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Has anyone managed to make anything akin to the stuff being put out by /h/?

>>>/h/6864691

It seems like everything is optimized for females so there's nothing for male porn. Anyone got any good ideas?
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>>2979184
There's some artist using it a lot on twitter, but I don't think he's posted about which model he's using
The results seem both funny and impressive imo
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>>2979245
>Those legs
>New muscle groups
I just gonna use AI art as drawing ideas when I can't think of anything to draw.
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>>2979184
That looks like way too much nonsense for "art".
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uhh it's what i've been doing for at least 40 waking hours the past week lmao
it's highly addicting, but yeah, it's hard to appreciate the /y/ side of this hobby when 95% of the consumer demographic just wants cute anime girls with big bazongas

most models have enough idea of what male bodies are to put stuff together, especially the NAI model checkpointed with most models; it can produce stellar results
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>>2980552
How do you get started with the NAI stuff? I have a tutorial saved for setting up Stable Diffusion on my computer but I haven't done it yet. But I'm guessing you can't make porn on the DreamStudio version, right?
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>>2980552
Damn anon looking good
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>>2980599
no idea about dream studio, NAI lets you generate nsfw stuff though
definitely use voldy's 'setup for retards' guide; it's fast and to the point https://rentry.org/voldy
NAI faq guide: https://rentry.org/sdg_FAQ
this sets it up so you can easily update by using github to pull when you request it to
I think just the basic pruned NAI model v1 (basically, the initial leak) is more than enough to generate awesome stuff; all you need is the pruned-model-final.ckpt and the anime.vae.pt which helps curate and adjust the model; finally you can add the hypernetworks to it, but people said that they get best results without it generally, which I kind of have to agree on

note that having basic knowledge in image editing can skyrocket your workflow; you generate via txt2img-> add/remove details in csp/paint or whatever -> img2img -> detail -> back to img2img; etc etc until you have a completed image and then finalize your details in your image editor

inpainting is generally hit or miss for me, it's generally easier to open up the base image and just paint some scribbles on there as guidelines to help the inpainting know where to go
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tomorrow i'm going to research which models have the best concept of 'yaoi', or rather a general idea; i have mild successes with NAI + Waifu Diffusion weighted sum .8 checkpoint for some things, but it really just depends on your interests i guess; it feels like as soon as i start adding penises to things it starts going downhill instantly due to deformations and such
but goddamn i can make some really horny sfw stuff lmao
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>>2980525
How did you generate that image? What model? Prompt? Thats pretty good. For some reason I cannot generate a decent looking penis at all.
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>>2980744
its NovelAI but to be honest that was supposed to be a thick musclegirl, it gave her a dick so I replaced the female tags with penis tags and img2img'd.

This is pretty close
masterpiece, best quality, {{{photorealistic masterpiece by Jesper Ejsing}}}, nsfw, 1boy, solo focus, nude, bodybuilder, short hair, blonde hair, disgusted expression, thick, large pectorals, {muscular}, {{{{flat chest}}}}, {{abs}}, sweat, {steaming body}, wet clothes, wet skin, indoors, gym, weightlifting, cum on body, cum on chest, cum on legs, penis, erection

Negative: lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, censored, pubic hair, fat, narrow waist, breasts, beard, facial hair, futa, multiple penises
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inpainting is definitely how you get faces and stuff done, but you are at the mercy of the AI when it comes to penors unless you guide it with img2img
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>>2980706
what are you using for this one? looks great!
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looks like turds
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I'm pretty bad at generating consistent porn with AI but using an image for reference in the software seem to work pretty good
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>>2980858
kinda, yeah
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>>2980862
Hnnnng! That is a really nice pic, anon.
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>>2980823
Literally wanting to use this just to get more mha lewds, specially from Shoto
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welllllll
I think it's just NEAT
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>>2981131
How did you get it to draw things at least resembling cocks?
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>>2981133
try
>(penis), (large penis), (veiny penis)
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>>2981133
(detailed penis)
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>>2981133
first, merging models or using models that already have a good idea of what erections look like is a good start
of course using the proper prompts is always important, I generally start with (erection:1.25), penis
BUT the best way i've found is to have a preset cache of dicks to quickly slap on something when I want to; there's a GIGANTIC gallery to choose from at https://e-hentai.org/g/1329664/c89b949762/, honestly a bit too much; I just chose an artist (I really like arkapami's) and then crop some out and clean it up a bit for use; when i need it, i'll slap it on to the image, then i'll go to img2img inpainting, mask that part, and use appropriate tags to come up with detailed cocks that fit the rest of the prompt
i'm so addicted, it's such a fun hobby; sucks that it's borderline unethical; I think a year from now people will pay artists to train anime models and sell them as full software suites and I will feel significantly less guilty using those
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>>2981203
I think it's really only unethical when AI users are posting on twitter acting like they deserve full credit for in painting for a little or evern trying to sell these.
I am an artist and I am having fun with this I just don't think it's right to try and monitize something that is essentially another person's art.
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I live under a ride cl so I didn't know about this AI art.
Is this gonna kill artist and commissioners? I literally just started to do commission and now I'm so afraid that not even that will work for me with this AI thing doing amazing art for no cost and time.
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>>2981240
well some people in the art community were already highly critical of people using references of other artists, almost like 'copying'
I think this way of thinking has been mostly phased out but there's bits and pieces that linger
when you compare it to stable diffusion which is basically created from references...
idk i'm probably overthinking it and being too critical of stuff; i would love to create an account on pixiv or twitter specifically for my male AI generated stuff, to show my workflow and detailing; I get a lot of questions about it, but I would have a hard time -not- tagging artists that I used for diffusion; then that's another thing, would those artists even want to associate with me? or want that image displayed? I even use female-centric stuff for some of my prompts because the art or subject matter is just really clever; I feel like they would be repulsed that I use it for male-centric work
>>2981278
honestly; the way I see it after doing some heavily thinking
- sfw commissions are most likely going to be a lot less desired unless you have a very unique style or are already established as a creator
- nsfw comms are probably going to stay the same more or less; unless there's even more breakthroughs because this entire branch of media is still having it's 'big bang'; with current tech, you're still highly limited in the detailing process and direction of the work, as well as overall style of course

