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>>91061980

Houshou Marine 1st Live
https://ahoy-youre-all-pirates.hololivepro.com/

Day 2 free portion
https://www.youtube.com/live/hmS_z-2epcM?si=40N0FS3VqWABexxX
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https://www.youtube.com/live/HOb_TW8uK48?si=0SBj_kmJYQgfq1Wr
Senchou will also appear here later tonight
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What a great time to be alive
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It begins.
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Nice CG intro
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Looks like cameraman is finally doing his goddamn job
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Are there guest for day 2
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This song was definitely intended to have a music video to be released during halloween season.
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https://youtu.be/bxVTrX8TjrU?si=rfDIS9Y7ith9LAjs
New MV dropping after the concert
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Cute
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Fuck, Unison LIVE!
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>>91138539
Vocals sound like the studio recording to me.
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>>91138590
Are you deaf anon?
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>>91138590
The "choose me" part was a giveaway
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>>91138824
Only the chorus was live.
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So cute
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ヨーソロー!
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AHOY!!
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This outfit is sex incarnate
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>>91137475
In 10 minutes
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Apparently Ao is now claiming that she's an ichimi who has been watching Marine since debut.
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>>91142118
I think we all know that she will say anything to avoid being accused of what she truly is.
Lamy and Lui were real ichimi before being in Hololive
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>>91137475
Starting!
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I don't know how to feel about this kind of CG MVs, on one hand I will always prefer traditional animation but on the other I understand that it might be a bit cheaper to produce as it's less work than animating each frame.
Still good song
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>>91142517
It's like love live mv's. Not every mv has to be the best sakuga. It's good enough.
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>>91142517
Corners need to be cut somewhere so might as well do it in the places where it makes sense. A song like this that's all about the dance is one of those places.
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>>91135575
Senchou is on
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Cute
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Decent filler song and MV. Just thankful there arent any more songs in the style of III
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Sex
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SEX
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Back at the hotel, best fucking Live of all time. I shouted til I lost my voice at the Ahoy finale.
I dunno how u guys heard the crowd by stream, but it was awesome there. The music mixing might have been a bit too loud to capture the crowd calls.
Marine is without a doubt the best Vtuber of all time.
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>>91146049
The audience was very audible. I assume there was some level of gain control done by the production team since the volume would drop quickly if people were going HEY HEY HEY right before Marine would start singing and it would be a part of a song where you don't expect to hear that kind of thing.
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>>91146049
Damm broo 羨ましい!But also glad you enjoyed it!
Im just glad we at least have the option to buy the online tickets and also give our support even from very far away from Japan. I wasnt able to watch day 2 live but the vod is finally up, gonna savour every second of it.
These 3D models alone have gotten some crazy upgrades.
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>>91146049
Today was better than yesterday imo, the camera at least was a bit better this time too.
Great Hololive overall
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>>91146358(me)
*Great Sololive overall
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>>91142230
>Lamy and Lui were real ichimi before being in Hololive
They seem to be fairly casual fans and never made a big deal about it.
Lui being "the ichimi holo" was a thing for a while but she never made any ridiculous claims about watching Marine since debut to assert superiority over others.
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>>91146049
Marine is the gift that keeps on giving.
Every show is better than the last one. I can only imagine the ammount of blood and effort put on this show alone. Probably months of practice for this one alone.
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>>91146232
>>91146289
>>91146358
Glad you guys could hear it since I saw some people complaining about the audience in Day 1. I think no one expected her to begin with Ahoy, so the start might have been way softer but the Ichimi were really going all out.
I sincerely hope every Ichimi gets to attend her Lives at least once. Such a great experience, I hope I never get dementia.
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>>91146723
Lui was real, liked Senchou and was happy she inspired her to leave black company and then acted normally, wasnt trying to leech off of her.
The moment Ao appeared I was constantly bombarded with her. Oh, Marine collabing? Shucks, its with Ao.

