HoloEN got fucking decimated
>>91245426Who?I only watch Advent and Justice btw
>>91245426Fauna is the only one I will really miss, mostly because of her feet and voice. Mumei too because she's her friend.
>>91245524No you don't sis.
What is this gay shit
>>91245426>the ones people like eventually burn out and die>we are left with mori, kiara, kroni and baefuck vtubers man
>>91245426And nijiEN got fucking raped lmao
>>91245426Looks fine to me.
>>91245426Dont care Advent literally saved HoloEN and ill keep watching them over these shitters.
>>91245426-10% is decimated educate yourself
>>91245426>says something got decimated>more than 1/10th of it is goneAnon your math reps?
>>91245426cross mori out she's pandering to jp bro's now
>>91245698your shallow ass like doesn't compare to devotion of actual supporting fans it seems
>>91245765anon it's -20% and 20% more don't stream. That said, I find it incredibly funny that council was 5, got shrunk to 4, and then they made Promise with 5, which shrunk to 4 anyways.
>no NY concert for the homos>blue fag and groom bullet missing from the EXPO schedule>Astel literally admitting that Cover gave too much shit to their branch and made them lazy>nijiEN everythingFuck off, subhuman.
>>91245426Only he shitters and cali are left. Mumei is lazy af so forget about her
Sana doesn't even get an X portrait, huh
>>91245426Ok but why is Ina a questionmark? We all know exactly what happened to her and why she can't be around right now.
>>91246020Because this thread was made by a subhuman obsessed with shitposting about holoEN.
>>91245917Where did this retarded idea that stars fans are holo antis? Even youtube overlap shows them lean heavily towards hololive over any other group. You're chasing ghosts, anon. This is just a drama shitter who probably doesn't watch anyone.
>>91245426tbf Myth and Council lasted long considering they had to deal with Omega, wait 2 years and 2 staren gens before Advent finally came to the rescue
>>91245651nta, but i do
>>91245902OP you're retarded
>>91245902no, you idiotthey're not only saying only 10% are gonethey're saying you used the word "decimate" wrong"decimate" means "remove one tenth", or 10%.it's right there in the word: "deci" means 0.1.
>>91245426Why is Gura crossed?
>>91245426Advent and Justice have more sovl than present day Myth/Promise combined so I don't care.
>>91245426Shouldn't Bae be JP as well. Cone on, false flag anon, you can do better
>>91246201When it's been proven time and time again that the overlap between homo fans and niji sisters is almost a perfect circle especially when every fucking time something bad happens with those faggots you subhumans intensify your holoEN shitposts. Fuck off and kill yourself.
>>91245725>It was an inside job Kek
>>91246281You're right, I forgot that subtracting 1 from 9 is equal to 1/10. My bad. You didn't even pick the right definition. Fucking nobody these days uses decimate to denote 10%.>>91246363>>91246281I wasn't even the original anon.
>>91245978Sana didn't even last a year and was checked out for half of it. Including her would only be slightly less of a meme than ALOE LOVE. Astrogirl is a nice song though
>>91246373Niji wishful thinking
>>91246470Oh, you're just schizophrenic. I'm sorry. Carry on with your blind, unfounded hatred instead of directing it towards the actual guilty party, I guess.
>>91246602holy ESL I forgot the sun was coming up in SEA
>>91246726Ironic.Good luck on your studies. Maybe one day you'll actually be allowed into a country with working toilets.
>>91245426Do you believe in karma?
>>91246363So you're saying EN got more than decimatedAre you a nijisister?
>>91247029Which way are you asking?
>>91246704>instead of directing it towards the actual guilty partyYeah, Cover for creating the homo branch in the first place and letting subhumans like you think you're part of the fanbase.
>>91245426Mori is JPKiara is JPBae is JPKronii is a bitch
>>91247139You are a sad little man who likely doesn't even watch the girls to begin with. Maybe get off 4chan for a bit and touch streams.
>>91247029If karma exists, sites like these with it's users wouldn't survive this long, anon.