in my opinion, I think this whole thing will actually end up creating way more artists than we would of had otherwise; I've seen people start studying anatomy, impressionism, people are buying software to help with editing their stuff; thing is they'll just be labeled as something besides an 'artist' I guess
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>>2981283
Pixiv artists, in general, tend to be a lot pickier about stuff like this so I would avoid it. My experience in having Japanese artist friends is- so much as privately sharing a piece of art they made you will get them wanting to tear everything down.
The tower of Hanoi translations even got a shutdown because someone used the artists art as a pfp too many times.
But I feel like finding a gallery you can upload to and having in the description that you used AI and can't trace back all the sources used in the library would be enough in my book maybe even stating listed artists (in the prompt) and inspo as extra caution if desired.
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>>2981283
>sfw commissions are most likely going to be a lot less desired unless you have a very unique style or are already established as a creator
That's preciesly what I'm afraid off since I don't do nsfw commissions and I just started.
I guess there's nothing to be done, but I feel so bad about it.
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>>2981278
Its really not amazing and its extremely limited in what it can do. Its random with txt to img. It can create nice pics at times but overall it in the real sense carries no soul even if its perfectly drawn but the pictures just have subjects and not characters.
Img to img is much more powerful and I would tell artists to learn how to use embeddings or hypernetworks trained with their unique style and use img to img to create art from drafts/sketches that they can then take to finish manually. This also serves as a way to differentiate themselves because they can train with private data that they only have since its their own work.
I think AI will just become a tool like any other to increase workflow.
The biggest and most glaring problem with AI is creating a coherent story or theme like manga panels would have which is why I think artists and AI will merge in some way.
I have generated some really amazing pieces but I haven't been able to coom to a single one it can get me hard but I always end up going to doujins to finish.
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>>2981308
whatever the fuck those abominations are, they aren't yaoi
and i'm unsure mods won't step in
maybe you're just a troll, maybe you don't like stable diffusion and are trying to ruin the thread
at least that's my educated guess, especially since you grabbed stuff off of rule-34

since people want to troll the thread now I invite everyone who is interested to the unstable diffusion discord; the #men-only channel has some information about how to generate really good looking men with the right prompts and models, and there's LOTS of info on stable diffusion in general in all the other channels too
https://discord.gg/ASgjrTAP
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>>2981313
They are men though I'm not trolling lol. Why are you so salty about it bruh this is my first time using 4chan
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>>2981313
how to get rights to use the bot? I've joined the server, but it tells me I don't have rights to post in the channels where you generate art
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>>2981399
>They are men though I'm not trolling lol.
>Why are you so salty about it bruh this is my first time using 4chan
Pick a struggle
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>>2981451
I pick men, I mean what's wrong about liking AI generated anime men?
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>>2981510
>I mean what's wrong about liking AI generated anime men?
It's cool but uncanny, for one.
For two, it's not... "there" yet
And if they're too powerful for a computer...
You can still like them. I just wish there were more body types here like twinks and twunks on top of hunks. I'd try it myself if I had more than just a cheap laptop.
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>>2981441
the bot should give it to your automatically but if not, go to #select-rolls and at the bottom, react with the green check mark emoji and it will give you access
i definitely would look into generating your own art locally though, there's lots of info across all the channels to get you started
>>2981399
Because they are women's heads on mens body; aka "strange gay" which belongs in /d/
>>2565057
Not trying to backseat mod or whatever, they're already doing their job, but in my limited and very brief exposure with talking about AI art in public spaces, it is met with insane amounts of trolling and vitriol from art communities. So yea, posting shit like that I can only assume you're one of them; that or you're insanely lost and can't read the room.
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>>2981517
I’ve only recently discovered all this ai stuff so its new and cool to me but no I don’t consider myself a troll at all
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>>2981517
>not trying to backseat mod but i'm going to backseat mod
I thought masculine bodies were ok?
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>>2981517
>i definitely would look into generating your own art locally
Sadly, my pc is not very high end, it's a gaming laptop I bought about 1.5 years ago and if it gets fried I won't be able to afford the same level pc now. Afaik, the requirements for running this AI locally are pretty high, don't think mine can keep up, it only has 2 gb vram. If things ever look up for me I'm definitely buying a better PC specifically for AI and VR stuff, but so far it's not feasible, and I'm not risking the only PC I can comfortably work on to earn at least the small amount I can make now just for the sake of some cooms. I can only fap to my fantasies anyway, normal porn and even drawn porn have stopped doing things for me years ago, and I'm still not sure AI or even VR can change that and actually let me live out my real fantasies.
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>>2981513
>picrel
This is bait
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>>2981313
>maybe you're just a troll
>I invite everyone who is interested to the unstable diffusion discord
Can't make this shit up
>>2981517
>Not trying to backseat mod or whatever
Doing a pretty good job of it pal
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>>2981676
You're no better than annoying trap/cuntboy posters. "It's a boy, the artist just happens to slap a dick on a flat-chested girl!" "Sure it has a vagina, but it looks like a man from the waist up therefore it belongs here despite breaking the rules against strangegay" "Ambushes are men too even though they have woman faces"
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>>2981677
>trap/cuntboy
>implying it's the same thing
I'm sorry the entire board isn't 40 year old truck drivers
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>>2981677
That discord channel is filled to the brim with ugly 40 year old naked men pics. Wish there was a way to block these users pics
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>>2979184
>try it out
ah sweet it's [manmade horrors beyond my comprehension]
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>>2981719
The Human Centipede: a Gay XXX Parody
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>>2981719
I did a pass with a different model and all it did was make it a full on FTM tranny
At least it looks more like artwork now but I'm thinking we need a model trained specifically on gay faggotry before it's worth it
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Ok I was out at first but now I'm back in.
Yeah, I'm thinking it's based.
How will Patreon ever recover?
>original content do not steal :^)
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>>2981722
I'm sure if you feed it enough images, it'll know how to draw full-on gay stuff.
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with some tweaking from /h/'s prompts ive managed to get a couple decent girly looking boys
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>>2981857
This one still looks like a girl
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>>2981517
>go to #select-rolls and at the bottom, react with the green check mark emoji
I did this btw, and it still says I have no rights to post in the generation channels. I assume you meant the check mark from the pic? Do I need to use the application for this to work? I am using the web version at the moment, since I'm not a big fan of Discord and literally only need it for this and one other server.
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>>2981856
literally 100/10 perfect
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some more decent boy stuff from novelai
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Are you guys paying for this, or is there a free option?
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>>2981917
i had an old novelai account so i got 3000 of their generation tokens for free. but for new users theyre priced 2000 for 3.79usd, so it's pretty cheap
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Requesting twunk goth bf
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I've been playing with it a lot but most models struggle with both penises and anything anal, pretty sure it's a struggle for even straight anal sex. I've tried training my own but I don't know enough about it and had mixed results.
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>>2981940
Cute now make porn of a big goth bf. Lean and muscular ikemen looking unamused.
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This thread needs more redheads.
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is it novelai? if so how y'all make it so good? everytime I do it, the ai just messes up the character traits.
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NAI's model is god tier for boys in leather and latex. The "pencil sketch" tag gives really, really good results.
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>>2982025
I'll dump some of the best ones I got out of it.
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>>2982078
Can you give an example prompt you used for one of these?
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>>2982079
I used a lot of wildcards. But it was something along the lines of:

