Why do they treat Nijisanji like this?
>>91565613kek
I can't believe I'm 20 years older than these people
>>91565613wtf twitch is based??
>>91565613faggoons can only brag at winning rigged awards, kuzuha and riku are still miles above their fat, sewersliding oshit. numbers dont lie.
>>91565613They remember how Nijisanji treated the workers who made Riku rich.
>>91565613Handing Nijisanji Ls is a common trait, you'd think Nijisisters would be used to it by now.It is by their kindness which let's AnyColor even keep their name because Nijisanji keeps taking their L and without the charity of the chat giving them those Ls back they'd just be AnyCoor.
>>91565613ask elira.
Wait, did nijisister really believed that the hate was fake?
>>91568313Do you really believe they would not try to psyop it was fake?
doki_laugh.mp4
>>91565613They're just reminiscing about Nijisanji's moment of the year
>>91569425kek
Because they fucking deserve it, no cap.
>>91565613>Niji taking Ls again>Archnemesis False hostingHeh check out Bint's tweets, she is SEETHING
>>91565613deserved
>>91565613Cringe chat
>>91569612>she
>>91565613Based chat
>>91580752Sorry, *it* is SEETHING
>>91569425>Doki didn't want this>said she still had friend there>this
>>91566122>>91566985NIJISEETHE
>>91566908>>91565945>>91567402>>91567978>>91575810rent free vt
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>>91582824I just realized there's a huge likelihood that our shitposting likely was screencapped and made multiple NijiNigs seethe
>>91575810Shut up
>>91565613context what was being shown?
>>91588233tokyo ghoul kazuha
>>91588233Teh chat whenever niji or niji organs was shown during the Filian awards
>>91565613BASED
>>91565613Lmfao
>>91565613why not?
>>91565613I see no problem here.
>>91583029They lurk everywhere. Their biggest past time is to report on 2-10 reply messages from X and make a big shit post about it here.
>>91591974Do they really? I'd imagined they'd be too busy with all their streaming and Niji events
>>91591974that sounds realistic, funny how I likely pissed off many of them. Never held back>>91592114you're thinking of holo
>>91565613Is there any other way to treat them outside of thair streams in the first place now?
>>91565613>70% female fansBased, twitch always hate on women
>>91565613Nijis no longer have any rights
>>91580904She kept bring it up tho, and every niji that’s left has done the exact same shit thing to get the same sympathy Doki got. She lead by example
>>91592310Didn't she perform her last cup of coffee in her concert today?
>>91580904is rosemi and petra still her friend?
>>91565613KWAB
>>91565613am i supposed to get the context of this
>>91592382why wouldn't they be?for understandable reasons neither party will talk about the other
I'm fairly new to vtubing so don't know the full Selen story, never watched her or and Nji, but I don't see how blaming, boycotting, shitting on any streamer who works there proves anything. It was the staff who were in the wrong, correct?
>>91594505Her coworkers (the ones who were shown in the clips) were the ones who harassed her
>>91594505The livers themselves have demonstrated time and time again that they're horrible people. Not only does management foster an environment that encourages them to fight each other for limited resources but the livers themselves are willing participants. The black stream actually had a successful first test in the form of Zaion's termination in which three of her genmates each had a lengthy segment throwing her under the bus on her way out
>>91594505That was the general consensus before they had the brilliant idea to do the black stream.
>>91592375She did. It was actually Mint's idea. They absolutely crushed it, too. Most of the dragoons were in tears. Mint is an evil, evil woman. Also note how these dorks are so goddamn short that they can't reach the floor while sitting
>>91594505Watch this:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o65VwnQvWW4
>>91594765It really is amazing that they could’ve easily piggybacked off of Riku’s statement (until thE NEGLIGIBLE leak happened, maybe) because Selen wasn’t specific. Then, out of sheer Hanamori brilliance, they chose to go after him, painting themselves as the culprits.