I hope Marine at least gets horny benefits from her, otherwise damn, didnt expect she would let someone take advantage of her
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>>91142230
So whats the deal with Ao?
Don't know much of her backstory, Marinewise.
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New akasa ai art dropped
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>>91146049
Lost my voice too
Definitely one of the best experiences of my life
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https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1865764963815682264
Senchou is so cute
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Marina Inoue, Misato Fukuen and Seiichiro Yamashita were in the audience today.
https://x.com/Mari_navi/status/1865741807440818668
https://x.com/seichiro0521/status/1865731513461125629
Sumire Uesaka also went even though she was at another event in Korea yesterday.
https://x.com/uesaka_official/status/1865728312305463531
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Tanaka Kouhei talking about Marine Shukkou
https://x.com/kenokun/status/1865725962861887875
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yJAexBhjNU
Kururu talking about the event
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Just finished watching the VOD. Absolutelly worth the 70 bucks I put in for both days online. Live band, great coreography, great songs, amazing guests, overall top tier production.
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>>91148411
>Marina Inoue, Misato Fukuen and Seiichiro Yamashita were in the audience today.
just saw this while doomscrolling and came to post it but it was already posted.
have you guys spotted any other celebs tweeting about going?
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You sure have a hateboner for Ao
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where can i get the day1 vod--aint it on nyaa yet?
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>>91152383
it's on kaizoku
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https://x.com/uesaka_official/status/1865728312305463531
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>>91149974
Not counting Akio Suyama who said yesterday that he would also be there today, I have not looked for any others yet.
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>>91152395
Yeah, she is a pirate, that's pretty well known.
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>>91148622
I really wanted to see this as well, it was kinda quiet on the stream though. Also the camera pans of the crowd showed loads of people not yo ho hoing.

I don't know what happened to the hololive audience but they're not going to organize themselves like they used to. I don't know if we'll ever get performances of Ahoy and Marine Shukkou where the crowd really does justice to the parts of the composition that were specifically designed for the crowd participation
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>>91153001
cosplayer*
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>>91153131
This you?
>>91071893
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wow you can really tell in pai pai kamen the exact point in the song where they muted the crowd
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Senchou talking about not wearing panties and the camera focused on her crotch in that moment was the funniest shit
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>>91153348
>/baubau/
ewwww
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>>91152627
https://x.com/misa0110/status/1865777733630034009
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I think the FNS shortened Pai Pai Kamen is genius on Cover's part.
Showing a vtubers (especially Marine) live concert in front of that many people and of that high quality production on national TV could be huge for Hololive.
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>>91153893
i was looking for kaizoku in the archives...
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>>91152395
which one is this?
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>>91148711
based, I want loads of these reports from everyone possible
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>>91153475
whoa in unison too, they mute the crowd so suddenly
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FBK called Unison Union........
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Machuri?!?
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>>91155545
classic matsuri

how much is the gold worth anyway, how much mass is the coin?
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>>91155940
14g
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>>91156056
damn that's a huge markup then
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reality fantasy sounded like it was actually live
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>>91156126
How much is the coin worth in terms of carat?
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>>91157413
carat is a unit of mass, it's equivalent to 200mg

if the other anon is right and it's 14g of gold, then that means it's 70 carats of gold

1g of gold is about 12man yen, so 14g of gold is about 170,000 yen

matsuri bought her coin for 495,000yen

it's roughly a 200% markup, or 300% of the price of the gold
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>>91156211
I would say it was all pre-recorded except for the MC parts. No way in hell Marine can do more than 2 songs in a row without gasping for air. Maybe she should hide that fact more by doing more breaks between songs.
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Yeah, no gasping for air nor mistakes (as far as i watched).
I would prefer authentic performance and having fun over perfectionism but if she prefers it this way its okay too, as both as both sides have fun
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>>91158581
You are seriously underestimating what people can do with enough effort and training. If what you say was the case every singer in the world would need extended breaks in a live show, which they dont. She does pretty well in her random karaoke sessions. "Old Marine" is a thing from at least 3-4 years ago, since then she's been putting a lot of work in.

Besides you make it sound like a 30 year old would grasping for air every sentence is commonplace, which would need them to lead extremelly sedentary lives, smoke like a truck and be obese like the moon in the first place.
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>>91159117
You underestimate how hard it is to sing and dance at the same time.
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>>91159323
Oh I watched enough of it to know it is very possible and to know not to assume people would always take the easy way out instead of put the work.

