Grimmi confirms that she backed out of Hololive and that she was the 5th member of Justice.https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2637506449?t=05h33m14sShe also confirms that she backed out because someone from Vshojo convinced her to quit and was talking tons of shit - not the owner of Vshojo but the guy who was confirmed to be spreading rumors about Hololive, Mowtendoo. She also says that she feels bad because now she's not sure any of what he said was true after he was outed for spreading shit.She also confirms that she can show proof if she has to
Saved just in caseIt's funny how that guy is still allowed to walk around in one piece.
>>107428523Well atleast this confirms she wasnt going to nijisanji. Well she is good being indie than being in holo. She is not meant for the idol stuff.
>>107428523Still funny how Mowtendoo actually tried to pull the oblivious employee who had no idea what was going on and tried to single out Gunrun. Who needs enemies when you have friends like that.
>>107428523>random twitch 3view political react streamer liesstrange
>>107428523holy kek someone actually fell for the meme. Didn't vt meme on some vee sheeptuber for doing this? Imagine throwing away your golden ticket for absolute shit.
>>107429354Grimmi. A random. And Political reacts. What?
>>107429414nta but that has kinda become her content this year
>>107429438Damn. So her voicing porn animations didn't work. Quit that for streaming. That didn't work out as she intended so now she is doing slop politics react?For fucks sake.
>>107429354
>>107428523Never heard of her
>>107428523literally who?
>>107428523Is this the only who lost her best friend to phase connect and HoloLive?
>>107428523holy shit vshojo might actually be based for keeping the trash out of holo
>>107429675If she ever debuted as a holo she would be the greatest vtuber ever and you would have to be a schizo to dislike her for who she really is.
>>107428523holy shit, holofags should thank vshojo for keeping her out of hololive.
>>107429438>>107429515WTF are you guys talking about?
>>107428523Good! Keeping this two faced toxic positivity cunt out of Holo is the one good thing MTD has done. Fuck you Grimmi.
>>107429780ok bro actually you are right if she debuted as a holo she would be the greatest vtuber ever and i would be a schizo for disliking her
>>107429780Truth nuke. Only male collabing as a Holo would have made any of them dislike her.
>>107428595>It's funny how that guy is still allowed to walk around in one piece.Is he friends with the manga's author?
>>107429938>Only male collabing as a Holo would have made any of them dislike her.Wrong. You get called a schizo for not liking any of the male collabers too. There's not a single hololive member you are actually allowed to dislike.
She's incredibly retarded for believe this stuff and making decisions based on it without confirming them. Now she's obviously coping about it.This reinforce my belief that vshojo has been trying to sabotage hololive for a while. I estimate that the girls are confirmed to be in about 6-7 months before the debut, since Shiori was talking about quitting vtubing whole together in early december 2022.Justice debuted in june 2024, which means that the conversation between her and Mow happened before january 2024, at very least. At the same time, I question the chronology of the events. Ame affiliated in september 2024, which is 8 months after the latest possible moment Mow talked to Grimmi. What kind of dark rumours could have been there? I could understand if it was about Omega and IRyS, but dunno, I am a bit confused here.
>>107428523lmao I remember when some delusional holodrones insisted that it had to be Niji because it happened during the Selen incident even though she confirmed multiple times it wasn't Niji.
>>107430028True, hololive is love, hololive is life and Cover is an all merciful God.You can actively hate only those who left the holy garden
>>107428523biggest bullet dodged in holohistory
>>107430060Grimmi even posted a graduation announcement in early february, and then ungraduated like a week later, the talk most likely happened between these events. This checks out because Basedapoya and Yuniiho also posted their announcements the same week.
>>107428523Grimmi would never be offered a slot in Hololive. Myth busted.
>>107429354You don't know what any of those words mean, do you? You just like to show up and retard spread for everyone in the thread, huh?
>>107430060May be related to whatever went wrong with Gura she had one foot out the door for years. All of holoen was in a pretty bad state for a while prior to advent joining.
I always knew the cope of >It's only 4 members!!!was stupid af, what I wonder is what would've been grimmi's model that now has been scrapped out of existanceAnd well, her saying she's happy where she is... yeah with that ccv she doesn't need Hololive at all
Is this the aero_buddy girl?
>>107430146So this was about 4 months before the debut. By then they were going to start working on the models, probably already did. Surely she could have contacted whoever these people were and ask if it was true?
So that faggot mtd convinced grimmi to pull out of hololive -which would have been the best thing to happen in the history of humanity- all the while she was getting beyond scammed by weinstein?How do you live with this information? how do you keep going knowing we're surrounding with the most vile lowest subhumanoid trash relentlessly ruining everything that matters?
>>107430335>>107429546that's how
>>107430335It wasn't completely baseless. The 2 Holomem he talked about did graduate.
>>107428523imagine listening to some retarded faggot who's in competition with hololive instead of following your dreams. what a fucking loser. she deserved to lose her opportunity and i hope she never gets it again
>>107428523So she not only believed some guy's allegations about a company unrelated to him, but said guy works for one of the direct competitors of said company. And she just ate it all up? Women are retarded.
>>107430075putting aside whether what she's saying is true or not, (and i doubt it's true since she seems like a generic twitch grifter), who would be dumb enough to turn down hololive? even if you only stay a couple of years it's still a huge boost to literally any vtuber.
>>107428523a girl with half of her brain eaten by cancer was talked out of a big opportunity by a retard? color me surprised
>>107428523that dude literally saved hololive from a walking nukeabsolute hero
>>107430394>>107430374Here's my 2 cents about this>Ironmouse and Mori are close>both are women>women LOVE gossip>Mori talks about the graduations and shit to Ironmouse because she's told beforehand>Ironmouse is also a woman>She says she's close with CEO and gaytendo 64>she gossips>mowtendo now has confidentaial info to fuck hololive up>sabotages people>the Holo graduation happens and it reinforces his liesAt the time his lies were believable and his sources reliable so anyone could've listened to him
>>107428523AHAHAHAHA WHAT A RETARD. LITERALLY EVERY DESCION THIS STUPID RETARDED WOMAN MAKING IS RETARDED. HOOOOOOOOOOOOLY!
>>107430407She got enough boost by just pretending to join and without having to suck up to jp managers calling her in the middle of the night. She's actually a genius.
>>107430263perhaps, Hololive doesn't need her at all either, so its a story with a good ending all around isn't it? Rather its a failure of the scouts to even choose her, she's not even interested in idol stuff.
>>107428523>>107428595>>107429306>>107430143so many of (you) called me a liar for saying she backed out of holoI'm owed an apology.
>>107430496Link me my post where I did that?
>>107430485Most weren't until they got a taste of it, I believe with positive reinforcement and friends who are not actually trying to put you down she could've had a nice japan arc,
Actually I'm reading she may have been replaced by gigi? If that's the case then yea Its a really good thing she backed out.
>>107430485Why did she apply to Hololive if she isn't interested in idol activities, is she perhaps retarded?
