>Michi makes yuribaiting her main content>Milks the fuck out of parasocial shippers>Backtracks when she has to face the consequences of her own actions
Mono won.
>>107140007Can't beat the cock
>>107139932Who's Michi?Michiru?
I don't care about d*sc*rd
>>107140107She's letting her mods take the fall so she can keep up appearances
>>107140093Michi Mochievee. Became popular for purple yuri, shipping between her and Numi. Clips of their yuribaiting is all over Youtube.
Yurifags are intolerable, they should be avoided at all costs
WHO
>>107140179>numiBut numi already has """"numibro""""
>>107140237
Wow, suddenly the thing that 95% of female vtuber do:>Lebians is my sole content/personalityIs bad?
>>107140338Make your entire career about>yuribaiting>hornybaiting>goon jokesNOOOOOOO STOPhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51X1DArB5ZA
>>107140426Give me an example of another female streamer who set a 50k subathon goal to go meet her "girlfriend" just to meet up with the guy who always shows up on her streams. No one has milked yuri shipping as far as Michi has.
>>107139932A turkey voting for christmas lmao. I'd never have seen any of her "content" if not for the purple yuri shit
It's amazing how these nobodies butch whatever little fanbase they have lmao
>>107140179Oh, you mean that one ex-NijiID chick. I have no idea why people are surprised, she shipped herself with Mysta constantly. Anyone shocked was just willfully ignorant.
>>107140687Michi is one of the top EN vtubers
>>107140449the comments under that video made me throw up fucking cringe redditors
>>107139932Guess sixteeninmono got mad
A worse example>Enna does an offcollab with Petra in Japan>makes it a yuribaiting affair, tells extremely lewd stories like her panties getting soaked with coffee, and going underwear shopping, spanking each other's butts, discussing sexual topics....etc.>later on twitter, Luca revealed he was actually there for everything, in fact he was right next to Enna when her panties were soaked and went underwear shopping with them.>all the lewd yuribaiting stories take on a much different tone when you realize Luca is there for everything>the lewd kissing offcollab they did where they discussed lewd fanart? Luca was literally there in the other room.>later Petra describes how they actually lived together with Luca that whole time in the same hotel. >Luca's revelations put previous evens in far different context. 2 weeks after this "secret oflab" Enna called into his 1 million stream and gave him a 'sexy voice' and spanked her ass for him. This was weird at the time, but makes more sense when you realize they had just lived together for months
>>107140890doesnt he know he couldve gotten both of them if he asked nicely, didnt need to tear them apart. unicorns are a thing.
>>107140949>her panties getting soaked with coffeeShe actually shit herself, didn't she?
>>107139932Nah the purple yuri thing was pushed by the fans 100% and they were always weird about itI saw people HERE who seemed to genuinely believe that Michi and Numi were dating
Who?
>>107141174
>>107140949Still not as bad as having multiple subathon goals, which your viewers had to donate and reach, before you continue your fake lesbian relationship. only to take the money to travel to your e boyfriend and get fucked by him. because that’s what michi did.
>>107141244Top ten EN Vtuber by hours watched
>>107141250>she put a heart next to her friend's nameWhoa they must be so in deep romantic loveWomen NEVER do this
>>107141174>Pushed by the fansYeah, after they themselves pushed it. Everyone that went to twitch con and seen them said they were joined at the hip
>>107139932>Kurosanjibaited more than any ex-Niji>only gets a catalogue thread nowSomeone explain this.
>>107139932so whats the issue here? they broke up?
>>107141357See>>107141250Issue is business yuri to the extreme (100k+ of donations in a month) only to do a rug pull
>>107141357They were never in a relationship. The parasocial shippers got too much for them just like all the other cases of people who make shipping their main content.
>>107141411>rug pullDid she lore drop on her main?
>>107140179Isn't she Kuro's literal girlfriend? How tf do people make yuri ships with her?
>>107139932The reason why this is happening is obvious.
>>107141348>Everyone that went to twitch con and seen them said they were joined at the hipOKAnd?
>>107141484Not yet. But I don’t think she’ll ever do one considering yuri baiting, gfe-ish content and pretending to be a girl failure is her main source of income
Apparently Mono followed Numi just yesterday; meaning him and Michi made it official. It has to be why Michi doesn't want ship-art and is suddenly doing all this shit.
>>107141522she ditched kuro after he fell off. her current boyfriend is mono, a music producer who frequently shows up in her streams and is there to support her. they met up when she went to america
>ships herself with a male when in Niji >immediately dumps him when he's less successful than her>yuri baits instead >gets upset that people take the ship seriously and don't let her just quietly drop it She's not a good person and never has been. She's manipulative at best
>take the indie pillmany such cases
>>107141522No. I think they tried at one point but were incompatible. She does have a white male music producer that helps with all her music and was on her subathon 24/7 tho.
>>107141555I'm saying that the purple yuri shit wasn't 100% fan pushed. They themselves and other creators helped push that shit as well
>>107139932I came into this thread expecting at least one anon to spam all this supposed yuri shipping artwork she "hates".I am disappointed.
>>107141522She leeched him when he was Mysta and dropped him when he became a nobody
>>107141694No shit, Enna's 'bestie' is a lying manipulative POS.
>>107141694But she's Ex-Niji so she's good and anyone who criticizes her is le seething nijisister!!! (for the autists, this is sarcasm)
>>107141899Just go to her twitter she retweets every ship art which makes this announcement even more retarded
>>107141899She and Numi retweet the yuri shipping artwork they supposedly hate all the time
>go to her twitter>most recent retweet is kuro ship art that looks like she's pegging himkek
>>107141923Which is honestly really funny. The dude literally moved countries to be closer to her but when he lost all his gachis she stopped pretending to care.
>>107142068Is this her attempt to kill the purple yuri shippers?
>>107141694People were way too willing to overlook a ton of flaws many ex-Nijis had the moment that Selen got terminated. Its not like they ever had her track record of being reliable and trying their damnedest to lift up something like the entire English branch along with Pomu for example, all someone like Michi was known for was being a +1 to Mysta. At least that made it to where she could make a living compared to many ex IDs, but that was it.
