How come this board is called /yaoi/ and not /bara/? Whenever someone posts twink or trap jannies take it down and retards fill up the thread with meltdowns, even tho most yaoi has one or the other.Doesn’t make sense me thinks.
>>2991668And before you say >traps belong on /d/Yeah but they belong here too if you don’t like them then just scroll past it and don’t enlarge the image. That’s what I do when I see fetish stuff I don’t wanna see like piss.
>>2991669And the rules on what’s an acceptable masculine twink and what’s a trap on this board are really unclear is picrel okay? Or is it too feminine?
>>2991670How about this one the rules say no dickgirls but yes clearly drawn with pectorals and before you say>no boobless dickgirks A human being with a penis and without boobs is male
>>2991671Last but not least how come feminine men are okay once they’re muscular? When someone posts like picrel nobody complains all the sudden.
>>2991669>Yeah but they belong here tooThat's not for you or me to decide, the rules say they don't belong and until they're changed that will be the case.>>2991670What is a trap may vary depending on who you ask, especially considering that different artists may draw the same character in different ways, but something like OP's pic is clearly a boobless woman, look at that face and hand that's beyond just being a feminine guy, even Astolfo looks more like a man than that, that's stepping on Boku no Pico territory without having the shota excuse.>>2991672I don't see anything feminine in that pic just a weird face, but to answer your question muscles usually make them look less feminine, but again it depends on the artist.I also disagree with this idea that muscles = bara, to me bara are muscles taken to an extreme and fat hairy guys, that kind of style. That said, yaoi is usually used as an all encompassing term, the board doesn't exclude anything not mentioned in the rules.Lastly, I don't get people complaining about too much bara, you can find twinks and more feminine men in the board, just looking at the catalog you can see some pics used in OPs and you'll also find them across various threads, but if you can't find what you can you can always post it yourself as long as it's not against the rules.
>>2991672Anyways sorry to be a humongous bore & please don’t freak out this isn’t a bait thread I just want to enjoy my yaoi and all aspects of it including the twinks and traps without having to go to /d/ and sift thru giants getting fucked by bugs and shit like that lol
>>2991673A boobless adult human with a penis is a man big hip + hairless + anime face ≠ woman
>>2991675Sorry but the first image looks like a flat chested girl. If there’s a dick, you can’t even see it, and the text doesn’t even hint that it’s a boy. And there’s been plenty of twink threads here — the fanart of other charas you’ve shared can be found in fandom threads. Just lurk moar.
>>2991668Long time gay poster hereBecause trannies unironically weaponized traps/femboys. They intentionally seek out twinks in social circles and encourage them to either transition or hop on e to retain a youthful feminine appearance. Masculine gays/tops don't want this since majority of them prefer twinks and /pol/ also doesn't want this since a weak frail male is a perfect individual to radicalize. This sounds like schizo talk but it unironically happens a lot in echo chambers like Discord, group chats, card shops ect."EggTrans slang for a person who hasn't realized they're trans yet. Usually they show telltale behavior of a trans person despite not knowing, like 'ironically' crossdressing or writing shitty fanfiction about trans people. The word comes from the idea that they haven't "cracked out of their shell", like an egg."https://www.reddit.com/r/egg_irl/Basically crossdressing/looking feminine gives them an excuse to gaslight you repeatedly into transitioning fully, even if it was just a fetish like it has been historically and is the reason why it now causes so much discourse in the homosexual community. Fuck, look at /lgbt/ right now and you'll see that gays are confined to /gaygen/ now, anyone else not there jumped ship years ago and migrated to /fit/ unironically.
>>2991673>Astolfo looks more like a manNo
>>2991673>AstolfoYou sure senpai?
>>2991715Same shit
>>2991720If you're a str8oid coombrain maybe
>>2991718>>2991713in the anime Astolfo has the body structure of a guy. it's the fanart that makes him look really really girly>>2991696yeah its the trannies trying to psyop people into liking their deformity, I thought it was a meme but it is realalso they are delusional thinking hormones will make them "retain youthfulness" or whatever, women dont age well and trannies age worse.
>>2991735Wow, one out-of-context screenshot where he doesn't look like a flat futa. Sure showed us.
>>2991691>>2991696>>2991749holy shit take your medication>muh trans conspiracythis isn't /v/
>>2991757(You) first
>>2991713>>2991749>>2991761I'm the anon you first replied to. I didn't say he looks like a man in a vacuum, I said he looks more like a man than that guy in OP's pic , a comparison to point out that in no way that person in OP's pic looks like a guy no matter how much you stretch the definition.>>2991718See above.>>2991675I'm don't want to get into this kind of argument again, I already did in another thread, so I'll just say that just like what is or isn't a trap may vary depending on who you ask, the same is true in this case and to me that looks like a woman, not even a very feminine guy for the reasons I pointed out previously. If you mean biologically though, no boobs + penis isn't enough, if you don't have the rest of the male reproductive system inside your body you're not a man.
>>2991749yes I did show you, you're a memebrained dumbass he looks exactly the same in the whole show, its called being on-model
>>2991668Bara its totally irrelevant outside this board (Myreadingmanga doesn't count).You will never see people losing their shit over a "masculine/bishonen" character and even If the character its not that androgynous artists are going to make him look more girly anyways.You literally should never care about this board, barafags are the most powerless niche ever and trapshit its everywhere.
>>2991766Only a few people constantly scream about traps, there's plenty of non-bara content in the board, plenty of different flavors for everyone. Truth is, most people who come here don't give a shit about these discussions, they just want to see porn they like and ignore what they don't like just like in every other place on the internet.
>>2991762>>2991764That's not a man, this is. You're just memebrained.
>>2991766Aren't you the one going around every thread with this copypasta? Saying how everyone who doesn't like your tranny garbage is "lusting over neo-nazis" while typing racist remarks like it's 2016?>>2991767I wouldn't care if these fucking Karens learned to follow the fucking rules. Traps fall under strangegay and lean into shota territory. They don't fucking belong here.
>>2991671>>2991672Honestly I think you just showcased the problem right there. Traps/femboys typically have a specific body type in porn. Small waist, wide hips/thighs, chest/nipples that look like small boobs. The people calling traps flat futas aren't wrong, that's usually exactly how they're drawn. There's a clear difference in body types between the two images you use as examples, and it's not just the muscle. I think traps can be drawn to have more masculine bodies, it's just rare to see art like that. Also it's just kinda obvious to me that a good portion of people who like men won't be attracted to characters who are supposed to pass as teenage girls.
>>2991668>janniesJannies would actually delete stuff, what you see are faggots who don't make the cut even for being jannies raising a shitstorm whenever they see something they don't like.
>>2991776>look like boobsgo through this fucking board and take a shot every time you see ridiculous man boobs drawn on "gay" pornyou will die from alcohol poisoning>le flat futaId tell you to take your meds but you shouldn't mix these kinds of pills with alcohol
>>2991769>They don't fucking belong here.I know anon and I agree, but those discussions are pointless, all we can do is report and hope the jannies do their job.
>>2991769>Saying how everyone who doesn't like your tranny garbage is "lusting over neo-nazis"Nowadays one of the major reason to be "masculine" its because you hate faggots and see homosexuality as a weakness, simply as that, every single man that you want to fuck probably hate you.
>>2991876Not even flamboyant feminine fags like others like them, most fags like masculine men that has always been the case.
>>2991934You can't be really masculine without hating gays.
>>2991668Traps aren't a part of yaoi. Bishounens and ikemen are.
>>2991766You hang around the male str8oid circle too much. Trapshit are irrelevant when it comes to yaoi and gay porn.
>>2991955>You hang around the male str8oid circle too much.Its the only market that matters, fujos have a bit of power but nobody cares about gay men.
