>MOOOOOOM THEY'RE VUHLEDARING AGAINA thread on recent Russian vehicle losses at Vuhledar
Some BTRs in the next few posts
Is turtle tank is undefeated?
BTR and bonus BMP
>>61559392Oh my god, I just got an erectionIs it another zombie "155th" doing this attack, or a different unit?
Endangered MT-LBs also made an appearance
>>61559447>Upgrading Russian tanks to ISIS-spec is successI don't know how much more losing the collective Wect can handle anon
>>61559392Nice, but why there's no bodies in those photos?Are you sure these aren't old?
>>61559392I really like the C&C (1) like aesthetic of destroyed tanks. And it looks even better.
>vatnik seething impotently in every thread for hours>still giving himself (you)sThis ailed attack, and the loss of another S-300/400 battery in Crimea is bad, but not THAT bad.I'm starting to assume that protest in Georgia is going full color revolution on these snow niggers.
>>61559440>MT-LBs>EndangeredI thought that was the one the Soviets made 75 gorillion of and that the BMP was what they were running out of?
>>61559435*gets fired by CHADman for acting like a retard*
>>61559476posted a few hours ago by the UKR 58th BrigadeAttack allegedly conducted by RU 5th Tank Brigade, 37th Motorised brigade and 40th Marine brigade.>no bodieshigh visibility vatnik meat-piles generally only occur for dismounts riding on top, or dismounts exiting. These either died "inside", or ran off after the tracks were disabled.
>>61559509they seem to be getting short on MTLB now. hence the golf carts for troop transport on the front lines
>>61559515Sometimes bodies and pieces of bodies get flung out when they detonate.
>>61559480>I'm starting to assume that protest in Georgia is going full color revolution on these snow niggers.If anything is surprising that the whole stans + georgia/belarus aren't in full color revolution after seeing russia burning its whole softpower and influence in less than 2 years
>>61559447>making something we were all laughing at in the context of sandnigger wars>success
>>61559505>Hope the three-legged heckin doggo gets shothow rare. I actually have no idea what this schizoid is saying.Can anyone who speaks snow nigger explain this
>>61559547I know Vuhledar is a timeloop, but this isn't from winter 2022.Or winter 2023.
>>61559551The three legged doggo is in the ass. Everything is understood.
>>61559476>>61559515I don't believe you, fresh defeated attacks leave plenty of bodies.This is false flag chuggery
>>61559547>freshly charred and upturned dirt without green growth on ityeah no this is fresh, the old vuhledar stuff (picrel) happened in the winter. sorry to rain on your cope parade tho
>>61559551You mention georgia but aren't watching the protests? https://twitter.com/CivilGe/status/1786445939030237592
Fin
Sauce btw: https://nitter.poast.org/OSINTua/status/1786794104728261014
>>61559575the set they posted has tanks still burningso unless you're saying this has been burning for months (years?), or the video is old and has NEVER been posted before, it is recentHey, if you can find it as a re-post of something from 2023/2022, go ahead.
>>61559596Vatnigger, nobody except the dumbest of redditors is biting
>>61559629Russian fuel is so potent and energy-dense it can burn for decades. Clearly old footage from last year.
>>61559575It's also been posted by NOEL reports, who, aside from the occasional slip-up that he corrects when proven wrong, has been very consistently trustworthy
>>61559597I'm watching for the blocking and breaching of government buildings. Stuff like the dog and the ghost of kiev aren't very interesting, or of material consequence. Vatniks tend to hyper-fixate on them as they're counter-propaganda pieces, and that sticks in their ass good and hard for some reason I guess?Never really understood that.
>>61559505You are really subhuman.
>>61559614kek, I hope there is a vid of this one getting stuck in that little stream or whatever it is. Zigger vehicles falling into water always cracks me up.
>>61559708So why the fuck is the government trying to pass the foreign agents law when everyone said that it's a really fucking bad idea?
>>61559515>high visibility vatnik meat-piles generally only occur for dismounts riding on top, or dismounts exiting.So what's with all the IFVs, were they empty or what?
>>61559778or they never exited, or they did but after a mundane de-trac and hence weren't immediately incinerated around the vehicle wreck Russia aren't particularly smart, but they don't stick around an immobile vehicle to die unless they're already dying
oohh, so this is all that winning i'm reading about. good job russia, keep it up.
oh, and sometimes they do stick around but dig under the wreak for coverthese shots don't show that very well, so there could be body piles below, too
>>61559762Water is great armor, moreover it's usually the lowest point in the terrain and follows a natural channel that can provide you some cover and a potential route of escape. If I was a Russian tank driver I'd drive down into the first stream I see.
>>61559834Honestly if I was a Russian soldier that would be my hiding spot. >burned out tank won't draw fire but still is useful as armor>pack earth into front and back of tank so Ukies can't fly drones under>dig foxhole under tank so shrapnel doesn't get meAs long as you had food and weren't bothered by the fact that your co-workers remains are right above/beside you it would be pretty comfy
>>61559886>claims old>doesn't post proofslop-slurping snow nigger
>>61559586Is that a motorbike? I think it is. Since Mad Vats are a recent development, this looks like legit a recent attack
>>61559392Does any one know if the oryx list is still be updated? I was wondering if some of the russian losses got added or how come the moscow leopard and abrams weren't marked as captured or destroyed?
>>61559909motor bikes WITH PALLETS, anontruly, Ukraine is finished
>>61559922I think they just have a multi-thousand vehicle backlog to get through.
>>61559951They were pretty good with the western ones. Just surprised the leopard and abrams didn't get marked or if there was some controversy etc I wasn't aware of.
