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This is a place to discuss topics about visual or graphic design. Requests for photoshopping or free work go on /wsr/ - Worksafe Requests or /r/ - Adult Requests as appropriate.

http://graphicdesign.wikia.com/

>What literature should I read to get into graphic design?
The sidebar on the /gd/ wiki has plenty of book reccomendations.

>What programs do I need to get started?
Vector
Adobe Illustrator
Corel Draw
Inkskape
Bitmap
Adobe Photoshop
Gimp

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>Can somebody photoshop X? Can somebody make me a logo?
All requests for photoshopping belong on /wsr/ - Worksafe Requests or /r/ - Adult Requests. /gd/ doesn't take requests or do free or even paid work sometimes. However, if you're new at something, asking "HOW can I X?" rather than "CAN YOU make X?" will give you better results.


>Can I post some of my work for critique?

There is usally a critique/What-Are-You-Working-On thread, and that is where work for critique go.

>Can somebody find [font]?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/027xjs3ujvyqxmd/Fonts.zip

also check out your local torrent site or the font-share thread.

Remember to share and not just take. Also remember that using liscensed fonts in commercial works is a bad idea.

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Do these team logos look AI generated?
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I don't think so
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AI couldn't do text like this. Of course the ideas could have been generated by AI because you have to second guess everything now.

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It's ugly. It's the ugliest shit you could possibly make.
99% of homophobia is due to this abomination. If the gay flag were cool, if the colors actually complemented each other, if it had some cool lesbian animal symbolism or something like that people would LOVE the gays.
I try to tell this to people but they're in denial
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>>457136
Last time I checked rainbows had 7 colours…
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>4chan user triggered by rainbow
many such cases!
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>>462188
nigger faggot ALERT nigger faggot ALERT nigger faggot ALERT nigger faggot ALERT the faggot has breached our enforcement call bayzed W chaditors
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>>457228
>Physics recognizes 3 primary colors.
Primary colours do not exist. It's just what human eys happend to detect.
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>>462187
Actually the number of colours of a real rainbow is variable.

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Request and share non-free typefaces and identification of typeface samples.

> Previous thread

>>429862

> Older threads

archived <dot> moe/gd/search/subject/Font%20Share/

> Font identification

Before you request, do your due diligence by running your font sample through a font identifier;

whatfontis <dot> com

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Searching for PragmataPro 0.902. Please share someone :)
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Oh dawg, how convenient. Please someone post the entire corporate SGI (Silicon Graphics) family, regular and italic, thanks.
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Humbly requesting all 19 fonts of the Twentieth Century (Pro and Std) fontset:

https://www.myfonts.com/collections/twentieth-century-mt-font-monotype-imaging
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Requesting Sandoll Action Stencil Solid.
Its a Korean font.
Thanks in advance.
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New Die Grotesk looks nice. Anyone got it?

I feel like I’ve wasted 15 years of my life, and my career has led me nowhere. At 35, I should be at my peak in terms of earnings and health, yet I’m a nobody. I keep ending up in shitty companies where I’m expected to do everything while getting paid less than gate keeper. For the past 10 years, I’ve designed websites, logos, mobile apps, print materials, books, t-shirt prints, labels, packaging, product photography, social media content, 3D designs, modeling, animation, and simulations. If I had focused on one thing from the start, I’d be an expert in a specific field by now and making decent money. Unfortunately, the harsh truth is this: if you are able to do anything that means you are good at nothing. When there are job listings for simple graphic work, they don’t want someone with 5+ years of experience. If they do want someone with 5 years of experience, they expect an expert in one particular niche. Today, no one even wants to spit in my direction. No one is looking for a 35-year-old guy who has done everything (but nothing specific) because they have 100 young, dynamic grads fresh out of college to choose from. The competition in the big city is just too strong. For the past 5 years, I’ve been working from home part-time, and somehow manage to pay the rent. The MS diagnosis broke me. Depression, no friends, far from family, always making excuses. If it weren’t for my wife earning well and help from my in-laws, I’d have nothing. It feels like everyone around me is doing fine, earning well, and building great careers - except me. I’m feeling down, I’m sick of this fucking city and its weather. I just needed to get this off my chest.
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>MS diagnosis