>>2991668>>2991673>That's not for you or me to decide, the rules say they don't belong and until they're changed that will be the case.>or meexcept the "boobless dickgirl" patrol goes after anything popularrly known as a twink or bishonen in general, not just traps and makeup/crossdressing boob-implant trannies. so anything that isn't a very specific type of men that the backseat jannies will instantly jump out of the wooodwork to state ITS NOT BARA ITS JUST NORMAL MEN will spam the strangegay rule to gatekeep everything but "totally not bara" and then complain jannies aren't enforcing his headcanon interpretation.not much different from Karens on Twitter going on a diatribe over Bridget being called male and spamming reports to take down every artist who dares commit this sin.fortunately, the persistence of non-bara content (as in, the absolutely criminal rule-violating content that jannies aren't cleaning up) is still uup and running, therefore proving that non-bara content dooesn't automatically fall under strangegay, and therefore proving said patrol wrong.the only damage done are pathetic users who give up posting here because they got filtered by backseat jannies. they only got their own cowardice to blame for being intimidated by pretend cops and are probably tourists who would eventually post actual strangegay given further chance since they doubt their own judgement of what qualifies as actual strangegay despite being made aware of the content labels on what they fetch to post here.
>>2992007to make things even more ironic, threads about games like FF7R, Zelda, Genshin Impact and Nu Carnival go the extra mile of having fanart showcasing uber-masculinized versions of the cast in spite of their canon appearance just to appease said patrol, only to end up still having Karens calling the manager to burn the thread down since one or two outliers dared to post official art or at least canon-accurate versions.
>>2992008furthermore, bara content in this board usually showcases feminine traits and fetishes such as boobpecs, groping, paizuri and breastfeeding, to the point some of it even has lactation, not to mention the crossdressing and bikinis.as such, it's pretty evident the strangegay rule doesn't work either way, despite the backseat patrol being so hellbent on dying on this hill.
>>2991831Jannies don't do shit if they're willing to keep this thread up>>2991991>it's more marketable therefore goodFuta and het are "marketable", doesn't mean they're relevant to yaoi and gay porn.
All I want are lithe twinks like the dudes from Free! (or, in some art, the guys from Voltron) crossdressing and fucking each other. No huge muscles or big asses, no femininity. Swimmer's bodies, defined abs and pecs without looking like a washboard with tits, etc.I find maybe six posts a month here that fit that description. It's wearying.
>>2991668>another draw a girl call it a boy thread
>>2992083based
Homosexuality its just a replacement for women, nobody cares about masculinity, this board don't count
>>2992144t.trapfag
>>2992144t.mentally ill
>>2992144it's only a replacement if you're just a coomer who can jump bertween fetishes on a whim. Even so, at least actual bis have standards, unlike "anything goes" coomers.Actual homosexuality hates feminine traits, and while this doesn't lead to outright despise towards women, it's expected of gays to respect them as strangers but feel zero romantic and sexual interest on them.As a consequence, feminine clothing / makeup / implants are a turnoff for gays. Nobody cares about femininity, not masculinity.
>>2992209>Actual homosexuality hates feminine traitsI agree, as I said before even feminine gays don't feel attraction to other feminine gays.
>>2992210Bulls do, however.But they are either bi or degenerates.
>>2991668The only retards are those who don't keep their sissy fetish threads in /d/
>>2992250>>2992094Go fuck yourselves
>How come this board is called /yaoi/ and not /bara/ Whenever someone posts twinkI'm 100% with you so far>or trapoh noI'm a really really big fan of cute masculine and feminine guys, and I'm really disappointed in what I find here... but I don't think more drawings of women with penises would improve my experience.
>>2992209>it's only a replacement if you're just a coomer who can jump bertween fetishes on a whimThey are a rising market and probably surpass gay men at this point.
>>2991696Trans man here.So due to the behavior of a handful of loud, chronically-online trans women, you 1) demonize all trans people in general, 2) use what they do, supposedly, to justify not having traps, or shota, cunt boys/trans men on/y? Because what? It causes ~disharmony~ in the gay community? Like some of us aren’t also gay and on here?
>>2992275Try posting futas on /h/ or /e/ and see what happens.
>>2992083And that’s exactly why I don’t think there should be so many rules on here about what “counts as yaoi.” If the artist created the character or drawing and reasonably imaged the character to be a man/boy/male, I don’t see why it shouldn’t be on here.
>>2992277Why should what happens on other boards effect what we can and can’t post on here? If we’re going to be all anti-censorhip, don’t-like-don’t-look, why’s everyone trying to justify banning something they personally don’t like?
>>2992277Everyone outside this board considers traps gay (and again faggot, no actual straight men would prefer a dick over a pussy).CURRENTLY homosexuality its turning into a alternative for women instead of really caring about "men's beauty", there is real dudes having sex with each other purely by this new concept.
>>2992282Can anyone actually explain the logic behind the posting rules that doesn’t devolve into weird ass conspiracy theories? Or is this board actually just making decisions to try to appease different factions of people?
>>2992254This anon gets it and his pic is a perfect example to compare with OP's pic, showing a guy with a slim body who despite the lack of or few muscles looks clearly masculine, as opposed to OP's pic that's looks too much like a boobless woman.
>>2992275No one needs to justify anything, it's the board's rules there's nothing more to that. Just like you don't post /y/ content on the other porn boards, you shouldn't post content meant to be posted in other boards here, the different boards exist for a reason.>>2992280>Why should what happens on other boards effect what we can and can’t post on here?It's not about affecting what we can or can't post here, it's about seeing what happens when you break the rules of those boards. We're simply unlucky that this board's mods/jannies aren't very active otherwise this thread should've been nuked since it serves no purpose other than pointlessly arguing over something we users don't get to decide, we just follow the rules or break them and it should be a given that people would be unhappy about someone breaking the rules since they don't come here to see the infringing content, they'd go to the designated board for that if they wanted to.>>2992282>Everyone outside this board considers traps gayCorrection, everyone except actual gays consider traps gay, just like they consider trans gay, lesbians gay, etc, they keep using it as an umbrella term when it's not, if you're not a biologically born male who likes other biologically born males you're not gay. No, trans men aren't men, even they know that otherwise they wouldn't call themselves "trans" men, they'd just call themselves men, but that doesn't get them the attention and special treatment they crave.>>2992294>Can anyone actually explain the logic behind the posting rulesAsk a mod or jannie, I doubt anyone here is a mindreader, at best we can offer our own logic for it, which may not be the one used to create the rule. My logic is that this is a gay board, for gay stuff, real men, not traps, not dickgirls, not cuntboys, not trans, not anything except biological men.
>>2992275Except it's not a minority when a vast majority of them behave like this. Look at /lgbt/ right now and tell me that behaviour is not cult-like, who also frequently raid other boards just as badly as /pol/
I'd rather this be the Male board rather than the non-female board.
>>2992308okay but unless it gets deleted, it's not a woman. if we start banning things not for what they actually are, but according to personal taste and subjective definitions of what constitues a "real man" then it becomes a Karen championship of who gets to scream harder and scare off the most people with empty threats of banning for content that doesn't violate rules (i.e. doesn't get deleted by moderation). longer hair, dick too short, muscles not so defined, not enough facial / body hair, and so on become the goalpost-moving standards for justifying eliminating everything that doesn't fit the checklist of Patrick Fillion's style.Now, jumping in front of jannies to scream bloody murder about a male character who identifies as male and has a penis because he isn't "man enough" for you under the excuse of "at least I'm doing something" is an ironic move of comitting rule violations (impersonating staff / announcing reports) for the sake of enforcing another rule.
>>2992312>I doubt anyone here is a mindreader, at best we can offer our own logic for it>My logic is that this is a gay board, for gay stuff, real men>real menNope, this isn't justification for applying freestyle interpretations off what you personally consider a real man.Being naturally male, identifying as male and having a dick are objective metrics for what defines a man.There is zero need for being a mindreader or doing philosophical exegesis of the sticky. Like you said, no one needs to justify anything, so as long as it doesn't get handled by mods, then it qualifies as /y/-compliant. Simple as that.