>>107141420>They were never in a relationshipDropped
>>107142144Michi isn't even bi she's crazy for dick, she just knows that doesn't earn you money
>>107141687michi cried because of him yet she didn't cry when saying goodbye to numi at the airport while numi cried (both in thailand and america)it's obvious who michi truly loves.
Oh no, I pretended to be lesbian for months just to make a buckHow could you possibly think it was serious?!
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1ogt6g9/thoughts_on_this_vtuber_6_numi/>What are you thoughts on Numi?>
Another vtuber who is a fake grifter manipulating fans and telling sob stories?
Maybe because I'm not a vtuber, but why would you be upset with your model being lewded.Its not you, its the model.
>>107142068most of her current audience barely knows who that is
>>107139932parasocial FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!
In Niji she was notorious for being a whore basically. Any time she's on stream it just become a bunch of sex and party talk.
>>107141522She's with sixteeninmono now
>>107139932>>107140179I saw the extend clips. Michi and Ferrovox gently asking was to call people "weird" then not explain further or give examples of that. After Michi starts calling herself "straight", several times a stream,--even to people irl off stream--and has done so since which kind of bitch slaps the people who supported her talking about her sexuality before all the shipping stuff and watching Michi goon to females. Now this when the message from before barely had time to get around.Just a really odd overreaction to I guess some people reacting to purple yuri when Michi and Numi get brought up in another stream? No idea what it's like in those servers but doubt it's too different from the broadline white knighting/babying the streamer to eat that goes on outside of it.
>>107139932Friendly reminder that Michi on her stream pretended that she didn't understand what yuribaiting means and went all 'what do you mean I'm baiting, I'm open about my preferences' when she clearly knew that it referenced her and Numi's bit. Fake ass bitch.
A lot of parasocial degenerates ittReminder that you are not welcome in the the Vtubing community.You will NEVER be friends with her.You will NEVER be her boyfriend.You are and viewer, and she is an Entertainer. Stop being a parasocial weirdo and take your meds.
>>107142600Kill yourself Michi
>>107142600Yeah and she's a piece of shit person too. Nothing she says is intelligent or funny.
>>107142585I can't believe that I thought Michi would need saving from Numi to prevent her heart getting broken when it was actually Numi who would need saving from Michi.
>people really thought Mika is gay?????
>>107139932>just take the indie pill
>>107142600Sent a vtuber a cum tribute and she dm'd me on twitter saying she liked it.Speak for yourself
Nijisisters were right about her. Leech and clout chaser pretending to be a good naive girl.
>>107139932I'm just gonna spam it more until she accepts, let's go full stockholm syndrome.
>>107142823>pretending to be a nice girlHow the fuck do you get that impression from her. Her collabs with Enna are femcel(derogatory) central
>>107142901based
>>107139932I am aging myself but I remember when people liked having fun...
>>107142803Was it ohkaiya?
So, I can't believe anything she says now.
>>107139932Can't wait for the LLD from Michi followed by the google docky from Numi.
>>107139932Can't blame her. Some fans know how to run a good meme into the ground. And this isn't just exclusive to yurifags. Even all those girls who used to subtly encourage "pettan" jokes got sick of it eventually when they have to hear those jokes day in and day out.
at least now numi can finally focus on lucy again
>>107143071>subtly encourage>selling actual wooden cutting boards as merchthe vtubers themselves drove the HOLY BOOBERS/FLATTIE memes into the ground
>>107141174Nah man they pushed it far harder than anyone I've ever seen doing yuri baiting. To the point where they get para social with each other--getting triggered when one doesn't call for a day; freakin camera in the irl bedroom; the half naked cuddling stuff. Getting triggered when comments in youtube say it's all fiction. The insane hours off stream where lovely dovely talk "is worst", Numi just living in the sabathon among all the money spend on gifts and just wood craving a spoon.For a bit they put waaay too much effort in all the details. If they didn't do half the stuff they did the shipping fans would have never become what they've become. I just kind of feel sorry for the people who brought in.
>>107143013Numi is a seasoned yuri baiter tho. She did this before with other women, also only for money. None of them care of their fake relationship is over
>>107143111It wasn't vtubers that made those kinds of jokes unfunny through sheer repetition
But if I point out how most ex-nijis are retarded grifters I would get called a seething nijisister
Is Kuro still in Indonesia?
>>107143210yes and I wouldn't be surprised if he kills himself soon
>>107143166What streamer has ever been able to cultivate an actually funny chat? It's impossible. At best you have people who read out funny bits and call out really lame jokes regularly enough that they have a slightly better hit rate, but it's never more than like 5%, even in Northernlion's chat or someone else who really works at it. Vtubers are way too wary of alinating people for calling out bad jokes and wierd comments to ever do this kind of culling, so their audience if anything gets worse and worse over time.
>>107143169Just because Michi is a clout chasing whore, doesn't mean the rest are, anon
>>107143137Have you seen what happened with Sinder? Sinder didn't perform at Numi's concert and Numi's friend group dogged-piled on her. Shylily said even said this, "She's only sorry she got caught because Sinder knows full well that messing with that friend she fucked with (Numi) will mean the end of her career, because if you're not good standing with that person (Numi) then you're not good standing with like probably 80% of the indies."
>>107139932PARASOCIAL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS
>>107143394There's plenty of ex-Nijis that aren't retarded clout chasers. Its just that the retarded ones tend to be very vocal like Michi, Kyo, or Reimu's reincarnation.
>>107139932>grift being LGBT because /u/bait is trendy and pays>rugpull them once you make bank so you can prep to announce youre pregnantI know the default stance is the vtuber is always right but is this not a cancelable offense in Reddit land?
>>107143394I've never heard Michi numberfagging. Numi thought admitted to social climbing. Michi does however like to say how she is "not an idol" then feels the need to spam covers and make a 3D showcase she doesn't like doing.
>>107143597>pic related
>>107143608>I've never heard Michi numberfaggingher bestie is a numberfag
>>107143289i hate male vtubers but man my empathy is kicking in. Poor guy got strung along all the way to a shithole of a country
is numi pissed that purple yuri is over or was she hoping for it to die too?
>>107143535What has Marie done other than be horny for other women's boyfriends?
