I miss her. The real her.
>>107371256When I change clothes I become someone else
>>107371256
>>107371426a little chubbier than I expected
>>107371256>>107371426Common /lig/gger L
>>107371256>shondo affiliateAND DROPPED
>>107371256that's not the real her tho, this is
>>107371426Those are some big hands.
>>107371256tell me what she was like. the her before she was became a stranger to you.
>>107371256You never liked her. You only liked the easy attention you were getting. Now that she's moving up and leaving you behind, you're bitter you're no longer special.
>>107371256I like this version of her the most. My current and most beloved wife.
>>107371256I only found out about her when I typed onions in the Discord GIF section and she popped up
>>107371256God this model was so pretty
>>107371461Those hands are rail thin what the fuck are you talking about
1/10 weak ass shit bait. Shes the same person if not better. Even the the blue Bean was cute, CC´s Modell stands out from all the other 1000 almost same looking Chubas.
>>107377688>>107385280the CC rig is dogshit compared to Soya >>107371426
>>107385918cant argue with that but it didnt change the fact that its still the same person if not better. The riging may be dogwater but the Model still is still better than 90 of whats out there. We still can hope that her base modell gets the Gura treatment and gets a rigging upgrade in the future or maybe she does it herself.
>>107371461The hell? How are those hands "chubbier"?
>>107385918>Cover: This person's rigging is really well done. It's much better than anything we have. Oh she did it herself as well? Impressive. Let's bring her into the company and instead of letting her do her thing, let's make her use our shitty rigging. That's the most logical thing to do.
>>107388226>what is standard>what is cohesionAlso she rigged her newyear outfit
https://files.catbox.moe/4om98z.jpg
>>107389520source for that?
>>107389953That's AI. Kind of a messy output too, check out her hands.
>>107388226they pay her to collect simpbux not to rig models
>>107371373NTA but model aside, it's the environment that makes a differenceno more public interaction with the barbies, no more readable chat, no more viewer minigames no more throwing her out the window
>>107389520This would be so hot if it wasn't AI slopWhy is there so little art of the girls getting fucked by their mascots?
>>107372723Why did she grab her by the pussy?
plin plin plon
>>107390718Vtubers getting fucked by their old/new mascots is an untapped market
>>107390895I don't know whether it'd be hotter to be fucked by your old fans, your current fans, or the new ones in this case. If it's the new ones you could go with the corruption angle. The robots slowly mechanize her through fluid intake or something.
>>107371256same
>>107390895saplings fucking Nimi...
>>107390868Gwyn...
>>107390895Love to see takos crawling on ina's naked.body
>>107372066It explains why she was grabbing gigi loli/teen pussy
>>107390868plin plin plon
>>107388226Cover: hey instead of paying someone to do this work why don't we get the talents to do it?Also cover: why are our talents all graduating complaining about having a shit ton of unpaid work foisted upon them ?
>>107371256Imagine a ceci lillyhops collab
>>107388226same with the Yuniihothe two of them could easily make the best vtuber models ever, but cover won't let them.
I'm fine with Hololive designs but man they really need to step up their rigging game. Going from any Hololive model rig to something like Laimu is day and night.>>107388226It's weird indeed but not surprising since japanese corporations are notoriously obtuse. I also assume it's something the talents considered before joining, if Raora wanted to be a mama and not just make some occasional art she wouldn't have joined Hololive.
>>107371256>/wvt/ vtuberIn the /trash/ where it belongs
>>107390032and her share of the simp bucks is sufficiently large that she obviously no longer cares where they come fromlig bros there's no going back, she's not gonna put effort into streams unless her paycheck is in danger, which will not happen under hololive banner, but simultaneously she's way too big of a rockstar now to go back panhandling on twitch
>>107389520This is just Cecilia with blue hair and with an actual human body
>>107371256they're both the "real her".
>>107394240What
Green Cecilia = Vtuber/CharacterBlue Cecelia = Streamer with anime avatarLearn the difference, newfags
>>107385918No one who matters cares about rigging
>>107395558>Streamer with anime avatarWait, wasn't she hard of the kayfabe, or did I just hallucinate comments that said that? How come some people in /vt/ prefer a fleshie with an anime avatar instead of an actual vtuber? Maximum retardness I guess.
>>107395558sorry man im not watching hololive anymore, good luck though.