>>61559392hahah NOT LIKE THIS RUSSIA BROS lol
>>61559398interesting, a cope cube
>>61560011lmfao
>>61560011Kek
>>61559897"You can't really troll pol. It's pajeets, pakis, chinks and vatniks.Half pretend to be white the other half pretends to be some other thirdie.It's a giant ocean of piss with thirdies swimming in it. No one is white there. Tv is the same way. Int outside of the gens is the same way. Sci is just bad now. His is ruined. Sp outside of gens is almost all those 4. Really k is the only board left not flooded with those 4. White people like me have left. I just come here for war porn then go somewhere that requires an email a western ip and phone number to post. The boards are much better once you get rid of those 4. Everyone is much nicer."
>>61559933Goddammit, Sergay! That's not what we meant when we said pallets make transportation easier.
>>61560011motherfuckers, they destroyed the meat cube harvester.
42% losses before they reach Vuhledar killbox
>>61560130power source of the biomechanical drive
>>61559447yeah, puccia success in winning the darwin awards
>>61559777Because Putin installed a pro russian government after 2008.
>>61560195Another 1,000 dead to capture another dead shithole village with 6 pensioners
>>61559708>Vatniks tend to hyper-fixate on them as they're counter-propaganda pieces>that sticks in their ass good and hard for some reason I guess?Because it's what they perceive not only as *their* domain, but as a domain of significantly more importance to warfare than it really is or ever has been. "Organic" propaganda that has the potential to go farther than their own really, really, *really* pisses them the fuck off.See NAFOfellas and "russian warship, go fuck yourself" and the vatnoid conniptions over each for examples.
>>61560106/v/ has at least one vatnik mod that bans you the moment you make fun of the mongoloids. case in point a stalker 2 bread>one zigger posting blatant RT staged clips about ukranians forcefully being mobilized by HOMO type meatheads>stays up for days>i mock them pointing out how stalker 2 devs decided to remove all vatnik speak from the game after another failed bombing run one of the missile wrecks landed less then a block away from their offices leaving a crater. Stalker 2 would be purely ukranian>insta ban
>>61560195What blew up in Russia? The reverse-uno vatnig has been going non-stop lately.
>>61560247You seem upset lmao
>>61560260>jewish warI thought it was the ukronazi war?
>>61559422Yeah, they sure are losing the Lose your army and destroy your own country speedrun challenge to Russia. And it ain't even close.
>>61559392How recent was the last assault
>>61559447>>61559458>successLMAOAlso, stop samefagging, schizo.
Doesn't matter, Abrahams in Moscow!
>>61560195How come ziggers can only say what people say about them in reverse, there's not been any original memes from the Z side since buhaka chan
>>61560247>scuttled >unknown technology blyat
>>61560247Here's a russia tank tactically heating its crew, I guess?
>>61559480Nah, everytime Crimeia or inside Russia gets hit we get raided. Also Russian AD was always a propaganda weapon so they also react to hits on those hard. It's just that the actual shills don't work on the weekends so right now we just get the /pol/ and /int/ socialists who do it for free.
>>61560289pretty sure this video exists in way better quality
>>61560282Because thirdies only fellate. They simply can't innovate.
>>61559392Russian soldiers should be rehabilitated, not killed or maimed.
>>61560260seethe zigger. vatnik copeganda narratives are hilariously transparent for anybody who knows shit about how your cockroaches behave and think. Case in point your obsession over DA JOOS. its blatant projection on how you would behave in the same position. thank god even the incredibly gullible westoids are slowly coming to around figuring out the WW2 germans were at least correct in one of their policy stances
>>61560253Crimeia got blown up today. Again.
>Oh wow, good news, I thought Ukraine was getting they shit pushed in...
>>61560305>>61560289
>>61560352Ukraine is currently in a fighting retreat on some parts in the east. Russian artillery outgun them 18-1 so they abandoned some villages. But the Russians are taking severe losses on the way and the new weapon supply coming in soon their losses will just continue to mount
>>61560411Is this bait or are you actually asking? Also if Russia is winning then why are you seething so hard?
>>61560411Putin did.
>>61560265I bet this was a fun ride for a good 10 seconds
>>61560486>Ukraine is entirely out of steam, I'm afraidyou mean out of international support or out of people? neither is happening ivan, not ever.
>>61560486>I'm not trying to concern troll or anythingzigger shills are easy to spot because they are always literally in the middle of doing what they tell you they aren't doing
>>61559392Jesus Christ how many times have they attempted an offensive in this area, they already tried a bum rush a month or two ago with similiar results
>>61560486>I'm not trying to concern troll or anythingYes you are and we're not buying your snake oil.
>>61560550harass your local politician into giving ukraine more boolets then
>>61560529“I’m an American”Proceeds to vomit every vatnik buzzword imaginable
>>61560592>if Russia had done a full scale armored invasion of the Jewkrainethey did already>Was sending 10% of their force a mistake?Russia doesn't have the logistical capability nor competence to sustain anything above that for any meaningful amount of time. Remember the 40 mile convoy to kiev that was supposed to wreck the city?
>>61560622No you don't understand, Kyiv was a feint, so it doesn't count, and they didn't want Kherson anyway, so that doesn't count either.
>>61560260>t.
>>61560550less of an issue than you'd think.The bulk of the spending bills in 2022/2023, and also the one recently, were not of "immediate aid". They contained immediate aid by draw-downs from our existing stockpiles, but the vast majority of the bills were for long-term contracts and generation of new arms on terms that would take years to mature. Money spent in 2022 won't materialize into real deliveries until late 2024, and 2023 onto 2025/2026, and so on. Our support and deliveries into Ukraine will likely last until the early-2030s, as things currently stand.>so why were they without stuff for 6 months????dead air, little short-term support remained and even less under long-term contracts had matured yet. Should be less of an issue going forward, assuming China doesn't start to directly send tanks/missiles to Russia or something like that.That isn't to say Ukraine is in a 'good' position, because they aren't, but the prior 6 months of universal shortages along the full line of contact shouldn't occur again either.