>>91245765>>91245902>>91246281>>91246602>>91246726OP here.Somehow, when I made this thread, I had a flashback of two niggers arguing over my misuse of the word "decimated".I'm glad to see my dreams come true.
>>91245631>Mumei too because she's her friend.>doesn't even bother to collab with herlol
>>91247139b-b-b-based
>>91247228>who likely doesn't even watch the girls to begin withThe projection is strong with this one.
>>91245698Yeah, shit is just unfair
>>91247196>Mori is JPShe does more EN streams and collabs than any of your lazy whores>Kiara is JPShe does more EN streams and collabs than any of your lazy whores>Bae is JPShe does more EN streams and collabs than any of your lazy whores>Kronii is a bitchAnd the ones who don't stream aren't?
>>91247358Ah, you're from /#/. That explains everything.Have fun with your little horse race or whatever it is you plan on doing over there when you're not shitting on vtubers.
>>91247238Maybe you should start believing in karma and holomems would stop graduating
>>91245426>crossing Gura instead of using a question mark>leaving out Advent and JusticeThis is how I know you are falseflagging Nijisister>"G-Gura has soft graduated!"She has been announced for HoloFES in March. Just because she take huge absences =/= she's gone.
>>91245917>Homos out of nowhereCock starved.
Shit thread.Anyone posting after me is Aster deflecting.
>>91247634You faggots every single fucking day make shitty threads about holoEN graduations, Gura graduations, whatever holo graduations but the moment someone points out how much of a failures the homos are you start crying about "muh cock". Do the world a favor and fucking shove a glock down your throat.
>>91245426MORE
>>91247451I started believing in karma and doing good things the past 2 hours. The cancer of vtubing, EN is getting purged. Karma is real!
Bae is a JP too
>>91245524FPBP
>>91248063Ah so you're a last samurai. There's only one fate fit for your type. Pic related.
>>91247451>heckin’ karma will save DA BOOOOIZ>karma will avenge NijiEN!>etc, etcSame old weaklings relying on vapors.
>>91247945lmao
You know, it's both funny and ironic that it was long believed on 4chan that Kronii would be among the first to graduate and/or be the less committed to Hololive, yet she's both stuck around as long as she has and is one of the most consistent streamers in HoloEN.
>>91249574>long believedIf you were the type who only knew of Kronii because you hung out in the bait threads screaming how she was a tranny for years until she wasn't maybe
>>91245426Only the strongest will survive
>>91250313Well yeah, I wouldn't consider her actual fans to be so pessimistic about her longevity.
>>91245785historicalkill one in every ten of (a group of soldiers or others) as a punishment for the whole group.
>>91245426Good, the rest needs to go.
>>91246373schrodinger shark
>>91245426>OP so faggot that even if the bait is already good enough need to X gura.Any more proof this is nijisis?
>>91245917>Homos out of nowhere>Bait with pic that literally has “content is not finalized” and spergs shit about itYes, bait so bad can only come from Nijisis.
>>91245426It makes me wonder if cover are gonna edit the contracts and make it clear you must move to japan and assimilate into japanese culture. Something not every EN could do or wanted to do. Cover since going public must have successfully applied to the japanese goverment for work visa status credibility. So they can now issue foreign talents japanese work visas as contracted employees. I remember it was a big deal mori got her visa back in the day. Because cover at the time was not eligible to apply for that program yet and the tokyo goverment wasnt making it easy for her or cover.
>>91245426now post the other two gens that are doing just fine
Its a good start.The damage HoloEN has done to western vtubing is something that it will never recover from, it gave the idea that vtubing should be entirely idol focused and most people's idea of idol shit seems to boil down to no men, dozens upon dozens of copycats(most of them dying now), and the worst, most sycophantic cocksucking fans I never seen in my entire life, I have never seen in my life people so married to a fucking brand quite like holofags are, christ the Fauna "outrage" lasted days, then everyone convinced themselves everything is fine.Someone needs to faint onstage or straight up die for holofags to maybe consider that not everything is perfect with them.Sadly they'll always be this stain upon vtubing, Advent and Justice are to fresh, Myth and Promise could all graduate and some remnant of EN will remain, the only thing that will end Hololive will be Cover making some huge mistake, and seeing as they come out smelling like roses from EVERY SINGLE FUCK UP, I don't see that happening anytime soon.
