https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNWya52F4q0
>>107249117ah yes the >0.6% is winning
>>107249126my cat decided to come and sit on my lap moments before i was about to get up and go to bed. she knew...
>Guys I love the company everyone is my familyK E K
>>107248461HOLOKEKS ARE YOU OKAY?
>Another woman complaining about workloadKEEEEEEEK
>>107249172wtf is Lenna doing here?
There is nothing wrong with Cover.Hololive is a good company.
>>107249124>>107249109so the description is just a blatant lie?
>>107248897Rich enough to prioritizing chilling over money
For me it washttps://youtu.be/CF4HoXLuoMc
>>107248865What I find more intriguing is that Cover allowed her to even state this as openly and honestly as it gets. It's refreshing, in a way.
wait holy shit its actually because of overwork
>>107249202LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
>entertainer gets health condition>has to quit>"AAAAAAAAAAAHHRJGUDHDSLJFKRFK DRAMA EVIL CONSPIRACY CORPO FELLOW TALENT BACKSTAB BETRAY SECRET HUSBAND PREGNANT GOD HAS FORSAKEN US AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"Is this board okay in the head?
>>107249148
>Haachama wants to quit>She can't because she still have to clear her remaining workload and KPI.>Kanatan saw this and decide yep its time to quit before they work me to death
This stream is getting privated Cover ninjas already going to her house
>>107249219Wouldn't be surprised if they all could but just never actually asked if they could
SEX WITH INVESTORS
>>107249086I believe you should graduate from live phasefag
Yagoo has lost all control, “upper management” is driving the ship now in service of shareholders
>>107248897Shortage of resources(talent management and studio usage), as she said a while ago. Thats why Covid had been increasing a lot of talent management and were building self serf 3D booth and more.
>how to make a cow give more milk and eat less?>milk it more and give it less foodIs this still the logic by which Japanese corpos in the 21st century?
>>107249242Look at the time, a certain group of people are awake right now.
>>107249202There is no mismanagement in Hololive
>>107248583Nah. I've been very critical of Holo but this image doesn't apply here. She's been open about her health issues from the beginning, this was inevitable.
>>107249232>have medical condition>can you work overtime Kanata?>OK!Hololive sure is great.. kek
I love waking up to good news.
She announced it while most of her simps were still at work. some of them are probably on their way home, checking their phones, and heading straight into the forest instead once they read the announcement
>>107249259That's going to be in a bear market, be careful
>>107249261Go and suck the shareholders balls faggotMy oshi is Fubuki but I dropped her after I realized shes lying
I don't into nihongo so I only caught the occasional clip of Kanata but there are some legendary oneshttps://youtu.be/J8LE9pw5yOw
At least Yagoo still have HoloEarth, HoloEarth will save cover
>literally says it's not because of management>IT'S MANAGEMENT SHE'S LYING
>>107249302>thefalseflagking.jpg
>>107249186Even if only 1 talent remains Hololive would still have 3x times the reach of all the phasefailures together.
So isn't it clearly that insane levels of ramping responsibility and stress on her probably are contributing to her actual disease? Neets on this basket weaving forum have never had a job so they don't know that this shit can tangibly fuck you up.
Basically she wants to stream and do her own stuff but Cover keeps pushing shit her way
Nijisanji won again
As the old popular talents leave, Cover is in serious trouble. Their new gens are nowhere near the same tier.
Oh my GOD SHE'S BEING JAPANESE AND REFUSED TO TAKE LESS WORK WHEN OFFERED.
>>107249331You can ignore my post, do not reply with shitpost if you ain't got no thing to say, faggot.
>>107249310Managment =/= workload
>>107249310>literally says it's not because of management>proceeds to clarify that all of her issues are because of mismanagement
>>107249272Yes
no one is safe. if you have an oshi, she is going to leave you one day.
>>107249302I didn't know there is a Fubuki in cuckconnect
>>107249117>>107249315but I liked Kanata too :/
lads, how does Ayame do it?
The management is good, Cover is the best company, ignore all the anti in this thread and let's wish Kanataso a happy graduation ahead.
>>107248461>no sticky/vt/ is dead
Shit company, your oshi in this company will graduate in less than 2 years from now
Is this the thread where we pretend to watch JPs?
>>107249373>workload is now mismanagement
>>107249219Reincarnating was normalized and is expected.
>>107249310What she is saying is contradictory AFShe said part of the reasons were due to heavy workload. How was that not management's fault? Or she said that the management wanted to adjust her schedule (to lighten the load), but she had projects she wanted to do so she discussed with them to keep working. Why complain about the workload, then?
>>107249216Nothing has ever topped this cover https://youtu.be/WAKJyqYk7Yc
>>107249353More like she was pressured into accepting that work.
>>107249352>Kanata>Popular Look, I like her but...
>>107249342yeah, stress is actually such a major contributor to so many different health conditions. i wouldnt be surprised if this was the case
>>107249310>been asked repeatedly to perform tasks that she assumed was outside of her scope>super condensed recording and studio schedule harms the progress of her own projects she wanted to work on, her streaming activities AND her healthWho's responsible for this if not management? Was there some malicious third party involved?
>>107249352Older talents leaving will force the fans of the dead talents to move to the newer girls. Pro move MR Yagoo
>>107249405Literally yes, you manage workload for your talent if you're not incompetent
>>107249425>I am reading the script approved by the company for this streamKEK
>>107249405yes, believe it or not assigning work improperly is mismanagement its crazy i know
Cover's management is always great
it's so over...
>>107249388You have my feels brother. I watched Aqua when I could. Losing Kanata feels like that same huge loss.
>>107249405You will cope until the end of time.
>>107249413She said it was because she kept taking the extra work and streamed while already busy and it pushed her too much and with her declining health condition it made it worse
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh
Merry Christmas!
>>107248461who the fuck needs hearing when you just sit in front of pc anyway
>>107249016Going back to being a wagie because your hearing gets more fucked upImagine a worse fate
How can you go to an ordinary job after all this
>>107249433ITS HER FAULT!there I said it
wow this is the first graduation where one of the talents is not speaking vaguely. kinda crazy to hear all this
>>107249373Management wanted to reduce her workload but she didn't want to, though
>>107249506her dream is making music
>>107249428nta but even though she's not popular, she's like that one background character in your favorite show you know, a supporting cast.
But there are members, multiple members, who get by doing fuck all. Who barely even stream. Why give up the golden ticket? Just stream once or twice a week & milk that membership money forever. There's no quotas for anything
WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE GOING TO DO FOR A LIVING, SHE’S NOT ONE OF THE A-LISTERS, SHE HASNT MADE ENOUGH MONEY KANATAAAAAAAAAAAAAA DONT DO IT
>>107249383Yeah, when she dies.
>>107249512She doesn't have to worry about her position in the industry going forward
>>107248461wow the first holo graduation with valid reasons
>>107249515Sounds like schizo unicorns got to her
Total unicucks death
I just didn't expect a finality. I don't understand. She was literally in her prime. Her live was AMAZING.
welp I will leave this threadyou guys can circlejerk all you want and pretend that Cover is a one big happy family and management is the best shareholder is god okay byeFuck Cover Black Company
>>107249391Less work, less burnout. Also more time for boyfriend that way.
>>107249481good management would have prioritized what she wanted to do. This is another case of why all the others left becuase management has their own agenda and when they want to do what they want and makes them successful it becomes too much for them. Like where is the focus? The support?
>>107249509Hopefully by investing the money you made as a streamer.Then you get a chill part time job to feel busy, but mostly get to 'retire" early.
She’s going to go work with Beatani on the former-vtuber farm picking strawberries and making jam
>>107249405Yeah you jobless SEAcreature
>>107249515>I plan to find an ordinary job outside the entertainment industry>In this economyThis sick 30+ years old woman who has minimal experience in working a normal job is going to get hit hard by reality...
>>107249507>>107249509Why do people think "ordinary job" means burger flipper? Do you have no imagination or are you just projecting your own lack of self-respect?
>>107249536Why do you think she's going keep living?
>>107249553give her your ears YOU DONT NEED THEM
>Know your talent have health issues & needs to recover>Still overload her with work
>>107249515aint no way she wants that
Is this the first Holo member to directly reference "reincarnation" and "alt accounts"?
>>107249535Terrible ragebait
>>107249554Maybe you should have just watched the stream instead of making up your own headcanon
>>107249302
>>107249535>She wants to give it her all>It overloads her>Management discuss with her on reducing her workload>She insist on doing it>Heath issues popup>She doesn't want to give up>But if she has no choice, then she would rather give up completely than be lazyWorkaholic?
Kson will help her, don't worry.
>>107249433It's the homostars fault
>>107249554okay phasenig
dont cry man
>>107249563Management want to make her work less, though. She was the one who wanted to keep working and prioritized what she wanted to do instead of what she should've done (health-wise)
What a nice stream, holoniggers
Pon Kanata, Bless You!
>>107249242Like 90% of the people who still use this board are just mentally-stunted manchildren who are here to gossip about the latest drama and will insert their conjecture and presumption into said drama because it's the only way for their fried dopamine receptors to feel anything
She was keeping it together so well :(
How old is she? I wish I in Japan so I could save her
>>107249548She's a schizo unicorn herself
>Stream is scripted>SHE IS WORKHOLIC SHE KEEPS WORKING AND GOT SICK GOYSokay (health-wises)
Idol dream in hololive they said lmaooooooooooooo
>>107249563She said on stream JUST NOW that management was aiming to reduce her workload but she WANTED to do the extra stuff and it pushed her too far
>>107249092People in these threads don't watch streams. They don't know what a Meniere even is.
some people here want pekora or miko to stream for another 40 years
Let's have a discussion before we hit shitposter singularity:Basically, she worked/overworked herself/was pressured into working because of Japanese culture to the point that her health is making her unable to continue working?
>>107249622It still doesn't make any sense. She just said she has to do what management requests on top of her own work load. Why doesn't management back off and just let Kanata do what she wants? It's the same problem how others were being pushed into certain parts of Hololive like Aqua with being a star idol.
The more I listen to this the more it feels like she just achieved all her goals as a VTuber and she's now closing the curtains.
.... wait, kanata, this graduation announcement is a bit concerning
>>107249242>Is this board okay in the head?Never has been, definitely even more the case for nu /vt/
>>107249578nta but I would if I could. I'm fucked anyway.
>>107249622Bullshit. She said she's mentioned this issue to management multiple times over the years and they did fuck all.
>Kanata is currently a top-3 earner in HoloCover fucking lost
>>107249665yeah I do it mean mental ill in japan ese. like a meniera girl.
remembering some NijiJP people mention a few time their friends in holo is way busier. Dance, singing, performance alone is already a full time job; only real workaholic with good health can handle doing idol activity and somehow streaming semi full time
>I plan to find an ordinary jobis this women retarded?
>>107249242It's what happens when you let phasenigs feel comfortable in a board
>>107248461I no longer can deny the fact that cover is a black company
>>107249252>>107249252>>107249252
>>107249675Probably because at this point her ear is already so fucked she wants to move to a different occupation while she still can
>>107249684she said there was a lot more she wanted to do though...
>>107249661aiming is the word. Management is late as fucking always when she has been someone with a crazy medical condition. They have been so late they have lost how many talents this year? They really did put moves on having the company first over the talent this year. Well they got their profit out of Kanata! MET THOSE NUMBERS! WOOOO
This almost sounds more like she's dying.
>immediately come back with new vtuber modelKek
>regular jobUnleash the Wal-Mart edits
>>107249433>super condensed recording and studio scheduleIsn't that just what happens if you have that many talents? What is management supposed to do about it, build another $Xm studio for her? I guess in her own mind she sees herself as big as Suisei, but that's not reality. It's the same thing with Kiara not realizing that sololives do NOT only hinge on cover, the venues also want a guarantee you can actually sell the tickets.
>>107249684It's the opposite
>holofags lost one of the most hardcore unicorn vtuber
>>107249673She was always a ticking time bomb due to her ear disease. You could argue whether or not overwork sped up the health issues but she was going to have to retire at some point, she is already deaf in one ear.
>>107249428there's 120k watching fyi
>>107249675She had a lot of works because they "backed off and let her do what she wanted"Unironically, should've forced her to take breaks instead of stopping at suggestions
Holokeks are not having a good time lately. All that gloating finally caught up to them.
>>107249742Why are phasenigs like this?
Yagoo and Cover Management did nothing wrong, everything is Kanata's fault and if you deny this, you are Nijisters
>>107249760Retard-kun…
What chance haachama will graduated anytime soon now?
This thread is full of retarded faggots who aren't even watching the stream
Baqua quitsShion quitsChloe quitsA-chan quits
>>107249760This is the single time I want this to happen
>>107249622>>107249702It started a while back but management slowly learned the seriousness of it. Thats why hololive since a year or so ago were staffing more and doing more changes
>>107249673That is it but there was always a ticking timer going down with her, anon. We were lucky we had six years with her as her condition literally got worse each year.
>>107249762FamiMart
>>107249779it's a holo graduation announcement
>>107249709>top 3 earnerWhy are you making up shit?
>>107249749well yeah that is the inevitability of this situation and no amount of hindsight fixes a fuck up that should have been trackable throughout her career.