>>61560592Sending all their elite units like the VDV and 1st guard tank army into a meat grinder in the beginning of the war was a terribly idiotic decision and now they're just coping by throwing even more soldiers into the grind with little to no results.
>>61560410They know exactly why they're there: rubles. For every poor widdle Russian conscript there are a hundred who joined for the money and the chance to rape and pillage.
>>61560651xaxaxaxaxa HATO cannot comprehend superior Russian tactics. Thousands of men/vehicles and 40% of the state's budget is a bargain price for taking 20 shithole Eastern European towns every year.
>>61560486>Quantity become its own quality at some point.Well said. We are 4 months from witnessing mosinchuckers charging at Bradleys.
>>61560705>we didn't want Ukraine anywayBut you did.
>>61560715The real Alex Jones
>>61560715>>61560639
>>61560705Bait or retard, I can't tell anymore.>i think russia is trying to bait us into another vietnam basicallyYou don't win proxy wars by being the side directly involved. The US "lost" Vietnam and Korea the moment they stepped in, and Russia "lost" this war as soon as they didn't take Kiev in two months.
>>61560410Nah, they're invaders. They die as they should. If enough invaders die, nobody will invade and we will have a happier world.
>>61560774> they secured what they wanted which was crimea and odessa>and odessaHey retard have you looked at a map of who controls Odesa recently, cuz it sure ain’t Russia and never has been. The ziggers can’t even stop Ukrainian grain shipments coming from the port of Odesa. And to just add to the humor the ziggers can’t even use the naval installations they have in Crimea
>>61560705>they could have won the entire country of ukranian territory easily in a day if that had been their objective.That was literally the goal though. They were just too retarded to realize they'd actually put up a fight and failed to get support when their "allies" realized how badly they miscalculated the situation
>>61560792> the ethnic russian zones of the east because those are easy to occupy since the population is benevolent to themYou do realize that those “easy” regions have still not fallen under complete Russian control despite several years or war and that “ethnic” Russians enlisted in the Ukraine military in droves after the invasion started.
>>615594223 days...
>>61560774>>61560792I agree with your assessment that Russia is focused on the Russian speaking and ethnic populations of the East. However I do not get their desire (and the Ukrainians') to continue the war even though no major territorial gains/losses have occurred since the Kherson/Izyum counteroffensive in November 2022. I would have called the invasion a fair success if Russia ended offensive operations in the first few months, taking fairly light casualties, most of the ethnic Russian Donbass, and having established a land bridge to Crimea. They could've used Kherson as a bargaining chip, giving it back in return for a ceasefire. The losses in men and material in recent times just don't match the minimal changes in the frontline.
>>61560823That's also the most dangerous aspect of communist strategy. They displaced the native population and replaced them with Russians so the area would be easier to control because there's no ethnic homogeneity anymore. Creating ethnic tension makes the population easier to control
lmfao damn did the mods ban him?What did he say?
>>61560863like what is happening in the eu and US in the last 60 years
>>61560900You mean >>61560792 ?He said:>so far their strategy seems to be only occupying areas of ethnic russians in ukraine because they probably dont want to deal with a vietnam style conflict as you describe being the occupying force in a NATO globalist euro zone like kiev where most of the ukranians are nationalistic and see themselves as westerners. russia seems to only be interested in taking in the ethnic russian zones of the east because those are easy to occupy since the population is benevolent to them.And then there is >>61560774>they didnt though, they secured what they wanted which was crimea and odessa which are important trade and shipping areas for them. im not syaing it didnt come at cost for them but their goal doesnt seem to be taking kiev. they are specifically trying to avoid what you are describing i think the last thing they want to do is be the occupying force of a guerilla war. they know thats unwinnable.
>>61560914>US>Ethnic homogeneity>EverAnon... I don't know how to break it to you...
>>61560936I assume he meant the creating ethnic tension to make the population easier to control bit.
>>61560863Christ, you sound like a fucking idiot, you have zero understanding of Ukrainian ethnography or how Russification impacted Ukraine’s language patterns. Just because Russia calls people “ethnic Russians” doesn’t mean those people view themselves as so and will act accordingly with the desires of the Russian state. Ethnicity is extremely subjective as it’s based on multiple cultural factors and shared beliefs more than strict genetic heritage or solely on the language spoken. A Russian speaking Ukrainian born in Kharkiv would punch you in the face if you called him an ethnic Russia.
>>61560965>it was literally homogenously white until 20 years ago faggot lying kikeSure Vlad, sure.
>>61560953So that's why they replaced the estonians by sending them to siberia and ukrainians to the kuril islands and send ethnic russians to replace them?
>>61560986Tell me you've never stepped foot in one major US city without telling me.Wait.
who learns slower, the actual russian army or the shill army
>>61560996Thanks for the... Ireland content? Are you lost Anon?
>Thread about ziggers trying to storm Vuhledar>Suddenly, seething about kikesVery organic, we will have to replace the airman responsible for following your activities since his feefees are starting to hurt from your vocabulary.
>>61561032What do fucktards in Ireland have to do with US history, Anon?
Why did they all get blown up?? Don't they know that they captured Abruhams? NAFO tranny HATO? Roasted piggers?
But whyyy it was a cool thread before it devolved into /pol/shitteryCan't you fucks go talk about that nonsense somewhere else??