>>107388719not completly. She only rigged the Face and Hair segment of the Body. Anything else is still rigged by Cover rigger.
Why didn't Shondo threaten Hololive like she did to Phase?
>>107395787Yes she's always been great with kayfabe and lore autism, probably one of the reasons why Cover hired her
>>107395626sure thing, mr. less than 0.6%
>>107397404wtf that's cute
>>107389520Someone finally did it?
>>107397404fat arms tho
>>107371256she's dead and buried beanbro. it's time to move on. she will never come back
>>107377496Exactly the same, except she interacted with her indie friends publicly. She's not the type to change herself. In fact, if you go back and watch her indie streams and compare them to her Holo ones, you wouldn't be able to tell any difference.
>>107383315>onions
>>107393186It would be extremely cute
>>107394016you mean in Hololive, where you'll watch them and love them now because they have a blue dorito next to their name
>>107398994Take your meds.
>>107398994okay Mr. Skellington
>>107377376big enough to get a firm grip on me, too big for you
I miss her too but you have to let go.
>>107400074hehehe
>>107397404roommates cosplaying their vchuuba models is so fucking peak
>>107399983>if you go back and watch her indie streams and compare them to her Holo ones, you wouldn't be able to tell any difference.Laughably wrong.
>>107400631Nah, you're retarded, that anon is completely correct.
>>107397493mindbroken.
>>107393186https://www.twitch.tv/lilyhops/clip/PeppyElegantMooseKlappa
>>107400937no gigino care
>>107400631yeh shes better now
>>107401049Whats going on?
I wonder if she's happier now...
>>107400581>reddit codeword lingoJust say talent like a normal person.
>>107402493way more attention, of course she is
>>107402493This entire year you can tell she's more stressed.
>>107402014"She" jumped and the voice changer didn't catch it for a second. She's a dude and so is Kumo too in case you wonder why they've been so pally over the last year.
>>107390868Looks like the gears were in motion after all
>>107390868>can i get a hellyo
>>107400526>ruin the feelings with this lesbian kissing garbage templateyou fuckers would just not stop, would you
>>107403348Cry?
>>107403513>i have to live with shitting dicknipple coomerbrained LLM furry robotscan't cry. just very disappointed in you
>>107403288Okay, and?
>>107403664Oh know! Let me show you all the fucks I have to give!
>>107400098Never watched her don't plan to. Seethe harder remember the stain never leaves you /wvt/ garbage.
>>107403288Isn't there stronger proof?
>>107371256Literally and unironically WHO ???
>>107399983She didn't really change, but her content did. It used to feel a lot more intimate, but that's not due to her changing, it's due to her audience becoming massive.
>>107385918Better rigging never did , never does and never will make your twitch whores a better VTuber than those in the walled garden
>>107388226Never understood the rigging argument. Are you here to just watch the model or what they're actually doing.
>>107407308She changed together with her content, and if you don't see it I can't help you.
>>107401049I can imagine a loli laying an egg to this
>>107407420>>107407734I dont understand how can anyone hold an anti-good-rigging position. You understand the model is a fundamental aspect of what a vtuber is, and so you should understand that improvements in the very thing that which qualifies something as a vtuber would be good, correct?like fuck man, funny anime girl faces are good. Let them be responsive and shit
>>107407420or those outside the garden, for that matter.
>>107408360it's just very low on the list of what makes a good streamer. (lower than the design.)
>>107407734boobs go boing, views go up>>107408360Cover has gone on record saying they wanted the models to be more uniform, including riggingeverything will bed done on lowest common denominator so that nobody will stand out from the crowd
>>107407734We watch vtubers, nigger.
>>107371256liggers are crabs
>>107407902Tell us more anon, do you dislike the way she is now?
>>107409744if you want great animation, you could watch a show.
>>107371256you never watched her, fake fan
I only liked soya because I have a giantess fetish
>>107413996I feel like Ceci likes to ZOOOOOOM in so her face fills the freaking screen and I always wondered if that was low key a giantess sort of thing. She ends up looking gigantic.
>>107410549If you didn't care about animation, you'd read a VN
>>107390668>no more public interaction with the barbiesHow is this a problem? They can still interact off stream unless you only like her because she collabed with whoever your oshi is and in Hololive she can interact with Hololive talents, meet with great people like Sora.