>masterpiece, best quality, (pencil sketch:1.3), young, boy, male, male focus, 1boy, (__clothingmaterial__ __randomclothing__:1.3), collar, slave collar, slave, (__randomtopless__:1.2), __randompose__, (crotch bulge:0.9), (bondage:1.2), __randomexpression__, ((cum on face)), __randomhairstyle__, (__randomgaggedblindfolded__:1.3)

The double __words__ are for wildcards if you're familiar with that. Random gag wildcard switches between "gag in mouth", "blindfolded" and "gag in mouth, blindfolded".
You'll have to generate a lot to get good results. I let it run while I'm at work and then I cherry pick the best ones.
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>>2982079
Example without the wildcards would be
>masterpiece, best quality, (pencil sketch:1.3), (young boy:1.4), young, boy, male, male focus, 1boy, (leather school uniform:1.3), collar, slave collar, slave, (topless:1.2), sitting, (crotch bulge:0.9), (bondage:1.2), panting, happy, ((cum on face)), short hair, (blindfold:1.3)
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>>2982094
The model is really at respecting the "topless" tag and implementing it into whatever outfit you specify. I'm honestly impressed it works that well.
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>>2982097
Gags are super hit or miss though, so if you don't have the patience to sit through 5000 bad generations for one that looks decent, I'd just not bother. Blindfolds turn out good though.
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>>2981286
>I think AI will just become a tool like any other to increase workflow.
I see this brought up and I'm curious on what people mean when they say it'll make more artists than less.
The only one I can think of so far is similar to how concept artists on tight schedules photobash their backgrounds by using royalty free photos.
And I can also see how it can help beginner artists to visualize how their art should look.

>>2981278
If it gives you any comfort, art communities were already highly critical of people stealing from other artists. It's fairly easy to sniff out an AI fag just by their history or they can show innocence via livestreaming themselves drawing.
And there's some copy right issues that comes along with it too.
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>>2982106
>And there's some copy right issues that comes along with it too.
Not in Canada, Japan, the UK, or the US. They all have legal precedent protecting an artist's right to reference other works which includes a painted over collage.
The image you shared is cut and dry infringement, but what AI does without img2img is also cut and dey not infringement.
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>>2982117
References is the key word, this is literally typing sexy beautiful boy into a image generator, no one is going to copyright that
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>>2981510
I've never been into muscular females before but this is just masculine enough with the dress to play into all of my kinks FUCK
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>>2982098
Yeah, anytime I attempted to use 'gag' of any kind, it would either give me a face mask that covered his mouth and nose or turn the blindfold into a complete face cover. Which was funny.

Not sure how you got 'hands behind back' bondage. I could only manage above the head. If I said anything like 'hands behind back', I'd get a back side shot of the subject.
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what sites y'all use besides novelai.
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>>2981510
2B and Noi fusion
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Turn trap characters into handsome men!
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tits
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took a crack at it myself
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>>2982469
what was the prompt?
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>>2982469
Now someone turn this boobless dickgirl into a handsome man
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>>2982487
Hey do me a favor and fuck off
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>>2982529
Do us all a favor and go back to >>>/d/. Trapshit is not welcome here.
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Anyone got any tips for getting good dicks with NAI? I'm finding it pretty easy to get chests, but penises take way more steps and still end up deformed or duplicated
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>>2982560
Inpainting is pretty much the only way to get unmangled cocks, until NAI adds it inpaintind, you pretty much have to get a pc version of stable diff and the NAI leaked ckpt.
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>>2982567
Even with inpainting, a huge issue regarding cocks is it ALWAYS shows the doral side of it, resulting in anatomically impossible dick orientations
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>>2982569
Haha, like this? Looks like AI hits a lot of classic bad art issues (hands, cocks) but I'm sure it can do better with tweaks
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>>2982570
Exactly like this, it absolutely refuses to show the underside of a cock accurately, instead just giving the top view. No way I've found to correct it through prompts or inpainting. You can barely get a side view if you run like 20 iterations of inpainting.

tldr; NAI (and by extention the NAI leak stable diff leak) has not been exposed to enough cultured media to draw accurate penis
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>>2982544
the guy isn't even wearing anything feminine
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>>2982574
Alas, a man who is not bloated with hideous unattainable muscle mass is deemed to be a trap, regardless of if they wear anything feminine or not
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finally got it to do a butt I'm somewhat satisfied with
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>>2982588
Now the challenge is to simultaneously get a non-mangled cock and balls without fucking up the ass generation
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>>2982591
NAI can't even generate two characters fucking without mixing their traits or mangling their cocks and balls.
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>>2982572
use yiffy model when inpainting, with a ton of negative furry/animal prompts
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>>2982598
You might be onto something here. As degenerate as their content is, the furfags sure know their cock
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Come at me, baraschizos
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>>2982600
The AI gave him a codpiece or burned off his dick. Weird.
Gues it's still got a long way to go before it can get dicks just right.
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>>2981240
Lol there is nothing unethical about AI art. It’s not making a collage of existing art, it’s recognizing shapes and patterns and creating entirely new works. It’s no different than an art student studying existing styles and using them to create something new.