>>107249739Once burned by the soulless entertainment industry she wishes not to suffer it again. That said, I wouldn't 100% trust such claims. She just as well might reincarnate.
>>107249739She's not the type to sit around masturbating all day.
>>107249802>retarded faggots who aren't even watching the stream/vt/ in a nutshell
>>107249756I mean for a musician losing your hearing is probably the closest thing to death
Does Cover even bother selling her Sololive Blu-ray now?
Im going to miss her
>>107249762Lawson desu
Amane Kanata is working herself to deaf, she even admitted this on stream, Cover is a good company. Do not spread rumours or we will send you to mental institution.
>>107249728Being busier than someone with no responsibilities doesn't mean the person is actually busy. You're retarded if you think they do idolshit full time.
>>107249756She's losing her hearing
Next announcement in 3 days btw
>>107249702See picrel in >>107249784
>>107249760I'd rather her be lying about her health than actually have this illness.
>>107249684
>>107249830stream is done. have 2 monitors faggot
I think people also don't understand she has to announce this now before Holofes starts ramping shit again for the year
>Graduating on Christmas and New YearImagine the damages done to all scheduled events
you faggots are profoundly mentally ill
flowglow 3d stream in 20 minutes is gonna be pretty awkward...
>>107249756>Incurable ear disease that will become worse and worse until she is deafEh, not dying per se but sounds horrible enough for a woman in her 30s
>>107249830it just finished dimwit
>>107249242it's actually crazy how brown shitskins are just so desperate for Hololive to have some exposé against itfans of every other corpo and ligger niggers are the most miserable shit colored subhumans imaginableI bet a Holomem could get terminal cancer and retire for the last remaining months of her life and, outside of cheering since we all know these subhumans would do so, would say "SHE ACTUALLY RETIRED BECAUSE BLACK COMPANY!!!1111!!!!">>107249741this but without even a shred of ironyliggertrannies tooTBD TND TTD
I can't believe this is the same woman who cared about her unicorns so much that she hid in a corner that one time
That was an interesting announcement. I'm looking forward to the next one
>>107249879She submitted her resignation letter when Haachama went apeshit, the management is the only one who knows she is going to graduate. This is the first time she announce her graduation in public.
>>107249884what gave it away we only watch grown women larp as anime girls
>>107249764>What is management supposed to do about it, build another $Xm studioYes, actually. They keep debuting new generations. They should expand their staff and infrastructure accordingly.>for her?They've lost many of their top talents in the past few years. So not just for her.Unless Cover just plans to rotate the older talents out after they milk them dry.
>sad Christmas for holofags
I don't watch her but I'm sadder about it then I am about any other graduation. This feels like an actual tipping point. Even if the next generation of Holos is great, I think we reached the halfway point after which in a few years there will be no recognition of the older world. The world I grew up in already no longer exists, and now the second sixth of my life is starting to no longer exist.This also really reminds me hard that we will die someday, more than other graduations. Fuck.
What a shitty fucking night.
>ITT: SEAshits don't understand that Kanata's been losing her hearing for a majority of her career with an incurable chronic diseaseI don't even watch Hololive and even I know that.
>>107248461NOOOOOOOOOO
>I'm looking for a job outside of entertainment industry>You might see me in the wild. I might even be working right beside youAIIIIEEE GO TO JAPAN NOW AND FIND HER IN SOME CONBINI OR SHIT
>>107249870noooo fuck ears
>Cover hired whiteknight to defend them in 4chanWelp anything for peanuts I guesss
>>107249946>more whores whose debuts all flopped bigly>more BBC + cuck loving whores, at thatwell since you are cuckolds I guess that is a "win"
>>107249798>>107249804>>107249868Her illness shouldn't stop her from being a regular vtuber. Literally just talking with chat and playing video game in her free time. Even a guy without hands can do it
>>107249926>when Haachama went apeshitwhich one? I think I missed this
>>107249575She only worked in a warehouse before, you think she will suddenly get hired as a corporate manager because she played games on stream for 6 years?
>>107249910Anon, she mentioned management giving her jobs she didn't sign for, having difficulties working with certain people and not telling any member to avoid leaks, if you didn't expect this shit to happen you're naive
>>1072498211. Peko2. Marine 3. Kanata
>>107249756Anon. She doesn't only lose her hearing when her condition gets worse. She has to accept fainting spells and vertigo. If it was just deafness, then maybe she could have a reasonable life but no, the universe decided to be uniquely cruel to her.
>>107249784This translates to: after seeing the medical papers the management got scared of legal action, so they suggested she cuts her own projects, so she could work only on the mandatory corpo projects.
korone is next
>>107248461Good riddance
first holomem graduation i actually care about. fuck...
>>107248461Biboo will carry on her legacy
wish I could give her a hug
The biggest rrat generator out of that whole thing had to be the part about her not getting along with some coworkers even in a professional capacity making coordination with them difficult.
>>107249992Oh yea I saw a blind vtuber streaming the other day and she's a 2 view I forgot her channel name.
>>107249946Every corpo is going to go down the same hole
>>107250007aiee she's going to be dizzy occasionally while counting her holobucks. why is life so cruel
>>107249992>Her illness shouldn't stop her from being a regular vtuber.>her disease, the one that is literally making her go deaf in one ear, shouldn't actively affect her job as a streamer
>>107249946The way cockroaches survive nuclear winter
>>107249581How come some get "overloaded" while others can just fuck off for weeks a time like Ayame and some can do their side work like Ina?
>>107249794>Someone must be at fault>Peole can't quit from a company to make their own business.Wow
>>107249836Didn't stop Beethoven tho. He literally made his magnum opus when he was maximum deaf.
>>107250002>more dramanigger babblingpraying a landslide takes you and your village off the map tbdesu
>>107249993
>>107250007>She has to accept fainting spells and vertigo. If it was just deafness, then maybe she could have a reasonable life but no, the universe decided to be uniquely cruel to her.Fucking hell What kind of normal job can take her in this condition
>>107249884its good content
>I am dying guys I have to quit vtubing>graduates>Debut as indie>Hey guys I am marrying my boyfriend>If you don't like me you are not a real fan>Hey guys I am pregnantHuh What happened to your sickness?
>>107250048Do you understand what the fuck vertigo is or are you just being intentionally stupid
>>107250015Korone isn't going anywhere. She's part of the clique.
>>107250081She literally subtitled her stream for the EOPs, this damage control doesn't work now
Oh shit for the past year I've had increasing vertigo, tinitus, inner ear pressure, and sessions of muffled hearing. Is that the same disease?
The fact all the numberniggers are getting riled up says everything about this place. The better parts of Holo really are at the tower.
is holo witches cursed? if we lose the princess i'm probably done with hololive
>holofags coping hard before the stream after stream, long time after the graduation Always
>>107250088breeding sow
>>107250064built/mentally different, that's it.some girls can take stress and obstacles better, others not, though that would say alot about EN girls with their graduation rate
>>107249929>Yes, actually. They keep debuting new generations. They should expand their staff and infrastructure accordingly.no can do, why do you think we get ALL the goddamn sololives all of a sudden as well as merch, merch, merch, not only for the 60+ jubilees but also for made up holidays, new models etc. etc. The gravy train is slowly losing speed. Even if you're extremist levels of holopig, your mancave should be about full of plastic by now.
>>107250102She says she won't be reincarnating
reminderremember these threads for when phasebrowns try to act buddy buddy with Holofans again some time next year when they inevitably have some fucky wuckythey did it when vshojo died since it made them nervous as fucknever ever forget this behavior
>>107250111That stream is scripted, she is forced to read everything out to quit the company.
>>107250113GGs
>>107248583>last stream two weeks ago
>The onset of Ménière's disease is usually around 40 to 60 years old. Females are more commonly affected than males. After 5–15 years of symptoms, episodes that include dizziness or a sensation of spinning sometimes stop and the person is left with loss of balance, poor hearing in the affected ear, and ringing or other sounds in the affected ear or ears.She should be better in fifteen years
>>107250005Outside of Pekora and Mariine, there is no way Kanata is making anywhere near Suisei or Mori, not to mention other top members like Miko or FBK
>>107249999>corporate managerHoly fuck you really lack imagination. This is your best conception of a job beyond burger flipper and warehouse wagie? Do you know how much vtubers have to do to make their streaming look effortless? They're overqualified for a dozen other jobs in entertainment and media, and having been one on the resume makes it known how reliable you are. The trick for her is to find a job that works with her hearing problems, not finding one that isn't interesting.
>>107249910>desperate for Hololive to have some exposé against itYou don't lose almost all of your top talents in one year without there being serious issues. Also I put a put on their stock.
>>107250111>muh dramanigger babbling isn't because uhhhhh mup da doo sheiiitadd another typhoon onto the landslide
Lmao she told no one. What the fuck. Why?
>his oshi has to get a job when she retires instead of living in luxury lmao
>>107250159retardchama... read your own quote again please
>>107250179Kanata isn't a top talent, she's like C tier in HoloJP. People will have forgotten this happened in two weeks.
>>107250179>Also I put a put on their stock.next time without the shitskin babble phasebro
>>107249383my oshi and her friendgroup is most likely CAUSING all this I'm afraid
>>107249989oof struck a nerve I see
>>107250193>Crashing this agency, WITH NO SURVIVORS
>>107250197Thanks Takaichi
>>107249612Nice, I can't wait for their off collab onsen streams!
>>107250159Are you retarded? It literally says they're left worse off.
>Kanata is dyingI got a dejavu reading this its like every Holo is dying and has to graduate.
>>107250193Wtf
>>107250193Is there anyone she's even semi close to left?
>>107250193don't understand taso's character award
>>107250179Leaving asides the "almost all of your top" because it's obviously untrue, you do when the job is hard by nature and they are rich enough to retire early
>>107250219considering you dodged it that would be you
>>107250193She suspected that there's an information leaker from within the company
>>107250244Marine maybe
Matsuri has the right mindset. Stream whatever you want, fuck CCV. Pump out a cover every 4 months so it looks like you're doing something. And just watch the checks come in.
>>107250244Azki?
>>107249709She isn't even top 3 in her own gen.
>>107250193There have been several graduation leaks before those were announced before so she likely didn't want that to happen to hers
>>107250244
>>107250104Merry Xmas anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqxFq9zNclM
>>107249860I once had an episode of vertigo that lasted almost the entire day. That felt terrible. I felt dizzy for an entire week afterwards. I don't think it was meniere though.
Holobros is everything ok
I hope she starts a lesbian flesh channel with kekson
>>107250265She's likely right. I remember someone here saying Kanata is the next one. I think he said Ina is the next EN going.
>>107250146please going to numbers to spam Holo images and then shit posting every other general has been your pass time for years. The worst of you never go easy on Phase or others. What is sad is that today is about Kanata but the worst of you Holofags are looking for a fight instead of ignoring shit posters. Fucking morons.
>>107250244Luna?
>>107250265it's a Phase parasite that the fish inserted into the company
Her actually telling no one makes all the doomposting funnier because we are seeing live how wrong the doomposting is.
>>107250310the yellow one is not hololive
>>107249546never heard of a deaf music producer OR management, the easy shit is out of the question sadly.Someone said investment, I really hope so. Dunno what Kanata does with her money, I know the other holos buy houses and cars or do their goddamn boating license (Subaru actually, not Marine lmao)
>>107250309stop making me even sadder....
At least she still has the networking right....
>>107250193Paranoia.
>>107249824Anon, her ears are fucked. She's not coming back
>>107249779Retard.
member when cover forced a deaf woman to move out of her apartment because her roommate joined a company with a former employee in it
>>107250315Hope it keeps going down to the point they went back to private
>>107250310At least when Gura came back her new design was good. These are all downgrades.
>>107250321>I think he said Ina is the next EN goingIna might actually be making more with her other job now.
>>107249622Dyrbi, they can't do work that's not given to them lmao
>>107250315>several times more graduations than Hololive>still not paying their talents>still stealing their talents' fan mail>still stealing their talent's youtube plaques>nearly all their streams are botted and their CCV graphs look like ZabimaruOOF...
>>107248461Katana bros...
>>107250378She starts doing that "other job" as Ninomae Inanis
>>107250315what happened in Feb and April?
>>107250378But /vt/ said Hololive was her retirement plan.
>>107250377Saba.. upgrade.. when did sea creatures have fluffy ears?
Fuck you all, Hololive is best company in the world
>>107250193Friendship as a concept doesn't exist in Hololive.
>>107249584iirc Coco did something roughly related, blurting out her setting as "will be back in 500 years"seeing how her solo career is going with all the VShitshow Fallout, she might actually come crawling back to Yagoo, it would be quite funny
The signs were there. Never ignore the signshttps://youtu.be/ZG86sybvdnU
every chuuba that graduates from a corpo pretends they aren't coming back, are you guys stupid
>>107250384Do you think Cover organizes their streams, schedules, writes their songs,etc? The girls do most of the work.
Cover is supposed to help and support talents so they'll have less work and so they can concentrate on streaming and idol activities. Why the hell are useless managers giving her all the extra work causing her to quit?
>>107250377>These are all downgrades.I beg to differ.
