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when do my balls stop shrinking?

So asin has least sides than adex but you need to really make sure you don't crash e2 with it since it takes a long time to increase?
Once someone has his adex dose down how do you transition to asin is there a formula for it

>>74183182
>So asin has least sides than adex
like what?

>>74183014
>lady boy in the OP

>>74183229
For example adex might mess with joints or lipids or so I heard
It also has a rebound

>>74183275
Nigger, you described low e2 symptoms and you are counting "rebound" as something bad. Wait until you crash your e2 and will have to wait weeks for your shit to come back while crying your eyes out.
You are supposed to use ai as needed and not cruise on it so any potential side effects are nothing compared to side effects that comes from your main compounds during blast.

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>>74183182

>>74183306

I always use arimidex. Especially if you are getting your shit from someone making it in their kitchen. If it's overdosed (which often happens) you risk crashing your shit. No one ever tests their ai.

>>74183362
I only take ai when i'm blasting a gram of test and there's no way i am going to accidentally crash my e2 with that amount of T

>>74183326

Is that image saying to run nolva on cycle?

>>74183014
The background in the first image appears to be a fancy restaurant. The background in the second image is a gym. The man in the second image also has his shirt off (not allowed in fancy restaurants). All this stuff proves that this image is 100% fake.

>>74183881
This is a /fraud/ thread after all.

Am I the only one on here that loves EQ? Always running at least 200 mg a week, blast or cruise.

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>>74183306
>Wait until you crash your e2 and will have to wait weeks for your shit to come back while crying your eyes out.
>waiting weeks
lol, how? Just pin more test. ED pinning master race.
>>74183275
using low dose aromasin isn't going to fuck your lipids, quit scarying yourself over nothing. Having fucked estrogen levels is bad, bloated, soft dick, moody.

Out of control e2 is especially bad with 19 nors. If you keep everything in check with ai, you'll never need prami or caber with Deca or Tren.
>>74184112
I dropped primo and started EQ again, not looking back. I love it.

>>74184112
I use EQ as my AI and don't use actual AI anymore. It's great.

>>74184225
I've ran 1g of test and 1g of eq, it's not a very effective ai imo. Also was a shit cycle.

so testicles are smaller, but I was honestly expecting at least a little increase in penis size, but haven't really noticed much, and I don't want to attribute that to the smaller ball size. wen huge peen?

>>74184243
It werks for me. I ran 1g test and 300mg EQ and didn't need any AI and I aromatize a lot.

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So is there any reason not to just alternate pinning left and right glutes all cycle? I do 2x weekly injections
Also for the asin niggas in the thread: I only took AI only once when I felt high e2 sides. Is this normal? Just started week 5 of cycle, that was on week 3
>>74183306
>>74184217

>>74183842
it's saying the opposite

>>74184901
I've been alternating R & L glutes once a week each for like 8 years. Used to do delts but stopped a while ago.

>>74183014
I get most of you guys blast and cruise but how do you deal with loss of libido coming off?

>>74185011
Just cruise. Easy as.

>>74185011
>I get most
That's a good start but you need something that is going to shock the body jumpstart the anabolic process

>>74184988
Nice. no noticeable scarring or other problems I'm assuming?

When blasting and bulking, am I supposed to spread out my meals to keep food/protein in me consistently?

simple fucking question roidfags - what is the percentage likelihood my natural test production fully recovers after a 14 week 250mg test e cycle? 29yp, 12 years natty lifting

>shit hits the fan civil unrest style
>sure as fuck no TRT availability
>every roidfag immediately incapacitated, literal dead men walking

>2 more weeks

>>74185400
pretty much 100%
blast more gear tho that cycle sucks

>>74185446
i like my pretty boy face too much cobba

>>74185400
Same concern. HPGA not returning to 100% is the one thing that trips me out from joining roidtranny status

>>74185428
>doesn't stack test or pct drugs in case of emergency
Nattycucks at it again

>>74185491
>>74185526
One blast and PCT and there's literally no way it shits the bed permanently. Even a few and you'll be fine.

>>74185400
>>74185491
Only worry if you do 19nors, but you natty cucks won't even what that is.
>wasting a cycle with 250mg test
Nattycucks never learn

>>74185428

It always stays in the back of my mind. I take hcg on cruise and I have a stockpile of nolva. I could probably get back pretty close to where I would be naturally.

Mass monsters would shed excess muscle but most of the CNS gains would stay and strength wise we'd be right near natty limit. In other words I would still be much stronger than you.

Since you are trying to troll in a /fraud/ thread I can safely assume that you are antisocial which means in a SHTF situation you are more fucked than an Epstein girl. Networking and social skills are 1000x more important when law and order breaks down. You probably have /pol/ fantasies of living on your homestead with your teen trad wife.

>>74185400
>>74185529

One of the things that most people don't know about trt is that the majority of people on it get off in a few years, mostly due to BP concerns. Of those that get off, their testosterone rebounds either completely or almost completely to an age appropriate level (assuming they weren't hypogonadal).

>>74185579
One of the things that most people don't know about trt is that the majority of people on it blast and cruise for the rest of their lives, mostly due to to it being based as fuck. Of those that stay on, their testosterone stays at joocy levels 5ever and never reach an age appropriate level (assuming they have left humanity behind).

>>74185428
I mean you don't have a supply of food and clean water ready for a civil unrest either. You will die sooner from hunger and thirst than I will die from lack of steroids.

>>74185635
based

>no source talk
is there a place that allows source talk for DNP?
its been a while since I've used it, and I heard my last source went downhill

>>74185981
>DNP
bro just water fast and cruise to stop muscle wasting

>>74185989
I first did DNP 11 years ago and have done well over a dozen cycles. I'm quite aware of what I'm doing; I havent died yet.

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>>74185989
>cruise to stop muscle wasting
look at this fucking retard

>>74186033
i can't imagine touching the stuff but i'm in a hot climate (florida)
>>74186064
worst part about fasting is the lowered test production. If you exercise and inject test instead of relying on natural production there's 0 muscle wasting. If you're taking issue with cruising during a cut why are you in fraud? Just cruising during any caloric deficit is better than doing it natty since you'll still experience test drops if the deficit is high enough

bumped up to 750 test 600 primo from 500/300. these two at a high dose feel amazing

>>74186087
>i can't imagine touching the stuff but i'm in a hot climate (florida)
thanks for a reasonable reply.
I'min the PNW where its still in the low 50s. I've run it in hotter weather, and its manageable with tons of water. Actually, the hardest cycle I did was in December, I think because everyone had the heat cranked up inside.

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thoughts on my epic shamu tank?