I'm sorry to hear that, brother.
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>>459830
>>459833
>Sudden business
Just make something dude
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>>459830
Ever thought of giving private classes or getting some teacher's degree so you can get yourself a comfy teacher's job? I'm mainly an illustrator but i've dabbled in graphic design and right now i'm teaching high schoolers about graphic design and some of them are light years ahead of me in terms of design. It isn't a good paid job but the turnside is that there aren't many work hours, so you can do a side hustle while having some steady income without wanting to kill yourself from doing the 9 to 5
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>>462204
Is not the spam is the image layer of meaning
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>>462204
>dude just teach other people a useless skill so that they can also not find jobs other than also teaching the future generation said useless skill

graphic design going the way of philosophy

Ssninja Goju
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>>462353
You should say textwin more often.
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>>462101
Make GD vip/8" *". *"542913

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How is it that adobe still basically has no real competition sure there's alternatives to photoshop, illustrator, premiere pro but from what I've seen none of them really measure up to adobe so what is it that the alternatives aren't doing that would at least put them closer to even playing fields?
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Clutterware. Adobe Illustrator seemed over-complicated and had a cancelation fee as well
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>>461799
>Affinity Suite (hotoshop, InDesign, Illustrator)
>DaVinci Resolve (Preimiere)
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>>461799

Gimp just released Gimp 3.0.6

- This feature introduces a new toggle in the Brushes and Fonts dialogs to allow brush and font previews to optionally follow the color theme, an alpha channel for certain transforms and on filter merge, and improves Photoshop brush support.

- Gimp now shows an undo step for Lock Content, resizes images to layers irrespective of selections, fixes Alpha to Selection on single layers with no transparency, and fills the mask with complete opacity instead of a completely transparent layer when creating a layer mask from the layer’s alpha and the layer has no alpha.

- The Text tool has been updated

- The Foreground Selection tool no longer creates a selection when no strokes are made.

- GIMP 3.0.6 improves importing of JPEG 2000, TIFF, DDS, SVG, PSP, ICNS, DICOM, WBMP, Farbfeld, XWD, and ILBM image formats, as well as exporting of the FITS image format.

- This release improves the sensitivity of filter actions to make sure they are set insensitive when relevant, especially for filters that can’t be run non-destructively

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>>461799
When I took a year of graphic design classes Inkscape was mentioned.
I think adobe being considered "the industry standard" is why it has no competition.

AFFINITY IS FUCKING DEAD. It's a zombie propped up by corporate PR bullshit and if you're still defending it, you are a literal, medically diagnosable retard.

`>SOLD OUT TO FUCKING CANVA`
`>THE APP FOR INSTAGRAM INFLUENCERS AND HR DEPARTMENTS MAKING FLYERS FOR THE COMPANY POTLUCK`
`>CEO "promises" they won't force a subscription on us.`
`>OH YEAH? FOR HOW LONG? UNTIL V3?`
`>WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S COMING: A SLOW, PAINFUL TRANSITION INTO A BROWSER-BASED, SUBSCRIPTION-ONLY, AI-SLOP-GENERATING PIECE OF SHIT.`

They were the CHOSEN ONE. They were supposed to be the one company that wasn't trying to ram a subscription fee up our ass every single month until we die. The one place you could actually OWN your goddamn tools.

But no. They took the money. They bent the knee to the same corporate logic that created the Adobe monopoly in the first place. All that "for the creatives" talk was just marketing.

Enjoy your "magic AI logo generator" that shits out the same 5 generic logos. Enjoy the forced cloud integration that holds your own files hostage.

Im going back to the high seas, anons. There's no escaping it now. I paid for affinity but if they keep doing this shit im outta here.
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>Free software means that the software's users have freedom. (The issue is not about price.) We developed the GNU operating system so that users can have freedom in their computing.

>Specifically, free software means users have the four essential freedoms: (0) to run the program, (1) to study and change the program in source code form, (2) to redistribute exact copies, and (3) to distribute modified versions.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/

>“Free software” means software that respects users' freedom and community. Roughly, it means that the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. Thus, “free software” is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of “free” as in “free speech,” not as in “free beer.” We sometimes call it “libre software,” borrowing the French or Spanish word for “free” as in freedom, to show we do not mean the software is gratis.

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html

You choose to be in a "creative industry", basically a technically inept jackass buying into shitty proprietary SaaS applications like Apple and Adobe.

You will be continuously subjected to the SaaS cock and ball torture.