>>91246020>Ok but why is Ina a questionmark? We all know exactly what happened to her and why she can't be around right now.Anon do you really believe that management "forgot" to renew her work visa which somehow only delayed her 3D live? I am not saying there will be any more graduation announcements but the past several months have been absurdly fishy. Cover is lying to us about a lot of stuff.
>>91252956Management forgot to pay for the EN minecraft server back in the day and Ina couldn't log into it. I don't put anything past them.
>>91245917>Idolshit Don't care
>>91253133Nice opinion, but what does that change?
>>91245524NOOOOOOO YOU CANT WATCH THEM YOU STUPID INCEL NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE VTUBERS THAT HATE THE CHUDS NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Advent and Justice continue to show that they are the better EN gens
>>91247271That's a flashforward
>>91245426>jpFuck off ennacuck
>>91247945Calm down sister
>>91246281>The American government triple decimates you every yearGrim
>>91253186Those hate you too chud don't worry
>>91247089no, fuck nijibut alsouse words right
>>91253972Don't worry, soon all the actual streamers will get pushed out and we'll have nothing but idols too busy to stream and leeches too lazy to stream. Streamwatchers get fucked, it's time to buck up and buy concert tickets or fuck off.
>>91247945Because literally nobody cares if they are failing or not, they are shit just by existing you fucking mongoloid
>>91245426I really hate Ina and her fans
>>91247089DODECAMATED!
>>91245426what happened to Niji this time
>>91247271retard
>>91245426Reminder that Ina, Mumei and Gura can't graduate for at least another year.
>>91245631You won't be missed, sapling.
>>91245426why is Gura crossed out? She just streamed like yesterday you stupid faggot. IRyS streams constantly and not in JP. The only conclusion is OP is an utter moron and should KTS
>>91256904it's a prediction of 2 weeks from now
>>91245426*Myth an Promise got decimated.
>>91256937ah yes, I should have known!
>>91245698>The streamers leave after actual work shows up>We are only left with idols who want to do their best to preform for usHow horrible
>>91258019>actual work that you'll only see for a few hours out of a year while they continue to not stream. Anon...
>>91245426>more than an entire gen worth of people are grayed outEverything is fine.
how did people like fauna, her voice is like nails on challboard to me
>>91258222she's funny and comfy. Same reason people like Raora.
>>91258222Is that you, Fuminori?
>>91252937>straight up dieOokami Mio almost actually died apparently. I dont know the specifics, something about her "tummy" which could be something relatively simple and benign like appendicitis or a minor ulcer, to something more serious like major stomach ulcer bleeding, liver problems or a failing pancreas. Those tend to return so itd be a matter of time before she dies for real or graduates for health reasons like Chloe.
>>91260668She actually specified the cause in one of her return streams. It sounded bad, but there was a lot of medical jargon that I didn't quite get.
>>91260668>>91260930>mio dyingThis the next rrat? make threads, now!
God I wish Bae had been Gigi instead.
westoids literally killed vtubing, I don't watch niji but the fat chink killed her corpo and now Holo is next because "lazy whore good, management bad" your commie ass might think that's a good thingbut oh boy have fun with your average indie Twitch thot, idol dreams are over, woke western fans killed the dream
>>91245426Gura crossed out after her member's stream and is listed as a performer for HoloFes. Opinion ignored.
>>91245426Advent-Justice watching chad here...I think things are going fine.
>>91245426shoot the one under ina with a .50
>>91245698>the ones with awful fans who shit on other vtubers constantly grow to hate their audience and are eager to ditch them>the girls that actually like their fans staySeems like a you problem
Isn't it funny how Fauna's supposed "friends" didn't even bother to show up for collabs?