As a matter of fact you can go google japanese idols singing and dancing withouth gasping for air like they have lung cancer right now.
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>>91159117
you're delusional if you think anything was live aside from the emceeing, it's totally implausible

some of the girls actually do perform live at concerts, suisei for example. Most girls don't, and it's pretty obvious if you know what to look for. I mean, Marine was at Shion's concert too today, do we really think she ran off imeediately after her big K-Arena concert to perform in Shion's as well?
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>>91160178
Most holo stuff now is rec'd singing, live MCing, both EN and JP. I remember Calli used to (or did at least one) concert which was live singing too, but I don't know for most mems 'cause I don't watch that many concerts.
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I'm looking forward to her furikaeri stream
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>>91160178
Humm, I didn't watch Shion's, maybe that one was prerecorded instead? How much did people have to pay to watch shion's live concert?

We cannot really know 100% really.

Who knows, maybe theyre not even dancing, maybe have people hired to dance and they sing, maybe they pre recorded the music and are just dancing. Maybe its all hired actors and Marine is just eating McDonalds while watching in the background and she is actually a 3 feet tall cyclops. Or maybe they are actually just doing it.

I would need more cues to know why you think that, not even saying you are wrong, but saying it is totally implausible though, that is something we can say it is not because other people can do it.

If someone can do it, anyone can do it, but since it isn't actual live people but avatars we can never know.
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>>91160178
>Marine was at Shion's concert too today
This is such a dumb thing to bring up when they're all pretty open about the fact that 99% of guest appearances at regular 3D celebrations are recordings.
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>>91154151
Having to shorten it is kind of a shame. The home audience would like the enka part.
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>>91162044
How much shortened was it?
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>>91161071
they're occasionally open about it, but even that happened gradually and trickle-truthed as it became more and more untenable to pretend otherwise
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>>91153831
the camera man was thinking the same thing as everyone else
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>>91163610
By two whole minutes.
The intro was cut in half (which only saves about 8 seconds) and the first chorus continues straight into the final chorus instead of into the instrumental break that's like the intro. Both of these had the crowd expecting to chant along to the music, but then couldn't.
The total length matches the Bishopai cut they showed at FNS last year.
I think the cut is ironically more noticeable than it would be because of the crowd.
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>>91142601
Don't compare the soulful LL MVs to this CG. I do think it's better than Pai Mask CG but I wish we could go back to that God tier animation style instead
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>>91165607
>Pai Mask CG
God, that was awful. It's genuinely difficult for me to listen to the song because it makes me think of the video...
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>>91164707
Marine has always been open about it.
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>>91165895
I mean, she's not so open about it in general as a concept that you don't have people who thought that maybe yesterday was live

Some people genuinely still have that misconception, because in general it's not something people go out of their way to mention if they don't really need to. There's a little bit of kayfabe
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>>91165895
>>91166804
like I don't think Kobo is even in Japan right now, but Marine isn't going to go out of her way to mention that the Kobo III performance at the concert was recorded like 2 months ago
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This still feels so surreal to me. All this is for a vtuber!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssSMmFQkOE

Our Senchou is very special, and I'm super proud she's managed to achieve this.
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https://x.com/hochi_tkyhensei/status/1865848829687517502
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so... second live when?
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the day 2 encore calls were better than day 1 but also gigafucked huh
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Please Marine stop hiring Sanzigen for your MVs

Please...
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>>91167567
Still always feels weird when I'm reminded that Marine has elementary school girls among her audience.
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>>91167798
I genuinely believe that the shape and size of the venue caused that. Part of the crowd was always quite delayed during calls and that issue would become most apparent with a continuous call.
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>>91165736
i watched the MV like twice and never listened to the song again until this past week. it bumbs so hard in the car. top 5 for me now
they're the same people that did watame's "what an amazing swing" right? ELECTRO SWING HATE. FAKE TYPE HATE
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>>91168292
It's the parents that are the primary fans.
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>>91168401
i guess that means marine's so popular that the speed of sound is too slow for people at her concerts to coordinate properly
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>>91168493
>>91167798
It was just the crowd mic picking people up closer to it more
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oh they actually unmuted the crowd all the way through the song for the final ahoy

wow, finally
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>>91168228
Meh, I'm fine with them as a cheaper option for the less important album tracks that would have normally been skipped over for MVs entirely. I doubt she'll use them for any of her big passion project singles.
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>>91168860
do we even know if they're that cheap

maybe compared to a full-sakuga MV like yuureisensen but I doubt they're cheap compared to all of marine's other MVs
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no holoism songs in the end huh
I guess even Marine has forgotten the lyrics to them
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No SHINKIRO too, I assume Gura couldn't be bothered to go to Japan to prerecord a performance
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time to rewatch the concert 10 times with the watchalongs

this is what I've found so far:

holo:
aokana: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3fmEfJ3MI0
flowglow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdPoSsDRWqA

indies:
yume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVp-Lib22Jk
holotaro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9CSTbnvAs
mezame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0rpDwf7Rtw
nemu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDrvHF3vDH0
kayori https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUiMBxskUL8
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>>91169857
oh ollie did a day 2 too it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjRwsH1MemE