>>61560993What is an “ethnic Russian”? Because it’s not a racial category, and if it’s based solely on some culturally immutable loyalty to Russia than how come millions of “ethnic Russians” have refused to betray the Ukrainian nation and join with Russia? I’ll tell you why. An “ethnic Russian” is whatever the Russian state needs it to be in order to justify its revanchist claims, doesn’t matter if the people they’re calling “ethnic Russians” actually view themselves as Russian. An ethnicity is subjective, that Russian leadership during USSR times tried to squash other identities homogenous Russian culture doesn’t change the fact that those who they call “ethnic Russians” in the territories they hoped to assimilate may not view this label in the best light.
>>61561064I fell for the bait.I'll do better.
>>61561076you seem to be acknowledging ukraine's existence, contrary to russian doctrine
Looks like a lot of Russian trannies finally got the ball snipping they desired.
>>61561076No but russia is winning in 2 more weeksagain.
>>61561075Still not sure why you went off on a potato tangent.
>>61561076All russian losses lately have been due to unfortunate friendly fire incidents or accidents. It's unthinkable that ukraine could possibly defeat the glorious russian army.
>>61561002The US is very blatantly Angelo in orgin and blood.
>>61561112Again, I'm still not sure what the flying fuck that has to do with the modern Irish.You do you Anon.
Can you two faggots get a room please
It's crazy how much stuff Russia is losing. How much do they have left? They are empty within 2 years right? How much are they making? So many questions
>>61561130>my lackLol.Lmao.>>61561139Really wish they'd turn on country flags here so you faggots could seethe and schizo post more.
>>61559498homie was about to blast a drone out of the sky with a 155>>61559507
>>61561155>A country specifically founded by and for European settlers has always full of niggersNo.
>>61561149The biggest problem they have to replace tanks and IFVs is their inability to produce optics and electronics. They relied on imports from Germany and France that are now cut off so their production rate is extremely slow right now.
>>61560731
>>61561175This is what Puccia has to resort to for "optics" on their tanks now. Yes, they nigger rigged an AliExpress camera to this T-55.
>>61561200the yellow menace always seems to be humiliating russia
>>61561215>He´s still assblasted by normalfag twitter memes
>>615612152 more weeks and Ukraine will surrender.
>>61559412There is no such thing as "turtle tank".Say what you mean and don't hide yourself.
>>61561215I'm sure he did.I always trust random screenshots.
>>61561023>whiteWhat "white"? WASPs? Irish? Germans? Italians? Stuck-up New England fops? Appallachian hillbillies? Motherfucker, there's more differnet e kidns of "white" people here than there's freakin' Injun tribes.
>>61561263two more weeks?
>>61561130>Daily Fail
>>61561215>SkibitskyLMAO
>>61561263Which requries an account ,bet you hoped nobody would actually click on it?
>>61559398The Cube Mount
>>61561262White = european, you disingenuous retard
>>61559507I got it. It reminds me of raider power armor cages.
>>61561215more like skibitsky toilet
>>61561263Shibitsky is a fucking retard.No idea why he wasn't removed yet.He even buys into the NATO won't do anything narrative.>Shibitsky:The Russians will take the Baltics in seven days. NATO’s reaction time is ten days."
>>61559526did they fall into the crater or did they get fucked by whatever made that crater, cool picture either way. does anyone have the bradley saving the soldier that posted a week or so ago? i forgot to save it.
>>61561111except for that time it was highly german until ww1or the dutch populations (new york was called new amsterdam)and irish literally predate the anglos on their own island so that's wrongoh and the french, they still even speak that some states hereyeah all white people in the us sure are anglo uh huh
>>61560242the kherson sand dunes are such a kino location. Hope ukranians eventually reclaim them after vatnisktan implodes again after their yet again inevitable failed empire experiment
>>61561171>Roanoke colony founded: 1585>First African slaves arrive in Virginia: 1619
>>61559392The national colors on the bore extractor are kinda nice, otherwise those field mods are fucking hideous. These cages have ruined armored aethetics.
>>61560313the only cure for being a r*ussian is a bullet applied directly to the forehead.
>>61560486You know nothing about war lmao
>>61560242>/v/ has at least one vatnik mod that bans you the moment you make fun of the mongoloidsNah, it's just mass reporting.
>>61561931Wrong.
>>61560337That seems to happen a lot. Have they considered not exploding?
>>61562455What they need to do is listen. Because that's what no one else did.
>>61560237Hey, those 6 pensioners never miss an election day. Gotta make sure they vote for Putin.
>>61560265SCHLOPSCHLOPSCHLOPSCHLOP
>>61560282They barely speak English, most of the shit they spam is copypasted from a script.
>>61560410They're all contract soldiers, don't fucking start with your shit.
How much is that nip piece of shit getting from the glavset to let their roosters run rampant, I wonder? He even removed the IP count so they could run amok.
>>61559392A promising sign, If the Russians are still pushing vulehdar then that means they still do not have a reliable rail connection to the isolated units on the landbridgeThe fact that we are seeing armoured vehicles here that have all but vanished from the rest of the front is particularly telling when it comes to assessing how important this push is to the Russians
>>61560861>If there is no territorial change, there is no reason to defend yourself!You're a fucking idiot, shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.
>>61559392what in the flying fuck did that?did they drop thermite or something?
>>61562197They look like they have really hairy pussies.
>>61559975They were listed back when they were actually destroyed. Relisting them now would create duplicate entries
>>61559392so are these just shots for target practice? I don't see any gore. These are just targets on a field, there is nobody in them and they've been sitting there rusting for decades.I can otherwise account for the deterioration of the vehicles. Also the footage is low rez and very grainy, its hard to make out anything.
