Opinions on old 911s?
Looks better with a RWB bodykit
>>27640107Gross
I saw a hotwheels of one of these in passing while I was grabbing groceries the other week, then saw a real one on the way home in the same color. The synchronicity bumped them way up in my estimation, they're fucking sick.
>>27640102>good history>look pretty good>only OK mechanically>massively overvalued and underused
>>27640102I worked at an independent Porsche shop as a Service Manage in New England (AMA) I won't be posting any pics of the shop but just random Porsche photos I found online. The shop I worked at specializes in building, maintaining Porsche's. (also doing track preparation) We worked on anything from a Porsche 356 all the way up to the modern Porsche 992.>>27640107Nakai only touches 964's and up. >>27640112you took the bait.>>27640224if you ever get a chance you should drive an aircooled 911.>>27640231this is the most accurate post especially this>massively overvalued and underused
>>27640256service manager*
>>27640102Since I was a kid I always found those rims to be the ugliest shit I've ever seen.wmmx
They are for dorky faggots I still want one tho
>>27640256>Nakai only touches 964's and up.Nah the first car he did was a 930
>>27640304i stand correctedThat being said, most 911s he touches nowadays are 964s and up.The first car you speak of was his.
>>27640102g-model>>>911>>964>>>>pile of shit>>993
>>27640102I want one very badly but the prices keep going up and up
>>27640346inshallah
>>27640367your best bet is to start your own business desu.own your capital
>>27640371wheels look sick, what are those?
>>27640256Was it Butzigear?
>>27640386i mean it says it right on the wheels but they are BBS Turbo Fans>>27640396nope, but I'm familiar with that shop. Are you in New England as well?
>>27640102Sex, especially Targas
>>27640401ackchyually they just say bbs smartass
>>27640102They're a PITA to keep running properly, just by virtue of being 50 years old.Also my 71's bumper did this weird melting thing, but that was just cosmetic. And the 73's engine blew to bits
>>27640414the type of wheel they are, are fans so if you input into google "BBS wheels fans" youd get the result "BBS turbo fans" retard.
>>27640538>calls me retard because i don't know all the nine quintillion obscure esoteric types of wheels other than steel vs alloyyou must be uber insufferable
>>27640559Nta but>calls you a retard for blatantly trying to claim those wheels are called something they're not>claims steel and alloy are brands/models of wheelsYou kinda are retarded anon
>>27640567are you able to read, anon?who tried to claim the wheels are called something they're not?who claims steel and alloy are brands/models of wheels?did you pass 2nd grade?
BTFO by a V6 Altima
>>27640401Yes, and I have the (mis)fortune of seeing those guys test driving customer cars bow and again. They drive them like complete dickheads; I wouldn't let those guys drive my econobox daily, let alone my Porsche.
UGLY. SLOW.GAY.
>>27640538Bro that's not your garage, is it? Or are you casually flexing with a GT?
>>27640102damn the nine eleven looked lake thaaaaat?
Timeless design. I would love an air cooled porsche if I wasnt so poor. I know it would financially ruin me
>>27641189read >>27640256>>27640657>Yes, and I have the (mis)fortune of seeing those guys test driving customer cars bow and again. They drive them like complete dickheads; I wouldn't let those guys drive my econobox daily, let alone my Porsche.uh anon, the customers know they test drive their cars. All shops do this, even the shop I worked at did that. If a customer has a problem where the car is still drivable and the owner doesn't know what the problem is with the car, how else are they supposed to diagnose it? say if its a weird sound coming from the suspension?Let's say they fix it or put new suspension it the car, how the fuck are they supposed to dial the car in without driving it?I doubt you have a 911, you probably are some jaded 944 owner. hence why you mentioned you have a Porsche and not the specific model.
>>27640102Fucking horrendously ugly
>>27641504Yeah, I understand that test driving something is a thing, my issue, as I stated, is that they drive like dickheads in customer cars.Would you appreciate it if you dropped off a car with a mechanic only to later learn he was blasting it through residential areas, running red lights, and not stopping for school busses?
>>27640102Based af and classy af!
>>27640231>>>only OK mechanicallytell us more
What about old Caymans they are cheap asf
>>27640574>can I read?Yes, unlike you>who did these retarded things?You, tardanon.>did you pass 2nd grade? Yes, unlike you.