Ok I checked some dates---announcement-graduationCC 24/02 --> 10/03Raora 12/02 --> 10/03ERB ? --> before the 14th of marchGG 03/03 --> 10/03Grimmi announced her graduation the 5/02, with date the 3rd. Ungraduates herself the 13th.Maybe GG replaced Grimmi?But it is strange how Grimmi's graduation was set one week before the others. All the 4 channels were created on the same day so this doesn't help.
>>107430496It was clear as day for anybody who isn't a retarded holodrone.I mean she posted THIS after Fauna's graduation was announced, how braindead do you need to be to still be in denial after that?
>>107430530$$$ the fauna process.
>>107430526Wait, who said that? I am >>107430536 and never read that before
>>107430485Half of HoloEN is not interested in idol stuff, so she would've fit right in.
>>107428523Is she the hot sauce girl?
>>107430579sure, but the question is, all things consider of course, would you like her to be in holoEN?
>>107428523>Not the owner of Vshojo but the secondary dudeThat's not MowTenDoo, that's Apek.MTD's name was hilariously missing from every single official paper about Vshojo, so he was telling the truth when he said he wasn't given a real position in the company.I'm now wondering, why does every single thing that was actually apek's fault get pinned on MTD? Is he himself still doing this, or is it just Mel's simps trying to bury the leads so nobody tries to dig into him again?
>>107428523Kek she regretted it.
>>107430536Gigi was debuting her 3D model on her PL on february 18, and then 2 weeks later she randomly announced her graduation. She could have been a last minute replacement for Grimmi.
Chotto a moment. I found this post on the archive, the 20th of november>>gigi confirmed that justice members were confirmed when they announced the fes (nov 2023)Either grimmi is lying, gg is lying, or grimmi graduation and then coming back was not related to justice?
>>107428523Nah, this is all on Iris/Grimmi herself being a spineless coward. Everything she gets near to goes to shit.Back when she was still doing VA jobs for porn animations, like 6 years back, she got the voice of Fortune for Studiofow's Subverse. The entire project almost went to shit due to her which is why Subverse had this weird release. Fortune had no scenes at initial release cause she ghosted Fow after Tim Pool got involved over the rights of the name for "Subverse". Girl legit believed the project was done for so why bother do any work when a lawsuit is coming and the studio may shut down the project anyway? Easier to run off and pretend she had nothing to do with an incoming clusterfuck. Hence shortly afterwards, she quit the VA gigs, changed her name to bury that shit. It wasnt for streaming and just starting new. Fow could go on to release it but because of this cunt, the game couldn't release fully as all the Fortune scenes were missing and unvoiced. They couldnt delay it either as it was also crowdfunded and would go back on the promised date of release. The very moment Grimmi see's any slight hindrance, she loses the plot and goes absolute menhera. She will ghost you, she will not take any responsibility, any slight issue and she just runs, screw your project, she quits and runs. Now she has a lovely following while playing up positivity and voice of reason.Mow still a bastard but good riddance she didn't get into Holo cause even the smallest hint of a problem in her sight this chick will run off scared and throw you under the bus.
>>107428523She won't show proof because none of her friends would ever ask her to and she has no reason to reply to any given random that does.
>>107430482She didn't really get much of a boost. Joining then quitting after a year would have made a lot more sense than bailing.
Methinks she's just so fucking stupid she believed all the rumours the vhosjo guy told her and backed off. She now regrets it and is telling herself and her audience to cope:>w-well, look two of the girls graduated (one affiliated but oh well) it was a justified decision I wasn't wrong back then!
>>107430606VS nothing? Sure, why not. There's a chance she would have been good. if you'd asked me before Justice if I wanted Niji loving fujo from V4Mirai, a twitch coombaiter, and a Shondo orbiter I'd have probably been pretty meh about it, but they worked out.
>>107430846I think based on the timeline it was Gura/Fauna not Ame she's talking about.
>>107428523>spreading shiton my face and mouth
>>107430802She tripled her CCV without having to do anything with Hololive. That's a big boost if you ask me.
>>107430802She basically doubled her viewership in a week without essentially doing anything.Why don't more indies just lie about graduating and then come back a week later? Seems like an easy cheatcode to get more viewers.
>>107430728What is actually going on here is here flip flopping again.Mow probably didn't have to say much for her to run off again but now that Mow is the evil one, she can just play the victim instead of running away again. First it was Holo being, the issue and now its Mow. No, its her being spineless and putting her head into the ground over any small issue.And I know you are here, Iris cause you are so insecure about maintaining your good little girl image that you check these sites. Get it together bitch!
>>107430728i mean the fuck everybody except to happen from a girl who was raised in a cult
>>107430919>MowIt's apek though
>>107430950Same thing. Apek then. Just a different person talking to her.
Didn't she "predict" Kanata's graduation?
>>107430975Yes. She's very well connected and knows more than anyone even inside of hololive.
>>107430975I don't know about that, but I can tell you that there's dozens of schizos in /vt/ that could 'predict' Kanata's graduation.What could this bitch possibly know information that even most members of holo JP didn't know.
>>107431029>most members of holo JP didn't know.Literally not a single one of them knew, except the one that's graduating.
>>107430975Yeah, I am sure Grimmi knew about a JP graduation that even JP holos didn't know about. Probably just said something insignificant about her illness that is turned into a prediction.
>>107431073JP Holos. Sure.One person coming to mind though who could have known long before is Kson.And Ksons connections to EN are well known.
>>107430975yes shes also good at making shit up too
>>107431099So kson is the notorious hololive information leaker?
>>107431126Nah. But her and Kanata are close and Kson is known to not watch her mouth.
>>107431160You know what, I totally believe that kson has told every single one of her EN vtuber friends "Amane Kanata is graduating" but none of the JP ones.
The thing you need to understand about Grimmi is that she's legit brain damaged, and I dont mean that in a derogatory way
>>107428523she wouldve had to sing and dance and that wouldve been as awkward as when fauna did it. at the end of the day its up to her to weigh the pros and cons so why should i give a fuck about what he said or she said. not gonna fall for any of her psyops in fact when the time comes ill make sure shes the first i cannibalize.
Aww that's sad. I've watched a couple of her streams here and there and she always seemed pretty genuine and nice.
>>107428523so she is a huge idiot. good to know.
>>107430662CC also debuted her new outfit very shortly before graduation so that's not really any indicator.
Wasn't she the one who was also trying to gain brownie points from the Sinder apology and people called her out on it?What was it?"It's understandable how you cannot trust people while being insecure. You did the right thing even if people wont agree with you. You and your friends deserve healing".Something like that.
>>107430710It makes perfect sense though. Basically Grimmi knew she was in Hololive already back in nov23.She went forward with all the prep just like the other 4 girls and even got as far as announcing her graduation.THEN she backs out. Pretty much last minute.
>>107431735No. Grimmi is just full of shit and is baiting with "I can prove it" to get attention knowing full well she can't deliver because she's made it up.If she had any inclination or ability to prove it, she would have done so immediately. This is all just attention-whoring behaviour.