>>107143673He's filipino let's not get carried away bro Mika lived in much better conditions
>>107143673I think he moved there because it’s cheap and he is/was 300k in debt. And maybe he and Michi are actually a thing and have been for years. Who knows. Michi only dropped him publicly for more successful VTubers, doesn’t mean they don’t spend time together privately
>>107143673He's britbong but also half flip, he's used to shithole countries from both sides. Indonesia is only yet another one.
>>107143361NL's chat is probably in the top 2% percentile of funny streamer chats out there. It helps that he regularly bounces off whatever they say so people are more prone to try to at least be a little witty when they engage.
>>107143692bully, manipulate, spam 4chan on cooldown, make fun of Doki's attempt
>>107143754Kuro by his own admission lives within two hours from Michi and watched the cat Michi got--with her health problems--and lived at Michi's place and streamed there while Michi went to America to visit Numi.
>>107139932Surprised it took this long. Yuribaiting is fine and all, but it can get out of hand very, very quickly. This is the first time I've seen someone ban ALL shipping, but snapping at shippers itself isn't all that uncommon.Hope her fanbase can settle down properly and has a smooth transition. Really though, the more I see shippers, the more I understand why my oshi so rarely yuribaits compared to everyone else.
>>107143730In fairness, Kuro seems like a second generation immigrant brit. He probably was a Brit first and SEA second when it came to home life or culturally. Granted I dont know how much of a downgrade it is to move from anywhere in Bongland to Indonesia.>>107143692Even beyond her PL controversy with that groomer, and the drama she caused while in NijiEN even before Selen's termination, she still played up the "woe is me" angle about how bad NijiEN was while also being a problem. Not to mention that she still played up Ike's ex as a problem until the leaks came out.
>>107143913I hope her fanbase leaves that awful fucking cunt, actually.
>>107143831Names and evidence would be good Bari.
>>107143913Its the easiest job on Earth women really have no room to complain.Have them climb towers in -40 weather and see if they care if people still enjoy your content the wrong way
>>107143730>He's filipino let's not get carried away brohe's never lived in the philippines. He's half brit half flip who was born and raised in the uk
>>107144078Alright, so go live and show them how it's done if it's that easy.
>>107143674no if anything, she eats that shit up, she did a hidden yt stream (https://www.youtube.com/live/ha2WBoNj91I) at 2:27:16 she explains she doesnt mind fans being delulu with art and shit, for her it's more like purple yuri fans hating her friends.
>>107143394I said most, not all
>>107143903>watching over Michi's place while she fucks her boyfriend Mono and yuribaits with Numi
>>107143913I want to know what crime Michi's fanbase did to get this reaction. Everything I saw before with the shippers wasn't unusual from any space (fanart, collab begging) The worst that stood out was that parasocial nut Cowgoesmoo. That person is way more extreme than a whale.
>>107143692>makes the entirety of her humor shitting on other people>only spends time with whoever the biggest number in the room is up until they get cancelled. This seems to happen a LOT for some reason... >try to cancel random people using doctored evidence, only to cower and run away once actual receipts get postedoh and my favorite>is a hilarious Nijisanji bootlicker who tried to drop "evidence" that Nijisanji gave organs their play buttons by ordering a second Marie one and then hiding the names.
Michi was smart enough to leech of NijiEN at the height of their popularity, so much so people thought she was actually a member of EN, she turned that into a very succesful Vshojo debut.She's far smarter than she appears, she's planning something and this shit is step 1 in that.
>>107144288it’s not about what her fans did but what she did
Someone please explain to me Numis appeal, this is the secone time she gets mad at fans and clippers for showing the very image she cultivated, and all vtubers rush to defending her without second thought. Its like she has the woman pass (zero accountability) on steroids
>>107144078Brilliant take. You can't ever complain about something because someone out there's got it tougher than you. If you've ever complained about working in an office environment, then you're a cunt because at least you're not crawling through shit.
>>107144600Numi is rich and has a lot of influence, she will ruin your career of you talk bad about her
>>107144279I dont even need to menthion those twoReimu, Nina, Mysta, Kyo, Aster, Zaion, Kunai and Twisty are all retarded, thats a good chunk of themNot counting the retards still in the company like Enna, Millie and most of the maleswhy does riku hire people like this
>>107144668God forbid a woman do anything in this world.
>>107144288As individuals they were probably as bothersome as the average shipfag. Its when they're a collective that won't stop turning every interaction into an act of pseudo sex that it becomes a problem.
>>107144288Dunno about Michi specifically, but usually when shipping focused accounts drop it entirely, fans completely crossed a line. For example, Shoto called out both his and Vox's fans outright and said to stop shipping them because of the toxic fans. They were harassing him both when they felt he wasn't collabbing enough with Vox as well as if he collabbed too much. From what I remember, people were also sending threats if they collabbed with other people, as they saw it as "cheating," and would constantly bring up Vox regardless of what the context was. The fact that he doesn't consider Vox a friend anymore was an offhand comment by comparison to the complaints about the fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbi2pnzWn84https://x.com/shotohex/status/1970641712436650238In Holo's case, I'm pretty sure something similar happened with Axel and Zeta? The shippers got so crazy and creepy about it that the two just stopped interacting because of them.
>>107143112My money's on a fallout like Vedal x Anny's in the future.
>>107142600Hi Mono!
>>107144281Turns out a lot of flips are cucks.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kAOvTFA5rs>advertisement from the biggest food chain in PH with locations across the world
>>107145169and guess what? numi is also half-flip. if she was fully-white then she might had a chance against the white cock.
>>107143112ah, that makes more sense. That's why it's so fucking dangerous to tie your brand so closely to someone else. Shippers in general are some of the more dangerous kinds of fans. Kpop alone is evidence of that. >>107143473Fuck off, pyrocuck.
>>107145222Checked. The whole idea that michi makes a living out of leading on then cucking famous flips is a funny rrat.
>>107145483I'm just saying it's risky because it's so easy for things to blow up like this.
>>107145550Let it happen, then maybe my oshi won't take so many breaks.
>>107139932Michi didn't realize what were the implications of yurbaiting with the master yurbaiter that is Numi, that she'll actually kiss you and she practically has no problems with unhinged shipping.
>>107140565i don't watch hololive but doesn't that orange one takes other holo's to the maldives?
I didn't even realize she got that popular lol.
Vtuber lesbians are never real, they will always go back to cock.