Artists are just trying to guilt-trip people with misinformation because they realize they’re going to be out of a job soon. For the first time in history, anyone can create create quality art. Welcome to the future.
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>>2982617
Utilizing other people's art on a massive scale in order to make a profit without any recognition of those artists is unethical.
I am an artist and it's not about the money for me but I still would say it's shitty practice.
The fact that other AI training for music has avoided copyrighted material speaks to the legal implications its just music has more legal backing than drawn art.
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>>2982618
Nope. AI art is no different than humans learning specific painting techniques or looking at other work for inspiration. The AI is literally just LOOKING at other pieces of art and learning how to interpret text commands—there is no copying. Y’all can whine all you want, but Pandora’s box has opened. You can’t fight technological progress.
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>>2982619
There is a massive difference between an individual looking at krenz for anatomy tips and a corporation harvesting every image on danbooru to train an ai while never intending to so much as give a nod to artists used in training.
I'm not even against progress and would be considered an accelerationist. I even have the most milktoast stance on this that I feel as though there should be embedded datasets that extract the stylistic references in the ai because I also feel like mapping those trails will be a benefit going forward.
I think you just saw the word unethical because I was quoting and decided to interpret that to it's extreme. Did you post some AI art on twitter and got yelled at by a sub 500 follower baby or something? This is literally a cartoon gay sex board go back to /ic/ already.
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>>2982617
>they realize they’re going to be out of a job soon
Commissions is what its been putting food on my table over the last year, so idk how other artists feels, but I'm almost getting depressed because of this.
Because as much as I hate it, AI art is only going to get better.
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>>2982620
You sound upset.
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>>2982604
Half the time it basically ignores half of the prompt and yes, it keeps stealing the dicks from those wretched boobless dickgirls of mine...
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>>2982637
...These 3 guys are basically the only times it got the idea more or less right so far. Most others are basically it giving me a face close-up despite the prompt saying 'full body' and 'penis'. Perhaps I'm just greedy, I read on discord people are trying for days with the same prompt, while I mostly get bored after 10-15 times.
Also for some reason upscale doesn't always make the image better. Imo it mostly the opposite, it just makes ot more blurry and gets rid of nice sharp details. For instance here
I had a hard time choosing but in the end still decided I like the non-upscaled version (picrel) more because the wings have more texture.
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>>2982638
Here's the upscale for comparison.

And yes, with girls it does a much better job. Most likely because it's trained on girls mostly, Also on different body types of girls. In short, blame the artists for their heterosexism and female form being prevalent in coomer art for, like, centuries.
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>>2982640
Heh, much better results with the furry model, definitely. Getting rid of the furry face is pretty easy. And this could also be the only time upscale actually helps, because it removes the remainder of 'furry pattern' from the skin. Here it also slightly improved the penis perhaps. On the other hand, I don't like how it made pubic hair look less realistic.
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>check out fireden archives
>everysingle image is broken
Damn it
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So is there anyone here who has both played with AI and commissioned/paid for art? Do you think AI would replace commissioning or paying for art entirely for you?

I can see how it'd be fine for simple smut but I also like my illustration to have some narrative value and I don't like the idea of illustration that has no real intent. A lot of the pics in this thread are hot but they are very plain. Have you ever seen a picture of someone's character and wanted to know all about them? I can ask the AI to generate a similar character over and over but it's not the SAME character, there's no deeper thought put into who the person is. I know a lot of people who look at porn art don't care about that though.
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>>2982723
Honestly, not really. It's been fun to play around with it, but I've been commissioning artists to draw porn for me for so long, I've formed connections with them.

Can I manifest the exact porn I want into precise way I want it through AI? Absolutely not. Can I do the same with commissions? It can vary, but you have a significantly better chance!

Some of the artists I've bonded with have led me to some of my favorite pieces of porn, and while my attempts her have led me to some decent pieces, they are pieces of porn that... aren't of anyone specific. Lifeless and dull.

I don't think there isn't a place for AI art as a tool, but I don't think there is a replacement for the real deal.
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>>2982723
I've never commissioned. Even though my fetishes are not that fucked up, I'm still scared of discussing them with someone and being judged, because I'm a huge sociophobe. AI would be a blessing to me. I wouldn't commission even if I was literally drowning in free money. But if I could get at least something close to porn of my husbando without going through the awkwardness of discussing my lust for an obscure and controversial character with some total stranger, that would be great. You seem to be forgetting an important segment of TA for AI - people who just hate interacting with other people. I don't want some poor girl from a trird-world country force herself to churn out that drawing just because they need my $$$, probably hating me and my husbando all the way through. That's disgusting and humiliating, for both parties, just like bying a prostitute.
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I've been messing around a bit this week and here are some results for any interested anons. So far I like Stable diffusion and I think I like the nai more than wd. I thought img2img was a meme but imo that, inpainting, and EsRGAn are key to getting nicer images.
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>>2982849
Sorry here is picrel.

1/1
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6/6
The pics are from different points generation wise. Some are more finished in terms of inpainting and etc.
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>>2979184
That's so sad and disrespectful.

Art is really dead.
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>>2982865
It's such a good bot, it literally wamts to make you cummies.
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>>2982850
>>2982851
>>2982852
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>>2982854
Nice. What were your prompts?
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>>2982855
how do you get 2 guys in one pic and make it look not f-ed up?
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>>2982865
Only bad and mediocre art which has nothing to say. Git good or go home. Just as it always has been. Competition gets harsher, that's how we progress. Natural selection isn't gone, it's just being sped up. Cry more, pussy.
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Explain to me how you get NAI Diffusion to not fuck up mal faces, please.
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>>2982886

This is the opposite of a selection, mongoloid. It is literally cattering to the desires of the incompetent, the disrespectful and the unskilled to make the world into a even more oversaturated and objectively worse place.

No wonder a retarded faggot like you choose such a shitty image to illustrate your derranged view.
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>>2982893
>cattering to the desires of the incompetent, the disrespectful and the unskilled
Implying that's not what 90% of 'artists' have been doing for decades without any AI. Or are you going to convince me that capeshit movies, battle royale shooters and dating sims are being made for sophisticated intellectuals?