>>107431831There's no way you are still coping about this kek
>>107428523She will delete this vod>>107430728The amount of baggage she has is unbelievable but hololive background checks are horrible or they dont care
>>107428523>Be mowtendo>Try to destroy Hololive >Actually save it by preventing them from hiring a second NimiKEK Vshojo employees really were BEYOND incompetent
>>107431883>I believe grifter's empty claims and you should be just as retarded as me!No.
>>107431917Of course she will delete it, she just wants people to get interested in her lies and then back out before she has to back them up.
grim
>>107430728wasn't subverse the space cuck game
>>107430530She didn't want to go to Niji because "she didn't wanna be around guys constantly"
>>107432071for you everything is a cuck thing
>>107430363We don't know what he told her tho.Maybe he told her that Fauna and Gura were getting raped daily.
Is grimmi being viewbotted? Why did she blow up since the marriage leak thing?
>>107430526No, she would've been the 5th Justice member.
>>107432119How are you not aware NTR is one of the most popular fetishes this decade?
She's a retard for backing out but Hololive is retarded for hiring her in the first placeSounds like they kind of deserve each other
>>107430526You would be sucking her cock right now if she actually ended up joining.
>>107432186What? Grimmi doesn't have a cock.
>>107428523>She also confirms that she can show proof if she has toShow it then, the fact that she wrote that part means she knew people aren't buying, even if it's true she basically just telling people that she is a retard anyway, might as well show the proof so people don't call you a liar
>>107432309Anon, such claims are made to get attention, the supposed proof doesn't exist.
>>107432309it doesn't really matter now anyway.
I'm curious on what she told her.I also wonder if Apek talked with the other Justice members to warn them about this thing.He must've talked with Raora, she was pretty big and even did some work for Zen.
>>107431160>>107431099hang yourself windyfat tranny
>>107432343That's the point, if she actually got the proof then she will get more attention
>>107430060>She's incredibly retarded for believe this stuff and making decisions based on it without confirming them.Grimmi isn't exactly the most grounded individual.She's ridiculously naive and buys into the stupidest shit. If someone was nice to her once he is immediately "trustworthy" and "a friend". If she was peddled some Holo narratives from someone she thought was cool she's going to buy into them wholesale and spin an entire conspiracy theory about how it's all connected in her head
>>107432309Literally everyone and their dog thought she was the 5th Justice member before she even said anything. Only complete retards thought she would join Niji EN in 2025 with already having a modestly successful channel.
>>107432625People have been saying that she was going to be part of hololive since advent, see the shiori replaced grimmi rrat.
was she supposed to be shiori and when she left they just quickly pulled the girl thats now shiori in because that would make a lot of sense to me shiori is EXACTLY her vibe
I would've preferred her to Gigi Murin, although I still think this gen would've been mid regardless (despite it having my oshi).
>>107432625That's not a proof
>>107432728Shiori was scouted, her application was merely a formality.
>>107432811epic bait
>>107432728Shiori is from Advent, I assume she candidated herself for Justice.
>>107432728Her graduation was lined up for justice not advent. So either unreleased 5th girl or she was one of the others assuming this is true.
>>107432811if that's true then I genuinely wonder what kind of retard saw her channel and thought that she would be a good fit for holo
>>107432728No, the 5th justice member, because it is stupidly retarded that justice is 4 memebrs for ''lore reasons'', but you know what will definetely kill the 4 members cope? when EN5 debuts and they are 5 again
>>107432872>if that's trueShe hadn't even been active for half a decade at that point anon.
>>107432897all the more reason to not invite her lol
so she's a liar or a complete idiot. imagine being a vtuber and turning down hololive for what she has now.
>>107432968Have you ever watched Grimmi? Her getting into her head that Cover is the blackest of black companies because someone told her so is perfectly par for the course.
>>107432968she's a a legitimately mentally ill conspiracy theorist nutjob all mowtendoo or apek or whoever would have to do is tell her gura was being sexually harassed every time she was in japan and grimmi would instantly accept it as truth and come up with the most batshit insane connections in her head
>>107433101>gura was being sexually harassed every time she was in japanReminder they made Fauna change into her motion capture suit infront of male staff for Fes recordings btw
>>107433141so that's why she didn't want to go to japan for 3ds anymore it all makes sense!
shondo was right again. she was the 5th missing member
If this is the Grimmi complaint thread I just wanna say she's really abhorrent on Twitter, especially when it's people saying they don't vibe with her new direction of content.
>>107429515>>107429438>>107429414You faggots don't even watch streams or looked at what she was doing in the OP. You're all 14 year old homos.
>>107432833scouted girls do get to have their inputs on the models
>>107433286The girls having input on their models is the standard anon.
>>107433303No it isn't.
>>107428523>lets go of a lifetime chance (as long as you enjoy flying to japan every other month) because of vshojo (who died soon after)Grim. Grimmi, even.
>>107433311Okay anon.
Justice is the worst gen, and her inclusion would have further sunk it.How many breaks has she been on this year? She had a meltdown when Holo hired her friend, and then had a mother when Phase hired her firend as a croc and now cries about being alone
>>107431223To be fair, she could've tried to brave through it for just, like, 2 years or so, save money up and graduate afterwards.
To me it just shows how low the barrier to get into holo is now. She is not a singer or very engaging as a streamer. She has no skill. She is a random twitch girl with no standout talent.Shiori 2.0
>>107433303explain flare compared to noel ofc
>>107433452>She is not a singer or very engaging as a streamer. She has no skill.I don't like her either, but come on now anon. She has one of the biggest independent vTuber channels in the English scene and managed to get there completely on her own.
Have any of you retards ever heard of spellcheck?
>>107433516nough
>>107430860>Niji loving fujo from V4Mirai, a twitch coombaiterWho are these
>>107428523So this vshojo faggot at least did something good. Still, fuck him.
>>107433498>MUHNUMBERSPippa is a mid 4view and is factually the most talentless vtubers in the world. HoloLive needs people that have untapped potential who can become stars, not a dime dozen twitch streamer who inclines because they engage in twitter drama and does low hanging fruit content
please be nice she has a silly zone in her brain making dumb decisions all the time
>>107433373anon, you're a stupid bitch. that's grimmi. she streams like a horse abusing adderall
>>107433498There are vtubers on twitch who have 4,000 viewers that have extremely low mindshare because most vtuber fans are not very familiar with them
>>107433488Sankisei was the last time they had girls audition for existing models. Or at least 3/5 did, Pekora and Rushia being scouted is what made Cover form that group - likewise those two were also very directly involved with the theming of it all and got to have a lot of input on what kind of designs they themselves and the other girls would end up having.The Marine, Noel, and Flare designs were already existent by the time Cover opened auditions for Sankisei, you could even see them before applying. Noel got lucky in that she really liked the Noel design, both Flare and Marine were initially very unhappy with theirs. Marine eventually grew to love her look over the years, but at the beginning she REALLY hated it. Outside of a very small handful of examples where girls were added last minute or had special circumstances, like Kiara, Sankisei was the last time Cover had the girls apply for premade models, every single generation after the fact they did have input in the design process.