>>61562617Have the been on fire for decades as well you fucking retard?
>>61562559the IP counter is a tool against amateur samefagging, that's all. getting hundreds of SIM cards and the gear to be able to switch between them isn't expensive, there's your samefagging with different IPs.
>>61562633then you tell me. what is it?
>>61562678No they're not. Fuck you to death, I hope to see you starring in a drone video soon.
>>61562647SPAYS LAZERS
>>61562696I think thats whats wrong with my brain. It doesn't really understand Occam's Razor. I mean it does, it just.. chooses not to apply it to most circumstances.
>>61562633So how is the wire frame still intact but the plates non-existent? You telling me it somehow burned through 8 inches of plated steel? Or that a 6 ton top plate just went sailing through the air like it was a feather caught in the wind?
>less than 300 orcs die in some random "mechanized" pushI sleep. this is boring now
>>61562727maybe its just a propaganda film, like they went to an old rusted out depot and staged it by pouring some gasoline on it.
>>61559575>Still exploding into toilet paper.War, war never changes.
>>61562771... holy shit, it's the footwraps, isn't it?
>>61559392some of the canopys are kind of neat
>>61562197>soon to be childless babushka after every puccian man is burned to ash in donetsk.>or turned into gutter oil by changsalso, ai niggers will be executed first
>>61561409The German thing has always been overblown and genetics prove that
>>61562617You dumb faggot. Steel rusts extremely fast after the paint gets burned off and it loses its heat treatment from a fuel/munitions fire.
>>61562779Russians are like party poppers, you yank on them hard enough and its just confetti, streamers and bacon
>>61559440Oh what a treat, its the mad-maxed version with larger troop compartment
>>61560173That one is honestly one of the orkiest things I have seen this warThe scale modeling is going to be wild.
>>61559480>GeorgiaIt's incredible how it 1:1 plays like Ukraine. You even have Russian glowies going against the protests with the police having orders to do nothing. Expect green military men with no insigna to ''liberate'' oppressed Russian minorities in the coming months.And the world just watches.Well, unfortunately, Georgia is too far away and isolated for actual help. Just watch Putin launch a special military operation there (and likely succeed this time) to make people look away from his blunder in Ukraine and use this victory for propaganda in Russia and for the retarded 5th columnists plaguing our democracies.It makes me fucking mad.
>>61559535soviets built over 10000 mt-lbthey arent running out of them yet
>>61561576Don't forget about the Greeks, Bulgarians, the fucking Sami and especially the fucking gypsies.
>>61564781in what condition do you think they were keptthey ran out of the good ones, now they have to cannibalize parts on several to make one run at all, same with bmps
>>61564781They absolutely are
Okay someone explain this to me. Russia holds a good chunk of Eastern Ukraine right now including a land bridge to Crimea (which seems to have been their primary goal after failing to reach Kiev and retreating from Kherson) so why are they attacking? Why not dig in and create the Slav Maginot Line across Eastern Ukraine and try to build up an air defense network and wait out the Ukrainians? The Russian military may have proven itself to be a shadow of what it presented itself to be but it still has a numerical advantage which would be a significant benefit in static defensive warfare. What do they gain from attacking besides a few more miles of farmland which Russia already has in spades? Literally what is the goal?
>>61564781Autismos counting them (empowered by satellite imagery) seem to believe otherwise
>>61564983Because in their mind if you aren't winning you are losing and winning means you are taking more territory. As succh not taking territory = losing.
>>61564983Their goal is to seize all of the Donbas and the rest of the "annexed" areas. When this happens (which it won't), they'll probably go into more of a defensive position.
>>61564983Same as always. Banan.
>>61564983You know what I would do?
>>61564983>Literally what is the goal?more like "Where is the goal!"
>>61559392>Russia is running out of hardware Well explain this liberals
>>61564983Until all of the Donbas is controlled, Putin is afraid to say "mission accomplished." The Kyiv debacle, all the territory they lost in the north and Kherson will be memory holed. He will say that securing Donetsk and Luhansk was always the goal and nobody will mention the fact that a fuck ton of their residents were sacrificed to make it possible. Russia's attempts to exploit any resources in the area will probably be harassed by Ukrainian artillery for years to come. Meanwhile the Ukies will get lots of gibs from the west so they can rebuild, at the cost of being (((indebted))).
>>61560936US Anglo population before 1960 was above 70%. U.S. demographics have changed so rapidly, it would classified as a civilizational collapse if it wasn't such a politically charged subject
>>61565012>they'll probably go into more of a defensive position Why do you believe this? It would have been wiser to "go more defensive" for almost two years now, but russia could not stop itself from wasting troops and vehicles in doomed offensives and suicide attacks.
>>61564781I have begun wondering what is the source for the amount of vehicles allegedly built by Soviets and who has verified them.
>>61564781Nobody really know what number of anything they have in storage working or not, not EVEN the Russians do, their local administration networks and bureaucracy is such a corrupted clusterfuck as much as the soviet one was. No data is truely reliable they very well could have an additional 5000 stashed somewhere in bumfuck nowhere they don't know about or think they have it when it fact it was never even ordered for construction.
>>61565070>>61565070>the states of Ukraine and Russia can both survive this warlollamo evenwhen is this analysis from, 2022?Someone has to die. Things are too far gone for that not to be the case. Both the Russian Federation and EU/US stand to lose their legitimacy if that doesn't happen, which will only cascade into other, larger, conflicts immediately. Not going to happen. You don't let a nuclear power annex their neighbors and get away with it, and you also don't allow your rival nuclear powers to provide conventional aid to your annex-target which allows them to kill half a million of your soldiers and get away with it.Somebody has to die.>oh don't worry the masses are cattle and jews control the media and blah blah blahdon't you dare pull that nu-/pol/slop cop-out. Russians and Ukrainians have committed to this as an existential war. If they didn't want it to be so, then they've had years to make it so. Neither has, and neither will, and nothing short of complete internal collapse will change either.
