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she's my fute bagel

If no bans are permanent then when is qwerty going to get unbanned? What is the condition?

>>107121018
Hopefully never

>>107119861
dewd won c:

>>107121018
She only said that to give herself and groomers an out. In reality bans are all permanent until she decides otherwise.

>>107121564
>she says something she doesn't believe
Wdsmbt

You guys don't like vtubers who work hard and fulfil promises huh

>>107121974
she's broken more than she's fulfilled

>>107120761
I found out about her due to her recent twitter post where she posted her bare feet.
I know nothing else about her but I love her now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhQgKRYtJ34
shondo says she takes clozapine. clozapine is usually only prescribed after 2 meds for schizophrenia have already stopped working. what if clozapine stops working as well? or the clozapine causes her heart to just stop one day?

>>107122255
She's said before she's aware of that. Kind of a ticking clock of doom unless there's advances in the field.

What is Shondo itinerary? Is she already at Nina's place?

>>107122209
That's 50% of this thread.
And half of those don't even watch her streams.

It's good that ShitpostGateway removed that video.

>>107125102
Which

https://x.com/PeterSweden7/status/1994011097838342430
Thoughts? Mmmm milk

>>107125268
Hitler mommy.

I wish we got that Grimmi collab. Schizo girls need to stick together.

https://x.com/ShiningScience/status/1994134801557934282
Thoughts? Anyone with cancer, hold on!
>>107125623
Oh good ridance

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why did nino copy shondo and become a girl with homophobia in her eyes and short hair and go to japan. is the professional artist and idol seriously in shambles that she got mogged at her own game by a schizophrenic child? what dopes!

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>>107125730
they weren't able to take data on their own mRNA based vaccines during covid and now they are trying to get some data while clearing their PR
>btw recently a german vtuber passed away from cancer, I think there was a thread

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>>107125730
>Russia has announced
I'm good.

>>107126228
>>btw recently a german vtuber passed away from cancer, I think there was a thread
I saw, very sad

>>107124515
I want to start watching her though.
At what times does she usually stream?

>>107126505
terrible tourist larp

The library i wanted to go to closed an hour ago, do you shoggas go to the library sometimes? How about regularly?

>>107126555
The fuck?
I genuinely want to start watching her, you retard.
Nice trips though, faggot.

>>107126770
mad

>>107126505
She usually streams at 6pm BST. Hasn't streamed in awhile though.

>>107126982
Thanks, man.

>>107126999
Nice trips, man

>>107126770
Don't take this thread that seriously

>>107127195
>>107127195

>>107126505
>>107126555
>>107126982
>>107126999
>>107127025
samefag

>>107127467
No, I'm personally just the last one

>>107125730
>Thoughts?
It needs at least 10 years of testing, imo they should experiment on Ukrainians. Just infect them with cancer and then try out the vaccine.

>>107127572
>Just infect them with cancer
Is that how that works?

>>107127970
I know scientists can induce cancer in mice so I assume it would be possible to give someone cancer, although it would obviously fall under human experimentation.

>>107128009
I think people with cancer would already be happy to be experimented on to rid them of their cancer, and i think there are already plenty of Ukranians with cancer

So Shondo chose to go to Japan knowing she had a collab with Grimmi about buying gifts for poor kids? What a bitch.

https://x.com/lavitalenta/status/1993371471843148084
Thoughts? Based?
>>107128040
>knowing
High expectations

>>107128040
The collab was going to be GFL

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It seems she is in japan, when is nina's next stream?
>>107128177
>GFL
What's that

>>107128036
I wouldn't be so sure, if you're doing experimental lab rat stuff you can't also do chemo for example because then the data you provide to the researchers would be worthless. It's a tough choice, for some types of cancer chemo has a success rate of around 50% but for others it's between 10-20%.

