If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.Please stop replying to crabs, nodraws and howies and instead focus on posted works!>STICKY:Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Qw/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view>WHERE to get study materialsannas-archive.org>>>/ic/artbook>>>/ic/video>Want to practice figures?quickposes.comsketchdaily.netcharacterdesigns.comlovelifedrawing.composemy.artline-of-action.com>PYW and give your feedbackWhat can be improved?Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.Previous thread >>7167898
how many floating loomis heads have you grinded so far this week?
>>7170329repostan.
Reposting i guess >>7170286
I like getting these sketch animations.
>>7170361Why don't you fucking kill yourself.
>>7170363a little early in the thread to be crabbing this hard wouldn't you say friend?
>>7170340Heres an old digital painting from my cool webcomic in 2019
>>7170361nice
>>7170376schizo-kun...
Hey i have my personal crab, does that mean im progressing as an artist?
im scared :( theres too much to learn
>>7170340
>>7170414I'm sure "2000s flash game" anon would love to see this>>7169640I gotta learn how to doodle like this with color>>7169869 >>7169887Very well, hope you stick around for a long time to come, caffeine-anon>>7170007GMI>>7170061Orgasmic-Fart expression>>7170066 >No booksHeresy I say! Burn the non-believer!>>7170169Try tapered cylinders for the forearms (drawing comics the marvel way)>>7170262>>7170329>>7170345More mileage>>7170340Good old collage-style thread cover>>7170361Etch a sketch>>7170370Never too early!>>7170372Hard round brush so you know it’s legit>>7170402Hey, I reserve that title>>7170436Amen>>7170438Talking a walk through /ic/ at night
Friendly reminder this thread is fucking worthless when autistic retard narcisistic niggers like marielx post and the lost autist who thinks he can give criticism and mass replies are here.abandon and go somewhere else, you won't gain anything of value here. you arent going to improve in this place.Leave and find a real art community.
>>7170456people genuinely come here for advice?
>>7170445Why the fuck are mass replyingYou aren't even close being a beg yet you are trying to give advice???
>>7170445https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsgtry this anon, you'll improve pretty quick!Keep it up
Smell my fingers anon
>>7170345There are a few things you want to get as close to perfect as you can with figure studies, first are the line of the shoulders and the tilt of the hip. doesn't matter which landmark you use to check it, but make it as accurate as possible.When trying to understand curves like the leg contours or breast shapes, use straight lines first, as few as you can and start adding more as you begin to see the form more clearly.Be careful with adding shapes like the circles in the shoulder where its not really attaching to anything in particular, and will probably make you lose accuracy. Also don't chicken scratch, for contours, lightly erase and then go over the form once you develop the outline with the nuance you want, finding form and outlining are two separate steps.
>>7170459NTA but motherfucker someone has to mass reply? Without this dude or that Pawell fuck no one would be replying to anyone. Stop crying like a bitch and post your work and reply to other people.
>>7170482If you want advice from literal chris-chan tier autists, then sure go ahead bro.all the power to you, im sure it'll work out.
>>7170483This might be surprising to you but you can choose to just ignore any advice or critique you don't think is valid. Incredible concept I know. We need to be draw and posting art more than being crabs. That's why these threads have gone to shit because crabs are afraid to be told their art sucks by someone who is at their same skill level.
HOW DO I GET INTO ANATOMYI think I'm done with gesture for good
Sup beg, please end me.>>7170481i kneel and coom>>7170475very beg, but acceptable for keys to drawing, move to next project>>7170361damn, did you draw this with no sketch layer? do you just sit down and start putting final contours like KJG? no wonder you have personal crabs, this is awesome>>7170372nice example of bad value range. also why are you posting 5 years old art? you are supposed to post what you drew today>>7170355you could pick as reference mecha girl for example. or you can say fuck keys to drawing and pick some anime figure drawing book. but be aware skipping fundies typically ends up with /asg levels of permabegness>>7170353your portrait is basic, but nothing fundamentally wrong. you can level up rendering. for example:goodreads.com/book/show/31017263-how-to-draw-portraits-in-charcoal
How do I get my accuracy up quick, are bargue plates a bad idea for a beginner?
powerleveling goofy floating head studies until i get bored and swap to trying to start learning fantasy landscape concept art
>>7170503No no, the thing is the animation does not save when you erase, thats why it looks like the drawing suddenly appears, it doesnt count all the erasing, only the lines that are kept.
Random Sketches I've done
I can't decide what I wanna draw
>>7170540draw this
>>7170541no thanks, I'd rather draw princess peach in a micro bikini with her ass in the air
Requesting this course or at least brushes that come with it.https://www.proko.com/course-lesson/what-you-need-to-know-about-brushes/downloads
asked a few times but haven't gotten a serious answer. how did you build up your intuitive understanding of space, should i continue doing loomis mannikins from imagination or design backgrounds and vehicles per Robertson. Both? or other methods recommended?assume I'm, at least high beg, I can in rotate ze cube, and don't completely fail at placing figures in space currently, just want to get better. Things I'm struggling with for example are figuring out where the unseen edge of say a pinky finger would emerge from a hand from imagination and of course more exotic foreshortening.