I appreciate that, good on her
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>>91169857
>flowglow

Anything interesting from that watchalong? None of them have collabed with Marine but I assume they've all met her in the studio already AND I also assume they immediately submit with a dogeza like Ollie did.
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>>91170144
Wrong, it was pretty subdued, chihiya and vivi seemed to enjoy it
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>>91170144
don't know yet, I'll report back when I watch it

I'm a big fan of the tradition of newly debuting gens doing watchalongs from the sidelines when they're not included yet in the first big concert post-debut though, it's so cool

The yonkisei one for 1st fes, the gokisei one for 2nd fes, the holox one for 3rd fes. Even advent did one for 5th fes which was good considering regloss couldn't be bothered to aside from Ao
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>>91170599
regloss did a watchalong of blue journey I guess though, so that counts
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Heading to Osaka to catch Suzy's concert now. But honestly I dont think anything can beat the Ahoy finale.
My holiday has peaked too early.
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So now that Senchou has reached her finest hour, what's next for her?
What else is there to reach?
I honestly wish she would take it easy for a while and reduce her workload a bit and I don't know maybe stream a bit more and with more varied content, I don't know crazy, right.
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>>91173387
Did u even watch she had a whole speech about it
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>>91173387
She will claim the One Piece and become the Pirate Queen.
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>>91173835
She doesn't watch one piece (she's so based)
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>>91173387
first live is done, time to get ready for the second album and the second live
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>>91168292
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>>91173562
you mean the letter? it was pretty light on that topic
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>>91175075
>I want to do a second sololive
what's confusing about that?
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>>91175187
I didn't say confusing, I said light
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>>91175344
Well she's said a shitload of stuff leading up to the live, like how she wasn't streaming enough, while she started streaming more
We're probably entering a second golden age
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>>91175463
yeah that stuff was really heartening, got my fingers crossed she follows through now
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wonder how long it'll be before the next sololive
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Anyone know where I can watch or download FNS?
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>>91182871
It's going to be here https://tver.jp/series/srnggpldeo
Just need a VPN
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>>91178591
She needs more original songs to put together a setlist that doesn't feel like a retread.
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Some guy's tour of the Marine Tower collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxUw-ulNFuo
Yokohama local walking around outside of the venue on day 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GssSMmFQkOE
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>>91185744
Nice
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>>91185744
yeah I hope lots of people upload these
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>>91183527
yt-dlp will work on tver vods even without one too I think, I don't know why
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To be honest since Marine reduced her amount of streams I stopped watching the rest of Holos regularly, if she gets back to regular activity again I might go back to checking on the other girls as well.
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no recap stream today it seems

baseball tomorrow,

recap zatsu on the 11th
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OYubshoOWQ
Mio talking about the concert
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCPvYtaW30I
lamy is putting her stream discussing the marine concert behind membership wall lol
wondering whether I should member just to hear her perspective
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>>91188845
>lamy is putting her stream discussing the marine concert behind membership wall
Why?
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>>91188941
who knows, lamy does loads of membership streams where she talks about whatever she's been up to so I don't think it's like she's doing it for a particular reason
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is it just me or were there loads of female ichimi at the concert?
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>>91190090
Camera usually seeks them out. Kururu said it seemed like 9 to 1 to her.
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>>91190090
Marine is notably one of the holos (if not the Holo) with the highest proportion of female fans so it is no surprise that there were several at the concert.
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should I drink rum tonight
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>>91192746
It's monday
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>>91142517
The CG MVs don't really do much for me either. I think they plausibly could, like I don't think the CG is the issue - I think the storyboards and animation are just not that great.

Also maybe if I liked the songs themselves better I'd feel more positively too, Pai Pai Kamen and Complex Princess are some of marine's weaker oris
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>>91142118
she did say that near the end of the day 1 watchalong
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marine hit 1.9M followers on twitter today, seems like a lot
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so what do we think about this new mv
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>>91196789
better than not having an MV I guess

I'm not sure it feels entirely like Marine though, all of those Sanzigen animations have a house character design that kinda overpowers the original designs
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>>91148711
kururu has really grown her audience since last I looked at her, good for her.