>>107120761
Michael's cocksleeve

>>107125730
i doubt it works well, cancer aren't like viruses or other pathogens, cancer cells are your own cells on steroids, any biomarker on them would also be present in your healthy cells.

>>107128198
they can also test for the combination of chemo + the vaccine, so what you're saying is not entirely true.

>>107128850
Idk, but your cells are regulated by your body, whereas the cancer cells are not
This is why, from what i've read, you can overfeed and kill your cancer with a certain compound(?) because it doesn't know when to stop taking it in, whereas our normal cells handle it just fine
I'm not an expert on this, though

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I love her!

>>107128196
appears to be this Sunday
she's headed into a big exam season now though

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I love her the most

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I hate her!

>>107129682
I hope she manages to pass her exams

Shondo will catch the Japanase cold and die in 2 weeks.

>>107129856
Naur...

https://weebcentral.com/chapters/01J76XZ08BBXTYGA2V58NH0V9N I wonder if shondo has read the Corpse Party mangas, they are really hot.

>>107130043
Horrible piece of "art"

>>107129749
You'll be banned before 2027.

>>107129749
That's incorrect, I love her the most!

https://x.com/ADHDForReal/status/1994209649218703474
Thoughts?

>>107130408
hi Gloomburt Cursesnack

>>107120761
Michael status?

>>107130485
>everyone I don't like will be banned

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>>107131383
Applying to jobs after putting finishing touches on my resume and portfolio webpage for the past few weeks

>>107131425
That's been the case so far.

>>107131449
Good luck

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>>107131494
Thanks, I'll need it

>>107131425
That's unironically how it should work

Who else is unable to stop thinking about the shonfeet? Why do they look so good?

I need Shontoes in my mouth so bad, /vt/.
So fucking bad.
You have no idea how bad.

>>107132058
They were mid 2/10 at most

I wonder how Chicken is holding up

>>107132418
probably plotting revenge against her awful community who perpetuate the behavior they seek to constantly condemn.

>>107132484
Chicken will trhow KFC at Shondo in Japan

>>107132418
not well

wat is tis about tis girl tat everyone is talking about er

So since Shondo herself said that she doesn't need multiple phones WHY DID SHE HAVE MULTIPLE PHONES?
WHO WAS PHONE?

>post feet for more than 1 million people to see
>doesn't stream
What did she meant by this?

Revenge is a dish best served... spicy.

spicy turkey yummy

>>107133512
Someone check if she sent the tweet from her ipad

Any updates from her?

>>107132543
Gay thread

>>107135709
you probably made it, FF

>>107133512
Big Mike of course

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What do you do when this happens?

>>107120761
pettan is getting good at drawing feet

So was the thing about Dewd going to Japan true or not?

>>107137224
He has not answered my whisper, so most likely yes, that is the case

>>107137224
Are you retarded? You've had it confirmed multiple times. Stop being a faggot

>>107137157
take my seat in the cuck chair

>>107137157
https://files.catbox.moe/bz5zc8.mp4
This

>>107137224
he didn't tell you?

>>107137482
this slop gives me energy

https://files.catbox.moe/ooqifs.png
https://files.catbox.moe/0c8avq.mp3

>>107137611
Girls don't pee, that was sho

We should have an era with more (you) artwork
For being a big vtuber, she doesn't really have many artists who draw her viewers' mascot

>>107137787
People got sick of having to draw NTR I guess

I will win shoggers, just watch

>>107137832
it really speaks ill of your confidence that you automatically identify with whoever is NOT fucking shondo

ywnmi

>>107137901
>t. cuck in denial

>>107130408
it's not anybody else's fault that you have terrible taste
https://files.catbox.moe/ouiq7o.png

>>107138108
That is art, but the thing posted before is not

>>107138253
very hypocritical for a christcuck to say that. not that they really care about things like that, though; it's obviously all pretend to virtual signal, arrogantly claim that their own abusive beliefs actually come from an omnipotent cosmic dictator, and justify being awful human beans.