>>7170475Teach me your secrets anon
>>7170503>but be aware skipping fundies typically ends up with /asg levels of permabegnessYeah thats what im afraid of. Is skipping projects on ktd bad?
>>7170571ktd is just observation drawing, you can get the same thing from master copies and live figure drawing. There's nothing you are 'skipping'
>>7170503Pawell's IMPROVING
any challenging box/cube exercises I can do?No brainless mileage like "1000 boxes" please
Can someone fix my loomis? I still think the left makes more sense, but obviously the right looks better
>>7170582Loomis for anime character?
>>7170582>loomis>anime>mfw
Reposting my thing again. Since the old thread died.Full scale since the file is huge.>https://files.catbox.moe/879o5g.png
>>7170582move face down so line is on top of eyes
Gonna do a bunch of NPC portraits this weekend I think
Genuinely when should I start with Vilppu? I'm worried I'm too /beg/
>>7170582I tried anon. Remember to define the side plane of the head and note how far away the eye is from that.
lazy doodle.
Thoughts on my figure drawing skills?
>>7170630
>>7170630love it, she looks hot even in the thumbnail...
Is small round brush a meme and if not why not?
07
>>7170639Flat round I mean.
Learning how to draw clothes finally, and subsequently I'm gonna need to learn how to actually start blocking in values because trying to do all the folds with just lines looks like ass.
>>7170643round brush is a brushwhy not what
>>7170647it’s the only brush you need?
>>7170582I think you gotta make sure the center line comes down real straight off the intersecting angle.
>>7170652I'm against categoricals. What kind of brush to use depends on what you want the result to look like. I support the idea of starting simple but decisive. If you can't define sharp change, your gradients will be even more silly anyway. But you can play with anything, just do not think you need a special brush that will make you a better artist. This is why it is recommended to just stick to hrb while you are a dummy.
day 6 of 2min sketches
>>7170655>>7170628Thanks anons
>gave up on FWAP because the pictures are too low res and small
>>7169906>op is the proof. Been doing literally the same shit for months and months. Slapping on features randomly without any kind thought of the underlying structure.Could anybody help me out?>>7169902Its literally the character I am trying to draw. >CopiesWill do
>>7170553anyone ;_;
>>7170710>should i continueyes
>>7170445Stop using so much airbrush, you are going to learn less while using it and your pictures will look worse>>7170577Draw a box giving birth
>>7170607Values are flat and there's not enough hard edges. Everything is like a soft blob. This is especially apparent on the bonemold armor, which looks weirdly fleshy and soft. I'm too beg to point out anything else, hope this helps at least.
>>7170607using screenshot to frame her is bad idea because too much noise. in conjunction with the blurry elf you get like inverse focus. view attracted to anything but elf
>>7170575I'm always thinking is the book really good to learn fundies or is it really a meme?
Someone help me correct the proportion the proportion im lost herehttps://files.catbox.moe/qo2npp.png
>>7170571make sure you ignore Pawell.
>>7170571Why *would* you skip projects? Impatience is instant ngmi
Anything to fix or improve here?
>>7170800its perfect there is nothing you can improve on
>>7170824Cool. Moving on.
>>7170798skipping the boring stuff is how I improved the fastest frfr no cap
I've been drawing for more than ten years, but could never get myself to draw for more than twenty minutes a day. Knowing that I'll never be good hurts a lot. Is there anything I can do?
how the fuck is he figuring out the height of the top plane here? Is there a formula for it?He does it again on pg 46 and just says feel it out lol
>>7170883KYS
>>7170886I guess
>>7170883go back in time and ask your mom not to drink while she's pregnant
I've decided I will copy-memorize a bunch of anime so I actually have something to draw, otherwise I'll be a permabeg studycel who can't draw for fun
>>7170884>height of the top plane hereWhat's a top plane anon.
>>7170897the plane parallel with the viewer
>>7170906Can you mark it in your loomis example.
>>7170910you clearly have no idea how to answer my question
>>7170916Suit yourself.
Is krita /beg/gar friendly? I have been doing /trad/ but got a wacom recently and I don't really know which platform is suitable.
>>7170931It's free mate. Go make up your own opinion.
>>7170931yesany works the same but some more bloated. you can use anything no big difference, krita is good
>>7170931Dave Rapoza uses it. Good enough for him, good enough for (You).it also doesnt have niggerlicious bullshit like CSP's single core performance or hebrew subscription model
>>7170800Done : )
>>7170934>>7170937Thanks, converting to digital now. Uncle Ted's gonna be disappointed.
continuation of my bridgman cop(e)ying>>7170438sexo
>>7170949Very nice anon
>>7170884has anyone actually got through chapter one of FDFAW. I'm putting in real time into mastering each page and it kicks my ass each week. Do you just emerge an /int/ after all the perspective work?
>>7170884>>7170906>>7170916You type like a retard, but in case anyone reading this has the same question - read "Framed Perspective vol. 1" - there are step by step guides on how to divide planes in perspective.