>>107433688>Pekora and Rushia being scouted is what made Cover form that group - likewise those two were also very directly involved with the theming of it all and got to have a lot of input on what kind of designs they themselves and the other girls would end up having.So only scouted talents get to have input.>Marine eventually grew to love her look over the years, but at the beginning she REALLY hated it.Source?
>>107433373Anon, Grimmi streams more than the entirety of Justice combined.
>>107430028>There's not a single hololive member you are actually allowed to dislike.until they announce they're graduating, then they were always total trash and the writing was on the wall
>>107433766Anon being a holo is more than being a streamer.How many 3D lives has Grimmi flown to Japan for and recorded this year? How many days and weeks has she spent in rehearsal and taking singing lessons?
>>107432752>a proofYou're east asian or latin american
>>107433821It's only then when people can actually say what they think.
she seems mid and I dont know why they thought she would be a fit at all. as the other anon said; shiori novella 2.0 bullet dodged and a waste of a spot
>>107433762>Source?Her streams.And yes, at that point in the past for Sankisei specifically only the two girls that were scouted got input. Back in those days it was kinda all over the place and every audition/debut process was a bit different.Take Haachama for example, she applied for a pre-made role where the model was shown ahead of time. On the other hand Mel, who debut like a month before her, had Mel created specifically for her. Aqua was a pre-made model despite being scouted, Shion auditioned (though nepotism gave her the final push) and had a model created according to her wishes. It varied a lot back then.Nowadays the process is entirely formulaic and very very different from back in the days. There's a reason it takes 6-12 months between a Holo gen being finalized internally and the girls actually debuting.
>>107433898>Her streams.That's not a source.
Grimmi should stop being a coward and play into the incest angle with her fictional brother Gaspar
>>107433979Then don't believe it, that's fine. It's nothing crazy and most people that have been follow Marine for a while are aware of it, but it doesn't really add anything to the discussion.
Is she gonna post some hard proof or are we supposed to believe every Twitch grifter that posts vague tweets?
>>107434015Grimmi should stop being a coward and become a lewdtuber.
>>107428523So uuuuuh If Grimmi didn't join because of mowtendo telling her Gura and Fauna were leaving Doesn't that confirm without a doubt that they were joining Vshojo?How else would he have this information?
>>107434015This
>>107433898wait until they hear about marine not being lewd at all back then lmao
>>107434156And other lies EOPs tell themselves.
>>107428523I would believe this if Grimmi joined vshojo instead or was in their dead predebut gen. But she wasnt. She is telling stories for clicks Why the he,, would vshojo give a shit about a then low 3view they had no interest in hiring themselves going to HoloLive?
>>107434171They didn't care about grimmi they cared about hurting hololive by any means possible and if that meant making someone who was going to join back out so be it
>I was supposed to be in holo AND I was a vshojo rape victim!all she is missing is that she was bullied by the niji clique and she would have competed the grifters hat trick
>>107434156She was always a bit lewd, early on it was just extremely forced since she was super awkward about it and didn't enjoy herself that much.
>>107434216How would some who not joining hurt Hololive?
was justice going to be 5 people, or was someone else subbed in for grimmis placejustice seems top to bottom designed for 4 members and no outward signs of sudden last minute scrubbing from the assets and covers
>>107434241she's currently not enjoying herself either
>>107434262Grimmi dropped out while they were still in the design phase, of course there wouldn't be any signs.
>>107434061>become a lewdtuberYou mean return to lewdtubing
>>107434126oh fugg
>>107434295You gonna post proof or just keep being a vagueposting fag the whole thread?
I do not by it at all. Justice was always meant to be 4. 4 members to bring Justice to the 4 Advent acts Fuwamoco, Biboo, Rissa and Shiori.5 makes no sense unless there was supposed to be another sisters act, which was not the case.
>>107434321Advent is 5
>>107434216Well, seeing how retarded she is looks like he did Holo a solid. And "two people she respected" did actually fuck off.
>>107434329Reread what I wrote.Advent is 4 acts. Fuwamoco have 1 channel because they are 1 act. They are a package deal.
>>107430728no surprise she looks up to Gura
>>107434259I know you have the IQ of an ant but management had gone through the effort of a selection process, gone through a fair bit of the onboarding process, and was then left with that person pulling out. It's irrelevant what you think of the chuuba, it's a lot of time and effort and planning wasted.
>>107434368she streams thoughbeitever
>>107434321Both things can be trueJustice was always meant to be 4, but they could have recast her. For all we know she was supposed to be Gigi.
>>107434320>begging to be spoonfedCheck the archive.
>>107434423she has no other way to make money, unlike Gura
>>107434295I mean have Grimmi become the lewdtuber. Plus, her PL wasn't really a lewdtuber. More like a lewd VA with an OC.
>>107434321Justice night've never been planned as a matched gen and was just retconned into one to justify an unusual member count, they had enough time for that
>>107434416Negligible in the bigger picture. Considering this shit, probably a favor actually.
>>107434484The one lewdtuber to rule them all, could've been grimmi. Instead we get this. Fuck this gay timeline.
>>107433870>I dont know why they thought she would be a fit at all.Her having a deformed brain is already justification; Yagoo wants to save disabled women
>>107432119What marriage leak thing?
>>107434584He seems to be able to create new ones.
Saba follows her, so I'm inclined to believe her version.She also states in the clip that she has no hard feelings on any part involved in this situation and that she's happy where she currently is.
>>107434495Advents lore is that they were on the runThe next gens lore was to bring Justice to themIt was the plan all alongDo you realize how easy it would be to recast at the stage this girl claims she backed out? They have a list of dozens of vtubers just waiting for the call who were finalists that would have taken it.This girls story does not add up at all, and the fact she is trying to double dip in drama by holo clout chasing and trying to latch onto being a vshojo victim tells me what I need to know about her
>>107430612>I'm now wondering, why does every single thing that was actually apek's fault get pinned on MTD?Unlike Gunrun, Apek and Mowtendoo's involvement within Vshojo went overlooked for a long time by most. When Ironmouse revealed that the company had been withholding the money that was supposed to be donated for like a year, Mowtendoo made a tweet complaining about Vshojo or Gunrun (I don't remember which), which put a lot of eyes on him for his hypocrisy after some of the vtubers that used to be part of the company gave details about his behavior in their testimonies. While Apek was also mentioned as another bad actor, he wasn't featured as prominently as MTD in those accounts, and he also held his head down while the implosion happened. I think that because of those factors the two are often mistaken as being one and the same.
>>107434460selling hot sauce and scamcoin is better than leeching from bf
>>107434628Then why wouldnt Gura just tell her herself she is leaving, instead of the #4 man in vshojo?