>>107139932>If you have any questions, please feel free to open a ticketsomeone should ask if mono is michi's boyfriend kek
>>107141769>I think they tried at one point but were incompatible.Translation: a female led on a male when it was convenient for her and friendzoned him when he was no longer of use. Happened to one of my bros and it fucked his mental.
>>107139932>>107140179>>107140723>>107141522>>107141687KWABOOTY
>>107142600>You will NEVER be her boyfriend.but I already am :)
>>107142081Dude was a dumbass for revealing his face. He knew what his old fanbase was like, he KNEW that they’d drop him the second they saw that he was fat. Now he lost his numbers AND his girlfriend. Get sowing, bitch.
>>107143597>but is this not a cancelable offense in Reddit land?if you can frame it as homophobia, then yes
>>107142314Actual sidekick status. Grim.
>>107147056he did it to get rid of rebecca
Women are such liars, man. They will smile and listen to your austiic hyper fixation on your date. While texting her rosters of guys under the table. I just want someone to be upfront for once
What is the minimum amount of lying needed to become a successful vtuber(female)?>>107147056That's why he did it.
>>107147056Nijisisters already knew how he looked like. Did you forget about their favorite site that got taken down?
>>107142081That's what happens when you chase a woman.
>>107146428Kiara is a ticking time bomb, you wouldn't want to tap dat whether she's truly a lesbo or is actually with a guy.
>>107147056
>>107147323Didn't she have a meltdown after the LLD because she's been foreveralone for a long ass time? I feel like she's the type to end up as a wine aunt who's secretly devastated about being single.
>>107143112I genuinely don't see how this is gonna work out well for michi. She'll likely try to use some excuse to cry and claim she was bullied or something
>>107147056He fell off because he can't be consistent to save his life and there is no audience for a male in a girl group
>>107142803Lucky Scarling.
>>107147056A lot of people knew what he looked like but he wanted to cement it because he was tired of his fans. He purposely killed half his fanbase and now is desperately trying to win them back but nobody cares about him anymore
>>107147527He also purposely told all of his gachis to go fuck themselves because he didn't think he'd need their money. He's possibly one of the dumbest vtubers in the world.
>>107147111What the fuck is she doing now?
>>107147592>told all of his gachis to go fuck themselves for Mika's sake>NotMika ditches him for someone else after his gachis leave him
the absolute state of this industry and the women in itlove from Kazakhstan
>>107147733Truly a masterclass in fucking yourself over. Nobody does it better.
>>107139932Never trust "lesbian" vtubers
>>107141357They lied to get money. Played a fake relationship, collected the cash, and stopped.Result in the OP screenshot.I don't like Michi because i mo she's a leech. I'm not throwing this out lightly.She did the same thing with ProjektMelody; she kept appearing together with her and co-hosting her podcast, then after that she ranted how she is never going to do adult content, because that's not what she wants and not what "anybody wants to see her do".After seeing that response I tried my best to 'do not recommend' all her clips & stuff on Youtube.But I did not do the same for Numi because she is less contrived, and a good window into the Bao/Shylily clique. So that's how I know.Lo' and behold Michi flip flops again and backtracks the behavior she pushed forward for past 2 months. Hurting her followers yet again.Block all her shit, unfollow and unsubscribe. I did that long time ago. she is an indian an her indian pride culture conflicts with her job , hence she will always treat you like this.
>>107147592I haven't heard about him trying to get them back.It's almost like he didn't like them and didn't need their money.
>>107148263>indian
>>107148281He literally started yaoi baiting and talking about how he had all of these different boy's he could just call whenever.
>>107148263>she is an indian an her indian pride culture conflicts with her jobclose enough
>>107139932Numi is a sexpest
>>107148320How's that different from any other male content creator who can call up his boys? Nobody wants the fujos or sisters and there's a reason so many creators have distanced themselves.
>>107139932>happy turkey dayI hate trooncord so much
>>107148556>t. colonized people
>>107148515He started trying to do fujo shit with his "blue boy" and was playfully doing the whole >Omg gais wouldn't it be WILD if I called up a certain demon boy right now on stream hehe be real here. He was trying very hard to revive a dead ship and trying hard to create a new one
>>107143361Kokonuts chat is the funniest chat in all of streaming no contest
>>107143361zfg1I loved tackling kids with cancer.
>>107148774>>Omg gais wouldn't it be WILD if I called up a certain demon boy right now on stream hehe>be real here. He was trying very hard to revive a dead ship and trying hard to create a new oneare you referring to this?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bc-_KBDs94if so, you're making a mountain out of a mole hill
>>107148774Believe what you want, I guess. I'd say he's made his stance quite clear from all the times he ranted about the sisters that would baby or harass him 24/7.
>>107148670That's right cunt
>>107139932literally the only thing I know about Numi is this, I've never saw a single clip of her
>>107148981Yet he would do anything to have their money again because he's a broke ass bitch.
>>107148281>>I haven't heard about him trying to get them back.You haven’t heard anything about him, from anybody, because nobody cared about him or watched him or donated to him outside of BFE. How you translated>I don’t hear about him anymoreto>He magically became financially successful in some invisible way that no one, not even the numberfags or Nijisisters on this board can track because ??????????Is a level of libtard logic comprehensible only to the eldritch gods.
>>107149008hot
>>107148934I agree that it sounds like a nothingburger, but I do find it concerning that he's still willing to keep in touch with that one, considering everyone else he knows. I know he's always been a fence sitter but considering how he was with Xandu and Mint/Doki potentially, it's bizarre he's able to stay whimsical about all of it. I'm not for guilt by association or anything, but that guy in particular bugs me.
>>107149095>IMG_uh oh sister melty
>>107143608>never heard Michi numberfagging She doesn’t do it all that much now and tries to talk about how she doesn’t. But if you listened to her when she was fresh off the rainbow, she admits she collab’d with specific people with numbers in mind.
>>107149188>I do find it concerning that he's still willing to keep in touch with that oneas far as I know he's only kept in touch with ren and water bottle guy who has made amends with doki
I don't follow any of the vtubers in this thread but I recognize sixteeninmonovtubers really do be dating their mixers huh
>>107149464Of course they would, it's two people of the opposite gender working together to create a product - almost like a couple raising a child together.