>>91594893I still can't believe that someone actually thought this was a good idea
>>91594505The main problem with this was the termination notice, which implied out of nowhere that she was being harassed by other livers. Before that point, we just assumed her issues were with management.Then, people started wondering which organs were the ones who caused issues for her, and then the people in the black stream outed themselves (Ike, Vox, Elira, Enna, Millie at bare minimum). Considering how spotless Selen's record was before the termination, and how incredibly popular she was among everyone she's met over the years outside of the company, it was very difficult to take Niji's word over hers.
>>91582824What happened in this stream?
>>91594556>>91594653>>91594765Fair enough. I don't know what sort of harassment happened or who instigated it.>>91594893Without knowing the real story I doubt I would really get how bad it is, unless they straight up shit on her. But I'm guessing they knowingly go along wit the lie about the reason she was fired.
>>91595007>Without knowing the real story I doubt I would really get how bad it is, unless they straight up shit on her.And that's what they did.
>>91594893>>91595007for the record, that's not the whole story.You have to watch the black screen stream alongside Doki's neopets stream to get the full story. They counterprogrammed her with this, even delaying it by half an hour when Doki said she'd be late by that amount. This was the very first scheduled stream she'd ever made, so they knew exactly when she'd be live days in advance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YCUbQOJB0Watching both of them live was absolutely vile.
>>91595007They didn’t hold back. Vox’s case is especially egregious, given his postulations.
>>91594893>I love you elira>You got this!>Niji love!>Wait what>this is scripted>calm down y'all be respectful>no way>why are you doing this>stop>no no no no>FUCK YO>BLACK COMPANY>SINK THE YACHT>L>L>L>L
>>91595121Even in memes he is forgotten...
>>91595151
>>91595151>>91595208Anyone hear a crinkling water bottle?
>>91594904"negligible" happened before Riku's apology video, so if it wasn't for the black screen stream, it would have been possible to spin Riku's apology as him admitting that the company fucked up and was sorryit's absolutely mind boggling how both management AND SOME OF THE LIVERS THEMSELVES thought it was a good idea to do that stream. it's like shooting a wound right before you put a band-aid on it. absolute retardation
>>91595054>>91595024Okay, I underestimated how fucked it is. My mistake. I won't question the hate again. How people still watch them is beyond me.
>>91595287I always forget the order of events. Yeah, in that sequence, they likely only had to not light themselves ablaze like Icarus’ wax wings.This is also another core reason people consider Elira to be management, as it seems downright petty and she was once again at center stage.
>>91582824:)
>>91595288Yeah, it was really fucked because when she came back in her return stream, which I think was the same day as the termination notice, she was just fucking tired of everything and wanted to just do her best to move on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2YmJL0PX5MEveryone was expecting her to do some gigantic scorched earth on Niji, but instead she sounded exhausted and said she was happy that more than like 40 people showed up and talked about what kind of future plans she was thinking of and what she was talking about with people who've been helping her. ...Then she yapped about Warrior Cats for like 20 minutes and ended it with "I don't plan on talking about it. Anything that happens will be between lawyers." She completely shut down all dramafags with that in the most hilariously doki way possible. She made everything clear (that she wasn't planning on fighting back or doing anything, and that while she's glad she's out, she just wants to focus on rebuilding rather than revenge), and then a week later the black stream/neopets thing happened out of nowhere because Nijisanji was fucking terrified of her. It was clearly an attempt to get her to crack on stream and say something stupid or emotional, and it nearly worked.
>>91595288I think it’s natural to question anything, but it’s likewise very difficult to defend the organs after they did this.>>91595407>hi 4channers>she’s /here/My favorite part was the NDF running interference amidst that shitshow, claiming they were only simulating dicksword, only for the very first message to prove them wrong.