I see people constantly post>gigi confirmed that justice members were confirmed when they announced the fes (nov 2023)as proof of something (I don't know, I have no horse in this race, no agenda) but it's a lie, she never said this. This is what she said:https://litter.catbox.moe/na1312oig1o2fthm.mp4(Shitty quality since it's a members stream)Then someone took this anon's interpretation of it: https://archive.palanq.win/vt/thread/94189541/#q94192348and ran with it. I don't know what this means for this situation and I don't care. I just wish people will stop spreading lies.
>>107434321>4 members to bring Justice to the 4 Advent actsThere is no reason the numbers need to match, thats just lore autism they wouldnt get in the way of bringing on the number of talents they think is optimal
>>107434634>While Apek was also mentioned as another bad actor, he wasn't featured as prominently as MTD in those accountsGiven what has come out, Mowtendoo didn't have much to do at all.Every single time someone says "the COO did this" everyone blames mowtendoo and then the original accusation gets turned into "mowtendoo did this". I've even seen people try to claim that Mowtendoo is the COO or was at some point.I don't even which claims about mowtendoo were actually about him and which were blamed on the COO.
>>107434416You've got to be fucking kidding. You owe the company management your unqualified loyalty before they even hire you?
Sounds like vshojo did cover a solid.
Out of curiosity, is she European?If that's the case then it would make sense since she got eventually replaced by Gigi/Biscotti, I always thought it was weird that she was the only American in an entirely EU group.
>>107434818Are you fucking retarded? Where did I say Grimmi owed loyalty to Holo?
>>107434866She's a literal Native American
>>107431221Yeah she literally has a giant brain cyst squeezing everything
>>107428523>Grimmi confirms
>>107434928>waaah waaah waaah>she wasted the management's time
>>107434447Again, no. Gigi said by november they were all hired.
>>107434997Retard.
>>107430935Mormon or Jehovah's Witness?
Sure thing, Grimmi. Because when I watch her streams I sit back and say “man she is holo material!”
>>107434321autofister is counted as separate entitity for legal reasons
>>107434997Read the fucking reply chain>anon says he doesn't believe grimmi because she didn't claim to be a vshojo victim>other anon says vshojo wasn't interested in her, they just wanted to hurt holo>other anon asks how a literal who pulling out would hurt holo >I explain how it would hurt holoAt no point did I make a value judgement about Grimmi pulling out. There are so many dumb morherfuckers on this board.
>>107435024I know it hurts anon, it's not easy being wrong on the internet. This will take the sting away. Vaya con dios. You'll be alright.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueSnGteaDXk
>>107434947indian?!?
>>107428523If she's that stupid then cover dodged a bullet.
>>107434784Damn, understanding things is hard when people lie like this.
>>107435177Banbire was good one too even if she was not smartest person so she couldhavebeen ok
Grimmi adding her name to the KWABOTY list
>>107435177Cover lost ~8 talents this year alone. High turnover is a red flag
>>107428523her new model is so much less cute than her old one wtf
>>107435243It is only a bad sign if those talents had not been around long. They all had at least 4 years of service
>>107434808I remember that MTD was the one who tried to push other girls to get drunk and say controversial words and opinions (that would be another everyday occurence on this site) for his own amusement. As for Apek, I might be misremembering but it was said that he used to post on this board things that could be summarized as "Vshojo Good, Hololive Bad". And while this wasn't part of the accusations made by the ex-Vshojo girls, there was evidence found that pointed to Apek living together with Melody at the same time that she was inside the company.
>>107434629and Council's lore is that they're divine keepers or balance yet Advent, imprisoned by gods, has zero relation to them, stop assuming there's some grand overreaching lore that needs to be adhered to ever since Omega got the boot
>>107435243>listen to vshojo’s advice instead>entire company goes under while the owner runs away with the money>gets scammed by Seth meanwhileYeah, I think she made the right choice. I prefer the world where she didn’t join, mind you.
>>107428523If this is actually real , What compelled her to now announce to the world she was a fucking retard for letting go of the golden ticket ?
>>107435328Paisen, advent and justice are obviously related, just look at the comics
>>107435237She won though.
>>107435351Why not? It’s not like it changes anything, save for the cause.
>>107435368Winners dont go on stream crying about how they were almost in HoloLive until big bad vshojo talked her out of it
>>107435300I don't remember (or even really care) which accusation was about who. I just think it's so weird how so many of the accusations regarding apek get pinned on MTD whether it be about an unnamed COO, CFO or the current "the secondary dude".
>>107435410But anon she is a not botted low 4view on twitch she won. She is still only 1/4 of the size of mega stars Olivia Monroe and Clio Aite tho
>>107435410She didn't cry about it, she literally said she's happy with her decision anyway and I believe her since she's a pretty big indie now. How is that NOT winning?
everybody is laughing at her why would she admit this?it is like admitting you fell for a Nigerian prince scam
>>107435092 (me)>>107434997Anon? Where have you gone?
>>107435368still gunrun
>>107435356nigga, all this stuff comes from after the gen debut, we know zero bts details of how the gen was planned initially aside focus on European market (which has zero relation to Advent, who are mainly NA hours streamers)
>>107435483>pretty bignot even 1/4 of the size of Olivia Monroe or Clio Aite
>>107435243>High turnoverSomeone leaving a company after 6 years is not high turnover
>>107435517All of Vshojo fell for the same scam, so I guess it’s just another example of how things were.
>>107435517You forgetting one important thing.She's a woman. You can't expect her to act logically.
>>107435368Grimmi didn’t win KWABOTY. She might be a top 5 finalist. kson or nimi is KWABOTY
>>107435561It is when suddenly many talents are leaving at once.
Niggas in this thread are dumbfounded for companies in the entertainment business, acting like the entertainment business
>>107435463Oli needs to swing her fat bimbo titties in my face on stream and Clio needs to swing from a rope.
Ok but what what about Phase Connect
>>107435520Eh I still don't think it's a vshojo conspiracy. Holo's 2024-2025 graduations aren't a secret.
>>107430060>in about 6-7 months before the debuthow many months???
>>107435592How many of the graduates had a short tenure?
The average lifespan of a holo graduate is 4 yearsThe average lifespan of a phase graduate is 1 year
>>107435517Holobronies aren't everyone. Grimmi was correct to quit Hololive, she wouldn't have even gotten paid
>>1074356786-7.Advent debuted the 30th of july 2023Shiori was thinking about quitting vtubing in early december 2022This means that she didn't know she passed the auditions.This means that the girls are confirmed to be no more than 7-8 months before the gens debut.
>>107428523She could've been a millionaire by now... That dude fucked her over hard
>>107435852>saying this after the MSM incident
>>107435731Something changed and many Hololive talents talked about it. That's why suddenly many talents are graduating.Just because Hololive used to be good and talents didn't want to graduate doesn't mean much when we now arrive at the opposite situation.
>>107435897Judging by what Haachama said and what they did to her, MSM is preferable
>>107433245>slur-slinger calls other people 14
>>107435659 (me)>>107435520Hmm, thinking on this again, the timeline doesn't line up exactly. Obviously things are different now but when were the Justice auditions. I wonder if the cracks were already showing even back then.