>>107371256>>107371426>>107413996>>107415466What's the point of being a giantess vtuber if you don't actually do anything with it, all the webms she just looks like a normal sized person. She could easily lean into it with the handcams by using tiny bowls and spoons and stuff but she doesn't even do that.
>>107409321kind of agree. Kind of disagree
>>107371461What
>>107420439She already did do that. No point in repeating the bit.
>>107422011If you're gonna make it a part of your character it's something you should stick with, otherwise why even be a giantess, just say you're a forest spirit or some shit.
>>107401049...ew. Lilyhopps is a dude pretending vto be a little girl with a voice changer? That's fucking gross
>>107423039Even if that were to be so i really like Lilyhops they're very sweet and uplifting
>>107420694>>107409321>>107408360It's more like rigging quickly reaches diminishing returns. Once it's good enough, it's good enough.
Anyone who says she’s the same now is just signalling that they’ve at most only watched a couple of her archives.Before Hololive she was the very definition of matured authenticity.Now she acts like a loud, brash, crude zoomer who’s endlessly tired. >Rigging>Design>Personality>ContentEverything was better.
>>107425852can you give us a few scenes as an example?
>>107425334Really sweet when he does that ear licking asmr that pedos fap to
Liggers are so pathetic. The only group who actively roots against their oshi's dreams of success and making it.
>>107425852Sounds like you don't like her true self, aka, how she is as CC. She's comfortable with her audience enough to do and act however she pleases, not as this "matured authenticity" shit you're projecting onto her. You liggers are truly pathetic. I'm glad she's found a place and group of friends where she can be truly happy, away from you and the indie shitters
>>107426956This is cope
>>107426047I don't mark down every moment, no. Feel free to watch her, it shouldn't take long until you find her hating on something that she does these days.>>107426956I don't blame you for not knowing any better, she barely shares anything with the otomos.
>>107427002>>107427053>I know her TRUE self. I'm a TRUE fan of her. You don't know any better, poor otomo. I'm SPECIALSorry, but you just sound like a huge faggot. Thats all I'm getting from your posts ligger. CC is infinitely better than soya, you just can't accept you're a nobody now and she's in a much better spot in her life
>>107427300That's nice, otomo.
>>107427457stop looking at me like that
>>107427300>CC is infinitely better than soyaYou never watched Soya, you only watched CC and you're a defensive Holodrone
>>107427906>holodroneMask came off pretty quickly
>>107427906If Soya had been better than CC, she'd have had better numbers
>>107388226>>107390032>>107393785Cover has to protect their propertiary program and riggings. Without it the entire corpo collapse. Fagoo built it as Tech demo company hence why the retard investment into holoearth.It's basically monkeys paw scenario. Hololive grew big but at this cost.
>>107427978>If Soya had been better than CC, she'd have had better numbers>I'm a Holodrone and I don't believe in brand powerIrony. You niggas are still mad because Connor and Joey were right yet you can't refute the proof.
>>107427978Hololive gives numbers to even the worst vtubers
Liggers are really just the hipsters of vtubing.
>>107428105Brand power *is* what makes CC better. There are enough indies that pull Holo numbers and Soya was never one of them>>107428110Hololive makes them better
jerking off to soya > jerking off to ceci
>>107371256THIS is the real her >>107371426And yes, I miss her too. I would check her from time to time vut never became a regular since she would drop games midstory and that really angered my brain
>>107428286What the fuck are you doing complaining about "hipsters"? Are you serious? Holobronies are like people who only watch Marvel movies and then look down on people for not watching Marvel movies.
>>107371256great riggingawful model
>>107385918design is infinitely worse though. so it evens out
The German giantess is not for sexualizing.
>>107429135explain this then
>>107371256She died and her memory data is placed in a cute automaton body
>>107429275Next you'll say Otomos are being piloted by beans
>>107429082how? CC doesn't even have proper toes
>>107430581Are you really talking shit about doll joints? Get off my board.
I wouldn't say real, but welcome to the club of missing old content.They have less VN content on their new channel than they did their old, and it's been around 2.5x longer. Surprised there isn't more of some fags talking about how people only used to watch her old form for attention, happens any time you bring up something they used to do/used to do more frequently.