>>107250146lolI like Kanata but you catalog & /#/ fags are actually mindbroken by phase
I bet you Kson is behind this. Like not whispering in her (good) ear about how great it is to be indie but certainly encouraging her to cut herself off from all the girls who can still dance and sing since she can't do it anymore.
>>107249929You don't understand the costs involved with a full mocap 3d studio, you do not only need the space and equipment, you then also need fulltime staff that knows what they are doing.
https://x.com/amanekanatach/status/1995775327227052110
>>107250474Kson caused her to go deaf? That's pretty fucked up
*works 16 hours a day 7 days a week*some people are just built different
>>107250193It's been pretty normal that they don't tell anybody beforehand to try and prevent the others from trying to talk them back. Once the decision is made there is a lot of paperwork needed to do and suddenly having them change their mind is a nightmare.
https://x.com/MO_OKAYU_GU/status/1995748287853592886?s=20
>>107249910Yeah, the indians are the ones who made japanese news networks shit on cover for putting a child murderer in holo earth and making the shittiest excuse they could to cover their ass. Indians are the ones who made haato shit talk cover during her last stream. Jesus you corpo cultists are completely retarded.
nigga wtf im in the middle of writing my thesis and this shit happens?? MY FUCKIGN DEADLINE IS TOMORROW IM GONNA FUCKING LOSE IT ANONS WAUTH TEYHFC FUCKK
It would be so funny if she came back become flesh tuber or someshit and 5 month preggo after all dat shit she said.
It's fucking over, it's so fucking over, I can't believe my wife Kanata, the sweetest girl in the world would just disappear like this, I truly hate it.God, maybe it's time to drop vtubing as a hobby in general, my heart just cannot take this anymore.
>>107249989Who are you referring to? Give examples
>>107249946Yeah, won the cuck Olympics
>>107250146yes, very real and organic posting from yourself and "them"
>>107250458They definitely don't make their own songs, you retard. Most of them have zero musical ability.
>>107250507you indian?
>>107250313Probably just Eustachian tube issues. But go to the doctor if that happens again, you could unironically lose your hearing too.
>>107250480Honestly surprised Cover lawyers even let this through.
Please move back to Kson house
>>107250488Yeah, imagine getting fusrodah-ed on one of your ears
Name a gen more cursed than gen 4
>>107250538the older gens prolly, the others are just fantasies made by the cuck fans. It's hard being a normal phase fan
>>107250324>WHY ARE YOU HITTING BACK YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THATphasebrowns, everyonealso Hololive fans do not shit up other generals, let's not engage in such easily disproven revisionism since every major anti discord antis Hololive while pushing phase, vshojo, niji and liggersour venom is purely reactionary to you niggers, your venom is coordinated and spread to people who left you all alone>>107250467>>107250544just saying but I can't wait when it eventually happens to you fags, gonna be a God tier grudgepost
>>107250167Ok let's say she has done everything as she said. Then we also have to respect her word that she won't stay in the entertainment industry so that's 80% down. Then the NDA stops her from saying she is Kanata so she is a 32 years old with 3 years warehouse worker and 6 year of weird middle management at a entertainment company. With underlying health condition asking for upper level job transfer/pay grade? In this economy I don't think so
>>107250336>Her actually telling no oneYou honestly didn't her to tell you that she was likely going to graduate, when she's been literally posting about how her condition was getting worse for month now
>>107248461In the end, she couldn't be saved, fate is cruel
>>107250555>Honestly surprised Cover lawyers even let this through.Did you watch the stream? She said its due to her being stubborn that she wants to increase her tasks and it's not management fault.
uhh guys, all she said was that she's not reincarnating as a vtuber. she could still come back as a fleshtuber along with kson right??
>>107250340>never heard of a deaf music producerBeethoven
>>107250565>I Can't, but Gen 5 is close
>>107250493>>107250315Reminder that stock value is SPECULATIVE and does not reflect the company's real profits.
>>107250572>also Hololive fans do not shit up other generalslmfaooooo
>>107250565Wdym? They're getting better and better.
>>107250002>Anon, she mentioned management giving her jobs she didn't sign for,This happens when a company grows though. The Hololive she joined 6 years ago would have never been able to get her concerts, albums and TV appearances. I don't see her complain about that part.
>>107250581yea and Rushia was suicide baiting everyday yet she still live
>>107250555To be honest for me this is a negative for management just because they are too honest.But for the viewers, regardless of the reaction Cover might face, it is a positive.But also Kanata said she was stubborn and wanted more tasks. So... who to blame really.
>>107250606The P/E is right there
>>107250550The girls hire and work alongside people they choose. You burger flipping retards think these girls show up for work, clock on, do what the manager tells them and go home like you losers.
>>107250592she said she want ordinary job, not in entertainment industry
>>107250565>Name a gen more cursed than gen 4Council They'd technically be the first 2-man gen if they didn't absorb Irys
>>107250571I know the BBC ho is runie I think right? Literally on live tv.I don't know about the new ones though, I just know the croc is cute and so is her accent.
>>107250507>putting a child murderer in holo earthQrd? I haven't visited this board on weeks.
>>107250048>dizzy occasionallyNo. She is literally permanently dizzy for all her life. There are medications against that part, but they fuck up your libido and make you angry all the time.
>>107250590yeah, keep sucking on that management cock nigger. Hololive love your sucking dick talent
>anons turn this into a Hololive vs Phase shitfestLock in guys, this is not what we should be focusing on
>>107248461Reminder this stream is scripted and the management has given greenlight for everything she said in this stream after going through a rigorous auditing process and this is also why it takes 3 days for her to prepare for this announcement.
>>107248583how many streams this month, doobyfag?
She rushed through this section really fast. Who is she talking about here? Rrats?
Can someone fill me in if this counted as mismanagement
>>107250507Go eat some cow shit, Raja
>>107250645IRyS was already a solo debut at this point. And, I guess, you could say AZKi too.
>>107249778>You could argue whether or not overwork sped up the health issuesyou don't have to, she said as much herself.
>>107250572>also Hololive fans do not shit up other generalsHoly kek
>>107250507I didn't mention indians though brownbrogot something to tell us?>>107250614>runs awayconcession accepted, crapskin
>>107250694No
>>107250643she can work as Kson's lackey and travel all around the world with her. Kson is actually doing pretty well I thought the vshojo incident will kill her and yet she survived.
>>107250692They hate each other. You know, that one.
kek flowglow 3d stream just got pushed back by 15 mins. i wonder if the staff are all scrambling around trying to decide if they should cancel it or not
>>107250474She's not reincarnating.
>>107250692Some talents love homocollabing while Kanata was vehemently against it. You can blame the homocollabers
>>107250538too many whores in phase to bother distinguishing between themliterally can't stop talking about BBC to the point they gave their newly debuted girls a nickname with itNTR roleplay streams, swinger parties, etc.disgusting>>107250571now this is cope
What does she mean by this
>>107250537>God, maybe it's time to drop vtubing as a hobby in general, my heart just cannot take this anymore.hope this become redpill for the others as well
>>107250130The EN thing always seems disingenuous to me, considering one quit because of health reasons and one because she wants to become a housewife and mother. It's only really been Ame and Gura whobquit because of that.
>>107250641They tell their managers what to do, not the other way around. They want a new song? The managers contact the producers, lyricist, musicians, etc.All most Holos ever do is approve shit and provide vocals.
>>107250692kanata thinks watame is a WHORE
>>107250721>I thought the vshojo incident will kill herI didn't follow it closely, but even I know that vshojo management was so fucked up, they made every talent look like a victim. Even those who previously stood up for the company.
>>107250579>her word that she won't stay in the entertainment industryMy JP is shit so I would appreciate if an anon could clarify whether she meant no more vtubing, or nothing in it at all, even being a BTS assistant for a talk show even.>32 years old with 3 years warehouse worker and 6 year of weird middle management at a entertainment company. With underlying health condition This is a lot to work with, and that's not counting the soft skills she has. You have to been through some pretty brutal job markets if you think this is bad.>In this economy I don't think soIf she had 0 experience, yes. But the value (both perceived and actual) of experience is exponential, even a few years is a godsend, a decade of actual work means she's fine.
>>107248461Vtubing bring lots of depressed news lately. I'll return to animu until 563 come back
>>107250710>>107250770you're free to direct me to any known discord group instead of handwaving with forced laughs covering up your seethesobbingI'll wait
>>107250659Cover put a guy who killed a mom and her kid into holoearth as an npc, with the same name and dialog referencing the incident, and wearing the outfit he wore in the most famous pic of him, for some fucking reason. Not only did it get them on mainstream news, but when they put out their apology they tried to say it was all just a coincidence and not intentionalat all, japanese people started shit talking them even more even on the holoearth twitter itself.
>>107250606Speculative value is tied to the company's fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders. Profit can be up or down but the relative worth to investors can be opposite and can trigger options.
Kanata said cover is fucking trash
>>107250757>gave their newly debuted girls a nickname with it>NTR roleplay streams, swinger parties, etc.Fucking what lol. Show your work here anon what the fuck are you talking about
>>107250592>fleshtuberIs she pretty like kson?
>>107250794she is going to be a neet for a while she is sick anonshe cannot work anymore (for now)
>>107250692Her collabs with Malenia took too much out of her
>>107250321Makes sense.Kiara is sticking around just a little longer so she can do a venue live. Ina could never get approval if it was just herself, but with Kiara it is possible. Think of it as one last item on the bucket list before Ina says farewell.
>>107250721Nope, she avoid all kind of trouble these days. She'd rather work cashier job
>>107250799Ah yes, just like the "known discord groups" which I'm sure you have links to for your imaginary opposition as well, right?
>>107250823>D-DIDN'T HAPPENholy cope
>>107249800next up is Nenechi, mark my words. She doesn't sound stable for over 2 years now and is "off" in collabs. Haachama will just linger in the company the same way she did in the 8 years prior
nuke the thread, nuke all of /vt/ in fact
>>107250759she's malding that kanata didnt tell her in advance kek, damage control stream in few hours.
>>107250850>WHATABOUTYOUWHATABOUTYOUWHATABOUTYOUoof someone's feeling the walls closing inwaiting
>>107250458Yes otherwise they literally would not have to be in hololive and you'd deny that vehemently
>>107250852Show. 0wjww
so is this finally my chance to marry kanata so i can financially support her in these trying times?
>>107250679>Believe the talents!>N...no, not that part!!!
will we get 4th gen collab again?
>>107249837if I was a manager you'd be sure I'd order double the amount in 3 editions
>>107250679>NOOO SHE'S LYING MANAGEMENT IS EVIL COVER IS EVIL SHE CAN'T JUST BE A RETARDED JAPANESE WOMAN
>>107250759she sounds pretty irked that Kanatan threw one hell of a curveball
2025 was a devastating year for hololive
>>107250833Probably but anons are delusional if they think you can be a reliable specialist for 9 years with all the skills gained during it, and still end up slotted into a soul-draining job after.
>>107250759is she going to do a crying stream like she did for Coco?
>>107250628>yea and Rushia was suicide baiting everydayNigga r u retarded????There's massive difference between >Woman with degenerative disease explaining to her fans why she hasn't been streaming And>Mentally ill woman who's a washed up e-celeb that knows she can bait attention by mentioning she's suicidal
would be funny if she says taiwan is a country on her graduation stream
>>107250885>>107250891the BBC tweet is still upthe NTR roleplay stream has been archived elsewhere on the net toosorry sweatywant a clip of heckin' based redpilled rabbit whore bringing up BBC out of nowhere too?or one of the members singing about wanting a BBC to cum inside her?>>107250929zero proof Holofans ever did that btw
>>107250887quick john hololive, go to Japan right now and scour the wastes for a <5'4 7/10 japanese girl that is KanataI believe in you
>Flowglow 3D stream got delayed for this shitFuck you Amane Kana
I actually don't get it. She listed her reasons as issues with workload and management, not her hearing loss. If hololive really is "everything" to her, why leave? Why not just talk with the company and take it easier if it's that bad? Is the internal structure of the company THAT fucked, that there was truly no solution to this? She would've had to graduate once she lost her hearing anyway, why do it now?
>>107250759@Grok show original
Tonight the Kiseki Knot was untied.
>>107250765>It's only really been Ame and Gura whobquit because of that.It's also MASSIVELY downplaying obstacle of being barred out of Japan they had to deal with for the first 3 years of their careers
>>107250942the Christmas angel delivers
>>107250759she's gonna murder kanata for speaking the truth
>>107250966Yes, I fucking do. Show what you're talking about holy fuck why is that so hard.
>>107250842>Duolive to pioneer new possibilitiesOr to accelerate graduation queue.Kanata had her 1st live 3 months ago. So any bets for June 2026 ?
>>107251016don't worry bro she was just being """"""""""""""creative"""""""""""""""
So what now? Going to say Kanata of all people wasn't dedicated enough, wasn't loyal enough, didn't give enough?
>>107250993There’s always a solution. There are members who do less than what one would consider to be bare minimum. If she wanted to stay, she could. She doesn’t want to.
The 2025 numbers are in.
>>107250999Management just crossed the Unicon
>>107251067Fubuki already seems to be going down that route, so probably.