>>107435462As I said before, I think that they're easily conflated because for a long time most weren't aware that they had any connection to Vshojo, so when Mowtendoo made that post on Xitter he drew himself a large target on his back which, combined with the fact that Apek wasn't very active on the platform, made it easy to forget that the two are different people.
>>107435908That didn’t answer my question. I’ll ask again: How many of the graduates had a short tenure? I’ll even limit the scope of this question to this year, 2025.
>>107436016And I already explained to you that it doesn't matter at all.
>>107436036It does. You specifically called it a “high turnover rate”, which means it does, in fact, matter. Now, answer the question.
>>107428523This is actually truly concerning.Not because of what happened, but because EN management was actually going to allow this filth in the company.Not only has Grimmi done hundreds of erotic voice works, including futa, cuck, and bestiality porn, but she's a mentally ill women who talks about the corn in her shit and openly talks about having relationships including a current boyfriend.What the actual fuck is going on with EN management? If this is the kind of trash they're looking for now, then my hopes for EN5 have plummeted through the floor and I no longer trust them to run the EN branch.Hololive dodged a massive bullet, but the gun that fired it was aimed at the company by EN management themselves. Holy fucking shit.
>>107436084NTAPoint is it's a different company in 2018 on 2025.
If Grimmi could get in, then damn near every Phase girl could get in.
>>107436103Gura quite literally sang a song for a pornstar before getting into Hololive
>>107436103Pfffthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvrtSuiXrdc
>>107436130That’s obvious, everything changes eventually, but it doesn’t actually answer the question. It’d be a more compelling argument if Justice were all out the door within under a year like Sana.
unless actual proof is shown to me, i won't trust what this grifter says
>>107436084A high turnover rate means a pretty high percentage of employees are leaving a company over a specific period, nothing more, so no, it doesn't matter.
>>107428523She’s a retard then
>>107436145The only Phasers I think that could be holos for one reason or another are Panko, Nitty, Lia, Hime, Bibi, Jelly, Runie. Maybe some of their JPs I am not familiar with them besides Clara and she is not holo material she is a headache.
>>107436103ah yes, Hololive, the company that'd never hire porn VAs and lewdstreamers
>>107436281The window is just as important as the tenure, but you already know this. Why aren’t you answering the question?
>>107436176Bell delphine was not doing porn when Senzawa sang that for her channel. Back then, she was only known for bikini photos and memes like the gamer girl bathwater shit. And even if she was, Senzawa was commissioned to sing a provocative song. That's not the same thing as voicing 100s of animations of you cumming and getting fucked by dogs.Nice try faggot.>>107436206I'm aware, and it's a disappointment and it's probably the same managers that wanted grimmi in hololive and want to ruin the company, but at the end of the day, it's just a song cover, not even an original, and it's not them literally voicing porn of them sucking a dog's cock like Grimmi did.
>>107436000Nah people were blaming these things on mowtendoo even before he posted anything specifically because everyone already knew of him. He was used as a marketing tool during the early days, while apek who was actually deeply involved with the company is a complete nobody to the public as his occupation was cam girl pimping.
>>107436380I guess in your opinion a company where management changes and many workers that were there for 20 years decide to leave in a short span doesn't have a high turnover rate.
I think it's probably for the best for both parties, since she doesn't sing or do much idol stuff.
>>107429354Grimmi is not a 3view. Grimmi does not do politics or reaction, she plays horror games.
>>107436364Nothing, not even polka's past works, compare to the depravity that Grimmi has been in, not to mention the fact that none of the JP talent that have done ero voice work in the past have ever openly talked about having boyfriends.Grimmi is your typical twitch whore. The worst kind of twitch whore. The fact she was considered at all, let alone made it in says a lot about the current state of EN and is indicative of why so many talents are graduating. EN management is corrupt and incompetent.
>>107430728So you've had a vendetta against her for years over a garbage WEG?
>>107436634She talks about the chunks of corn in her shit for her scat fetishist fans.Grimmi is a scat tuber.
>>107436651ah yes, Hololive, the company that'd never hire someone in an openly stated relationship
>>107436360Clara is just Phase's Kiara, in more ways than one.
>holofags throwing goalposts around itt
>>107436103>>107436550There are two JPs that openly post porn of themselves (pictures and audio) on alts. And before you say "oh that doesn't count" then it shouldn't for Grimmi either because she wasn't a vtuber when she did the VA work.
>>107436103we've already known for years how shit the EN management is because its a bunch of sisters shitting everything up behind the scenes and its gotten worse because yagoo has his entire staff so bloated now with useless hires
>>107434321This, the only way they could have 5 in Justice while still keeping the rivals with Advent theme would be if Gigi had someone to pair up with to match Fuwamoco's gimmick. So I'm going to believe the rrat that Gigi herself was hired in the last minute after Grimmi pulled out, which would also explain how she stopped being a horse in such a hurry.
>>107436550You know even pre-Hololive Miko is somewhere in JapaneseASMR doing lewd audio, yeah?
>>107428523Bullet dodged HARD, on holo's part of course.
>>107436983No because people who talk about>muh pure hololiveare complete tourists who have barely any familiarity with the girls. They're clip watchers at best.
>>107436599So, you still won’t answer the question? Contextually, a year’s operations having more graduates on said year is relative to contracts as well as outlook. If you’re suggesting that retaining workers for twenty years doesn’t still provide for positive outlook, I can’t really see why; of course, careers in the chuuba field aren’t remotely as long on average. Could you tell me why management is critically important to longevity versus, say, fatigue? Do you believe it affects the window of graduations as tangibly as burnout, divergent career paths, simple disagreements over streaming material?Personally, I do see a few disliking the corporate pivot with shilling and otherwise, but I still know the tenure of careers is important to factor in here.
>>107436976Grimmi in Gigi's model wouldn't work at all.
>>107436206geez, what a shit song
>>107432606There's a timeline where she's peddling Holo Hot Sauce and that's really funny.
>>107428523If true i have no idea how she got that close to debuting
>>107437059Nta, sealion nonsense>arf arf arf
>>107437128>still no answerwew lad
>>107435483>She said she is happy with her decision DYRBI ?Anything to save face
>>107436868clara has had problems in the 3 corpos she worked. and has not worked well under jp run corpos she crashed out of kawaii in under 100 days she would not last that long in holo regardless of her singing talent
>>107437200I don't think it's untrue, her viewership really shot up when she ungraduated compared to before it.
>>107430728>VA jobs for porn animationscan I see some?
>>107436206What an absolute flop. Justice really suck on the music front.
>>107436983You know she did 2 very tame voice works without animation, and neither of them are in any way comparable to the shit Grimmi has done, yeah?Seriously. Retards in this thread don't seem tohave any idea the level of disgusting shit Grimmi has been in.>>107436930They are lewd, but they don't do cuck content or explicit works with nudity, (except the accidental nip slip). Also both of them are loved by other holos and their fans and neither of them have ever talked about having a current boyfriend.Grimmi has done all of it including bestiality porn.And beyond the discussion of of her past content, Grimmi would be a terrible fit for hololive. She hates parasocial fans and actively cucks them, and would get more hate than Shiori and ERB combined. It's actually insane that they considered her, let alone hired her if this whore isn't lying about all of this.