>>2992402Trans ideology has no place in a literature that has spent decades revolving around biological male x male fiction and actively backed by forces that would discriminate against you at every turn. You already have futa and cuntboy depictions accurately representing what Japan views you as and neither are allowed on the board. Unless you can subvert the entire nation of Japan and not only their patriarchal views, but the cis women who rampantly draw the said yaoi who are probably TERFs in your eyes, you're fighting an uphill battle.
>>2991668I like to consider traps/femboys in the past couple years as a heterosexual/bisexual fetish. There was always a small niche of people who behaved like this but the last decade has been like another sexual revolution with all sexualities on the rise massively. It's now been geared towards men that would never publicly admit they were more than incidentally homosexual and are so introverted to the idea that the male bottom has to look like a female as much as possible for them to mentally cope. Borderline frat boy culture where "any hole is a goal", "as long as the balls don't touch it's not gay" and shit like "goth mommy tomboy gf (femboy)" has fried people's minds, and it doesn't help that porn artists capitalize on this seeing who can make the most effeminate/bimbo looking male possible for profit. These people do not respect the male physique and cannot tell the difference between a twink and a femboy, so they will flood the threads not knowing the difference. The only solution really is to draw clear lines of what is acceptable in the sticky and what isn't, kind of like a kinsley scale of masculine and feminine yaoi images and draw the line of what exactly is acceptable. Without a clear guideline there will always be discourse on this board with regards to what's a trap, femboy or futa.
>>2992401You say this when in this very thread there are people complaining about the board being dominated by bara, acting as if there's no space for anything else when you'd know it isn't true if you visited threads. You only ever see people complaining about traps, cuntboys and shota in general.>longer hairThere is a thread for that up right now >>2971871 and you only see one complaint about a single post, seems like people like the thread.>dick too shortThere is a thread for that up now too >>2991420 and of the 3 people who wrote something, only one said it's boring while the other two like it.>muscles not so definedThough not specifically about this, here's a Link thread where OP's pic fits that >>2990481, it also has quite the variety of body types in the replies.>not enough facial / body hairMen with no facial or body hair are so common in art that you can probably find at least one in every thread.>eliminating everything that doesn't fit the checklist of Patrick Fillion's style.It's laughable that you think this is what people want when every single thread that the anon who keeps posting his stuff visits has people complaining about it.>Now, jumping in front of jannies to scream bloody murderMentioning that something is against the rules, especially when asked why you're against something isn't jumping at the jannies, especially when it was already mentioned in this thread how they're not very active in this board.>Being naturally male, identifying as male and having a dick are objective metrics for what defines a man.There's nothing objective about identifying as something, it's as subjective as anything that only a mindreader could prove.>There is zero need for being a mindreader or doing philosophical exegesis of the sticky.That anon asked if anyone could explain the logic behind the rules, so yes there is a reason because we're not the ones who made then so we have no way of knowing without being a mindreader or asking the ones who did.
>>2992426Why you fags can't give up and accept that your precious "men's beauty" its totally outdated and the new thing is discount women?Worst of all, you don't do shit to change this, trapshit its probably the standard now.
It seems that trannies manage to have a bigger influence in just a bunch of years than fags in decades
>>2992406>Trans ideology has no placeI agree, but what does it have to do with my post?A natural male who identifies as male and has a dick is a full cishet. There is zero space left for interpretation into trans ideology.>You already have futa and cuntboy depictions accurately representing what Japan views you as and neither are allowed on the board.None of this is what I just described tho. My beeef is with people who look at artstyles they don''t like and call it "not real men" just because they like a different artstyle. However, the very nature of this board as yaoi, as in, fictional depictions of men, relies on the artstyles of a bajillion different artists.Once we step out of the boundaries of objective metrics such as the ones I described, it boils down to a matter of not liking shit therefore it doesn't comply. Not only it's absurdly subjective and elitist, it goes against the very notion of trying to filter ffemininity out of the board considering the bear counterparts have a free pass for crossdressing, boobs, milking, pregnancy and a lot of other trans bullshit.
>>2992437>You say this when in this very thread there are people complaining about the board being dominated by bara, acting as if there's no space for anything else when you'd know it isn't true if you visited threadsNot my problem anon, I'm not responsible for other people's complaints even if you disagree with me and them simultaneously, turning this into a faction war. I don't represent or speak for them. In fact, I completely agree with the sentiment of wiping out any and all shit like implants, feminine apparel, makeup, identifying as a girl and so on, both for bears and twinks.>Mentioning that something is against the rules"mentioning" and "lecturing" have completely different meanings anon. browbeating people for posting twinks in any shape or form under a catch-all goalpost-moving term of "boobless dickgirl" is something that has been happening for years in this board and all it takes is a single ctrl-F to find it at least once in almost every thread. it's a veiled attempt to steer the board into eliminating twinks by calling them "not real men".Want realistic men? Go to /hm/, there you'll find all the realism of IRL men. Fictional characters don't have to adhere to realism>There's nothing objective about identifying as something, it's as subjective as anything that only a mindreader could prove.>we're not the ones who made then so we have no way of knowing without being a mindreader or asking the ones who did.What you're doing is muddying the waters by saying there is no way to determine what is a real man or not, but since you are so adamant in enforcing this board needs "real men" so much, you'll do the noble sacrifice of deciding it for everyone else.As such, I can only expect you to apply for moderation. Enforcing a requirement of realism goes above the mod staff's intent and consequentially operates as backseat modding aka staff impersonation. And not knowing the staff's intent isn't free grounds for reinterpreting it and enforcing that
>>2992451oh and please take the "you" as a rhetorical device, before you take offense with it and say "whoa why are you accusing me of doing all that".This applies to whoever is trying to pull this shitty stunt, not you personally.
>>2992447Because they will never be able to emulate it in their life, the best they can do is degrade it to a point where their abhorrently low limits are the standard. The biological male physique will always trump anything trans creatures will put out, no amount of prescription medication will change this
>>2992454>The biological male physique will always trump Again, nobody cares about "men's beauty", at least not for homoerotic reasons, the only people that worship masculinity are neo-nazis that want to fucking kill you.
Trapfags like to gaslight /y/ and even /c,/ and say trap/femboyshit was always allowed despite /d/ being made around the same time for this very fucking reason. They used to post this irc chat in a desperate bid to prove their boobless dickgirl fetish totes belongs in /y/ until someone told them @Asuka, the janny in question, isn't a /y/ janny and doesn't even know /y/ culture. Inb4 "don't need to be a chef to say the food sucks" or some retarded ass grade school comeback.So if you see someone tell you traps were always a gay male fetish or fujo fetish and were always part of /y/, call them the fuck out and point out the fact they were traditionally deleted on the spot or spammed with pics of bara, gore, trapshit abuse and superior twinks. Don't let them get away with their historical revisionism.
>>2992320You're posting this FTM shit on purpose, aren't you?>>2992460>whining about "neo-nazis">calls anyone and everyone the n- word like it's going out of style
>>2992451>browbeating people for posting twinksI at least haven't done that, I even shared that twink Link thread, unless you're implying something like OP's pic is a twink, in which case we'll have to agree to disagree. I have nothing against twinks and I just ignore the fetishes I don't like that aren't against the board's rules.>What you're doing is muddying the waters by saying there is no way to determine what is a real man or notNo, I'm not. I singled out your "identify as male" comment because that's a thought and as such can't be objective. As for the second quote, it's talking about not knowing what is the logic behind the board's rules, it has nothing to do with determining what a real men is, only with the fact that we don't know the thought process the mods had when they created them, that's all.>but since you are so adamant in enforcing this board needs "real men"I'm not trying to enforce anything, if you go back to my post where I said "real men", I explicitly said it was just my thoughts on why the rule exists to give a possible answer to that anon's question. I didn't claim it is the true reason, it's just my opinion and I didn't say people should agree with it, I even said before that that if one wishes to know the true reason they should ask the mods, so I don't know where you got the impression I'm trying to enforce anything. You're the one who seems to be trying to mud the waters by mixing parts of my posts that are not related and either misunderstanding me or making things up to fit your narrative, so to clarify, I'm just participating on the discussion, sharing my opinion, not pushing anything on anyone, I even said multiple times in this thread that it's not up to us to decide (or push if you will) anything since we're just users, not mods. I'm also not turning this into a faction war, again I'm just sharing my views on different points made by different anons.