I like the way most of them look up to the late 2000's. I'm particularly fond of the weirder 80's styles. Unfortunately every single one I've seen is driven by unrepentant faggots, the cars honestly deserve better.
You can't beat them
>>27641824Everything that isn't a 911 falls into the category of "not a 911". If you consider it just a better mr2 then sure it's a good car.
>>27641811This is why I always worry about taking my car in for alignments or tire changes etc Always a strong chance some idiot is going to think he can legally joyride a car because it's in the shop and they have the keys Then they wreck it and go "oops our insurance won't cover this, sorry"
Came across this sweet ass '79 Targa.but with a pricetag of €55k I'd have to sell my current car; and I while I think driving this daily wouldn't be too much of a problem, the severe lack in cargo space would be.
>>27642003>Unfortunately every single one I've seen is driven by unrepentant faggotsThat's called jealousy, anon.
>>27642407There's a 69 Targa for €40,000 near me, has the 2.0 engine
>>27640371>turbofans on the rearcringe
>>27641824higher insurance than 911s
>>27640102My favorite 911. The extra chrome on the long bonnet models makes them feel much more special.
>>27642407neat
>>27642539Agreed.
>>27642003Is that a real ad, or an elaborate ruse?
>>27640102Porsche price, but not fast or good looking. 0/10
>>27642855>not good lookingIt's the best looking 911
>>27640367I know those feels
>>27642946Both statements true
bought this model kit and found out it comes with the completely wrong wheels, what wheels should i put on it?
>>27641811post proof its happened. I know the owner of Butzi and the guys that work there. He doesnt drive like an asshole at all.you must be the gangly incel with the two tone 944 around town. am I right?
>>27642788ruse.
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>>27640102>imagine designing such a perfect car, that you've almost never had to change it
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>>27644371>ship of theseus
I hope people that sell these for 100k+ fucking explode into a million tiny pieces
>>27645110who cares.>>27645192you sound mad man.
>>27646793Of course I’m mad, I want one. Duh.
>>27640102Love 'em since I played NFS Porsche, a shame that there's no aircooled 911s in the wild, at this point most became either original unmolested garage queens or restomodded monster garage queens
>>276430668-lug steelie conversion kit
>>27646810>a shame that there's no aircooled 911s in the wildlol what flyover shit hole do you live in. you seem them all the time in Los Angeles. Yeah Im talking aircooled 911s too.Here in New England I come across them every now and then. Pic related saw this 964 in downtown Manhattan last week.
>>27646810saw this at a random car park in London years ago.
930s were going for $20-$30k just a few years ago. You cant touch one for under $100k anymore. It's fucking ridiculous. My generation gets screwed out of everything
>>27646877>Nooooo why couldn't I be the one to ruin everything?!?!Gay
>>27646793I want a 964 so fucking bad. I need to start driving manual.
>>27640107Straight to hell with you degenerate, don't even bother kys
>>27645110This is why a shallow understanding of concepts is more of a fucking hindrance than anything. You say ship of thesus as if there's a definitive consensus on the answer. Guaranteed you feel like you somehow know the answer because you watched something that explained it after most of the important aspects have been rewritten and regurgitated by some pseudo-intellectual.
>>27646884shaddup bitch
Not many European cars I like, but I really like the aircooled Porsche's.
>>27646877>930s were going for $20-$30k just a few years agoA few years ago being 18 years ago?
>>27640107Wide body old 911s are great, but not RWB hack jobs
>>27646884Boomers want to keep even the ability to ruin things for themselves
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I'd be fine with a 912, even with the weakest engine they have. I love how quaint they look.
>>27643123I wasn't aware there was a two tone 944 in the area. I go that direction on my commute to and from work and occasionally encounter them driving around when I go to lunch.You can get as defensive as you want. Who knows, maybe they'll fuck you.
>>27647561t. non-Porsche owner buttmad he knows nothing about running a shop
>>27646877>930s were going for $20-$30k just a few years agowronghttps://bringatrailer.com/porsche/930-turbo/?search=Coupe&result=sold
>>27646982cook his dumbass
>>27646933>I want a 964 so fucking bad. I need to start driving manual.learning how to drive manual is the least of your problems lmao. What you just quoted is not any 964, but a 964 turbo. While you can buy one these cars privately (non-auction), only 10 964 turbos have been sold on Bringatrailer since 2021 and just look at their prices lol.