I wonder if having Marine on that one time helped
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>>91197785
Nah it's more that she is actually active now compared to before and takes part in those niconico collab events
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apparently there was one really bad-mannered dude near the front who was causing trouble for people?
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>>91199052
The dude with the UOs that was cycloning? I thought he was based for that.
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>>91173387
tokyo dome or budokan, kohaku utagassen, more songs and albums, world tour, there's plenty of stuff she could aim for.
the fact that she's been so menhera for years makes me a little afraid that she can't stay motivated and sees this as the peak, and ends up graduating in the next 2-3 years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAnJWk8LdA

marine in the thumbnail, premieres in 2 hours
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>>91200657
lol yeah that's the guy, dude was getting dragged on twitter by loads of people

they do say not to do that in the warnings/rules bit before the concert, lots of sticklers I guess mad at him for not following the rules like everyone else
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>>91188941
troublesome woman
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>>91173387
More lives, with even better production!
>>91201438
She'll be fine, she isn`t Rushia, RIP RUSHIA.
She is the less menhera of the unit overall, I would even consider her the hololive psychologist.
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>>91202043
I would describe Marine as very menhera, she's super unstable and lets her emotional swings affect her behaviour really strongly
Like in general she tries to hide it but even what little of it that we see is pretty extreme

I love her but emotional stability isn't her strong suit
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>>91202163
I think she will be fine, though I don't underestimate people to go nuts either, mental health can be silly even with the most stable human being (and she is, shes always helping the other members mentalwise)
To be fair this one huge success should actually do great for her mental, so I don't feel like there is a need for worry right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CtqxIsphyc
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWpcB4QrVoI

marine might be on subaru koya at some point in the next few months
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I should take a nap with senchou together...
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>>91202471
I want to go back
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Ahoy!
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Fubuki suddenly talking about the live
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>>91209695
I still can't get over how good those TWO days were. Absolutely incredible
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>>91190090
Yeah there were a lot of girls
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Timelapse of the outside of the venue on both days
https://x.com/sakuragisk/status/1865995246066364914
https://x.com/sakuragisk/status/1866067654789972450
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>>91202361
I don't know, the stream the day before day 1 she was super menhera waiting for something bad to happen and even though the tickets sold out she insisted that it was partly thanks to the guests.
I don't understand what could have happened to Marine in the past that made her practically not have a bit of confidence in herself.
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>>91212681
I guess ten years of being a corporate slave and a failed artist did that
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>>91212681
A lot of rejection, probably. Didn't her mom leave her and her sister when she was just a kid or something similar? Her sister is also apparently an introvert shut-in with plenty of problems as well.
Vtubers also can feel disconnected easily too, "Am I only popular because of 'Marine' or do they like me as a person as well?" probably goes through her head a lot and especially wouldn't help when she feels down.
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>>91213450
No her mom was still with her in 2012.
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>>91213450
To be brutally honest the truth is that I love Marine for the whole set of parts that make up the character together, be it the woman behind it, the name, the avatar, the theme, the activities she participates in.
But I'm not quite sure if just the flesh and blood woman would appeal to me as much, so maybe those insecurities she might feel are valid.
But that's just me, maybe there are a lot more people who would follow her anywhere without even having the gimmick of being a Vtuber and even as a flesh streamer.
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I wonder if the life-size statue will eventually end up here too?
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>>91215643
Probably, but personally I'd love it if it stayed in the actual Yokohama Marine Tower, but I doubt that would happen
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>>91213450
I'm pretty sure her mom died
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>>91217117
>Shares her bed with her ideal girlfriend that is devoted to her (for now).
>has a big concert
>Shares the scenario with her top singer idol ojiisan
>her career is only going upwards