>>2992460guys are hot, and you don't need to fall for the 'wanting to be a woman' dreck to like your same gender. Unfortunate if this bothers you or you're otherwise incapable of understanding it.
>>2991668Hey OP is this you?
>>2992498What are you doing whining to the entire site for, OP?
>>2992499The fact you've been at this for at least a year is very sad, OP. Please get help.Forcing fujos and gay men to accept your sissy tranny fetish will not fill the void in your heart,
>>2992253Cope and seethe. Traps and femboys aren't yaoi or gay
>>2992255You could say that hetporn surpasses and is more marketable than trap/femboyshit
>>2991671Shota
>>2991672That's a bishie/ikemen/twink which has always been a staple in yaoi and is still loved and popular with fujos to this day. They don't look like chicks with dicks because of their toned bodies and handsome faces.
>>2991991Trap/femboyshit aren't marketable towards gay men and fujos. They don't care or want to see drawn boobless girls being called boys in their male focus content.
God I love you /y/. Don't ever change! I lost a friend to the trans bullshit, and they used to be a perfectly normal gay at first. After that they ended up hating me just for not following down the same stupid rabbit hole. Even when I tried to be supportive. Also purged their friends list ect. to a bunch of others. It is definitely a mental thing.
>>2992523I also lost lost a friend that way, though they developed a mean case of TDS and started getting political, what once was actually fun conversation became lectures on the left wing boogieman of the day or arguments over her believing left wing conspiracies (it was 2016.)She was less interested in me over time and it was clear she was spending so much time with her new internet twitter crowd.The breaking point for me was when at that point we had very little common ground to actually talk on but she lit up on some guys project on the aids epidemic. She was acting like some historian of LGBT and was talking with the presenter for too long. At some point she got a pulse nightclub tattoo and the last time I saw her she was using the men's room during graduation when I was waiting to use the urinal, of course she had to wait for the toilet. We looked at each other for a second, and said nothing.
>>2992505>>2992509I never see a "bishonen" character getting any attention
>>2992537Then you've never seen yaoi or even fujobait
>>2992506By trapfag logic, hetshit should be here too since it's more "marketable" than yaoi. After all, if these gluttonous Karens don't get their way and never have their dickgirl fetish validated, then everyone else is "lusting over neo-nazis"
>>2992537Because they don't appeal to male str8oids like you. Look at big bishie series like Free! or Touken Ranbu
We are truly living in hellish times.
>>2991668/b/ was taken. sorry
>>2992454
>>2992537This has to be the most ridiculous comment I've seen on this board.
>>2992491Mods are useless. They'll keep trapshit and cuntboys up despite them both breaking the rules but god forbid you make posts to complain about them or the inactive mod team themselves.
>>2992402So all those weird fetish threads and cuntboy shit are allowed to stay despite them breaking the rules because mods won't do anything about it? That's good to know, anon. Real good to know you don't care about the quality of the board.>>2992450There is nothing natural about a man with birthing hips and budding breasts
>>2992642>>2992643Give up.
>Give up.
Yaoi and Bara are narrative genres. Anyone making visual associations is retarded. The mods are not referees. Your personal engagement is not content, it's nobody problem but your own.
>>2992663It's a problem when the board state has massively devolved due to this discourse, resulting in archived/derailed threads and borderline spam behaviour
>>2992537Everytime I see someone behave as ridiculous as you I'm just going to coin the phrase troonjoshi from now on
>>2992663Agreed. Trapfags complain about bara tits spouting breast milk all the time, not understanding the irony that they fap to underage girls with dicks.>>2992672Blame trapfags.
>>2992673>>2992639I really never see a "masculine/bishonen" character get any attention, its always traps
>>2992681You've never read yaoi or watched fujobait anime
>>2992672>borderline spam behaviourI wouldn't call dozens of barafag seethe pics every single thread borderline
>>2992683Just doujins
>>2991696>they hated him because he spoke the truth
>>2992537is this bait?
>>2992687That explains so much
>>2992655Where are the "real men"?
>>2992693>>2992694>straggot porn sites
>>2992695Who knows myreadingmanga?
>>2992696Gay men and fujos. Those who love and appreciate 2D/fictional men and yaoi.
>>2992681See >>2992556>>2992687Yikes. Probably never watch shonen anime or play video games with handsome male characters. Just straggot coomshit.
>>2992695>borders on pedoshit>one of them is a canon trannyNot doing a good job of hiding your futa fetish are you Karen?
>>2992480>@Asuka, the janny in question, isn't a /y/ janny and doesn't even know /y/ culture>source: my ass newfag detected, jannies are universal for all boards you fucking moronGo back to derailing cm and y threads on lolcow you filthy tourist
>>2992693>>2992694I'd show some, but I don't want people like you anywhere near the things I like.
>>2992724Bridget is tagged as a male, If not as a shemale or a rule 63 version, just a few artist care about Strive.
>>2992778>porn tags dictate canon
>>2992776Oomfie, what were you doing in /vg/ and /trash/? I thought you said you were better than boards like that. Hmm?>>2992498>>2992499>>2992501
>>2992788Porn isn't canon, If it were then yaoi can't exist because the 200% of japanese male characters are straight without a second thought
>>2992794That's... what I was saying anon. Do you not know how to read?
>>2992796Canon doesn't matter in porn
>>2992798So women with dicks are men now because it's the author's headcanon?
>>2991668>retardsIt's a single deluded samefaggot with a backseat janny complex. He even got banned early in this thread (https://archived.moe/y/post/2991715/) but immediately evaded his ban to continue sperging out.
>>2992987Shouldn't you be crying to random boards?
>>2992987>traps are loved by everyone!>it's only one haterRetard and delusional
>>2992987>>2992789
>>2991668I hate barafags so much so for shitting up the gay boards incessantly. Unironically worse than femboy and trap trannies. Nobody knows how to do anything moderate when it comes to fag porn anymore, its either femboy uwu bullshit or full on hard gay faggotry to "keep the straggots out". None of this shit is grounded in reality and it pisses me off. God forbid someone likes an actual realistic looking male these days that isn't a trap-like femboy or full on beefcake with sixteen pack and a beard that looks like he is pushing 40. >hurr durr you posted a man that isn't gachimuchi-tier buff guy STRAGGOT, TRANNY, MODS MODS MODSliterally the cancer that killed /y/ and turned it into a husk, and the jannies being complicit in this bullshit need to shotgun blast kurt cobain style. Can't have a normal, human looking male that most of the world's gay or bisexual population finds attractive, only femboys in dresses and barashit. I can barely find yaoi anymore that doesn't fit these two archetypes. Fuck all of you. This is why all of you are single, lonely losers because you only like the most extreme of body types.Also having to post sample sized images because this board only allows 4mb max uploads fucking sucks too. Its not 2007 anymore, up the fucking filesize
>>2993045Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out now
ITT: gluttonous staightfags that think they're bi because they fell for a literal meme pissing and shitting themselves they can't take one of the few andro-sexual boards/forums/spaces there even are and flood IT with pictures of women, too; embittered trannies, their chasers, and degenerate, psy-opped sissy fetishists dilating they can't co-opt yet another gay board/forum/community for their disgusting, execution-worthy fetish>>2993045I'd definitely say the trapfags are even worse than the "MUST BE HUMAN BALOON ANIMAL, OR IT'S PEDO" bara schizos, but other than that this here is exactly the fucking takeespecially with not being able to find anything good of actual, normal dudes because of this shit, you absolutely nailed it, anon>>2993046faggot
>>2993056>writing all that>calling other people shitzoids Okay anon
>>2993064>calling others "lusting over neo nazis">uses the n wordOkay anon
>>2993045I can understand your complaint about the other extreme, but why do you people keep talking as if one or the other is dominating the board and there's nothing else to look at? Even by just looking at the catalog you don't only see either trap or bara content and if you actually enter threads about themes you like you'll most often than not find enough variety.Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line between a normal looking guy and bara?