>>107148263>She did the same thing with ProjektMelodyI don't hear Michi bring up Melody anymore despite all the clips as late as this year about Michi caring about her and how loyal Michi is to people. Matara at least defended Melody recently.>Lo' and behold Michi flip flops again and backtracks the behavior she pushed forward for past 2 months. Hurting her followersYeah I'm starting to notice the flip flopping and other behavior that is a little toxic. Michi calling herself a man multiple times a stream but is afraid of being in a room with one even with a male friend; Michi suddenly telling everyone she's straight despite all the stories about growing up gay, how she loves streaming so much but takes all these month long breaks this year. She has all these health problems but won't try to fix the ones that can be improved on (the sleep issue, eating). Seen a new light to her.
>>107147111>he did it to get rid of rebeccaAnd ho TF is this?
>>107147733Its not like Kuro is the sharpest tool in the shed, but I do still feel bad for him. He pretty much got taken for a ride from another girl trying to make it big in her developing country.
>>107142600>You are and viewer, and she is an Entertainer.has she done anything entertaining besides fake a relationship for views?
>>107144528Ok, what did she do?
>>107139932KEK I wonder if cowgoesmoo or another milker will use the rest of the inheritance to hire a hitman
>>107140179KWAB. Numi yuribaits with literally any creature on earth with a vagina. Actually, even ones without, she even flirts with Neuro and Evil
>>107145169I thought 4channers were supposed to be smart. Poor you, you actually need to look at entertainment and commercials to understand an entire country. Why bother with real data when you can just use TV shows, right? By that logic, I guess Family Guy is the perfect, 100% accurate representation of America.
>>107151643https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/6sw6o4/countries_where_infidelity_is_or_isnt_frowned/#lightbox
>>107151708It just occurred to me that I have no idea where the phillipines are. I also don't care to learn, but I found that interesting.
>>107151753dem der sum islands in dem SEA
>>107151753its the group of islands that arent japan
>>107151972The ones right above it? Wow, I didn't know they were so close to russia
>>107140179Doesn't numi suck Turkish streamer cock?
>>107152034Idk the bf she lives with is Asian.
>>107152011You're thinking of Vietmam bro
>>107149008i think she's the one that does the cooking streams
>>107152231Giri is the one who does cooking streams. I don't even know what Numi's content is outside of yuribaiting, talking with her girlypops, and doing sponsors.
>>107148263She's not Indian she's Chinese-Indo. I thought she might be half white like Zeta because her English is pretty good but no she's a yellow goblin that looks kinda like Artia
Hold on. Does mono has nudes of numi? Didn't he had access to michi's pc remotely?
english can not be this difficult vro
>>107152791Haha retard made a tpyo
>>107152806What a fucking moran
>>107151753somewhere in those little islands just above Australia
>>107152695If you think these two actually shared nudes I don't know what to tell you...
Honestly, if people are obnoxious and push it and are just fan of the actual ships and not the content creators I can see some streamers getting annoyed with it. I think it's better to ignore it but women will be women.
>>107152913As far as I understand it, these retarded women were pushing it hard themselves so they kinda had it coming.
>>107139932Is anyone actually surprised?
>>107146428"I don't watch hololive"sure shitposter-kun
>>107140725>4K average on Twitch
>>107152977I feel like pushing a certain type of content by creating it but not wanting to be only known for that one thing is fairly reasonable. Again, I don't think it's existence is what's bothering them but just the fans who refuse to engage them like real people instead of genshin impact characters. I feel like Kiara probably explained it best and managed to keep most of her fans even if a lot of the pure shippers moved to Kromei and later autofister shipping.
>>107153382Kiara is clearly lesbian
>>107141522Same reason faggots here and in twitter still posting faumei art
>>107153428You're allowed to believe whatever you want anon. I'm just saying she handled it better than completely shutting it down or alienating the fans of the ship but not her as a streamer. Basically do what you want, make your art but don't be weird and like claim she's doing ntr if she did a stream with another person or weird shit like take every interaction she has with other holos so fucking seriously
>>107139932>discord moderator>pains his heart to ban people and remove their commentsyeah right
>>107147733Reminder he was escaping tax evasion charges and Gunrun was personally helping him even back when he was still in niji indonesia happened to be one of this places with 0 tax for creators or something like that it was a pragmatic business decision in this retarded situation he got himself into, seems like dude was also done with Vtubing in general or at least tried to be a fleshie "femboy travel vloger" ??? Obviously didn't go too well because he doesn't look like a breedable femboy irl and more like some Mexican lorry driver.
>>107142129she did what Hana Macchia refused to do
>The Girl who made a career out of leeching Mysta/Kuro then getting mad when the ship was mentioned....is now mad that the ships she was pushing off leeching Numi and other girls are being mentioned...
>>107153642>Reminder he was escaping tax evasion chargesReminder that this is a rrat that has been shut down multiple times. There’s no point in reading the rest of your post when it’s clear you only get information from catalog bait.
>>107152871Damn... not even tits, what a waste of everybodies time
>>107142390I think it'd make me happy. Like being about to slut around without the health or moral repercussions.
>>107153428LOL,LMAO even. Go to her PL and RM accounts, enjoy the coal
>>107153758nta but you're genuinely fucked in the brain
>>107153750Reminder, he will never leave Michi for you. You just aren't pretty enough
I get it 4chan hates male VTubers. As a Mysta/Kuro fan which is rare in this 4chan, it annoys me when people say this narrative "Michi “abandoned” Kuro when he wasn’t popular anymore". Stop assuming things if you’re not even watching their content. Mysta and Mika’s relationship is just friendship, nothing more. Can’t a man and a woman just be friends?https://youtu.be/TivuKCYyIJE?t=545>>107141522>>107141687>>107141923>>107142081>>107147212>>107141687>>107142068>>107150184
>>107144516I know she even sucks to people that make this stream charts for Vtubers so they include her in top 10 lol used to be a giant Vshojo shill to the point she low-key shitted on all the other companies because they don't have TALENT FREEDUM to be themselves in totally non-parasocial ways! Now she's orbiting Ollie irl
>>107153958https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FTivuKCYyIJE%3Ft%3D545
>>107153958yes she hate kuro that she make a music video with him.