Your oshi is making all her dreams true, what about you, ichimi?
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>>91218069
Oops, sorry, didn't meant to quote: 91217117
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>>91215643
Hopefully the next life-size figure at next year's holoFes will finally be Senchou, it would be the fairest thing to do, she is currently the most successful Vtuber in the world.
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>>91215643
Of course it will, but it's still at the tower.
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baseball today
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>>91225661
She was only in this for a few minutes today but it was really funny. Love this hag
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I don't know when it happened but at some point Marine really became the sexiest woman in the world to me. I'd do anything or give anything to make her pregnant with my child.
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>>91228352
you and many others

there will be a winner too, god knows she wants lots of kids
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She's gettin older and if she wants loads of kids, which seems to be the case, then it won't leave much time for streaming and shit.
We probably don't have much longer with her
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>>91229200
yes, they're in tension with each other. she has to give up on one or the other
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>>91229200
It would suck, but I don't blame her. She gave us the best years of her life, she's aging like wine, she probably has the best stamina she's had in years.
If she's serious about a family I think we have another year together with her at best.
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>>91229200
Just this year she said she doesn't have any interest in having a family.
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>>91229365
I mean it depends how much she plans ahead. Some people have lots of kids starting after 35. Some people have kids in their 40s. It's just rarer and more difficult.

If she takes it seriously and wants to maximize the probability she'll be able to have kids she would have started having kids yesterday. But she can always procrastinate and end up rolling the dice way way later.
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>>91229594
Unless she's okay with having a bunch of autistic kids the sooner she starts the better.
Especially because women her age tend to date older, and while yes most of the onus on having a healthy and normal child rests on a woman, being an older dude also has an impact.
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>>91230076
autism is less scary than downs

she's rich though, so she could always IVF and embryo select away anything she doesn't want
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>>91229575
Damn, my bad guys, after 1 night with me she decided she's done with dicks and children.

Memes aside, I heard many times she wants kids, maybe she changed her mind or just giving fake info to not give away too much about herself
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>>91229575
DYRBI?
>>91231185
It's obviously not true, Marine has wanted to be a mother since she was a teenager to such an extent that she used to buy toys for her co-workers' children at her old job at the black company.
She had already said that she was supposedly happy just to have the ichimi by her side and some time later she did that psychological test stream where she revealed that she has always wanted to have 3 children, 2 boys and a little girl.
She says that so as not to lose her unicorn audience as well as to give the illusion that some ichimi might "win her over".
Either that or she's also had a horrible romantic life and it's just her coping, I remember that time she revealed she went to a marriage seeking party and was unsuccessful, which hilariously enough broke jp ichimi for days.
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>>91235618
Do you mean she lied when she said she spends all of her money into making hololive content? She said she does that because she has no plans for the future.
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>>91235618
A whole lotta garbage in this post
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>>91235618
Japanese men really are herbivores if no one tried their luck with her.
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>>91235952
she doesn't say ALL of her money goes back into hololive content, she says she has some saved up too
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>>91236228
Wrong
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>>91236322
she's said it multiple times you EOP
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>>91236373
>calling me an eop when you make an EN paragraph about her secretly looking for a boyfriend to have kids with
ooookay bud
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>>91236455
that wasn't me dickhead
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>>91236490
That's the side you're taking currently.
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>>91236490
Like anon said
>>91236514
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>>91236514
grow up, how juvenile do you have to be to think in terms of "sides"
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>>91236572
This isn't some isolated case where you're being accused of supporting a side out of nowhere, but you jumping into a conversation clearly on the other side of the argument.
She has no plans for the far future and isn't saving money to have a family. If she has any savings it's for immediate emergencies and having a buffer to keep doing what she's doing.
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>>91236572
Tribalism has rotted that anon’s brain.
>>91236455
Also who said she secretly wants to have a boyfriend?
/vt/ and their cuck mentality, always thinking about men first, the only thing we know is that Marine has the desire to be a mother and that has never been a secret, the thing is that she has never expressed wanting to have a family now (in this time frame) maybe in the future she will, who knows, it depends on how her career continues.
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>>91236813
She must be loaded with cash. just see how many collabs she had and promos + merch + youtube. There's no way it all goes into music videos and shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn5oekVPd7s

this is one of the main streams of relevance here, 1:19:40 is where she starts to talk about this

ichimi got concerned so she walked some of this back in later streams and tried to reassure the ichimi that she has a bunch saved up, because she responded here to "I want you to have savings enough so that you can survive even if you were to quit hololive" with "I don't even want to think about life after holo, I can't imagine it"

The thing is even here she does say she's living on savings atm because she's not getting any income from holo for a few months (because this is her arrangement with cover, that they pay for lots of project stuff and subtract it from her pay from them)