>>107437200I’ll believe it on the condition that it’s just the better outcome she didn’t get in. On both ends, really.
>>107428523I can applaud that she did the correct thing. She acknowledged that she messes up big time, missed an opportunity of a lifetime, but just clenched her fist and moved on... I mean, at least she knows that she was good enough for Hololive, so there is at least that.>Not the owner of Vshojo but the secondary dudeSomewhere, a certain ex-vshojo employee is laughing every time he remembers how he managed to screw Grimi, kek
>>107436103Nah , What's truly concerning is no matter how hard Holo's scouts look there is nothing better out there
>Should I join something and be set for the rest of my material life on this planet?>No no, of course not, their competitors said bad things!>What do you mean their competitors were paying for propaganda against them?>What do you mean their competitors were stealing money from charities and didn't patly their talents?>What do you mean their competitors went bankrupt and the company got shut down?>I'm not upset with my decision at all! Haha!
>>107436634Most of her content this year has been reactslop and politics unfortunately. Crazy that a year ago id say she was the best vtuber out there, but now shes awful
>>107433101She's not mentally ill. She's missing 10% of her brain because ofna medical issue
>>107437331Her shitty upbringing probably has a larger impact on how she acts than that.
>>107437331She absolutely has shit going on besides that. If her missing brain mass is responsible for some of the things that are wrong with her it still falls under mental illness.
>>107437317I mean, at this point, what can she do about it? Keep crying forever? Nah, man, if you screw your future due to bad decisions and naivety, then you need to man up and move on.
Even for you cuck faggots that are trying to argue that other holos past works somehow compare to Grimmi's (they don't), the very fact that she got in and then was convinced by some guy to turn down the opportunity of her lifetime shows how incredibly stupid and mentally unstable this whore is. The very fact that she quit so easily right before debut demonstrates what a giant fucking problem this bitch would have been in hololive.
>>107436930>There are two JPs that openly post porn of themselves God I wish this was true. Sadly they don't actually show anything explicit.
>>107437331There's a hell of a lot more going on with her than that. That woman probably has over a dozen completely distinct diagnosable mental illnesses.
Said elsewhere>watching googoo gaga content does this to your brain
>>107437254NTA but you're wrong. She had an amicable split with the first one one and the other one went out of business. The third one, Phase, appears to have stood behind her the entire time after she got doxxed.What is a problem is that she's menhera about politics like Grimmi on her insta. They both really need to keep it to themselves.
>>107437331She's a paranoid schizophrenic that grew up in a cult where her mother regularly starved her to near death because she wanted her to become a holy child and "live off of light instead of food" while her father was a druggy gambling addict that regularly beat her into the cult hospital where they poured hot wax down her ears to "heal" her broken bones.There's a lot more wrong with her than just missing part of her brain.
So basically, we can confirm that Justice would have had another theme if Grimi hadn't backed out? I mean, it wouldn't make sense to have 5 Justice members as Advent's counterpart when Fuwamoco is considered as 1.
>>107437061Of course, that's why they made a new model for her.Grimmi would fit as a better rival for Shiori anyway, and then they would have just swapped Raora for the dogs.
>>107437480If this is true, then why does anyone believe her that she got in to hololive?She seems fucking nuts.
>>107437540You can have an absolutely insane upbringing and still end up a functioning adult.She's not necessarily crazy, she just has an absolute shitload of baggage and trauma in her past and on meds for the paranoia/schizo episodes.The Breatharianism bullshit in particular triggers her pretty hard when it comes to certain topics. She doesn't start screeching or anything lunatic like that, she IS perfectly functioning, but when something triggers her trauma from then she does need to take a time out and collect herself.
>>107437059I already said why I don't answer the question. It's completely irrelevant (not to mention I would need to look it up)In my opinion having many senior employees depart in a short timespan doesn’t inspire more confidence in a company than seeing many fresh employees leaving. If anything it might be even worse.
>>107437505Unknowable, given that whatever her personal concept was could’ve accounted for FWMC (i.e: she was their direct counter, somehow).
>>107437505>it wouldn't make sense to have 5 Justice members as Advent's counterpart when Fuwamoco is considered as 1.This has always been the dumbest fucking argument. EN gens have always debuted with 5 people. FUWAMOCO took up two slots, they share a channel because they are twins. They are not considered one person. They are considered one channel. It's why they get twice as many appearances in things like holofes.They wouldn't handicap an entire gen by only debuting four members because of some retarded lore reason or rivalry with another gen, a gen with 5 people in it anyway. You people are insane.
>>107430530>Why did she apply to Hololive if she isn't interested in idol activities, is she perhaps retarded?The last 2 EN gens have nothing to do with idol stuff.
>>107437540Craziness sells
>>107437400That's what she's currently doing, she should have just never brought this up but now she's probably looking for viewership or validation, things she would have had of she joined the corpo. She's a lolcow now.
>>107437654Sorry anon, you sound like you're a fan of her or know a lot about her, and it's sad that stuff happened to her as a kid, but to me, that sounds like a powder keg waiting to go off, especially under the stressful and hectic schedules that the girls in hololive have to go through all the time. I can't imagine someone like that would do well under those conditions, especially because of things like always having to travel, but more so because it would force everyone else to be really cautious and careful around her, lest they trigger her. Again, it sounds like she would have been a terrible fit for a place like hololive from what you're saying.
>>107437480>>107437654She should stream Cult of the Lamb. I wonder how that would go.
>>107437791I wouldn't call myself a big fan but I do watch her pretty regularly since she streams at stupid hours when nobody else is there.I do agree by the way, I don't think she would have handled the pressure and expectations of being a Holo well at all. It's probably for the best that she bowed out and I really don't think she regrets it either, her channel is doing very well as an indie.
>>107437317She didn't base her decision solely on him, did you even watch the stream?Not to mention that she is set for life regardless.
>>107428523Imagined getting scammed out of the best deal for vtubers, effectively ascending to vtuber heaven, because you listened to a guy involved with a literal prostitute vtuber company lmao
>>107437679Nigga, what I meant was that if they were going for the "Advent counter" from the start, it was illogical to have 5 members, because having two different girls as Fuwamoco opponents would have been extremely tacky in design, and it would basically force a pair in Justie. In fact, I dare to say that it happened like this:>They had another themere for gen4>One of the girls backed out>Now what do we do? There is no time to select another one!>Le inspired worker: What about making them related to Advent? They are only four, and we can use Fuwamoco's gimmick to give them a single opponent.>FantasticIdea.jpg>There was not much time left until the debut day that was already scheduled in the shareholders' terms.>Cover locked on and finished on time, that's why Justice had little to no hype frame like Advent, because that was not the original plan.