>>2993056They are the biggest non-straight market right now, "gay men" have null power and no company cares about them, you can call me a consoomer but money and buyers are the only thing that matters.
>>2993112Traps aren't gay and only straight men care about them. They are not part of the yaoi market. Gay men and fujos don't care about them.
>>2993112>t. only browses str8 sites to know this
>>2993112Women don't care about traps, gays don't care about traps, only a small handful of straight/bi guys care about them. No matter how much you try to deny it the amount of people who consume that kind of content is smaller than those who consume gay content, maybe even smaller than those who consume furry content.
>>2993133Okay who fucking cares? I’m not insecure about how many people jerkoff to the same thing as me (unlike you obviously) I just wanna see them cuties on this board instead of the disgusting fetish board lol
>>2993133>only a small handful of straight/bi guys care about themThat "small handful" outnumbered "gay men" at this point.
Traps legitimately don't belong here in my opinion. But bara spergs melt down over literally anything that isn't a deformed blob of meat and hair.
>>2991668Awful tricksy way to get a twink thread goingGood job
>>2993154>Okay who fucking cares? I’m not insecure about how many people jerkoff to the same thing as meIt's actually funny how you can shamelessly say that when your post that I replied to was talking about how popular your fetish is.>>2993183Yeah sure, straight guys stopped liking pussy, humanity is doomed because everyone likes dick now.
>>2993187The twinks you're thinking of aren't the "twinks" OP's thinking of
>>2993183This is the equivalent of saying trannies outnumbered girls
>>2993074Sorry anon, haven't checked the thread since I posted (didn't think anyone would respond or care)>Out of curiosity, where do you draw the line between a normal looking guy and bara?A normal looking guy is just that, a normal, usually skinny but not exclusive guy with slight muscles or an average body type. Not ultra muscular beefcake and not femboy twink bullshit.I guess something like this (just pulled a random image off danbooru). Someone you would actually see or be with in real life, and not some hypersexualized version of a person that fetish fags push on people with bara and trap shit.Sure this guy in pic related has anime like fantasy stuff but the body type, hair, etc is mostly normal, believable, and to me hotter than fucking bara or trap uwu shit. If I wanted to see bara, I'd just look at a boomer on facebook's pictures. And if I wanted to see twinks I'd just look at twitter attention whores. But I don't want to see that, I want to see cute boys and men who don't hide their masculinity in dresses or over-emphasize their masculinity. But shit like that is impossible to find on gay boards that aren't sfw. /cm/ I can find somewhat of what I'm looking for but its also pretty difficult.
Skimmed through the thread but all I know is that if you enable trapfaggotry once the entire board would start getting flooded with trapshit. It's also a bit why the fucking yaoi tag on sadpanda is like mostly trapshit and real actual yaoi (some YGO doujin or twisted wonderland) gets downvoted or gets shit ratings.It's like this board just completely hates the notion of fujoshi existing though.Can't have trapshit because that's for straight normalfags, but have to assert this is a GAY SEX BETWEEN *REAL* ANIME MEN BOARD not UGLY TWINKS because that's for WOMEN we like MEN here. Just feels oddly like as if the main reason why yaoi exists isn't even because of fujos but because of barafags in some revisionist attempt
Probably cause if they allowed femboys and traps, it would flood the board.It can be annoying when you want twinks though, which should be allowed
Do you fags even have sex with men to begin with?
>>2991668You're confusing thinks with obviously underage trash and confusing traps with with obviously underage cross -dressing trashYou would do wonders in conservative politics and/or journalism with your ability to get so offended over words you don't know the meaning of
>>2993461Traps are tranny trash and OP is the type to lump twinks in with them
>>2993461>>2993463"Real men" don't sell
>>2993471Real men are the selling point of yaoi, something you annoying straggots forget
>>2993472Traps still sell more
>>2993473Traps are irrelevant to actual yaoi. You'd know this if you bothered to look at sites like myreadingmanga
>>2993474myreadingmanga doesn't count
>>2993475>yaoi site that disproves my narrative doesn't count, only hentai sites for straggots doYour opinion doesn't count.
>>2993479Its the only one?
>>2993473Wow great journalism Tucker Carlson.That unrelated point totally invalidates using the word wrong.If I call sorbet ice cream it is totally okay if more ice cream is sold.Get an education
>>2993475Tucker Carlson in again with another journalistic slam dunk: things that contradict him "don't count".Go back to /pol with all of the other rural shit for brains incels
>>2993501Its don't count because its just one website, check any other website, check Twitter, Pixiv and so on, nobody cares about bishonen and bara.
>>2993519Bishounen and bara are very present in Twitter, Pixiv, Gelbooru, etc. You just follow straggot shit and get reccomended to them more. Plus you never look up or touch yaoi/male content for gays and fujos.
Fuck traps, shit tier straight fetish, but do people really complain about twinks here? I feel like I haven't really seen that. Unless people mix twinks and femboys I don't see why anyone would complain about twinks. Pic rel is what i would consider a twink.
>>2993519You're delusional if you think no one cares about bishounen.
>>2993519>nobody caresNow you can stop with the lies.>inb4 bara has less than trap in one site and bishounen in twoTrap still has less than yaoi in all of them.
>>2993519Are you one of those people who think your shitty rural town of 7000 is an average?
>>2993522Trapfags complain about actual twinks, no different from the ones on /cm/ accusing shotas of being titless tomboys to defend their dickgirl fetish
>>2993475>a site for yaoi "doesn't count"I accept your concession. Off you go now >>>/d/And don't let the door hit your ass on the way out now <3
>>2993519By going to a book store, you don't see trap manga in the bl/shounen ai section but bishies instead. Therefore, traps are irrelevant and the general don't care about them.
>>2993521>>2993534Traps get more attention than quantity, also traps having sex with men its tagged as yaoi too.
Average trap vs average bara/bishonen consumers, this also applies to Twitter, Pixiv, boorus, doujin sites and so on.
>>2993643>these titless tomboys have sex with men thus it's yaoi guys!https://www.pixiv.net/en/tags/%E7%94%B7%E3%81%AE%E5%A8%98%20%E3%83%88%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%B8%E3%82%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BCFun fact: 男の娘 is considered a tranny term in Japan>>2993647>my dickgirl fetish is sooper common thus it should be allowed hereWe should allow futa and hetshit by your logic too?
>>2993643>Traps get more attention than quantityMoving goal posts I see, what happened with your "Real men don't sell" and "Traps still sell more" argument seen here >>2993471 and here >>2993473?>also traps having sex with men its tagged as yaoi too.The same is true for bara (because where the line between bara and non-bara is varies for each person) and bishounen, plus I threw you a bone previously by showing crossdressing tags which don't only include male crossdressers.>>2993647>this also applies to Twitter, Pixiv, boorus, doujin sites and so on.Are going to continue making claims without backing it up?Since the argument now is how much attention something gets see picrel.>inb4 MRM and Mangago don't countMRM may be an exclusive yaoi site, but Mangago isn't, yet every single time I go there the featured manga, popular mangas and some of the non-yaoi top 5 are filled with yaoi.
>>2993647Here's some additional data, this will take a few posts so please bear with me. You mentioned djs so let's see what fan works are popular on mangadex.
>>2993706Keep in mind the filters remain the same. So far not a single trap dj.
>>2993707Finally some trap content shows up. We shouldn't limit ourselves to fan works though, let's see what professional works look like next.
>>2993708As you can see I simply removed the dj filter.
>>2993709Again, no trap content so far.