>>107138426
Or, perchance you are simply mistaken about us

>>107138555
no, I know you better than you know yourself. if you had any self awareness, you wouldn't be a christcuck.

>>107138608
Why?

>>107138744
no time to argue so here is an AI-generated response for you to think about:

1. Socialization makes people blind to the impact of their own institutions.
People raised within a religious tradition often assume: a) their worldview is normal, b) their moral code is universal, c) the harm caused by the institution is exaggerated or unrelated to the faith.

2. Christians often separate “good intentions” from real-world effects, Christian doctrines are used to justify: a) homophobia, b) misogyny, c) colonialism, d) forced conversions, e) political discrimination, f) victim-blaming under the guise of “sin” or “temptation”.

When Christians say “we’re about love,” critics point out that they are ignoring these consequences.

3. Compassion is sometimes expressed selectively, Christian compassion is most often contingent on: a) accepting Christian norms, b) conforming to religious morality, c) not challenging doctrine.

This selective empathy is self-contradictory.

4. Christians sometimes view their moral compass as divinely validated. When someone believes their morality comes from God, they: a) dismiss criticism, bypassing introspection, b) assume moral superiority, c) minimize harms as “misinterpretations”, d) overlook how their faith causes real harm.

5. Some Christians behave kindly interpersonally but support harmful policies structurally. a) “love thy neighbor” rhetoric coexisting with anti-LGBT legislation, b) charity combined with resistance to systemic change, c) personal empathy but political exclusion.

Religion makes otherwise kind people condone or commit moral atrocities, and it is a tool for morally bankrupt people to attempt to justify their abuse.

>>107139227
I wasn't trying to argue, i just asked why you think what you think (wanting your own words)
Though, moral subjectivism doesn't work and the only way to have objective morals is to have them from God

https://youtu.be/_xx8IkcbAYo
Thoughts? Would you carry this on you?

I hope Shondo didn't have to stay over night in Shindia

>>107139540
If morals come from your imaginary dictator, they are subjective by definition. The idea that 'Christian morality is objective' is simply a dishonest appropriation of certain ideas and successes contrary to religious indoctrination, specifically the scientific method, in areas where they do not apply. Your claim, using more precise wording, is not that God's morals are objective, but that they are supreme. This exposes how fundamentally authoritarian is your religious ideology.

>>107139771
Is authoritarianism bad? Why and how can you make that claim?

>>107139991
Empirically:
Across history and across countries today, authoritarian governments produce worse outcomes: more corruption, more censorship, more political repression, more economic instability, and far higher rates of human rights abuses. These aren’t philosophical guesses—they’re consistent findings in political science, comparative economics, and development studies.

Moral reasoning:
Authoritarianism concentrates power in the hands of a few and removes mechanisms of accountability. When people cannot challenge, criticize, or replace those who rule over them, abuse becomes inevitable. Any system that structurally prevents individuals from defending their own interests is morally defective.

Practical reasoning:
Societies function best when people can openly share information, correct mistakes, and participate in shaping the rules they live under. Authoritarian systems suppress feedback and dissent, which means errors compound, leaders become disconnected from reality, and the system collapses or lashes out violently.

Not just a cultural preference:
The case against authoritarianism does not rely on “Western values” or personal taste. It relies on measurable harm, predictable incentives, and a long historical record: authoritarianism restricts human flourishing, reduces innovation, and increases suffering.

I don't want ai responses

>>107140064
Too bad, I am busy. The AI response is correct, though.

>>107140082
Not true, it presupposes that you can get an "ought to" from "is" statements, such consistent empiricists and atheists can't overlook

Which*

>>107140082
It's not though, western democracies have just devolved into looting the state through entitlement spending and carveouts, as well as stifling innovation through regulation and dismantling of talent pipelines, demonstrating the logical endpoint of mob rule. Meanwhile, autocracies flourish and leapfrog the moldy democracies of yesteryear.