>>61565623it's not even as bad as the Korean War
>>61560313need to see a movie based on this storyboard
>>61564983The whole war is retarded. They should have just built a desalination plant at Crimea to deal with the lack of water at the peninsula and called it a day. The Ukrainian gas reserves are all within Russian cruise missile distance, they could have cockblocked them forever without going into full scale war, for a few orders of magnitude less money than the cost of this nonsense.
>>61566483>Trump is going to stop supporting Ukraine becuse... HE JUST IS, OKAY?! Politics stops at the waterline, bud. Trump is not the radical outsider people pretended he was.
>>61560433Thank you, anon.
>>61561409>Be nation started by Anglos>Be a nation overwhelmingly characterized by Anglo mouth noises (English)>An Anglo nation, if you will.>Complain that (You) aren't Anglo so it's not trueWhy are children like this?
>>61561576Millenial and zoomer natsocs/WN wannabes unironically have zero historical literacy. They have no clue what a WASP is, let alone how WASPs weren't exactly inclusive of anyone who wasn't WASP. Poles (Polaks), Irish (Flat-Foot Micks), Italians (Greaseball WOPs), even Scandis (Square-Heads) were seen as un-white as a basketball-American or chink railroad worker only until the last few decades.
>>61565793>it's not even as bad as the Korean WarYes? That's the fucking problem. The world wasn't being lead by utter invalids like Putin, Xi, and Biden in the 1950's, nor was nuclear proliferation a weekend away for every single even-below-middle-income nation. Somewhat has to die, otherwise there is no stopping a fully nuclear Mid-East, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, and Indo-China/Pacific that have first strike policies.What is the point of conventional deterrents and alliances if a nuclear power can "just win"?, and what is the point of being a nuclear power if your opponents can willfully cripple you for generations by drip feeding your neighbors support? Nope. Nuclear weapons and a liberal first strike policy is the only rational conclusion that remains. We might ALREADY be too late to avoid that at this point, given how absolutely anemic this has been handled. And that's because most counties are in denial regarding the situation and still looking for an "off ramp". USA is, Germany is, China is, etrc. Only the French, who are a bit ahead of the curve, see the writing on the wall.And when the French are the only ones who see the problem you're well and truly fucked.
>>61566498What do you mean "the people who brought him out"? America has free and fair elections, remember? The 2020 electionnwqs the most free and fair election in US history and you're legally not allowed to say otherwise. You're not doubting the security of elections, are you? That's election denial and election denial is a threat to our democracy.
>>61566679The Panama papers led pretty much nowhere, though
>ignore the completely failed mechanized operation >talk about trump quickyou can tell when the vatniks are angry kek
>>61566687And this would be "the hottest thing" since. Honestly? Probably bigger.Go on
>>61565623Bullshit. No nation needs to die. World order doesnt even want to see Russia in ruins, because all the dangerous weapons could be sold to or stolen by terrorists, crime syndicates and whatever. Ukraine will not disappear either, we will see soldiers from other nations on Ukraine soil before something like that happens. This is right now all about Ukraine and Russia only, really. Ukraine fighting for their existence and Russia trying to salvage something from the shitstorm they have caused. Whatever happens, Russia will be in deep shit. Only Putin could be a winner in this whole war. Russian citizens aint gonna do shit either.
>>61566732>>61566735this is a thread about a failed offensive around vuhledar, these retards bring up politics to distract you from the fact that russia just lost basically a mechanized company for no gain
>>61566739so in other words, the same thing that has been happening for months, now. probably a year.
>>61566732>deflecting and posting nothing>I'M NOOOTURLL AND WANT TO GRILL GET THE MEME KIDS???traitor or yellow-bellied brownie call it
>>61566739That is true, but frankly? The tread has mostly ran its course, unless there are some new cool pics of wreck fields to be posted. But otherwise? People following the war alredy know that russians got wrecked and laugh at the clownshow. . People cherleading for ukraine have nor problem beliveing that and also laugh at russia. And ziggers and their cheerleaders already deluded themselves into thinking that it does not matter, that its fake and unimportant and russia is winning anyway becasue they took the village of Upper Deckerovsk (population before war: 57) , so everything is fine.
>>61566749DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAPPENING REGULARLY IS A BIGGER THING THAN IT HAPPENING JUST ONCE? ARE YOU MENTALLY DISABLED?>>61566775and you can shut the fuck up. over the top anti-vatniks are just as annoying as actual vatniks. both of you need to fuck off to /pol/.
>>61560753The US didn't lose in Korea, holy fuck whats with this shit
>>61565094>US Anglo population before 1960 when the country was majority immigrants from Catholic backgrounds and the president was a irishman was above 70%You fucking stupid retard
>>61566793Stop being so angry, especially considering that there no way you can force either me or the ziggers, or the tourists to do or not do whatever you want them to do or not to do. Russians will fuck up again soon, ukes will show the aftermatch, we will have new thread about it , which will be very similar to this one, it will be derailed again. And unless something drastically changes the situation, this cycle will repeat itself again and again. This is how these things go, you might as well get angry that the wind is blowing and the rain is falling. Chill out and enjoy the breeze.Verification not required.
>>61561022>>61561024lmao he straight up started spamming.And yeah the reson for the shilling yesterday was because 1. Crimeia got bombed 2. Russians bombed Belgorod again hahahahaha
>>61566870shut the fuck up retard, you'd be slapped irl if you said this shit to someone.