>>74186087
>worst part about fasting is the lowered test production
It is lowered due to lack of food and fatigue but it isn't nowhere near levels so low that will cause muscle loss by itself.
>If you exercise and inject test instead of relying on natural production there's 0 muscle wasting.
I can't believe you are this fucking retarded. Injecting synthetic testosterone does NOT stop muscle wasting. All it fucking does is MINIMIZE muscle loss. You are 100% guaranteed to lose muscle and with bigger deficit you are losing a lot no matter what. Fasting is the most retarded thing ever, unless it's done for medical reasons.
>If you're taking issue with cruising during a cut why are you in fraud?
You are absolutely clueless fucking retard, why are you in fraud?
>cruising during any caloric deficit is better than doing it natty
No fucking shit captain obvious, where do you think you are?

>>74183246
you will never be a woman, faggot

>>74186149
roid rage kek, get your e2 checked champ

what is a /fraud/ approved first cycle?

>>74186576
1g tren, 1g test-e

>>74185548
they do learn, otherwise there would be no roidtrannies

how high is too high for a cruise?

>>74186569
If you're taking issue with roid dage why are you in fraud?

>>74186576
ashwaghanda and no-fap

>>74186897
There is no limit. It depends on your preferences and how well you are tolerating the dose. There are guys cruising on 500mg and there are boomers who need ai on 100mg of trt.

>>74183014
Bro, I went from fit to fat in like a month.
I’ve been stressed af from work and living situation. I feel like I have no energy. I was doing insanely well, but I overtrained and it fucked me for like a month.

>>74185400
Why would you even risk it for that shit cycle? Especially after 12 years of lifting.. the short term benefit is low and long term borderline nonexistent

>>74186897
>how high is too high for a cruise?
Well certainly not Tom Cruise..

Sorry couldn't resist it.

>>74185428
The only thing that separates men when shit hits the fan is owning a semiautomatic rifle and the will and skill to use it.
>t.natty

I want to take HGH for my foot tendonitis, should I take 4 IU eod or 2 IU ed?

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Mom says she can't sleep at night because I'm on self TRT and I have to drive 10 hours back and forth to a doctor of her choosing and talk to him about it XD
I'm 27 and she still treats me like a kid, I just told her no

>>74187474
Doctors know absolutely nothing about hormones. It's pretty weird that a fucking DOCTOR is just a simple retard when it comes to any hormone.

Last year my lipids were off (due to suicide cut) and two weeks later i asked for another panel. Bitch told me that it takes at least 6-12 months for cholesterol values to change.

>>74187515
Exactly so she wants me to waste my time and money just on the off chance that I get a good doctor, and if I do he will just prescribe me what I'm already taking myself.
The bad case will be getting a retarded doctor and then she will blindly listen to him because he is the doctor and not me XD
My LH was literally above range and I had 200 total test meaning primary hypoganism, can't really fix it any other way beside TRT for life

Should i throw in 20mg of sdrol on a cut?

>>74184112
>Am I the only one on here that loves EQ?
Nope. Run it low dose as well, good athletic feel in blast or cruise

>>74186033
Just take Semaglutide & HGH while on cruise.

>>74187417
I'd go with 2 IU ED. I've found my personal sweet spot is 3 IU ED.

>>74183881
The woman (male) in the first image also has her shirt off.

>>74185428
Lol what a cope. You pretend like we all don't have exactly what we need to continue or end a cycle, on hand already. I'd be mad too, if I were a weakling with no social skills, or professional military training

Am I leaving gains in the table? I'm running a blast at the moment but I finished my arms workout in about 50 minutes today, and that's doing a total of 11 sets for triceps, 10 sets for biceps. Even though I'm running a bigger blast than I have before (750mg test, 400mg mast, 100mg Anavar 100mg Proviron 2iu HGH) I feel like my condition for the gym is worse than it was 5 years ago and that I'm just not recovering well. I'm eating 220g+ protein a day and 3500+ calories as well, and I'm 95kg currently. My sleep isn't perfect but it's not dog shit, I sleep at least 7 hours a night almost every night, often 8. The only two things I can think of is that my ADHD meds are frying my CNS as I've been on them for 6 months now, or my recent lactose intolerance is giving me more issues than I thought even though I managed it with lactase pills.

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anything i should be aware of going from a 600mg/wk blast to 150-200mg/wk cruise?
guess e2 will go up a bit after stopping AI but seems like it will be manageable, can't think of anything else

>>74189213
To be honest I might just take the next few days off my ADHD meds and just see what happens because I've got some time off work

>>74186120
>coach primate
Summer vibes, would wear to the beach

>>74187474
pick your own doctor, jfc
urologist gave me TRT immediately at 400 total once i told him my libido was nil, was tired all the time and was having problems staying hard
fixed it too, next step was blast and cruise just fyi
tale as old as time

>>74189213
>>74189280
I think 4 days on 4 days off is what you try to aim for with stims. Even if it's to help with ADHD you need to do what you can to minimize usage so you don't build tolerance and up your dose. If you know you can get through a day's obligations without it take a day off whenever possible. I stay off mine on the weekends and any day I know I don't got SHIT to do at work. Been at 10mg forever

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Will my balls come back to normal, /fraud/?
I'm running a 250mg test cruise for around 3 months and, besides my shrunken testes, I've got no side effects but insomnia. I'm not planning to stop anytime soon because my quality of life has improved dramatically, as well as my physique. I'm thinking of taking enclomiphene to keep my balls while I'm pinning.
For those who stopped after a long cycle, did your balls come back to normal? I'm genuinely concerned. I'm frustrated that they've shrunk in a fairly mild cycle ;_;.

>>74183326
crying for no reason is low estrogen?

>>74189553
You should probably run hcg coming to the close of your cycle. The reason why your nuts shrink is because your test production is shut down. Hcg will make your body synthetically start producing it again

I’m starting my next blast in two weeks. I still can’t decide between 500/400 test/DHB or 300/300/400 test/DHB/EQ. Going to be bulking and the dryness and hunger boost from the eq sounds nice and I can normally run test/eq 1:1 without crashing e2. On the other hand, I don’t know how DHB will affect aromatization since I haven’t run it before plus I want to see what it’ll do on its own. I’m thinking of taking the middle path and starting with the the first option then getting bloods week four and adding eq if e2 is way high.

>>74189889
You won't handle DHB pip

>>74189360
I have two jobs, my main job is the one I work Mon-Thurs with college in Friday, and my second job after college on Friday and then on Saturday, but the second job and college is piss easy and doesn't require the meds, so I'll probably only tskr it Mon-Thurs and see how that goes

Anyone else here use the B&C lifestyle as male birth control? Been on 12+ years, never took HCG, always creampie the wife. Went off twice to have 2 kids.

>>74189316
I tried the same thing with my urologist a few weeks ago, but she told me my total test was too high.
I'm now thinking about starting my first cycle.