>>91595288>How people still watch them is beyond me.The only ones watching them are either die hard fans of the company, fangirls of the boys who believe Doki is a grifter who tricked everyone, or people who hate the company and most of its talents but still want to support their oshi until they graduate and leaveHowever, none of these groups are particularly large, and they utterly despise each other. As a result, the branch has fallen into complete irrelevance and become the punching bag of the entire community
>>91565613Because they deserver it
>>91582824There's always a problem with lolcows doing this which is the people they want to "insult" probably never see this except from when his fans complain about their organs giving more attention to their haters than their fans, which only serves to embolden trollsAka random 4ch subhumans living rent free for no reason in some vtubing morons head
1 year Black stream anniversary kekw
>>91594893Up until this point all the hate was directed solely towards Riku and management. After this video everybody in the branch bled subs and it continues to this day. Dumbest PR move in vtubing history.
>>91594505There were rumors all along that a certain privileged clique existed in the branch that was getting favorable treatment, but we just got little hints here and there. It wasn't until the unexpected graduation of Pomu and the extremely surprising termination of Selen that we got some clues into it. What seems to have happened is that Nijisanji was so stingy and so incompetent that rather than hiring appropriate mangers, they were just handing management off to some friend-of-the-company who wanted a feather in his cap. The talents themselves were effectively running the branch. Particularly the talents who could speak Japanese, such as Elira who is diasenpai of the whole branch.She got to hire a bunch of her friends into the branch, and formed a nasty clique which got special treatment by management.Girls who were outside the clique were systematically mistreated. Pomu should have been the star of their show, their flagship girl, and yet she was treated like yesterday's lunch and discarded. Selen faced such an escalating series of incidents that she started documenting and recording things, preparing a big lawsuit against the company. On christmas eve, Selen tried to post a cover which was struck down by management. That was the last straw for her. She told her fans to reupload the cover and got terminated. While she was in the hospital for a suicide attempt, management served her a termination notice and hijacked her twitter to cover it up. They kept her termination a secret for a month while they hastily rushed out Selen merch and voicepacks for some last minute profits. When Selen started streaming again as Doki, there was a massive reception. She was getting like 50k ccv due to the drama surrounding the incident. Apparently Elira felt jaded and butthurt, because she was used to being in control. As the queen of NijiEN, going through her was supposed to be the only avenue a struggling indie had, since holo auditions were rare events. This caused her to release the Black Stream, timed specifically to overlap Doki and cause maximum damage. In their litle discord circlejerk they actually thought this was a good idea.
>>91565613Because le funny joke part of the meme time on get on the bandwagon.
>>91598323> Selen faced such an escalating series of incidents that she started documenting and recording things, preparing a big lawsuit against the company.Selen recorded conversations to cover her own ass just in case because she knew the company could fuck her over at any time, but there's no indication she wanted to go on the offensive. She had plans for 2024, the Last Cup of Coffee MV was an homage to the branch and every single one of her coworkers, and she only even mentioned the recordings as a last resort when the company refused to let her graduate and instead tried to force her to publicly apologize for the MV drama>On christmas eve, Selen tried to post a cover which was struck down by management. That was the last straw for her. She told her fans to reupload the cover and got terminated. While she was in the hospital for a suicide attempt, management served her a termination notice and hijacked her twitter to cover it up. They kept her termination a secret for a month while they hastily rushed out Selen merch and voicepacks for some last minute profits. There isn't any indication of this either. Selen got suspended right after her suicide attempt, and then management spent an entire month trying to get her to play ball, apologize for her actions, and swear that she wouldn't cause any more problems going forward. They probably only started considering the termination route when they realized Selen wasn't going to cooperate and got scared she might go public with the harassment accusations
>>91582824Hoe does someone go through with something like this without realizing the utter irony of it?
>>91598682>There isn't any indication of this either."No indications" even though they were editing her out of official artworks?
>>91598791Anon, that artwork was for the Anime Impulse panel, and they had already canceled Selen's appearance
Nijisanji is winning. The autistic screeching of Westoid trannies is irrelevant. The EN market was already dying before Dookie faked a suicide anyway.
>>91598866Hololive never bothered with the value of their stock. Still outclassing Nijisanji. Embarrassing
>>91598866kek
>>91594893Watching chat go from hearts and stuff to slurs and L's is the funniest shit ever.