>>2993710Trap content shows up. Now let's recall what your arguments were.>>2993471>"Real men" don't sell>>2993473>Traps still sell more>>2993475>myreadingmanga doesn't count>>2993519>Its don't count because its just one website, check any other website>nobody cares about bishonen and bara.>>2993643>Traps get more attention than quantity>also traps having sex with men its tagged as yaoi too.This last point is important because it validates this data on general BL/yaoi content which is including trap content as you claimed. I also included a site other than MRM, I checked "any other website" as you asked, it's not just one website anymore. I shouldn't have to say it, but I'll point out that mangadex isn't a yaoi site, it's a general manga site.With that out of the way, let's analyze the data. No trap content when sorted by best match and highest rating with and without the dj filter. Though the work with the most follows with and without the dj filter is a trap manga, given that your arguments were about popularity, attention and nobody caring about non-trap content, let's add up the numbers to determine that.With dj filter: 4 trap djs out of 32 with a total number of 3.840 bookmarks. The other 28 BL non-trap djs have a total number of 8.470 bookmarks.Without dj filter: 8 trap manga out of 32 with a total number of 103.714 bookmarks. 21 out the other BL manga have a total number of 182.171 bookmarks. I didn't count Zettai BL because it's a manga about BL tropes and I don't remember if they did a chapter on traps. I also didn't count the two shota mangas because while being shota they look girly so I was unsure which side I should place it. Regardless, even if I added those 3 to either side who has the most bookmarks wouldn't change.Keep in mind that I simply looked at the covers (except for Shimanami Tasogare which I read the summary to confirm) when counting, so their stories weren't taken into account when dividing them.
>>2993711Now then, the conclusions we can reach with this data are:1. Real men do sell as proven by the number of professional and dj non-trap works shown, their ratings and the total amount of bookmarks they have.2. Trap works don't sell more as proven by the number of professional and dj trap works shown, their ratings and the total amount of bookmarks they have.3. People do care about non-trap content as proven by the number of professional and dj non-trap works shown, their ratings and the total amount of bookmarks they have.4. Traps works don't get more overall attention than non-trap works as proven by the number of professional and dj trap and non-trap works shown, their ratings and the total amount of bookmarks they have.That wraps it up. Of course, this data is only of the first page out of 46 (with the dj filter) or 297 (without the dj filter), but since it was sorted in 3 different ways I believe that's enough data to reach a valid conclusion. If someone else is willing to check all pages and add all numbers then by all means, share it with visual evidence, I'm not that bored to do that though.
>inb4 "nooo you were only supposed to look at mainstream sites that cater to straggots like me!!"
>>2993713I can see him saying that, but I think mangago and mangadex are mainstream enough and cater to all kinds of readers so that argument goes out of the window.
I applaud you anons who actually put in the effort in compiling and doing research on non-trap content/works
>>2992693I remembered this post and after checking nhentai I wonder why you showed just that first row, could it be because it's not just trap works in there? Maybe I should do that too and claim shota and bishounen are more popular because that's what's been uploaded recently as you can see in picrel. If you really wanted to push trap works popularity on that site you should've showed the all time popularity, though even with that non-trap works still get uploaded and make it to the today and week popularity lists, so much for "where are the real men?" and "no one cares about them" huh?
>>2993721It's not that much effort, just takes a bit of time. Besides, who knows, maybe I'll find some good manga I haven't read yet while doing that so it's all good. Thanks for the support though, it's good to see others also not just quietly accepting with some want to push.
This is now a BL recommendation thread. Real BL, not the tranny shit straggots and closet lesbians try to force on everyone.
>>2993725I haven't read much in the past 3 years so I don't have anything new to recommend. Going by the lists from mangadex posted earlier I'd recommend Blue! Blue! Blue!, the art is very pretty, that dj is a sequel to the actual manga if it's not obvious by the title. Zettai BL if you want simple comedy. Honto Yajuu has really hot sex scenes from what I remember. I only read a few chapters from Semantic Error but I liked where it was going. Dangerous Covenience Store I read only until they had sex for the first time and I thought it was hot. That's it from those lists.Checking my browser history the last thing I read was Yuutousei wa Unmei no Akai Ito ni Sakaraitai by Igari Peko, it's a clueless high schoolers story, I thought it was cute and most of the chapters are pretty short so it shouldn't take long to read. Going a little further back, if you don't mind animal characteristics I'd recommend Ookami-sama no Koiwazurai by Tobi Washio, the sex was really hot and I think the MCs have great chemistry. If you like needy big muscled bottoms I'd recommend Sokuochi Yarichin Yankee by Namako, specifically the first story (I don't like the other two), if for nothing else for the bottoms hot body and the sex.I think that's enough, if you want something specific I'll see if I've read anything like that.
>>2993712When I'm saying that traps sell more I'm referring specifically to the porn market, nobody can't deny that BL niche its plot and not hentai but personally I don't like BL because I just want to jack off and not read a 500 pages essay about "muh feelings" and badly drawn sex scenes.
>>2993773Congrats on coming out as straight ig but you know you don't belong here
>>2993775>but you know you don't belong hereMods don't care
>>2993776Mods are useless
>>2993773Bara, bishies and non-traps still sells and have always get a lot of traction in the porn market too. Some purely for porn, some with feelings and plot and some with all of it together. Be it doujinshis, original works, art, animations, visual novels/games, etc. I believe figures are growing too as well.
>>2993773Are you implying there isn't BL heavily focused or exclusively focused on porn? Are you ignoring all the yaoi artists that draw non-trap content and sell it?Where are you pulling that data from anyway? If it's just your opinion then say so, but you kept saying traps are more popular, get more attention, that no one cares about non-trap content and posting number of content in different sites, I did the same and now you're moving the goal posts, again. The difference between us is that I posted evidence to back up my claims, so where's yours?If you want to talk about sales numbers now then post the data for both trap and non-trap content, get it from all artists and all companies, if you can't provide that then you have no argument, it's just your opinion. And don't even think about cherry picking just a few artists from both sides that fit your narrative, that won't prove anything other than your clear bias.>nobody can't deny that BL nicheNo one did, no one says BL sells more than straight content and guess what, the same is true for trap content, it's also niche. Dislike BL all you want, what you jack off to is none of my business and I couldn't care less, that has nothing to do with this discussion though. If all you want is see the content you like then go to >>>/d/, you can post trap content all you want over there, there's no need to try to change this board to fit your tastes.
>>2993776Is that why they created and pinned those rules? Because they don't care? If they don't then why not just let people post whatever they want, why create those rules? Them not reinforcing it frequently enough is a problem, but one not exclusive to this board, it's just worse here.
>>2993045>Can't have a normal, human looking male that most of the world's gay or bisexual population finds attractive, only femboys in dresses and barashit.If you want "normal human looking male", go to >>/cm/ or >>/hm/Here is a place for 2D. It isn't supposed to look like those you are talking about. But I agree with you in one thing: Barafags are shit. I blame the end of Barachan, which triggered this migration of barafags into /y/
>>2993355>showing tartaglia body type as an exampleSo, you want more Twunk 2D porn?This ain't difficult to find at all. There are threads around here with these types of body. Or you could simply open your own thread and have as much as twunk porn as you desire.
>>2993816Do you mean twink? Because I don't think neither he nor most of this thread is going to like most of the content in the twunk thread.
>>2993817No, I meant twunk. >A boy from late teens to early twenties with the slim structure of a twink. The primary difference is that they work out a bit and have slim muscle.Tartaglia is a good example of twunk.
>>2993815There's nothing wrong with twinks, twunks, bara, as they all display male/masculine characteristics. Femboys display feminine characteristics under a male guise which isn't what yaoi is about. Crossdressing is pushing the limit as long as male characteristics are the predominant feature, and not made to look like futa, which much of femboy/trap art has become nowadays. My personal pet peeve is twinks being called femboys even when they're displaying masculine characteristics. Femboys/trap lovers are the blight not bara fags.
>>2993823You might wanna say that in the twunk thread then, doesn't seem like they got the memo.
>>2993804>Are you implying there isn't BL heavily focused or exclusively focused on porn?You really can look at this and feel appeal?Trap doujins its actual hentai with penises, BL sex looks like made by a 12 years old.
>>2993922>BL sex looks like made by a 12 years old.That's how I know you've barely read BL manga, maybe you should try looking at different kinds of manga.
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>>2993922If you can look at these and not feel the appeal I'm afraid you're either not gay or like very specific things.