>in one situation she got hit with work that should've been handled by a different department entirely, and she is the only talent this happened to>cover just went whoopsies we won't let it happen again! This is extremely fucked honestly. Like it sounds like she had to handle something like logisitics all on her own for no reason. And she's talking about a specific incident here.
>>107251008Gura quit because she's lazy. She wanted to be an idol but didn't want to put in the work to BE an idol. Girls like Mori, Kanata, Marine and so many others proved its possible, your jsut need to put in the work.This is coming from somone who loved Gura, she's just not cut out for actually working. She shoulda just stuck to karaoke and maybe doing some originals occasionally. She didn't have the commitment or discipline for the rest; for the dancing, the concerts, etc.
>>107251060>NTR-ishkek, gets me every time
>D-DOESN'T COUNTtypical brown behaviorhttps://streamable.com/jwlfb0
I guess it is truly a December when there is no angel... ;-;https://youtu.be/bsY705cj1kw
>>1072509931. Hololive is ultracompetitive. If you aren't gonna do top job you are gonna be pressured to leave. If you're Japanese as well, it's culturebound to step down if you can't do your 200%, not even just 190%.2. Job changes sometimes work better with transition time to relax, settle other affairs, and depending on the job, prepare for the next one. If she already has a future in mind, then the latter is very likely.3. Being a supportive company doesn't mean letting you do a half assed job. A good airline might give pilots lots of benefits but you don't get to fly more recklessly, that's not a "corp benefit" that's failing your your high-demand duty.4. Ending at the end of a year might be symbolically important for her.
>>107251076Which is why I find her saying hololive was everything to her weird. She has also said before that she will never quit, and she will do this job as long as her body allows her. I don't even watch Kanatan but I honestly felt betrayed not gonna lie
Phase won
>holo graduating>holofags would rather talk about BBCwhy are they like this
>>107251060Wtf does BSS stand for
It's always funny how there's suddenly 10s of thousands of people who love these 2k CCV bitches when it's time to graduate. But back when there was an opportunity to actually support them nobody watched them or bought their merch.
>>107251119heed him no mind, the fish literally pays them or gives false promises of being his oshi's mod one day
>>107250759When you're a shareholder, you don't like it when someone hurts your company's public image.
My heart is about to burst. How can I possibly cope?
>>107250759>Rrats being spun from a shittily worded grok phrasingShe said they seriously just learned the news about Kanata right now tards.
>>107251169I browse /trash/ /vcuck/ everyday bro
So after watching her stream.I'll put it mildly. Some of it is her fault. She asked for more work, she got it. She got sick, management tried pulling away more work from her, she's stubborn, got sick again. Managment again tried to resolve it. STILL SHE WANTED MORE.Now she actually cannot keep up anymore.So why the fuck did she do it like that?
>>107251048damn brownie can't even post something that is *apparently* widespread and everywhere on the boardcuriousmeanwhile this very thread is proof enough of coordinated Holoanti spam but go off crapskin
>>107251119oh this clip again lmao is that itshe was singing a gay parody song>but my fetishsorry she's said on stream before she would only ever date her skin tone or lighter :)
>>107251170it's like an offshoot of NTR where the guy likes a girl but she is together with someone else already or gets together with themtranslates to some shit like "I loved her first"
>>107250993>Why not just talk with the company and take it easier if it's that bad?She literally said she already did that and things didn't improve enough for her situation. And that "This was a major factor in my decision"She also made a weird comment I don't see a lot of people point out about "relationships with other holomems". She said >There were situations over a long period that were mentally burdensome for me and made it difficult to collaborate smoothly within the necessary scope of work>I approached these matters from a professional standpoint, but there were still repeated instances in which coordination became difficultLike, reading between the lines... did she have fights with several holomems? Was she ostracized (aka Haachama'd)?
I honestly can't wait for the downfall of hololive, nothing stays popular forever
>>107251162What did they win, I hope it's the lottery so they can stop working jobs on the side and concentrate on streaming!
>>107251162Did Vspo EN even do a gen debut? I thought they were individual debuts. I was also under impression Riko debuted before Jira, but I don't follow them that closely though.
>>107251169It's well known that catalog and /#/ posters are the same ones who browse /trash/the individual holo generals are mostly fine though
>>107250993>Is the internal structure of the company THAT fucked, that there was truly no solution to this?Why do you think A-Chan left.
>>107251201>IT WAS A JOKE SHE'S A HECKIN' BASED REDPILLED CHUUBER LIKE THE REST OF PHASEholy copewe all know if a Holo girl did that you would say it was 110% serious but go off crapskinalso this was the same whore who unironically called someone transphobic btw lmfaolike are we really going to be pretend leftists/wokies don't fetishize blacks? is this the absolute state of phasecuck cope in (almost) 2026?
>>107250833Actually she's just gonna be a housewife (mine) to raise our 3 children (mine, and also all me)
>>107251238she was blacklisted due to her closeness with kson same as haachama.
>>107251162LONG LIVE PHASE AND VALLURE
like they literally can't help themselves from talking about it
>>107251303Because she had to go take care of her sick family?
>>107251162reminding me of pixellink is unnecessarily cruel
damn, now it makes sense why she suddenly broke down and started crying during that metal gear solid stream...
>>107250579>Then we also have to respect her word that she won't stay in the entertainment industry so that's 80% down. Then the NDA stops her from saying she is KanataThere is no NDA that stops her from saying she is Kanata in her CVYou are right that it will be hard for her to find a normal office job, though, but there are many other choices and it's not like she is in dire need of money
>in the end vshojo won
>hololive still imploding>vshojo literally does not exist anymore>phase is an actual mental asylum>indie whores are tearing at each other's throats>meanwhile nijisanji has steadily recovered from the purple traitoryou love to see it
>>107251389>best member can't even sell tickets and has to be saved by Holo girls>another one is currently getting eaten alive by the woke tranny xitter crowd they courted for a "nazi outfit"lmfaoooo
>i did a lot of extra work for the company i shouldn't have done though that got resolved after long talks with the company>the workload was too hard that it affected my already fragile health, and despite assurances things would improve from the company it wasn't enough for me>as for my relationship with other holomems there were "mentally burdensome situations" that made collabs difficult>i would prefer i would have stayed>i won't reincarnate actually i'll exit entertainment industry altogether and pick a normie jobwas she... was she traumatized from the whole ordeal?
>>107251428>another one is currently getting eaten alive by the woke tranny xitter crowd they courted for a "nazi outfitWhat the fuck did I miss
>>107251418Kuzuha could kill himself live on stream tomorrow and you would still be talking about anycolor stock price lmfao
>>107251112>Gura quit because she's lazy.Yeah I'm not debating that, it's obvious at this pointBut to say "some girls can take stress and obstacles better, others not, though that would say alot about EN girls with their graduation rate"Feels like a disingenuous way to "dunk" on EN when they had to deal with the obstacles Covid presented. Like several them hadn't even met each other IRL or set foot in Cover HQ prior to 2022, no other branch had both those problems
>>107251319Can't wait to hear her thoughts on having yet another oshi graduating
>>107251418>indie whores are tearing at each other's throatsDelulu
false flaggers of the thread, do you have design for your flag? there are an awful lot of you, i would hope you have unionized by now. why the shift from pretending to be from nijisanji's fanbase to pretending to be from phase's fanbase in recent months? does pretending to be from nijisanji not get bites anymore?
>>107251462zentrannya dealing with the consequences of courting the rainbow haired freaks that are ligger fans
>no stickyWhy?
>>107251490I think it's clear Phase is the trend now, people post like three words and instant replies
>>107251504jannies only care about EN only
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A8fEWLke2Y
>>107251504>Why?Jannies genuinely don't care
>>107251504The biggest vtuber in the world (Gawr Gura) already graduated. Everybody else pales in comparison.
>>107250244Korone, unironically. Azki as well.I'm rewatching GTA (again, again) and those are really close. Marine jumped ship for Ao, and before that she was close to Chloe... and Aqua... Luna is more of a solo streamer, same with Watame, and Towa has other friends because she was eating dirt after debut. Kanaluna was always Keyfabe, they don't vibe in the slightest, what with Luna being way older and with a longer history, and much less interest in Music.
>>107250297The highest total Superchats despite turning them off for at least a year, only behind Rushia, Coco, Pekora, Marine and Aqua. Sold the most albums out of her gen, only behind Marine, Fubuki, Miko and Suisei on oricon. Funded her own kanaken live. And Sololive. Has multiple sponsors.
>>107251558>more proof that the tranny jannies on /vt/ are Holoantisthanks for the image bro>WAHHHHH WHY NO STICKIES FOR OTHER GROUPS IT'S ONLY HOLO FUCKING HOLO ARGHGHGHHGHGHGHthe dox didn't go far enough I fear
Corporate vtubing is dead.The hobby will rightfully return back to indies after being usurped for almost decade by greedy and inept corpos.
>>107251558>>107251611also>ESLnot really all that surprising that the browncord has people on the moderation team if I'm being honest
gonna miss Kanata's souls streams
>>107251564This post wins the clueless dramatourist award
>>107251303Because she had to take care of her family. Can we not make shit up?
>>107251664how new?
>>107251450Why did you change everything she said to make it look like Cover was the one asking her to do stuff when she specifically said that she was too stubborn and asked for more work when Cover tried to actually decrease it?
>>107251664This. The entirety of Phasekek's roster streaming at the same time can't even beat one of the top indies.
>>107251694>she had to take care of her family>debut as a vtuber>>107251551
>>107251707almost like the dramabrowns are intentionally skewing her words as they did with all the other previous Holo graduations or something...hmmm...
>>107251462"She" made her new outfit a black and red early 20th century military dress uniform.
>Luna's gonna fire up the stream anywaymaybe her treating hololive as "just another job" is really the way to go for corpos
>>107251504>>107251558>>107251611>stickies are only made for topics that would otherwise flood the board with new threads if uncontained>ANti JaNNieS DoN't CaRe!!!!It's EOPs on this board who don't care, not the jannies.
do liggerbrowns actually think the OG vtubers weren't corpo?you can't be that naive right
>>107251766Clearly there's something special about them, even if they were ex-corpos, considering Kson's numbers are pure dogshit.
>>107251450She wanted to be an idol. Realistically, was there any other choice for her to remain in the entertainment industry? Hololive was already the biggest virtual idol group (that offered best treatments, too). Being an indie likely will set her idol career back years if not decade compared to where "Kanata" was. With her ear's condition, might as well just end it at the peak since she doesn't have infinite amount of time to chase after her dream anyway
>>107251558Based, holojannies ran this board for too damn long
>>107251734He however appears to have forgotten some crucial event
>>107251765>pic has nigger janny literally crying about how Hololive "gets special treatment" with stickies>in reality it's because Hololive is just 10000000000000x more popular than everyone else and had way more discussion and posts per minute>"NOOOO YOU CAN'T SHIT ON THEM IT'S YOU YOU YOU"TJD honestly
Luckily JP7 is on the way.
stickied, so all might see the failure and shame!
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>107250244lamycompletely forgot they had a radio show
>retarded speculations start up>ESL tier english 3rd worlders made the internet as shit as their home countries
>>107251821Hololive's popularity was inorganic anyways
>>107251851Oh wow you're right, wasn't the previous Hololive graduation not stickied though? I think Ao didn't get it.
>>107251791no like I'm saying the OG vtubers were all corpo as fuck and liggerbrowns are newfags/just that retardedjust because they didn't have a "SONY®" right on screen doesn't mean they were indie
>>107251908there's the signature ESL crapskin seethe and deflection I see
>>107251867Fish + cunny = Funny
>>107251908meanwhile in reality, literally every other vtuber corpo and "big" indie has to shamelessly viewbot to come close to Hololive
The leech is finally gone
>>107251707>my reason for graduation was NOT disagreements with anyone in the company, or burnout.5 paragraphs later>i consulted management to resolve these issues but many of the underlying causes involved broader structural or organizational challenges that could not be easily fixed>[...] Management did make efforts within their ability, but considering my current health I found it difficult to envision a future in which I could continue my activities with peace of mindIf you actually read Kanata's graduation script you'll notice she contradicts herself several times like this.
>>107251910ao was already considered a goner for like a year however, and iirc didn't even have an actual graduation stream. she just stopped existing and that was that. I don't recall if she was already on indefinite hiatus before graduating but I believe so. so basically she had already stopped existing in all but name and faded away without even a goodbye stream. very different from PPT.
>>107252004more ESL brown babbling dishonesty
>>107251867why does this child have no underwear?
>>107251274Arya/Remia/Jira debuted together. Riko and Narin debuted together a few months later.Then Eris debuted just a week ago.
>>107250635>>107250315P/E -> Profits to Earnings ratiobasically tells you how speculative a stock ishigher is WORSE actually. Bubbly AI shite has like 50+.
>>107250064because you can just say NO if the managers tell you to do somethingand if you say NO often enough, they will stop asking you to do shit and you can just do what you want
>>107248583>somehow yagoo is to blame for Kanata's Meniere diseaseNijisis, please...