>>74189943
I’ve thought of that and my backup-backup plan is 600/450 test/eq with like 200 DHB.

>>74190052
>Urologist
That’s your problem. They’re used to handling dudes who can’t get it up and are eligible for AARP memberships along with BP+High Cholesterol issues. As a result they’re overly conservative.
The best TRT provider is probably going to be TRT nation because they thrown in HCG for only $30 more a month and underground/grey market HCG is notoriously underdosed.

>>74190019
trt diagnosed with rare blasts. Generally pullout with the occasional creampie. finally got around to getting a fertility test. Based on swimmers alone it's unlikely I'd get anyone pregnant at 1m. Average is 40m-300m. Not surprised considering where my natural test was at before hopping on TRT years ago.

my friendship with deca is over bros. it fucks my bp and lipids. I think I’ll go back to 500mg test blasts until the year I’m ready to get on stage. I’ll be competing in the mixed disability category which is a meme anyways

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>>74189553
i started when i was 25 and came off and on while gettting TRT from a doctor who told me to dose testosterone cypionate once 1/ml per 200mg every three weeks.
My balls would shrink, grow, shrink, grow. I then tried going to 1 g because my quality of life was so awful that i was content with heart failure if i could get to look like zyzz even for a week.

They always bounce back the problem is your sperm count doesnt really. I took hcg then stopped and switched to clomid like the reddit wiki said and while my balls will always grow in size and weight the sperm is always clear until i pin testosterone again.

But natty my testosteorne is 195 ng/dl so keep that in mind.

>>74190122
>TRT nation
I just looked this up, but it seems they only operate in the US. Sadly i'm not from the US.

>>74190738
Just keep watching anime, you're too retarded to do roids.
Side note, you'll never look like zyzz with test alone.

What happens if I start a cycle suppressed?

>>74185428
nothing's going to happen. Go back to /pol/ and hide under your race car bed waiting for WW3 to happen.
Also I have years worth of test. A single 10mL vial will get you through almost 6 months of trt.

how much am I fucking up my prostate by taking steroids? 500mg/week

>>74191417
anywhere from none to a lot

>>74191426
How can you tell?

>>74191439
you'll know when it happens

>>74191417

Pay attention to any symptoms with urination or pain in your nuts. Get your PSA tested every now and then.

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My little moonshot fantasy is to organize a handful of bros and go to China and tour labs and negotiate group buys. It would be like a business vacation where we get jacked afterwards.

I've seen on other boards some of the suppliers do invite whales, so I bet they'd do the same for a potential group buy.

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My joints are conspiring to team up and destroy everything. One knee is fucked and the shoulder on the other side is acting up. I was thinking of BPC and GH but I'm natty and know nothing about injections. I was reading up on the steroid wiki and understand that both of these will work with subcutaneous injections and the BPC should be close to the sight of injury. Since I have two trouble spots should I split injections between them? Also, should I use the nearest medically advised injection area to the injuries, or should I actually just pinch up some skin like right over my patella or something for example and jab that shit in there? Please be patient pros I avoided roiding in the first place because I have a room temperature IQ. I'm just down to desperation here.

>>74183014
that's a man

>>74192910
>Sight of injury
Site you dumb fuck greetings from the first world

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>>74192836
Why the fuck would I ever want to meet any of you IRL, much less go to CHINA with you, much MUCH less going to china to tour a drug manufacturing laboratory to purchase bulk quantities of illicit substances?

You’re so retarded it’s a little cute bro

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>>74185981
QSC is my goto

>>74193106
wtf is that pic

>>74193114
Tren

I'm cutting right now and i'm considering throwing in 20mg of sdrol (on top of my cruise dose of course) because last time i took it while bulking it killed my appetite like nothing else.

>>74186120
your muscle has zero density to it

>>74193114
Indians store their curry in strange places.

dumb question but can someone post that estrogen management guide chart? you know the one.

fraud am going to a hooker. will she hate me if i pop some viagra + stims beforehand?

>>74194181
Last time i went to a hooker i couldn't cum in 50 minutes. She then told me she is too exhausted and asked me to leave.

>>74194234
>she is too exhausted
From what? She was fucking you in the ass whole time?

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Do I have to do PCT? All my friends are saying it's compulsory post-cycle? Is it? Even for small oral cycles? I just want to use all my money for drugs and hookers.

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>>74194181
>caring what a literal hooker thinks
>>74194234
Where I live we either pay hourly, for 1 night, or per ejaculation. Last option being the smartest.
t. Can cum more than onc

>>74194331
>Do I have to do PCT?
You don't. Running pct does not affect your ability to restore natural test production. It's there only to help you during that process. For sure you will be better off doing pct rather than coming off cold turkey.

>just did the last pin of my first cycle (500mg test)
>think I'll do another cycle in Sep/Oct
Should I pct now or cruise until then? If cruising is best, what would be a good weekly dose to start with?

>>74194692
Cruise.
>what would be a good weekly dose to start with?
The one that keeps you at high T levels without the need to take ai.

I am running 140mg/w, my test is at 1900ng/dl and my e2 at 90pg/ml. I never take ai while cruising

>>74187515
To be honest doctors don't know much about anything. If you ever have an issue that's more intense than a headache you are just fucked until you find the right specialist. Even then the specialists sorta just go through the motions and do whatever copy/paste surgery or treatment they always do. Like if you have a rare symptom that only happens in 2% of people with your affliction they will short circuit. You basically have to research and diagnose yourself, then haggle with your doctors for the correct referrals. The most annoying part is bringing it up in a way that allows your doctors to preserve their ego. If you're upfront about it they will shut down and try to diagnose you with something else to prove they are the doctor and not you. I don't know what these stupid faggots do in medical school for 9 years but it doesn't work.

>>74194360
I paid 100 € for 1 hour and a maximum of 2 ejaculations. 10 minutes were lost due to negotiating and she took a little break inbetween. It was a waste of money, but i plan on going there again soon.

Not a sourcing question!

Is the *brand* driada medical legit? I'm not asking about where to buy from them, just if their products are good quality.

>>74195268
Their shit is overpriced, their support are brain dead fucking shitskins who barely speak english and they use scam sites for payment. Do not order anything from them.

>>74195437
I thought it varied based on resellers. I'm paying with crypto, so I don't see how the payment processor matters. I don't need any support anyway, and I don't really care about price.

Which "brand" is the best quality, if I'm not concerned with these facts and are paying with crypto?

>>74195459
>best quality
No such thing as "best" quality. It's all subjective. Price is what matters. Some people like when gear is overdosed because you get more for less but others may find it problematic because they have their shit dialed in for specific doses. Fortunately, "overdosed" products are not overdosed to any significant amount.