>>7170977fuck you asshole
Hi guys, I've been getting back into digital art these days and it's kicking my ass. I've mostly been doing studies to see what I can learn from my inspirations, and I got to the Bloodborne art book. I'm really struggling to replicate this kind of texturing, not just from an art perspective but rather not knowing what tools to use. When I try to blend things the way I see them it just becomes a pain in the ass because I have no clue what brush to use for what so it doesn't take an eternity.Can anyone who knows wtf they're doing tell me more about this? Pic related.
>>7170906kek holy shit you're dumb
>>7170937Is Krita better than CSP for painting? How about line drawing like for comics?
I need help figuring out if i did this drawn correctly enough.I wanted to draw a a girl and a mustang 2024 model in perspective while being relatively proportional to eachother (more or less)At first and second glance does the perspective look ok.Ofc the bodywork wont 100%match the lines of the original car. I still cant do that.
>>7170984Anon, Krita is enough for whatever you want to do. It is already a pro level tool. Just try it. Unless you work for marvel, Disney or any big Hollywood studios forcing you to do shit on 8k with a million edit effects in photoshop, you will be more than covered by Krita.
>>7170990all I'm asking is that I already have csp, but people notoriously think it's shit for painting. apparently, csp has a reputation for being a line-art only program, so I'm wondering if that's really the case, or if I should try out Krita for painting. I've been trying to paint in csp, and it's been shit, either because of my skills, or the brush engines there. idk
>>7170992>but people notoriously think it's shit for painting. apparently, csp has a reputation for being a line-art only program,What am I even reading right now
>>7170992no differentwhat this shit for paint could even meanbut you can instead just in this moment just download Krita and see does it makes you feel any better.why people are like that "brushengines" my ass. it is never software problem it is you problem
>>7170992Its nothing but faggot shit larp just like how "Macbooks are for creative types" that everyone used to peddle years ago.Tools are tools.
I'm trying Drawing For The Absolute And Utter Beginner now, seems retard friendly enough.
this shit is creepy
>>7171065Whats wrong with her FACE
>>7171075What's that in the sand over there, is that the script?
how would you fix these proportions?
how do i the environment the good the environemtn the good
>>7171091Learn the basics of composition
>>7171085Legs.The shins +heels are aboot 17% shorter then the thighbone.In cranial units, 3 craniums for the femur, 2.5 from knee to heel.Arms in a jesus wants a hug pose tip of the finger to tip of the finger are about as broad as a person is tall.However as far as Proportions of the body, and limbs.Here is a pic
>>7170529 >>7170607I would try lighting a simple sphere within the scene that you want to do first, and then try applying that to the figure / background; having the same value everywhere makes nothing in particular stand out so that also makes the whole composition somewhat bland. >>7170465Thanks!>>7170509GMI>>7170520She’ll have trouble eating with those teef>>7170622Looking forward to them>>7170628Saved>>7170629Excellent>>7170630 >>7170631I wish I could draw as loosely>>7170642Thousands of these>>7170645Excellent>>7170655Wish I could draw hair>>7170681It’s going to be a battle, it’s going to be tough>>7170697Kinky>>7170734Airbrush is just fun for doodling around with the forms, believe me - I get my hours in with hard round brush too>>7170763Just making sure that the void is spotless for any time travelers who get stuck there>>7170800 >>7170939Just gotta keep drawing>>7170949Hell yeah>>7170966Probably want like 500-1000+ hours of just recreational drawing first before trying to tackle plates that difficult (and actually learning anything from it). You get more out of copying plates the more experienced you are, and if your current skill level is too low, you learn nothing at all from it>>7170986More mileage will smooth out any inconsistencies over time >>7171065Forms are okay just need more still life>>7171085More mileage>>7171091Study other artists
>>7170481Thank you so much for this! It's super useful!I sadly couldn't draw today, shit happens, but once I can I'll work on Torsos more to try and get used to them, while also taking on your advice.
could someone redline this? I don't understand her arm at all
>>7171114Google elbow hyperextension
>>7171100Mileage incomingAs soon as i get it that is
Where is the anime anon whos studying handsI literally only browse these threads waiting for him to post an ntr drawing 、and I check pawells progress sometimes i check here and neither of them have posted so its just shit
doodle
>>7171151HOT SHIT NGHHH!
Hi how do I map patterns or objects in perspective? Like, if I wanted to draw this really elaborate pattern on the shirt in the left image with the character rotated how would I do that or where can I learn that?
>>7171114
>>7170438
Been trying to solidify her design for a while now but getting references for how to blazer should move with the body is difficult and I don't think I'm going to improve if I keep improvising it. it's pretty messy overall but I'll work to get it neater on the next one. Any critique is appreciated, particularly what I should be focusing on avoiding would really help
>>7171204>she's a porkchop nowt-thanks?
>>7171216Half the figure is extremely flat looking.