>>91247271The word you're looking for is vision.
Come home western males
>>91256537God the things I'd do to Aki. Unspeakable, ungodly things.
>>91261571Hold still while I draw a bead
>>91258222Her voice normalized over time. I'm waiting for biboo's voice to normalize as well
>>91245426Jesus it's literally the worst of the worst left
>>91245426As it should’ve been for years now.
>>91246244Council only got a foot in the door at all because of Omegatroon
>>91264303>>>/jp/
>>91245698What about IRyS?
>>91261742>the ones with awful fans who shit on other vtubersthat would be all of them. don't kid yourself
>>91245426I think Fauna and Mumei should have sex desu
>>91263046No, I think I'll bring them here.
>>91261571This but both
>>91245698please don't lump Bae and IRyS with them
>>91245426Myth is pretty old at this point and council was always meh, its not the end of the world for them to recline since we have Advent and Justice now.
>>91252579So how should 3D recording be done?Build a studio in USA?Expensive cameras, security guards to protect the studio, building rental feesIt costs a tremendous amount of money.A studio in AME? Video recording at home?In that case, you have to fly the “paid concert staff” mentioned below to USA and pay for their accommodations.If you record in Japan, their transportation costs are $20 since they all live in TOKYO.Dance Lesson InstructorDance choreography instructor with expressive dance choreography for the productionCameramanDirector of paid concert productionGeneral producer of the paid concertTraditionally, performers were called by plane.I assume that the cost burden was “the cover company's burden if requested by the company” or “the performer's burden if the performer was in charge (e.g., birthday concert?)”. I assume that the cost was borne by the performer if the performer was in charge (e.g., birthday concert).Still, it was more cost-effective than building a studio overseas.Since Japan has a housing subsidy system that is advantageous for corporate tax purposes, there is a possibility that the company will subsidize a percentage of the apartment rent through a “rental company housing system” that the company can write off as an expense when coming to Japan.My guess is that EN members who want to take dance lessons would want to live in Japan.
>>91258113Go watch twitch then
OP is a fag but the fact so many people reply they just watch Advent and Justice is telling on the state of Myth and Council. Makes you appreciate IRyS more too.
>>91245426GNAA (gaynigger from outerspace)
>>91263046My Kobo isn't even there man.
>>91269843I gotta be honest with you, the 3D content is some of my least favorite. It is usually paywalled or streamed at very inconvenient hours. If my fav EN never did another 3D stream I'd be fine with it.
>>91269843you are correct im not saying its a bad thing im just expressing my hunch as to whats gone down since cover went public
I assume the management's attitude is this.“Streaming is advertising.”“3D concerts, merchandise sales, and general corporate product advertising support Cover's sales.”“The way to promote this is through the daily distribution of each performer.”Therefore, those who do not stream are not advertising the company, but rather transmitting negatively.I don't think I would give preferential treatment to anyone who disagrees with the second “business model that actually generates revenue.”Predictions for the futureThose who are enthusiastic about the business plan in MYTHThose who are enthusiastic about the business plan in PROMISEadvent, justiceen5genI think the management has a policy to work hard with this number of people and to keep those who quit until the contract period.I believe that the California cover company's office is probably a “sales office”.Since it will be the center for more business meetings with North American sponsors, en5gen will probably hire highly responsible performers who can advertise the products of general companies.I would not be surprised if MYTH and PROMISE cut their numbers in half.Before ADVENT came in, it was a gen with little streaming time. It also looks to me like a gen with a small percentage of people who agree with the business plan of the operation.Half the number of people of en1gen and en2gen.Later generations after en3genYou don't have to be an operation to come up with a plan for this number of people.
>>91260668Her pancreas exploded iirc.
>>91270289Most of the EN lives have been at 7 or 8 PM PST though? >paywallThat's a (You) problem for either not being able to afford them or not being able to find the free restreams
>>91269904I won't have a choice if the girls who actually stream keep leaving.