Basic features of free, general-purpose computing won't be granted to you - such as local storage, interchangeable hardware, standardized, open protocols and file formats.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg
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They will probably use the Clip Studio model. Yearly "perpetual" versions or if you want the latest updates a subscription model.

hi guys. anybody, who knows - what is a font on a CD on photo?
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found that primary text writed on Bennet Text, but this font doesn't support cyrillic symbols, which presentated on photo
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>>462359
they don't have ai chatbots in the shithole youre posting from?

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Here are the basic colors:
>blue
>gold
>red
>purple
>green
>orange
>brown
>black
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Basic color chart made using color sliders
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Very pwetty.
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>>460864
For me Basic colors
are
>Achromatic
Black, White, Gray
>Primary
Red, Blue, Yellow
>Secondary
Orange, Green, Purple

Gold, is darker yellow
Brown is darker orange

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Should I learn Photoshop or Illustrator first?
I know both are practically essential, but which is better to learn first?
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>>459488
Those are different applications with different approaches and use cases. It really depends on your goals.

Photoshop works best with pixels and has its strength in image editing.
Illustrator is a vector-based program and is used to create scalable graphics.

If you are diving into graphic design in general and have no specific task in mind yet, I'd suggest to start with Photoshop first, because it also has some vector features and is more versatile overall.
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>>459488
Photoshop, you can do vectors in both but only rasters in photoshop
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>>459488
>>459490
>>459498

>>460178
>>460681
>>462352
HELLO EVERYONE, new guy here, why not Inkscape and GIMP?

Sincerely,
Pinky
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>>462356
hello Pinky,

the project file format interoperability e.g. inkscape does not support importing and auto updating gimp project format file (you can import psd sketches from photoshop into illustrator). affinity is even better at this because it's equivalent of .psd and .ai is the same format.

inkscape is also crashes very frequently on basic shit after 20 or whatever years of development e.g. it freaks out when you group or try to ask mask to existing object groups and select some of the child elements in the group. or crashes when you export a jpeg specifically.

inkscape relies on svg format which unlike .ai lacks
- typographic layout concepts like.. paragraphs
- various art-brush things that illustrator has

inkscape svg is not a standard in printing industry. does it even support cmyk? i forgot, but who cares because Adobe proprietary shit loaded EPS/AI/PDF is the defacto standard

about GIMP.. i can use photoshop, affinity, krita, corel paint, paint shop pro from like 2000 but the Gimp GUI is just frustrating to deal with


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>>462361
Gimp's UI/UX is getting better and better.

And the GIMP team announced they will focus on it.

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Babe, wake up. The newest downgrade just dropped.
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>>462362
you know there is a reason why regular car dashboards and formular one race car cockpits have different interfaces?
no need to claim superiority of one if they simply serve different user bases with different expertise and demands...
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>>462367
yeah that instant menu and search field able to show program titles ("firefox") / generic titles ("(web browser)") / 1 sentence descriptions and sorting applications by their usage frequency is just like an f1 racecar it's too extreme

it's obvious that the gui needs to look like a bowl of candies of corporate branding and sort of like videogame with acrylic glass jellyfish animations that drop dozens of frames slowly rendered in a google chrome instance or the special needs office worker won't be able to populate the sprint velocity excel97.exe spreadsheet and the GUI designers will die
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>>462368
where i'm getting is that there is a lot of fluff these days that gets in the way of how straight to the point and technically efficient the computer gui could be

windows gui hasn't substantially improved since 2009 but they have time for this bs
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>>462362
Clicking an icon is faster than pressing your macro keys to open the launcher, then searching for whatever it is that you want.
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>>462338
'03 is just '01 with a gradient
and '07 looks better than '10
also '18 is at least a improvement on '13 which is the laziest of them all. I wont die on the hill of 2018 design is good' but I will die on 2013 was the worst design.

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Is affinity actually a good replacement for what it advertises?
I don't mind paying for software so long as it's a perpetual license. I don't wanna give any money to adobe nor do I wanna pirate their software and risk getting fucked.
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In Designer the pivot point for curves is placed in the middle of the spline. This renders the whole thing useless.
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>broke
>trying to get into video editing/graphic design for a hyper focused freelancing market I want to zero in on
>my cracked photoshop and adobe programs have been found out and disabled, and the guide has been removed from the internet
>download GIMP
>fool around editing something, dont really like how it feels
>application suddenly crashes, losing my progress
>I have a super strong computer, app is just ass
>go to check out Affinity, $60 for lifetime but I can try the free trial, Im sure its better
>on affinity's website
>scroll everywhere, cant find download or buy anywhere
>what the fuck
>look it up
>Affinity got bought out, and they removed the ability to purchase the program
>people think they are relaunching a new version with a subscription model


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>>462380
>gimp
at least use krita, bruh...
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OP here, I was almost thinking of getting and now they just outright removed the way to buy it like >>462380 said.
What in the world?
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You crackers need to learn how to pirate. I've been using Adobe products for years and never paid a dime. I wish I could also download a car.