>>7170982What program do you use? Really you should just download a bunch of textured brushes and try them out to find the ones you like the best. Pay attention to not overrendering things as well.I wanted to try this style so I went onto the csp store and downloaded the first rake brush I saw and used it combined with the prepackaged brushes to make this. It took me so fucking long and looked horrible most of the way, so I gave up on doing a full rendering.try finding some speedpaints in the style you want and watching their process of drawing. You could also look into photobashing for some of the teaxtures.
>>7171216So I'm just going to take a stab in the dark and say you have a Nasuverse/Type Moon influence going on here. Mainly from how you've styled the face and the more minimal clothing design. Is she a riding jockey?For me it feels like the design is a little too plain, which could just be me. Feels very Melty Blood/Tsukihime esque. I feel like the design could have a little more to it. Specifically coming that could break the silhouette a little more like a small pouch on the straps around her thighs. Maybe some type of ornament like a necklace etc.Her weapon design also feels like it could have a more interesting shape to it. I'm not exactly sure what it's meant to represent but it doesn't automatically scream threatening weapon to me.Her pants could also have some additional impressions of detail. I'm certain the type of pants don't have belt loops but the seams and stitching should be visible to give it more interest.
>>7170755A-anyone?
>>7171228Clip Studio Paint, I'm basic like that.
>>7171221yeah I need to learn proper shading and lighting to stop everything looking so flat, its something im working on but I've definitely been slacking in that department>>7171230I've never engaged with Nasuverse, but I get why you'd assume so. The outfit is a riding jockeys yeah, but its also a personal appeal of mine and i'm fine with it being plain since it matches her as a character. The weapon is meant to be a guillotine on a stick essentially, I wanted its design to be pretty angular. My older drawings have a seam along the pants, I was just lazy and forgot them here. I am thinking of adding more to the straps such as knives. Thank you sincerely for the feedback.
>>7171248You can convey form without rendering.
One of my first try with colorsIt's really hard, I don't really get it
>>7171250is it mainly though more dynamic poses, I was always under the impression that to make stuff three dimensional, applying shadows and shading was the way to do it?
I just like drawing goblins
>>7171248This is much better. The vertical lines of the pants and the sweater/shirt beneath the blazer lead the eyes to the face/hat. There's a flow of visual interest.You should definitely do some studies on knives and other weaponry for inspiration.
>>7171212Nice insights
>one fucking hour for a sketch
>>7171162
>>7171268Michael Hampton sensei... i kneel
>>7171268>>7171212Damn
>>7171268Thank you so much for this. I'm surprised that I actually got some good insight on /ic/.Keeping track of the top planes and perspective is something that seems so obvious but feels like an actual epiphany to me because I know I didn't take that into account at any point when I was drawing the sketch, or any sketches in the past few weeks.Thanks again for this! It feels like I've got something tangible to focus on incorporating in future drawings. I was feeling a little aimless lately.
>>7170340No problem, right guys?(I know my shading sucks but this is best I can do with my current level lol)
i'm quite literally unable to place features on a face, i'm having noticiable gains and in the past week i've realized that if I hadn't give up drawing over and over again because you fucks recommend fun with a pencil that starts with those fucking heads, nowadays i'd pretty great at drawing.
>>7171340IT LITERALLY IS YOUR FAULT. If the stupid stick didn't recommend fun with a pencil as a starter book i'd be better nowEverything but putting features on heads is coming naturally to me, Loomis is a beg trap, I thought it being a beg trap was a meme but it is real
>value range: 2H, HB, 2B, 4B, 6Btrying to work on seeing subtle shifts in tonal value. will try to use better ref photos going forward (in addition to life drawings).
>>7171319love seeing your progress anon
crit on these box rotations?
>>7171319Nice hips, nice thighs, nice clothes, nice proportions but the face being only flat colours is really fucking it up.
Should I power through FWAP or start on Drawing the Head and Hands?
>>7171432it depends on your goals and your interests. one might be more beginner-friendly than the other but not as personally compelling for you and harder to slog through. just pick what seems more compelling and fits your goals. if they both more or less have the same appeal, do a coin flip and go through one and stick with it. the books will always be there to go over again. just go through one, try your best, and accept that things will not go perfectly.
>>7170977yea this was unhelpful. Constructing proper height in perspective isnt multiplication. I found a quick enough cheat that I think loomis is using here, but constructing a same height bottom and top plane requires some messing around with finding your station point.You should probably kill yourself.
Bros. Its over.
>>7171373>draws boxes without anything inside themngmi. This is how you burn out from drawing nigga.
>>7171458you do not draw
>>7171268>>7171212Added to the collection.
I'm still working on this
>>7171474YURI SPOTTED
>>7171485i say this and look like this
day 7
>>7171490good work anon
kinda happy with this one so pls tear it apart
>>7171496I feel like my sketches aren't improving much but I'm feeling more familiar with parts/movements.
>>7170798I dont know. Its just that i dont have any mechanical thing to draw and it really doesnt interest me that much. I think im just afraid to screw it up...
how's this
What's the difference between Huston and Hampton's figure drawing books?Is one easier for a /beg/ than the other?