>>91598756Has to be a anti falseflagging as a sister to make them seem even more retarded and deranged
>>91592375>>91594870Nice empty concert Dookieturds. There's 200 people there at best kek. Akina held a concert with 10k+ the other day.
>>91599037You say that like it's unexpected for nijiniggers to act retarded
>>91599037Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. It's just some retard farming for (You)s. The only exception is the Dokischizo, but he's way easier to spot.
>>91595007https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noshvgz4iwIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnYwHyAtV3A&t=3s
>>91582824>RENT LFREEbased retard
What went wrong? She's doing worse than when she was at Niji. I thought Niji was a debuff?
>>91599973Shitposter-kun, you need to try harder or at least remove the vods from special events like birthdays, anniversaries or the HoloNiji apex thing
>>91600115>you need to try harderWhy should he bother when you just gave him a free (you) so easily?
>>91600153Because I'm a shitposter myself
>>91600115
>>91600263It's so oove... wait. Isn't Doki an Indie? Massive fucking win.
>>91600512 (me)Also her debut stream would of killed that highest viewer tally. We all know it. How does that rank against the biggest thing Niji has done is more relevant and the most comparable closest event.
>>91565613Only subhumans like Niji
>>91600579>Also her debut stream would of killed that highest viewer tallyHighest and Avg. viewers on Playboard are calculated on the last 15 streams or so, not the entirety of the channel's life, so it's a metric useul only up to a certain point. Also it's useless to reply in good faith to the Dokischizo, just laugh at him and leave it at that.
>>91600512>>91600579>can't collab with holo (homos don't count)>cockblocked from any sponsors that choose to sponsor NijiEN instead>can't show up in any big JP events that invite Niji like Vsaikyo>mogged by her own past selfDookieturds... I don't feel so good
>>91580652>>91585922NIJISEETHE
>>91600755For calling other people leeches your attention on Holo collabs is very embarrassing.
>>91599120>has to cope with the few high ticket JPs kurokara has to hide the fact that EN is a dead dead branchthis isnt the own you think it is, sissy
>>91600036Man I remember when this format was still fresh.
>>91595151As he should be. I'm glad he lost Mister VTuber. That was the only award NijiEN had a shot at winning.
Nijisisters will…>Deny any accusations made against Nijisanji>Defend any decision made by Nijisanji>Depose anyone who calls out Nijisanji
>>91601079All of EN is dying tho, not just NijiEN. And Dookie is going to die together with it. She accelerated the process by making the EN vtuber scene a brown turd worlder dramanigger shitfest and shooing away normal people from the hobby.
>>91565613It made me proud of the vtuber community that we all tacitly agreed to only do this for Nijisanji. Everyone acted normally when Hololive, VShojo, Phase, indie, and small corpos were shown. Nijisanji is so hated literally everyone agreed that they're worse than every other EN corpo and uniquely deserve to to be driven out and ridiculed at every opportunity. Nijisanji is literally viewed as a cancer and stain on the EN vtuber scene by the average vtuber fan, and everyone wants them gone.
>>91602135You say that but nijisanji dying would actually be one of the biggest catastrophies in the vtubing industry. You know all those sisters that are watching that tumor? All of them would have to go somewhereHate them all you want but they contain all the cancer in vtubing, along with phase connect
>>91601960>All of EN is dying>holoEN is fine>small corpos are dying, or getting bought by brave>indies are inclining>vshojo is growing slowlyit's just nijien and the VC startup small corpos, sissy.
>>91565613Literally no one on the internet likes Kurosanji.Not TwitterNot TwitchNot YoutubeNot RedditNot 4chanNobodyIf the guy who was going to set them all on fire got away with it he would be as celebrated as Luigi is today.
>>91602203>sister making a threatmaybe you women should just get more productive hobbiesdon't worry i think BTS will be back soon from being ordered to coup on their capital LMAO
>>91601960>Dookie has destroyed vtubing by driving away Normies>Dookie rallied an army of normalfags to get her revenge on NijisanjiPick one.