>>107249544She already has voice acting roles (please god new seaons of Jashin) so you might lose her for long perioeds of time at any moment
Bets on Haachama graduation by February?There's no way she's recovering from her past issues, and they'll want to rip the bandaid off in pairs again.
just fucking end my fucking life
>>107252053Easy penis (mine) access
>>107252004That wasn't a disagreement or burnout, though. There are some contradictions but what you quoted wasn't one
Grimmi the witch and her tarot cards...
>>107252120it's pointless to try and reason with a shitskin ESL that is just looking to stoke the flames of dramahe legit quoted her saying management tried to make things work but is still trying to push the "Hololive management is EEEEEVIL!" angle
>>107252004You are painfully disingenuous
Kurolive isn't real.
ear hort
>>107252053Can't control their bladders yet and they stain them too much with pee droplets.
I wish her luckThe world is a cold and unforgiving place to someone with dreams
i can't believe we will never get to see this ever again
>>107252152>i don't have to engage with this argument because i have imagined it's being spoken by The Other>anything i disagree with is just "stoking the flames of drama">still whining about nobody liking managementholodrones this your mans?
>>107252212FUCK! Now I want to cry again
lol
>>107252216>devolved into even worse ESL prattleholy fucking shit I hit the nail dead on
>you've lived long enough to see Hololive crumbles in front of you
>>107252212The universe is fucking cruel
>>107252194no that's the famous female pilot, but yes she's not returning any time soon
>>107251162>group under V4mirai has 7 members stillPHASEKEKS CAN'T COUNT
Guys, stop trying to understand why Japanese wont work less even if it kills them
meniere's disease sounds like hell
>>107249242Its fucking 4chan ! /VT/ is a contingency plan to contain schizo /here/. If VT wouldnt exist, every single of them would be a male vtuber.
>>107252216>holodronesare you the brazilian/spic or the indonesian? KEK>>107252253ESL nijipag...
>>107252253>>107248583Not-kanata will release the yagoo files 2 weeks from now, amiright?
>>107252216>imagined it's being spoken by The Othershut up Lacan
>to see Hololive crumbles>>107252292yes he is
>>107252101>There's no way she's recovering from her past issues, and they'll want to rip the bandaid off in pairs again.Yeah she's done this time, people need to prep, we say this before with AO, and to a lesser extent with Sana and Shion.can't beat menhera
>>107250193Maybe she was afraid she'd lose her resolve and be talked out of it.
>>107252294based in indonesia tier postespecially with that shitskin grammar marring it
>NOOOO IGNORE THE FACT THE MEMBER HAS A KNOWN PROGRESSIVE HEALTH CONDITION, HOLOLIVE IS EEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL EVIL EVIL EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIL!!!!!!!!!1!!!!brown meltdown
>>107251504Looks like one mod is willing to spite the janitors and mods who hate /vt/
>>107252337>Plenty of other members doing the same shit workload as Kanata>Those memebers are still in/not complaining>mutations like Ayame exist somehow>BLACCCCKKKKKKKKKK COMPANYYou dramashitters are only seeing what you want to see and missing the greater picture
VShojo?
>>107252314>half of the talent are menheras>the other half have physically debilitating health conditionsWhy can't Cover hire healthy people?
COME HOOOOOOMEWHITE MAAAAAAAANYour oshis will never leave you
>>107252406That's what I though, typical racist /pol/ incel babble, you're done
>>107249884Yea no shit you retard
every time these threads are full of ESL shitskins starting flamewarsmeanwhile legitimate yabs from phase, niji and ligger whores are wiped clean off the catalogreally makes one think!
>>107252419HE'S DONEHE'S FINISHEDHE'S COOKEDIT'S OVER FOR HIM
>>107248461She's finally leaving? That took a while. Should've left at the same time as coco. Did kson failed to poach her?
>>107252337Anon hololive fans have always been a cult, why do you think you never hear about Mel's new account rica or a-chans new one rei, because they make covercorp look bad and hololvie fanboys gotta protect the company by pretending they don't exist. Honestly sickening these subhuman faggots don't give a shit about the streamers and just wanna console war dogshit companies and worship the management. Hell, look at how they tried to cover up and protect cover after that stupid holoearth bullshit made the news.
People just want to mourn not deal with ragebaiting Indians, mods if you have it in your heart do something about it.
>>107252283skkr exist, you can post your schizo rrat there
>>107252464Okay if the management is this bad why haven't that got scrapped or moved around yet? why aren't more members coming out about the "abuse"?
>>107248461
>>107248461The company transition to 3D recording work claims another one. It's going to burn out your oshi eventually before they even realize it. And while many of you may deny this, you're already seeing the pressures from the near week-long streaming hiatus to attend those daily "meetings". They will all break eventually in the end, as is now.
>>107250108what's the clique?
>>107252490why would they? >>107251558 this already revealed that /vt/ moderation fucking despises Hololivethey don't want to do anything drastic like nuking Holo discussion off /vt/ so instead they allow shitskins to troll and derail nonstop instead/vt/ has the most jannies on the site alongside /v/ btw so it's obviously complicit
sorry for your loss Holobros
>>107252490Mourn somewhere else, anon
>>107252505Vshojo stole money from the girls for years and they didn't say shit about it, re:act drove a chick to throw herself into a train and people still apply to join and don't say shit about management. People in these companies no matter if it's a jp or en one don't shit talk their bosses.
Cover is somehow the worst company ever, but no member talks bad about them even after leaving, and half the members say they want to stay with them forever
every vtuber corpo got worse when it intensified "on-stage idol" activitiesit tracks for literally all of them
>>107252528>Kanata specifically said she isn't graduating because of burning out>It's going to burn out your oshiHoeh?
>>107248461Isn't it just one ear? Her other ear should still be fine. Why is there a need to quit?
>>107252530gamers gen
>>107252490>mods if you have it in your heart do something about it.Bro I hate to tell you this but, this is being allowed even more or less permissed for a certain reason don't achieve search phase + grapeape Head over to HoloTower if Kanata was your oshi they'll respect her wishes there.
>>107249276There is, the homo existence is a mismanagement
>>107252540Lumi took one of the good ones. Shame
>>107252490lol look at this faggot
can't wait for nukanata's debut https://x.com/ksononair/status/1954099776368026058
>Ear disease has progressed too much and now she has to quitPain. I'll be watching every stream until the last. I wish I had watched more often.
>>107252553Stockholm syndrome + money
>>107251504there, satisfied? just woke up
>>107252625>Ear disease has progressed too much and now she has to quitARE YOU STUPID IT'S THE MANAGEMENT THE BLACK COMPANY CAUSED THIS / sarcasm
>>107252598panko wouldn't say that
>>107252609vslutho had NDAs as does niji brownietry again
ID is not a real language
>>107252580made me laugh
>>107251238>She also made a weird comment I don't see a lot of people point out about "relationships with other holomems".Sounded more like overlapping and studio booking issues to me, but alas, I only have N2
>>107252663Penguin membership lulu-san amane kanata
>>107252553It's because their friends are still on the company anonKson only had the balls to shittalk Cover's shitty practices and it was before the new management stepped inI can only imagine its worse for everyone now where top talent just drop like flies and tossed aside
>>107252646suddenly I'm for flags on 4chan
Thank you, matsuri
>>107252609Not even the White House managed to make a magical NDA that stop former employees from shitting on them, and you expect Cover to?
>>107251104100% related to her live.You as a talent want it to be special so you also get shoved all the fucking work.
>>107249242Dramafags are the worst because even if nothing is happening they just invent things. They literally make their own food.
https://youtu.be/wwa9Fntuazg?si=Bog6z5qk5iuU1zl-
>>107248643Holoakatsuki keeps growing
>>107252712the only people who get fucked over legally are those who oppose corporationss like nintendoeveryone else keeps it in legal hell forever or has feds out for their head like assange or dotcom
>>107248643you should put the same image using Akatsuki robes
>>107248461> Unicorn icon is leaving Hoora-> Because of health issueFuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck Fuuuuuuuuuuck. Fuck this gay earth.
>>107252663Do they also say humu humu
>>107248837She's returning to this
>>107252684That wouldn't help anymore that the X situation, VPNs exist dude...
>>107248461PPT my beloved
But why...?
I feel all my energy drain. Someone help me, how do I cope with my wife leaving? Everything feels so empty now.
Jelly in the sticky
hi anon
>>107249242>Is this board okay in the head?Ever been in the # general?
dont tell mom, i dont want to be grounded again
>>107252553>no member talks bad about themHaachama chama
>>107252019I've been burned out and "done" with my job once. It passes
>>107252815can you cosplay Larry
dear god please take all of kanata's suffering and send it to nijien and phase connect
>>107252396The strongest gen...
>>107252805simpler times...
>>107251504aged like shit
But there’s one soundThat no one knowsWhat does the (Bootlicker) fox say?
>>107252687Kek
>>107252883they wouldn't survive though.. think of their fates..on second thought please do that
>>107252139Damn, Jan Feb and March belong to Haachama!
>3 seconds after stream ends>pekora: heyyy bestieee
>>107251162Is this a website unironically?
>>107252883when people ask why the holodrones fucked off to their censored tower, it's because of posts like this
>>107248461>If you're sick, you're firedGreat policy there CoverThey could just admit they don't want to pay for their expensive treatment
>>107248461How come she gets a sticky but Chloe didn't?
>>107252883considering no one at the former gets paid and everyone at the latter is irrelevant + talks about nigger penis all day I'd say they're plenty miserable as is
fucking lmao finally
paying my respects
>talent graduates>half the thread is about other companies and BBCwhat do you call this behavior?
>>107252815unironically having an oshi leads to disappointment eventually 100% of the time. it could take 2 years it could take 10, who knows. unfortunately there is a catch-22 with cover's general ethos where they want you to really-really support the girls, but the harder you do, the harder it hurts if your oshi leaves. for some people they can eventually find a new oshi, some can't, I can't be the judge on what you do.but really she's leaving in about as graceful and drama-free a way as possible. actually unprecedented even, in shooting the rrats right away. she piloted ppt like a champ from beginning to end. that's something to be proud of, you have probably one of the greatest chuubas ever as your oshi.
>>107252503>skkrI prefer to post them on the Farms . st At least there is full on doxxing there.
>>107249460>I'm leaving >It's not for marriage>It's not for romance >I'm not pregnant >It's not an issue with management >It's not burnout>I'm not coming back as another Vtuber >I'm returning to the life I had before Oh ok. Well it sounds like she's just had enough of the spotlight and wants to rest on her laurels. Good well earned. I hope she enjoys her peaceful and well earned retireme->It's not like I actually want to go though THEN WTF...WHYYYYYYYY?!
>>107251335>>107251694Go look at her debut song as Yubari Rei. All the dates shown in the video match up with her time in Hololive. All of them paint a picture of a corporation that has had the soul sucked out of it by their massive expansion. Going to take care of family would have been a temporary hiatus.See >>101924820 and >>101925142
>>107251418>>indie whores are tearing at each other's throatsNo really, indie whores are just that, whores, luring weak men with cash and forming massive dyke/misandrist cliques.
>>107253026KEK behaviour. They want PPT to get BBC so they can fap to it.
>>107252488meanwhile in reality people post about ex-Holos even on tower, your rrat stinks almost as bad as the streets you shit on>>107253026do you not see the phase posters ITT?
YOU KNOWYOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WITHYOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE WITHFLOOR COLLAPSING FLOATINGBOUNCING BACK ANDONE DAYI AM GONNA GROW WINGS
>>107253041Health issues, duh.
>>107253026by volume it's mostly holo fans being too aggressive with apologism. if they ignored every imagined slight the thread would be much slimmer.
>>107250993Management has allegedly told talents to say it's their fault to try and reduce speculations.Even Mumei said it and she had almost as much medical reasons to leave as Kanata does.
>>107253041She's famous for being a pathological liar, you're supposed to read in-between the lines
>>107250307>>107250326yeah nah
>>107253098can you cosplay Larry
>>107253026>>107253087samebrowning now too I see
>watch hololive>hololive
Posting in a sticky!>>107253071Yeah she has meniere's disease before she debuted. Shit got worse for her hence the announcement
She might be losing her hearing :(
Oh yeah lets go!MORE ADSMORE WORKMORE CROSSOVER PRODUCTSMORE DEMANDS FROM OUTSIDE COMPANIESMORE TIME AND ENERGY SPENT SELLING BULLSHITFUCK WAS MADE IT GREAT, FUCK THE FANS, MAKE THAT BANK COVERRUN YOUR TALENTS INTO THE FLOOR
i wish her all the best
>>107253103kek
>>107250315Everything is not okay, bro...
>FUCK WAS MADE IT GREATtry again shitskin
>>107253136me too
I thought Kanata was already contemplating leaving before but was talked out of it? Or was that Aqua? Idk I don't really care much for the JP's to keep track too much
>>107253136samethough I really, really, really hope she reconsiders and does in fact reincarnateI don't want the graduation concert to be the last time I get to hear her
>>107253135>t. ban evading, phoneposting SEAgroid
based Cover, letting go a liability that soon be unable to perform due to health problems
>>107253211she wasn't my oshi so I didn't pay the closest of attention to her, but people were whispering about graduation for her years back when she had to go on hiatus due to her ear disease. the thought going around at the time years back was "well it's unironically possible she might become unable to dance because she'll lose her sense of balance along with the hearing" which, would basically end her idol ambitions. it'd also explain why she doesn't want to work in entertainment after this - people would expect her to be an idol and dance. if she can't really do that it'd only disappoint people.