>>7171527They're both pretty much the same, but Hampton is more thorough.
>>7171212holy shit an artist used the text tool instead of their shitty handwriting, bravo
>>7171212>>7171268Didn't know Hampton browsed /ic/I fucking kneel
>>7171527Steve Huston's is more about drawing figures in general and would be better suited for beginners, the first couple of chapter especially.Hampton's focuses more specifically on constructing the figure and anatomy. He says himself in the intro you need to be able to draw forms in perspective decently well to get much out his book. Both have supplemental videos on YouTube you should check out.
>>7171561Wait, Huston has a book? What the fuck
>>7171180Scott Robertson has a chapter on mirroring curves
>>7171577That filthy fucking nigger hack doesnt deserve even getting his books pirated.
>>7171268>>7171212goated for this
>>7170577https://youtu.be/m4jHGBmKj3c?si=Hx_lnUSNYSBrEyM0I wonder if anyone on ic even knows who this guy is anymore >>7170645I like feet and hands aesthetically but not as a sexual fetish, is there a word for that ?>>7171268 >>7171212Based
>>7171216I thought this was Kisuke from Bleach from the thumbnail
>>7170481how'd you get this good anon ?give detailed guide for begs pls ,love your choices in line and shading btw
>>7170481Oh man, is this teal bro ?
>>7171380Close call. Thanks for calling that outGonna upload once I'm done eating, I guess
all I do is refresh ic all day, research ways to learn drawing and painting, hoard courses and books (picrel), go on twitter and drool over artists I love seeing, refresh ic and lit again and then never actually draw. it's over for me
>>7171595forgot pic
>>7171595Retard. I skipped through all that reading and just eyeballed it.Don't care. No time to play around. I'll learn it on my own and contact it whenever I hit a roadblock or whateve
>>7171595drawing is for faggots, real niggas skip the line art process and throw down big blobs of color and then refine them into figures like a sculptorrather than a trillion books it just requires that you completely change the way you see the world
>>7171595>>7171596Ah yes, analysis paralysis combined with the paradox of choice. A classic /ic/ phenomenon.
>>7171599Absurd how true this is, lmao
>>7171595many such cases. only thing you can do is it to just do it. open dynamic sketching and do it motherfucker.
>>7171596fellows really allow themselves to get trapped like this rather than just do a single live study / master copy
I was trying to copy the style of an artist (ohuton H01a @nyr50ml on twitter) but I failed miserablythis looks like Adventure Time or something like that lol
Drawing daily until I stop being shit. Really dropped the ball this fucking time. I am fucking trash.Tonight's shitty doodle. I really need to grind faces really fucking hard and feet. I am utterly fucking baffled with how fucking hopeless I am with something as simple as fucking shoes/feet.Somebody said my faces are flat and featureless as shit like slapping a sticker on a shit lego. I agree and want to stop doing that.
>>7171319missing texture back makes my eyes bleed , nice girl
>>7171609maybe learn perspective (basic perspective for now) and start using simple 3d shapes to construct the human formuse boxes and cylinders, I know some people think that is like a meme for some reason, but it works, at least your characters are going to look 3d
>>7171609do figure drawing until you can easily put an ellipse in space for the rib cage and a box (or triangle thing) for the pelvis.
I just can't get into digital drawing, it fucking sucks major donkey balls>awkward pen grip>awkward drawing surface>have to learn the actual software and a billion shortcuts>have to adjust to pen sensitivity and different unnatural line qualities>eyes are burning because you have to stare intently on your screen the whole timeI genuinely don't get how you guys can do this every dayIt fucking sucks
>>7171625I'm gonna share a crazy secret with you, anon.You don't have to do it if you don't enjoy it. Neat, huh?
>>7171625digital sucks and is half the fun of learning real mediums. drawing really opens up when you start getting into rendering & color with ink/marker/paints.
>>7171627I'm completely aware, dear anonIts obviously just a rant on my side
>>7171268This is a much rougher sketch (and a much more challenging but fun pose.) but I was able to catch myself a bit more with drawing things out of perspective. However, I'm sure there's more mistakes that I'm blind too at 5AM that I'll be more conscious about after sleep.
>>7171625While it's definitely awkward at first, once you get into the rhythm of it it feels much easier to experiment with your sketches compared to traditional.Having one of these things makes it so you can easily adjust brush sizes with the wheel. Then only adding the shortcuts you actually use on these keys.When you don't have to open up any menus to quickly lasso something, transform mode, warp the size or shape of the selection it becomes really intuitive.That being said, that period when you're not comfortable with all this it does feel shitty trying to remember shortcuts or how to get whatever program to do what you want it to do.
>>7171625Either you get used to it, find solutions for the problems you have, or give up.>have to learn the actual software and a billion shortcutsYou only need to learn a few parts of the program as you go. Stop thinking that just because something is there, you need to learn it all at once.
I haven't drawn anything the whole weekend despite intending ti I should probably just quit for good(have been saying this for years, never actually did)
How do you do studies? Is it just trying to draw in a specific style?