Democracies get lost in endless bureaucracy, that is fixed within authoritarian regimes

Shondopolis is an authoritarian aristocracy

Shondopolis ruled by unbecomunism

You DID leave a message on the kudoboard right anon?

>>107140151
No, it does not. This is how ethical utilitarianism works:
1) Arbitrary normative axiom (ought): we should reduce suffering.
2) Empirical data (is): authoritarian systems produce more suffering.
3) Conclusion (ought): therefore, we should oppose authoritarianism.

The naturalistic fallacy occurs when one omits the normative axiom, "Authoritarianism causes X, therefore authoritarianism is morally wrong" (fallacious attempt at employing utilitarianism), or "this violates God's norms, therefore it is morally wrong" (fallacious attempt at employing Divine command theory, which also has problems in the first premise as there is no evidence that there is such thing as "God's norms" to begin with), or "this violates certain moral rules, therefore it is morally wrong" (fallacious attempt at deontology).

The arbitrary axiom is what makes the difference. Then, the matter is not one of logical validity, but of soundness. In the case of utilitarianism, soundness is no issue, because it is not required that the axiom is objectively true, the axiom is recognized for what it is: an arbitrary, subjective choice motivated by people's desires. Divine command theory or deontology, on the other hand, have to deny what they are to try to justify themselves.

>>107140500
You're just trolling. If their premises are based on inverting observed reality, your arguments hold no weight. Authoritarian regimes are always miserable for most people, and they fall apart relatively quickly; having going through them sets back the civilisation that succumbed to them by many decades, or sometimes even centuries.

>She's currently sleeping in the same bed with Nina
Shoncucks eating it up like usual.

>>107141293
It's not cucking unless nina grows a penis and gets shondo pregnant.

>>107141318
cuck fingers typed this

>>107140802
Yup, why?

It's not dewd you should be worry about in Japan. It's FF ;)

>all the mods online
>kudoboard posting, dewd, ff, and cuck posting
wonder what they're talking about, maybe even with shondo since it wouldn't be the first time

>>107142222
Imagine being such a jealous bitch you have to make up shit to be jealous about
Extreme cuckoldry c:

>>107142293
knowing hes this mindbroken that he can't invade into p5w fills me with joy, rat faggot

>>107142293
i'm talking about in mod chat and i'm not him you annoying faggot

spoilers: she's not sleeping, she's just laying beside Nina :)

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>>107142371
Oh, you're jealous of the mods, totally doesn't make you a cuck lol irl

My kudoboard post was the best c:

Shondo did an oopsie
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20251128/p2a/00m/0na/007000c

>>107143261
which one was it?

Why does she constantly put on a child voice even when she doesn't stream?

c:

Process my refund ffs

>>107145771
sorry shigger, shes too addicted to the internet to do any real work

>>10714571
Just do a chargeback. She will have to pay a fee for it as well. It's the least you can do after she banned you and refused to process your refund.

surely the first thing on her mind right now is caring about some banned anti's refund while she's meeting a friend on a dream vacation

shondo, I will vote with my wallet!!

>>107147595
Sent a request weeks ago, lazy bitch went on vacation while ignoring business emails. I may actually need to chargeback

>>107147595
If you run a storefront you have a legal obligation to operate it within accordance of the rules and regulations of wherever you live. Providing refunds is part of that. If someone is an anti or not is irrelevant. I don't even count that guy as an anti since it's probably that guy who got banned just for being a bigot in Discord and nothing to do with Shondo.

>>107148433
Who?

>>107148461
That Pancake guy or whoever.

>>107148610
>pancake = kaz
i believe it

>>107148138
oh you're the dumb fuck that put the request in during the subathon then cried the whole time that she wasn't replying lol irl

glad so see this is still the worst thread on this board, hope you're all doing well

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>>107144436
kek. That must of been one hell of a nose powdering

>>107149872
# is worse

>>107132418
free my shogga chicken

In a just world he would never have been banned.