But even that wasn't enough and she had to reassure ichimi in later streams that she has a bunch saved up. 'sasuganine', becase of course she does

As for how this relates to the 'does marine want a family' discussion I don't think this really contradicts how frequently marine has talked about wanting kids, here she's just scared in general about the future and in particular about getting old
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>>91237179
You tried Jeremy
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>>91236813
> She has no plans for the far future and isn't saving money to have a family
And why the fuck should she be saving up for a family, she's a woman, that would be her hypothetical future husband's job, unless she wants a boytoy or some bullshit like that.
Plus Marine already has enough status and reputation (not to mention her obvious physical attractiveness, her huge ass) to attract a literal oil baron so she wouldn't even have to worry about having to work to help with the household finances, just by getting married she could have her life set.
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>>91239534
Your view of relationships is very unrealistic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAnJWk8LdA
this was pretty good, and Marine is a real natural for this kind of content too.

it's interesting that Mito prefers to do this kind of content, considering she was literally the one who kicked off the streaming era of vtubing, for her to go back to video submission content
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>>91240844
Mito hasn't been streaming for years now
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>>91240844
Mito is from the old guard, she must feel more comfortable creating pre-recorded content like this than trying to be funny to entertain a live audience.
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>>91241294
HUH
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>>91240844
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Marine breaks into JP TV at some point soon as well.
That old guy fake vtuber thing she did with Foobs and Miko went down really well and she absolutely starred in it, getting laughs pretty much every time she said something. If Cover focus on it, Marine would excel at it. Like she does at almost anything she puts her mind to.
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there's a stream later

are you guys enjoying the baseball streams?
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>>91252644
so far yes, unless she got bored by it
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>>91135468
bump
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https://x.com/houshoumarine/status/1866343226183184734

baseball tonight
FNS tomorrow
recap zatsu the day after
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also she drew this for people who have been member for 5 years
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ZNlnQlTDM

TODAY'S STREAM
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https://www.youtube.com/live/_j37G3AMim8

also Nora is going to do a kansoukai as well
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>>91243180
Well that seems to be the direction they want to take Hololive in. Less streams, more "mainstream" appearances in TV shows and such like "real" aidorus.
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>>91258708
It probably makes them more appealing to some categories of advertisers if they're on regular TV a bunch. Japan is such an old population that TV has a lot more relevance compared to countries where people have moved on to a greater degree. Viewership has been waning even in Japan but it's relatively strong.

Having said that I don't think it's a good demographics match. Hard to say whether the more oldie trad sponsorship opportunities are even worth the effort and time required by sending girls on these TV jaunts. Like I really don't think Cover have a good sense of how valuable Marine's time is, they give her so much ticky-tacky busywork when she's in incredibly exclusive company when it comes to the sheer size of her audience. Like those 1hr sponsored streams probably cost advertisers something like $50k to $100k, potentially a lot more.

This isn't a woman you want to be burying with trivialities, and some of the stuff they had her doing to try and break into TV really were that. Like when they had her doing the voiceover for that nannan show. Maybe that helped build relationships or something, but Marine really took one for the team there because that was a nothingburger of a job, but still a solid day of recording and having to use her voice for her.

Holo have arguably done a good job in saturating the online attentionspace and the people who only watch TV are in some ways the next frontier for them to break into, so I can kind of see why they're making the effort. They don't really seem to have a bigger picture plan though, and are dumping endless amounts of cash into metaverse crap instead of anything helpful here. It's hard to have much confidence in their strategic vision.
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>>91259542
to be fair yagoo's definition of metaverse is not too far off world's largest entertainment company like disney, as in creating their own bubble so consumers can deeply engage in their products and happily spend money.
holoearth (yagoo's personal pet peeve project) is one of few arguments I can agree that it will be trash
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEd3fAP8VyA
various holos' perspectives on the concert
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>>91201548
That's a shame, I think UOs and cycloning can make lives more hype. Marine has a lot of songs that I want to pop UOs too and cyclone. Wonder why they banned them
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>>91263876
a sea of UO orange can distract your eye from the performance, I guess the wotas lost the fight on that one
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>>91148711
I wonder how Kururu feels about Marine's enormous success. She was probably closer to Marine than anyone for that decade before Marine started at holo, at least in terms of other streamers/content people. It must be strange to see your friend explode in popularity like this at least to this extent that she has.