>>7171625you sound like a little bitch
watercolor and brushes are difficult to use probably need to do at least a hundred more of these
I'm feeling overwhelmed with the options
today I draw booba
>>7171141 Cute>>7171151 Form was felt>>7171142 From henceforth I name him "trylsc anon.” He pops back in from time to time>>7171121 Excellent>>7171162 Hell yeah>>7171204 Nice forms>>7171212 Saved>>7171216 More mileage, copying plates>>7171228 soul GMI>>7171252 Still life / study other artists first>>7171257 Soul>>7171212 >>7171268 I will record these as my first encounters ever with the anon known as "OtakuMindy.” Truly a level to aspire to.>>7171319 Excellent>>7171360 More of these>>7171373 Looks good, draw other things too>>7171444 >>7171497 Forms are okay, let us keep drawing>>7171474 Nice>>7171490 The grind continues>>7171503 More mileage>>7171521 Not sure what just happened>>7171576 Cute>>7171608 Good lighting>>7171609 Just gotta keep at it>>7171636 Nice>>7171690 Soul>>7171716 Hell yeahI define mileage as years of: studies, accurately copying other artists, accurately copying Morpho/Loomis/Hampton/Bridgman/etc plates, drawing from memory / imagination, drawing random shit spontaneously, memory repetitions, drawing + overlaying the reference (as recommended by Japanese filename anon), conscious analysis and conscious fixing of mistake-patterns, because if you draw long enough you have to start noticing the same patterns, then it’s a matter of addressing them through repeating this vicious cycle for many hundreds of hours, many thousands of hours, before even the slightest improvement is even discernable ‒ and if you have no talent like me, you already know how much suffering you’re in for.
>when a permabeg thinks he knows what he's talking aboutso fucking funny to see
>>7170340Got a question about how objects rotate in perspective drawing. Pic related.Two of the vanishing points are below the canvas. Red arrows in pic point to them. The red circled prism is what I am trying to draw the skateboard to look like, but some of the planes are pointing away from the top vanishing point. The prism with the A, B, and C labels at the center of the canvas is where the skateboard should be. Do I have to make every line in 3-point perspective drawing align towards a vanishing point? If so, how do I achieve this downward rotated angle?I feel like I'm doing a math problem at this point.
>>7171690holy sovl
>>7170456>marielxLMFAOI remember this retarded faggot from 6 years ago shitting up /v/ermin fight club threads!Hahahahah!
>>7171747mass reply schizos are based because they're the only reason my posts ever get a single (you)
>>7171754>getting some inane gibberish from a mass-replying permabeg is somehow "based" to anonYou're a fucking loser
>>7171754You're legitimately retarded
help how do I draw boobs better, I feel like the upper body looks the worst out of it all. The boob shape seems just wrong, it's one of the parts I really don't want to get wrong.
I want to draw today
>>7171754I literally want to kill myself hen I get a worthless shit (You) from a mass replying subhuman
>>7171764solved :]
>>7171764The figure is turned slightly, but the boobs are doing their own thing it the oposire direction. Make up your mind.
>>7171762>>7171763i mog you
>>7171783You absolutely do not. Post your work bucko and I'll do the same.
>>7171795heh... nothin personell but its already here, its the one that made you shake in your boots when you scrolled by...
>>7171798Point it out.
>>7170755Bump
>>7171764
>>7171586>I wonder if anyone on ic even knows who this guy is anymoreI do, he inspired me to draw these cubes in the first place
So you guys have any cool prompts for a drawing? I'll take anything.
>>7171807A fencing match on a rickety rope bridge
>>7171811I can't even imagine that in my head.I'll try it but idk
I’m still not drawing. You’d just tell me I’m NGMI, anyway.
>>7171778not so fast
>>7171831:/
how did you learn to place features properly with loomis construction, feels like every artist that tries to teach it is just relying on intuition.The mouth in particular is fucking impossible to place correctly.
>>7171319>>7171594The pic is really nice anon but, there are subtle details that are easy to miss or confusing. Like she doesn't look like she's holding her weight with her arm at all, then I realized... oh right, she's holding to the bar with her legs, but, that's not either.. Is she supposed to be tied to the bar by that lace/rope?, that would be HOT, but I would like to see that being shown clearly, wraped tighter and maybe a couple of wrap arounds on the bar. Anyways it's a great pic already, congrats.
I want to draw something that isn't just practice study copy, but i've got no ideas whatsoever.Is that a sign of NGMIness or is that normal and you'll get more creative with mileage?
>>7171845did you ever read what mr Loomis himself has to say about it?
>>7171852i read the proportions page, but did you mean copy the plates?
>>7171851Lately I'm reading many comments like this, and I wonder if that's a thing happening with the new generations. The lack of creativity and motivation, they have no soul inside them it seems. I don't think it's their fault, but a result of a deliberate program by the global corporations. They created the perfect consumer, a numb blob, that doesn't think, just consume. It doesn't create, just consume. I'm so certain about it, and at the same time, I don't want that to be truth, I hope I'm just being paranoid.
>>7171858What did you produce?