>>61561111Yes the US was very Angelos, lots of Italians and spaniards and such
>>61561270>>61561278>>61561327LMAO HE FUCKING SPELLS SBU AS SVU ITS AN ACTUAL FUCKING RUSSIAN HAHAHAHAHA WE GOT ANOTHER FSB AGENT
>>61564983Because their actual primary goal is taking over all of Ukraine you dumb idiot.
>>61566694I really would like to now what got them so excited today. I know yesterday the friendly fire bomb on Belgorod got them amped up.
>>61559542>>61564740It's insane to me how slow the west is to act. the russian oligarch that basically owns georgia has not been sanctioned, nor any of his cronies in the ruling party. despite claiming to support georgia, no important european/american politician is offering support or planning a contingency in case of renewed russian aggression.and then when georgia gets invaded again, the west will be shocked for some reason.
>>61559392Do photos like these matter when Russia has thousands of vehicles in reserves and produces hundreds of new ones?
>>61567008>and then when georgia gets invaded againI really don't think russia has the resources to spare, guys. Yes yes, I know,>georgian armybut it'd still be a second front. It just isn't happening.
>>61559896> As long as you had food and weren't bothered by the fact that your co-workers remains are right above/beside you it would be pretty comfyWell, if you got no food that might be actually useful
>>61560130Fucking fremen and their tactics
>>61559398>>61560011It's the Russian equivalent of an aquila. A totem dedicated to their god of war
>>61567041You're right, but I really, REALLY hope they try anyways. I want to see the cope they come up with when their second front falters the same way the assault on Kyiv did.
>>61567122you can't do shit either, why are you being so verbose and smug about everything when i'm simply telling you to shut up and leave?you are garbage.
>>61559392You know, with tanks being reduced to 50$ toy drone chow and miserably failing at accomplishing anything, I kinda hope this triggers a radical shift in tank design and people start building giant tanks again.
>>61560313Picrel gives off so many Auschwitz-lesbians-manga-gif vibes
>>61567146I'm not that anon but you should really stop making up fantasies about people on the internet just so you can be mad all the time
>>61567008>and then when georgia gets invaded again
>>61567006>I know yesterday the friendly fire bomb on Belgorod got them amped upAGAIN?
>>61567255Yup total victory in two weeks zizter
>>61567255Has anyone calculated how many mobiks they need to gain one square mile?And how long it would take to take all of Ukraine at the current rate?
>>61567255Losing men and equipment is the reason why russia will lose. Every video with dying ziggers is a reminder of the inevitable.
>>61567146>you can't do shit either, The difference between us is that unlike you, i am not trying to force you to do any kind of shit (eg. shut up and leave). >why are you being so verbose and smug about everything when i'm simply telling you to shut up and leave?Well, truth be told, it is because i am very bored and you are mildly amusing . >you are garbage.i disagree, but since it does not really matter, but you are entitled to your opinion
>>61567370yes, and it was somewhere in the next century.
>>61561200smekalka)))))))
>>61567041>but it'd still be a second front.They don't have to attack now, they'd do it whenever the Ukraine situation resolves one way or the other.
>>61567741Russia no longer has a military. This war will go on until civilizational collapse, because the funny thing about an aggressive war, is that you can't stop it until the enemy is defeated.Because otherwise, if Russia tries to pull it's troops off the front because it's country is collapsing and it needs the war to end? Ukraine can just push the front and restore pre-war borders.Which means the Russian military is committed to sitting on a frontline they cannot ever meaningfully push, where they are being massacred day in, day out, by superior western munitions.We are literally watching a civilization-scale suicide by cop.
>>61567024Here's your hundreds of vehicles being produced you brainless retard
>>61567754Can't they just ask for an armistice?
>>61567932They can but it'd have to be on Ukraine's terms and there's the question of whether Russia would ever except being forced to the table in defeat by Ukraine. If the US had joined the war and pushed them to the border Russia would gladly* except terms but losing to just Ukraine would see whoever is in charge of Russia dead inside a week after the casualties they've taken. And that's assuming we don't get collapse of the USSR 2.0 with regions breaking off again. * they'd hate it but at least losing to the boogeyman is understandable.
>>61567971Can Russia win?
>>61560242/v/ permabanned me (403 forbidden) for reporting endless invading coomer threads, video games are dead and i fear /k/ will die too if the /pol/ faggotry is not dealt with.
>>61568060In theoryIn practice even if the war ended in Russia's favor tomorrow i'm not sure i'd consider it a win. I'm pretty sure even the Russian's have to admit that KIA's are well over 100k by this point. To say nothing of WIA's. That said the war won't end tomorrow and Russia's casualties will only continue to mount as will the backlog of vehicles that they've been sitting on will continue to shrink day in and day out beyond what they can produce.
>>61562727>Or that a 6 ton top plate just went sailing through the air like it was a feather caught in the wind?That's what happens every other time a russian vehicle gets hitAlso, the look rusty because fire is an oxidising reaction and these vehicles were recently engulfed in searing flames, again by virtue of being Russian
>>61567370Last time I saw someone do the maths they concluded that Russia didn't actually have enough people to take all of Ukraine
>>61568358And even if they managed to "take" it, then what?How many concentration camps would they have to build? Would even Pajeets frown about the necessary mass murder to supress dissent.
>>61566735>into thinking that europe will piss themselves from fear and do nothing to support ukesThey were right, as proven with how ukies get fucked day after day because bureaucrats and retards like to talk a lot, but not do a lot.
>>61566948This. Not sure how retards across the world don't understand this.