>>107252490>mourning>on 4chanyou're retarded
why can holos never just be allowed to stream only
>>107253286healthcare in japan is free, that ain't it. but if she can't dance that's a problem for an idol.
>>107253286I didn't know you go fat, blind and mute once you lose your hearing.
>>107250073She's an average Japanese woman with dreams, not a European sigmaChad with genius and talent from the 18th century...
>>107253316you literally can't sing without hearing
>>107250418>Hololive was her retirement planOnly retard say this. A true Holofag would know their insane work behind the scenes.
>>107248986Fuck you, Cover baited the rage out of me already
>>107249080Hi Merlie
>>107253093tranny jannies and mods do shit like this and allow all the shitposting ITT and probably still wonder why the dox happened this yearcrazy
>>107253338Can't be worse than Choco or Noel
>>107253316Well, I assume that getting vertigo attacks frequently would make dancing or anything that requires focus a pain, too
>>107250856She has explicitly said she won't graduate anytime soon. Whether you believe it or circumstances change is another matter.
>>107249283lol, she said the main reasons were the overworking, tight schedules, and tasks that she had to do that a talent shouldn't. I guess cultists will defend the big corpo to the end lmao.
>>107250123Less cursed than Umisea
>>107249000sadly this is probably true, but also I feel like one of the reasons she kept going all this time is to spite them and not give them the pleasure
>>107252883Fuck you. I hope she transfer her suffering to you instead.
>>107248489You're the baby?
FI knew this day was always going to arrive the moment she mentioned her health issues. This was inevitable.
Hololive is just gonna crumble as we all watch?
She didn't tell anyone ahead of time because she didn't want it to get leaked. Imagine how disheartening and even scary it must be for the talents knowing that their personal dealings could get leaked at any time...Why doesn't Cover just do the obvious solution and internally share some innocuous but false info and pinpoint where and who it leaks from?
>>107250309nostalgic and sad
>>107252786> Unicorn icon is leaving >Hoora-
>>107253355people disagreeing with you isn't shitpostinggo to tower or thicken your skin, sis
>>107253405I don't want her to go either, she's a great performer. OF COURSE she has to be a menhera weird freak collecting bugs and talking about snot eating to a bunch of female coworkers.Lets hear what she has to say, it'll be mengen after stream apparently.https://www.youtube.com/live/JhG1dE9Zaso
>>107253503"she" didn't want it to get leaked. Cover didn't want it to be known before their financial report last month.
>>107253483already happening. You just hadn't realized yet.Aqua was the first domino brick.
>>107248461Good luck in your future activities Taso, you were and always will be a real idol!
>>107253561shoo shoo bvtm
>>107252797God I hope so.
>>107249124>is selfproclaimed unicorn>takes her personal view on 'idols' serious>never betrayed her own 'ideal idol'Anon, after almost a decade of vtubing, maybe its time to start learning Japanese you fucking retard. Fucking EN clipwatcher faggot.
>>107253483Hololive ended the moment they returned to bilibili. You are simply enjoying the radiating warmth leaving a slowly cooling corpse.
>>107253566>brownvtm>ever shitting on jannies and defending Holororutry again pag
>>107251190None of the freaks on /vt/ understand, or are trying to understand japanese. Whether its the language or the culture. They hate idols. They are fans of /vt/ not of vtubing.
>>107250210retarded esl. look up what a put option is
>>107253557I’d say A-chan leaving was the true first domino or the proverbial canary in the coal mine.
I honestly think China’s recent harassment of Japan and Taiwan is the main reason Kanata left the company, they're probably forcing her to stream on bilibili
>>107249518if SEAgroids could read and not spam rrats then this board wouldn't be as dead as it is now
>>107253696>coping with a "no u"epic epic epic >>107251473 your response tho?
>>107248583>uses someone who's still in the companyat least use Saba or Nimi anon
>>107251418>meanwhile nijisanji has steadily recovered from the purple traitoranycolor is massively viewbotting 3/4 of their organs and they're barely competing with HoloJP and still losing massively to HoloEN despite having over 2x the streamersSo no, they haven't recovered from their recline. They never will.
>>107248461Kanata... o7
>>107253776>year 2030>myth/promise totally gone>multiple members of advent/justice gone>SMOL AME IS STILL SOMEHOW THE FUCKING EN MASCOT AT FESffs
I am honestly surprised she lasted so long with that disease. I even forgot she had it.
>>107253802Holo is free to bot their vtubers. It's their own fault if they don't want to play the same game as othersTruth is outside of the retards in /#/, no one cares if a stream is or isn't botted.
>>107253211She’s the one who talked others out of graduating. Marine and Haachama mentioned in the past having thoughts of leaving but after talking with Kanata changed their minds.
migo clique bullies another one out of hololive...
>>107253100>Gradius IIIHoly based nanora
>>107253720Nah the only Holos that need to worry about China/Japan relations right now are Bae and Gigi, mostly Bae since she currently lives in Japan
>>107253894>finally admits anycolor is bottingFinally got tired of keeping the guise up ey?>Truth is outside of the retards in /#/, no one cares if a stream is or isn't botted.Tell that to many of the nijiEN organs that are botted hard but don't see actual money in supas, members, or merch sales(most can't sell more than 1-2 hundred merch sets).
>>107253992too brown
>>107253992what's the fucking code!!!
>>107254003have you ever seen a real japanese?
After reading Kanata's Twitter post, I've come to the unfortunate realization that Cover might actually be a black companyI know this will get lost in the sea of antis that say it every day just to stir shit, but I've watched Hololive for almost six years and I didn't want it to be true
https://x.com/emunculus/status/1995773701527310685https://x.com/emunculus/status/1995772357747597449lol
2025 was quite a year
>>107253406Usotsuki
>>107254105Who's this, and why am I following them already?
What the fuck this is sad. What causes that damn Ménière's disease?
>>107254081>I'm not concern trolling, but let me concern trollTry reading it again.
>graduated before having to collab with malesRespectable
>>107254105Now my twitter is getting filled with JP schizos thanks to this and them shitting themselves over the Bakemonogatari collab
>>107250953No. She never did that again after Coco.
>>107254081As they expanded they decided to hire experienced staff from the industry, and invariably they hired experienced japanese idol abusers. The only time in history that a holo has ever praised a manager change was after omega, every other new manager was a step down.
>>107254125maybe your oshi is fbk too
>>107254162She is.
>not because of a romantic partnerObviously. Our relationship is purely physical
Kaela might be leaving too...
>>107248461I thought she was going completely deaf, so I'm glad she quit because Cover is a shit company instead, which isn't news.
>>107254081you can't trust any organization, anon
>>107254105Herding pigs
>>107254132I just don't know how to interpret this in any way other than Cover systemically overworking their talents despite their protests
>>107254130Not known, it could be a result of other minor health issues that contribute to it developing.
>>107253992Drop the code king
>>107248643Where's mike?
>>107254265Sounds like a middle management problem. Organizing sololives and sponsorships seems to be going fineFes seems to be fineThe expensive studio seems to be fineThe tech and 3d modeling seems to be fine.Every single talent has complained about the managers directly above them and not the top brass or fellow co-workers.
Kanatach...
>>107249094It’s a jab at all the retards that say pregnant/marriage anytime someone leaves an agency
>>107254333Sounds like a upper management problem since it keeps happening.
>>107254030>>107254291
>>107253100such pro, im proud of this princess
>>107250064Ayame gets special treatment.
>>107254333Middle managers exist solely to justify their own existence while pushing their actual work onto everyone below them. Cover's problem is that the most important people, the talents, are stuck at the bottom rung when they should be treated like royalty.
>>107250606So you are admitting that public perception and speculation of Cover is in the shitter and on a downward trend? This isn’t the win you think it sounds like
>>107254265>3In her stream she explained that she was offered to reduce her workload considering her health complications but she turned that down and wanted to push through.Knowing all of the current activities she's been involved with she probably realized continuing with them after pushing herself to this point isn't realistic.
>>107254440Is she an actual yakuza ojou or what?
>>107254333Haato complained about her co-workers and they threw her into an asylum for it.
>>107248643>the absolute state of Chris>so shitty she can't even be an akatsuki
>>107250765Don't forget Sana who quit because she couldn't take criticism over her overblown reaction to her dog and now bans people who even talk about her employment.
why tf is phase getting mentioned here lmao
>>107254544phasefags have to make it about their whores too
>>107250313I've had it happen to me twice, and thankfully both of them were because of the mineral rocks in the tubes thing that I don't remember the name of. But move your head in a special pattern and it goes away.If she has this I don't know how she's ever going to get a job that will work for her?
>>107249094Yes. Fauna left because she wanted to get married and have a baby.
>>107254534She didn't quit because of that, retarded Coverdrone.
>>107254596Keep telling yourself that.
>>107254504Dunno.
My guts are contorted, my heart is aching and I feel empty.It's crushing, I don't even know what to do.
>>107251238Her medical issues probably caused collabs to be hard to organise and would inevitably cause friction with the other members who had to deal with schedule changes & cancellations.
>>107249242Anon there have been problems mounting for a long time over there. This is a Mumei and Chloe situation all over again where people will clinch onto one health problem and sweep every other red flag under the rug. Antis are probability just cheer. I just want the graduations to stop and the core problems addressed. The vtubing world gain nothing if Hololive also fails.
This sucks.At least she was able to get her sololive this year.I hope she finds peace in her next life be a reincarnation or not. I don't think the corporate life will be any easier for her, hopefully she has made enough money to get like a cozy job like a libriarian or some civil servant job and have a comfy life.
COVER IS REMOVING ALL LOLIS IN HOLOLIVE!posting in the sticky
>>107254534nta but considering she later clarified her back was actually fine nah she just didn't wanna be a streamer. the dog was just a convenient excuse to duck out.iirc cover kind of subtly mentioned they weren't happy with her meta. in announcement (I think?) they mentioned they simply "talked to her about her activities" or something along that line which basically you can read between the lines as "we discussed her lack of activities" and she graduated instead of want to actually-stream-more. as to why she was put under the magnifying glass and not ayame, gura etc it's because those girls actually were consistent streamers for at least a year when they were new. sana never was, she crapped out after about a month or so. note how ao who also dropped off early got let go too.
>>107248583BASED
>>107250866seething unicorn
>>107248965Dyrbi?
>>107254596of course, she quit because she was paranoid chinks would blacklist her from gachaslop commissions despite the one nepohiring her being fine lmao
>>1072509422024 wasn’t much betterMel termination, A-Chan leaving, Aqua graduation, Ame affiliation, Chloe and Fauna announcements (Actual grads in Jan 2025)
>>107248461fuck, man. i really liked her voice.
>>107254707>she later clarified her back was actually fineRetard. She was already much better before she even graduated. People just rrated that it was something more permanent and she addressed those rrats, not that she left Hololive because of her back or her dog or whatever else you retarded Holodrones cope about.
>kanata is graduating and no one from yonkisei know about it
Hololive is over
>>107254795everyone was kept in the dark about it.
>>107249310
>>107254824Cover is a black company? More like incompetent. The talents take on work that isn't theirs just because people aren't getting shit done and burn out.
Worst Christmas present ever.
>>107251177Reminds me of Haachama in her last stream going on about how she resents support that comes too late and is more about making you feel good about doing your part rather then actually helping the talent back when she needed it
>Kanata-san, thank you for your hard work over the past six years!>We will continue to work on improving our company to be more supportive of our talents, and we will do our utmost to ensure that both our talents and our fans can smile together.Bro doesn't know he's the ceo and said the same thing 8 times in the past years
>>107254824>>107254847HoloWitches?
>>107250002>having difficulties working with certain peopleHaacham also mentioned certain people, possible the same ones she mentioned.
>>107254877The will of the shareholders is absolute. And they want more profits and less expenses.
>>107250458>writes their songsSometimes, yeahYou can see who writes their songs in the descriptions, they don't write it themselves
>>107254877I wonder if companies and their CEO's are aware that everyone and their mothers do not believe or have any faith in their empty statements
>>107251008>they had to deal with for the first 3 years of their careerswhat years? hololive is already big during EN debut and bunch of clipper so it's not really unknown even in the west. i think even the lowest one (kiara?) has 100k subscribers and gura has 500k BEFORE their debut. this is how hololive was back in the days
who's the oldest hololiver
>>107254811you browns have said this for 2 years now
miko clique will become even more strong once she wins the game awardsits owari da
>>107254795everyone (including coco) will go to her graduation stream and show non-believer the true power of yonkisei no kizuna
>>107255065in what sense? oldest by age or being in hololive
>>107254504her whole point is being pure cuteness, and you don't want to attire the wrath of thousand of schizo otaku for bullying their cute daughter (god the guy who would date Nene and break with her is so dead)
>>107255018japanese have this kind of insulating layer where what they say is supposed to be subtle and it outright requires reading subtext/intent to "get it." they literally think it's dumb to make a point-blank statement with no graceful subtext or wiggle room in interpretation, they say you can't read the air if you don't get it. here it's like, clearly he's saying they fucked up handling her and will try to make sure it doesn't happen again. but yeah they do keep saying that, but they're not gonna tally up all their failures for everyone to review because they'd say he's throwing the company under the bus instead of trying to just brush off this loss.