>>91602697More like:>invited dramabrowns into the hobby>dramabrowns drive away all the white and east asian people away from the hobby with their monkey behavior>give normies a bad image of vtubing, they see all vtubing agencies as evil now and make no distinction between them Congrats Dookie and Dookieturds. You killed EN vtubing!
>>91602911>faze and amp, the peak of normiecore faggotry, have showed interest in collabing with vtubers this year>somehow EN vtubing is hated by normies according to nijisisters
>>91602252The doxxsite liked Niji before it was put down.
>>91598542Go back to molesting your colleagues Aster
>>91603165It was put down for a reason. Those "people" are the same parasites that threaten all of vtubing.
>>91598866>Dookie faked a suicide anyway.Noooo, she totally tried to kill herself twice but she failed two times. Whatever she says is true because Nijisanji is bad.
>>91598866>>91598933samefagging dokischizo, you aren't even a sister, why don't you show us all how it's done and kill yourself on the first try
>>91603467Uh oh Doki melty
>>91603557L
>>91603467You nigger I'm laughing AT the sisters and kurosanji
>>91595288>>91596178Nijisanji is still pretty big in Japan though not nearly as much as Hololive is. It's NijiEN that's floundering on all fronts.
>>91603970>though not nearly as much as Hololive isAbsolutely is. They showed slides in the financial report where the "main competitor" was smaller than them. Cope.
>>91604490Source on this financial report?
>>91602135BASED BASED BASED
>>91598866So true sis. All that matters is the stock holders
>>91565613Because no one likes Nijisanji outside of /vt/, it's embarrassing that Nijifags even engage in corpo tribalfagging on this board when they're so universally hated outside of it.
>>91569612oh you're right, why are they suddenly seething about phase anyway? phase are nobodies and they didn't even do anything last night other than sing. i thought bint was a wisp, surely they know lia is friends with mint
>>91606927>Japan doesn't exist nowThey are the only market that actually matters too and Dookie is hated there. EN vtubing is a dying fad that had its impending death accelerated by Dookie bringing brown turd worlders obsessed with drama into the scene.
It's funny how Sisters have gone from insisting Selen singlehandedly destroying Nijisanji to singlehandedly destroying Vtubing. It's like seeing a paranoid schizophrenic's delusions progressively grow ever more baroque and larger in scope in real time. How does one bird have all that power? Come next year she will have singlehandedly destroyed content creation as a whole.
>>91607131that’s entirely directed at filianthat tranny hates her with a passion
>>91607131>i thought bint was a wisp, surely they know lia is friends with mintsisters are known to impersonate people they hate to make them look bad. they bragged about flaseflagging as dragoons and whatever sayu's fans are called, it would be a surprise if they didn't falseflag as wisps.
>>91608373Why do you think Doki is the failure? She is just a talent. Nijisanji fucked up completely in how they handled everything. They are the ones that made the choice after all.
>>91598866>livestream revenue the lowest it's ever been>vast majority of profits are from merch>talents get 2% of that profitB-but look at our stocks!!! Please avert your eyes from the impoverished and starving livers!
>>91611765>livestream revenue the lowest it's ever beendemonstrably wrong>talents get 2% of that profitmerch figures include voice packs which is 50%
>>91598791Why did they leaved the gap between Rosemi and Petra was it too hard to place them close to each other?
>>91614252they did the same thing for the AR live. TONS of empty space since every single group was missing at least one person.
>>91610163nta but it's just funny to see them blame everything on Doki when they can't reflect that they're the problem lmao
>>91613725Anon, I-
>>91613725>merch figures include voice packs which is 50%Wow, a whole 5 bucksAnd their fanbase is a tiny amount of sisters who don't even watch the girlsThey're doing fine!!!
>>91565613They're hip
>>91565613I often take the opposite opinion of twitch chat
>>91582824seethe more nijisis, take the L harder.