>>27646933964 Carrera 2 on the other hand, still expensive, a bit more realistic. And it will not have the cool widebody.... so lower your expectations. nevermind the backdated Porsche
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>>27640102There's only one 911 I care about. Inshallah.
>>27646877>930s were going for $20-$30k just a few years ago.They haven't been the price since the 2000s.
>>27650466you dont say you dumb fuck
>>27640107This but also an LS of course.
>>27640102not bad cars but the proliferation of lemming rich guys + current car media has vastly inflated how good they actually are. they are all pretty well built but the driving experience is not always the best in the entire world
>>27640559>wheels are either steel or alloyare you fucking turbo retreated
>>27651627I mean pretty much all wheels are either steel or [non-ferrous] alloy, it's not like they're making car wheels out of wood. I'm sure carbon fiber wheels exist but I've never seen one.
I just want a classic model to drive regardless of the aesthetics.
>>27646982>heard about it one day>googled it>read the Wikipedia summary>understood the concept immediately Sorry I didn't get a masters in philosophy to understand the "true depth" of a simple thought experiment.Feel free to explain what I'm missing though.
>>27651740that looks terrible. I understand the patina look but nah.>>27652542shut up retard.
>>27640102>Opinions on old 911s?one of the most overrated cars of all time
>>27648615You can say whatever you want, but it's obvious you're upset by what I've said.If you knew without a doubt that they weren't at least a little scummy, you would have dismissed what I said and simply not replied at all. I hope you show this thread to those guys, maybe you can all be butthurt about it together.
>>27653465havent seen them in a while but I know who you are! be careful bud. I best not catch you in Milford, Stratford or Orange
Bunpimg this classic sports car thread
>>27640102They are just the best.
>>27654973Also, NFS Porsche Unleashed is the only decent NFS game ever released.
>>27653685>>27654973>>27654990based
>>27655018Thought that was big Donald at first.
>>27654990retarded/nostalgic, possibly retarded AND nostalgic, take.I too had fun with said game but the engine sounds are too fucking shitty to call it the best out of all NFS games
>>27656916>sounds trump vehicle driving modelsStill better than any other game in the franchise. Apart from PU, EA have never made a decent driving game.
>>27656937>Still better than any other game in the franchiseI cast my vote.
>>27656937>doesn't acknowledge the visceral and emotional experience motor vehicles deliver with soundspotted the EV enthusiastfuck outta here
>>27656943just watch youtube if you want super precise sound. Ill be floating along Cote d'Azur in my RS while you listen to Schmee lisp.
>>27656968>cruising along the Côte d'Azur in an early 911I fucking wish I was.
engine in the wrong place
>>27641504.... what's wrong with the 944?cheap?
>>27657128the Porsche 944 is a great CAR. Even better if its the Turbo variant but here's the thing with 944's.the trajectory of the average Porsche 944 after the first/second owner only has gone DOWNWARD. Depreciate hit like crazy. People picking them up in the 90s/early 2000s for little to nothing thinking "Hot damn I can own a Porsche for cheap" then shit breaks down and if they wrench, they are still too afraid to work on the car or they dont want to pay the insane prices of sending it to a dealer/indy Porsche shop because at the end of the day its still a Porsche.fast forward to today where a lot of these cars have been sitting for 15+ years, some 20 something year old kid see's it on some dudes property with a "for sale" sign and hes only asking $1500 for the 944 so the kid is like "wtf thats cheap, I can get it running!but they do no research, and in some cases they do get it running but for mostly they bite off more than they can chew and realize how its going to cost at minimum $15k - $20k to get a somewhat well sorted 944 and after spending all that, the car is still worth about $12k.yeah I see this shit happen often.tl;dr Dont buy a 944 unless you can afford 2 or 3 of them and you're handy and have a lot of tools
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Personal opinion: prefer the G-Series in dark colours, like this Slate Grey example, as they de-emphasize the black plastic bumper parts.