>>2993957Only this one
>>2993922You really can look at this and feel appeal?Trap doujins its hentai with penises, BL sex is actual yaoi.
>>2993210NTA retard
>>2994241Then you should work on your wording or better yet, should've made it clear you weren't the same person if you didn't want to be mistaken as him. Btw, it should be a given that your disgusting fetish is only allowed in the disgusting fetish board, just accept it. lol
>>2994187>Trap doujins its hentai with penisesThats what I want, I just want to jack off, not read a 500 pages muh feelings with badly drawn sex scenes.
>>2993805It's worse here because they'll ban you for calling them out for allowing this tranny shit to fester>>2994321Then go to >>>/h/ instead of spamming the board with borderline hetshit
>>2994321See >>2993955>>2993956>>2993957>>2993958They're all exactly just that, you don't need to read the story at all. Sure, Priapus is a series but each one is standalone and it doesn't matter anyway if you only want to jerk off. Picrel is another one. Really, there's plenty of BL out there that is just jerk off material, so stop pretending it's a "I don't want to read a long story" problem and admit that you can only get off to traps.
>>2994321Also>badly drawn sex scenes.You really haven't read much BL to keep saying crap like that. Check Haiki's works and you might change your mind, his sex scenes are great.
>>2994250Lol you are not smart
>>2992987Holy shit are you telling me /y/ has it's own Barry?
>>2994321*I just want to jack off to anything that looks like a submissive and breedable girl.FTFY
>>2994321Straggot keeps parroting "500 pages muh feelings with badly drawn sex scenes" believing all yaoi for fujos/gays is vanilla with light sex scenes. Oblivious from other yaoi pages/material being posted here and doesn't bother to look up porn focus yaoi without trap dickgirl shit. Goes to show that straggot brain is mushed of old crusty cum who jacks off to anything that doesn't involve a good-looking handsome man.
>>2992275Gonna cry? Transmen are pathetic.
>>2994367Anon's making shit up
>>2994422>>2994429Real men don't sell
>>2994463See >>2993700>>2993706>>2993707>>2993708>>2993709>>2993710>>2993711>>2993712and >>2993804You can keep saying that all you want, it won't magically become true. As I said in the last post I'm still waiting for data that proves your claim.
>>2994333>so sayeth the trapfag who refuses to accept data that proves him wrong
>>2993355>>2993815/cm/ is being taken over by annoying trapfags. Thankfully mods there are actually active and delete any and every active trap thread on sight.>>2994367>>2994454Anon's been going around the entire site whining to anyone who he thinks will listen about the big bad barafag strawman in his head making fun of him for beating his meat to tranny shit. He's even whined to boards he's supposedly above.>>2992498>>2992499>>2992501He's been at this shit for at least a year.
>>2994463Fake men don't sell
>>2994463>accepting that trap/femboy shit aren't real menTherefore they shouldn't be allowed on this board and don't fit in with yaoi
I'd like to use this thread to thank the mods/jannies for deleting the trap schizo threads and two other spam threads, keep up the good work.
What the christing fuck is all this terminology and why aren't people just posting SLIM FUCKING TWINKS THAT AREN'T BARA OR TRAPS
>>2994485Still more than "real men".>>2994593Mods don't care
>>2994612Seethe and cope
>>2994608Why would people post it here instead of one of the other threads where it fits the theme?>>2994612>Mods don't careYou said the same thing in that blacked thread and we all know what happened to it.
>>2994628>You said the same thing in that blacked thread and we all know what happened to it.Mostly for the controversial topic than the traps
>>2994608>why aren't people just posting SLIM FUCKING TWINKS THAT AREN'T BARA OR TRAPSOn it
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>>2994657>>2994658>>2994668>>2994669Great taste anon.
>>2994679Some of these are more twunk than twink, but it's better than nothing.
>>2994669why is legs scissoring around waist so fucking hot
>>2994479femboys are literally cute males retard
>>2994686"Femboys" are trannies in denial
>>2994686If the mods delete femboy threads on sight then it's clear they disagree.
>>2994690idc if the jannies agree or not it's still bullshit
>this entire fucking thread
>>2991674That is literally the dumbest reason for traps. I hate you.
>>2991674the top, whoever he is, is what I want more men to look like on this board. He's not bara-swole, he's not a tiny little femboy, he's an obvious male with clearly defined muscles, a masculine twink.
>>2994720TwunkWhat you want is a twunk.Twinks have no muscle or any body fat, they're these twiggy looking guys.
>>2994721Interesting. Would these guys be twunks?
>>2994727Needs a tad more muscle definition but definitely closer to twunk than twink or bara.
>>2994727Those would be twinks. More "twink" than what trapfags claim,
I'm glad nobody outside this board have this mentality
>>2994740Same. So glad trapfags earn nothing but scorn and mockery.
>>2994745The only relevant male-focus content
>>2994761If by relevant you mean popular with normalfags, then I hope non-trap content remains niche, everything touched by normalfags goes to shit quickly, just look at games and anime.
This is just what I was thinking. Haven't been on here for years - last time I was here it was all Bleach and Code Geass and Gundam 00. Just clicked out of curiosity whilst looking at /pol, was expecting the modern equivalent of Suzaku/Lelouch or whatever , and oh my god the bara.
>>2994951>oh no, the board has a variety of threads for different tastes, but that includes bara too so it's ruined for meAll you have to do is ignore the threads you don't like, that's what I do.>whilst looking at /polAlternatively you can take your snowflake ass back there.
>>2994763Then "gay men" have no right to complain and demand anything
>>2995044Are you talking the "community" fighting for "rights"? I don't care about them nor what they want, if I did I'd be on /lgbt/ or /pol/ not /y/. If you're talking about this thread, complaining about people trying to change the board with stuff that's against the rules is a valid complaint, as for demanding things, the ones doing that are the ones trying to push their trap fetish where it doesn't belong despite having a board for that already.
Reminder that the only OC that "gay men" made in all its years of existence its a tik-tok redraw.
>>2995083If you ignore all the gay artists out there who not only create standalone art but also mangas with their OCs, sure.
>>2994745hyper-masculine man wears a single piece of tight clothing "HOLY SHIT ITS A FEMBOY"
>>2995180You don't seriously believe what people call traps are hyper masculine men, do you? For example, none of the pics OP posted at the beginning has what I'd call a hyper masculine men.
>>2992480It literally used to be the opposite. Over a decade ago I'd only browse /y/ because there were no traps/femboys on /d/.
This >>2993355 anon here>>2993816Twunk porn is good, yes. But I want realistic looking males that I find cute, something that this board and /cm/ lack. Especially in terms of focus. It's just two extremes shitting up the board and /cm/>>2993815>If you want 2D anime men having sex and not freakish abominations of muscle and brawn thats been overplayed so much in both irl gay porn and yoai alike, go to a sfw board or a board that only allows real life menThis is how you sound. Are you actually retarded? Obviously I like 2D ANIME characters, and like anime designed characters, I just want something that fits my niche when it comes to it. I swear, critical thinking in barafags is absent.>>2994479/cm/ has its own board problems but that doesn't excuse this board's problems either. Believe it or not, just like how people DON'T want to see trap threads, they also DON'T want to see bara threads either. But barafags leak their poorly drawn sewage (which is usually from western artists too) everywhere in a way that is hard to filter and act arrogant and smug if you complain. Being an opposite extreme in response to an extreme is not the answer to this board's problems. If anything it just creates more problems on top of it. Something 4chan has yet to learn as the retards become exactly what they are fighting against wants them to become by being overly sensitive, moral crusaders in the fight against overly sensitive, moral crusaders they disagree with. You see this mentality constantly on every board save for a select, niche few. Its also why shit tier, garbage fetishes are now propped up because of their nature and the overreaction on both sides of the argument. Now you see NTR, blacked, bara, trap, furshit EVERYWHERE because fags can't just call other people who unironically like that shit fags with shit taste and move on. They have to start a movement and ironically popularize that shit more because its more discussed now in the mainstream conscious.