>>74187515
>It's pretty weird that a fucking DOCTOR is just a simple retard when it comes to any hormone.
Doctors are just trained to keep fatasses and the elderly alive. if a doctor has to do more than tell you that you're fat they're at a complete loss. If you have a condition that has nothing to do with being fat and it's not a physical injury they'll have no clue what they're looking at.

99/100 times a doctor looking at bloodwork will just look for the H or L markers denoting something is out of range then give you chatGPT tier advice to make the H or L disappear. They might prescribe something if it's something they like the prescribe. For TRT seek out a doctor or clinic that prominently displays that it's LGBTQ+ friendly. They'll be more knowledgeable about hormonal deficiencies since their clients are trying to stay in a healthy range for their gender.

>>74195437
who the fuck needs product support for illegal steroids?

>>74194799
t. some 17 yo faggot in perfect health who never needed a doctor

>>74193565
ffs sake just semaglutide if you want appetetite suppression

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>>74190019
I love boomers spreading this meme. Telling dudes in their 20s that blasting is birth control is devilish fucking trolling. 10/10, go bust nuts in 18 year olds and see what happens

>>74195935
t. doctor with fragile ego

No matter what dose Adex you take, is it better to split it in 2 every 3.5 days as opposed to once a week because of the half life?
Can you explain the rebound to me when you take it?

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>>74196023
ideally you want 3x a week. Half life is shorter, and it's non suicidal. I'd pick up some Aromasin next time desu.
>>74193497
tren is lighter yellow powder, that's definitely DNP.

The best smelling raw is NPP, it smells so good. The absolute worst smelling one is Test Cyp, which makes sense because most people who use Cyp are faggots.

Redpill me on tendon growth peptides.

>>74193106
>DNP
It's over.

Can I run Anavar 2 month on 2 month off forever

>>74196057
>most people who use cyp are faggots
? (I don’t use cyp)

>>74196797
Not forever, only until you die all of a sudden due to fucked up lipids. Remember that cholesterol being out of whack doesn't hurt.

>>74197085
y-yes but wont the 2 months off fix the lipids

>>74197140
Just run anavar for 6 months straight. You will realize how fucking useless it is and you will never consider taking a steroid for women again.

>>74197171
isnt dianabol like the best for men healthwise or something (as in, least damaging and most bang for your buck)

>>74183093
>stop shrinking
they didn't tell you?

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>>74197085
>cholesterol

>>74197085
>retards drink themselves stupid
>live to 60s and 70s
>This nigger thinks var is going to kill him in his 20s
lol, I love how scared natty faggots/trters are.

>>74192910
LGD4033 and MK677. However, I’d only do this if you’re bulking. Mk677 will make your stomach a black hole.
The combo makes your tendons feel like you’ve shot CLP into them.

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>>74197257
Thank you based anon. I've been monitoring this shit since I posted because I basically can't do anything remotely heavy at the moment between these two cursed joints fucking my shit up. I will look into it immediately. Many gains to you.

>>74197274
NP. Oh yeah. I hope you’re on some form of TRT (either Clomid or Test C weekly) from your doc to prevent test suppression/shutdown. If it’s the former, buy NAC, TUDCA, and Milk Thistle to prevent your live from exploding. If you’re on Berberine that helps too.

>>74197247
Arnie is still kicking I guess.

What would LeBron's stack be?

>>74187515
Doctors don't learn about banned substances in the US. We learn the major side effects that someone may show up in the hospital with (e.g polycythemia, stroke, ruptured hepatic adenoma) but the rest is not taught at all. Maybe an endocrinology fellow might get into a bit more depth, but your average family practice doctor who was usually a nerd growing up, is not going to know much about anabolics unless they happened to have a patient they got along with who used and they miraculously didn't judge them. Also, most physicians are specialized now, so don't expect generalists to know anything. I don't really know shit about what happens in a clinic anymore but I know how to characterize liver lesions, including the ones many of the people in this thread probably have.

>t. doctor (radiologist)

My local lab doesn't have an option to check for e2 or anything, just testosterone and basic blood markers. Do you NEED to get those levels tested or is it possible to just feel out if your estrogen is high ?

I wanted to do just 600 test for my first blast but my friends said I would make more gains on just 350 test + another compounds like deca/npp
is this true

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>>74196811
I'm just joking, most clinics use Cyp. I have no idea why, it's a slightly longer ester that crashes at the same levels of E unless you use mig or EO. Dogshit imo.
>>74197323
>niggers blasting insulin and growth hormone
>Var is just as bad as that
lmao
>>74197487
Ultalabs, get e2 checked. Your lab not checking it is absolutely retarded.
>>74197493
Test is best a meme, everybody who is strong asf and lean is blasting everything other than test. I got one of my guys to run 300 tren and 250 test, instead of his usual 500 test and his bench exploded from 275 for 5 to 375 for 5 in 4 months.

Primo vs winstrol for cutting? Maybe even equipoise? Other than the fat loss goal I’m trying to get liver/lipids to recover from blast.

Also, how the duck do I know if I’m actually hitting the ventroglute area? All the pictures show it as if you inject it at the side whereas I’m like rear hip area. Feels much stiffer than dorsal glute. I’ve tried the “stepping on a cigarette” trick to see the muscle but it still feels like a different area than videos show. Is there even anything particularly worse by just injecting dorsalgluteal?

anyone go enhanced after a long layoff? i had a string of incredibly shit life circumstances (work injury, wife cheated, was an alcoholic for a year) in the past few years and i haven't trained in 3 years at this point. before that i had about 5 years of consistent quality lifting and nutrition. i had always planned on hopping on eventually so was thinking of training for a bit natty to get back into it and then starting. or should i not even bother with that?

>>74197297
Clomid doesn’t work as a test base if something suppresses you, it will have zero effect. It’s also not even known to be liver toxic at any beneficial level.personally, I just took it 50/ED and my ALT and AST stayed basically the same.

>>74197581
ok fine ill try test E then
I have 3 more test C vials though...

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Redpill me on DHEA & Pregnanolone

>>74197584
none of those things burn fat and they will all probably hurt your cholesterol

Is it safe to only inject delts? Some R*dditor says you should swap injection sites

>>74197591
You probably can get back to your near top natty levels relatively quickly. I would stick with your original plan, but I don't know how much difference it would make.
>>74198124
You're gradually building intramuscular scar tissue hitting the same sites over and over.

>>74198162
>You're gradually building intramuscular scar tissue hitting the same sites over and over.
i've heard this but does that actually cause problems? what does the scar tissue DO that i should be worried about it?

>>74198185
I asked this earlier in this very thread
>>74184901
>>74184988
Idk about delts but the ass muscles seem so huge and resilient I don't think I'll run into problems "overpinning" these for a while at least.