>>107152542does every SEA Vtuber have some Chinese blood? It feels like they're some higher-class of Asians there above the natives.
>>107153958keep coping
I've had this strong feeling of "I told you so"ness scrolling through this thread seeing people realizing she's a trash human being only now. Any perceptive Nijisanji viewer could have told you she was trash 4 or 5 years ago. Shes had haters that far back for being manipulative and blatantly using other vtubers for growth and disposing of them when they're no longer useful.
>>107153758how can I tell you watch Phase Connect?
>>107153958Doesn't your clip imply they maybe had sex with each other or at least tried dating to come to this conclusions about sexual compatibility?
>>107140179>Became popular for purple yuriShe was already popular before purple yuri.
anyone remember the whole Numi and Cottontail arc that went hard maybe last year? and now they don't even mention each other at all? what happened there
>>107154217Probably Mysta thought she would put out if he let her leech off him and then she friendzoned him when she saw he's a blimp.
>>107143112>>107141348>>107142296>>107143071>>107143112When you go do multiple “date” streams together and mention one another ever got her stream, call in other friends to give you dating advice, and then friends like Matara Kan do 2-4 hour long reaction videos to said dates, it’s no wonder the yuribait went so far.
>>107154132I mostly know about sisters hating her for "leeching" but that's not exactly unusual for this creatures. I've seen her ass licking Gunrun to the point it was uncomfortable even by Vshojo standards though (and they've tongued his dirty flip asshole on a regular basis)"The first issue that Michi had with Nijisanji HQ was how they handled her finances. Unlike VShojo, she accused Nijisanji of not being transparent and also not paying her what they claimed she earned."https://www.jaxon.gg/amichi-reveals-the-strange-reason-why-she-left-nijisanji-hq/aged like fine milk kek
>>107143112Apparently Numi has a bot that Michi can control to talk to Numi whenever they wake up or go to sleep. Even Kuro can’t fucking tell if they’re serious or not, and they’re shocked that people think they’re serious wtf
>>107153382Autofister makes me wonder if they'll eventually have to drop it or try to tone it down like Takamori or noel flare. The more I see ship scenes the more I understand why Dokibird and Mint go out of their way to avoid yuribaiting despite being so close.
>>107139932Yeah, that's pretty unfortunate. The longer you watch Michi the more you see this kind of inconsistency between words and actions, I'm afraid. At least purple yuri clips were fun every once in a while. But I guess a lot of subathon-related things also make sense now with that one fucker being in the vc 24/7. Some people actually defended him too. The irony.
>>107154259cotton pushed too far in trying to sexpest numi, numi then unfollowed her. that's it.
>>107139932>You will NOT ship me>You will NOT draw me with other vtubers>You will NOT be parasocial with me
>>107153958Nijisanji Mysta Luxiem Timeline (Simplified TL;DR)Luxiem Debuts They quickly gain massive popularity.Mika initially “leeches” off Mysta (collabs, interactions) — some fans interpret it negatively.Backlash from “sisters” (female fans) makes Mika step back when she realizes they’re attacking her.Mysta defends Mika, telling fans he’s just streaming for fun not here to act like a gachi / yume idol, like all likely flips do.This upsets unicorn fans who want strict boundaries.Because of that stance, Mika and Mysta get closer as friends, ignoring idol-style expectations.Mysta graduates from Nijisanji.Later, Mika follows him to VShojo, which fits their more relaxed, non-idol vibe.And the rest is history their content, fanbases, and careers shifted away from the idol-style culture that caused the conflict in the first place.
>>107153958>ship baits with mysta hard enough to where even his fans called her a leech >Mysta on his graduation admits she was leeching off of him and he was aware >Mysta numbers post graduation are in the shitter>she's suddenly yuri baiting with popular vtubers and making bank from it>Kuro and her only collab once every blue moon now Michi is and always was a leech. To answer your question of >Cant a guy and girl just be friends?Maybe, but only if they don't spend 2 years doing more "will they won't they" shit than your average drama series.
>>107154462That's actually on mints end. Doki would definitely yuri-bait harder but then again I think Doki has legitimate feelings for mint. But she's not mint's type.
>>107142390It depends on the person I think. In this case it doesn't sound like she's got anything against porn, but rather just shipping stuff of her with specific people. I know in the artist community there's a huge difference between your OC and your avatar. Dokibird used to regularly commission porn of the thief character because it was just an OC that she borrowed the face of from time to time. That disconnect made it much easier to just want to see her plowed by gigantic cocks or caked in a deluge of cum.Once she came back and it started being used to represent her specifically as a person, she started getting embarrassed and toned things down. That said, I'm pretty sure she schlicks to her new model now anyways.
>>107154462Call it a rrat if you want, but I do genuinely believe that Autofister has purposefully lessened their collab interactions as a result of the extreme yurishipping. It even got to the point where other talents like Kiara and Ollie were pointing out how close they are off-stream. It's clear how close they are and they likely talk a shitton outside of streaming hours, but I don't blame them for not wanting a public shipping frenzy everytime they do collab.
>>107154531That's always been a weird rrat. Doki/Selen never really yuribaited with anybody, but Pomu/Mint does it all the time with everyone BUT Doki. Hell, Doki was willing to just never contact Mint again after the termination if she hadn't reached out. Meanwhile, every single mint/kiara stream is just 2 hours of them talking about what they're gonna do to each others' asses.
>>107154648Yeah and the only person Doki was ever even open to flirting on stream with and talking and ships with was Pomu/Mint. She has kinda encouraged people to draw ship art of them before too. Like I said, I think Doki has legitimate feelings for her but knows she'll never reciprocate them and that's why Mint doesn't play into the yuri bait that Doki wants her to. Mint knows better and doesn't want to mess with her emotions.
>>107154702>Yeah and the only person Doki was ever even open to flirting on stream with and talking and ships with was Pomu/Mint.Yeah, I don't see it.Especially on the ship front. Doki talks about ships with a bunch of people now. Snuffy's the biggest example. Doki and Snuffy are always sharing fanfiction and stuff these days. Mint's mentioned Doki, Laimu, and Snuffy yapping away in the group chat on screen before because she forgot to turn on streamer mode and the ping noises were going off on stream. I think in NijiEN, the women there were just not the kind of people Selen could talk to, so she seemed even more antisocial due to lack of options. But now with girls like Snuffy, Laimu, Chibi, and Dooby, she's opened up a lot more with that kind of stuff publicly. She's always had issues with "girl groups," which isn't an issue now that she gets to know everyone as an individual without worrying about corpos or teams.