Soya would actually hate OP because they're just a superficial fan who truly doesn't care for the person behind the avatar. If they did, they wouldn't have made this dogshit thread.Instead, OP is equivalent to those insufferable hipster faggots that act elite because they liked something before it became popular. You're not special. You never were and still aren't. Soya doesn't know who you are. In fact, Soya is dead and never coming back because her new life is superior in every way. Cope more liggerbeggar
>>107371256She'll be back, no worries there
>>107428286truth nuke
>>107428110Whoa, anon here implying Soya/CC is one of the worst vtubers. Your response, Otomos?
>>107428286I mean yeah, but it's literally true that we watched them before they were cool
She's literally happier than ever and won't ever graduate Liggers never knew the real Soya she was super guarded then, she's far more open with Otomos
I wouldn't say I miss her because I like Cecilia's model too and I discovered her only after she debuted for Hololive, and her content and way to entertain is not that different from her PL, but I like her thighs and the rigging is way better.
>>107371256I miss her
>>107371426Paid actor
>>107403779Norway
>>107428293Brand power is what CC makes lazy. She doesn't need to put in effort/streaming hours to make money anymore.
>>107438474right now she's literally streaming while traveling with a cursed setup. Sounds like too much effort for a lazy streamer
>>107371256u never watched her anyway u Clown. Just made a shitthread for no reason. Sadly another faggot OP.
>>107438474>ESL who can't even learn the language is calling people lazyLol.
>>107432046OP never watched Soya, retard. It's a basic-bitch anti trying to stir shit with easy bait.
>>107438474>she doesnt need to put in effort to make money anymore.And yet she does it with litteraly every stream. Doesnt matter if gaming or anything else. U are just retarded.
>>107439198So did she stream 300 days in a year? How many games she left unfinished?
>>107371256no idea who this is but that's a much nicer model than any corpos have. your pain is valid.
>>107439353well thats a you problem then. She said multiple times that this is her Dreamjob and if it means less streams for us so she can do the Dancing / Music Videos and whatnot i am totally fine with that. + she obviously doesnt has any pressure anymore in terms of Money and thats a huge relieve for her. That she doesnt finish every game and plays so many (in my oppinion) dogshit games is something i dont like aswell but i can tolerate it.
>>107440045Liggers can't accept this is every vtuber's dream job
>>107438580It's why i'm not watching her right now. If she finishes E33 i will watch her VOD but i'm not getting cucked again.
>>107438580for such a "terrible" setup there is barely any difference. Atleast for the viewer. The OBS Error isnt the first time and happend at her Home aswell so i dont blame it on traveling.
>>107371461based
>>107371256cute did she rig this herself
>>107440045>this is her Dreamjob and if it means less streams for us so she can do the Dancing / Music VideosIt was such a heckin dreamjob she never talked about wanting to dance or be an idol, you're right.
>>107440665Bro she had to keep it on the downlow or she'd never get the job. Holo don't want superfans as employees they want pragmatic people who'd treat it like a job.
>>107440755Yeah, you mean like FWMC or Kiara.Totally weren't fans before to the point that they talked about wanting to be in Holo, and one of them even cosplaying JP members before getting inWhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>107413838I only watch Holos
>>107431796I dont watch them even as holo
>>107440665Gotta say, after a couple of years of watching her she never talked much about holo if at all as far as I remember.
>>107440665erm ok so? u just dont want to be reasonable here and just shit on the floor and smear it on every wall for no reason. If she wouldnt be an Idol or do dancing n stuff she wouldnt sign up for it in the first place. This isnt something new or totally out of nowhere that u have to dance / sing / attend concerts / take care out your audience / be creative and have some sort of vision what u wanna do with ur avatar and kayfabe. She knew exactly what she signed up to and so far she doesnt disappoint in the slightest. Well except the huge pile of unfinished games.
you and the seven others that watched her
Bro, look at her old numbers.She probably would have graduated anyway with or without hololive, people say she was miserable as fuck before.
>>107441177The money for the talent is great. It means more security. What ends up happening is that old fans expect more of the same or very similar content in both type and output, and in most cases one or both of those take a real hit which makes some fans go sour after the honeymoon period. I'm here for entertainment, I want them to make a decent living out of this job so they can continue to do it for a while and continue to entertain me in the way they were. When they flip, I just stop supporting financially and stop tuning in if it's really bad.
>>107441154>She knew exactly what she signed up toIf you watched her you'd know she never knew what she was signing up for.
>>107441333Bro she would have found out during the interview process, they'd have told her and shit. If she really didn't want it she could have dropped out at any point.