>>107140802
No p5w faggots gatekept it then said to message them next time they cause drama instead of just not doing it lol.
Do you think the subway slammer will strike

https://x.com/SevensSecondAcc/status/1994642911712149751
He's not doing so well after I got his discord banned again lol lmao

>>107151243
Kill yourself, Forest_Faggot

with their being a secret clique of groomers why should anyone stick around?

>>107151243
imagine if you put this much effort into literally anything else in your life

>>107151243
bee nise

>>107151389
they shouldn't that's why shondo is ok with banning or holding accountable anyone else BUT them

she's such a piece of shit lazy bitch karen twitchwhore

honestly listening to Bones again makes me think i was destined to find /shon/. for some reason the aesthetic fits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qp6Cf2J1nk

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well, I do have superior aesthetic taste after all. going to listen to the bgm later maybe and meditate on TTD (Total Tranny Death)

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxEl1_Pxy6iPRxtBZ9gePQvTXAOYqSp-Ph

I bet Shondo feels this way

>>107152493
welcome back, emperor

>>107123717
my bro has been on it for twenty three years. anyway like i said she should eat salmon and nac. you can get the dose lowered on good behaviour

Hopefully they bond together, they've seemed quite lonely lately

She is getting pounded in japan, keep losing shitty cucks

>>107153976
>She is getting pounded in japan
yeah, by Nina

>>107144436
She had to flush all the drugs she didn't have a prescription for at the airport. It was enough to somehow backflow all the toilets.

>>107141215
Saying that we do have theories for "ought to"s doesn't mean they're valid
Logical speaking, you can't get an "ought to" conclusion from "is" premises without introducing the idea of objective morals which allow the logical existence of "ought to"s.
Why should we remove suffering? Because suffering is "bad"? Suffering being a "bad" thing won't ever logically have the conclusion that we "ought to" twice or avoid suffering. The only things we have are the premises "suffering exists" and "suffering is bad", but logically speaking, we can't say we "ought to" avoid suffering as a result of those premises

>>107156076 (me)
>twice
Reduce*

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Anything new in the discord? Good morning

>>107156116
she's in Japan having fun with Nina.

>>107156076
> Why should we remove suffering?
Because I don’t like suffering, and neither do almost all human beings. At the foundation of every moral framework, secular or religious, there is always some basic human value or aversion like this. The difference is that utilitarianism is transparent about its starting point, while Divine Command Theory hides its own normative assumptions behind claims of divine authority.

DCT also started off based on certain human preferences, but then through generations of indoctrination, exploiting people's tribalistic instincts, it has lost is own plot; nowadays, the core assumption is that we ought to obey God. That’s just another ungrounded “ought.” Historically, this system has been wrapped in layers of dogma that obscure the fact that a small group gets to define what “God’s commands” even are. This creates a hierarchical moral structure where certain groups are burdened with rules that primarily serve the interests of others who remain exempt. Utilitarianism, by contrast, puts everyone's suffering on the same level and doesn't rely on lying about its own principles.

>>107156339
>Because I don’t like suffering, and neither do almost all human beings.
You still can't get "we ought to reduce/ avoid suffering" from the premises "suffering exists" and "no one likes suffering". It's a non sequitur. You can't get duties or responsibilities from "is" premises, they can only result in more "is" statements
>historically-
False

>>107156488 (me)
The most you could get from the two premises is "no one hates non-suffering" or "everyone likes not suffering"

>>107156325
Any more details?

>>107156488
> You still can't get "we ought to reduce/ avoid suffering" from the premises "suffering exists" and "no one likes suffering".
I'm not claiming to be doing that. There is no logically valid justification for any normative axiom (they're called axioms for a reason), no matter what moral framework you use; utilitarianism is simply more honest about the nature of its foundations.