First time drawing digitally. Still haven't gotten used to timed gesture drawing yet.
>>7171858I don't think it's the corporations but yea.I used to be way more creative when i was younger, i'd dream up Dragon Ball ocs in the class and it would bring me so much joy the teacher would ask me why the hell am i staring out into the space and grinning like an idiot.I think i cucked myself out of creativity by being very self-deprecative throughout my teenage years. I just assume that every nub of an idea is dumb and not really worth pursuing.Idk how to fix that. I have the desire to create but not much else.
>>7171860I have a normal job, fixing things. But that's not the topic, what I mean is that earlier generations had a motivation to draw shit, to create our own version of stuff out there. Whatever that could be. But today, right now, this generation is drowning in an ocean of content and their brains are starting to rot, they don't need anything, they don't feel the need to imagine something, to create something. There's no time, there's a never ending line of media content and products waiting for that little instant of a second for them to step up and fill that second in their brains. "They" are killing a whole generation's creative brain capacity. I'm not making a right or wrong judgement, but stating a fact, that IT IS happening.And the solution? maybe content needs to be curated, by parents and people in charge. A kid doesn't have to be bombarded by content 24/7/365, so parents "can do other stuff", or the kid to be "entertained" ALL THE TIME, they don't even sleep anymore with the damn screen-phone attached to their face.
>>7171883I'm asking this in good faith. Do you have any advice/solutions for a guy afflicted with the mindnumb lethargy?Shit sucks to tell you the truth
>>7171883Why do you think I'm asking about your job, "they" are all this things but you are not. so what is your art?
>>7171886dont feed the schizos
>>7171858>>7171851Why do people who don't want to draw anything want to learn to draw? I don't get the point.
>>7171881Well you're here for a reason. You want to be a creative entity, imagine things, put it them on paper, to see them materialized, from your brain to a physical form. To be shared by a community, and to feel that joy of creation. That essential thing is in there, you just have to find the way to express that, to make it happen, and have fun. There must be a dream project for you, there is one always for everyone.
>>7171891I'm one such anon. Honestly kinda hoping that if i increase my skills the ideas will come, since i'll be more experienced with the medium.I want to "be creative" and "make things" but it's not like you can force yourself to get an idea you're passionate about
>>7171764cute design
>>7171886I think that I answered that a little bit here >>7171892But I understand how hard it is today to find that "dream project", there's so much stuff available. Whatever you think about, it's already done or being done by someone. Maybe try to get involved in some collective project. Be part of something creative, you don't have to carry all the weight by yourself alone.
>>7171856feel like im missing out on a lot of subtleties of how the head curves when i draw these with construction and not line. Loomis is so fucking subtle in his construction its hard to internalize initially. Maybe this is good enough as a start idk.>>7171893just start writing down your dreams and going out more. you cant be 'inspired' by being in your room all the time. Make a sketchbook of industrial landscapes, natural landscapes, people, random objects etc.
>>7171887I post stuff here as many anons, For personal fun, and others. I have my issue resolved already. As long as I have two eyes, two hands and a tablet I'll die having a laugh drawing bullshit for fun. I create my own fun. A self-thinking creative entity. That's what it's being erased right now. Look at that AI monstrosity, what do you think that shit will do to people's creative brain? It's a brain killing machine.
>>7171874Keep at it>>7171898Nice>>7171904I think memorizing the construction makes it easier to freestyle from line later on
Damn bro where the fuck do you get your apples?
>>7171913This is what apples looked like in 19 century before Steve Jobs ruined them. Now everything needs to be smooth, and your brain becomes smooth. o tempora! o mores
Is it believable? Is it appealing? Is it coomable?
>>7171917Yeah big juicy maggots were a rich protein source, we live in a world of faggots today "muh apple needz to be round and clean, no bugs pleazeee"
>>7171921head/neck bothers me, and the tiny hands too.
First time actually sitting down and drawing the back anatomy. How'd I do?
>>7171893I'm not sure to what extent creativity is a trainable skill and to what extent it's a personality trait, it's definetly a bit of both though. Creative kids aren't usually scribbling super interesting shit, but just "knight from a video game fighting" or whatever, and as they develop their skills they become capable of more and more nuanced creativity. Creativity grows as your visial library grows, and as your skill at lateral thinking grows.I think if you wanna become a gmi you need an an autistic hyperfixation on something. Even if you get good, if you're uncreativie, you'll just be a fan artist pornographer, and that's assuming you can draw enough to get good without the power of a hyperfixation forcing you to.So figure out what it is you like. There's stuff I have to draw or I die, and so much o f it I'll never finish it all, because I know what it is I like, what my autistic hyperfixation is.
Timelapse >>7171612>>7171624Man, am I really that fucking bad I need to go back to the very very most basic things? Jesus.>>7171729Noted
>>7171982You lack method. Look at your time lapse, you started with the head, okay fine, then you continue right into some fucking useless dress frills without having anything else down on the page to guide you??? followed by a cascade of corrections, stumbling through the drawing.
