
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>>107120382
>Not mentally unstable
>Literally has a draggingly long schizo arc
Anon.....
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>>107119324
Yea that's probably for the best, I really don't see how she can come back from that. It's already a breeding ground for hate and misinformations.
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>>107120853
It was a big deal because the old man was rich. He refused to accept responsibility and even then the authorities rolled out the carpet for him. That's what angered the nips. They accused the authorities of giving undue privileges to the rich. That's why it's a politically charged topic that Holo should not have been joking around with.
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>>107120934
>Schizo arc
Retard
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>>107121007
but he could have been some poor fisherman and what would have been the difference? accidents happen, doesnt make you a deranged murderer
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>>107092414
>insert a character based on an infamous killer
how do we know it's based on that guy?
i saw the tweet. it's a guy same name which is quite common in a normal clothing
also
>killer
isn't it an old guy having a car accident
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>>107120843
Kson never said she got bullied by other talents, how about you be honest and answer the question
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>>107121061
What? You mean that's HER actual definition of entertainment?!?!
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>>107120843
It's funny how that works isn't it. As long as they shut up and tow the company line they're good girls who are better vtubers than any others in the world. The moment they imply Hololive is any other than a paradise fans the company attempt to undermine and discredit them and the fans follow suit and attempt to destroy their reputations with slander.
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>>107121131
Are you stupid or just slow? The authorities wouldn't have rolled out the red carpet for a poor farmer.
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>>107121139
You've got to be delusional to think it's just a coincidence that the guy has the same name out of thousands of names, the same outfit out of probably hundreds of different combinations and has lines that reference the incident the guy was involved in our of the infinite number of things they could have had him say.
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>>107121439
The name is not that uncommon and there is no last name.
>the same outfit
I checked about him in both jp and en, he’s more depicted with white shirt and black suit.
I don’t know about the line in game.
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>>107121131
which reminded me, the killers of Junko Furuta actually got out of jail a few years ago. apparently these guys were sons of powerful people. otherwise, they would had been sentenced to death penalty.
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>>107121131
Did you miss his entire post or something? The thing that made people really angry about this in particular wasn't what he did as such. It was more who he was and how he was treated as a result. He was some kind of ex government big wig guy and when the police came after he just murdered a child and her mother with his car they didn't even arrest him. The police and media were both perceived by the public to be letting this guy get away with it because he was important in society. He had even been awarded an imperial medal "the Order of the Sacred Treasure". On top of that the guy himself refused to take responsibility for the accident and Japanese hate people who don't try to make excuses. He blamed it on the car saying it did phantom acceleration. But later analysis of the cars logs proved he was lying and that he was just slamming the accelerator over and over, never touching the brake pedal.
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>>107091550
>JP nijisissies making drama out of a nothingburger
It's so tiresome
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>>107123678
It's funny how Hololive fans always try to blame it on Nijisanji fans when Cover does something wrong. You could easily find examples of legitimate Hololive fans being critical of this situation. Even if you're being really strict about what you count as a legitimate fan.
https://x.com/teire_unk/status/1992993577400696914?
https://x.com/Taidanokami1229/status/1993118411732533275
https://x.com/pen92547/status/1993097647214018604
All of these guys have photos of their actual Hololive merch and/or photos of them in attendance at Hololive events or concerts or collabs and all of them were critical of Cover for this situation. Mostly complaining about how shitty management is and the fact they're letting down the hardworking girls with shit like this.

It's a mystery to me how western hololive fans became even bigger bootlickers than the JP fans. Normally it's Japanese fans that are known for this kind of delusional defense of companies.
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>>107121168
Trying to conflate doing a schizo arc for content and actual mental illness is ridiculous anon. I'm sure you know this and are just pretending.
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>>107123983
Western Hololive fans are the Disney adults of Vtubing.
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>>107123983
There's that pic of some retard using the same account when shitting on Holo while praising Niji. That's why it's easy to claim antis to be Nijisisiters
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>>107125359
Tourist detected
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Wtf I thought I was in /pol/.