>you choose such a shitty image
Lmao, post your non-shitty masterpieces, Leonardo. But something tells me you're a bitter nobody who just comes here to whine. A real artist would have better things to do than whining about AI robbing them of cringey coomer commissiions on a girls' cartoon forum.

Fuck off and get a shrink, loser.
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>>2982895
It was a very poorly generated image, but you cant teach a pig.

Beyond that, you are actually a nobody and you apparently find joy in any attempt to stain anything worthwhile. Because you know that you are not.
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>>2982895

Artist are already talking about AI is negatively impacting them. Both begginers that are getting in the market, just as the ones that are already working for many years, and they see how the amount of poorly done, automated content is impacting them (and the craft itself) negatively.

It is a fact.
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>>2982886
>>2982895

>Lazy-eyed nipples looking at different directions

>Fucked up hair (in general), that is even merging with the eyebrows

>No understanding of the human body

>Supporting a plagiarism app that is literally insulting humanity.

Yes, "Leonardo" anon is the one that needs a shrink. You are a sane and healthy individual, not at all a mentally ill consoomer.
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>>2982899
>>2982897
>>2982896
Meds
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>>2982897
Why should we care, lmao? We're not artists. Go yell at your Mom for not making you get an actual degree...
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>>2982896
>>>/ic/
You'll be more at home there with your whining and crabby attitude, hun
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>>2982897

maybe we should pay them just out of respect for fellow humans, and not giving all our money to ultra huge companies
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>>2982634
Then learn how to monetize AI art alongside your own style. You can continue doing your thing while profiting from this new era in art. Also get over yourself nothing bad has happened to your commissions yet and your bitching about a bogeyman that you haven’t confronted yet.
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>>2982696
What prompt did you use?
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>>2982617

Everything is unethical about that, you just dont have the brains and honesty to reach to the obvious conclusion.


Oh, It is great to bastarize all things so you can have more time to feed google data whores as you scrool your mediocre life away!

Welcome to the future!
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>>2982908

Oh really? Which great degree you got?

Did you did what mommy told you?
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>>2982932
>boohoo I'm a depressed loser who hates fun
>so no one else must be allowed to have fun and nice things
>it's unethical!
>I have no rational arguments
>but look I know fancy words like 'bastardize'! That should convince you, stupid sheeple consoomers!
Seethe more
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>>2982893
lmao, it's literally porn. All that's gonna happen is a bunch of artists whose career's only existed to pander to coomers are gonna have to get an actual job. Nothing of value is being lost.
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>>2982935
You are literally retarded
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>>2982939

Taking into account that you are a brain-fried cronic masturbator, it is interesting that you are expressing contempt even about the lowest amongs the lowest of the hentai artistis.

But it makes sense if we take into account that you fried your small brain already. gooning like the pig you are.
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>>2982941
kek dude, you are literally on a gay porn board. Do you mean to tell me you are in fact, not horny yourself? I'm trying to wrap my mind around your immense level of irrational butthurt and bizarre moral indignation. The only way I can explain it is that you're a shitty porn artist yourself who is terrified the easy money will stop coming in. Look, I don't really care about people like you, it doesn't matter to me what this AI does to your gravy train. These AIs will not drive any GOOd artists out of business, because AI can not create anything new. The thing is though, about 95% of art is totally derivative. So I suppose your fear is warranted.
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>>2982942

All the points were already made and you keep with this senseless, tired, indulgent garbage discourse.

Regardless, moral indignation is really something that an irrational, immoral animal, that has no sense of pride, and nothing to be proud of could ever understand, since you live to try to make things as mediocre and as degraded as yourself.
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>>2982943
Dude I ain't the same guy you were talking to. I honestly feel like I'm the one talking to an AI now though. You're not even making arguments, you're just stringing words together to try to sound intelligent. Is this some sort of social experiment, using sudowrite to test to see if AI can successfuly bicker about morality on Thai silk weaving forums? If it is, I would say not bad, 6/10, needs some work. If it's not how ever, I've got some bad news for you, somehow you managed to, as a human, fail the Turing test.
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>>2982940
As opposed to an intelligent, upstanding, productive member of society like you who enjoys spewing nonsensical diatribes at 'mentally ill brain-fried coomers' for hours on end, despite being ridiculed and trolled back?
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>>2982849
WD apparently is getting a huge major update December first(planned).
Current Nai mainly scraps from Danbooru and has training for different ratios but next WD plans to do that and go outside of Danbooru so I expect that to surpass the Nai leaks eventually.
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>>2982939
And what exactly it's an "actual job" for you? Slaving yourself in a restaurant or something like that?
Commission are a normal job that consumes time and resources like any other.
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>>2982953
lmao, look dude, I get that people's livelihoods are threatened due the advance of technology. But this society of Ludd crap is just silly. You're not gonna stop people from using AI to make porn, and you have zero moral argument against people doing so. And it's not like the AI can invent new styles of art. It can only copy and mix and match, and it can only do that well with the aid of a capable human user.

I understand trying to make a living sucks right now, really, I get it. But no one has a right to restrict other's use of technology just because they are being outcompeted by that technology.
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>>2982965
I'm so glad I didn't go down the career path of a an artist. At least my job isn't getting replaced in the next 10 years.

Also, pandering to people who want to stop technological advancement to keep their shitty unautomated jobs is detrimental to literally everyone other than them.
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>>2982953
Industries have risen and fallen with technology.
Handloom textiles died to mechanized weaving and automated patterns.
They coped HARD about it then because they failed to adapt.

Art commisions will follow the same path. Custom porn on demand? Available to anyone with a decent GPU? Hell yeah thats not going to die now. Commision artists will need to go be productive to society now that their economic niche has been occupied
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>>2982885
For that picture I started with a reference image to get the poses, and then gend it through im2img.The faces came out fucked but to unfuck them you put them through a mix of inpainting and prompting to refine them. When the faces are in a good state, then do a few generations of img2img with your original prompt and a high step rate and a sampler like DDIM to get a final image. That's what I've been doing at least.