>>74198162
I guess I can give ventroglue a try, my syringes are half an inch though not sure if it will reach the muscle since im not lean

>>74198185
>>74198218
I have enough scar tissue in my ass that I HAVE to use 23G needles. If I hit it right with anything smaller the needle literally bends
But if the the biggest problem with long term pinning is just that it makes pinning harder, it’s pretty inconsequential

>>74198394
oh shid that sucks and sounds kinda painful
how long + the frequency were you pinning ass for that to be an issue?

>>74198185
>>74198252
I can't say myself if it causes problems, but having a bunch of scar tissue in your muscle seems to me like it could impede contraction eventually. What "a bunch" is maybe depends on the muscle, but it does make me think glute pins are a safe bet if you're not interested in rotating sites.

Hate test flu. I usually get it at the start of my cycle and it returns if I decide to up the dose

tfw too fat to do steroids

>>74197274
>>74192910
This retard here again. Mk677 appears to be a growth hormone stim. If I'm just trying to use it for recovery, could I avoid the LG and not deal with a suppressive effect? Or is the LG a complement to the tendon/joint benefits?

>>74198482
take DHT so you can stop being fat

>>74198632
im on liraglutide and have dropped 15kg but probably have at least another 10 before i'd even be approaching the bf where it isnt retarded to pin

>>74183093
>Cialis 10mg ED
>Letro 0.3mg ED
>Telmisartan 40mg ED
>Being lean (8% bf dex)
Balls bigger now after 4 years on 400mg/wk Test and 30mg ED Var than before. Like a pair of golf balls.

Is the US warehouse premium really worth it? Test is so cheap to make how many corners can the other pharmacies be cutting? Also I’ve order anavar from both EU and US and the EU seemed to work better and only the US one fucked up my alt. I only increased the dose by 10 ED
>>74198647
You’ve been on anavar for fucking 4 years??

>>74197948
Only worth taking after 30s, after 30s your natty dhea and preg stop producing what they used to

>>74198594
If you’re focused on recovering, then BPC157 and TB500 are your thing to look up. They’re injectables but Subcutaneous, so use a 27G insulin needle and you won’t feel crap.

>>74198647
>>74198672

>You’ve been on anavar for fucking 4 years??

Seconding this what the fuck

>>74198672
>>74198952
Anavar's liver problems are way overblown, at least at the dose I'm on. My liver enzymes haven't changed at all. Tbh, it's not been a transformative drug, just a bit of extra boost. If it wouldn't cause me to have to pin twice a week instead of once, I'd drop the var and go for more test.

>>74198482
losing fat is easier than gaining muscle

37 years old and have kids already. B&c for life for me. Did my first cycle starting at 200 test 100 mast and titrated up to 250 test e 150 mast e. Ran that for 10 weeks.

I'm cruising now at 150mg of just test e. What should my next cycle be?

I was thinking something like 200 test, 200 mast, 100 tren e and seeing how that goes. I've got a lot of recomping to do.


Thoughts? I'm trying to do this safer as a bigger boi.

>>74200156

Meant 20 weeks. Typo

>>74199033
yeah but gaining muscle is fun both training and eating wise

>>74200690
I wish I felt that way. I think exercise and eating are both boring, I just like the effects of them. This is my curse, we all have our crosses to bear

>>74200707
Is the food you make boring dogshit that you eat over and over again though? If you're eating a lot the world really is your oyster in terms of what kind of meals you can make. I made korean fried chicken yesterday for example and it was very good. For training I guess that can't be helped, most of my friends find it boring as hell like you do.

>>74184112
I love EQ.
First time I ran it w/ a 1:1 ratio of test
300/300. (athlete so I keep doses low)
Felt great for the first 14 weeks- endurance through the roof felt an increase in my athleticism. then crashed my e2, ended up getting a bad injury during that time as well.
Took some d-bol for a few weeks and got straightened out but fuck I do not wish low E sides on my worst enemy.

>>74185400
You will probably recover decently after that so long you make sure you do a proper PCT.

>>74185981
Brah stay the fuck away from that shit lol.
But I am sure you could search it on SST
(steroid source talk)

>>74188124
What do you consider a low dose?

>>74191417
I am on a trt dose right now but when I have run high doses of test I was pissing all the time.
Probably due to my prostate getting enlarged.
As a man your predestined to have prostate problems, test will just speed up the process.

>>74196270
They're okay but don't work miracles.
BPC & TB are worth taking if you're injured and do help but it isn't magic.
You will still need PT and time off to fully recover.

>>74197425
Most likely a low dose of test maybe some EPO.

>>74197948
Its good if you are deficient in preg & DHEA.

>>74200824
Not him, but i just hate eating in general. Even if it's my favourite dish, i just want to get it over with and have to drink a lot after i'm finished to get rid of the taste. For me, eating is like working. It's just something that has to be done.
I enjoy training though.

>>74198910
How much though? And I'm reading pills aren't that bioavailable so is there injectable sold? Never seen it on UGL sites.
>>74200892
Do you measure both DHEA and DHEA-S?

>>74200156
How were the gains? I'm in the same boat as you

Just hit 4 weeks on my first cycle and fucked an absolute dime 21 year old 2 nights ago, probably the hottest girl I've ever had sex with. She loved my forearm veins. Then yesterday went to a pool party and had multiple people tell me I'm jacked, diced, etc and 2 people even said I was the best looking guy in the venue.

Is this how people switch mindsets from

>just one cycle

to

>eh I'll just cruise after this lol

>>74201893
No. Most people don’t get any more bitches just cause they get a little bigger. If the personality and confidence was there, you were already getting laid. If it wasn’t, it’s probably still not there and you’ll still creep people out. They switch because the first cycle is like jumping into a void. Remember your first time pinning? Do you even think about it now when you pin? It becomes familiar and less scary whereas the “one cycle” guys are just hedging because they imagine all sorts of side effects.

>>74201893
do you really think your appearance changed that much in a month on babbies first cycle that it is the cause of any of this lol

>>74201893
Lol nice troll

>>74198647
Then you woke up

>>74200156
Woah bro you titrated from 200 to 250 nice joke post

>>74200868
300mg
Love running 300 test 300 EQ for pretty much an enhanced cruise
Pretty much what you said here >>74200851
I've never had low e problems

>>74202053
was already getting laid a lot desu, just thought it was interesting I get with the hottest girl I've ever been with now that I'm on cycle lol

>>74202257
No not really but I think being vascular helped, for example. Probably just more confidence than anything.

>>74202317
not trolling lol but thanks for reading my blog anyway

I dont get laid despite being jacked and 6'2''. That's how ugly my face is

imagine living with the fear of getting bitch tits
every single day
every single day when you check your physique in the mirror , the first thing you do is stare at your potentially feminized nipples with dread

can't be me

I'm two weeks into a three month clen cycle. Anything I should watch out for beyond the obvious?