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You guys need to understand something, because when you ask "How do we bring this style back", for any aesthetic you want, you're not getting that these aesthetics didn't exist in a vacuum. They were there to advertise a product, or culture around the product.

You won't bring any aesthetic back, you won't create any new kind of aesthetic, if there is no culture behind it. Otherwise, its just wall paper. You're in /gd/ GD is making wallpaper for a product or culture.

You have to ask yourself, how is a culture formed, how a culture is made, and how does a culture persists. Because culture is what happens when you're not around. its self reinforcing by the people participating.

None of you will bring any kind of aesthetic back without a culture.
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>>462249
I dont believe i said he was wrong about the tex avery stuff only that the things i was analyzing shot off it and took its own form.

I dont know how im putting on a show of superiority though
>nah im right
Okay maybe, but before that. Any authority i think i have is because i was researching on what cultures are and how buisnesses make a small culture to sell their products. Yeah, im not a college fucking professor, but engage with the toughts provided man.
I think any air of authority you saw i was giving was a projection from your own insecurity. In all do respect. 90% pf whats said is how you say it, and the internet has stripped away tone. Youre reading what i said with the voice in your head, not the voice i use.
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>>462251
Nvm, forget it
I lost my temper.
I think what i said has merit, im going to keep my understanding and work in it, but i could have delevered it better.
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I think there has to be a sense of novelty. It can't be a previously trodden path or else it feels like a spent energy, it feels like forcing something that has long since ran its course. Like a meme or music genre, it's not completely dead but its confined to a small clique of aficionados. It cannot captivate large portions of the population anymore so most people move on to something feels fresh and invigorating.

Moreover it just feels forced. People naturally aren't inclined to make art like they did 20 years ago (which was largely impacted by the technological means that are no longer there). It's easier and more intuitive to just do what you're used to (generic flatshit) or do something new. People don't naturally do things that happen to faithfully adhere to bygone trends. Just just do whatever.

And like a meme, it has to naturally emerge from the zeitgeist. It has to seem like the most befitting thing for the moment. The laser grids of the 80s just aren't gonna cut it for most people.

Stuff like synthwave and vaporwave have a niche appeal that likely could never go mainstream. And even then, it is hardly a faithful implementation of retro aesthetics. They are more of a crude indulgence of stereotypes of the 80s & 90s for the purpose of escapism. It's not forward looking like the retro aesthetics that inspire it. These are dead genres for people who are dead inside.
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>>462363
Looking at OP and this, there just seems to be a sense of individualism on the internet that keeps people from blossoming a movement.
People can hone in their own graphic design and style, but to get a great majority of others to follow is a really hard deal. And to have those other people following not seem like a cheap knockoff is harder. Think of AVGN clones.
You're either doing something new, or knocking someone off, when you actually get enough skill to not look like an amatuer/everyone else.
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>>462363
>Just just do whatever
*They just do whatever

>>462373
It might be the case that artistic trends will come to be less centralized over time resulting in a more diverse and compartmentalized landscape. AI is a big game changer too. The ease with which you can generate art might break the death grip Corporate Memphis currently has (which is mainly used due to how braindead & easy it is to create). Targeted advertising may reflect this, for better or worse. Sites that collect data about you may figure out what aesthetics appeal to you and generate ads accordingly. Web design might also similarly opt for a variety of AI generated layouts. I'm sure people are realizing how repugnant Corporate Memphis is to a lot of people. The world is bigger than the oversocialized bugmen and PMC drones that actually enjoy that garbage. I almost think its intentionally bad as a means of driving away interesting people thus lowing competition for themselves.

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>>459032
>CANDICK
Surely can
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>>459032
I'm still waiting for the bottom of the logo to finish loading.
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>>459032
>Yeah let's just ditch our iconic instantly-recognizable logo for no fucking reason
I'll never understand why companies do this
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It looks good, gives very tech and sci-fi feel to it.
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>>459032
i like how this logo comparison looks somewhat like their real sd card


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