>>2982855
Picrel is the reference for I used for this image.
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Somehow, I managed to pay for membership for my Novelai account, but it won't accept my card to pay for Anlas. So I'm just kind of... screwed.
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>>2982994
Did you work hard to become a repugnant hobgoblin or were you just born that way?
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>>2982994
> Commision artists will need to go be productive to society now
What? you think commisioners waste the money they earn on drugs or something?
Idk about the others, but I pay for my food and expenses with the money I get from commissions.
And don't get me wrong, I KNOW this tecnology it's only going to get better and better. Anyone who doesn't see that is in denial.
My problem it's when people like you go "hahaha you lose! finally it's time for you all to get a REEEEEEAL job" like if earning money in any other way that's not "traditional" is wrong.
And I repeat, I know this wont stop, progress wont ever stop and adapt to it is the only solution (in fact, one of my recent commissions was redrawing an AI draw on my style), but why act like this is destroying an "evil practice" or something? Maybe you had a bad experience commissioning, but this is just another job with people trying to make living of what they can do.
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Random addition to the current conversation so sage because it’s not worth the bump.

The latest thing of people earning money from multiple people for the same work doesn’t sit well with me. Take sakimichan for example, absolutely great technique but fucking wasted because they rely on stealing IP and refuse to develop beyond the same exact faces and shit dicks. They’re lazy and riding easy almost for free. Art should be a one time payment commission where the person who purchases it then owns it. My mind cannot be changed for about this. That being said I would 100% support a human artist no matter how good the AI gets, but there is no way I would support people through patreon style purchases for one image shared among hundreds of other supporters. Though, an artist like Futase Hikaru absolutely deserves to be supported. They are cheaper yet produce 300 page works.
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Does anyone know if there are any /y/ prompt resources? Or any /y/ specific resources in general? How do I get better cock gen? The questions continue.

I've tried making a /y/ themed berry mix, but no dice. If my pc could do TI i would, but it's not so should I just use a colab and make some embeddings?
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I made a hypernetwork that adds some masculinity and detail if anyone wants to try it:

https://wetransfer.com/downloads/6b72615ad42b82ed0b9fd632dbefff6220221029045659/c3bc3626462061ae4e28b7e9d8b928e320221029045726/d093b2

it's good enough to where it can turn some female results male,but I don't really know what I'm doing and I hope someone can make a better one

also I get decent results with this prompt using novelai model, taken/modified/merged from /h/ and a discord:

masterpiece, best quality, masterpiece, nsfw, sketch, (from_side:1.2).
\replacewithcharactername (replacewithseriesname)\ nipple piercings, hyper-detailed pecs, (curvy:1.1), raised eyebrows, bent_over, sex from behind, deepthroat fellatio from the front.
(3boys:1.2), (dark_skin_man:1.3).
(interracial:1.2).

negatives:
low resolution, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, blurry, (deformed:2), bad anatomy, disfigured, mutation, mutated, (extra_limbs), (ugly), obese, unhealthy, female, alien, pussy

e.g. \Marth (Fire Emblem)\
change what you want obviously, but I suggest keeping everything to start with so you aren't going off dead reckoning (the formatting and periods made the difference between men and women to me)

some characters are known enough to not need a series name, and the quality of any prompt decreases the more characters being drawn on average (changing 3boys to 1boy will usually increase quality a lot)
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>>2983024
AI community is definitely attracting the sort of autists who resented artists for having talent, and are now bitter because they're not getting any artistic respect for their prompt gatcha.
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>>2983129
forgot to add that you should try using x/y plot under scripts (if you're using automatic1111's gui)

box 1 put a seed, box 2 put cfg scale and set it to 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

that way you can see how cfg is impacting the image
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>>2983163
I'm running the hypernetwork over nai and a preexisting prompt of mine. I like it so far. Picrel is some seed gen I'm doing atm,
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>>2983129
anon it made literal tiddies when i tried you're prompt kys
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>are now bitter
Oh no. Actually we don't give two fucks about artists or what happens to them. Or about 'respect' from fellow coomers. Bottom pic is us. We're just glad we can now get our dirty waifu/husbando pics for free (or at least really cheap). Stop projecting your attentionwhoring, megalomaniac, drama queen mentality on us.
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>>2983187
depends on seed, cfg number, hypernetwork, sampler (should be euler_a), sampler steps, and what you replaced the character line with

for example, I've seen boobs with all might and ganondorf, but you can still get them without them without changing a thing (you should change it for them though)

(guile) should be easy to test with, also kys
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>>2983223
thanks, I'll mess around with it

naruto had a quadra titty rip my eyes

I'm enjoying where I can get via as much prompting as I can. I like my husbando who's taking shape. I like the faces I'm getting.
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>>2983024
Bold if you to label this satanic abomination as "progress" and not as a menace that is going to kill human creativity. As if the average person is not already completely mindfucked by the disgusting society we live in.
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>>2982966

You are a pig.

What a garbage being, this is what is actually shitty.

How can someone praise something that is automatically generating art? What people write and draw?

You are not even human if you dont see it as the disgusting thing it is.
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>>2982946

You cant be "ridiculed" by subhuman retards. They are already ridiculous.
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>>2982944

You are just too imbecile to understand his point. But it is already clear that you have great contempt for intelligence itself, no wonder you need it to be automated.
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This pic now refined through inpainting and higher sampling. I think the difference is subtle but noticeable.
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>>2982897
Not my problem. They should get another job
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>>2983249
Why shouldn't this technological marvel be admired or praised ? You are a poorfag artist and should immediately rope
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>>2982933
I'm not the guy you're replying to but I I agree with him. I followed my mom's advice, got a degree in computer science, got a job a few years ago in tech and make over a $100k AUD yearly . Cope and seethe artists
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>>2983248
Call it whatever you want, but my point it's that it won't stop.
And believe me, I wish this didn't exist, but it does and there's nothing to do about it. Specially because I didn't start to do commissions to follow some "artists path" or something, but because I couldn't find a job, so now I'm extremely afraid of losing this too.
But it's a fact that AI art will stick. There would be people, for example, charging as much as I do for a commission, to generate an AI draw. Because even if everyone can generate AI, not everyone know how to do it properly or how to use the program. They will just pay to get their nice AI art.
In the commissions department the artist will have to specify they do HAND DRAWN stuff. The AI art will be indistinguishable from hand drawn art.
Maybe I'm being too fatalistic because I'm specially afraid of it, believe me, I hate this, but there's not denying that this will permanently change artist and commissions.
Even if it gets "banned" or whatever, that's like banning pirated games/movies, it won't stop anyone.