>>74202835
by all mean ingest a harmful drug for several weeks before learning anything about it.

>>74202887

Real banger of a nothing-post anon. You sure showed me!

>>74202923
nta but you didn't fair better champ

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>>74201667


I went from 232 Jan 1 to 242 this morning. I've been eating pretty clean and lifting 5 days a week. I have been eating 2100 cals a day and trying to hit 150g protein. All in all I'm not mad at it. I am doing it with lower dosages and don't mind the long game. I know im still gross but I'm a work in progress.

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>>74201667

>>74203113
>>74203125
why are you on gear when you're still this high bf?

Which steroids will make cooming more intense and my pp more sensitive?
t. gooner

>>74203149

Because a lot of this "achieve natty potential first" is gatekeeping and gay as fuck. Also my natural test was in 400s and I'm 37 years old with 3 kids. I felt like shit all the time and lifting wasn't giving me the results I was used to getting in the past. I was going onto TRT no matter what.

Taking what I need and doing blood work and nothing is out of line with me so far. That's why I started out conservatively and worked up to 250mg test e and 150mg mast e.

With just that dose, my test levels were over 1500 and I felt great.

Done with the 20 low dose blast, now cruising on 140-150mg of test and will assess after bloodwork for the next blast but so far, so good. At least for me.

>>74203228
Roids do the opposite

>>74203281
>>74203113
Get a haircut, shave your pedo mustache, get some sun, get a tan. You're fat that's why your test levels are low, trt is just putting a bandage to the real issue.
>using mast on high body fat
You're too retarded to use roids, fatfuck

>>74203420
You probably don't do any yourself ya fucking nerd.

MUH FINISHER MAST. yep, definitely doesn't help with high e2 symptoms, and increases strength as well. Only used for vascularity.

You live your life, I'll live mine. Next.

>>74203113
you should eat even less because youre so overweight. Like 1500 calories max a day.

>>74203442
YOU'VE HIGH E2 SYMPTOMS BECAUSE YOU'RE A FATFUCK
>let me do anything I can except losing weight
Lost cause

>>74203125
>roiding for this
Roiding before even trying it natty and figuring out what works best for you is usually a recipe for disaster dude.

>>74203557
I'm not giving you my whole life backstory but used to fight professionally back in the day so I'm not just jumping in not knowing what needs to be done.

>>74203543
Lol

Don't have any e2 symptoms. That's why starting low and working up is working for me. I don't need to lose weight. I need to lose fat. Which I have. Clearly

>>74203228
This:
>>74203399

What you're looking for are stims especially MDMA and coke
They're known as party drugs for a reason

>on 200mg test, 500iu hcg
>e2 low 80s
>take quarter pill adex
>feel suicidal
welp

>>74200824
>Is the food you make boring dogshit that you eat over and over again though?
Well yes and no, this semester I'm back living with my parents but even the variety of things they make doesn't really interest me. I like tasty food but have always had a small appetite. You're right though, I do think novelty helps with making eating not feel like a chore that I just want to get over with.

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>>74201893
How did you meet the hot girl? How did you get invited to a pool party? Asking for a friend

>>74204503
Well beats having a ferocious neverending appetite like me I'd say

>>74203399
I feel like my nuts have been insane, I'm on the first month of my first cycle. Is it the HCG?

>>74204242
Dim bro

>>74198972

how are your lipids? just 5wks on 40mg var daily tanked my HDL.

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>>74204526
Met her at this bar that was having a Derby party. Her and her friends were next to our table so we just said what's up and went from there. Pool party as in a dayclub (The W in Scottsdale) was with college buddies, had a long weekend there with them.

>so we just said what's up and went from there.
normal people cant understand how crazy this sounds to autists

>>74205282
Of course. I don't even know why I ask, I know the reason I can't meet women is become I'm stuck in my 30k pop retirement home of a hometown. All the barflies here are old or ugly. Nice weekend tho anon

>>74205456
I was at a club a few weeks ago and was shitfaced drunk and had snorted some coke and remember thinking about approaching some women but even in that state I had 0 game lmao

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>>74205504
If you're not ugly or look/act weird, you don't even have to approach them, just be intentionally close to them, make eye contact and smile (assuming you don't have fucked up teeth either), and drunk bitches will almost always spark up a conversation.

>>74205697
I'm like a 6 in the face after a fresh haircut and beard trim and thats if im being generous. I don't think it works like that where I live, the average woman here is way more attractive than the average man (slav country) so all my friends that get laid a lot have very good game.

>start first cycle 250 test E E3.5D 250 iu HCG 3x week
>first week great libido and boners
>currently third week and dick is dead
>fucked one of my long time girl best friends for the first time two days ago
>cutesy innocent freckled 18 yr old with good body
>still cant keep an erection at all, went soft multiple times mid fuck
>she’s ghosting me now

How do I get my dick working again? I realized I was starting to get high e2 sides a day or two before we fucked (oily skin + water retention + feeling of high blood pressure) so i took my first .5mg adex three days ago and another yesterday, plan on taking one more with my pin tomorrow and sticking to 0.5 mg e3.5d after that. My dick still isn’t working and is completely insensitive, could high prolactin be the issue? Ordered p5p which i plan to take 100mg ED but if that doesn’t fix this shit I might blow my brains out.

Also, what do I do about the girl? I wouldn’t care if it was some random bitch but we were really good friends for a long time and now I feel like both the friendship and hookup aspects are fucked just because I couldn’t give her good dick. She’s super innocent and shy and sweet too, she told me I was the first guy she ever tried flirting with openly and I feel like I fucked it up because my dick didn’t work. Should I be optimistic about the p5p? Would DHEA or progesterone help?

>>74205801
just take some cialis dumb nigga

>>74183014
Where is the sticky? Where can I go to lookup sources and what should I type?

>>74205808
where do I get that shit? No shot I get a script from a telemedicine place because I’m 20 and I don’t have an actual doctor to go to either. Should I pay up for some from an indian pharmacy or try to find a UGL source on SST to get it cheaper?
>>74205859
use the steroid subreddit wiki for info
steroid source talk website for sources

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Well, I am almost out of my TRT supply. Anybody know any good new UGLs?

Catcafe was the best but guess they are out of the game now

>>74205956
just go to thinksteroids and find your own source

>>74205992
I like SST but I went on meso idk why everyone there at meso hates on SST????