>>91245426how the hell does Kronii of all people lasted longer than /vt/ darling Fauna
>>91252937This is a lot of words for ligger seethe
>>91266653They already did, that is why Kronii hates Fauna now (she still wants to get with Mumei tho)
>>91263046Their accent is a dealbreaker for me, but they are all sweet and wonderful
>>91270534A blue superchat has been deposited in your account
>>91246539oh no no no no.mp3
>>91245426IRyS is no more JP than Mori at this point
>>91245426I only watch advent
>>91270978He literally told you to pirate it then you little bitch
>>91245426>4 (OP's shitpost)>5 (Advent)>4 (Justice)>13 talents, which is not a multiple of 10Only three more graduations and we can say that HoloEN was decimalized like the pound.
>>91245426I think you are forgetting the new gens.
>>91253090>forgot to pay for the ENYeah totally. "Forgot".Honestly how can I apply to be in Hololive management?
>>91272374Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence
>>91272402You have to start to wonder when it seems for a long, long time EN was getting the shaft, dispite them/Gura being a huge boon to Cover as a whole.
I think EN5gen will be a broad recruitment, including ex-nexas and others.The area that Cover thinks is understaffed right now in the delivery timeframe is the “Atlantic Coast” region from Western Europe to Eastern NA.France, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Algeria, Morocco, Puerto Rico, UK.I feel that vtubers from these countries are more likely to be hired.Canada and USA, I think New Yorkers from Toronto or New Yorkers would have an advantage.In these time zones, the current cover company has a lot of graduates and deactivated people.“Singing ability”“Talking ability.”“Good at the game.”Applicants from this area will be hired if they possess two of these threeThe number of registered PLs is not a factor in the hiring decision.
>>91272402>Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetenceStatements said by those committing malice so they can have an excuse.You're a dumbass.
>>91272904>Cover>caring about EST ever7PM deadhours is a holoEN staple and you don't mess with what works.
>>91273101The time period in which gura, fauna, and mumei excel is the time period in which the cover company hololive is thinnest after January.Even if they have not graduated, many of them are on hiatus.After two hours from there, this is the time zone in which the main members of holoEN are good at after January 2025.Thus, EN5gen favors applicants from Atlantic coastal countries.
>>91245426And above all, orange and pink womans have proven themselves despite getting most of the hate.
>>91270534>Most of the EN lives have been at 7 or 8 PM PST though?Not him, but I'm EST so that means 10 or 11PM for me. Doable but not ideal.Anyone further east (i.e. all of Europe) gets fucked.
>>91245426You obviously don't watch streams.
>>91245426>kiara is not goneawful
>>91245765>>91246281No one uses that definition of decimate you retarded ESL faggot. I can tell you saw the word and had to google it.
>>91273368does it count if you create your own problems
>>91245426>the ones with male yabs are all that remainsgargantuan kek
>>91245426Good thing there are four EN gens now.
>>91273325Those dead hours is what drove me to watch Nijisanji, Phase, and a few of the smaller companies. Found a few new girls that way. Cover really left a gapping hole during prime hours. Sit down to eat dinner and can't find a single Holo streaming. Even Kaela naps during those hours. A handful of times Polka saved the day, but it's tough.
>>91273839Yes, it is.That is why the cover company should be looking for someone who will be in charge of that time slot with the highest priority in en5gen.Singing ability, talking ability, and game sense.Anyone possessing two of these three will be hired.Those who possess one of these three could also be hired.Other companies are concerned about “the number of subscribers an applicant has before joining” in their hiring decisions.However, COVER does not care if the number of subscribers is around 3,000.
>>91273751/vt/ wrong about everything as always
>>91274244EN5 would be a terrible move at this point. ReGloss and Flow Glow have barely been making gains. The EN market has been losing interest, they are ready to move onto the next thing. They could gamble on an ES branch or something but I don't see it with the expense. People were crying they wanted EN4 and now that its here, they are yelling they want EN5 when noone from EN4 has crossed 450k subs yet. Myth and Council needed to carry momentum and it died 2 years ago.
