Supposedly a white light tunnel appears with a love bomb and imposters in it like computer-generated Jesus, relatives, etc. The second we die, we have not yet gone into the white light tunnel but it soon detects that we are dead and opens up near us. But until we go in, what should we do to make sure we are alert and don't go into it? I was just thinking after death if we are mindful of what is going on, instead of calling on external saviors, including some hypothetical "higher self" who we don't know exists and who sits idly by while we suffer, we could try to remember all our past lives. Someone who works for the German government told me we've had nearly infinite past lives (this guy Tim who appears on shows on Gaia TV). He doesn't know if we've had infinite past lives or finite but nearly infinite he said. Ok, so surely if we remember all of them we can gain critical information which can save us, right? What other things should we do when we die? Brett Stuart's group remote viewing of moksha suggests dying at a 45° angle.
>>42436244Just a fun fact, the idea that Reincarnation happens the second we die is a western idk, originally it is thought that we wait a couple months or sometimes years Also TLDR, summarise this wall of text
>>42436257No the prison planet theorists believe the tunnel of light appears immediately and Ian Stevenson/Jim Tucker said we stay in the in-between stage for a few years usually but it can be longer. Robert Monroe tells us where most of us go — the Park, an astral world which is depicted accurately in the Italian movie Astral City as far as I know. It's a good movie I've seen it twice.>TLDRIs it enough to die at a 45° angle where helpers can throw down an astral rope and for good measure try to remember all your past lives or maybe I'm not aware that you can't remember your past lives. The 45° angle was in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcFr0_oqews where a remote viewer got together other remote viewers and they determined the only way to escape the aliens who imprisoned us here after a war is to die at 45°
Just be closed off to emotion. Literally be intellectually disgusted by it so that you’re not manipulated by it. Fuck trying to remember past lives you cannot verify that they’re accurate or worth anything. It’s just a trick to confuse you. I’d figure you should focus all your will on escaping and visualizing escaping.
>>42436577I mean does it follow us if we try turning around and flying away from it? Can we escape through the electric fence in the sky? Some say there are holes in the fence (I think it was Wes Penre). Icke says we can go through if we are high enough vibration. Can you meditate as a dead soul until you reach enlightenment? In Tibetan Buddhism they teach liberation right after death but idk if the light tunnel gets in the way.>Grid in the Sky video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHagWBRUYQ
>>42436658#Who can claim it with certainty?Supposedly consent is important. I’d mentally reaffirm that I am not subject to it. I would never directly communicate with it. I’m skeptical of Icke but I would see getting that high vibe as being a renunciation of the physical and the evils of the world and flesh and its creator. Make it so that you are repulsed (like a magnet).
>>42436577In life, after I insist I will not reincarnate, they get pissed. "What about your purpose? You fucking insect, you swine. You're going to hell." etc. Remember through the love-bombing that these are the same beings as every "demon" anyone has ever experienced, that you being in a body makes them comfortable enough to torture you, that your lack of a body makes you require more careful handling on their part. In that state, you could probably compress them with a thought into a point so fine that they become the densest thing in existence. Their only weapons against you are convincing you that you're powerless, or convincing you that they are a friend.
>>42436806Also remember that even if they stand aside and "let you leave", it's another con. They have a script like scammers, but they are also crafty at times. They might show you some stairs, be like "this is the exit, leave if you must" and just at the last second you might hear something like your mother calling your name. For most people, even those who desperately want to leave, when paired with an implanted emotion at the precise time, this is enough.Be wary of these fuckers, seriously. They could convince you the sky is red if you let them. I would just start killing them immediately, as soon as I see them.
>>42436853#Fairly good thinking. I wouldn’t trust the exit they present. Emotions are child’s play to ignore. Idk about killing them tho. My attention should be going away from them I think.
>>42436244Practicing what you will do immediately after death while meditating might have some merit.
>>42436244Death is simply a lucid dream state, practice.
>>42436244The hard part about this not knowing if you will be fully conscious post-death. So while you might have a plan worked out pre-death, you might be disorientated making resistance much more difficult post-death. This is probably why its a good idea to explore this state of consciousness using the gateway tapes if possible. Damnit, >>42437201 beat me to it with a simple tl/dr
>>42436244>But until we go inthe fuck you mean UNTIL? I ain't ever going in their evil re-incarnation trap>What other things should we do when we die? what you do is immediately focus on a far away place, maybe another galaxy, a fantasy world you always dreamed of, whateverbecause of the way spirit works, you suddenly start warping to that place and away from the light trap and any "loved one" archon imposters trying to suck you back down into hellwhat comes next is up to you --- you freed yourself
>>42436244How do you die at a 45° angle? You'd have to strap yourself into an inversion table or something and then shoot yourself in the head.
>>42436244Presumably, you take everything you've learned with you (since knowledge and convictions are imprinted on the soul). So, learn something interesting and that is fun to you so you can maybe preoccupy yourself? Thought experiment: imagine you are trapped in an elevator for a million years, with absolutely no way out, and no idea of how long you will remain there. What do you do? Talk to yourself? Crouch down and smush your face into one of the corners and imagine that you are an ant? Pray? Imagine getting laid or drinking a club soda? I don't know. The possibilty of an eternal darkness, a Hades, where there is no bliss, no suffering, no sensation, is more terrifying to me than anything. But, we have sensation now. We feel and think now. We are alive now. Who or what is to say that we cannot again?All of this is definitely baseless speculation on my part.