>>74205801
>250 iu HCG 3X week
hcg is trash drop that shit, literally sterilizes you and raises estrogen you don't need it, if you want to come off just use pregnenolone and T3, I know many that have recovered that way despite taking test for years, its the best PCT method.
>took my first .5mg adex three days ago and another yesterday
Swap out adex for asin, way better you don't get estrogen rebound meaning you don't have to take it constantly, with asin you can just take 2-3 times a week and be fine.
>could high prolactin be the issue?
Yes prolactin can be used as a marker for estrogenicity. So if its high try lowering estrogen or take P5P yeah it can help.
>DHEA or progesterone help?
Eh, just skip em.

If you want the best EQ then take DHT, it blows everything out the water.

>>74206058
wdym by sterilizes you? I thought HCG was good for keeping your balls working/sperm counts

i would use asin but Im afraid of hair loss side effects. already on finasteride at 20 and was on it before my cycle too. still have a good hairline and thick hair (norwood 1ish) but am freaked out about it because it was going fast before i caught it. also afraid of DHT for hair loss purposes.

might get some 20mg cialis capsules and try to dissolve it in a solution to dose 5mg ED if the p5p doesn’t solve the issue. still sad about the girl but nothing i can do outside of avoiding the same situation in the future

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>>74183014
Is tren worth the side-effects and need to pin everyday?

>>74203281
>Because a lot of this "achieve natty potential first" is gatekeeping and gay as fuck.
Yeah you are not gonna make it buddy I can tell. The gatekeeping is for your own good.

>>74203745
>I'm not giving you my whole life backstory but used to fight professionally back in the day so I'm not just jumping in not knowing what needs to be done.
You look like a bitch made sissy that at best fights like Gypsy Crusader (so like shit). You were no pro you were a weekend warrior amateur.

>>74206058
let me guess... ray peater?

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>>74206230
I can already tell you overpaid for that tren by about 200%. Either way, Ace is for ED pinning. Some guys like E but i'm not a fan, I have less sides on ace and when i'm done. I'm done and it's out of my system.
>>74206258
nta, I wasted 6 years training natty. Should've hopped on after 3 desu.

>>74206305
Porky here probably has only lifted for 1 year and is unable to put the fork down so he is uneligible for steroid use.

>>74206312
true.

Is mixed HCG useless after 1 month or 2?

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>>74206305
>Either way, Ace is for ED pinning. Some guys like E but i'm not a fan, I have less sides on ace and when i'm done. I'm done and it's out of my system.

Yes, I got E because I didn't want to pin every day. There's that much of a different with sides if you take a longer lasting ester? Can you tell me which sides you had?

Also, picked up picrel. Took 20mg today and could already feel cardio to be easier but that may be placebo. Anyone in here have any experience? I go running on the treadmill for cardio.

>>74206364
Nah
As long as you keep it in the fridge it it's fine for months honestly
Might lose like 10% potency after 6 months which is still nbd

>>74205801
Like the other dude said try dropping the HCG
For some people it really fucks with them and you could be one of those people
Otherwise if it's the 250 test that's causing you these issues sorry to say but this probably ain't for you

>>74206466
>Took 20mg today and could already feel cardio to be easier but that may be placebo
Nah it's an oral bro
Kicks in same day in a matter of minutes

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Today I will remind them to take your daily Cardarine

>>74206005
tribalism

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>>74206466
>>74206466
E has a lower molecule weight, essentially get less mg than Ace. Less potent. Why E is worse to start with Tren if you're a noob is because you don't know if you'll like it. E takes forever if to leave your system. You will love tren or hate it, there is no inbetween.
>sides
Mainly mental, you're on edge alot more. If you're a chill guy it's not gonna matter. You will get worse sleep, but if you off set it with 20mg of Benadryl and 5mg of melatonin, I sleep 7-8 hours easy on 500-700 of ace. YMMV.
>cardarine
It's a wonderful drug, completely offsets and improves cardio on tren. Mix it with winstrol and you BLAZE through cardio and extra sets. Improves your lipids as well, which is essential when running orals and tren.
>>74206519
based
>>74206525
Meso is shithole imo.

>>74189606
women fake tears.

>>74206540
>Why E is worse to start with Tren if you're a noob is because you don't know if you'll like it.
I've taken it before. Tried ace first but didn't want to pin everyday so I took E but my entire body was full of lactic acid I couldn't walk a block without having extreme shin splints and back pumps. Took a lot of Taurine but that didn't help.

I'm also an insomniac and take medicine to sleep but tren fucked that up for me too.

>You will love tren or hate it, there is no inbetween.
I stopped taking it because it felt awful, but I saw gains unlike no other. I'm thinking of taking it again this summer with a cut.

>>74206497
>Kicks in same day in a matter of minutes
Fuck yes. That's great to know. What have you been doing cardio-wise to max out the benefits of cardarine? I'm thinking stairmaster or some shit. Wish I had a prowler.

>>74206613
I bought some more tren and im so tempted to add it in but it just destroys my sleep

I'm 5'5 and 125 so my TDEE is 1800. Is it ok to go below the 1,500 calorie minimum recommendation? My nutrition is good

>>74206662
Literally me. I wish I could sell this stuff.

>>74206613
>>74206662
You have to keep e2 on point with tren. You don't need caber if you keep your estrogen lowish, high e2 and tren equals insomnia.

How many times have y'all run it? I've ran it 5 times and I can honestly say I have nowhere near the sides I had on my first couple runs of tren. My sleep is great, and just feel good in general. I think you get less and less problems the more you run it.

>>74206285

I'd show you but you'd piss your pants and wouldn't say shit if you had a mouth full of it if we were talking in real life. In all probability you're so autistic you can't make eye contact with another person from the outside world, so I hope talking shit anonymously makes you feel good enough to not shoot up a school or something like that

>>74206827
Here are the facts: you’re a fat, lazy retard who can’t stop eating and just hopped on roids.

I bet you’ve never even been in a fight lmao

>>74206825
What was your dose? Enth or ace? I have a hard time believing anyone sleeps well on tren e. Ace wasn’t as bad. Tren e is terrible

>>74206825
I've ran it twice so far only side I've gotten is insomnia I take prami for the prolactin but it is possible my e2 was high so I might look into that

Is insensitive dick and taking forever to cum high estrogen?

>>74206854
Ace, bout 600 ew, pinned Ed. I have never liked E, I don't understand whats the big deal of pinning everyday either.

>>74206922
You need to keep e2 in check or low on tren. I'm telling you, I had terrible insomnia with my first couple runs because I did not use enough ai. Disappeared with more ai use.

>>74206922
Should have said ran 400 both times first was E and second was ace EOD pinning

>>74206841
Lol ok bud

>>74206174
>I thought HCG was good for keeping your balls working/sperm counts
yeah pretty much, that anon has to do some explaining
>i would use asin but Im afraid of hair loss side effects
so asin's (very rare) hair loss effect is alopecia, not your usual DHT-induced hair loss. It's the immune system attacking your hair. Either you'll get it or you won't (your in all likelihood won't, it was reported in one study where it was being used for breast cancer treatment).
>>74206058
>hcg is trash drop that shit, literally sterilizes you
brother you're gonna have to elaborate because established knowledge holds the opposite. Are you saying your balls get desensitized and stop producing swimmers on their own or something?