>>107248461Man.If Hololive kicked her out, who is going to hire her? Deaf, female and with constant nausea...
>>107255065Botan I think.
>>107255165she is destined to became Kson's sex slave again
All this tells me is that all the introverted whores are getting the axe in JP coping that you're fine just gaming while your coworkers go out and have fun is ridiculous That's one thing EN has that JP doesn't, they all help each other to not feel left out
>>107249847>working herself to deaffuck you anon. good one, but fuck you anon
>>107255065I remember someone saying Luna was over 40.After her its probably Botan.
>>107255035So what does that say about Holo now, when they can barely get some of Justice to 500k, when their Dev_is branch has half the retention rate of their old talents?
>>107255065botan mio or luna
>>107255165Japan as social system and she sleeping in a mountain of cash considering she was basicaly hobo for her whole teen life
>>107254877>We will continue to work on improving our company to be more supportive of our talentshe keeps repeating this ever since 2020 while things only seem to get worse
kanata was W faps, will miss her
>>107251568>Korone, Marine>the same ones who were nice to Gura>nice to Chloe and Aqua>the ones who ignored Gura got pointed out by Haachama as ignoring her>Kanata had people she had trouble working withI'm noticing.
I genuinely hope Kanata learns to accept men into her life because there's no way she's going to live comfortably without someone supporting her physically and financially.
>>107254877CEO are supposed to be shareholder puppet that just here to scam money from everyone involed, he already lucky he still CEO
>>107255347As much as I don't believe she can land pipe, losing her virginity might actually fix her no joke.
Thread is filled with retards, phaseniggers and trolls of all kind, but I want to say this is a real shame right when she finally solidified her status in the company, first sololive and everything man... I just can't, what a sad day, I was a casual watcher can't even begin to imagine how the actual heimins feel right now, hope you guys can handle it with grace and for what's worth, I'm sorry for all of you.
>>107252396>remove Sora>replace with FubukiNow you have the cliche.
>Aqua>Shion>Ao>KanataI have a bad feeling we are gonna lose Marine sooner than later, a lot of those she is or was close at one time with have been those departing…
Damn, Hololive really is in its death hoes, huh.......
So which member raped Kanata? Because it's clearly implied if you read between the lines.
>>107255440Me and my member
>>107255418bro imagine the gooning stream without hololive management, LOL
graduation queue is real
>>107249352This is the truth no one wants to accept. Hololive's clout is entirely built on a dwindling pool of "legendary" talents. As they inevitably leave one by one, be it age, health, stress, or other reasons all that's left is the newer members with a bare fraction of their popularity to keep the ship afloat. Hololive will inevitably collapse.
Fuck.... I liked Kanatan
>>107255395Any woman can get laid as long as they're not 5 or below and don't treat men like shit.
>>107253776Nta but Ame is 1000 percent loyal to Saba over Cover.
>>107255440Watame
>>107255526I believe it, fuck lamb vegas
>>107248461Jesus, I'm not even shocked anymore by these announcements, but Kanataso is one of my first and best.
Hololive is a black company
>>107254648Let it all out, go scream somewhere. Look up at the sky and curse God. Throw a metal object somewhere. Then get your favourite drink. Some tears are okay, too.
>>107255576this but niji
>>107249352there are some bright lights such as vivi but even so, part of the obvious problem is they haven't released a new actual holo gen since 2021. Twenty twenty one. It's almost 2026.They said they were gonna try to get people to focus more on their existing talents instead of hire more, and you can easily posit that dev_is is just gens 7 and 8 functionally, but dev_is has its own different formula and intent and isn't the real-real deal holo. it's about fucking time for a real holo gen7.
>>107254081Something is going on every since late 2023. What did the post say?
>>107255576Hololive is not a company
>>107255490brand name has carried blizzard and star wars years after zombification so they'll probably be fine
>>107248643Who the fuck is the pink haired one one at the left of kson
>>107254081should have been clear when Aloe graduated
>>107248461Fubuki: "negligible"
I always wonder if any of the girls who left regreted it later on. I know from watching Not-Aquas "recent" streams that she seems to have lost all enthusiasm she used to have for streaming, it's actually painful to watch her now because she seems so....detached.
>>107255623The issue is that you can't just release more gens and hope you'll get more viewers, the pie isn't necessarily growing, so you might cannibalize your own talents.Them trying out different formulas is a way of trying to reach untapped audiences / expand into different areas, but ultimately, the market is just very saturated and every expansion is gonna have a rather low relative return on investment compared to basically zero cost gaming streams to 30k+ viewers like Pekora or Miko.
phase won
>>107255576True>>107255622Also true
>>107255790>return on investment and that where shareholder fucked up, never went full retard, they could have wasted their money on random shit like 1 millions $ copy of mario bro but no.
She sure got over it really quickly...
>>107255623Honestly, EN and JP both need new blood, considetring all the graduations this year.
>>107255418>AoShe left?!
>>107254330Are you blind?
>graduation sticky >still not even 1000 replies /vt/ has fallen
>>107255333>I'm noticing.No you are not.I'll take those numbers too.
>>107255871No way! All the old fans will totally just move on to another talent in the company, it's all about the box, right?
>>107249352The jap said holo has the same problem of female idol group like AKB, the popular first few gen carried hard and then when they get older and graduate, the group decline, the exp date is around 10 years for AKB, so we will she how holo fare after the 10 year mark
Nobody watched Kanata after Coco left. Stop pretending you guys care.
>>107254265many talents even the stable ones have complained about Staff and studio slots being spread razor thin.I bet the shareholders demanded more output from everyone but simply forgot to regard their staff as people instead of numbers. Studio doesn't pay off itself after all. More and more sololives, group lives etc. There's like a live every month now.>>107254521I listened to that entire rant and god she DOES belong in an asylum. She hates it there but the story about her randomly taking some train, getting off in the sticks, hallucinating and ringing random doorbells to ask for someone to call the police because of a schizophrenic episode tell me she shouldn't live alone.Shame about the model but the girl behind it is fucking insane.
>>107255915This but unironically.At first I was doubtful like you, but Saba, Dooby and Nimi taught me that I was wrong. In the end Hololive fans like the walled garden, and once the girls break out of it they turn into the same slop streamers you can find under every stone on the road.
>>107255976I did watch Kanataso...
If people are wondering if some liver is gonna be fine if they leave holo,then they shouldn't be leaving the company at allOne thing that people don't accept is that majority of people don't care about you in particular, they like the brand and if you're not part of it they don't give a fuck"Taking the inde pill" is just cope for retards cause all those indies would leave their fans in a heartbeat if they could get into hololive
>>107255783Aqua's problem has always been her social anxiety and basically being a Hikki, which is depressing and debilitating even if you don't think it is. Hololive legitimately helped ease that by forcing some level of communication that she needed even if she thought she didn't.
>>107255790the other side of the coin of this argument IMO is waiting just will not give a midas touch to existing talents already. girls with slow growth would get only a very small benefit to there being 0 new talents for a long long time. did aqua leaving make anyone even start to pivot to a new talent and say "this is the new Aqua guys" - no. and it just won't happen. every talent is unique and you can't force her audience to not just go follow her to her next incarnation. in ppt's case if there is no next incarnation the heimin are not going to just go crown a new ppt and absorb themselves into that existing talent. if no new talents are introduced for forever and half the roster goes away those fans are just gonna go follow those girls off to their indie gigs. cover inevitably will lose by doing nothing. granted it shouldn't spam talents so fast that they get pushed out the limelight before getting a chance to really build a following, but doing nothing at all isn't a solution either.
>>107255979>I bet the shareholders demanded more output from everyone but simply forgot to regard their staff as people instead of numbers.Literally many such cases, and by many I mean 'every time'.Shareholders are the closest thing capitalism has to communism and more people need to hate it.
>>107255979>tell me she shouldn't live alone.In fact, she doesn't.Anyway, Haachama is the sanest schizo. She's just insane, and never really did anything with malice.
>>107254265>tasks far beyond the originally expected scope of my role occurred repeatedlyThey were Kanata into A LOT of project the last year>I told them for years I was having trouble but the organization internal structure would have to change first for something to be doneWtf? This reminds me of Yagoo's tea time which was put in as a solution the graduations last year but Yagoo didn't know Bae--who is pushed as much as. Ina for company promotions--spoke Japanese. There is a disconnect and Cover can't say they didn't know about Kanata's problems.
oh no... anywayhttps://x.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1995817358149988766
>>10725590420205 was very roughI eneded up watching anime and reading manga again to cope.
>>107256001Yeah, it's actually sad so see how much she regressed.
>>107248461So this is the end of the line? The very limits of Kanata? It's been an honor to see you shine, Kanatan, i'll miss you dearly.
>>107248461This is the way vtubing ends
>>107254924I hope it's really just her Sololive.Holowitches is another one of these Suitslop tie-ins and the poor writer has to come up with a third reason why someone leaves plus we need another victim for the pile.
>>107250012Jesus Christ you fucking schizos really are a piece of shitty work.
>>107255623Hololive lost the drive from holo x and the popularity.Early gens were random wannabe streamers starting from almost nothing and creating their characters/offering from mostly scracth.Now they hire "clearly talented and/or almost professionals" and is not the same thing.Koyori was a seasoned streamer and huge indie but she's nowhere near miko or pekora or subaru ability, she failed to evolve her character.Laplus was the really talented hire but had 0 discipline, no doubt due to holo being big and so "well i made it already".New gens are missing the grind and the pressure, they are also often "already formed" professional not even trying to find that "gimmick" making them special.Like, i'm really disappointed by niko, huge youtube comedian/content creator but going nowhere.
>>107256109>Laplus was the really talented hire but had 0 discipline, no doubt due to holo being big and so "well i made it already".I still believe the nepo baby rrat that she's some higher up's daughter/niece/sister
>>107256109>Like, i'm really disappointed by niko, huge youtube comedian/content creator but going nowhere.Can't be a company problem. I mean, look at our dear arthoe, Raden. She came up with a completely new formula.
>>107256142>I still believe the nepo baby rrat that she's some higher up's daughter/niece/sisterNah, Laplus was just a vibe check fail. You can't expect to identify them all from a few interviews, you still end up letting a Rushia or two into the walled garden, from time to time
>>107255425probably for the better before youtube ceases to exist after US hyperinflationI don't want to see unironic tie-ins of holo with the Japanese JSDF to recruit nerds for the meatgrinder in Taiwan
>>107255065Korone is the oldest I'm aware of. I don't know how old Botan is.
Why does she make a written statement but says something different in her stream??
>>107256048gen 4 never really bonded after coco left they were all on their own and went off with their own cliquesexcept kanataso she was a loser and had no friends
I'll never forget the comedy skit with Towa, Luna and Mio.
>>107252053The VA of that child is on her late 30s
>>107256187Nerds will go to fight China the moment they bomb a Japanese anime/gaming company they like
>>107255983Except every time Saba streams, she beats out everyone in EN. And every tine Nimi streams, she's at the top of viewership for EN, outside of if events are happening on someone's channel.
>>107256177>Laplus was just a vibe check failBeen on this boat for a while, Captain.
Holy fuck, hololive is over.
i hope she doesn't distance herself from holomen
>>107256026Some fags here treat it the exact same way
>>107256023I agree, doing nothing is also not a winning strategy, is just very difficult I imagine to figure out what to do, which is why I think they have been trying a few different things (with limited success). >>107256109Hololive especially shouldn't even need to focus on hiring established streamers, just by virtue of being part of the hololive brand, new talents will get quite a few eyes on them and through that the opportunity to prove themselves. The most important quality should be willingness to work hard / stream long hours, not if they had a semi-successful youtube channel or not beforehand.
>>107256109>Koyori was a seasoned streamer and huge indie but she's nowhere near miko or pekora or subaru ability, she failed to evolve her character.Koyori always felt way too forced and fake, I was never able to enjoy her content once I realized how much of her stuff was set-up. I know that's common for all of them but with her there was no illusion
Tinnitus is one of the most excruciating pains around, and it never goes away, so she spent 6 years living in hell and pretending all was fine just to amuse you.
>>107255418This is a Gura situation all over again. Everyone who left from Aqua to Mumei was connected or really close to Gura in some way. I think whatever happened to Fauna that pushed her out early was the tipping point both for Gura and Mumei.Marine was one of the JPs that was always really nice and supported Gura, being a fan of hers. So Gura graduation also heavily affected her. Point is if this is a Gura situation with Marine then at some point Marine will hit her breaking point, it's when now rather than if.
>>107256285Yeah but they're not the ones calling the shots and profiting off it so they're just annoying.
>>107248986puyo puyo tetris? fuck sega!
>>107256305The only reason the Japs were 'nice' to Gura was because she had a fat tail (numbers) and her sales were inverse to her chest size
>>107255979Those feelings came from somewhere. And Haachama wasn't a Twisty or a Rushia.
fml. This was my longest living membership, at 53 months.Maybe I don't have a foot to stand when it comes to this. I haven't been active much in vtubing this last year, work keeps me too busy. But it still hurts. She always wanted to sing so much...