>>42436244https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2CogVMp5_Eboot into bios
Upon death each soul passes immediately before the judgement seat of Christ to render its account and receive its particular judgement. Those who die in mortal sin are cast into hell. Those who die in sanctifying grace are saved. The judgement received is final and irrevocable.>so surely if we remember all of them we can gain critical information which can save us, right?That besides the Lord Jesus Chirst:>"there is no other name under heaven given to men, whereby we must be saved."Acts 4:12
>>42437643>finite life with finite consequences>infinite punishmentyou couldn't concoct a more evil scheme if you tried
>>42437664First of all, mortal sin is an offense against God, and an offense against an infinite God carries infinite gravity.Second of all, the soul in hell does not suffer an infinite punishment for its finite sins. It inhabits eternally the orientation it chose finally and irrevocably at death, and God, in respecting that choice, does nothing but honor the freedom He bestowed.
>>42437211We spend half life to experience life and we spend half life to prepare to the next. Don't wast your nights, Anon.
>>42436244The light is an omegajebait managed by the grey aliens, if some NDE experiencers are to believe.
>>42437664Instilling fear, the ultimate tool of control.
>>42437945The death is simply energetic body free of the physical body.
>>42437743Ive never asked the god to create me in first place and ive never asked him for afterlife, but i guess he doesn't respect free will and freedom to choose when it comes to that
>>42436244You may have the option to go into the white light, but if you have an intense attachment to this Earthly plane (relationships, wealth, possessions, etc.) then either you choose to wander here as a spirit until someone can send you over to the other side, or an echo of yourself is left behind and you go regardless. This is just based off NDEs, Journey of Souls, and psychics and shit so I'm not sure what is entirely true regarding ghosts and spirits who choose not to pass over, if they just go anyway or get left behind for a bit.>>42436257We apparently get a choice at the speed of reincarnation. We can either choose to reincarnate immediately or wait awhile and go back whenever we feel ready. Time isn't the same on the other side as it is here - what could feel like hundreds of years over there could just be a couple hours here on Earth. I asume you could even choose to incarnate in past versions of Earth, future versions of Earth, or even alternate timeline versions of Earth as long as it still meets the goal as being the best life for you to gain growth.>>42436387Has this Brett Stuart guy done anything else? What gives him more credibility than the thousands of NDErs, past life regressions sessions, OOB experiencers, and psychics who say the nature of reality is different than prison planet?
>>42437743>Second of all, the soul in hell does not suffer an infinite punishment for its finite sins. It inhabits eternally the orientation it chose finally and irrevocably at deathOkay, so I guess everyone whoever got murdered and never knew Jesus is in hell. Also, if aliens exist (which is looking more and more real at this time), did God give them one chance or face eternal punishment using an equivalent of Jesus in their planet? Do you think an ever loving, all merciful God would intentionally create a system of eternal punishment for every living being in the universe? Do you think someone who loves you as much as Jesus says God loves us in the Bible would use fear to motivate you to get things right in one chance? I believe Jesus is one of the wisest men to walk on the planet and His teachings are more important now more than ever. However, I also believe modern day "Christians" ignore Jesus's teachings and go straight to fire, brimstone, Old Testament values, and authoritarian leadership because it fits their idea of control & fear better. God is not supposed to be the monster that modern "Christians" make him out to be.
>>42438041>appeal to majority>credibility >of NDErs
>>42437167I guess the question is what exactly to practice? People are saying imagine yourself in a fantasy world, some are saying attack and kill the reptilians which I suspect can get you caught in their web.>>42437459I think it just means sitting up in bed. My dad might have died at a 45° angle but I'm not sure and this knowledge didn't exist 5 years ago when he died. He sent us a lot of 33s after he died though since his birthday was 3/3 and Jesus died at 33 who presumably he was with.>>42437491your soul might remember but your mind doesn't when the reptilians mind-wipe you>>42438041What gives Brett Stuart credibility is he did a remote viewing with 3 other people and they were blind to the target, so they didn't know what they were remote viewing and they all said the same thing about Earth. Plus you can see the electric fence grid thing in the sky on shrooms. My brother saw it.
OP here again. so what do we do when we die?
>>42440420i think it's literally 1 of 1 for every single person and also depends on your sincere belief/expectation at the time of death, and whatever you're "drawn" to in reality.
>>42442178whatever you're drawn to as in what you are attracted to
>>4243624445 degrees is because your "soul" has a higher chance of penetrating the dome at an angle.
>>42436244what about the people who see angels before hand?What about the people who see demons before hand and no light in their NDE?
>>42442530They're the same beings appearing to be whatever they think will be most effective
>>42437743>*gives you free will*>OH NOOOOO IM SO OFFENDEDgod is a vengeful SJW
>>42438041>muh growth>even the afterlife has KPIs, metrics, quarterly planning, and performance reviewsFUCK ALL THISI JUST WANT TO VIBE
>>42440420turn 360 degrees and walk away from the light tunnel
>>42440420Stop what you're doing, sit down and reject all external thoughts, like meditation.And keep doing that until you get exactly what you want.
>>42442671and they scan your brain when you die to decide what to show so most people are no match for what they see
>>42442737No anon you get 2 shitty choices in the afterlife. You can either burn in fire or trans out and marry Jewsus.
Ain't died yet, sooooo... I'll tell you if I can come back... XD