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>>107121251
You can see it in this thread where Hololive does some psychopath shit and they call it a nothingburger
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>>107123678
>Nothingburger
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>>107091550
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>>107125386
They really do seem to think the company can do no wrong even more so than the Japanese fans somehow. And it's really strange because Japanese fans are notorious for defending big companies abusing their positions of power like Nintendo and shit.
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Why can't we all agree that we shouldn't be defending black companies no matter what they are? Are people here being paid to defend black companies?
I support the talents but not black companies. And no, don't single out and start blame-shifting to one particular company when they're all at fault.
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>>107126029
I'm sorry I'm not a snowflake that got offended over an edgy joke, maybe reddit is more of your speed
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>>107092414
hololive made a game?
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>>107091550
The financial implications of this will be negligible
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>>107092414
It's just a guy in a white shirt and hat. Asian people all look the same so it was only a matter of time before they made an NPC who looks like a serial killer by accident
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>>107129459
Probably, it's not as if HoloEarth was some big money making success and this is going to ruin it for them. It was already a flop so they haven't got much of anything to lose out on.
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>>107111789
trying to push for legal damages for workplace harassment for not being invited to private contractor organized gatherings is wild anon. Go ahead, try it.
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>>107120843
Who ever said Kson was crazy? She is misguided and got tricked by a scammer company, as she herself admits.
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>>107128519
Yeah, but it's funny how they call other Vtubers whores for doing something, but when Holo does it, suddenly all her fans have thick skin.
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>>107123983
holo vs niji is for the lowest common denominator, the most retarded people engage in this meaningless dick measuring
they are too retarded to see that the holo talents and niji livers,I think, at worst are indifferent to each other but there are a good amount who collab with each other
it's been said before, it's console wars for vtuber 'fans'
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>>107102021
>2%
rounding up doing so much heavy lifting you might as well call it arnold and make him a action movie star
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>>107131752
Does what? There are plenty of Holos that got called whores and what it has to do with being a snowflake or not? Do you think people insulting someone else because they got offended? Not to mention this isn't even about the vtubers themselves, just go to reddit pal, maybe you would get some snowflakes there that will condemn Cover for making edgy joke
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>>107130685
I wonder how much money they've sunk on HoloEarth by now for it just to flop hard
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>>107129043
My bad, they made a shitty metaverse
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>>107091550
>killer
He was just an old man in his 90s causing a car crash
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>>107102438
I've seen family members deteriorate like that, it still pains me to think about it. I don't wish that upon anyone.
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>>107092414
that's lame. I hoped it would be the based murderer of Shinzo Abe
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Notice how the Clara threads stopped after this happened , twitter troon nijisissies not sending their best
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>>107097358
what's the point of surrendering your license? just don't drive. it's not an addiction.
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>>107131254
Do you need to see examples in this board?
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>>107092464
It's funny how Nijisisters consistently expose themselves by rambling about dramafags whenever they get called out.
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>>107091550
they should add Nevada-Tan
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>>107141049
It's funny how Holodrones consistently expose themselves by rambling about Niji whenever they get called out
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>>107141105
>it's that easy for the nijinigger's mask to fall off
The absolute state
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>>107091550
I recall a regular complaint before was that there wasn't actually much holo stuff in this shitty metaverse thing. did that change yet?
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>>107091550
>we need to make a killer app
>I got an idea
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>>107099562
who could have guessed that hiring a bunch of retards would lead to this happening?
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>>107141179
Holodrone melty
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>>107141216
jej
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>>107141193
No. But they do have cameos of a child killer in their game
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>>107139520
Well Kojima did put Pekora in Death Stranding 2 so it's only fair if Cover puts Kojima in HoloEarth
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>>107135029
Hololive is already ending
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>>107117818
Correct
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>>107091550
There are Japanese games where they put historical serial killers in their games. How is that any different? Is it fine because it's already part of history or because the serial killer isn't Japanese?



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