>>107441333yes i watched her before and since debut of CC. Pls dont try to lecture me. All the shit u wrote tells me u just baiting for whatever reason. And if you dont u clearly have no idea what u talking about.
>>107441457makes sense, this place is for retards acting like they know shit just to annoy you
>>107371256this model needed way more porn, the short shorts, the see through shirt, tights, so fucking sex
>>107441567It's never too late for more porn.
>>107441521Far too often do people around here assume everyone else is watching because they want attention from women. More often than not the complaints I see for reincarnation into Holo is that their old content that was enjoyed often takes a back seat to the things they're required to do by Cover or aren't allowed to do because of Cover.
>>107371461The fuck you mean chubby those were perfectly normal
>>107403324just a week away
>>107431796i was enjoying the f/sn playthrough
>>107442398Right, and they basically said they would never actually play through it on stream, teased the idea of doing a once a month members stream of it (which would have kept me membered) and then continuously say "We really want to play more sometime!" and never actually do. That's kinda my point.
>>107440045End of the story is bitch got lazy and the jps are still grinding hard everyday.
Hololive are NTRchads.She's happier with us now than she ever was with you little ligger.
>>107442528Why do i have the feeling that a 250 kg MeatCanyon wrote this post who cant wipe his ass properly anymore.
>>107442960because you're right and he's projecting
>>107441822wow! This is going great! :D
>>107441166it was around two hundred actually
>>107443939and just above 1200 during her graduation iirc, right ?
>>107441457The only reason any of the beans would defend the current state of things is if they were one of the slow ones who invested into this temporary Hololive gig.You should know that she actively never wanted to be an idol, and is just doing it either as a side to boost herself, or because it’s expected while she’s there.
>>107441567She never gave a high res version of the design sheet right?
>>107447781this is all we got afaik https://mega.nz/folder/B7F0WKCR#RGRK4CLutHL7epkc2Rbj_A/folder/Jv8lCYzY
>>107371256The blue hair and the orange eyes does it for me. She looks so fucking cute wtf.
>>107446089>temporarykeklmaorofllolpffffft
>>107448118>nothing from the other outfitdamn
basedasex
>>107371256Who
>>107420439>What's the point of being a giantess vtuber if you don't actually do anything with it, all the webms she just looks like a normal sized person. She could easily lean into it with the handcams by using tiny bowls and spoons and stuff but she doesn't even do that.Bro she was building a HOUSE her hands were so much bigger than it
>>107371461t. north korean
>>107442960that's almost 3 times my weight. EU isn't Burgersized
CC is lazy these days. The only time she puts effort into anything is some nerdy gimmick for (one) short stream or a shitpost. Literally an Ame replacement. She maintains this weird distance with otomos exactly like Fauna did with Saplings. Not as bad but it’s definitely there and look how Fauna turned out. Just saying…
this thread is still up
>>107459095They only care if it's Mori. Even Gura and Fauna don't have any protection anymore after they left the cult.
>>107459375>can't talk about a VTuber on a VTuber board.
>>107459846Talking about vtubers is fine. People just don't like when you post dox and go unpunished.
Just watched another Mori thread vanish after I made that post LMAO I'm a genius
>>107384986The SEAmonkey hasn't been able to afford much pagpag recently
>>107425637And Cover has yet to reach "good enough"There are indie models from 2022 with better rigs than Justice.
I miss Sonya Ponya
>>107403348>lesbian
>>107401049I'm disappointed, but the Soya Lily DS3 collab is still very cute and I watch it regularly.
>>107468388Out of all Archives why is one of her favorite Game missing -_- We will never see her play Chrono Trigger again.
>>107466253immergold is good
>>107470559not good enough
>>107470559The green looks off when paired with the blonde hair
>>107471514blue and gold is a much better combination
i will now watch my Oshi who is not lazy and very cute on the Telly while eating some Chili con Charne. Keep seeting Clowns. Green is King.
>>107475352Riveting stream so far. So quirky of them.
>>107473943I miss those outfit editsShe got so much mileage out of a single outfit back then
>>107468388I honestly only knew of Soya because I saw her in a few randim Lily streams I watched. Wasn't an avid fan of Lily, but they collabed enough that she showed up a few times in my sparce watching.
>>107371256The fake her is fine too
>>107406118nah this one clip is all that obsessed schizo has
Why are there no VODs for her