> False
You can try denying it all you like, but the facts are clear. You have been trying to do just that during these very conversations.

>>107156655
Nina made her coffee and she went out with her today. She also hated the Tokyo airport. So expect her to talk about that when she comes back to streaming and talks about the trip.

>>107156716
My point isn't that no one can claim "ought to"s, i'm saying that atheistic and empiricist paradigms can't, while theistic paradigms can
And utilitarism is still claiming "ought to"s, the "honesty" of it is due to it being a liberal theory of ethics which is just a type of hedonism that replaces pleasure with happiness as the opposite value of suffering

>>107156742
Thanks, i wonder what they went to see. Maybe the church i replied with, hopefully
I hope they don't get harassed, assaulted, groped, raped or killed

https://x.com/CiaranMurchadha/status/1994541129690206379
Thoughts?

>>107156488
>false
give an explanation why or just admit you got raped you mental manlet
no way this cuck old enough to post here arguing like he's in preschool

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>>107152493
a week of getting raped as tubby and you decide to switch to your larp i see, funny 'you' weren't here the whole time
also lol irl picrel

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full unedited screenshot btw

>>106259999
>>106259999
>>106259999
>posts proof he edited a screenshot
can't edit the archive lil gup GAPED and RAPED LMAO

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>>107156946

>>107156782
You’re making a distinction that doesn’t actually hold up. Theistic paradigms do not have a logical pathway to “ought” any more than secular ones do. Your religion simply asserts its normative axioms, and then treats that assertion as self-justifying (invalid, circular logic).

Historically, “God’s commands” were human social norms retroactively sacralized. All religious moral codes began as culturally contingent rules designed for survival, cohesion, or hierarchy (the latter becoming more and more relevant as the churches grew). DCT is not a source of objective morality, but a post-hoc justification for pre-existing human preferences, fears, and social priorities, beneath layers of obscurity engineered to make them seem like they are more than what they really are.

You call utilitarianism “liberal hedonism,” but that’s a description of its value structure, not a flaw. It doesn’t hide behind an imaginary supernatural authority to disguise the underlying value choice, which makes it intellectually honest. Ironically, the Jesus character in the Bible condemns hypocrisy and dishonesty, yet to be a Christian you need to be a hypocrite and a liar; the whole framework is self-defeating.

>>107156946
He's never living this down. You know it hurt him badly when he had to backpedal and post fake ops to hide his melty of shame.
Poor showing.

None of you are based loliphiles and it shows.

https://x.com/NinanininVT/status/1994736196271182128

cute!

>>107156971
>Theistic paradigms do not have a logical pathway to “ought” any more than secular ones do.
Yes they do
>Your religion
I'm not talking about any religious paradigm, just theistic ones in general
And I'm not talking about what is true here, but what is coherent & consistent. You cannot be a consistent empiricist or atheist and make "ought to" statements. Why? Because those worldviews don't allow them to exist logically; meanwhile, the theists can give an account for "ought to"s that is consistent with their worldview and which is logically valid. Why? Because their theism introduces morality as a possibility with an ontological source
>You call utilitarianism “liberal hedonism,” but that’s a description of its value structure, not a flaw.
I didn't comment on that
>It doesn’t hide behind an imaginary supernatural authority to disguise the underlying value choice, which makes it intellectually honest
No, it makes it arbitrary
And you can't just reduce the theist worldview to just "imaginary supernatural authority", you can't prove it's imaginary (this is where your argumentation always breaks down, btw)
And also, that is false; the theistic worldview doesn't introduce an "authority", just a new premise that validates the step from "is" statements to "ought to"s
>to be a Christian you need to be a hypocrite and a liar; the whole framework is self-defeating.
Incorrect, you just project your opinions upon a paradigm's structure, which obviously results in a paradigm that is not what it actually is

>>107157200
Gross

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>making up fake ops for damage control

>>107157200
Rape protocol in action

>>107157200
now kiss