>>27659237>shit ass restomod>shitty ass low quality livery>ugly unoriginal color>RHD>in Australia>$200klol just lolhttps://www.instagram.com/carsforsale.com.au/p/C5rJAJMhcnq/?img_index=5its a poor replica/tribute of an IROC RSR and a '73 RS. Its what happens when a boomer who likes 911s doesnt know jack shit about Porsches and throws money at it.
>>27659237try again
>>27659901let me fix that for you.
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>>27659901tuh
>>27659923>shit ass restomodYou forgot the big diameter fake fuchs
>>27640102Aren’t they a pain to maintain and barely faster around a track than a 128i with $2k in suspension mods?
>>27659997>barely faster around a trackLiterally nobody cares
>>27659997ok I'll take the bait, first off a 128i that comes with the 228hp is an OK car. Personally I dont like the N52.Comparing a somewhat modern entry level 1 series to a 30/40 year old aircooled 911 doesn't make any sense at all. They dont even have the same demographic. That being said the aircooled 911 will sound better, look better will have better driving dynamics, better aftermarket options. Also the 1 series kinda look like a chode. 911s are not a pain to maintain, although I wouldn't own one without owning a lift.https://youtu.be/lgdePqUvUDY?feature=sharedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nm79A8hvDQ8https://youtu.be/JM_pSi967PY?feature=sharedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBxr7gRT3_whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHitLpv2MsAhttps://youtu.be/c6hWuWWUTK4?feature=shared&t=31Dont think you'll find a 128i better sounding than any of those
>>27640102they are not worth the money.subjective but unless you have money to burn, its a lifestyle car.
>>27659923>>27659926>gets driven 50klms a year for photo shootsyeah nah, at least the boomers' homage will see the road every weekend.Imagine paying 500K plus for a car and then just rubbing your cock on the bumpers all day.Prices are ridiculous in Au. you can import from the UK with 25% duties and turn a decent profit.Everyone knows RHD is the superior choice, imagine using your dominant hand to change gears instead of on the wheel, lol.Old porkers are great, original or restoed, I see restos shit ya, so I'll be bumping with them for the rest of the thread.picrel sold on BaT for 250000 US buckaroos, 374000 aussie.copeseeth
>>27640102i'm too tall so i hope they all get wrapped around telephone poles
>>27660788you say booomers, but its mostly millennial and zoomers who are over paying and inflating the prices.
>>27660821Supply and demand.Picrel is your future, 996 backdated to 993.I'd tell you to start buying 996's but the bottom for them was 5 years ago.
>>27660911no desire for 911, plenty of cheaper alternatives that have a charm of their own.
>>27660788you have no idea what you are talking about you silly P plater
>>27643139wait a minute....THAT'S NOT A PORSCHE, THAT'S THE VOLKSWAGEN TYP64
>>27661928mashallah
>>27657255>some 20 something year old kid see's it on some dudes property with a "for sale" sign and hes only asking $1500 for the 944 so the kid is like "wtf thats cheap, I can get it running!KEK this is me down to the exact price, except i got it running and daily it. it 100% has been a nightmare to sort out though.
https://youtu.be/3McsaIj2xI4?si=CPIuiT0pw1N-jm1i
I'm not a Porsche fan, but.....The 911 has won LeMans, Dakar and Baja 500.
>>27663010you are one of the rare ones that actually has perseverance. good for you anon!
>old 911'shalf a million dollars in restomod to make them good>"old" 911993 gen are gorgeous, especially rare models like the GT2
>>27651473>hot air intakeevery time
>>27656968>while you listen to Schmee lispHI GUYS I'M SCHMEEEEEE :DDDDDDD
Fuck yeah.
>>27665603huh, im curious where'd you get the half a million dollar figure from?You know not everyone who owns a old 911 has a singer right?most people unfortunately have bone stock 911. And when I say bone stock I mean all the worn out blown the fuck out bushings and suspension components. There's no need to go overboard but a simple refresh of the suspension and engine rebuild goes a long way and doesnt cost half a mill.
>>27660092>>27659997They’re slow. Easily passing them on track in an A3. But they’re classy as fuck and fun to drive around. And soul and appreciating in value
>>27640102love them dislike new porsches in general, they are fat and bloated
>>27646861Lel
912>911
>>27666542shut the fuck up you humongous faggot
>>27668646They don't have the history.
>>27640273They look good on a beetle or mini cooper.
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