I guess Marine had already been somewhat of a big shot at her peak for the time, so maybe it wasn't that surprising.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ZNlnQlTDM

30 mins til stream
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4ZNlnQlTDM

S T A R T I N G
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>>91266958
You can already tell she's way more relaxed now, which makes sense
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I dislike baseball stream couldn't be rescheduled and tomorrow FNS live prevents senchou from doing furikaeri stream
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>>91267223
yeah it's weird to not get a furikaeri until thursday. I guess she didn't want to do nikaikoudou today and get it out of the way before baseball, although I think that would have made the most sense
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>>91267311
today is impossible as baseball stream will be all night long, but furikaeri tomorrow after FNS should be possible though, I guess she want to avoid a risk violating contract
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is it just me or has marine's rng been terrible
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>>91268724
presumably spent all this year's luck already
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>Bancho
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>>91243180
>if Marine breaks into JP TV at some point soon as well.
>If Cover focus on it, Marine would excel at it.
I really hope she doesn't, TV is generally the death of the online content creator's career.
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she should use character creation time to talk about something... like her 1st live
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you guys got link for shukkou and unison live?
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please have some baseball action...
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aoki is ded
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flare is too powerful
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Holy shit, when was the last time Marine streamed for over 6 and a half hours? I hope she does occasional long streams like this but not for baseball, now that she can relax a bit more.
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>>91278741
we're so back
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Ahoy
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>>91281076
At least for now
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>>91278741
She actually streamed for almost 7 hours, if only she played a better, more entertaining game to watch..
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Yeah game was boring AF even Marine wasnt able to interest me in it. Was it sponsored or whatever?
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>>91289599
nah I think pekora just saw how well Koyo's holoKoshien did and wanted in on the action. It's doing really well numbers-wise for everyone so it's working too.

At the end Pekora, Marine and Noel will play each other and it'll be pretty exciting for the viewers who sat through all this raising-sim gameplay
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>>91290106
It's going to be bs if Pekora wins again another tournament
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>>91290106
Too bad it ended up making Koyori very upset.
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>>91290397
did I miss something? what did she get upset about
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>>91291167
Koyori invited all of them to her event but none of them accepted for various reasons. She probably feels slighted that they are doing their own event right after hers.
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>>91291618
I didn't see her imply that she felt slighted anywhere
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>>91291689
She has been weird ever since this current powerpro thing was announced and didn't post anything about Marine's sololive even though she posts about everyone's sololive's every single time.
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>>91291851
sounds plausible I guess
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the new MV doesn't seem to be getting much traction for Marine's standards
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>>91291851
This is absolute bullshit, anon. Koyori has been supportive, part of this new PLANNED PowerPro arc is that it's 3 people who know fuck all about baseball, and each of them have a coach who played it previously. Koyori spent hours on Marine's stream helping her learn the game when she started, and they spent most of the time laughing. Stop making up shit for no reason.
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>>91294757
If she isn't upset why did she completely ignore Marine's sololive?
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>>91294177
It's a CGI dance video for one of the b-side tracks, it was never going to do as well as the lead singles.
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FNS tonight

it's weird that they're going to show a vod of a live event from days ago. I thought the conceit of that show was that everyone was performing live
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>>91294904
EOP...
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>>91294904
Depens on what you meant with "ignore". She mentioned it plenty of times on her Koyo morning.
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>>91297205
It's actually really clever. Show the mainstream JP masses just how much of a big deal vtubers are now, to sell out a 20k venue (twice), the super fucking high level production and Marine's incredible quality as a performer.
I guarantee you there will be people watching FNS that will see that short performance and will question what they think they know about vtubers, some will even look Marine and Hololive up, and some will fall into the rabbit hole like the rest of us.
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>>91290397
>>91291618
KYS catalog reader
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>>91294904
Retard
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A translated version of Mio's thoughts on the sololive if anyone is interested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFMusvZC5L0

Not sure if there are any more translated reactions yet
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipFerdDlRoA

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>>91304156
*oricon
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>>91297731
>>91300704
Point out what makes me an "EOP and a "retard".

>>91298122
She mentioned it when it was announced that that was it. There was no reason to mention it again there but she always posts supporting comments on twitter and didn't for Marine.
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Finally an /ahoy/ thread reaching bump limit, are we back?
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>>91308834
I doubt it, but if Marine starts streaming regularly we have a chance
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