>>107153428This has to be doxbait right? You cannot be this retarded on 2025
Why are you surprised? She literally named her subathon a "scamathon"
>>107154817Now, yes. Originally, no. As Selen she avoided shipping of any kind except for with Pomu and even now as Doki she heavily encourages Mintoki art. Even with Laimu and Snuffy it doesn't really hold a candle to her openness about everything with Mint. She's backed off a touch but I still very much think that the reason mint avoids doing any ship content with her—aside from the "Fantôme Thief" revenge concert stuff—is because she's not going to toy with her friend's feelings like that. She's afraid Doki will take it seriously and get hurt from it.
>>107149727>almost like a couple raising a child together.Anny...
so will her numbers collapse now? It's what usually happens in situations like that and honestly they always felt too high for her level of "talent" and content she provides.
>and even now as Doki she heavily encourages Mintoki artI'm gonna need timestamps on this one.I honestly can't think of a single time and I've watched most of their streams.Hell, I don't think I've ever heard people call it "mintoki" either, especially after the concert.
So I don't follow nor care about these 2 but thanks to Youtube pushing Hoyoverse crap on my feed and learning about how fucking insane yurifags and shippers are (yes obviously I understand we're talking abiut completely different mediums here) I have to ask an important question: who is the target audience here? male? female? "shipper"niggers? "femcels"? unicorns? who really enjoys these to the degree they pushed themselves?
>>107155266>who is the target audience here? male? female? "shipper"niggers? "femcels"? unicorns?all of those
>>107155266There's a market for this shit. Plus, it inflates their numbers since you're either here for the talent or the bullshit they push. No matter who they are, they can paySee pic related>>107141250
>>107155177I call it Mintoki cuz I'm old fashioned but regardless it's not exactly timestamps. It's stuff like using the shipping tag that orca invented for them as a concert name, using ship art for collabs from people like orca. She knows what she's doing and has always enabled it when it specifically comes to mint. There's a reason why dragoons build stuff like this for her.
>>107154507>> telling fans he’s just streaming for fun not here to act like a gachi / yume idol, like all likely flips do.I really hate flip vtuber i know a lot of them don't want associate with idol culture why is not hard not to interact with opposite sex just act cute or be funny and be done with it why you guys need to ruined your channel just doing the opposite your fans want to do.I get frustrated with some Flip VTubers. I know many of them don’t want to follow an idol-style culture, but is it really that hard to avoid interactions that upset their fanbase? Just be cute, funny, or entertaining why do some of them do the exact opposite of what their audience wants and end up hurting their own channels?
>>107139932Fucking retard(the discord post not you). Like, wtf do they even mean saying they'll ban parasocials. You're in a fucking discord server dedicated to a vtuber celebrity, you're already parasocial, hell even just watching them and typing in their chat is "parasocial behavior"
>>107155177>>107155366NTA but a slight correction: Doki does not explicitly encourage shipping. Historically speaking, Dokilen never encouraged shipping of any sort between herself and other talents. And by "encouragement", I mean engaging in traditional yuri shipbaiting behavior more akin to what Hololive girls do or what Numi/Michi get up to. However, her moments of chemistry are most clearly observed when she's with Mintmu. While Doki has never engaged in the same type of ship yuribaiting every other vtuber does (the cringe stupid flirting), she also does nothing to condemn the shipping side of her fanbase. She doesn't say anything about not wanting to see it. She doesn't even comment on the swaths of porn they have together. Doki and Mint don't mention fantomethief by name outside of their concert because the organizers proposed that as the name and ran with it. They are kind of an anomaly within vtubing because every other yuribait ship tends to include some element of pretending to lust after the other person. Dokilen has never done that because she channels that for other stuff like yaoi for Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Transformers. Source: me, a shipfag who has been here since yellow and purple days
>>107143826Too bad NL himself is unfunny.
>>107143597You misunderstand women.They trick themselves into believing they are gay. Then, when a man comes along and turns them on, they realise they aren't and then drop it and pretend it never happened because they don't want to admit it was a phase.
>>107144664Unironically thanks for mentioning this.There's always some asshole who tries to pull the "somebody has it worse than you" card.I count my lucky stars every day that I'm working in an air-conditioned office.
>>107155044I never understood how the hell people with like zero content outside of yapping are getting such massive numbersLike take Crelly for an example, she's been at 40 viewers for years playing indie horror stuff, but now she's a low 4view consistently and she just talks for fucking hours and clipbaits while barely playing anything. Fucking normies infesting everything once again or what?...
>>107143673Imagine lol you're one of the most popular male vtubers in the world making $100k+ a month. Instead of pandering to that audience and giving them what they want you force some Indonesia girl on them and shipbait with her, letting her leech off you in the hopes you get some pussy. The hetshipbait with this girl slowly errodes your gachikoi audience and you get mad at the rest of your audience for only being interested in watching you fuck men. She still hasn't put out, maybe if I let her leech me a bit more. You quit the best job you've ever had for this girl and follow her to a new company where you'll never be as popular as you once were ever again. The new company doesn't even pay you and implodes. Still didn't get to fuck. Move all the way to the other side of the world to a shit hole country for this girl. Still don't get to fuck. You've lost all relevancy you once had, and the girl you let leech in the hopes of fucking is now more popular than you and has officially friendzoned you. And you never got to fuck. You ruined the best thing you've ever had going, a job that could have created generational wealth for you and your family, all for going chasing Indo pussy that never even put out. She ruined his life lol.
>>107155556I disagree. Back during her Selen days especially she was very heavily pushing the LunarFairy ship, especially during Minecraft collabs together. I was also there back then and it was pretty obvious that Selen was flirting with Pomu but Pomu usually pretended to ignore it or not see it. But anons on the other hand have noticed it for years>>42520182>>42519317>>26247579>>67032992>>44634174>>37052517>>30993457It's hard to explain and even harder to find timestamps or anything of the moments but Selen acted genuinely different around Pomu and kinda in an indirect way, pushed for more ship art of the two. While the girls don't mention the ship names, they'll both occasionally retweet ship art of FantômeThief too, which is something that Selen was opposed to doing with anyone but Pomu and has been opposed to doing with anyone but Mint since her redebut. There's a plausible deniability that Doki uses but it's pretty clear if you watch their interactions throughout the years that Doki would be putty in mint's hands if mint ever let her be. With that said though I feel like we've gotten off topic from the original thread.