>>74206613
>What have you been doing cardio-wise to max out the benefits of cardarine?
Just less rest time between sets and exercises so can get out of the gym sooner especially during peaking volume weeks

>>74206928
That or high prolactin but probably estrogen yeah

>>74206005
Meso have less usa sources, mainly shitty ones or overpriced ones. Chinese tranny is the only good thing about meso.

>>74207156
I take 1mg of prami a day is that enough to offset prolactin from deca just upped my dose to 500

Hair loss is DHT connecting to androgen receptors in the scalp IIRC due to the higher than normal test, but once you're off cycle your test is back to normal. So couldn't you rin fin/minox on cycle and then go off them post-cycle if you're not a normally high androgen/dht affinity person?

>>74194773
are you fat?

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>>74206540
>Meso is shithole imo.
what's the issue with meso? They're roasting a sketch source alive over there and I've been reading their thread to get caught up. I actually bought from that source's rebrand that they used to get past the SST ban lmao. I may be fucked.

>>74207466
Objectively i am lean, non-lifters say that i have zero body fat, subjectively i am fat as fuck.

3 weeks into cycle rn and I already spilled over and got too fat. Do i suck it up and keep bulking or do a 10 day mini cut then get back on the bulk but cleaner? If i stay where I am but bulk cleaner is there any chance I could lose bodyfat while still gaining weight? on 500 test

Is it morning wood when I wake up 6 AM to pee and then sleep again? Because I dont get it when I wake up a second time

>>74207618
Your gear was probably underdosed, cross contaminated or fake if you bought their primo. Live and learn
I bought their primo, I'm sure it was fake or mixed with test or mast

>>74208461
You're probably just bloated, especially if you haven't taken an AI yet. I thought the same, ate light one day, and realized I was still very lean. Just extremely bloated and stomach full of food drastically misleads you on how lean you are.

>>74203113
>>74203125
What a fucking idiot

>>74208514
>Is it morning wood when I wake up to pee
Nigger, are you 12 years old or something? "Morning wood" is something that prevents you from pissing the bed.

>>74206230
>worth the side-effects
Depends on how far things go. You have a good job or career you can't afford to lose? You in a good relationship you don't want to end?
The answer's yes regardless
Like other anon said every day pinning isn't necessary for Tren E. 3 times a week is good, 2 works
Love Tren but it's got me in always hungry mode with bad cravings. Not good for this cut
>>74204551
I hear you brother

>>74208927
then what prevents women from pissing the bed?

>>74206364
50% potency after 45 days.
Jano posted an experiment on this.

>>74208927
Then why dont low test guys piss the bed? they dont have hardons in the morning

>>74209249
Damn what a worthless substance

>>74185400
>250mg a week
Literally zero point in doing this as a cycle

>>74209397
why? I 5000 IU vial should get used up in about month anyway if you're doing the standard 750per week. Just double the dose if there's any left after a month or so.
Its also why I dont by the cheaper 10000 iu vials. I'll never use them in time before they lose too much potency

>>74209223
Nothing you fucking zoomer. Women can't even hold piss while being fully awake and aware. How come you never heard about tena lady products and other "discreet" diapers for women? You can't be older than 14 years old.

>>74209343
>Then why dont low test guys piss the bed?
Because they wake up because of full bladder. If they would get morning wood they could sleep without being woken up by bladder putting pressure on their urethra.

>>74191417

Fin or dut will keep your prostate (and hair) safe. If you have MPB and plan to pin test, it's mandatory, so for most men it's a no brainer to take fin or dut while frauding. Any concerns of ed will vanish as soon as you experience the raging erections test will give you.

>>74194181

When you go to a restaurant, do you ask if the shrimp likes you?

>>74186120
mirin delts

>>74193733
ignore this fag, you can't tell shit from this pic besides some good looking delts tbqhfam

>>74208610
nah no primo, just:
>test e
>anavar
>asin
>ralox
>hcg (1 pharma vial 1 ugl)
I'm in the market for some cialis and their prices are great but since I ordered all the above, my trust for them has dropped and now I'm afraid I may have been scammed on my first order
From the e2 sides I got + the fact that I got them under control, everything outside the anavar (which i haven't taken yet) is probably legit, if not underdosed. I'll try to take a blood test soon
What makes you think their primo is fake?

>>74206827
How about you tell us what combat sport you did sugar tits? Was it boxing? Kickboxing? MMA?

>>74212123
Where is the mike tyson of kickboxing?

Such a character would be impossible to grappled. I mean youd need top tier hands regardless so i guess youre best off teaching prime mike how to do karate.

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say it with me bros
IF YOU AINT PINNIN, YOU AINT WINNIN

>>74211591
I was on 500 test 600 primo, their primo. My e2 was still high on it, I had to take asin once a week.Switched to another source for primo and e2 went down.
Also if you check for their primo lab tests on meso it was done by his alts, shady ass nigger.
Nigger was banned on sst and I believe he just came back troll by selling shady compounds to the sst fags, they knew they would get banned again anyways. You should probably test the anavar. HCG should be fine since they just resell chinese hcg from QSC unless they troll you and send you a hgh instead (HGH is cheaper than HCG nowadays)

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About to start my first PCT. What should I expect? It'll last two months.

>>74212367
>I believe he just came back troll by selling shady compounds to the sst fags
my original conclusion from his activity was that he has actual gear lying around, either his own brew or just reselling, and is just massively autistic in aggressively pushing sales. The shitload of jano results he posted at least helped with that.
but now I'm afraid I'm bought straight up oil or baking soda tablets after learning more about his alt accounts. If he's propping up his reputation like that then by the time any actual users test his shit, report back, he could've made enough to just exit scam and start anew. FML
Anyway, funny thing is I think he's still doing it. Go lack the most recent poster on the mesorx thread, tommygunz. 2 week old account, same type of run on sentences and compound listing like you saw on SST

>>74209249
>Jano posted an experiment on this.
link?

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Yooo for my hairloss bros this shit is actually working
Got some new growth on top and around pic going on
:-)

>>74209249
>>74209397
Must have been outside of the fridge
But yeah that's why we've been saying you gotta buy from a sauce that knows how shitty it is if not stored properly throughout the entire process
Or buy from non-indian pharma which has to make sure it's at least like 95% potent before being sold

>>74212699
I've been using indian pharma, am I fucked?

>>74212699
The jano test had nothing to do with not being refirgerated. The reconstituted peptide degrades pretty quick.

>>74212652
What shit?

>>74213331
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