>>107437924Uhm, it would explain why Justice was dropped like that
>>107437656I keep asking because it differentiates seniority from newer recruits, that’s my point.>Aqua>ShionThere are your examples towards this case, Tenshi being 2019 as opposed to 2018. Omitting this is as an unimportant facet likely means you don’t even care about their personal reasons, which doesn’t explain the higher retention rate across the entire board.Gura is also important to that equation, but unless you’re talking solely ENs, it isn’t as hefty as some may have you believe.
It is so fun to follow Grimmi. No one else is this crazy.
>>107437924Okay. That's a lot more reasonable than suggesting that Cover was going to always intentionally debut only 4 members of Justice, hurting their chances of success due to some shitty lore battle with Advent that they have never capitalized on, nearly a year and a half later.
>>107436360>a year ago lia was thought of as the least talented phase member along with pippa>a few 3d lives later her dancing now has anons thinking of her as holo materiallife happens fast
>>107438075>implying it’s not just that sole anon which thinks any of this
>>107438136NTA but she's got great moves. shame about the ntr.
>>107437911>Not to mention that she is set for life regardless. Source?I would assume content creators of her size can make good money but set for life may be a stretch
>>107437402That is true but at the same time ERB already ruined Hololive for me, so hire all the crazy drama retards that they want. The faster HoloEn falls apart the better.
>>107438424lol, she's barely doing anythinghow did she ruin hololive?
>>107428523>Grimmi confirms that she backed out of Hololive and that she was the 5th member of Justice.And other lies she tells for clout.
>>107438390She makes like 2-4k $ each month by playing video games, just from subs, not including any merch drops (she sold over 500 makeshift plushies), sponsors (probably like 3-5k $ each for her size), donations etc.She also doesn't need to share that income with a company.
>>107438390She had a subathon she needed to cancel since it would have gone on for like 2 years of consecutive streaming 24/7
>>107439135>>107439172let's say around 100k-150k a year (before taxes) that's very good money but not "set for life money" yet, but i guess at this rate she can ride the simps money 'till middle age and make some millions
>>107437888>handled the pressureI would relieve the pressure of her impacted grolon [grimmi colon]
>>107428523>Grimmi confirms that she backed out of Hololive and that she was the 5th member of Justice.>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2637506449?t=05h33m14sGrimmi said that it wasn't Nijisanji and that it was the largest company which does heavily indicate that she was going to join Hololive. If she really was going to join a Hololive EN gen it's actually baffling that she didn't take the offer. Hololive does have major flaws and with all the Myth and Council graduations they clearly did HATE early EN management and Omega (the first hololive EN project director that Kiara has mocked on several occasions). Ina, Kronii, and Sana did have major complaints about their highly sexualized designs with Sana quitting after only 1 year. Gura, Fauna, and Mumei did quit because of whatever fights were going on between them and management.Still even in 2025 the overall situation does seem to be a lot better with Advent and Justice. Kiara has talked about how the newer gens have a lot of creative input on their model designs and they seem to get along with management. There have been no huge fights or suspicious health breaks that weren't due to long terms health issues like Roara and the surgery that was needed for her throat. I think Grimmi would have been okay had she joined Justice so it does feel like VShojo was spreading lies to hurt their competition. Actually is curious since this indicates that many EN indie vtubers have zero trust in Japanese companies and they were more willing to trust VShojo even though they were directly competing with Hololive.
>>107437654I could sustain myself breathing her sharts
>>107439172The fake subathon that she never actually did? I cant believe people believe anything out of her mouth at this point
>>107439653kys outfitschizo
>>107439727Well she did a subathon, she just gave up on keeping it going after like 4? 5? days since it "was bad for her mental health" or whatever. She still got an absurd amount of money through it even if she's never going to actually stream those hours
>>107428523>we could've had Grimmi in Justice instead of ERBAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFUCK YOU VSHOJO
>>107430482Bot detector says she is usually at 600-800ccv without bots. Sure seems like a good "boost".But I don't know, maybe Twitch actually pays for the 1000 bots watching her at all times.
>>107435063Falun Gong/Dafa
>>107439786ERB sounds kinda similar to her voice wise, I wouldn't doubt if they rushed to hire her as an alternative with a good voice, and that's why she seems so different/normie compared to the other members and also streams less.
>>107439786kek, mindbroken fag
>>107439135At those numbers and with minimal spending she needs to continue for around 15 years to be "set for life". Do you think she can hold her viewers for that long?
>>107439738>kys outfitschizoNo, and considering there have recently been 9 graduations in Hololive (Aqua, Ame, Chloe, Fauna, Mumei, Gura, Shion, Ao, and Kanata) it's laughable to say that talents never fight with Cover. I do think VShojo was spreading lies about their competition but it's much easier to do that when there is a kernel of truth mixed in with those lies.
>>107440104With those numbers she earns more than the average Holo.
Is holo's management team that incompetent that they couldn't reassure their talent and shut down these rumours?
>>107440115>Aqua is a retard who clearly regrets leavingseriously, go watch some of her more recent streams. She lost all enthusiasm for streaming and is worse off socially than in her first year in holo now. When chatters try to talk about holo stuff she gets really whiney and even quit stream before.>Ame clearly had disagreements with Cover, though going indie doesn't seem to have changed anything motivation wise. valid.>Chloe is on the fast lane to irrelevancy, no idea what was so bad she decided to fuck herself over it. valid.>Fauna only traveled to Japan 1(one!) time and clearly didn't function as a "hololive" talent. (no music, no concerts, no nothing)>Mumei is sick, and according to gossip it isn't getting better.>Gura doesn't want to work, and anybody who believes differently is blind and deaf>Shion ACTUALLY hated her loli model. valid.>Ao is mentally ill, it's actually a wonder she managed to stay this long, most of her 7+ entertainment jobs before holo she quit after <6 months>Kanata said in her own graduation stream that a big problem between her and management is that she is a workaholic but can't actually take the amount of work she could in the past for health reasons, and that is somehow managements fault even though they told her she could lessen her workload. valid, I guess, but also retarded. Especially if she really spend all her money on MVs and stuff without investing any.
>>107440202Kiara made 700k in her best year, it would take Grimmi 10 years to make that amount of money. Althought she probably pays way lower taxes, so for the net say ~7 years.
>>107440424MAYBE in 2021 lmao.
>>107440202>she earns more than the average HoloLOLLMAO
>>107440492Yeah, I said her best year. But even if she only makes a bit more than half of that, she is still raking in almost 10x what Grimmi is making.The only way you would be correct is if you meant to compare her to the ID girls, but they live in Indonesia where cost of living is like $12 a month.
>>107428523>Grimmi confirms that she backed out of HololiveSure thing. And I was scouted by yagoo to be the holo EN director but declined because I like my Mc Donald's job.
nah just one look at her channel, she was a mumei/fauna fan. great lakes area resident probably. Culturally, she fits into a perfect niche that would be left by mumei and fauna leaving.You could say that shiori and nerissa were supposed to fill that role, but they both dont really care about american culture.