>>2992319This is true, /lgbt/ and their tranny ilk try to make EVERY remotely normal gay dude into some dumb femboy uwu bullshit before leading them down the HRT pipeline but how does posting NOTHING but bara combat this? The answer is it doesn't. Normal gay guys who are susceptible to the tranny cult aren't going to want to see ridiculously huge bara males and if they do while going down the HRT dark timeline, you know for a fact they'll become a ddlg i want daddy to fucky wucky me faggot on top of being a tranny if they don't become a transbian polyam with 23 different "girl"friends. This solves nothing and just creates more problems. I've seen it happen with people I know, and being a slightly more masculine guy that everyone I've been with wants me to be the top, I can tell you its not a pretty sight. The better solution is to instead promote healthy, less fetishitic bait of normal looking guys who they can identify with rather than switching their intake to different extremes constantly. >>2995083Yeah if only included your westernized bullshit barafag collection. There's plenty of good oc made by japanese pixiv and twitter artist daily that don't follow this barafag or trapfag dogma everyone in the west pushes.>>2993833Both barafags and femboy/trapfags are a blight and you are genuinely delusional if you think they don't create net negative consequences on gay boards. I want a return to normal faggots posting normal faggot shit, not this influx of barafaggotry and trapfaggotry that floods everything except japanese artists nowadays. Bishounen is looked down upon by barafags for being "straggot shit" and by trapfags for not being feminine enough. God fucking forbid the college age demographic that browses 4chan like college aged men that they are more likely to see in real life. God fucking forbid people appreciate normalcy and not this hyperfaggotry purist bullshit. And then people wonder why the gay community is so fucked up. There's your answer.
>>2995236>>2995237I get where you're coming from when it comes to normal guys getting caught in the crossfire between trapfags and barafags, but you're also bringing irl stuff into this which shouldn't matter at all, this isn't /lgbt/ or /pol/, what happens to real gays is irrelevant to this board about 2D anime guys. Back to the topic about normal guys, maybe you should create a thread specifying what you're looking for and see how it goes. I won't be surprised if someone tries to shit it, maybe it won't go smoothly the first time, but I think that by persevering and ignoring the trolls it might give you what you want even if only in one thread.
>>2995237>This solves nothing and just creates more problems. I've seen it happen with people I know, and being a slightly more masculine guy that everyone I've been with wants me to be the top, I can tell you its not a pretty sight.Expand on this?I used to be accepting of the trans stuff but I see more and more the tranny cult indoctrination psyops are actually real, telling every slightly fem homo they have to inject hormones or become ugly (because in their alternative reality trannies somehow retain their looks better... lol) and it seems many fall for it. Sad seeing multiple cute guys become very mediocre 'women' (Im bi and they indeed become legitimately much less good looking as 'women') and then start repeating the indoctrination to othersI agree, bishionen should be the standard for gay men. I can really love girly guys and very masc guys but it seems fans who focus on either of those exclusively end up promoting of monstrous exaggerations
>>2995237>Bishounen is looked down upon by barafags for being "straggot shitThis sounds like a ridiculous reach and a personal interpretation. Masculine males are desirable and fit under the yaoi umbrella. As long as the extremist hyper-masculine posts stay in their containment thread it shouldn't even be an issue. Trannies on the other hand are the main cause of all problems on this board. Can you provide a single post on this board from the archives that proves the point that bara is causing some sort of degradation? As far as I'm aware all I see are tranny raiders with an agenda for HRT, not bara raiders with an agenda for PEDs.Perhaps what the issue is that there's a new generation of fujoshi's/fundashi's that have been introduced to yaoi from either bara or traps/femboys. Traditionally throughout the ages we had stuff like fanfictions and bishounens being the predominant representative of yaoi. Now that there's a new generation on this board/discord they probably aren't even aware of the depths of the subject and just want to see a said character in a pornographic depiction.
>>2992275YWNBAM
"Bishonen" its a totally dead concept, these kind of characters are faceless harem protagonists now, its the only time when artists don't turn them into traps and "respect their masculinity".
>>2995383Cope and seethe straggot
>>2995383No harem protag I know is a bishounen, they're generic normal guys which is also the most common type of male protag, just look at the animes this season for example. You guys seem to be calling any guy you consider beautiful bishounen, which just shows that what fits a specific definition depends on who you ask, no wonder the discussions in this thread keep happening when people can't even agree on this.
>>2995406You are gay, you aren't any better than trannies
>>2995415Trannies and straggots are far worse and are the bottom of the barrel
>>2991696>/pol/fag schizophrenic faggots ruin the long tradition of catamites with their tranny paranoiaI even like muscular men, but the kind of wide fat mountains of flesh in bara are disgusting. Not even straight women like that.
Most "femboys" that aren't completely normiecore like astolfo look clearly male like picrel
>>2995445That's not a femboy unless you think slim body = feminine. He's closer to a shota than a femboy.
>>2995414Its a dead concept, they don't exist anymore
>>2995511Yeah boring straight male harem protags are a dead concept and should stay that way
>>2995520They are the closest thing to a bishonen character being relevant
>>2995528But they are a dead concept. Only the yaoi ones are relevant.
>>2995383>"Bishonen" its a totally dead conceptMeanwhile just last season:https://myanimelist.net/character/175991/Claude_Jeanne_Elmirhttps://myanimelist.net/character/174744/Angel_Devil>>2995520>Yeah boring straight male harem protags are a dead conceptMeanwhile this season:https://myanimelist.net/character/183301/Hiraku_Machiohttps://myanimelist.net/character/217862/Ray_WhiteJust to provide some examples. I don't know what you two are smoking.
>>2995237>>2995314These are right.I don't mind traps that look male or bara thats not hairy old men and I think most people are in this in between area.The antagonism appears to be between trannies attempting to sow discord while hiding behind trap posts and barafags falling for their bait.Their is probably a few political bad actors.The amount of times I have seen>Only Nazis like masculine men>(.Jpg of male with birthing hips) depicts the superior male body>Appreciating masculinity is problematicIs especially present on meta threads like these.This then results in barafags proclaiming that:>If it's not middle aged and built like bull it's undergeOr>Anything remotely feminine is a women and you are straight for liking theseAnd they hilariously attempt to gatekeep a sexuality of all things.It's the bad actors who started it but the barafags are letting themselves get played and are getting worse because of it.And barafags are only complaining about traps while other /d/ content is being allowed here rather unquestioned (old men, lactation, etc) Either way, both traps and extreme bara both need containment threads or both get banished to /d/.
>>2995548Maybe it isn't your intention, but you sound like one of the bad actors you're complaining about by trying to point your finger at barafags when outside of this kind of discussion they tend to keep to themselves. Really, of all the schizos I've seen shitting the board for fun or whatever agenda they might have none were barafags. You may see a complaint here and there to specific pics sometimes, but it's not frequent enough to be comparable to what the people pushing dickgirls and cuntboys do.>And barafags are only complaining about traps while other /d/ content is being allowed here rather unquestioned (old men, lactation, etc) I'll give you lactation, though I assume the reason you don't see people complaining is because it's contained to one thread like you're suggesting, making it easy to ignore. Old men though? It's not my thing but aside from shotas age is irrelevant to the content allowed here.Personally I think if you remove the bad actors trying to cause discord we can get along well enough with most things staying in one thread or being easy to ignore (even if you don't count the extremes you will see things you don't like, be it a certain fetish, an artist's art style, a character and so on). At least for now the bad actors mostly shut up after proof against their arguments was provided, so all that is left is just reporting the content that doesn't belong here whenever it appears and let the mods do their job.
>>2995559I didn't day the barafags were the bad actors, some are just overreacting and calling each other "straightoids" or whatever is not a healthy state for the board.>I assume the reason you don't see people complaining is because it's contained to one thread like you're suggestingYes, either a trap containment tread be allowed or all of the /d/ stuff be moved and consistency will be reached and no one can complain.Anyways, the tranny camp (or probably just one person) must be removed. And I really do trust that barafags will actually settle down if rules are consistently and totally enforced.