TLDR; Progress or no progress, it won't stop, and it will permanently change art and commissions.
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>>2983105
>>2983134
Now turn these bootleg women into handsome men
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"Gay men" don't deserve this.
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"Natural masculinity" is obsolete uwu~
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>>2983354
Totally, nobody cares about "manly" characters, this board don't count.
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>>2983358
Then what are (you) doing here? /y/ is for males only, not flat-chested futa.
Go back to /d/
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>>2983359
>Then what are (you) doing here?
Traps are the #1 male-anything content, traps must overthrown bara out of this board.
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>>2983360
Not exactly hiding your greed.
You already have three trap threads on /d/. Fuck off.
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>>2983315
ruined in img2img just for you, this is as manly as he gets using anons hypenet

>>2983218
Projecting nothing, look at reddit/twitter/discord/wherever, AI autists acting like they're the most opressed class on the internet. Whining about AI pictures being banned. Whining about artists looking down on them.
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>>2983218
>Actually we don't give two fucks about artists or what happens to them
Your constant spam on /co/ betrays you.
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Less arguing post more cummies.I am getting better results lately. less mangled dicks, actual buttholes not pussies. How are the rest of you doing sisters?
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>>2983441
I've also gotten things like this.
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>>2983442
The cocks are definitely looking better too.
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Anybody able to wank to any of these? Or is it for the sake of teaching AI to draw fap material?
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Does anyone do requests? I just want some general vibes for an art piece that i can't figure out the colors that i want.
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>>2982600
>>2982637
You sound pressed
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>>2983336
>>2983338
>>2983339
Trap/femboyshitters don't deserve shit. You have ten trap threads on /d/. Go back.
>>2983366
>ruined
How rude. I was only trying to help.
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>>2983453
Everything but the trapshit is fappable
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>>2983446
pls give instruction on how to cock accurately, is it just inpainting or are you jumping between models
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>>2979184
To those complaining about AI art not being perfect, give it about a year. The way GANs and deep NNs work you can just keep adding layers and compute for more accurate results.
Deepmind and OpenAI are going to start doing video soon. It's going to be expensive, but that's the next step.
The world is going to get so much cooler and weirder than we thought possible before the AGI kills us.
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Tried a bunch of different combos and finally got a decent looking cock with a decent face
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tried the gape60 model on rentry and it's way better at creating gay sex than novelai (just ignore the gape commands lol)

loves to draw censorbars though so add some negatives for that if you try it

also I'm using it with novelai's vae and I'm not sure how much that matters
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I'm using a custom mixed model that's doing a lot of the legwork. I think the prompt for this one was along these lines:

Positive Prompt:
masterpiece, best quality, (fullbody front view), (homoerotic nude), (comic book art style), (athletic male jock laying down on back naked), ((spreading legs in v-shape)), (in an apartment), 1boy, male focus, looking up, topless, muscular, visible body hair, spiky brown haircut, (detailed abs), (muscular abs), (detailed hands!), (detailed fingers), (red round pecs), (large muscular chest), (big bulge)), (detailed bulge), ((detailed penis!)), detailed anus, ((male anus!!)), ((handsome face!!)), aroused face, blushing, diffused lighting, clean linework, nice shadows, subsurface scattering, hires, highly detailed, art by suyohara, art by mentaiko itto,

Negative Prompt:
lowres, bad anatomy, bad hands, text, error, missing fingers, extra digit, fewer digits, cropped, worst quality, low quality, normal quality, jpeg artifacts, signature, watermark, username, blurry, artist name, fat, narrow waist, futa, multiple penises, floating head, extra head, missing head, extra body, extra chest, extra torso, floating body, missing body, pixelization, censoring

Best of luck anons!
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>>2983499
>>2983624

The prompt I posted was referencing the image in this post >>2983446 fyi.
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Man, AI art >>2983499
still has a way to go before it can create good gay shit.
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Anyone have tips on how to fix hands? I got an incredible result, but the fingers are fucked up.
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>>2983739
I've heard of people tracing over models of hands
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>>2983739
You can try inpainting. That's what I do for faces, eyes, and hands.
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>>2983632
I made this the other night and I don't think it's too bad.
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>>2983632
if you want an actual finished piece that looks nice and 'passes' as real art, you need to go over hundreds of iterations of things and also be really good at imagine manipulation
I do not think this will change in the future; AI can only do so much so you have to meet it halfway
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>>2983765
Can you alter it so he looks more like Alex from Stardew Valley? He reminds me of him.
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Here ya go.
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>>2983766
AI art will be indistinguishable from human art in 3 years.
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Jesus, the amount of time it takes me to get one image looking halfway decent.
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>>2984015
tags? process?
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>>2983844
I mean it can be mostly indistinguishable now but you need to be real good at editing
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>>2984015
He's looking a bit shota
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>>2984144
Link is supposed to be about 14-16.
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I'm just making smug fox twinks all day
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>>2984271
>>2984272
This is a woman
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Trying to get a specific character out of NovelAI is immensely difficult, but it works out pretty well when the character is known just for wearing an extremely tight shirt.

Now, managing him getting fucked by a secondary figure that looks different than him? Impossible.
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>>2984144
That’s a good thing. The quicker the degenerates figure out how to get what they want t. The faster we get unlimited works.
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It refused to fix whats going on downstairs in a meaningful way.
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you can get realistic penises and blowjobs from: https://rentry.org/pyros-sd-model
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how do i generate these after running out of anlases :( I don't wanna pay for more
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>>2984291
Except shota isn't allowed
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>>2984368
>Local install
Nvidia GPU: https://rentry.org/voldy | https://github.com/AbdBarho/stable-diffusion-webui-docker
AMD GPU: https://rentry.org/sd-nativeisekaitoo | https://rentry.org/sdamd | https://rentry.org/ayymd-stable-diffustion-v1_4-guide
CPU: https://rentry.org/cputard
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these are all from the same prompt without inpainting

it's not perfect but I feel like penises are way better
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>>2984371
Shota is allowed here, just not preteen boys. Teen shota is fine.
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>>2982619

Mate, I'm not worried about my job. I've drawn NSFW furry art for 20 years now and I know I'm always going to have a reliable clientele.