>>615670411. it's not like it will take a lot of fuck over Georgia. They have two chunks of the country occupied and a Georgia doesn't have neither the demographics, not the strategic depth to resist. Having a token army doesn't help as well.2. There might not be an army operation at all, because the locals are too cucked to remove the pro-russian government by force. Partially because some locals might be scared of a russian intervention more than their shitty government.
>>61567754>Russia no longer has a military.Naive take. They still have thousands of shitboxes in storage, which are being restored right now. They still have tons of bydlo to put into army. They still manufacture shells, bombs and missiles by the buttload. Russia doesn't have the "hurr-durr potential peer of US" army, which delusional fucks in the west expected, but it does have enough of resources to continue this shitfest and potentially expand it.
>>61559392I don’t care how shit the vehicles may be, they are still automobiles, and thus, marvels of modern engineering. Pidor doesn’t deserve to fight with them. Honestly, it’s not like the armor protects them much. With Russia maybe moving some parts of the front line one kilometer per day, they could easily just have the entire army march everywhere. A few trucks to bring in bullets and food, and they are all good.
>>61568358Things aren't linear, you can only accumulate losses of men, materiel and territory so long. Russians were getting fucked when weapons and ammo came. Then shit got bad when support for AFU vaporized from the US. Things like losing Avdiivka is a prime example of that. >>61568381Kill the most problematic people, ship off a ton of other deep into russia, replace the locals with russian citizens from other regions. It's not a new playbook for them.
>>61568793>replace the locals with russian citizens from other regionsThat's what they did in mariupol too, they've turned the place into churka central now
>>61569007What you see is just the tip of the iceberg. Dozens of thousands bodies of civilians are currently being covered up and built over in Mariupol alone.
>>61567160https://files.catbox.moe/zufte6.gif
>>61559392Surprising lack of turret tossing by the MBTs
>>61569301a-are they sending people over without ammo?
>>61569427They've got columns of tanks but they all have to share one cannon, just like the good ol days of Stalingrad.
>>61562771>>61562779>>61563150I'm hearing rumors of an artefact that was discovered in the hidden Pivdennodonbaska 2 coal mine in Vuhledar.
>>61566459the water thing was just an excuse. Main reason for the war is vatnik imperialism where they want to recreate a third muscovite empire (after the russian empire and ussr) of which ukraine is a vital, integral part. Ukranian nationalism separating from them while being west friendly goes counter to muscovite worldview at its core. Thus the intense hatred and attempts to wipe out ukranian culture in occupied clay completely Clay wise after stealing Crimea they never even needed to create the fake donbawe and lughanda mobster constructs and could have just sit out with ukraine eventually coming around to accepting it as lost. Zelensky whole campaign was normalizing relations with Russia which included giving up all the stolen clay
>>61567370at this rate decades and about 65 million cumniks are needed to swallow up whole of ukraine
>>61569496>Main reason for the war is vatnik imperialismThis and also Monkey was getting stinky eyes coz of a sanctions and rona handling, so he need to switch his docile herd (aka pussians) to something else
>>61559392Since when is africa so green and muddy?What african shithole pirate nation has red white blue as their colors as well?What conflict even is this? Looks like bunch of homemade tractors.
>>61568060I mean they will claim they won no matter the actual outcome.
>>61567971>assuming we don't get collapse of the USSR 2.0Fingers crossed but I wouldn't count on it. Late Putin'e regime is actually more opressive to any form of dissent then late USSR was. As strange as it sounds.
>>61560999hello there blast from the past
>>61569496>Zelensky whole campaign was normalizing relations with Russia which included giving up all the stolen clayZelenskyi and Monke meeting in Paris 2019 was only seen as Ukrainian weakness. Why else would they want to have talks? And thus Russia started preparing for full "two weeks, tops" invasion.
>>61559542It's because color revolutions are a russian conspiracy theory. The truth is those countries have insane amounts of police and military and they are not afraid to use them on their own population, so as long as people can get by they will not be willing to risk their lives to change things. Also people below 30-40 in those countries have almost 0 access to western internet and media so they are spoon-fed propaganda through state media and russian speaking websites, thus they are less likely to realise how bad things are
>>61560486>I'm not trying to concern troll or anything>post was deleted when the zigger was bannedkekI love coming into these threads late and reading all the deleted posts>Quantity become its own quality at some pointlel that's literally just a Stalin quote
>>61570039meant above 30-40, boomers and all that
>>61559575how did they all die from a single drone? did they drive into a killzone?
>>61560011hueh
>>61570039You are wrong. Those regimes exist specifically because people don't give a fuck and those who technically do give a fuck live in fear due to PR machine. 1. People, even older folks, can access information, they just don't bother to do so. 2. "Oppositionally minded" people are scared shitless by the regime as to not attempt anything. Repressing one and highlighting it via propaganda gives an effect that ten thousands of potential "troublemakers" won't do shit. 3. They are also mindfucked by ideas of a peaceful protest, which is all well and good, but not when violence is being applied to you. Belarus is a prime example, people went to the streets, but people were cucked by ideas of a peaceful protest, while they were beaten, arrested, tortured, raped and killed.
>>61570791I'm pretty sure they were also getting shot at by small armsAt 0:24, if you look near the guy on the ground, the one on the left of the BMP, you can see puffs of smoke/dirt appearing next to him, then he seems to get hit and collapses
>>61559392>in the future the documentaries will talk about how batshit insane late-war russian cope-cages became just like the nazi heavy tanks got
>>61572280Are we in the late war? Or is there still more to come in cope cage tech. I still remember when they first started putting bars over the turrets, now they’ve got faraday cage circus tops.