>>107255852well it's not about her so it's not interesting
Something I've learned as a fan of vtubers and regular streamers over the years is that you cant maintain a long term streaming career unless you completely control the amount of time you put into it.Schedules and events, even when self-imposed, will inevitably lead to burn-out and pain over a long enough period of time.I think corpo vtubers are inherently predisposed to graduating early unless the person is a deranged workaholic.
>>107251190>shareholder>learning about this with the public statementlol lmao
>>107255852>my buddy Kanatabro Kiara is so fake, and a leech!
>>107254444how dare you blame management when "friend" said "As long as I'm here..." kek
>>107255783To be fair, she didn't even want to redebut initially, it's simply a smaller side thing for her now, so it's kind of expected that it's a bit lower energy.
>>107248583Kill yourself retard
>>107251190this, grok basically does crunchyroll subs for translating japanese. I've seen it straight up add swear words and exclamation points to sentences that utterly had none and had no such intent etc.
>>107256029yeah, it's a perfect storm of being very young, having shit parents and being socially retarded to the core due to said parents, always assuming everyone thinks of her as weird which then becomes the self-fulfilling prophecy. Management "helped" by telling all the other talents she's "mentally unstable, please take care with her thanks byeeee" so there she stands, fans demand her to collab but her coworkers don't want to catch a grenade.
>>107256161Raden found her niche, and put effort into "different things" like her child brainrot shorts.But the reason is raden being a giganerd artsy type, she was a huge gamble hire. (and let's not forget, she's in hiatus now, she's also someone who can easy "ok i marry/become nun in a art temple bye, that's life")Maybe is better to just focus on the "watames" failed hags who can reignite their broken dreams.>>107256287The problem is, how can you be sure they will really work hard and for long?>>107256289Koyori is copycat and follow a clear seasoned formula, she need to stream less and be more natural, but i fear she's just not a interesting person.In the end, what makes hololive popular, is the "anime girl but real" natural roleplay, cover need to start ENFORCE that and the illusion going.
>>107248583
>>107248461Although Marine is no longer my oshi and Coco is gone, I will always be grateful for your friendship with them, little tenshi.I'm going to miss you so much, Kanata, and your incredible voice.
>>107256505>indie>mythic talent>industry plant ironmouse
>>107250321>>107250842>>107251044It's clear none of you watch Ina
>>107256402I mean from what she was saying she essentially implied that the workload is unexpectedly way too large. it's hard to really know what's real when people like ayame do nothing and don't seem to be compelled to do much more than that. cover seems to give girls all the time off they need basically. although as mentioned the past couple posts here maybe the issue is middle managers sucking and pushing their work down onto others. in which case it's like a gacha roll if you're working with someone competent or not - maybe the girls who have been there since forever have a more chill chain of command in general.
>>107248461Being publicly traded has been a disaster. Every single holo disaster can be traced back to the moment they became public.
>>107248865You cannot be this much of a tourist to not know she's been going deaf for years.
>>107256109I saw in their recruitments for gen 6 they looked for established streamers of minimum one year or singers of more experience etc. I miss when first streams were absolute trashfires like Mr. Koro, but then again before and during 'rona the world was still at least kinda sane. Now nobody has time to watch endless hours of anime girls playing vidya.
>>107256109>Hololive lost the drive from holo x and the popularity.This, they struggled to have new breakthrough stars unlike Nijisanji with Salome and Lunlun
>>107256712salome is a 3view these days. she was the biggest flash in the pan in all vtubing.
>>107248865The whole "NEVER REINCARNATION ALL CLUE WILL BE FAKE" made me thing she going to fucking die, wtf was she thinking ?
>>107249673Yes. Toxic-positives are saying it's because of her disease, but she would have continued until she fully deaf if that was the only problem. By her own words it's as you say.
>>107256142>>107256177Lapsus is more talented than gura, she's the complete package loli kusogaki, she can easy become the very top holo by putting full effort.I can see cover hiring process overlooking the red flags.Maybe with the years she will fully calm down and realize this is the only place she can make big. (she will quit long before but you never know)
>>107256657The transition of Hololive from private to public and its consequences have been a disaster for the company.
>>107249943so fucking dramatic lmaobillionaires be damned humans already live far too long anyway. let the old die and the new thrive
>>107249860oh fuck i get those too
>>107256657>Holocaust>Aloe>Chris
Paying respect to PPT
>>107256799What shade of shitskin are you?
>>107256799https://youtu.be/M-Q9-aGEO7kShe was one of yours LMAO Homobeggars LOST Unichads win AGAIN!
>>107256775>Happened because of Niji ratting them out.>Happened because she couldn't keep her mouth closed and said things Nijifags took the wrong way.>Literally a whore.
>>107256775>HolocaustNot their fault that chinamen have paper for skin. >Aloe and ChrisNot their fault that those two got tangled up in dramaI stopped watching after aqua and A-chan quit. It's clear back then the management and board mandated stricter restriction put too much strain on the talent. Haachama is currently the most obvious one. Kanata's case unavoidable though, she has talked about this since 2020. The rest meanwhile, were very avoidable.
It's normal people retire in this field problem is the new talents are not exactly stepping up to fill their shoes
I hope her the best
I'll miss her.
>>107256884Holocaust was them bending the knee to Capcom, Nintendo etc. and deleting streams involving their games.Not the chink shit.
>>107256917When you sell this Oshi bullshit, you really are shooting yourself in the foot in terms of retaining fans. It does well in the immediate future where those who 'Oshi' someone or maybe a few someones buy massive amounts of merch, but once that talent leaves, the person starts to care less.
>>107250606lmaoyou didnt invest in bitcoin or openai huh
>>107256708Korone was a seasoned vtuber already and had experience doing voice work due to her natural anime voice.But this another main point, hololive core is a web of old friends steamers nepohires of each other, this goes a long way to cement group/interactions.>>107256712Salome was botted to the moon (to the front youtube page making her viral)
How hard is it for hololive not to crush their sick talents under a massive workload. Kanata was the only holo that I TRULY cared about. Seriously wtf
oh no, anyway
>>107256305>Aqua>close to Gurathe closest to her was Okayun if anyone, still unsure if Shion wasn't keyfabe.
>>107256402>>107256623contract conditions most likely play a role too. Something definitely changed since Gen3-5
How the fuck is Korone on the list? Are you guys trolling?
>>107256975she lately started to leech from the duck of all people
>>107256737>>107256177the fuck are you two on about, Lap was tardwrangled into submission and lately has a resurgenceNot at all a FBK-style company lapdog but definitely far away from Menhera.
https://x.com/tanigox/status/1995803388781715602Oh no, everyone is skeptical and angry because Mr. Yagoo has been reusing the word "improve" for every recent graduation. What happened?
>>107256440imagine thinking you know more than an advanced aimaybe you'll beat stockfish 10 one day
this will probably ruin someone's Christmas.
>>107248461Is it really so hard for Cover to hire girls without a foot in the grave already?
>>107256943the average chest size took another hit towards the tiddymonsters today. Personally don't like them flat in general BUT it's nice to have a spectrum so everybody can have someone.
Why can't she just get an office job in cover?
*graduating*
>>107257132not much improvement so far I can tell you that much>>107257169with zero experience? Doubt it.Would also be very bad for her mental seeing all her colleagues succeed in their dreams.
One of biggest, most vocal male haters is gone, company will be better without her
>>107257132tea parties the great filtererif you whineyou are out of hololive
>>107257195kys erb
>kanata>gura>shion>a-chan>rushiathe flatties are leaving at an alarming rate...
>>107249049confirmed that there were whorelos that graduated because of the cocks
>>107257207you're noooooticing too much anon. be careful
>>107257207They should just make all new talent models have giant tits, so they wouldn't leave. Genius.
>>107251162I love graphics such as this. It's like seeing defeated bosses in a video game. Very pleasing to the eye
>>107256348Nah Marine took on most or all of the cost for their duo song Shinkiro with animation and the 3D concert Marine and Gura had to promote the song. All that is extremely expensive and Hololive don't cover personal projects. Marine also showed up for Gura's last Hologra or whatever the proper name is for that show is.You can just put on airs(all talk and no action) if you just wanted to pretend you care about Gura. Apparently that's what happened to Haachama. >>107257009Aqua was Gura's kami oshi so yeah it impacted Gura a lot. Gura brought up Aqua liking Kiara's design dungeon to Ame during EN Reco.
did anyone catch the tweet before deletion?
>>107257256Somehow it worked for Kronii, no one expected her to hold on this long but she's still here.Though Sana and Kaichou show it's not 100%.
>>107249016Bullshit she is 100% reincarnating.
>>107257308Coco was forced out, and Sana shouldn't have joined in the first place. The rule of chest still holds.
>>107256502>In the end, what makes hololive popular, is the "anime girl but real" natural roleplay, cover need to start ENFORCE that and the illusion going.How much of that is currently working? Is there a percentage that could be given?
>>107257308Kronii has still kept in touch with the ex-EN holos. She is apart of SNOT after all and the last one.
Like a cold dagger through my heart. I haven't felt this bad about a graduation since Coco, and that one was largely due to it being the first.
>>107257137shut up indian
>>107257337Current hololive wants to be Suisei factory with dev_is
>>107252277how do you get it? is there a vax for it?
>>107257114Lately what, she's still rotting on valorant and barely streaming.>>107257337Look at the top girls, they do that.Look at the ones struggling, normie tier streamers with clear real life second account.
>>107257308kaichou hold on enough that cover choose to nuked a whole branch instead
>>107257390I think there's more to it, but that's also entirely plausible, so I won't say you're wrong.
>>107256505
Post more erotic kanata pics.
>>107250377I 100% agree when it comes to Roa.Sakuna could have been better, at least, no cat or maid theme.There's nothing wrong with Ruka.
>>107252800still better, make them the money on American servers
>>107257418>Look at the ones struggling, normie tier streamers with clear real life second account.That settles it, only hire anime brain rotted girls, Cover should have not hired real life idols and youtubers, just shut-in female weebs from now on.
>>107257430good picturego to catalog
>>107257308Kronii realized holo is the ONLY way she can make it as a content creator.She submitted/feminized cuz it was this or a normie retail job.Same for calli, the big music people told her "we only want you as a anime girl" and here we are.
>>107257418Noel still make banks despite being literal OF whore while akirose is still struggling after all these years.
>hololive goes public>talents still have to pay for their projectsI'm sorry what the fuck was the money for then???? Le studios??? Kanata had to manage the distribution for Trigger by herself because management wouldnt do it? What the fuck is the management for then? Is their job to fucking tweet when holomems get sick? I'm so tired
>>107257412nobody knows
>>107253973those are EN
>ANOTHER TOP 10 SUPAS QUEEN GRADUATEDYagoo - "Fuck them bitches, MOVE MORE FUNDS TO HOLOEARTH, NOW!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=outGef3ikTEGET IN HEREBIG RRATTENING
>>107250377Saba fan here. I didn't care about the Cat's design at first but it grew for me with the smug face. The others are good. Rei-chan is less iconic but still an upgrade.
>>107257543They said they want to move away from otaku crowd into more mainstream audience after Regloss
>>107249140Going public always kills the spark. Always.
>>107254107Meh. This was the really only notable event. Not really that bad.
>>107257169She most likely just wants to retire without worries. Being part of the cover staff is kind of like being a surgeon performing a surgery on its own family.
>>107257639>They said they want to move away from otaku crowd into more mainstream audience after ReglossAnd how many of the (top) holos agreed to this?
>>10725761099% of tech CEOs give up on the metaverse just before making 5 trillion dollars
>>107257611genuinely kill yourself
>>107254146wasnt that show like 16 years ago unironically?
>>107257543Real idols can work but are a gamble.Like, vivi may be a big normie but got a big determination and is putting a real effort to become a good streamer and a good holo, she understand the job.Riona is not that different, but really fucked up early.Ao was also very talented (they really did her dirt with that shitty avatar) but bipolar crazy.>>107257573Noel wants to be more than just tits, that's her big drive.
>>107257587We have known the entire industry is mismanaged for years. It makes 0 sense that the talents have to spend any amount of time / effort / money on stuff that is not their maximum value add (i.e., streaming / performing). Even just small things like making their own thumbnails is a huge waste of money, when one or two full time workers could crank out high quality thumbnails for the entire brand.
>>107257685All of them, it's both the goal for idols and entertainers alike. The ones who don't will tailor their content to pander to their selected crowd and live in their bubble.
>>107257157Why not? Helping terminally ill girls is good for karma. Might offset the soulless corpo shit some of the Holo higher up has done
Why are all the holos acting shocked on twitter? Did they not know? Wtf is going on at HQ??
>>107257698Interviewer: do you want the 8% of funds go to metaverse?Yagoo: double it and give it to the next homo
>>107250362She might be as a background cast
>>107257929this but it's around 15% actually
>>107257904Just because they work at the same company, means they know about everyone, NEET. if the rrats are to be believed, holos have now become full corpo wagies instead of second school life and talents have drifted away from each other to pursue their corpo quota and milestone. They already have their own cliques while kanata's own clique have mostly quit or got fired.
>>107257654But the money Anon! Think about the money!