But I also have a BFA, and knowledge in art history and in copyright law, and you could not be more wrong.

You are wrong, and there WILL be a DMCA reckoning of this technology -- probably lampooned by a larger image firm, or perhaps Disney, when it comes right down to it.

You mark my words.
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>>2984488
There is no such thing as teen shota, stop creating alternative facts
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>>2984488
>uh acktually i'm a ephebepbegphile
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I`m still learning, what would be some good prompts to use with this image to make something decent?
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>>2984569
>gross birthing hips
Scrap that shit entirely
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>>2983129
Can you upload again? The link expired.
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>>2984529
>There is no such thing as teen shota, stop creating alternative facts

筋ショタ It means muscle-shota or teen-shota. It's the kind of stuff that is often posted here and is still called shota on pixiv. Think of stuff like Camp Buddy, clearly underage, but not pre-teen.
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>>2984622
It's a stretch so you can consider muscled kids allowed.
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>>2984488
Shota is not allowed here. However, shota is defined by pre-pubescent traits. Therefore, “preteens” and early teens can technically pass as not being shota based on particular features. Features such as pubic hair, muscle development, dick/ball size, foreskin retraction or production of semen.

It’s very hard to distinguish an adult from a child due to the presence of those features - regardless of baby facedness or height etc. Style is a thing, shaving.is a thing, midgets are a thing and femboys are a thing. Anyways yaoi is absolutely littered with underage characters as 90% of anime is based on high schoolers or lower.
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>>2984705
The point I'm making is that "shota" is not only used to refer to pre-teen boys. It is also used to refer to the older teens that are posted here.
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>>2984705
>It’s very hard to distinguish an adult from a child due to the presence of those features

It's actually not that hard, you described it yourself. Just refrain to stay in the grey area, or in doubt, don't post.
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>>2984820
Source?
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>>2984872
Made it with NovelAI
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Decent
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>>2984592
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/e2a30e66314111ba7a31180bc88f370420221111100506/c1968f745388df88f01e029912ed8beb20221111100541/15d2d3
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gape60 model and cutesexyrobutts hypernetwork (0.263 strength) with novelai vae and clip skip set to 2
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I've decided to put up with in painting. It's pretty good with fixing large mistake but at some point, the diminishing return sets.
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Easy anime boys: mix f222.ckpt, anything.ckpt, sd1.5 and the homoerotic model from the unstable diffusion discord
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These are one-shot text2img
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Please generate Chris Evans
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Anyone can guide me how can create nswf art bara on Stable Diffusion?
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>>2983251
>his

lol, you're not fooling anyone with that samefagging
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>>2984705
Shota isn't really prepubescent. It refers to pubescent as well.
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>>2984501
And those companies will do what exactly? Any asshole with a GPU can run these programs. There's nothing anyone can do to stop horny faggots from downloading images, training models on them, and generating images. It really isn't much different than me drawing something after having seen lots of images and getting inspired.
These images are trash though, and they will be trash for a long time. Artists are not getting replaced anytime soon. And when they are done crying about this, and move on to the next insane rant, they will have some new incredibly cool tools at their disposal.
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"squish"
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>>2983765
What was the prompt for this?
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After a bit of messing around, managed to get this
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>>2985414
Not that anon, but the difference is between just running the programs for personal use, and selling it. There's been a huge upsurge in "AI artists" trying to sell the porn they generate and hiding that it's AI based. If the AI they're using is trained on other porn artists then they are basically able to generate similar content of endless variation at a much higher capacity than an artist that actually has to draw from scratch. Pieces like the ones in this thread would take hours for an artist to draw, only moments for the AI to generate. In the time to draw one of these pieces by hand, an AI can generate hundreds. And it literally can't exist without consuming our work first. You understand why artists feel angry, threatened, and used?
If this technology just stayed free and was used for individuals messing around? Not as big a deal. But a lot of people immediately jumped on this shit to make money, and not only that, get high up their own asses calling themselves "AI artists" or "prompt artists" or whatever.
A human eyeball looking at art for inspiration is different from uploading the jpeg into a program and you're just being obtuse if you can't see how that's different.
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Apparently you can do this with Novel AI's Furry model, but I haven't figured it out yet
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>>2985667
I or anyone not retarded can instantly recognize stable-diffusion generated images. The machines might get better, but the images generated suck. They will take an artist touching them up to look halfway decent. Look at this trash. This poor boy has two nutsacks.
The fact is, some artists will use "AI" as a tool to help them produce better work faster. And others will cry and bitch. A bunch of twitter "artists" feel angry, threatened, and used every morning, and it's because they spend all day making a drawing only to sell it for $25, when rent costs $100 a day. We know they are mooching on someone else, and we don't respect them.
Sorry, we aren't gonna all stop progress so a handful of shitty twitter artists can keep drawing furry porn and make less than rent. Not that we could stop it if we wanted to.
Artists that can't draw, and over rely on tech aren't replacing anyone anytime soon.
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>>2985684
This post looks like was written by an AI
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>>2985682
To get this you're either going to have to pay for Novel AI or wait for someone to leak the furry model
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>>2984290
>Trying to get a specific character out of NovelAI is immensely difficult
>second character impossible
That's what puts me off with this. I don't want random anime boys, I want specific characters. It's been fun, but I guess I'll jump back in in a few years when it's possible.
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*blocks your path*
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>>2985687
Or just by a very mentally degraded person.
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>>2985763
Yeah, I've tried. It just ends up making the secondary people have the traits described, and sometimes, robs the subject of those traits.

If you're looking for the right scenario, nothing beats real artists in this case.
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sad and embarrassed because we can see his small cock.
It's surprisingly difficult to keep it small, I guess all the cocks are mostly trained on porn.
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^^ That was from the Modern Disney model (with a lot of img2img and out/inpainting)
I then sent it to a selection of other models.
Nai
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Anything V3
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spiderverse with *spiderverse style*
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SD 1.5
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...yiff
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dont know if animal hybrid boys are allowed but here r some big titted bulls anyway
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