>>107139932no shit she backtracking, people shutting down shipfags when it gets bad is basically a monthly occurrence in this hobby, shipfags cant control themselves and will flock to anything that panders to a ship like locusts to a field of crops. blaming or being upset that creators then backtrack the shipping content as soon as it becomes a problem is like complaining that someone put out a campfire because the fire was starting to escape the firepit and then saying that because they lit or fueled the fire they should let it burn freely until it burns them alive.however feel free to complain about how hard someone fueled the fire that they needed to put it out>>107155366>using the shipping tag that orca invented for them as a concert name>using ship art for collabs from people like orcaboth of these are more likely just general fan service rather then an open request for more.i mean shipping art is the majority of art made for 2 characters generally, so to not use it and only limit it to non-ship art that wont also be used by the other person is hard to achieve unless you only use the official art for thumbnails.and it doesnt even really mean they support the ship, it just means they have no problems with it, for now.plus doki/selenxmint/pomu has always felt like one of the lower key big ships, a decent amount of stuff is made for it but its traction is limited.
>>107155965very inconsistent>>You quit the best job you've ever had for this girl and follow her to a new company bro it's the opposite
>>107154847of course it is but she deserves it for acknowledging ph*se
>>107156141I'm not sure what you're trying to demonstrate with that. The date of their graduation means nothing. When they actually got to leave is far more dependent on their contracts with the company and any obligations they had to complete before leaving than anything else.
>>107139932>>107140449What caused the sudden change?
>>107156141Mysta was the first male hired by VShojo before Mika joined in not the other way around, bruh.
>>107155965You know I used to think it was just a woman thing. Throwing away such an easy job making so much money when all you need to do it shut up, and pander to a bunch of lonely nerds to get money thrown at you hand over fist. But the NijiEN males really proved that men can't do it either. How hard is it just to indulge lonely men or women with a parasocial relationship? It's not as if these vtubers could easily get another job that pays just as well this is the best it's ever going to get for the majority of them. But they never act like they're one bad day away from putting the fries in the bag.
>>107156208You’re making it sound like Mysta was desperately chasing for P*ssy, when that’s not true at all. Back in Nijisanji, he had plenty of opportunities to collab with or get close to female talents, but he chose not to. He rarely collaborated with female coworkers the only consistent exception was Mika. And that’s actually why some EN fans back then disliked Mika in the first place: because she was ID, and they felt he was spending more time with her instead of the EN members.That’s why Sister called her a “leech” not because of anything she did, but simply because she was from ID instead of EN.
>>107149464>>107149727Once she watched and loved the Nyanners/Aethel ship arc content, it should have been a clear hint of what she thought of her own basic white boy producer, but goslings are retarded.
>>107156227Marriage
>>107155557Name me a funnier streamer.
>>107139932> Settling for a desperate loser female> Rewind stream > Claim she's bi> Literally all her old crush are maleYurifags deserved it
>>107143597You posted the biggest grifter who can't take the heat
>>107156409That's not even true people disliked her for how she was in ID before she started collabing with any EN that would give her the time of day too.
>>107155965absolute blunder
>>107147056>Now he lost his numbersJob well done, fag. It was deliberate.
Is this board finally waking up on parasocial fans and business yuri? I always found it pretty embarrassing how much Hololive tries to pander to that.
>>107154462I'm not schizo but I see autofister as more of a platonic interaction and teasing and stuff. And most of the yuri stuff just came across as a joke or done tongue in cheek ironically. Compared to what kiara was doing, which was openly homobaiting.
>>107156577Leon Northern
I never cared that she was leeching of Mysta. My gripe was her zoomerisms. But with this the leeching is just so egregious, that it's just plain unlikable.
>>107154071A disproportionate amount of ID vtuber are Chinese Indo yes, like half of Holo ID is
>>107155965yes she dump him that's why she had music video with him.>>107154040
>>107143826Unfortunately what happened to NL's chat is that NL starting to treat it as a comedy club...the people listening to his stories are gone and now its filled only with people who treat the chat as "x factor for jokes". NL is addicted to tiktok/twitter material but he can't really admit to it because that would just mean that he would be closer to seeing himself like a Musk-lite which i think would literally be such a shocking realization about himself that he would suicide on the spot. TL;DR Guy is addicted to brainrot humor and then nurtures a chat to act like comedy club audience with the unspoken promise of maybe him choosing their jokes to be told by him.
>>107156863why not bothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrtCyWlI9I&t=255s
>>107149008>>107152231>>107152411Numi is one of the Girlie pops and was close with Bao and Sinder. Her thing is complaining about her love life and how ugly she is despite being hot and obsessing on her bod (working outs and starving herself) 24/7 off stream.She collabs a lot but writes an insane amount of songs and output spams and does irl concerts. Outside the Sinder doc, Numi had that clipper problem who kept lewd out of contexting her. Despite how they are complaining now purple yuri might have been the best for Numi whose algo was messed up by those international clippers. She had been trying desperately to grow her female fanbase too. Ironically Michi came around the time Numi fell off with Sinder; they BOTH forgot about Numi around the same time too (Michi forgot they were collabing and had a normal stream over Numi's).
>>107143597Nah they'll call the fans dumb simps that should have known better. Which isn't wrong
>>107139932I know for a fact I've seen clips of Michi talking about being gayAnd I know she actively encourages shipping with OllieWeird
>using discord, everkek
>>107140007>>107153401
>>107157409Isn't that every streamers chat? Even vtuber chats are full of people trying to be funny and make the streamer laugh.
>>107158144What else even is there to do in a vtuber chat?>backseat the game and make the vtuber have a woman moment and ruin the vibe for everybody involved>spam hearts and supas asking vtuber to date you>tell jokes to try to get vtuber to read your comment and laugh
>>107143781Is she still on the run for dodging taxes in the UK?