After Ina, Mumei, and Gura graduate, what will the new combined gen of Myth+Promise composed of Calli, Kiara, IRyS, Kronii, and Bae be called?
>>91274635This is mostly true. Cover really needs to just put the existing members into timeslots. Ina and Fauna were the early streamers. One is not reliable and the other is leaving.
>>91274635ReGloss and Flow Glow are business models that make money from paid concerts.You look at Superchat and think “they don't make money”, but you need to look at the long term because they are a dance unit.As you can see from the financial results, streaming revenue is not a large part of sales.Paid concerts and ad sponsorship “commerce” are the biggest.This is a business model that will take off after Flow Glow goes 3D.ReGloss is doing very well, with raden's mushroom dance being selected as Japan's Internet Buzzword of the Year for 2024.Perhaps the hololive device will sell out venues of 10,000 people if they do paid concerts.
>>91274878pioneerlegendThere may be a possibility of combining two terms around here
>>91261159And after seeing this, people still try to convince me that holofags and nijisisters are supposed to be enemies? Fuck off.
>>91270534>bro i'm rich and you're notCool. Nobody cares, faggot.
>>91275105pee gen(d)also, "Pioneer" is already claimed
>>91275008Ahhh, my Twitch rotted brain can't comprehend success outside of stream numbers....
>>91275601Which is fair, because the main reason most EN fans watch is because of streams. There's a weird wave of idol mania sweeping cons in the US right now because it's women trying to emulate what they think is making Holo so popular. I can't argue that the idol side of things doesn't set them apart, but it's not the main reason EN fanbases are here. They're here for streams from talents they like, and collabs, and going to the concerts is just a form of 'supporting their favorites'.
>>91278396>idol mania sweeping cons in the US right nowInteresting. I predicted that idol culture may grow in the US over the next four years, and with it, a revived /co/ landscape. Now all we need is a really good US animation voiced by idols/idol alumni as well as a breakout /mu/ hit on the US Top 40.
>>91274878>Ina & Gura>GraduateI know you think they're washed out, bit its far from the truth. Especially for Gura, who is focusing more on idol reps. You need to realize that, and esp in Gura's case, streaming no longer matters to her.>>91275601At least you admit that you're in a bubble, unlike that anon. Like dev_is, I think Gura is being primed for more idol reps, which means less streams and more singing & dancing. Which sucks for most chumbuds, but it would advance Hololive and vtubing in the future.
>>91279372It's moreso that there are more women both clout chasing the idol tagline with no effort past 'pay me money for being your cute idol!' or the smaller group of FWMC/Kiara-likes that have always existed in the EN/NA scene. The explosion at cons is because it's a nicer, softer version of Onlyfans for these women. Pre-Holive, there were genuine fans and it showed because there were maybe 1 or 2 panels or shows that would exist. Now they're becoming swamped with these women trying to ride the bus.
>>91245426Why is gura crossed out?
>>91279942She all but confirmed her impending graduation in her latest stream. Not necessarily happening soon, but she's almost completely checked out.
>>91280004Will have to grab a membership to hear what she said, unless there is a reupload?
>>91280004She confirmed nothing. Don't make things up.
>>91274878ResidualIt sounds fancy but pretty much means leftovers.
>>91280048She never said anything to that, fucker is just being a nijisister anti trying to "meme" a graduation. Its as >>91280054said. Its made up.>>91280004"Two more weeks," right? Go fuck yourself, sister. Ywnbaw, cope seethe and dilate.
>Fauna tapping out>Kronii still chugging along
>>91280677Exactly why I asked for the reupload, you know these faggots would have clips and vod reuploads if there was anything of value for their campaign in there
>>91279831I'm fine with that. More competition means only the truly best will stand out.
>>91280745it's on ruby
>>91245524Hello with the CEO of BASED
>>91280993On who?