>>7171921Potential coomability is off the charts anon. Keep at it. A great future awaits you.
>>7171729You have a massive issue of proportions here. The head is way too big
>>7171982>>7171996I agree with anon that you seem to know what you're doing but get lost before you make a full commitment to your drawing. If your sketching a full body you should sketch the full body and proportions before going into the smaller details. You're not bad anon, just change your process and keep learning
>>7172004>issue of proportions herealways
>>7171941bump
Drew the woman while she was cooking pancakes
>>7171941if that your first time drawing that, then you're gonna be advanced in no time. Keep drawing anon.
>>7172011your proportions are egregiously worse than everyone else's
>>7172086It wasn't a confession but a fix.Not "here" but "always".I'm not himUnless you are aware of it and really somehow mean me
finished now>>7171729thank you!
>>7171891I just want to learn so i can draw what i want instead of seeing the giant failure it comes out. People say draw whatever for fun but im not sure if you really learn by doing that
>>7171521I was not expecting to see a reference to Dino Buzzati. That in and of itself is absolute kino
I WILL draw today
>>7172124NGMI
>>7171212Can you give feedback on this? I think my drawings tend to be too meshed together
How can I make her eye more appealing
>>7172180draw an eye instead of a triangle with a pupil
>>7172188how?
>>7171928>handsYeah they suck, I didn't study them at all yet and I will invest time into grinding hands soon.>head/neckCould you elaborate?I guess one thing I notice now is that viewer shouldn't be able to see this much of the top plane of the head.>>7171997Thanks! Good redraw tho
>>7172167But how you make it?
>>7172180As another anon suggested, try not to symbol draw with a triangle and a pupil. Look up references of seductive eyes and try to recreate that with your own interpretation. Find what makes eyes appealing to you and apply them here. For me, I'd find it more appealing with a more half open at rest seductive gaze than what you have now.Also, I know you didn't ask for advice on it but the breasts are bothering me. They're far too spherical and round. Breasts are like water balloons full of sand, they should droop down especially from the weight of they're large. Boobs are almost never going to be perfect circles. The bottom of the breasts should be wider than the top as they're being pushed up by her arm so a good amount of the boob fat as it were is going to be resting against the arm with the top of the breast tapering off on the top. Think a tear drop shape.
>>7172174Wow, what's with furries and raw talent always merging together?
>>7172193just look at an eye and draw what it looks like, if you want to stylize it, look at a style you like and copy thatideally do both. learn what an eye looks like and the actual structure of it looks like, then see how you favourite artist translates that into a drawing.I feel your face is weak but I actually really like the rest of the drawing, anyway heres my sketch of the day someone pls critique
>>7172225Not getting to disheartened.FundiesPrimary and secondarySome of them are very boring. But as you learn, better stuff comes outAs better stuff comes out, you will start to like your stuff more and will want to make moar stuff thats betterer then before.
>>7172252>>7172253stop replying to howies, they aren't genuinely asking for help
>>7171212'preciate you mindy, thank you for your efforts/instructions/advice
>>7172276pyw nigga
>>7172310Sure give me something to draw
>>7172180>>7172313redraw this since youre calling me a howie, fag
>>7172316Ah shit, you actually drew something instead of asking how without posting work, my bad anon. That's on me for not reading.hope you take this token of goodwill, also for the eye it's hard to make it appealing since it's kinda covered in shadow, for that I would have to increase the size/resolution in order to add more detail.
heres a more recent drawing I did>>7170503oh sorry my bad >>7170445thank you yes
>>7172276Why is this community literally the only one that goes like that?>hey i wanna learn how to play the flute>duuude just play it>but how it works?>don't ask dude just play the flute man
>>7172355This is a comparison so retarded that only someone who neither draws nor plays music could have come up with it.
>>7172356A lot of times i've seen people here asking for advice on a book or task and you niggers either don't answer or just say "howie" without even responding to the question. So yeah it is like that.
>>7172355The real problem is there's a lot of people who ask stupid short questions so they deserve no answer, or short simple answers.What you give is what you get. Imagine asking a programmer, "How do I program" what do you mean how? What do you want to program? What's the purpose of the software? who's the target audience? Do you have any references for code other people have used that would work well for what you're trying to accomplish?When you get down to it, howies are either just trolling and don't actually want answers or they are genuinely too stupid to do any of the legwork to ACTUALLY ask proper specific questions.So because of this people just jump the gun and lose any good faith for the 1% of people who are genuinely asking (No need to assume they are good faith unless they actually post work and make an effort)
>>7172355howard nodraws' dont deserve help because half the time their posts are a rant about xyz mental illness and anhedonia and even permabegs mog them by nature of actually creating things
>>7172402New thread>>7172402
>>7171891To cope with failure To kill timeTo fight anxietyOut of nostalgiaOut of despair
>>7170697Ragdollussy, unwise acting, me, got
>>7172071nice man, i like it. i bet she loved it too. going off on a tangent, the idea of drawing one's lover, sounds so nice. that's how one sees her, and it's enough to melt her heart, and fall in love all over again
